dsm gRMQ bfry zf: muihMdr kOr igl nfl gwlbfq .Bfg pihlf.

suafl: zf: sfihbf cOpeI ivc afAuNdf hY, "syvk iswK hmfry qfrIaih. cuin cuin sqR hmfry mfrIaih] ab rwCf myrI qum kro] iswK Aubfr aiswK sMGfro] hmry dusit sBY qum Gfvhu] afp hfQ dY moih bcfvhu]

jdoN mYN ienHf swqrF nUM gurU arjn dyv jI dy awgy ilKy ienHF iqMnF slokF:

1[ nf ko myrf dusmnu rihaf nf hm iks ky bYrfeI. bRhm psfru psfirE BIqir siqgur qy soJI pfeI]m:5,pMnf 671]

2[ibsir geI sB qfiq prfeI] jb qy sfDsMgiq moih pfeI]1.rhfAu] nf ko bYrI nhI ibgfnf sgl sMig hm kAu bin afeI]1] jo pRB kIno so Bl mfinE eyh sumiq sfDU qy pfeI] sBu ko mIqu hm afpn kInf hm sBnf ky sfjn] dUir prfieE mn kf ibrhf qf mylu kIE myrY rfjn] m:5,pMnf1299

3[ nf ko dUqu nhI bYrfeI] gil imil cfly eykY BfeI] m; 5, pMnf 887]

ieh do vwKry vwKry isDFq hn. jdoN mYN gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM TIk mMndf hF qF mYnUM ies cAupeI ivcly isDFq nUM glq kihxf peygf ikAuNik ies cAupeI ivc iswKF dI rwiKaf leI qy jo iswK nhI hn AunHF dy nfsL/ Gfvhu/ sLMGfro leI bynqI kIqI geI hY. pr iswK qF hmysLf srbwq dy Bly dI ardfs krdy hn.

AuWqr: smF bdl jFdf hY. gurU arjn dyv jI qy dsm pfqsLfh dy jLmfny ivc kfPI Prk af igaf sI. dsm pfqsLfh dy jLmfny ivc iek gwl sI. dsm pfqsLfh ny afp ikhf hY:

jf kI jfiq igrb kuil mfhI] srdfrI nih Bey ikdfhI] ienhI ko srdfr bnfAUN]qbY goibMd isMG nfm khfAUN] ijs cAupeI df qusIN ijLkr kr rhy ho ieh BMgfxI dy XwuD vyly gurU sfihb ny AucfrI sI. awj vI Auh kvc moqI mihl pitaflf ivc ipaf hY ijs Auqy gurU sfihb ny ieh bfxI ilKI sI qy BMgfxI dy XuwD ivc pihinaf sI. gwl ieh hY pMcm pfqsLfh qoN bfad iswK lihr ijhVI sI Auh ienklfbI lihr ho geI sI. ies qoN pihlF pMcm gurU df ijhVf isDFq hY, " nf ko bYrI nhI bygfnf" vflf isDFq hY. pr jdoN ieh lihr ienklfbI lihr ivc pRIvrqn hoeI qF ienHF ny qihs-nihs vI kIqf hY. Aus vyly ienHF ny bkfiedf bdlf vI ilaf hY. kfPI lMbf smF iswK jdo-jihd cwldI rhI hY. dsm pfqsLfh qoN bfad bMdf bhfdr qF cwl hI ies rsqy qy ipaf sI. ieh do vwKry simaF ivc do vwKry isDFq hn. pMcm pfqsLfh df isDFq, "nf ko bYrI nhI bygfnf" pr dsm ipqf df isDFq hY, "jbY bfx lfgy qbY ros jfgY". AunHF ny Aus vyly ies nUM lfgU kIqf hY.

mYN qhfzI ies dlIl nfl iblkul sihmq nhI ik ieh cOpeI gurU sfihb ny lVfeI ivc pihny jfx vfly kvc Aupr ilKI qy iPr BMgfxI dy XuwD smyN ies nUM pihinaf vI. quhzI ieh dlIl qF iehI iswD krdI hY ik ijvyN gurU goibMd isMG jI lVfeI vyly afpxy gl ivc jF afpxy sLrIr nfl iksy iksm df koeI qvIjL pihndy hox jo iswK isDFq dy ankUl nhI. pitafly ijwQy hux moqI bfg gurUduafrf hY iehI gurUduafrf kdI rfjy dy mihlF dy nfl huMdf sI ies dy csLmdId gvfh hfly ijAuNdy hn. pr ies dy csLmdId gvfh nhI ijAuNdy jo ieh sfbq kr skx ky hF iehI Auh kvc hY jo gurU sfihb ny BMgfxI dy XuwD smyN phinaf sI qy AudoN ies Aupr ieh cAupeI ilKI hoeI sI. gurU sfihb nUM afpxI AucfrI hoeI cAupeI iksy kvc Auwpr ilKky afpxy sLrIr dy duafly pihnx dI kI loV sI? kI ies cAupeI ny AunHF dI ies qrHF krn nfl ijLafdf rwiKaf krnI sI? AunHF df Brosf akfl purK dy Auwpr hY qF ies cAupeI nUM lwk dy duafly vlytx dI kI jLrUrq? koeI quk bxdI nhI.

suafl: zf: sfihbf jdoN asIN sfry gurU sfihbfn nUM iek joq mMndy hF qF AunHF df isDFq smyN muqfbk nhI bdlxf cfhIdf. dUsrI gwl ieh ik Aus jrnYl df nfm sYd byg hY ijhVf idwlIE gurU goibMd isMG, anMdpur sfihb qy cVHfeI krky jFdf hY, rsqy ivc aMbfly dy nyV qyV Auh afpxI BYx nUM vI imldf hY qy afpxI jMgI muihm bfry dwsdf hY pr Aus dI BYx afKdI hY vIrf nf qF qUM gurU goibMd isMG jI nUM mfr hI skdf hYN qy nf hI ijAuNidaF nUM pkV ky idwlI pysL kr skdf hYN. jdoN hI Auh jrnYl anMdpur sfihb phuMcdf hY qy lVfeI dy mYdfn ivc gurU jI nUM vMgfrdf hY qF gurU jI dy sfhmxy huMidaF sfr hI Auh afpxy hwiQafr suwt ky gurU jI df syvk bx jFdf hY qy gurU goibMd isMG jI Aus nUM gly nfl lgf lYNdy hn. vYsy qF Auh dusLmx hY iks qrHF ieqbfr kIqf jfvy.

dUsrf ieh ik jMgF XuDF dy bfvjUd vI gurU goibMd isMG jI gurU arjn dyv jI dy isDFq qy hr vkq pihrf idMdy mYnUM Aus vkq njLr afAuNdy hn jdoN Auh BfeI GnweIaf jI nUM, dusLmx dy POjIaF nUM, jMg ivc PtV hox dI sUrq ivc nf isrP pfxI ipafAux leI hI hukm krdy hn sgoN mlm pwtI krn dI vI hdfieq krdy hn. myrI smJ muqfbk qF sfzy sfry gurUaF df isDFq ieko hI hY iPr vI quhzf ies bfry kI iKafl hY?

AuWqr: gurUaF dy isDFq qF ieko hI hn pr gurU nvyN isDFq joV qF skdy ny. gurU sfihb kuwJ imtf skdy ny kuwJ nvF hor iswK isDFq nfl joV vI skdy ny. iek vylf sI jdoN sLFq aiDafqimk lihr sI. iPr dUsrf vylf afieaf jdoN sLhIdIaF df dOr afieaf iPr sLFq lihr ienklfbI lihr ivc qbdIl ho geI. Aus vyly dusLmx df mukfblf krnf isDFq bx igaf sI. jy qusIN ieh kho ik ieh AunHF df isDFq nhI. asl ivc ieh nhI gwl. hr gurU sfihbfn nUM hwk hY nvyN isDFq iswK lihr nfl joVn qy purfxy qoVn df. qusIN qF kwlH nUM ieh vI suafl puwC skdy ho ik CyvyN gurU ny bfxI nhI ilKI swqvyN qy awTvyN ny bfxI ikAuN nhI ilKI? ieh koeI suafl nhI hn ijhVy asIN prMprf dy nfl joVI jf rhy hF.

suafl: ab mY apnI kQf bKfno] qp sfDq ijh ibiD muih afno] hym kuMt prbq hY jhF] spq isRMg ssoiBq hY jhF] 1] spq isRMg iqh nfm khfvf] pMzu rfj jh jogu kmfvf] qh hm aiDk qpwisaf sfDI] mhfkfl kfilkf afrfDI] 2]

ieh slok ieh dwsdf hY ik hux mYN afpxI kQf dwsx lwgf hF. ijQy bYT ky mYN qp krdf huMdf sI AuQy pFzvF dy ipqf ny vI qp kIqf sI. ijQy hym kuMt prbq hY qy ies dIaf swq cotIaF hn AuWQy asI bhuq qpwisaf kIqI qy mhFkfl (kflkf dyvI) dI arfDnf (pUjf) kIqI.

dUjy pfsy gurU nfnk sfihb qF ieh afKdy hn, "iksy nUM koeI pqf nhI ik koeI ikQoN afAuNdf hY, ikQy jFdf hY, iks iks df mYN gurU hoieaf iks iks df mYN cylf hoieaf, pihlF myrI ikhVI jfq sI afid".gurU gRMQ sfihb dy slok kuwJ ieMJ hn:

1[ kq kI mfeI bfpu kq kyrf ikdU Qvhu hm afey] agin ibMb jl BIqir inpjy kfhy kMim Aupfey] m:1, pMnf 156]

asIN kIh dwsIey ik ikhVy jnm ivc kOx sfzf ipqf sI kOx sfzI mF sI qy ikhVI ikhVI jUn (Qvhu) ivco asIN afey hF. ipqf dy vIrj qoN mF dy pyt rFhI ikhVy kMm krky, iks vjHf krky, asIN pYdf kIqy gey hF koeI pqf nhI.

2[ juiV juiV ivCuVy ivCuiV juVy] jIiv jIiv muey muey jIvy. kyiqaf ky bfp kyiqaf ky byty kyqy gur cyly hUey] ies qoN aglI pMgqI ijLafdf iDafn gocrI hY.

afgY pfCY gxq n afvY ikaf jfqI ikaf huix hUey] sBu krxf ikrqu kir ilKIaY kir kir krqf kry kry] m: 1, pMnf 1238]

ikqnI vfrI asIN iksy nUM imly. ikqnI vfrI iml ky ivCuVy. ikqnI vfrI asIN pYdf hoey ikqnI vfrI mry koeI pqf nhI. ikinaF dy bfp ikinaF dy byty, ikinaF dy gurU qy ikinaF dy asIN cyly hoey hF koeI pqf nhI. pihlF ikhVI jfqI sI qy hux ikhVI jfqI hY ieh sfnUM pqf nhI. ies sfry psfry dy krx vflf krqf hI jfx skdf hY.

qy kflkf afrfDx bfry gurU gRMQ sfihb df hukm kI hY ieh vI sux lvo?

mhf mfeI kI pUjf krY] nr sy nfir hoie aAuqrY] qU khIaq hI afid BvfnI] mukiq kI brIaf khf CpfnI] Bgq nfmdyv jI] pMnf 874]

AulQf krn dI vI loV nhI sfP idsdf hY ky kflkf dI jF iksy dyvI dI pUjf krnI Auicwq nhI. iswK Drm ivc iksy dyvI dyvqy dI pUjf krn dI mnfhI hY.

jy ieh mMn ilaf jfvy ik dsm gRMQ gurU goibMd isMG jI dI hI rcnf hY qF dsm gRMQ qy afid gRMQ ( gurU gRMQ sfihb) afpf ivroDI isDFq pysL krdy hn. myrf suafl hY ik gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq nUM gurU goibMd isMG jI nhI kwt skdy? quhzf iehdy bfry kI iKafl hY?

AuWqr: iehdy ivc ieqnf hI Prk hY. ijvyN qusIN afpxy dfdy nUM vyK lE qy afpxf kfr ivhfr vyK lE. quhfzy dfdy qy rihx df ZMg, rhu rIq hor sI qy awj quhfzf rihx sihx df ZMg qrIkf hor hY. jy quhnUM ieh puiCaf jfvy ik quhfzf dfdf ikAUN nhI afieaf knyzf qF quhzy kol sLfeId iesdf koeI jvfb nf hovy. asIN gurU sfihb bfry hor hI suafl krI jf rhy hF. ieh gurU dI ieWCf hY. iek gurU afpxy punr jnm dI gwl kr irhf hY iek gurU ny nhI kIqI. ieh iksy QF nhI iliKaf ik afAux vfly smyN ivc koeI gurU afpxy punr (pihly) jnm dI gwl kr hI nhI skdy. ieh AunHF dI iPlfsPI sI qy ienHF ny kr idwqI ieh ienF df ivcfr hY. mYnUM ies gwl dI smJ nhI afAUNdI ik afAux vflf gurU koeI nvI gwl ikAUN nhI kr skdf? Auh kr skdf hY AuWsdf hwk hY.

svfl: zf: sfihbf! myry qy myry dfdy dy rihx sihx dy vwKry vwKry ZMg df gurU nfnk sfihb aqy gurU goibMd isMG jI dy vwKry vwKry isDFqF nfl koeI myl nhI. iswK isDFqF nUM bdlxf qy rihx sihx dy vwKry vwKry ZMg hoxy iblkul iek vwKrI gwl hY. jdoN iswK Drm ivc punr jnm hI pRvfnq nhI qF iswKF dy dsvyN gurU pnr jnm dI gwl nhI kr skdy. AuWpr ilKIaF pMgqIaF, jo gurU gRMQ sfihb ivcoN hn, qF iehI iswD krdIaF hn ik mnuwK df koeI punr jnm nhI, iksy nUM koeI pqf nhI ik Auh ikQoN afAuNdf hY qy ikQy jFdf hY. punr jnm dI kfZ vI clfk pujfrI jmfq dI hY. dunIaF dy kfPI Drm punr jnm nUM nhI mMndy ijvyN buD Drm qF rwb dI hoNd qoN vI ienkfrI hY qy AuWs Drm ivc punr jnm nUM vI svIkfr nhI kIqf igaf. gurU nfnk sfihb dIaF pMgqIaF quhzy kool mOjUd hn iPr vI qusIN gurU goibMd isMG dy mUMh ivc punr jnm dI gwl pfeI jf rhy ho ieh TIk nhI. bfkI koeI gurU jF koeI hor ivafkqI ies sMsfr ivc pYdf hox vyly afpxy ipCly qy keI lwKF sfl pihly dI jfxkfrI nUM ikhVy igafn ieMdiraF nfl ies dunIaF ivc lY ky afAuNdf hY ieh dwsogy? mYN afAux vfly gurUaF dy mUMho nvI gwl suxnI qF jLrUr cfhvFgf qy cfhuMdf vI hF. dsF gurUaF nUM asIN vwKry vwKry simaF ivc, vwKry vwKry srIrF dy hox dy bfvjUd qy vwK vwK mF qy bfp dy hox dy bfvjLUd vI iewk joq ies krky hI mMndy hF ik AunHF ny isrP qy isrP iewk hI isDFq df pRcfr kIqf hY. iek gurU sfihb ieh khy ik sfnUM nhI pqf ik asIN ikQoN afey hF qy dUsrf gurU sfihb ieh khy ik mYnUM akfl purK vfihgurU ny hym kuMt prbq qy qp krdy nUM lokF df suDfr krn ihq DrqI qy afpxf suq (spuqr) bxf ky Byijaf hY gwl mn nUM nhIN BfAUNdI, quhzf iehdy bfry kI iKafl hY?

Auqr: gurU joq skMlp hY. ijhVf joq skMlp hY Auhdy ivc pihlf gurU nfnk dUjf gurU nfnk iesy qrHF dsvf gurU nfnk af gey. dsvy gurU nfnk joq skMlp dy krMm ivc afey ny. lykn dsvy jfmy ivc afky agr Auh koeI afpxy punr jnm dI gfQf ibafn krnf cfhuMdy ny qF myrf iKafl hY ik iehdy ivc koeI aYsI gwl nhI ijhdy AuWqy sfnuM kooeI sLMkf krnI cfhIdI hY.

suafl: zf: sfihbf gwl qF isDFq bdlx dI hY jy gurU nfnk sfihb ieh afKdy hn ik ieh koeI nhI kih skdf ik bMdf ikQoN afAuNdf hY qy mrn qoN bfad ikQy jFdf hY. gurbfxI dy kuJ slok ieMj hn:

1[ khF qy afieaf khF eyhu jfxu] jIvq mrq rhY prvfxu] hukmY bUJY qqu pCfxY] iehu prsfdu gurU qy jfxY]m:,pMnf 1289

2[ iek dJih iek dbIaih ieknf kuqy Kfih] ieik pfxI ivic AustIaih ieik BI iPir hsix pfih] nfnk eyv n jfpeI ikQY jfie smfih] m: 1, pMnf 648]

ies isDFq nUM kwt ky hI gurU goibMd isMG jI ieh kihxgy ik mYN Plfxy QF bYTf qp krdf huMdf sI. ieh qF EhI snfqn Drm dy vydF vflI gwl hoeI ik iek pMzf (pMzq) afieaf Ausny afpxI mrjI df kuwJ iliKaf qy kuwJ smyN bfad, iewk pIhVI do pIhVIaF bfad koeI hor pMzf afieaf Ausny afpxI mrjI df koeI hor isDFq iliKaf ies krky vyd afpf ivroDI hn. afrIaf smfjI vIrF ny qF ieh GosLq kIqf hoieaf hY ik vyd JUTF dy pulMdy hn. kI qusIN vI iehI afKxf cfhuMdy ho ik iswK gurU sfihbF ny vI afpf ivroDI kfiedy kfnUMn/ isDFq bxfey?

AuWqr: qusIN ijs nUM isDFq kwtxf kih rhy ho mYN AuWsnUM iek hor nvF isDFq dyxf (aYz krnf) kih hrI hF. gurU sfihb ny iek nvI gwl hor aYz kr idwqI. ieko hI gwl nUM vyKx dy do qrIky hn. asIN pfjyitv vI dyK skdy hF nYgyitv vI dyK skdy hF. agr gurU sfihb ny ieh gwl kih vI idwqI qF kIh hoieaf. gurU sfihb pUrv jnm dI sLnfKq (afizMntIPIkysLn) kr rhy hn. Plfxy mOky PlfxI QF qy huMdy sn. quhzf jIa krdf qusIN AuWsnUM mMn lE. quhzf jIa nhI krdf qusIN nf mMno. ivcfrF df vwKryvf sfzy sfiraf vfsqy lfjmI hoxf cfhIdf hY qy sfnUM ies df siqkfr vI krnf cfhIdf hY.

quhfzI ieh dlIl ik jy quhfzf icq krdf hY qF punr jnm dI gwl mMn lE jy nhI krdf qF nf mMno, by-buinafdI kMD hY. mYN guru nfnk sfihb nUM mMnF jF gurU goibMd isMG jI nUM mMnF. iek gurU sfihbfn ieh afK rhy hn ik koeI ieh nhI kih skdf ik jIv mr ky ikQy jFdf hY qy jnm vyly ikQoN afAuNdf. gurU nfnk sfihb nfl nfl ieh vI afK rhy hn ik pihlF myrI kI jfq sI, mYN iksdf gurU jF cylf sI, ipE dy vIrj qoN mYnUM iks kMm krky pYdf kIqf igaf hY qy hux myrI kI jfq hY. sfzy sLRomxI guru sfihbfn dI gwl TIk hY jF dsvyN gurU sfihbfn dI. iesy krky hI qF smJdfr buDIjIvI, jo ivky hoey nhIN, ieh afK rhy hn ik dsm gRMQ gurU goibMd isMG jI df iliKaf hoieaf nhIN hY.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG ( ijAUx vflf) brYNptn

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