svfl: zf: sfihbf mYnUM ivsQfr nfl ieh smJfE ik koeI bfxI nUM
pVHnf hI nfm jpxf khI jf irhf hY koeI kuwC kih irh hY koeI kuwC kih irhf hY.
gurbfxI ivc iek slok afAuNdf hY:
gur siqgur kf jo isKu aKfey su Blky AuiT hir nfmu iDafvY] Audmu
kry Blky prBfqI iesnfnu kry aMiMRmq sir nfvY] Aupdyis gurU hir hir jpu jfpY siB
iklivK pfp doK lih jfvY] iPir cVY idvsu gurbfxI gfvY bihidaf AuTidaf hir nfmu
iDafvY] jo sfis igrfis iDafey myrf hir hir so gurisKu gurU min BfvY] m: 4, pMnf
305]
ies slok ivc iswK rihq mrXfdf dwsI geI hY. nfm jpxf kI cIj
hY?
AuWqr: quhzf ieh suafl hY ik nfm kI cIj hY. nfm jpxf nfm ismrnf
hY. iksy nUM Xfd krnf hY. afpF iksy cIj iksy vsqU nUM Xfd krdy hF. sfnUM ijhVI
sOKI gwl dI smJ afAuNdI hY Auh vsqU nfm qoN afAuNdI hY. quhzf nfm brfV hY. PrjL
kro qusIN dUr KVy ho. mYN quhnUM avfjL mfrI. brfV sfihb jLrf ieDr afieE. qusI
dUroN myrI avfjL sux ky cly afey. myrf suafl hY quhzf nfm vwzf hY jF quhzf srIr
vwzf hY. qusIN khogy ik myrf nfm vwzf hY. iesy krky mYN quiraf afieaf. ieh hY
vsqU nfm. nfm bVI qrHF df hY. asIN rwb dy nfm ikrqm nfm rwKy hn. ikrqm nfm ikhVy
ny? ijhVy Auhny krqv kIqy ny.
ikrqm nfm kQy qyry ijhbf] siq nfmu qyrf prf pUrblf] m:5, pMnf
1083]
sfzI jIB ny jF jIvF ny pRmfqmf dy srgux gux dyK ky Aus dy nfm
rwK ley hn pr siqnfm Aus df bhuq icrF qoN cilaf af irhf hY. jy Aus ny rihmq kIqI
asIN Aus nUM rhIm kih ilaf, idaflU kih ilaf, ikrpflU kih ilaf. ieh sfry Aus dy
ikrqm nfm ny. Aus df aslI nfm ikhVf hY. Aus hY siq. siq kI hY? ijhVf bdldf nhI.
siq kI hY? ijhVf vwzf Cotf nhI huMdf. siq kI hY? ijhVf qbdIl nhI huMdf. siq kI
hY? ijhVf kMmjLor nhI huMdf. siq kI hY? ijhVf buZf nhI huMdf. siq dy Cy gux ny.
ieh ijhVf siqnfm hY, ijsnUM qusIN kihMdy ho, afKr nUM sfrf gurU gRMQ sfihb iek
zispln ivc siqnfm df hI vrnx hY. ieh izskirpsLn hY nfrysLn nhI. ikAuNik akfl
purK smyN qy sQfn dI pkV ivc nhI. ies krky Ausdf vrnx hI ho skdf hY. AusdI
nfrysLn nhI ho skdI. Auhdf ijhVf vrnx hY. Auhdy ikrqm nfmF krky vI hY .
asIN, "syvk kY BrpUr jug jug vfhgurU qyrf siB sdkf] inrMkfr
pRBu sdf slfmiq kih n skY koAU qU kd kf]" svwXy Bwt, pMnf 1403]
sfry rihbr Es akfl purK df nfm bxf lYNdy hn. sfzy ivc ijhVf nfm
afieaf hY Eh hY vfihgurU.
vfihgur gur mMqR hY jp hAumY KoeI. pihlI vfr, BfeI
gurdfs.
gurU gRMQ sfihb ivc vihgurU sLbd dI vrqoN BwtF ny afpxy svwiXaf
ivc kIqI hY. pUry gurU gRMQ sfihb ivc 16 vfr vfihgurU sLbd dI vrqoN hoeI hY.
bfkI dy ijhVy ny Aus dy ikrqm nfm ny.vihgurU dI pRIBfsLf iks ny kIqI hY? BfeI
gurdfs ny. dunIaFdfrI ivc dyK lE, ijsnUM Xfd krdy ho nfm krky Xfd krdy ho. jdoN
Ausdf nfm Xfd krdy ho Ausdf srUp sfhmxy af jFdf hY. ieh ijhVf rwb nUM ismrnf hY
Ausdy guxF krky ismiraf jFdf hY. ieh nfm hY.
zf: sfihbf iksy df nfm lY ky iksy nUM avfjL mfrnI qy Auhdf iksy
kol afAuxf iek vwKrf ivsLf hY qy pRmfqmf df ismrn krnf iek vwKrf ivsLf hY. jy
qusIN mYnUM avfjL mfro qy mYN quhzy kol cilaf afvF qF iesdf ieh mqlb nhI ik
qusIN myrf ismrn kr rhy ho. gurU sfihbfn dy akfl clfxf krn qoN bfad iswK Drm dy
dusLmx ies mOky dI qfV ivc bYTy sn ik ikvyN iswK Drm ivc imlfvt kIqI jfvy qy Aus
ny hI sfnUM qoqf rtn krnf isKfieaf hY jo awj iswK Drm df aMg bx cuikaf hY. jy
awj koeI ies dy briKlfP avfjL AuTfAuNdf hY qF iswKI bfxy ivc Cup bYTf pMizq, jo
awj kwlH jwQydfr aKvfAuNdf hY, AusnUM pMQ ivcoN Cyk idMdf hY. jy rwb myrI Xfd
ivc nhI, qF hoeygf dunIaF df krqf Drqf rwb, pr myry vfsqy rwb nhI hY. jo kuwJ
myrI Xfd ivc hY myry vfsqy AuhI kuwJ hY dUjf nhI. keI vfrI koeI cIjL myrI jyb
ivc huMdI hY pr myrI Xfd ivc nhI. ies krky mYN Auh cIjL ikDry lwBdf iPrdf huMdf
hF. ies krky pRmfqmf df Xfd ivc hoxf qy iksy smyN vI Xfd ivcoN bfhr nf inklxf hI
ismrn ikhf jf skdf hY. pr awj sfnUM iswK Drm ivc ieh isiKaf idwqI jFdI hY ik aih
pMj bfxIaF pVo, inqnym kro, pRmfqmf nUM afpxI Xfd ivc vsfE jf nf vsfE, qoqf rtn
kro, qusIN pwky iswK aKvfAuNgy. ies krky hI qF iswKF df awj ieh hfl hY.
dusrI gwl ieh ik jdoN mYN BfeI vIr isMG jI dIaF afizt kIqIaF
BfeI gurdfs dIaF vfrF pVHdf hF qF ieh sLMkf AuBr ky sfhmxy afAuNdf hY ik ieh
pAuVI BfeI gudfs jI dI nhI hY. bhuq sfry sLMky jo bhuq ivdvfnF ny ies pAuVI bfry
kIqy hn Auh BfeI vIr isMG jI ny �vfrF BfeI gurdfs stIk� dy pMnf 40 qoN pMnf 44
qk jLfhr kIqy hn sfnUM sfry iswKF nUM jF nfnk lyvf iswKF nUM jLrUr vfcxy cfhIdy
hn. vfrF BfeI gurdfs stIk swcf sOdf dukfn qy AuplwBq hY.
svfl: zf: sfihbf myrf suafl hY. myrf nfm myrI mfqf ny rwiKaf hY
myry ipqf ny rwiKaf hY. iesdy Ault pRmfqmf nUM afpxf ipqf smJ ky vI Ausdf nfm
afp rwKx zhy hoey hF. ies nUM qusIN iks qrHF dlIl nfl smJfEgy.
AuWqr: afsf dI vfr ivc aieaf hY, "afpInYH afpu sfijE afpInYH
ricE nfAu] duXI kudriq sfjIaY kir afsxu izTo cfAu] m:1, pMnf 463] gurU nfnk
sfihb afp kih rhy ny Eh sYBM hY. Ausny afpxy afp nUM afp sfijaf hY qy afpxf nfm
vI afp hI rwiKaf hY. afpxy qoN bfad ijhVI Ausny isrjxf kIqI hY Eh kudrq hY. svfl
hY;
nfAu qyrf inrMkfr hY] nfAu leIaY nrku n jfeIaY]
ieh vI gurU nfnk sihb kih rhy ny. Eh sYBM aY. Aus ny afpxf nfm
inrMkfr vI afp hI rwiKaf hoieaf hY. asINN ijhVy Ausdy nfm rwK rhy hF Eh gux aqy
krm krky rwK rhy hF. ijvyN mfvF afpxy puqr nUM kihx lwg pYNdIaF hn, myrf puq
rfjf, myrI DI rfxI. ies df kIh arQ hY. nfm qy rwiKaf hoieaf hY mF ny pihlF vI.
myrf puq bhfdr hY ieh kihx nfl kI Ausdf puqr sUrmf ho jFdf hY? iblI nUM vyK ky
zr irhf hY. lyikn mF dI gwl sux ky "myrf puq sUrmf" ieh sux ky sUrimaf vfly gux
af gey. ijsnUM qusIN ipafr krdy ho Ausdy anykF nfm lYNdy ho. gurU dy nfm rwKxf
ieh gwl qusIN ies qrHF kih rhy ho. drasl ieh gwl ies qrHF nhI.
"vzf sfihb vzI nfeI" m: 5, pMnf 1081] vzy myry sfihbf ikaf jfxf
gux qyry]
vwzy sfihb dy vwzy gux ny. vwzIaF vizafeIaF ny. vwzy gux ny
vwzy krm ny. Auhdy vwzy krmF krky vwzy nfm rwKy gey hn.
svfl: zf: sfihbf dsm gRMQ dI sLYlI bfry jdoN mYN dyKdf hF qF
mYnUM ieh sLwk huMdf hY ik sfzy gurU sfihbF dI ieh sLYlI hI nhI ho skdI ikAuNik
ieh aYnI ku asLlIl sLYlI hY ijs nUM afm krky asIN GrF ivc iekWTy bYT ky pVH nhI
skdy. ieh sfry pMny qkrIbn qkrIbn dsm gRMQ dy awDy pMny hn ijhVy asLlIl sLYlI
nfl Bry pey hn. Ausdy bfvjUd vI sfzy awj dy skflr ieh kih rhy hn ik dsm gRMQ
gurU goibMd isMG jI dI ikRq hY. jdoN ik gurU gRMQ sfihb ivc sunq lPjL pihlF af
cuikaf hY pr bicqR nftk dy pihly aiDafey dy 100vyN bMd ivc,
" pRIq kry pRBu pfXq hY] ikrpfl n BIjq lFz ktfey]"
aOr ies qrHF dIaF hor bhuq sfrIaF BYVIaF AudfhrxF dsm gRMQ ivc
mOjUd hn. AunHF ivcoN mYN iek do quhnUM pVH ik dws skdf hF.
bhu BFq BjI] ins lO n qjI] doAU rIJ rhy] nih jfq khy]30]d[gRMQ
pMnf 616
jdoN ikRsLn qy gopIaF nUM dUqI imlf idMdI hY qF kvI ny dsm gRMQ
ivc Ausdf ijLkr ieMJ kIqf hY.
cfr pRkfr ko Bog kIXo nr nfr hulfs jIXY mY bZYkY] afsn kok ky
bIc ijqy kib BfKq hY su sBY ien kYkY] bfq khI anruwD kCU mhskfie qRIaf sMg nYn
ncYkY] ijAu hmrI qum hoie rhI suMdir iqAu hmhU qumry rhy hvYkY] 2205]d[ gRMQ
pMnf 533.
ikRsLn avqfrf ivc vI kvI ikRsLn Bgvfn nUM kfm vfsLnf vws hox
qoN isvfey hor kuwJ nhI idKf irhf. zf: sfihbf huux mYnU ieh nhI pqf cwldf ik jy
dsm gRMQ ivclI bfxI gurUbfxI hY qF mYN gurU gRMQ sfihb ivclI bfxI nUM kI
khF?
AuWqr : gwl ieh hY jy qusIN ies nUM isLMgfr rs dI bfxI mMno qF
quhzf sLMkf nivrq ho jFdf hY. sfzI musLkl ieh hY ik asIN nFh vfck idRsLtI nfl
ies df aiDaYn kr rhy hF. mYN quhzy koloN iek svfl puCxF cfhuMdI hF, " kI qusIN
iehI pMgqIaF pVHIaF hn jF hor vI ikRsLn avqfr vI piVHaf hY?
mYzm mYN sfrf dsm gRMQ qF nhI piVHaf pr bhuq sfrf piVHaf hY ijs
ivcoN mYnUM qF iehI kuwJ hI imldf hY. bfkI smJ vI nhI pYNdI. iesdy nfl hI quhnUM
iek hor svfl:
kY jV pRfnn kI afsf qju] kY ruic mfin afAu muih kO Bju] kY quih
kfit krY sq KMzf] kY dY moir Bg ibKY lMzf]11] d[g[ pMnf 1267]
ieqnI asLlIl bolI kI gurU goibMd isMG jI vrq skdy sn? dUsrf
svfl ik kI pihly nON gurU quhfzy vfly isLgfr rs qoN nfvfkP sn?
AuWqr: nf pihly nON gurU isLgfr rs qoN axjfx nhI sn. cMgf ieh
hY ik quhfnUM gurU gRMQ sfihb dy isLgfr rs df pqf nhI. jy quhnUM gurU gRMQ sfihb
dy ivcoN ieh ( isLgfr rs dI ) smJ af jfvy qF iswKF ny ies qoN ( Bfv dsm gRMQ
vflI hflq hI kr dyxI sI ) Gwt nhI sI gujfrnI. svfl ies gwl df hY ik asIN dsm
gRMQ ivcoN ieho ijhIaF pMgqIaF hI ikAUN pVH rhy hF. dsm gRMQ dy ivc igafn pRboD
bfxI peI hY, cfr sO cfr icRqr pey ny. cfr sO cfr icRqrF nUM sfhmxy rwK ky, iek
iek icRqr df AudysL kI hY, AuWs dI khfxI kI hY. myrf nhI iKafl ik cfrf sO cfr
icRqrF ivcoN cfr icRqr vI aYsy nhI hn ijnHF ivc gurU goibMd isMG jI ny aYsI
asLlIl bfxI vrqI hY quhfzy muqfibk ijvyN qusIN kih rhy ho. sfzI cyqnf ies pfsy
hI ikAUN jf rhI hY aOr dUjy pfsy ikAUN nhI jFdI. myrf isrP byisk ienHF hI svfl
hY. jy qusIN asLlIl rcnfvF pVH ky hI gurU sfihb bfry jLfeIjf kr rhy ho qF myrI
rfie isrP ienHI hY ik qusIN jfp sfihb vrgI bfxI vI pVHo. ijQoN quhnUM ies gwl dI
smJ af jfvy ik gurU sfihb ny 199 nfm jfp sfihb ivc akfl purK dy vrnx kIqy ny.
asIN Aus bfxI dI gwl nhI kr rhy, asIN asLlIl bfxI dI hI gwl krI jf rhy hF, asIN
ieho ijhIaF qukF cuk lYNdy hF qy ieh gwl krdy hF. mYnUM ieMJ lgdf hY ik ijvyN
sfzI mfnskqf nUM ieh gwl ijLafdf sOKI lgdI hY, ieh ijLafdf cMgI lgdI hY, sfzf
awj df ruJfn hI ies pfsy ho igaf hY. ar ieho ijhIaF ijhVIaF gwlF asIN gurU sfihb
nUM kih rhy hF ieh asLlIl ny pRIvfrF ivc bYT ky nhI pVHIaF jf skdIaF, quhfzy
muKoN ikvyN sohxIaF lg rhIaF ny, qusIN afpxy pRIvfrF ivc bYT ky ikvyN ilK rhy ho
jF ieh aKbfrF quhfzy pRIvfrF ivc vI jFdIaF ny, qusIN ieQy ikAUN guryj nhI kr
rhy.
Auprly jvfb df myry vloN jvfb.
ieh dwsx vfsqy ik dsm gRMQ ivc bfxI dI rUp ryKf kI hY. ies krky
mYnUM ieh slok bolxf ipaf. nhI qF mYN afpxy mF bfp, BYx Brf, ieQoN qk ik mYN
quhzy sfhmxy vI afpxf isr JUkf ky hI ieh slok piVHaf hY, mYN afpxf isr Aucf cuwk
ky nhI pVH sikaf ikAuUNik mYN ieh awKF quhfzy sfhmxy hfjr hI nhI kr skdf ijhVIaF
ies qrHF dI asLlIl kivqf nUM pVH rhIaF hn. dUsrI gwl ieh hY ik gurU gRMQ sfihb
dy mukfbly BFvyN iek vI awKr asLlIl hovy qF iPr EhI svfl KVf huMdf hY ik gurU
goibMd isMG jI ny ieh awKr, GtIaf awKr, afpxI bfxI ivc ikhVy hwQF nfl pfieaf.
qusIN qF zf: mihMdr kOr igwl jI pMgqIaF dI gwl kr rho ho vYsy qF dsm gRMQ dy
sfry 1428 pMinaF ivcoN 712 pMny aYsy hn ijnHF qy asLlIl khfxIaF/ kivqfvF ilKIaF
hoeIaF hn. ijnHF df gurU dI isiKaf nfl koeI sMbMD nhI jfpdf. mYnUM ieh smJ nhI
pYNdI ik gurU goibMd isMG jI iekwly bYT ky ieqnf vwzf gRMQ sfnUM asLlIlqf aqy
aOrqF dy icRqr, mkfr, Pryb dwsx vfsqy ilK rhy sn. aOrqF nUM mfVf kihx vfsqy ieh
gRMQ iliKaf igaf hY jF kuwJ hor. cfr sO cfr icRqrF ivcoN iek vI aYsf icRqr nhI
jo jnfnI nUM mkfrI/ hyrfPyrI vflI iswD nf krdf hovy aqy afdmI nUM buDU jF AulU
bxf ky dUsry afdmI nfl afpxI kfm vfsLnf pUrI krdI nf idKfeI geI hovy. iPr vI
qusIN iehI afKI jf rhy ho ik cfr sO cfr icRqrF ivcoN cfr icRqrF dI bolI vI mfVI
nhI ho skdI. myrf afpxf iKafl ieh hY ik qusIN dsm gRMQ qoN pUrI qrF vfkP nhI.
quhzy kol dsm gRMQ bfry sux sux ky iekwTI kIqI vfkPIawq hY jo iek skflr leI bhuq
QoVI hY.
isLMgfr rs dIaF kuwJ vMngIaF hux gurU gRMQ sfihb ivcoN dyK
lYxIaF hI lfhyvMd rihxgIaF. jo ies pRkfr hn: