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pRYWs irport

aMqrrfÈtrI klfsIkl sMgIq pRiqXoigqf ivwc mYNzoiln vfdk srdfr ggndIp isMG ny pihlf sQfn pRfpq kIqf

pMizq jsrfj afzItoiram, vyidk hYrItyj, inAU Xfrk ivKy hoie aMqrrfÈtrI klfsIkl sMgIq pRiqXoigqf ivwc brylI (ieMizaf) dy ggndIp isMG ny klfsIkl mYNzoiln vfdn ivwc pihlf sQfn pRfpq kIqf.

ieh sMgIq pRiqXoigqf, do crxf ivwc hoeI. muMbeI (Bfrq) ivKy sfry dyÈ qoN sYNkVy phucIaF hoeIaF ieMtrIs ivcoN klfsIkl vfdn dy Kyqr ivwc kyvl aTfrF (18) AumIdvfrf dI cox krky pRiqXoigqf leI AunHf nUM muMbeI bulfieaf igaf, ijs ivwc isqfr, srod, vfieln, qblf, pKfvj, aqy bFsurI afid vwK-vwK klfkfrF df mukfblf hoieaf. inxfiek mMzl dI aguvfeI Auc koit dy sMgIqkfr piMzq jsrfj jI ny kIqI. ies pRqIXoigqf ivwc brylI dy mYNzoiln vfdk ggndIp isMG aqy pUny dy qblf vfdk rfm ikRÈn krmbylkr nUM aiqMm crx dI, inAU Xfrk ivKy hox vflI pRqIXogqf leI cuixaf igaf. ieh pRiqXoigqf loNgafeIlYNz, inAU Xfrk, ivKy hoeI ijs ivwc sMgIq jgq dIaF mhfn hsqIaF sMgIq iÈromxI pMizq jsrfj jI, bFsurI vfdk ÈRI hrI pRsfd corsIaf jI, gRYmI avfrz ivwnr Gtm vfdk ivwkU ivnfXk jI, gMDrb mhF ivdfilaf dy pRbMDk aqy gfiek mDup mudgl jI, aqy pRisD qblf vfdk ÈuBMkr bYnrjI ny ÈmUlIaq kIqI. sB qoN pihlf pUny qoN afey qblf vfdk rfm ikRÈn krmbylkr ny solo qblf vfdn kIqf Aus qoN bfd ggndIp isMG ny mYNzoiln qy rfg jog pRsquq kIqf. ijs nUM sfiraF ny KUb srfihaf. ggndIp isMG ny ies pRqIXogqf ivwc pihlf sQfn pRfpq kIqf.

pMizq jsrfj jI aqy ÈRI hrI pRsfd cOrisXf ny ggndIp dy ies ivdyÈI sfË mYNzoiln Auqy BfrqI klfsIkl rfgF nUµ iswD krn dy kiTn kfry dI pRÈMsf kIqI aqy ikhf ik awj ieh iswD ho igaf hY ik sur sfË ivwc nhI bilk sfË vjfAux vfly ivwc huMdf hY.

gRYmI avfrz jyqU Gtwm vfdk ÈRI ivwkU ivnfXk jI ny ikhf ik AunHf mYNzoiln qy ihMdusqfnI sMgIq dI pRsquqI pihlF kdy nhI suxI. ggndIp nfl qbly dI sMgq pRiswD qblf vfdk ÈuBMkr bYnrjI ny kIqI. ieQy iËkr krnf lfËmI hY ik mYNzoiln iewk pCmI sfË hY qy ies Aupr BfrqI klfsIkl vjfAux vfly bhuq hI Gwt hn.

ggndIp ny awT sfl dI Aumr qoN brylI dy pRiswD klfkfr ÈRI aflok bYnrjI pfso mYNzoiln iswKxf ÈurU kIqf. sMn 1997 ivwc idwlI dI kyNdrI sMsQf (sI[ sI[ afr[ tI[) vloN ggndIp nUM mYNzoiln vfdn leI skolriÈp pRdfn kIqI geI. 2006 ivwc imnIstrI afP klcr vloN ggndIp nUM sInIar skflriÈp pRdfn kIqI geI. donF sMsQFvf vloN klfsIkl mYNzoiln vfdn dy Kyqr ivwc skflriÈp pRfpq krn vflf ggndIp pihlf AumIdvfr hY.

ggndIp ny Auqr pRdyÈ sMgIq nftk aYkzmI lKnAu vloN afXoijq sMgIq pRqIXoigqf ivwc bfl vrg, ikÈor vrg aqy Xuvf vrg iqwnf ivwc pihlf sQfn pRfpq kIqf. ggndIp dI pRiqBf qoN pRBfivq ho ky sfbkf pRDfn mMqrI ÈRI atÜ ibhfrI bfjpeI aqy surjIq isMG brnflf ny sMn 1998 nUUM, ggndIp nUM lKnAu ivKy avfrz dy ky snmfinq kIqf. muMbeI ivKy 2006 ivwc ggndIp nUM sMgIq jgq dy pRiswD snmfn "surmxI" nfl invfijaf igaf.

ggndIp Bfrq aqy ivdyÈ dIaF anykF QfvF qy afpxI klf df pRdrÈn kr cukf hY aqy nfl hI drbfr sfihb aMimRqsr ivKy vI kIrqn nfl mYNzoiln vjf ky sMgqF dIaf asIsF pRfpq kr cukf hY.

ggndIp igafnI amrjIq isMG dy Coty spuqr hn. ggndIp afpxy BrfvF nfl imlky kIrqn dI syvf krdy hn aqy "akfl kIrqnI jwQf" dy nF nfl pRiswD hn aqy awjkl inÈkfm syvf gurdvfrf sfihb iPinks, aYrIËOnf ivwKy kIrqn dI syvf kr rhy hn.

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kfrj isMG sMDU aqy sfQI

aYNzI jI,

afp jI nUM Xfd hovygf, jdo asI aKOqI dsm gRMQ dy hmfieqI gurÈrnjIq isMG lFbf nUM pwqr iliKaf sI qF Aus ivwc bVy spwÈt sbdf ivwc ‘iswK mfrg zft kfm’ `qy ivcfr ivtfdrF krn df swdf idwqf igaf sI. lFbf jI ny awj qwk sfzf ieh swdf pRvfn nhI kIqf. pr afp jI ny ‘mudeI susq `qy gvfh cusq’ dy muhfvry qy aml kridaf Jwt-pwt ieh Pwqvf dy idwqf ik isMG sBf iewk guMmnfm sMsQf hY.

afp jI ilwKdy ho:

"guMm-nfm aMqrfÈtrI isMG sBf

AupRokq BUmI-gq aMqrfÈtrI isMG sBf vloN lukvIN kflf aÌgfnI BfÈf ivwc iswK isDFq nUM ieslfmI isDfqF nfl qolidaF hoieaF iewk lÌË 'kuÌr' dI vrqoN kIqI geI; ijs nfl afpxf pMjfbI BfÈf bfry idvflf kwiZaf igaf hY[" (akqUbr 21)

akqUbr dI 23 qrIK nUM afp dI eI-myl df AuWqr dlIl nfl idwqf igaf qf afp jI ny knyzf df pqf mMg ilaf.

Gur fateh ,

Pirey Satkaaryog "Singh Sabha International Jio" , you have asked me that I hide my name and you know it very well as you have addressed . You have again missed giving your name/where abouts in Canada Vancouver which have been asked many times .( akqUbr 23)

afp jI ny afpxI aglI eI-myl (akqUbr 24) ivwc ieh sunyhf ilK Byijaf:

"Gur fateh Ji ,

I don't intend to start a disucssion with you people as you are liers and hide your identity putting a fake curtain on your faces  and calling Gurmukhs . I will clear your identity also in this article/mail so that the respected readers may know who you are all and which place you belong to…

isMG sBf ieMtrnYÈnl kfnPrMs vwloN pfs kIqy gey mqyagsq 2, 2003, roËivwl, kYlyPornIaf

1[ awj df ieh iekwT jQydfr sRI akfl qÉq sfihb vloN sR[ guurbKÈ isMG kflf aÌgfnf pRqI pMQ ivcoN Cykx dy afdyÈ nUM apRvfn krdf hY ikAuNik ieh Drm inaF dy ivprIq aqy ÈromxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI sRI aMimRqsr vloN sQfipq Drm pRcfr kmytI dy PYsly dy Ault iewk bdlf-lAU kfrvfeI hY.

2[ ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI qy hor isK sMsQfvF qy smUh gurisK sMgqF nUM apIl krdf hY ik gur-ieqhfs nUM klMikq krn vflI pusqk gur iblfs pfqÈfhI 6 vIN dy sMpfdk aqy ibprvfd dy hmfieqI BfeI joigMdr isMG vydFqI nUM sRI akfl qÉq sfihb dI jQydfrI qoN htfieaf jfvy.

7[ sRo[ gu[ pR[ kmytI qoN purËor mMg krdf hY ik aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry, ijs nUM do qKqF Aupr ÈRI gurUU gRMQ sfihb qul mfnqf idqI jFdI hY, jldI hI ÈpwÈt inrxf ilaf jfvy qF jo sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI srb AuWcqf aqy mhfnqf kfiem rih sky.

9[ awj df iekwT purËor mMg krdf hY ik "afsf kI vfr" df kIrqn gur asQfnF qy sfihb sRI gurU gRMQ dy aMdr drj bfxI anusfr kIqf jfvy (pfAuVIaF aqy slok) ikAuNik ies ivwc kIqI afpxy vloN qbdIlI afpxy afp nUM gurU qoN isafxf drsfAux df koJf Xqn hY jo inrol mnmiq hY gurmiq nhIN.

The readers may kindly find that there are no names or signatures of the constituents of this "SINGH SABHA INTERNATIONAL" WHICH MAKE IT A FAKE BODY .

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aYzI jI, ieh TIk hY ky jo mqy afp jI ny eI-myl rfhI pfTkF nUM Byjy hn ienHF qy iksy dy dsKq nhI hn (there are no names or signatures) pr ies ivwc qF mqf nM: 3, 4, 5, 6 aqy 8 vI nhI hn. kI pRbMDkF ny hI mqy ilKx vyly ieh glqI kIqI hovygI jF ieh ÈYqfnI afp ny kIqI hY? jdo afp ny kfpI krky pyst hI krny sn qF ieh ÈYqfnI ikE? ijQo afp jI ny ieh mqy kfpI kIqy hn (iswK builtn akqUbr 2003) kI Aus prcy dy muwK pMny Aupr sMsQf df aqf-pqf nhI hY? ey zI aYP aYm jI qusI qF jfxIjfx ho, pr pfTkF dI jfxkfrI leI ieh dwsxf jrUrI hY ik ieh BwdrpurÈ nbMvr 1999 qoN julfeI 2001 qwk ‘iswK builtn’ dy aYzItorIal borz df mYbr irhf hY. awj ies df nfm Aus prcy dy muK pMny Aupr nhI Cwpdf qF ies ny sMsQF nUM hI gumnfm kihxf ÈUru kr idwqf hY. aYzI jI, bynqI hY ik sfry mqy Byjx dy nfl-nfl pfTkF nUM ieh jfxkfrI vI idE ik AupRokq miqaF ivwc glq kI hY?

qusI sfnUM JUTy iliKaf hY pr ho qusI afp, qusI JUT boldy hI nhI sgo ilKdy vI ho. kro drÈn.

Dear Mr Jeonwala Jee,

The following statement of Mr Mangat belongs to Mr Mangat. It is not my statement: I do refer to Gurbilas Patshai 6 that particular portion has beenmentioned in my writings since it appears to be very logical.The quoting of this information from Gurbilas Patshai 6 does not mean that every thing written in it is true. I hope you have my book, SABD GRUU TO GRANTH GRUU. Please read my quote at page 38-39 carefully and if you find anything wrong please let me know. HOWEVER, PLEASE LOOK INTO REMARKS AFTER THE INTERPRETATION AT PAGE 39: (SEE NOTE # 4). This note is found explained at page 74. And at the end of this Note it says: I MAY ALSO ADD HERE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF INFROMATION IN GRUBILASPATSHAHI 6, WHICH IS CONTRARY TO THAT OF NANAKIAN PHILOSOPHY AND SCIENTIFICALLY INCRORECT. THE RESEARCH ERS SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO USE INFROMATION RFOM THIS SROUCE TO CONSTRUCT SIKHISM. I hope I have made it clear. If there is any other information needed I would be glad to respond.I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY SOME SCHOLARS MISUSE THE WRITINGS OF OTHERS.. I am always at your service and for the service to put Sikhi on the right track.Regards,

Devinder Singh Chahal

aYzI jI, hux afp jI ny iewk nvI tucr zfh idwqI hY, ‘ikANik qusI cYlNj krdy ho ies leI qusI gurisK hI nhI ho’. ey zI aYP aYm jI, qusI rMg brMgy nfvF nfl ieh kMm ipCly keI sflF qo lgfqfr kr rhy ho.

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh.

He has rightly said: "Gursikh never challenge".

But it does not apply to him because he has been challenging other Gursikhs for the last ten years. It would thus indicate that he is not a Gursikh ? We should accept his Edict.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

aYNzI jI, asI qF aKOqI dsm gRMQ dy AupfÈkf nfl sfrI dunIaF dy sfhmxy ivcfr ivtfdrf krnf cfhuMdy hF, pr afp jI ies vfsqy iqafr nhI ho. afp jI dI mMg nUM muwK rwKdy hoey, afp jI nUM knyzf df pqF aqy tYlIPUn df nMbr vI dy idwqf igaf hY, pr hYrfnI dI gwl hY ik afp jI ny hux koeI huMgfrf nhI Biraf? jy kr afp jI nUM ‘lfVy dI qfeI’ (lFby df qfieaf) df rol inBfAux df eynf hI ÈOk hY qF kro sfzf swdf pRvfn. afp jI jy kr torFto nhI afAuxf cfhuMdy qF asI vYnkuvr afAux leI iqafr hF. afpxy ivckfr hoey ivcfr-ivtfdry nUM ieMtrnYt `qy pfAux dI syvf vI asI afpxy ijmyN lYNdy hF.

afp jI dy huMgfry dI AuzIk ivc:

sR[ kfrj isMG sMDU iPlfzYlPIaf, sR[ srbjIq isMG sYkrfmYNto, sR[ qrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI), sR gurcrn isMG brfV ijAuxvflf knyzf, ig[ aMimRqpfl isMG sYlmF (U S A) pRo[ mwKx isMG sYkrfmYNto, zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl sYnhojy, ipRMsIpl sR[ jsbIr isMG ropV, BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy bIbI hrismrq kOr Éflsf (U S A)

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gurbKLsL isMG kflf aPLgfnf (pRYWs rIport)

awj imqI akqUbr òú, òúú÷ ƒ Brampton dy Royal India Restaurant dy hall ivwc srdfr gurbKÈ isMG kflf aPÊfnf dI iswK pMQ pusqkF-rUp vzmuwlI dyx bfry gurmiq ivcfr smfgm hoieaf. smfgm ivwc North America dy vwKry vwKry sihrF qoN kOm leI drd rwKx vfly gurmuKF ny Bfg ilaf. pRogrfm ivwc dbulfiraF leI, gurmiq anusfr punr jnm, krmkFz, pujfrIvfd aqy zyrfvfd muwK ivÈy sn. ijQy sfiraF bulfiraF ny pujfrIaF aqy gurdvfiraF dy pRbMDkF dIaF gurmiq ivroDI krqUqF dI BrpUr inKyDI kIqI AuQy sfiraF ny s: kflf aÌgfnf vwloN afpxIaF ilKqF duafrf gur sMgqF ƒ gurmiq igafn dI soJI krfAux vflI anmol syvf dI ÈlfGf krn dy nfl, BfeI joigMdr isMG jI spoksmYn cMzIgVH dI Aus anUpm inrBYqf dI bfr bfr purËor ÈlfGf kIqI jo Auh sfiraF ÉqiraF qoN lfprvfh rih ky aqIaMq aOKy smy BfeI gurbÉÈ isMG jI dy nfl moZf joVI rwKx ivwc drsfAuNdy afey hn.

ies smfgm ivwc pRo: mwKx isMG jI sYkrfmYNto styj skwqr sn ijnHF ny ieh syvf bVI Xogqf nfl inBfeI. smfgm dy afrMB ivwc s: gurbKÈ isMG kflf aÌgfnf ny ardfs dy prclq ZMg ƒ gurmiq ivroDI grdfnidaf spwÈt kIqf ik, sfrI sMgq gurU gRMQ sfihb jI vl muK kr KloqI suKmnI sfihb dy ies pfvn pdy – "qU Tfkuru qum pih ardfis «…[ [ nfnk dfs sdf kurbfnI``-dy gfien nfl isrjxhfr akfl purK dI hËUrI ivwc ÌirafdI ho jFdy hn. ikzI bydlIlI aqy hfso hIxI siQqI huMdI jd ardfsIaf-! ñE vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih sRI BgOqI jI shfey` gurU bfxI ivwc nf hox kfrn gurmiq ivroDI hn so kyvl suKmnI sfihb dy pdy qoN agy kyvl ieh bcn ik-dfqfr jI hux qk df smf afp jI dI imhr nfl suK df bqIq hoieaf awgy sdf gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy hukm aDIn jIvn bqIq krdy rihx dI smrQf bÉÈÈ kro jI qy sIs invf ky gurmiq ivcfrF srvx krn leI iewk icq ho bYTIey.

bulfiraF ivwc s: rGbIr isMG smwg gurbfxI tI[ vI, ny dwisaf ik Auh iks qrF kflf aÌgfnf jI dy nyVy afey aqy ñùùú qoN bfd hux qwk AuhnF dIaF keI ieMtrivAU kr cuwky hn. AuhnF muqfibk kflf aÌgfnf jI ieho ijhy ivdvfn hn jo swc dI gwl krdy aqy AunHF ƒ gurmiq dI ijs scfeI qy XkIn XkIn bJ jFdf hY Ausƒ lokF qwk hr hflq ivwc phuMcfAuNdy hn. AuhnF dwisaf ik iksqrF S.G.P.C vwloN sfzy ivwc bRfhmxI pKMzF ƒ vfiVaf jf irhf hY, cfhy Auh Üfive kIrqn AuWqy vKfey jf rhy pKMz, isropy cVfAuxy jF pYsy suwt ky mwQy tykxy aqy Dwkf muwkI hoxf afid nfl asIN Disorganised kOm lgdy hF. AuhnF ikhf ik jy asIN kflf aÌgfnf jI dy ilKy ñú% igafn anusfr vI cwl peIey qF Auh bhuq vwzI AuplwbDI hovygI. s: hrgurdyv isMG rMDfvf Windsor (Canada) ny ikhf ik aKMz pfT iewk pKMz pfT hY, ikAuNik iewk pfsy pfT ho irhf huMdf hY dUjy pfsy pfrtI cwl rhI huMdI hY. awj kQfvfck, kIrqnIey df guru dI gwl Gwt aqy lokF dIaF jybF vwl ijafdf iDafn huMdf hY. s: amrjIq isMG cfhl ny s: kflf aÌgfnf ƒ vDfeI dyNidaF ikhf ik AuhnF ny swc ƒ smiJaf aqy lokF ivwc vMizaf hY. AuhnF gurbfxI dy hvfly dy ky dwisaf ik iksqrF gurbfxI ivwc punr jnm bfry koeI QF nhIN. punr jnm bRfhmxI soc dI Aupj hY ijsƒ ik ivigafink igafn nkfrdf hY. s: mnjIq isMG shoqf ny sn 1989 qoN hux qwk dy s: kflf aÌgfnf jI nfl kIqy sÌr bfry dwisaf. AuhnF ikhf ik Drm dy Tykydfr iehnF rfhI gurU sMgq ƒ puwj rhI scu dI avfj ƒ dwbf dyx df bVf BrpUr Xnq kIqf pr scy iswKF dy mn qy Ërf asr nf ipaf. AunHF afiKaf ik sfƒ ies lVI ivwc pRogrfm krdy rih ky, gurmiq igafn ƒ Gr Gr phuMcfAuxf cfhIdf hY.

gurmIq isMG Free Mount ny s: gurbKÈ isMG kflf aÌgfnf dy Xogdfn awj dy hflfq aqy Spokesman Aupr kIqy jf rhy hmly nfl sMbMiDq bhuq Bfvuk kivqf pVI. ies kivqf ivwc pRo gurmuK iÈMG, igafnI idwq isMG aqy Bfg isMG aMbflf dI vI ÈlfGf kIqI geI. s: ikRpfl isMG inwjr inAUXfrk ny s: kflf aPgfnF jI vloN rwKy ardfs bfry ivcfrF dI jordfr pRoiVqf kIqI. AunHF ikhf ik sfƒ ies movement ƒ awgy lY qurnf cfhIdf hY. AuhnF ikhf ik sfzI ieh lVfeI óúú sfl qoN cl rhI hY. ies kfrj ivwc sfnMU iksy qoN zrn dI loV nhIN hY. klm dI jMg ivwc ÈFqI nfl sfiraF ƒ Educate krdy rihx dI loV hY.

s: mwKx isMG ny styj dI syvf kridaF ikhf ik pMQ gurU kihxf bhuq hI nuksfndfiek hY ikAuNik pMQ ƒ guru kihx krky hI akflI dl dy zyry pMQ bx gey hn aqy afpxy afp ƒ guru brfbr smJx lwg pey hn. AuhnF ny ikhf ik gurU iblfs pfqÈfhI CyvIN jo ik joigMdr isMG vydFqI aqy amrjIq isMG vloN sMpfdq kIqI geI hY dy ivcly gurmiq ivroDI glF Aupr lyK iliKaf jo ik spoksmYn ivwc Cwpx qoN bfad lokF df roh vyKdy hoey vydFqI vloN ieh ikqfb vfips leI geI sI. iehI kfrn sI ik vydFqI ny s: kflf aPgfnF ƒ pMQ ivcoN Cyikaf sI. AuhnF ny sMgqF ƒ apIl kIqI Auh gurU iblfs pfqÈfhI CyvIN jo ik joigMdr isMG vydFqI aqy amrjIq isMG vloN sMpfdq aqy s: kflf aPgfnF vloN ilKI gurU iblfs pfqÈfhI CyvIN gurbfxI dI kÈvtI qy pVHky PYslf krn ik pMQ ivcoN iks ƒ Cykxf cfihdf sI. AuhnF ny spoksmYn df bhuq hI DMnvfd kIqf ijsdy rfhIN Auh s: gurbKÈ isMG kflfaÌgfnf ƒ iml sky. smfgm dy aMq ivwc s: gurqyj isMG afeI[ ey[ aYs, kulbIr isMG hrimMdr isMG, avqfr isMG imÈnrI, hrismrq kOr Kflsf kYlIÌornIaf vwloN Byjy sMdyÈ pVy qy suxfey gey. ies gwl qy vI jor idwqf ik ies smfgm ƒ hr sfl krvfieaf jfvy qF ik ies soc ƒ hor awgy lYky jfieaf jfvy.

s: gurbKÈ isMG kflf aÌgfnf aqy joigMdr isMG spoksmYn ƒ ajoky smyN Drm dy TykydfrF vwloN dbfAux dI koiÈÈ kIqI geI aqy jfrI hY pr iehnF dI bulMd swc dI avfj awj vI aqy afAux vfly smyN ivwc vI swc dI pihcfx krfAuNdI rhygI. iehnF ny iewk lihr bxf dyxI hY ijs dy kfrn hI awj afm afdmI vI swc ƒ pihcfxdf aqy iehnF jQydfrF aqy Drm dy TykydfrF dI kfrjpRxflI Auqy ikMqU pRMqU kr skdf hY. ies leI Auh smyN dUr nhIN jdoN iswK kOm ƒ pujfrIvfd qoN Cutkfrf iml jfvygf.

ies smfgm ivwc ikRpfl isMG inwjr korinMg inAUXfrk, rGbIr isMG smwg gurbfxI tI[ vI, amrjIq isMG cfhl Scarborough, gwjx isMG gryvfl, hrcMd isMG, amrjIq isMG ghodrf Brampton Senior Club, gurimMdr isMG srkfrIaf, mnjIq isMG shoqf, ieMdrdIp isMG iswDU, surjIq isMG, ieMdrbIr isMG iÈkfgo, zf: gurmIq isMG brsfl San Jose, hrgurdyv isMG rMDfvf ivMzsr, amrIk isMG mIsIsfgf ivÈyÈ qOr qy phuMcy. kflf aÌgfnf pirvfr vwloN pRkfÈ kOr, zf: jsivMdr isMG iZwloN aqy bIbI XÈrIq kOr vwloN afAux vfly sfry gurmuKF df DMnvfd kIqf.

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf)

BfeI suirMdr isMG jI dy KLq df jvfb.

mYN afpxy afp nUM BfgF vflf smJdf hF ik koeI iensfn qF hY ijhVf myrI ilKq nUM pVHdf hY. sR[ suirMdr isMG jI quhfzf bhuq bhuq DMnvfd.

gurU nfnk pfqÈfh awj srIrk ql qy sfzy ivwc nhI hn. ieh scfeI hY. Aus CotI jhI icwTI ivwc koeI glqI nhI. ies krky hI mYN iksy dy iksy kol jfx dI gwl kIqI hY. ijs rUp ivwc Auh sfzy kol jF sfzy ivwc hn Aus srUp ivwc vI Auh iksy kol jFdy nhI sgoN Aus srUp ivwc vI AynHF df vwzmulf sunyhf ienHF JUTy lokF nUM dyx leI iksy dI loV hY. bfkI hr iensfn glqI krdf hY mYN vI glqI krdf hF. pr Aus ilKq ivwc Auh glqI nhI jo qusIN smJdy ho. iPr vI iKmf df jfck hF.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf)

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mihMdr isMG

Veer Kulwinder Singh Ji,
Bualo Fateh
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa ||
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ||
I read information that you shared with us on Sikhmarg about meeting among Sikh-Missionaries being held in Faridabadh. Thank you very much for sharing that with us. Now, I have a request to you, and to those who will be participating in these programs, to make Videos of all the meetings, so we Sikhs can see how scholars talk to each other in such meetings. How complicated things reach to some solutions. Once again, Thank you veer Ji!
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa ||
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ||
Mohinder Singh
Rochester NY
585-503-5328

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kulivMdr isMG

dysL Br dy iswK imÈnrI ñú-ññ nvMbr nUM ÌrIdfbfd ivwc iekwTy ho ky sFJI jQybMdI kfiem krngy

cMzIgVH (…) – pMjfb Br aqy dys dy dUjy ihwisaF qoN ielfvf ivdyÈF ivcoN vI keI iswK imÈnrI, ivdvfn qy gurmiq pRymI ñú-ññ nvMbr nUM ÌrIdfbfd (hirafxf) ivwc iekwTy hoxgy. ies mOky `qy ijwQy iswK imÈnrI lihr df lyKf joKf kIqf jfvygf AuWQy iewk sFJI jQybMdI bxfAux aqy iewk pRcMz imÈnrI lihr clfAux vfsqy ivcfrF krn qy plfinMg bxfey jfx dI vI afs hY. bhuqy imÈnrIaF df ivcfr hY ik ijs mksd nUM lY ky õú sfl pihlF iswK imÈnrI lihr nUM ÈurU kIqf igaf sI, Auh inÈfnf KuMJ igaf hY aqy iswK imÈnrI kflj, guru goibMd isMG stwzI srkl, akfl purK kI ÌOj qy hor sMsQfvF ‘sQfpqI’ qy ‘grupF dy adfry’ bx ky rih geIaF hn. ipCly cflHI sfl ivwc dunIaF ivwc afeI qbdIlI nUM ies lihr dy bhuqy afgU smJ nhIN sky jF Auh kuwJ krn vfsqy iqafr nhIN hn. ielYktrOink mIzIaf, kOmFqrI pRcfr, smfjk qbdIlIaF, afrQk msilaF nUM ieh grup smJx ivwc nfkfmXfb hoey hn. ies hflq ivwc imÈnrI lihr nUM ikvyN clfieaf jfxf hY bfry ivcfrF krn vfsqy dys Br dy iswK imÈnrI, ivdvfn qy gurmiq pRymI ñú-ññ nvMbr nUM ÌrIdkot ivwc iekwTy hoxgy. ieh iekwT dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc dy muK hfl aYn[ aYc-õ/ñúõ, mMdr dy nyVy ivwc hovygf.

ies ivwc hornF qoNielfvf iswK ieiqhfskfr zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr, Aupkfr isMG PrIdfbfd, zf suKpRIq isMG AUdoky, ig hrbMs isMG qyÊ, rijMdr isMG Kflsf, ikRpfl isMG biTMzf, hrlfj isMG bhfdrpur, rivMdr isMG rfxIgMj, gurmIq isMG rFcI JfrKMz, qrlocn kOr XU[ pI[ , cyarmYn gurbÉÈ isMG jlMDr, igafnI amrIk isMG, kMvr mihMdr pRqfp isMG, zf qrlocn isMG, jsivMdr isMG zubeI, suKivMdr isMG sBrF, rivMdr isMG ipMjOr, rivMdr isMG Kflsf, hrijMdr isMG sBrF, jrnYl isMG nvFÈihr, qrsym isMG cyarmYn idwlI, krnl gurdIp isMG, suKdyv isMG mohflI, igafnI surjIq isMG, amnpRIq isMG luiDafxf, amrjIq isMG cMdI, minMdrpfl isMG cONqf, ipRqpfl isMG rudrpur, hrpRIq kOr jYpur qy hor bhuq sfry imÈnrI puwj rhy hn. ies smfgm ivwc hr iewk imÈnrI nUM KulHf swdf idwqf igaf hY.

ÉbrF iml rhIaF hn ik gurmiq tksfl dy nF hyT iewk jQybMdI bxf ky iewk pRcMz iswK imÈnrI lihr dy afrMB hox dIaF sMBfvnfvF ids rhIaF hn. BrosyXog imlI sUcnf qoN qF aijhf jfpdf hY ik ieh lihr ñø÷ó ivwc ÈurU hoeI isMG sBf vFg dUjI isMG sBf lihr vFg pRcMz rUp Dfrn kr skdI hY.

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hrmnjIq isMG

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

gurmiq ipafry pfTko aqy ivdvfno

dsm gRMQ dy cyilaF ny do vYbsfeItF ÈurU kIqIaF hn.

http://www.punjabheritage.org/editorials--...h-launched.html

http://www.santsipahi.org/patshahi10/enter.html

KojI ivdvfnF nUM jo pMQ leI kuC krn dy cfhvfn hn, iehnF afrtIklF nUM pVn aqy TokmyN jvfb dyNx. ijhVy ijhVy BfeI jI ies pMQk kfrj ivwc Xogdfn pfAxf cAuNdy hn, afpxy nfm ilK ky Byjx. dfs ieh dsm gMQ vfly afrtIkl izvfeIz (divide) kr skdf hY AuhnF BfeIaF leI, jo ienF afrtIklF bfry kuC ilK skdy hn.

jy pMj bMdy ies kMm qy lwg jfx qF 6-7 lyK iewk bMdy dy ihsy afAuNdy hn. iewk lyK do hPqy bfad vI iqafr ho jfvy qF ieh kMm 3 mhIinaf ivwc muk skdf hY. bfkI mrjI hY afpxI, koeI vwzI gwl vI nhI. vwzI gwl ies krky nhI, krky kMjr kivqf dy cyly kUV kbfV hI boldy hn.

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

gurU kf dfs

hrmnjIq isMG

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Porn book followers have started a couple of websites which they are using to promote pornography and praise of 4 armed gangster called Mahaakaal. These websites are listed below:

http://www.punjabheritage.org/editorials--...h-launched.html

http://www.santsipahi.org/patshahi10/enter.html

If some brothers or even sisters can read pro-dasam granth articles and expose them, please do so. It would be a great service for the Panth and Guru. Dasam Granth has to be taken care of in the near future or it might be too late. We have many great articles on this website against dasam granth but we need something new. Writing articles against the articles promoting dasam granth will do just that.

Great writers such as Gurcharan Singh Ji Jeonwala, Saravjit Singh Ji, Gursharan Singh Ji Kasel, Santokh Singh Ji, Jagtar Singh Ji, and others.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Slave of True Guru

Harmanjit Singh

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suirMdr isMG

Dear Sir,

I am fan of various articles written by S Gurcharan Singh Jionwala ji
on your web site.

But today when i was going thru http://www.sikhmarg.com/your-view.html

I found there may be some mistake in writing....

Any way, I may not have understood it. Please post the attached
document on your web site.

thanks,

Regards,
Surinder Singh

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ipafry vIr gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn jI,

"iswK Drm dI Kfqr jy … … aqy corF zfkUaF nUM vI imlxf pvy qF mYN smJdf hF ik koeI hrj nhI ikAuNik gurU nfnk sfihb vI qF swjx Twg, BUmIey cor afid kol jFdy hn. quhfnUM ikqy BulyKf nf pY jfvy ies krky mYN ieh ilK hI idaF ik mYN afpxy afp nUM gurU jI vrgI hsqI nfl myl nhI irhf."

"ikAuNik awj Auh afp qF ies sMsfr ivwc nhI hn ies krky AunHF df sunyhf koeI qF ienHF ivgVy lokF kol phuMcfeygf hI."

gurU sfihb jI awj vI hn, klH vI sn aqy sdf vfsqy rihxgy. agr gurU sfihb jI df sunyhf asI afpxy afp qwk hI phuMcf skIey qF sfnUM swc dy mfrg qy cwlx vfsqy koeI vI qfkq nhIM rok skdI.

glqI muafP krnf jI

kUkr

suirMdr isMG

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

ey[ zI[ aYWs[ mFgt jIE [[[[[[[[ isWDf rwKo jI.

awj qk qusIN sYNkVy lokf nUM cYilMj krdy afey ho. kI qusIN afp Aus vkq gurmuKF dI kqfr ivwc KVy sI? nhI. afip kucjI dosu n dyAU jfxf nfhI rKy] 1] awj qk qusIN afpxf nfm vI iksy hor gurmuK nUM nhI dwisaf. qhfzy jYsy lbVgwitaF nfl iewk styj qy bYT ky gwl krn nUM idl qF nhI krdf pr Pyr vI iswK Drm dI Kfqr jy [[[[[[ aqy corF zfkUaF nUM vI imlxf pvy qF mYN smJdf hF ik koeI hrj nhI ikAuNik gurU nfnk sfihb vI qF swjx Twg, BUmIey cor afid kol jFdy hn. quhfnUM ikqy BulyKf nf pY jfvy ies krky mYN ieh ilK hI idaF ik mYN afpxy afp nUM gurU jI vrgI hsqI nfl myl nhI irhf. ikAuNik awj Auh afp qF ies sMsfr ivwc nhI hn ies krky AunHF df sunyhf koeI qF ienHF ivgVy lokF kol phuMcfeygf hI.

"mUrK hovY so suxY mUrK ikaf kihxf.

mUrK ky ikaf lKx hY ikaf mUrK kf krxf.

mUrK Auh jy mugD hY ahMkfry mrxf.

eyq kmfxy sdf duKu duKu hI mih rihxf. "

(vfr rfmklI ó, pM: ùõó)

"iek nf suiD nf buiD akil sr akr kf ByAu nf lhMiq.

nfnk sy nr asil Kr ij ibn gux grB krMiq.

(vfr sfrMg ñ, pM: ñòôõ-ô ö)

mfgt jI ieh jo sunyhf qusIN sfnuM Byj rhy ho kdI afp piVaf hY? nhI. jy kdI qusIN bfby nfnk df ieh sunyhf pVH lYNdy qf qusIN jrUr bMdy bx jfxf sI.

afE! ey[ zI[ ays[ mFgt jIE, iewk mMc qy bYT ky gwlF krn df sfzf sunyhf kbUl kro jI.

ieh sfrI vfrqflfp mFgt jI nUM AunHF dI eI myl [[[[[ qy vI Byj rhy hF.

gurU pMQ dy dfs,

isMG sBf kYnyzf brYNptn,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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ig: sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

s[ mwKx isMG jI

iswkF iskdy iskdy afKr ‘isK mfrg’ skrIn qy prgt ho hI igaf!

eynf nf qVPfieaf kro jI.

CyqI CyqI skrIn qy afieaf kro jI.

ieko sfhy hI sfry prcy ivwc dI lMG igaf. BfvyN ik Aus jIv vFg, jo ik iKVI hoeI kpfh ivcdI lMGdf hoieaf kwCf kuVqf nhI svF skdf pr iPr vI kuwJ nf kuwJ qF ‘zmfk’ ivwc aiVaf rih hI jFdf hY nf!

pRisD ivdvfn qy ieiqhfskfr zf[ hrijMdfr isMG idlgIr jI ny dsm gurU jI dy ÈrDflU iswK, DrmI purÈ, sUrbIr XoDy, duÈt soDk, kuÈl jrnYl qy Xog pRbMDk, bfbf bMdf isMG bhfdr jI, bfry iswK qy iswK ivroDI ieiqhfskfrF vwloN sdIaF qoN pfey gey BulyiKaF nUM dUr krn df sPl Xqn kIqf hY. AuhnF dy ies lyK ivwc idqy pusqk hvfilaF qoN pqf lgdf hY ik AuhnF ny ies bfry pRfcIn qy nvIn bhuq sfry gRMQF nUM vfc ky hI ieh lyK iliKaf hY. hwl nUM smJx leI pRfcIn gRMQF qoN hI shfieqf lYxI pvygI ikAuNik asIN qF Aus smy EQy mOjUd nhI sI jo, "afK dmodr awKI izTf" vflf dfhvf kr skIey. kuwJ sfl pihlF iewk lyK ‘sicqr kOmI eykqf’ ivwc pRo[ suKidafl isMG horF df vI eysy hI Bfv df piVHaf sI qy hux zfktr idlgIr jI ny qF kfPI DuMd sfP kIqI hY.

AuhnF ny ies lyK ivwc Èbd ‘gurU df cwk’ vriqaf hY. Èfied ihMdI qoN pMjfbI df Pfslf vDfAux leI hI AuhnF ny Aucycy ‘kf’ nUM ‘df’ ivwc bdlxf munfsb smiJaf hovy. asIN ÈurU qoN hI aMimRqsr Èihr df pihlf nF ‘gurU kf cwk’ hI suxdy pVHdy af rhy hF.

ies lyK ivwc iewk qoN vD vfr iewk Èihr df nF ‘sfhirMd’ krky afieaf hY. ieh nF mY iksy Èihr df awj qwk nhI suixaf. ieh vI iKafl afieaf ik eyzf vwzf ivdvfn Êlq qF ilK nhI skdf; ËrUr hI ieh iksy Èihr df nF hI hovygf. iPr soc soc ky soc aMq eyQy hI phuMcI ik Èfied ‘sfhirMd’ qoN Bfv zfktr sfihb jI df ‘srhMd’ hI hovy!

‘gurbfxI Èbd vIcfr’ vfÜy lyK ivwc iewk pd (lÌË) ‘gujrY’ Cipaf hY. asl ivwc iesdf sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivwc shI rUp ‘gudrY’ hY ‘gujrY’ nhI. arQ BfvyN dohF pdF df iewk hI hovy. iPr vI sfnUM gurbfxI df ilKqI srUp ijAuN df iqAuN brkrfr rwKx df Xqn krdy rihxf cfhIdf hY.

ivdvfnF dy crnF dI DUV

sMqoK isMG

(gurbfxI dI glqI vwl iDafn idvfAux leI ÈkrIaf. ieh myry koloN PONt knvrtr qoN bfad gol ijhy cwkr TIk krdy qoN hoeI sI, TIk kr idwqI geI hY. zf: idlgIr dy lyKF ivc lgF mfqrF dIaF glqIaF nfm mfqr ikqy hI koeI huMdI hY ies leI ‘sfhirMd’ nUM asIN not qF kIqf sI pr koeI vI qbdIlI nhIN kIqI. ies bfry hor jfxkfrI qF Auh KLd afp hI dy skdy hn-sMpfdk)

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zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr

dilq ÈMBUk sB qoN pihlf ÈhId sI - dilqF nUM dIvflI vfly idn nUM ÈMBUk df ÈhIdI idn vjoN mnfAuxf cfhIdf hY

cMzIgVH - iswK ieiqhfskfr zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr ny ikhf hY ik jy ‘rfmfiex’ iewk swcI khfxI hY qF dunIaF df sB qoN pihlf ÈhId ÈMBUk sI ijs nUM rfm ny dilq hox kfrn Aus dy kMnF ivwc iswkf Zfl ky ÈhId kr idwqf sI. AunHF ikhf ik mYN rfmfiex nUM iewk kfiv-nfvl mMndf hF. ieh ivcfr isrÌ myry hI nhIN blik mohn dfs krm cMd gFDI (ijs nUM ihMdU mhfqmf gFDI) kihMdy hn, zf rfDfikRÈnn (Bfrq dy sfbkf rfÈtrpqI), pRiswD ieiqhfskfr romIlf Qfpr qy hor drjnF ihMdU (ÊYr ihMdU nhIN) ivdvfnF qy ieiqhfskfrF dy vI hn. pr jy kuwJ mUlvfdI ihMdU rfmfiex `qy akIdf rKdy hn qF AunHF nUM mubfirk hY. mYN AunHF dIaF BfvnfvF dI kdr krdf hF. hF, rfmfiex nUM swc mMnx df mqlb ieh ËrUr inkldf hY ik rfm ny dilq ÈMBUk nUM isrÌ ies vfsqy kql krvf idwqf sI ik Aus ny ‘Drm’ dI gwl sux leI sI. ies df mqlb qF iehI inkldf hY ik Aus ‘rfm rfj’ ivwc dilqF df koeI Dfrimk hwk nhIN sI qy ÈMBUk nUM Drm df hwk mMgx kr ky ÈhId kIqf igaf sI.

dilqF df ÌrË hY ik Auh dIvflI df idn irÈI ÈMBUk dy ‘ÈhIdI idn’ vjoN mnfieaf krn qy ies idn GrF ivwc hnyrf rK ky BuwKy rih ky ‘dilq Drm’ ijhVf ik ‘afid Drm’ sI, muqfibk jvn ijAUx df pRx kiraf krn. AunHF df dIvflI dy idn dIvy jgfAuxf, ptfky clfAuxf qy ÉuÈIaF mnfAuxf dilq ÈhId nfl byvÌfeI hY.

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

sR[ ey[ zI[ aYWs[ mFgt jIE,

qusIN lokF nUM JUTy ilKdy ho pr ho qusIN afp. gurbfxI dI pMgqI hY. jYsf syvY qYso hoie] 4] {pMnf 223} qusIN iksy mnuwK nUM ijs qrHF dI nËr nfl vyKdy ho quhfnUM Auh lok Aus qrHF dy hI idKfeI idMdy hn. ikAuNik qusIN afp mfVI buDI vfly ivky hoey lok ho ies krky qusIN afpxf afp lukfAux leI ieh ickV dUsiraF qy AuCflxf jfieË smJdy ho. ieh srkfrI cfl huMdI hY pr hY ieh nfjfieË.

mYN, gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf, isMG sBf ieMtrnYÈnl kYnyzf brYNptn grup df pRDfn hF qy brYNptn/ EntYrIE df vfsI hF. myrf nMbr hY 716 536 2346[ ikAuNik mYN trwk clfAuNdf hF ies krky amrIkn nMbr ilaf hY. qusIN koeI rsId pYdf kro jo ieh sfbq krdI hovy ik brYNptn grup ny sR[ hrdyv isMG Èyrigl nUM aih rkm dy ky Aus koloN isMG sBf KrIdI hY. nhI qF afpxf sfrf bkvfs afpxy kol rwKo. kfie ry bkbfdu lfieE] {pMnf 718} Bgq nfmdyv jI mUrK pMizq nUM AupdyÈ idMdy hn ik ikAuN bkvfs kr irhf hYN.

quhfnUM isMG sBf iksy koloN KrIdx dI loV nhI qusIN vYnkUvr ivwc sfzf cYptr Kolxf cfhuMdy ho qF bVI KuÈI nfl KolH skdy ho bÈrqy ik kMm quhfnUM isMG sBf dy vIcfrF muqfbk krnf hovygf.

qusIN sfnUM fake people ilKdy ho. asIN afpxI sfrI ijMdgI df sfrf iksf ik asIN ikhVy ikhVy smyN ikhVy ikhVy mulk ivwc sI, kdoN qy ikhVy kflË ivwc pVHfeI kIqI dsvIN ikhVy skUl ivcoN kIqI qy asl jwdI-puCqI ipMz ikhVf hY quhfzy nfl iewk styj qy bYT ky lokF nUM kYmry dy sfhmxy dwsx nUM iqafr hF. pr gurÈrnjIq isMG lFbf, jo afÈU qoÈ dI qrHF iewk ibhfrI bfbU hY, puwCx qy vI Aus ny kdI ienHF kuwJ svflF df jvfb nhI idwqf ik kOx hY jo lFby nUM ibhfr ivcoN Kuwg ky pMjfb dI DrqI qy iswK Drm dIaF nIhF ivwc qyl pfAux leI lf irhf hY, lFby df aslI nfm kI hY, dsvIN iesny ikhVy skUl ivcoN kIqI sI qy LLB ikQoN? jy aslI lokF kol iesdf jvfb hovy qf ilK Byjx.

awj ieMtrnYt jf jmfnf hY, ies leI asIN qhfnUM iswK mfrg qy ivcfr krn df Kuwlf swdf idwqf hY. jy afp jI ilwKqI rUp ivwc ivcfr krn dI smrwQf nhIN rwKdy qF qusIN ieh dwso ik iks Èihr, vYnkUvr jF torFto, ivwc kYmrf bwD vIcfrF krnIaF cfhuMdy ho qFik lokF nUM scfeI qoN jfxI krvfieaf jf sky. asIN vYnkUvr vI afAux leI iqafr hF qy quhfnUM sfzf ds mnuwKF dy rihx qy Kfx-pIx df pRbMD krnf hovygf. jy qusIN torFto afAuxf cfhuMdy ho qF asIN quhfzy Kfx-pIx qy rihx-sihx df pRbMD krFgy. qhfnUM jo mnËUr hovy sfnUM www.sikhmarg.com qy dws dyxf jI.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

isMG sBf ieMtrnYÈnl

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gopfl isMG

Respected S. Makhan Singh
Waahguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waahguru Ji Ki Fateh
Thanks for keeping the Website up with all great articles. I hope people learn from them and most important they try to act on.
I have question if any one of the readers and scholars can help.
The question is about Divali which is on November 9. Most of the Gurdwaras and sikh places celebrate it. I used to study at home that Sikhs celebrate because Guru Hargobind Sahib ji were released from Gwaliar KIla (I will say from Jahangir's Prison).
I also read some where the dates do not match with the Divali dates. neither release date nor reaching Amaritsar.
Could any one please give me some solid information, either way.
May God help us all to understand His Will and His Word. and help us to be a Good Sikh.
Thanks
Gopal Singh
(gopfl isMG jI, myrI socxI muqfbk sLfied qusIN 'isWK mfrg' dy sB qoN purfxy pfTk ho. jF qF qusIN sfry lyK iDafn nfl pVHdy nhIN aqy jF iPr quhfnUM piVHaf ivsr jFdf hY. ikrpf krky ipRM: igafnI surjIq isMG aqy zf: idlgIr dy ipCly lyKF ivcoN dIvflI bfry do lyK pVHn dI Kycl kro jI-sMpfdk)

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avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI

avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI

gurcrnjIq isMG lFbf jI! asIN afp jI nUM "iswK mfrg zft kfm" rfhIN dsm gRMQ bfry ivcfr-ivtfdrf krn leI keI icwTIaF ilK cuwky hF pr afp jI ny iksy df vI jvfb nhIN idwqf. jy kr afp jI nUM ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ qoN koeI lrËk hY qF asIN afp jI dI sfeIt ‘sMq ispfhI’, bfbf ivrsf isMG dI sfeIt jF hor iksy dsm gRMQ dy hmfieqI dI sfeIt qy afAux leI iqafr hF. jo asIN svfl krFgy qF quhfzy jvfb gurbfxI dy aDfr qy aqy tU dI poafieMt hoxy cfhIdy hn. jy kr afp jI aqy quhfzy sihXogI, aMqrrfÈtrI pwDr `qy ilKqI rUp ivwc ivcfr-ivtfdrf krn dI smwrQf nhI rKdy qF iswKI iKlfP gumrfh kun pRcfr aqy aKOqI dsm gRMQ dI vkflq krky dsvyN gurU nfnk dI byieËqI krnI bMd kro jI! afp jI df bhuq bhuq DMnvfd hovygf. Xfd rwKo iswKF df gurU "sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI" hY.

sR[ kfrj isMG sMDU iPlfzYlPIaf, sR[ srbjIq isMG sYkrfmYNto, sR[ qrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI), sR gurcrn isMG ijAuxvflf (knyzf), ig[ hrijMdr isMG luiDafxf (kYnyzf), ig[ aMimRqpfl isMG sYlmF (USA) pRo[ mwKx isMG sYkrfmYNto, zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl sYnhojy, ipRMsIpl sR[ jsbIr isMG ropV, BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy bIbI hrismrq kOr Éflsf (USA).

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bI[ aYWs[ iZwloN aYzvokyt

I hereby state in the name of God

B.S.Dhillon Advocate

On the Election Day during the last Assembly elections, I was coming to Chandigarh by car from my village. In the way I was crossing an assembly segment of my known candidate. The younger brother of the candidate was my college mate. He was in charge of election compaign.Due to the fear of election commission, the candidates and their supporters were moving in the cars without flags and banners. It was about evening when I reached that city. The sun was setting in the west and it seemed as if it was hiding and was crying after having seen the way Indian elections were being held. As it was an election day so the roads were not busy, only the vehicles concerned with elections were plying.

I had enough time to reach home at Chandigarh so I turned towards election office to meet my friend. They were three or four persons sitting there. Major Singh was giving instructions to one person and all other workers were busy in taking the maximum voters to polling booths on their vehicles. They all were happy. Major Singh told me that as per reports from the field our candidate was winning and the election was going smoothly and peacefully. But they don’t want to take any risk.

We hardly had finished our tea when there came a worker from the field who told us breathlessly that about 200-250 voters of Bauria caste were sitting together in the Dharmshala (a rest house for marriage parties) and not going to polling booth. They were waiting for bribe. I accompanied my friend in the car and started towards the polling booth. In the way he was telling me, although "we will definitely win, but 200-250 votes are not a small counting. So we will not take any risk. After winning, our brother will become minister too. He has his direct links with high Command". I was saying ‘yes’, infect I was not interested at all and I wanted to rest, in the office but he was forcing me to accompany him on the broken road, while I was counting the luxuries of the office where we were having tea a couple of minutes before.

The car stopped before the ‘Dharmshala’ gate. Some people were sitting on uncovered cots. They shake hands with us. Their leader was a village panch.The tea was served in brass glasses. They had about fifty houses in the village. They wanted to buy some utensils and ‘tents’ for the Dharmshala and if we pay for all that then they were ready to vote collectively for our candidate. The politicians themselves had started this custom in earlier elections to fulfill the needs of the villagers, such as paying money for dharmshalas, utensils, tents etc to villagers in lieu of that they used to vote collectively for the concerned candidate.

Major Singh made calculations like a businessman. Total expenses for all this was about twenty to twenty five thousands. So cost of one vote was about one hundred Rupees. The rate of last night was three hundred rupees per vote. If we had to pay for every voter individually then we would have to spend three times more. Major Singh was thinking that, this bargaining is not bad after all. He was talking with sympathy to show that this was a genuine demand. After all Brats stay in the Dharmshala and Daughters, sisters of all are common. He immediately said yes and offered money. The crowd was murmuring that what ever is offered today should be received, after elections no one will bother them. It was happening with them since independence. Night is over talk is over.

Now it was a problem of money. Major Singh had one bundle of notes only. No time was left to go for taking money from office. So rest amount of twelve thousands was to be paid next day. But under the circumstances no one was ready to trust. The workers of apposite party were moving nearby. At last both the parties agreed to swear in the name of god.

Major Singh dictated the car driver to bring Gutka (a small book) from the car. He brought gutka wrapped in silky handkerchief. First the leaders of Baurian took oath by keeping their hands on gutka. Then it was our turn. Major Singh asked me to take oath as it was same thing. I gave him a bad look. Why he took me along with him only to swear? I did not want to take oath. It was neither my nature nor responsibility. Generally common man avoids taking oath. But my refusal would have given wrong signal to voters. So I decided to take oath.

Thereafter I swore in the name of God by keeping my hand on gutka, that ‘our candidate wins or looses we will definitely pay the remaining amount’. But my writer mind was trembling. So like Yudhishtra in the Kurukshetra I murmured in the mouth, "Dear god I am not responsible". Thereafter we started back.

In the way I was silent and abusing myself for this swearing and at the same time was consoling myself saying, all the elected candidates take oath during their election petitions in the courts that "My statement is in the name of God" (Jo kuch kahanga dharma nal such kahanga) when all know no one can win a case on true statement. It is only a legal formality. So I should not fear.

Major Singh and car driver were talking that all these voters will not vote for us, because some voters wanted to take money individually not for joint purpose. Major Singh said, "does not matter if half of them caste vote it was sufficient, we too will not pay them the remaining amount. I became angry and tried to open the door, asked them to stop the car. I said. "I knew it from the very beginning. You get votes and asked me to swear freely".

The circumstances were tense. Major Singh caught my arm and directed the driver not to stop the car. Then he asked driver to give him gutka.he opened the silky hander kerchief and shown me the book. It was not gutka.it was a small size oxford dictionary for children. (The writer is an Advocate in Punjab & Haryana High Court)  

B. S. Dhillon

Advocate

Chandigarh-160047 ( INDIA)

Mobile: India 9988091463,

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ajIq isMG sYxI

ajoky Bfrq ivwc swc nUM smripq iewk iemfndfr puils aÌsr dI ijAUNdI jfgdI imsfl hY jsvIr isMG - afeI pI aYs.

afpxy PrË ƒ smripq iewk iemfndfr puils aÌsr ƒ iknHF-iknHF aOkVF df sfhmxf krnf pYNdf hY aqy iks pRkfr Auh ienHF aOkVF ƒ iKVy mwQy kbUl krdy hoey afpxy PrË ƒ afpxf iemfn smJ ky afpxy vwloN imwQy hoey rfh qoN iQVkdf nhIN. ies dI iËMdf imsfl hY AuWqr pRdyÈ ivwc qfienfq afeIpIaYs aiDkfrI jsvIr isMG. AuWqr pRdyÈ ivwc srkfr mulfiem isMG Xfdv dI hY qy jF iPr mfieafvqI dI. ies nfl jsvIr isMG vrgy puils aiDkfrIaF ƒ Gwt hI Prk pYNdf hY. 40 sflf jsvIr isMG kuafrf hY.

ÈUgr dy rogI jsvIr isMG ƒ hux qwk imrgI dy do jfnlyvf dOry vI pY cuwky hn. pr ienHF muÈiklF awgy vI jsvIr isMG ny hfr nhIN mMnI hY. Aus bfry ieh rOck jfxkfrI 5 akqUbr 2007 dy ihMdosqfn tfeImË ivwc XÈvMq rfj dy ilKy iewk lyK ivwc idwqI geI hY. dwisaf igaf ik jsvIr isMG 15 sfl dI puils srivs ipwCoN vI 17 hËfr rupey mhInf kmfAuNdf hY aqy hux jf ky Aus ƒ iewk blyro gwzI nsIb hoeI hY, ijs ƒ Auh Kud clfAuNdf hY. afeIpIaYs aiDkfrI vjoN qfienfq hox qoN bfad Auh kfPI sflF qwk motrsfeIkl `qy hI dÌqr jFdf irhf. Aus df bfzIgfrz motr sfeIkl dy ipwCy bYTdf sI. AuWqr pRdyÈ ivwc kMm kridaF keI aijhy mOky vI afey jdoN jsvIr isMG dI iemfndfrI ny Aus dI jfn qwk lY lYxI sI. Aus ƒ keI vfr nOkrI qoN kwZy jfx qwk dI koiÈÈ vI kIqI geI. jsvIr isMG ƒ keI ivBfgI kysF df sfhmxf krnf pY irhf hY.

ienHF kysF dI pYrvfeI leI jsvIr isMG ƒ pMjfb ivwc afpxI ËmIn qwk vycxI peI. AuWqr pRdyÈ BfvyN KUMKfr iksm dy aprfDIaF leI mÈhUr hY, ijwQy puils dy vwzy-vwzy aÌsr vI ienHF df pfxI Brdy hn, pr jsvIr ny bhfdrI nfl ienHF aprfDIaF df mukfblf kIqf aqy keI aprfDI ies dy jfn dy duÈmx bxI bYTy hn. aijhf hI iewk ikwsf ibafn kIqf igaf hY, jdoN jsvIr isMG dI prqfpgVH dy aYspI vjoN inXukqI hoeI, qF AuWQy iewk aijhy guMzy df rfj cldf sI, jo vwzy kfrF dy kfPly nfl ielfky ivcoN inkldf sI aqy iksy vI aiDkfrI dI Aus kfr ƒ hwQ dyx qwk dI ihMmq nhIN sI huMdI, pr jsvIr isMG ny aprfD dI dunIaF dy ies byqfj bfdÈfh ƒ cuxOqI dyx df mn bxf ilaf aqy afpxy aDIn 50 puils krmIaF ƒ krfty qwk dI tryinMg vI Kud hI idwqI aqy iewk idn ies aprfDI dy kfPly ƒ Gyr ky Aus `qy ijwq Piqh kIqI, pr ieh aprfDI nypfl Bwj igaf aqy hux jsvIr isMG df kwtV duÈmx bx igaf hY.

jsvIr isMG ƒ keI vfr kysF dy islisly ivwc adflq ivwc pyÈ hoxf ipaf. aijhy hI mOky Aus `qy aprfDIaF ny hmlf bol idwqf. jsvIr isMG ienHF df dlyrI nfl mukfblf krdf hoieaf bc inkilaf. iewQoN qwk ik Aus dI kmIË ies hwQopfeI ivwc lIro-lIr ho geI sI. iksy vI isafsI afgU leI jsvIr isMG ƒ afpxy hlky ivwc inXukq krvfAuxf Aus afgU dI pihlI psMd huMdf hY, ikAuNik AuWqr pRdyÈ ivwc jsvIr isMG dI aijhI Bwl bx geI hY ik Auh vwzy qoN vwzy aprfDI sfhmxy eIn nhIN mMndf aqy afpxI jfn `qy Kyz ky vI Aus ƒ kfbU krdf hY. myrT dy bdnfm iqafgI gYNg ƒ Kqm krn df ishrf jsvIr isMG isr hI bMinaf jFdf hY.

jsvIr isMG bVf KuÈ ho ky dwsdf hY ik isafsI-aprfiDk gTjoV dy pRBfv hyT Aus ƒ ajy qwk koeI cMgI puËIÈn `qy qfienfq nhIN kIqf igaf. Auh dwsdf hY ik koeI vI puils aiDkfrI Aus df sfhmxf krnf nhIN cfhuMdf, ikAuNik Aus dI iemfndfrI awgy sfry iPwky pY jFdy hn. iesy kfrn Auh bVy mfx nfl ieh gwl kihMdf hY ik koeI vI puils aiDkfrI myrf sInIar bxn qoN vI zrdf hY. jsvIr `qy ies smyN 16 ivBfgI ienkuafierIaF cwl rhIaF hn. jsvIr dwsdf hY ik BfvyN Auh kdy vI zoldf nhIN, pr ienHF ienkuafierIaF ny Aus ƒ mfnisk, ijsmfnI aqy afriQk pwKoN kmËor kIqf hY. jsvIr dy ipCokV bfry dwisaf igaf hY ik Auh pMjfb dy huiÈafrpur iËlHy df rihx vflf hY. Aus df ipqf POj ivwc hvldfr sI. srkfrI kflj tFzf AuVmuV iËlHf huiÈafrpur qoN bI aYs sI Bfg pihlf (nfn mYzIkl) ivwc pfs krn AuprMq jsvIr isMG nUM sfl 1987 ivwc cMzIgVH dy pMjfb ieMjInIairMg kflj ivwc dfKlf iml igaf sI, ijwQoN isvl ieMjInIairMg ivwc izgrI krn qoN bfad jsvIr isMG ny afpxy pihly hI Xqn ivwc afeIpIaYs dI pRIiKaf pfs kr leI sI. jsvIr isMG dI iewk ibrD mF hY, jo Aus kol rihMdI hY. jsvIr isMG iewk bhuq hI awCf qblfvfdk vI hY.

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srvjIq isMG

gurbcn isMG jI sfzy kuwJ sLMky dUr kro

siqkfr Xog sMpfdk jI,

gurbcn isMG (cyarmYn, goibMd sdn XU[ aYs[ ey[) dy ilKy do lyK ‘AudfsIn qy iswK mwq’ aqy dsm gRMQ dI kQf dy aDfr qy ‘min jIqY jgu jIqu’ pVHy. ivdvfn swjx jI dy dsm gRMQ bfry lyK pihlF vI pVHy hn aqy keI pwqr vI ilKy hn pr iehnf ny kdy vI jbfb dyx dI Kycl nhI kIqI. hux mY ‘Kbrnfmf’ dy mfiDam rfhIN afpxy ÈMky ies afs nfl ilK irhF hF ik ies vfrI ieh swjx mYnUM inrfÈ nhI krngy.

　gurbcn isMG jI, afp jI ny afpxy lyK ‘AudfsIn qy iswK mwq’ ivwc iliKaf hY: ‘gurU hir goibMd sfihb jI jd irhf ho ky bfbf jI df DMnvfd krn vfsqy bfbf jI nUM imly qF AunHF ny afpxy vwzy sfihbËfdy bfbf guridqf jI nUM bfbf jI dy cVHf idqf sI.’ mhfnkoÈ ivwc bfbf guridqf jI dI jnm qrIk kwqk sudI 15 sMmq 1670 drj kIqI hoeI hY. aqy bfbf sRI cMd dI mOq dI qrIK 15 awsu 1669 hY. myrf svfl ieh hY ik sRI cMd dI mOq qo 13 mhIny mgro jnm lYx vflf bfbf guridqf jI sRI cMd df cylf ikvy bx skdf hY?

　goibMd sdn vwloN bfbf sRI cMd jI vfry CfpI geI ikqfb, ‘The Miraculous Life of Baba Siri Chand ji’ ivwc iewk sfKI aqy qsvIr hY (ijs df afp jI ny afpxy lyK ivwc ijkr nhI kIqf) One day brother Lakshmi Chand ji had been hunting. Babaji told him it was a sin to kill innocent animals and that he would have to give account in God’s court. Hearing this Baba Lakshmi Chand took his entire household, even the dog, mounted his horse and rode toward Heaven. Baba Siri Chand ji realized that his brother’s baby Dharm Chand was the last descendent of Guru Nanak Dev ji. If the baby left too there would be no one to carry on Guru ji’s blood line. So Baba Siri Chand ji stretched out his arm into the sky, lifted the baby from his brother’s lap, brought him back and raised him as his own son.

　pr ies sfKI ivwc bfbf sRI cMd jI dI bFh dI lMbfeI df koeI ijkr nhI kIqf igaf. Byvy vfly mfn isMG dI iewk typ ivwc vI mY ieh sfKI suxI sI ijs ivwc Aus ny ikhf sI ‘sfD sMgq jI, bfbf sRI cMd jI ny sFZy igafrf hjfr Xojn lMbI bFh krky bfbf Drm cMd jI nUM GoVy qo Auqfr ilaf sI" (11500 koh = 57500 mIl, lwg-Bwg 92, 500 iklo mItr)

　gurbcn isMG jI, kI afp jI AupRokq qrIKF aqy bFh dI lMbfeI nfl sihmwq ho? jy nhI qF afpxI dlIl ilK ByjxI jI qF jo ies ivÈy qy AusfrU crcf kIqI jf sky.

afp dy pwqr dI AuzIk ivwc

srvjIq isMG

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

'AudfsIn qy iswK mwq' 'dIn dunI df itwkf' ilKfrI pRo[ gurbcn isMG sYrfikAUË vfly df iswK mwq `qy kuhfVy nfl vfr, nUM kuwJ svfl

1[ mhfn koÈ dy pMnf 416 muqfbk bfbf guridwqf jI kqk sudI 15 sMmq 1670 nUM pYdf hoey aqy mhfn kos dy pMnf 251 muqfbk sRI cMd 15 awsU 1699 mr gey. iswK svrg nhI isDfrdy. ikAuNik iswKF nUM svrg dI lflsf vI nhI qy iswKI muqfbk koeI ikDry svrg hY hI nhI. jy svrg hY qF Auh sfDsMgq ivwc hY ijQy swcy guxF dI vIcfr kIqI jf rhI huMdI hY nf ik iksy aKoqI sMq dy goizaF kol. pRo[ grubcn isMG jI ieh dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI ik qusIN ienHF iQqF nUM glq kr skdy ho? nhI. qusIN vI mwKI qy mwKI mfr ky ipRMsIplF qy vfeIcFslrF dI qrHF iswK kOm nuM kurfhy pfx df Tykf ilaf hoieaf hY.

2[ sfnUM ieh vI pqf hY ik qusIN jlMDr ivwc ajIq afid aKbfrF ivwc pwqrkfrI df kMm krdy sI qy AudoN qusIN iksy iksm dI pI[ aYc[ zI[ nhI kIqI hoeI sI. quhfzy hI iksy Brosy Xog imqr ny ies gwl dI puÈtI kIqI hY ik quhfzy kol pRoPYsrI dI izrgI nhI. kI ieh JUT hY?

3[ gurU nfnk sfihb dy puqrF ny gurU nfnk sfihb dy hukmF dI pflxf nf krky gurU mwq df ivroD kIqf. iks iks kfrx krky dUsry, qIsry qy CyvyN gurU ny afpxy puqrF nUM afpxy ivroDI vIcfrDfrf vfly mnuwK nUM afpxI sMqfn df hwQ PvfAuxf sI?

puqIN kOl n pfilaf mn Koty afkI nisafrf] (1-38-4) BfeI gurdfs ies gwl dI puÈtI krdy hn.

4[ gurU nfnk sfihb dI vIcfrDfrf anusfr iksy gurU pIr ny afpxI ibMdI sMqfn nUM koeI mhwqqf nhI idwqI. jo gurU dI mwq dy DfrnI hn Eh hI gurU dI ibMdI sMqfn hn. awj qusIN bfr bfr ikAuN sRI cMd nUM sfzy gl mVHn dI rwt lfeI hoeI hY? iswKF kdI sRI cMd df jnm purb nhI sI mnfieaf pr idwlHI vfly bfby ny ieh kMm ÈurU krky iswKF ivwc AudfsI mwq dI mhwqqf vDfAux df purjor kMm kIqf hY qFik iswKF nUM iswKI nfloN qoiVaf jf sky. jo inMdx Xog hY.

4[ bRhmigafnI kAu Kojih mhysur] nfnk bRhmigafnI afip prmysur] 6] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI kI giq bRhmigafnI jfnY] pRo[ gurbcn isMG jI bRhmigafnI nUM qF bRhmigafnI hI pCfx skdf hY. ieh dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI ik kI qusIN vI bRhmigafnI hI ho jF nhI? bRhmigafnI kf aMqu n pfru] nfnk bRhmigafnI kAu sdf nmskfru] 7] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI sB isRsit kf krqf] bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf] bRhmigafnI mukiq jugiq jIa kf dfqf] bRhmigafnI pUrn purKu ibDfqf] bRhmigafnI anfQ kf nfQu] bRhmigafnI kf sB AUpir hfQu] bRhmigafnI kf sgl akfru] bRhmigafnI afip inrMkfru] bRhmigafnI kI soBf bRhmigafnI bnI] nfnk bRhmigafnI srb kf DnI] 8] 8] {pMnf 273-274} Aupr ilKI bfxI muqfbk qF sRI cMd nUM sfrI dunIaf df krqf hoxf cfhIdf hY pr AunHF ny qF iewk vI bwcf pYdf nhI kIqf. gurbfxI muqfbk koeI mnuwK bfl jqI vI nhI ho skdf ikAuNik vIrj qF jvfnI ivwc supny ivwc hI igr jFdf hY. qy bfxI ieh vI ilKdI hY ik jy kr kdy iksy ivDI krky vIrj rok hI ilaf jfvy qf prmgq Kusry nUM imlxI cfhIdI hY ikAuNik Kusry df vIrj igrdf hI nhI. ibMdu rfiK jO qrIaY BfeI] KusrY ikAu n prm giq pfeI] 3] khu kbIr sunhu nr BfeI] rfm nfm ibnu ikin giq pfeI] 4] 4] {pMnf 324} gwl vIrj nUM rok ky qrx dI nhI sgoN swc nfl juV ky qrx dI hY. vIrj df igrxf kudrqI hY qy gurU sfihbfn ny iksy vI kudrqI inXm dI AulMGxf nhI kIqI. ies krky sfry gurU sfihbfn, jo Aumr muqfbk Xog sn, ivafhy hoey sn. ies krky hI gurU nfnk sfihb aglf PYslf krdy hn. jqn krY ibMdu ikvY n rhfeI] mnUaf zolY nrky pfeI] jm puir bfDo lhY sjfeI] ibnu nfvY jIAu jil bil jfeI] 5] pMnf 906]

5[’dIn dunI kf itkf’ ivwc qusIN bfbf jI nUM gurU koloN vr duaf rhy ho. gurbfxI ivcoN pMj pRmfx dy ky iswD kro ky gurbfxI vr/srfp mMndI hY? jF iPr kUV df pRcfr bMd kro jI. awj qk qusIN iksy vI svfl df jvfb nhI idwqf. pr iPr vI.

Auqr dI AuzIk ivc,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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gurÈrn isMG ksyl

siqkfr Xog spfdk jIE,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

afp jI dI vYb sfeIt ‘iswK mfrg’ qy sR[ gurpRIq isMG smrf hurF dI icwTI lwgI sI, ijs ivwc AunHF sR[ hrmMdr isMG hurF qoN ‘dsm gRMQ’ ivwcoN kuwJ svfl puwCy sn. pfTk AunHF svflF dy jvfb jfxn leI Auqfvly hn; pr sR[ hrmMdr isMG hurF dI 27 akqUbr vflI lwgI icwTI ivwc AunHF ny sR[ gurpRIq isMG smrf dy iksy vI svfl df jvfb nhIN idqf. afs krdy hF ik sR[ sfihb sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI dy hvfly dy ky CyqI hI AunHF svflF dy jvfb dyxgy.

siqkfr sihq,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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hrmMdr isMG

Dear Editor!

I feel sorry for Gurpreet Sumra. He seems to be inflicted with hatred which is quite evident from his writing.

Exchange of ideas is feasible with a person who seems to be receptive. Not with a frustrated person who can only use foul language.

If arguments could make a person believer, Richard Dawkins would have been a priest.

Gurpreet should be happy in what he believes...Good luck to him!

One suggestion to him. He should read Hum Hindu Nahin and he will get many answers to his questions!

Gurfateh!

Harmandar Singh

UK

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avqfr isMG imÈnrI

cirqRo pKXfn dÈmyÈ bfxI nhI

isMG sfihbfn df Ìqvf: cUMik pMQ ivwc sfry "dsm gRMQ" nUM gurU jI dI ikRq mMnx aqy n mMnx vfly, do vIcfrF dy lok hn. ies leI smyN smyN aYsy ÈMky ÈRo: gu: pRbMDk kmytI, aMimRqsr, aQvf Aus vloN inwXq Dfrimk slfhkfr kmytI pfs sfmfDfn leI afAuNdy rihMdy hn. iewk vfr imqI 6[ 7[ 73 nUM cMzIgV "rfj krygf Éflsf" aqy "cirqRo pKXfn" vfry puwC puwjI. jQydfr sRI akfl qÉq sfihb aqy sRI drbfr sfihb, sRI aMimRqsr dy hYz gRMQI sfihbfn ny iehnF puwCF df jo AuWqr idwqf, Aus dI nkl hyTF hfËr hY:-

ÃÄvfihhurU jI kI Ìqh]

dÌqr-ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI,

qyjf isMG smuMdrI hfl, sRI aMimRqsr nM: 36672 3/4-8-73,

sR: sMqoK isMG　kftyj, loar mfl, ksfAulI (ih: pR)

pRXojn: Dfrimk puC sbMDI　

sRI mfn jI, afp jI dI pwqrkf imqI 6-7-73 dy sbMD ivwc isMG sfihbfn, sRI drbfr sfihb aqy jQydfr sfihb sRI akfl qÉq sfihb, sRIaMimRqsr jI dI rfey hyT ilKy anusfr afp jI nUM ByjI jFdI hY:-　1[ "rfj krygf Kflsf" jo sRI akfl qÉq sfihb aqy hor gurduafiraF ivwc piVHaf jFdf hY, ieh gurmiq dy anukUl hY, ikAuNik dohry pVHny pMQk ÌYslf hY. ies ÌYsly qy ÈMkf nhIN krnI cfhIdI. 2[ "cirqRo pKXfn" jo dsm gRMQ ivwc hn, ieh "dÈmyÈ bfxI" nhIN. ieh purfqn ihMdU imiQhfsk sfKIaF df Auqfrf hY. ÈuB icMqk,

shI-mIq skwqr(gurbÉÈ isMG) Drm pRcfr kmytI, ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI sRI aMimRqsr.

AupRokq pwqr ivwc sRomxI kmytI vloN hI cirqRo pKXfn nUM dÈmyÈ bfxI nhIN mMinaF qF sR lFbf jI nUM iks ny aiDkfr idwqf hY ik Auh ies inrlwj qy kMjr kivqf nUM gurbfxI kihx jo gurU jI nUM ivBcfrI, ivkfrI aqy afcrx qoN igry hoey lokF dy gMdy cirqRF df ilKfrI sfbq kry.

avqfr isMG imÈnrI-jnrl skwqr gurU gRMQ pRcfr imÈn afP USA

510-432-5827

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gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor,

Without any delay, I would like to start the dialogue with Harmander Singh as it is quite evident from his mail that he is not suffering from constipation of ideas.

I also request him to bring Sant Sipahi Lamba on Sikhmarg along with Dalip Singh to answer questions of ignorant people like me.

1)Is Bachhitar Natak autobiogarphy of Guru Gobind Singh?

2)Did Guru Tegh Bahadur did tapasya as a result of which Guru Gobind Singh was born?

3)Are the cheap erotic compositions also called "Kanjar Kavita" written by Guru Gobind Singh?

4)What is the source of Ram Avtar in Kanjar Kavita also called Dasam Granth by its followers?

I will be waiting for these answers before proceeding further.
I would also like to thank Harmander Singh who has taken the time and initiative at the behest of Lamba to solve my ignorant queries.

Please be specific and answer serialwise as asked, and if Lamba replies directly in your place it would be great.

"Sarb Kaal hai Pita Apara Devi Kalka Maat Humara" (Bachittar Natak/so called Autobiography of Guru Gobind Singh)

Jai Mahakaal!!!

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mihMdr isMG

Veer Navneet Singh Ji,

Bulao Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa ||
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ||

I read your letter. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. Sikhmarg is great website. Thanks for bringing that issue here. I am one of you. I feel the same. I am in America at the moment but I am from Ferozepur originally. To some extent we Sikhs are responsible for what media is showing about us.

You know what happened at the weddings these days. Tayajis and Chachajis, you will always find them drunk. Jijajis and Massarjis will always be the noisy ones. They would drink like pigs and then behave like 5 years old. We may not think but people don't take this in good spirit.

It's been going on-and-on from long time. Those movie makers pick subjects and characters from the society. So they show what they see in gatherings like that. Masarji will always make fool out of himself. Jijaji would be so drunk and be falling here and there. His turban would come off and he would threat to leave the wedding if he is not served more alcohol. You know what I am talking about?

And weddings are not the only gatherings where you witness these scenes, it happens regularly.

Word 'Sardarji' to call Sikhs, is not used because of these today's modern Sikhs. It was due to the respect people had for our Gurus, for our Shaheeds, for Sikh farmers and Sikh sportsmen.

What we can do to change it a little bit is that, we should carry ourselves like really Sikhs. We should be very polite when we speak, we should show honesty in anything we do, we should always obey traffic rules, we should always be respectful to females, we should always behave at social events, and we can do much more to change ourselves and then media would take notice of that.

I do agree that some of the stuff that is being telecasted on TV these days is to show Sikhs are BEWKOOF people. But there is not much you can do about it. What you can do is to change yourself from good to better and better to best.

Now let me say a little bit about girls these days. According to my experience, girls say they want to marry clean shaven guys because they are immature. Today's media and bollywood is playing great role to brain wash young children. If Sikhs girls want clean-shaven guys, that is to some extent, because almost all Sikh foreign return guys are clean shaven and they marry beautiful girls from Punjab.

Almost all Punjabi singers are clean shaven, and those who wear turbans, cut their beards. They (Punjabi singers) romance beautiful girls in their music videos. When young girls don't see 'sabat soorat' guys participating in anything, naturally they don't want to marry them.

This all is happening because Sikhs parents are not showing any interest to raise their children on Sikh values anymore. When parents are corrupt, what can you expect from children? Young Sikhs guys/girls don't want to be left behind in everyday life. They want to show the world they can match them in any aspect of life.

What parents should teach their children from early age is that they can succeed in any aspect of life by staying Sikh. They don't need to cut their hair or remove their turbans to fit in the society.

One more thing brother, even today, good Sikh girls prefer 'SABAT SOORAT' guys. I have seen that in America. I never expected but there are so many,many girls who only want to marry GurSikhs boys. So don't feel bad. If thoughts are coming in your mind to cut your hair and remove your turban, then don't do that. Wait and good looking girl will come in your life.

Hope is there but we need to change ourselves. Sikhs should be good in studies, work, gursikhi jeevan, and in society. Girls will take notice of that and slowly things will change. They have to !

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa ||
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ||

Mohinder Singh
From Rochester, NY
585-503-5328
[email protected]

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pRYWs irlIjL

State of Oregon Apologies to Sikh American Denied Driver’s License due to Turban

http://www.saldef.org/

AT&T Reverses Kirpan Ban After Sikh Coalition Intervenes

http://www.sikhsangat.org/news/publish/america/AT_T_Reverses_Kirpan_Ban_After_Sikh_Coalition_Intervenes102407.shtml

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hrmMdr isMG

Dear Editor,

The comments of Gurpreet Sumra about S. Lamba posted on your website are despicable. I am grateful to S. Lamba who has started the sequel of question and answers that logically clarifies many issues and misunderstandings that have been falsely propagated.

S. Lamba's views on Ram is very clear from his articles. Especially the latest one that was published on many web portals. Gurpreet Sumra should have crossed checked his writings before spewing venom.

I request you to publish those views on your website which are based on some logic.

Taking inspiration from his own analogy I think Gurpreet seems to have been inflicted by the constipation of both the mouth and the ideas.

Fateh!

Harmandar Singh

UK

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gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor,

In this issue of Sikhmarg, I read two articles regarding Ram by Jagtar Singh ji Jachak and Avtar Singh Missionary.

Both of them have very beautifully explained difference between fictitious Ram who never existed and the Ram of Guru Granth Sahib.

There is no proof outside fiction novel Ramayan that some Ram, son of Dashrath, who was born after Ashwamedh Yagya was performed ever existed. It was just a story that became popular.

The same way now a days "Harry Potter" series by J.K.Rowling is very popular not only among children but adults as well. The same way characters like Superman, Spiderman and Batman are very famous and even movies have been made about them. But it does not mean that they exist, they are just imaginations like Ram.

Here I will like to bring to the attention of the readers of Sikhmarg, that since Govt. of India has declared that Ram never existed, therefore so called Dasam Granth automatically flops, especially so called autobiography or Bachittar Natak in which it claims that Guru Nanak and Guru Ram Das are from the lineage of Luv and Kush, sons of Ram who never existed.

This declaration by Govt. of India has really given a very big setback to proponents of Dasam Granth, especially Gurcharanjit Singh Lamba, editor of Sant Sipahi.

He is now a days busy sending mails to people under the pseudonym of "[email protected]", in which he claims that since Dasam Granth contains "Ram Katha jug jug atal", therefore Ram exists.

This is same as saying that since there are many movies about Superman therefore Superman who flies in air also exists.

Lamba is now in a very tight position, to defend Dasam Granth as it automatically flops, since Ram never existed. So he is now busy writing his own questions and answering them himself and then sending them to different people, but his questions and answers that he writes himself reminds me of a quote :

"Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of the ideas."

regards,


Gurpreet Singh Sumra
Brampton,Canada

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nvnIq isMG

To,

The Editor

SikhMarg.com.

Sat Sri Akal,

Sir i am having something in my mind from a very long time, which i want to share with you. please take it seriously.

I am Navneet Singh, 25 years old, belongs to Ranjit Avenue,Amritsar. I am a sabat surat sikh, and having a full faith in my Sikhisam. Sir i want to describe a bit what i used to watch daily on the Television. In the most of the Hindi movies & some Punjabi Songs videos, there used to be a SIKH (mostly duplicates), behaving like a cartoon, means to say, its always shown that

--> sikh is bit BEFKOOF,

--> dosent know anything,

--> everyone is making fun of that sikh personality in that particular music video or movie.

Sir i am a post graduate, working as a software engg. i am having a big friend circle. many of my friends are clean- shaved.

You know why ??

You know what they used to say, why they are like that ??

They used to say, that,

--> every person think, that, Sikhs are BEFKOOF.They used to make fun of sikhs

--> even the girls, who belong to sikh families, they also want to marry with Clean-shaved boys.

Sir you can very well imagine, what a young sikh boys will do, when a girl is saying like that in front of him.after all we all are humans, every person is having a bit of attraction towards the opposite sex.

Sometimes i had a bit argument/fight with some people, who say something nonsense to me about sikhs. but i cant fight with the whole world,

Because, its totaly in the mind of the people that Sikhs are like that.

--> This is all because of the media.

Sir, i am begging you, plz try to do something against the showing of such nonsence about the sikh personalities in Movies & music videos. because, we are loosing sikhs day-by-day.

please eh muda zaroor chukna, waheguru tuhade te mehar karange

--> When one sikh boys got clean-shaved, his all family onwards will autmatically got clean-shaved..

With regards,
Navneet Singh

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zf: hrijMdr isMG idlgIr

iswK Ìorm klkwqf dy gurmiq iswiKaf kYNp ny sfry pfsy DuMmF pfeIaF

klkwqf – iswK Ìorm klkwqf df golzn jublI kYNp klkwqf vfsIaF vfsqy iewk nf Buwlx vflI qvfrIÉ bx igaf hY. ñø akqUbr qoN cl rhy ies kYNp ivwc sYNkVy bwcy iswK Drm, ieiqhfs qy gurbfxI dI kImqI jfxkfrI dy nfl-nfl iswK siBafcfr aqy jIvn jfc vI iswK rhy hn. iswK Ìorm df ieh kYNp bVy sflF bfad klkwqf ivwc lwigaf hY ijs kr ky mukfmI lok ies `qy bVI ÉuÈI mihsUs kr rhy hn. ies kYNp dI iewk bVI aihm gwl ieh hY ik ies vfr bwcy ivdvfnF qoN bVy guMJlF vfl svfl vI puwC rhy hn ijs qoN sfibq huMdf hY ik bwicaF ny bVI sMjIdgI nfl sfry lYkcr suxy hn.

òó akqUbr lYkcrF df afÉrI idn sI. ies ivwc iswK ieiqhfskfr zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr ny swq, s rfijMdr isMG Kflsf ny swq, s[ mnjIq isMG klkwqf ny iqMn, igafnI kyvl isMG ny iqMn, ipRMsIpl pRBjoq kOr ny do lYkcr idwqy. bwicaF ny ienHF òò lYkcrF nUM bVI ghu qy Auqsukqf nfl suixaf. kYNp dy aÉIr ivwc bwicaF dy tYst ley gey qy AunHF nUM eInfmF nfl invfijaf igaf.

kYNp ivwc zf: hrijMdr isMG idlgIr df jnm idn mnfieaf jfxf iewk XfdgfrI Gtnf bx igaf. kYNp dy sB qoN inwkI Aumr dy isiKafrQI ny AunHF nUM sfiraF vwloN iewk ÉUbsUrq buwky pyÈ kIqf.

kYNp dy ipRMsIpl s[ nirMdrpfl isMG, vfeIs ipRMsIpl s[ avqfr isMG, kmFzYNt zf anMqpfl isMG qy muhkm kOr, ayzjUtYNt gurjIq isMG qy hrpRIq kOr, gurduafrf ieMcfrj s[ suKvMq isMG, siqbIr isMG qy jiqMdr kOr sn. bwicaF ny kYNp dI sfrI kfrvfeI sxy lMgr aqy gurduafrf pRbMD afpxy-afp clfeI. kYNp ivwc Èfiml hox vfly sfry bwicaF nUM iewk ÉUbsUrq ÌfeIl, iswK kOx hn ikqfb aqy styÈnrI qoN ielfvf kImqI eInfm, trfÌIaF aqy srtIÌIkyt idwqy gey.

ies mOky `qy iewk ÉUbsUrq suvInr vI jfrI kIqf igaf ijs ivwc zf sMqoK isMG Bupfl zf: idlgIr, mnjIq isMG klkwqf, rijMdr isMG Klfsf, mnmohx isMG, avqfr isMG, roËI kOr, muhkm kOr, amrjIq isMG, jgmohx isMG, jgdIÈ isMG dy kImqI lyK sn.

kYNp ivwc hornF qoN ielfvf s srn isMG (ayzItr iswK rIvIAU), gurU nfnk cyar dy pRoÌYsr zfktr ihmfdrI bYnrjI, s mfn isMG gryvfl (pRDfn gurduafrf bVI sMgq), s imhr isMG grIb (pRDfn gurduafrf sMq kutIaf), s[ cyqMn isMG (pRDfn gurduafrf isMG sBf), s jgmohx isMG (skwqr sYNtrl kmytI), s AUDm isMG (pRDfn gurduafrf ibhflf iswK sMgq), bIbI hrnfm kOr (supqnI s ÉËfn isMG aYNbYszr afÌ iswKieËm), bIbI hymjIq kOr, bIbI mndIp kOr ies kYNp ivwc keI vfr ÈrIk hoey.

ies kYNp vfsqy sB qoN vD rol s idlbIr isMG, bIbI roËI kOr, suKpRIq kOr, s pRdIp isMG, s gurmIq isMG, s avqfr isMG qfrI, rijMdr isMG, cmkOr isMG qy bIbI kulvIn kOr ny vD cVH ky ihwsf pfieaf.

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qrlocn isMG dupflpur aqy sfQI

bf-mulfhjf iqRaf-cirqR dy AupfÈk ‘lFbf jI’ hfËr ho …!

dsm-gRMQ dy pRymI snmfnXog lFbf jI,

Piqh pRvfn krnI jI.

ieslfm ivwc awlfh dI Ëfq dy briKlfP hryk ÈkqI nUM ‘kuÌr’ afiKaf jFdf hY. gurU nfnk dy PlsÌy anUsfr sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb dI pfvn hsqI brfbr iksy hor ‘gRMQ’ nUM ‘ÈrIk’ bxfAuxf vI kuÌr qoN iksy qrF vI Gwt nhIN hY. sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb dy muqbfdl iksy vI hor gRMQ dI mfnqf bfbq koeI iswK supny ivwc vI nhIN soc skdf. pr DMn ho lFbf jI qusI jo injI rUp `c hI nhIN sgoN afpxy mYgjIn rfhIN iswKF nUM smUihk rUp `c gurU nfloN qoVn dI kucyÈtf `c lwgy hoey ho. quhfzy nfl sMvfd rcfAux leI asIN afp nUM do Kq ilK cuwky hF. ijnF ivwc ‘iswK mfrg’ vYb sfeIt `qy afAux leI qUhfnUM Kycl krn leI ikhf igaf sI. AunHF df AuWqr dyx dI QF afp ‘zflo GuwQI zUMmxI vFg’ afÜ-pqfl’ hI ilKdy-boldy af rhy ho. ipMzF ivwc jy iksy srkfrI ieqlfh dI bf-ËrIaf zfk qflIm nf ho sky qF pIpf KVkf ky munfdI krvfeI jFdI hY. so ikRpf krky sfzy ies qIjy Kq nUM munfdI vFg idwqf igaf ‘swdf’ hI smJxf jI. sfnUM dwso jI ik asI gurU dy igafn dI KVg lY ky mIzIey dy iks ipV ivwc afeIey? aqy quhfzy nfl sMvfd rcfeIey qF ik iswK jgq nUM ies gwl df BlI-BFq pqf cwl jfey ik sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb dy pYrokfr imÈnrI vIrF df miq grmiq hY jF dsm gRMQ nUM ‘sRI gurU…’ kihx vfilaF df! AumId krdy hF ik sfzy ied munfdI numF Kq df jvfb dy ky ikRqfrQ krogy.

KYr-adyÈ:- sR[ kfrj isMG sMDU iPlfzYlPIaf, sR[ srbjIq isMG sYkrfmYNto, sR[ qrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI), sR gurcrn isMG ijAuxvflf (knyzf), ig[ hrijMdr isMG luiDafxf (kYnyzf), ig[ aMimRqpfl isMG sYlmF (USA) pRo[ mwKx isMG sYkrfmYNto, zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl sYnhojy, ipRMsIpl sR[ jsbIr isMG ropV, BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy bIbI hrismrq kOr Éflsf (USA).

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zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr

kMtynr rfhIN guru gRMQ sfihb dy srUp Byjx nfl gurU gRMQ sifhb dI byadbI nhIN huMdI - zfktr idlgIr

cMzIgVH (ivÈyÈ nfmfingfr) – iswK ieiqhfs rIsrc borz (ÈromxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI) dy sfbkf zfierYktr iswK ivdvfn zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr ny iewk ibafn ivwc ikhf hY ik kMntynr rfhIN dUjy dyÈ nUM gurU gRMQ sfihb dy srUp Byjx nfl gurU gRMQ sfihb dI byadbI nhIN huMdI bÈrqy ik pYikMg krn vyly Aus nUM shI qrIky nfl sMBfl ky rwiKaf igaf hovy. zf idlgIr ny ieh itwpxI idwlI iswK gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI vwloN knyzf Byjy jf rhy gurU gRMQ sfihb dy srUpF sbMDI iCVI crcf `qy kIqI hY.

iswK ieiqhfskfr ny ikhf hY ik guru gRMQ sfihb dI byadbI ieMj nhIN blik AudoN huMdI hY jdoN Aus dI hËUrI ivwc akflI afgU iewk dUjy dIaF pwgF lfhuMdy hn, JUT boldy hn qy pfp kmfAuNdy hn. ieh byadbI AudoN huMdI hY jd guru gRMQ sfihb awgy sMgq vwloN ÈrDf nfl tyky gey mwQy dI rkm nUM akflI cODrI Êbn krdy hn jF injI lfB jF pfrtI muÌfd vfsqy vrqdy hn.

AunHF hor ikhf ik guru grMQ sfihb dI byadbI AudoN huMdI hY jd vydFqI qy hor pujfrI guru gRMQ sfihb dy brfbr aKOqI dsm gRMQ df prkfÈ krdy hn qy lokF qoN ies ikqfb awgy mwQy itkvfAuNdy hn. ieh byadbI AudoN huMdI hY jdoN ieh pujfrI pRkfÈ isMG bfdl dIaF Dfrimk vysvfvF bx ky bfdl dy ivroDIaF nUM afny-bhfny akfl qÉq sfihb `qy qlb krn dIaF sfiËÈF GVdy hn.

AunHF ikhf ik drasl afr[ aYWs[ aYWs[ dy hukm hyT bfdl DVf cfhuMdf hY ik guru gRMQ sfihb dy srUp lokF qk nf phuMc skx qy Auh gurbfxI qy iswKI nfl nf juV skx.

(not:- ieWQy cyqy rwKx vflI ieh vI iek jrUrI gwl hY ik ieh srUp knyzf Byjx vfly vI iek krmkFzI jQy nfl sMbMDq hn, knyzf mMgvfAux vfly vI EhI hn aqy sB qoN ijLafdf rOlf pAux vfly vI EhI hn aqy afpxI vYWb sfeIt qy dUijaF pRqI GtIaf sLbdfvlI ivc afpxy krmkFzF df kUV pRcfr krn vfly vI EhI hn-sMpfdk)

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srvjIq isMG

Dfrimk slfhkfr kmytI dI cODvIN iekwqrqf imqI 13-5-43 dI kfrvfeI

29[ bIVF dy pfrsl: sRI drbfr sfihb kmytI dI pwiqRkf nM: 4125/67 imqI 28-12-44 ijs rfhIN AunHF puwC kIqI sI ik kI sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dIaF bIVF bfhr pfrslF rfjI ByjIaF jfxIaF cfhIdIaF hn jF nhI pyÈ ho ky pRvfn hoieaf ik pfrslF rfhIN bIVF loV pYx `qy Byj dyxIaF cfhIdIaF hn prMqU ies gwl df Kfs iKafl rwiKaf jfxf cfhIdf hY ik pYikMg cMgf qy afdr Xog hovy.

not: ies smyN isMG sfihb jQydfr mohx isMG jI iekwqrqf ivwc drÈn idwqy.

shI/rvyl isMG mIq skwqr

(‘pMQk mqy’ sMpfdk zf: ikrpfl isMG, pMnf 38)

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igafnI sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

aDk ( w) dI imwtI plIq

aDk w iewk aijhf grIb icMnH hY ijs dI, pMjfbI dy lyKk, kMpoËr, pRkfÈk afid sB qoN vD durvrqoN krdy hn. ijQy iesdI loV hovy EQy iesnUM lfAuxf nhI qy ijQy nf lwgdf hovy EQy ËrUr lf idMdy hn. Kfs krky pwCmI pMjfb qoN afey hoey lyKk swjxF ny qF ijvyN ikqy qhweIaf hI kIqf hoieaf hovy ies ivcfry aDk w dI imwtI plIq krn df. idwlI XUnIvristI dy iewk sfbk pRoÌYsr sfihb jI qoN pqf lgf ik poTohfr dy ielfky ivcoN afAux vfÜy lyKkF df nF hI AuhnF ivwidak dfiery ivc, mKOl vjoN aDkF pfieaf hoieaf sI; ikAuNik Auh aksr hI iesdI byloVI qy vfDU vrqoN krdy sn/hn. AuhnF dIaF ilKqF pVHky vyKo; ijQy loV hovygI EQy iesnUM nhI lfAuxgy qy ijQy nhI loV hovygI EQy ËrUr hI ies ivcfry nUM tFkxgy. asIN ajy qwk ieh nhI jfx sky ik aDk kyvl ijs awKr df dohrf Aucfrx hovy, Aus qoN pihly awKr Aupr hI lfieaf jFdf hY; hor ikqy nhI. ijQy Èwk hovy arQfq pUrf XkIn nf hovy EQy lfAux dI koeI loV nhI; ies qoN ibnf vI sr skdf hY. imsfl vjoN: vrqmfn smy aMdr pwqrF dy sMpfdk Èbd ‘kuJ’ dy Aupr byloVf aDk lf ky iesnUM ‘kuwJ’ bxfAux ivwc axgihlI nhI krdy. asIN pyNzU mJYl ies ‘kuJ’ nUM ‘kuÈ’ boldy hF qy AurdU ihMdI vfÜy vI eysy qrHF hI boldy hn. ihMdI ivwc iliKaf iesnUM ‘kuC’ jFdf hY. keI swjx È qy C df Aucfrn nf swkx kfrn, iesnUM ‘kus’ vI Aucfrdy hn. pwCmI pMjfb dy, pRo[ sfihb isMG jI, s[ gurbÉÈ isMG jI afid iswK ilKfrIaF ny iesnUM ‘kuJ’ ilKxf ÈurU kr idqf qy Cfpy ivwc eyho hI pRcwlq ho igaf ijsnUM hux bdl ky BMbÜBUsy ivwc hor vfDf krn dI koeI quk nhI bxdI; pr ieh mYnUM smJ nhI afAuNdI ik qkrIbn hryk sMpfdk hI ies Aupr byloVf aDk lfAuxo ikAuN nhI Aukdf! vYsy gurbfxI ivwc ies arQ vfsqy, ieh Èbd iehnF rUpF ivwc vI afieaf hY: kC, kCu, kCU, kCUa, kCUak, ikC, ikCu, ikCU, ikCUa, ikChU, ikJu, ikJ; ijnHF nUM ajoky smy dy CfpyKfny ivwc ilaf ky, pihlF hI vÜgxo bfhrIaF ho cuwkIaF AuÜJxF ivwc hor vfDf krn dI koeI loV nhI. hux iesdf pRcwlq rUp ‘kuJ’ hI TIk hY.

pMjfbI ivwc iehnF kuwJ igxvy cuxvyN QFvF qoN ibnf, hor QFvF qy aDk nf vI lwgy qF arQF ivwc iPr vI koeI Prk nhI pYNdf:

pd (pdvI) pwd (aÈuD hvf)	pwqx (port) pqn (igrfvt)
kd (kdoN) kwd (sfeIË)	gudf (ipwT) guwdf (plp)
pq (ieËq) pwq (pwqy)	jq (sMjm) jwq (vfÜ)
Blf (cMgf) Bwlf (Kfx vfÜf)	Dup (Doxf) Duwp (sUrj dI)
pqf (isrnfvF) pwqf (drwÉq df pwqf)	sdf (hmyÈF) swdf (bulfvf)
bcf (bflk) bwcf (bcfAuxf)	sjf (jurmfnf) swjf (rfeIt)

igafnI sMqoK isMG

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iswK Ìorm df õúvF gurmiq tryinMg kYNp bVI DUmDfm nfl ÈurU hoieaf

pRmuK ivdvfnF ny bwicaF nUM iswK qvfrIÉ qy iÌlfsÌI dI jfxkfrI idwqI

klkwqf – iswK Ìorm klkwqf df golzn jublI gurmiq tryinMg kYNp iewQoN dy BvfnIpur Kflsf skUl ivwc bVI DUmDfm nfl ÈurU hoieaf. kYNp dI ÈurUafq s: avqfr isMG klkwqf ny bwicaF aqy ivdvfnF nUM jI afieaF afK ky kIqI. pihly idn s: rfijMdr isMG knvInr ÈRomxI Kflsf pMcfieq ny gurU gRMQ sfihb bfry bwicaF nUM BrpUr jfxkfrI idwqI. AunHF ny bwicaF nUM svfl-jvfb dy qrIky nfl lYkcr nfl joVI vI rwiKaf aqy AunHF nUM svflF dy shI jvfb dyx qy eInfm vI idwqy.

iswK ieiqhfskfr zfktr hrijMdr isMG idlgIr ny gurU nfnk sfihb dy jIvn aqy iÌlfsÌI nUM sucwjy ZMg nfl pyÈ kIqf. AunHF dwisaf ik isrÌ iswK Drm hI akfl purK df Drm hY qy bfkI dy Drm afpo-afpxy pYÊMbrF dy Drm hn. isrÌ iswK Drm hI akfl purK dI pUjf dI gwl krdf hY qy bfkI dy Drm afpo-afpxy Drm dy afgU dI pUjf vfsqy kihMdy hn.

ies kYNp ivwc do so qoN vD bwcy ihwsf lY rhy hn. klkwqf qy bMgfl dy hor ihwisaF qoN ielfvf keI bwcy asfm aqy hor sUibaF qoN vI puwjy hoey hn. kYNp dy muK pRbMDk s: jgmohn isMG igwl (jnrl skwqr sYNtrl gurduafrf kmytI vYst bMgfl), s: dlbIr isMG (jnrl skwqr klkwqf gurdvfrfË), s[ avqfr isMG (iswK rIivAU), zf: anMdpfl isMG, suKvMq isMG, siqbIr isMG, gurjIq isMG, mohkm kOr, prdIp isMG, gurjIq isMG, hrpRIq kOr, roËI kOr, ismrnjIq isMG, gurmIq isMG, avqfr isMG, nirMdrpfl isMG, suKpRIq kOr, kulvIn kOr, rfijMdr isMG afidk hn.

ieh kYNp òõ akqUbr qk clygf. ies ivwc zf idlgIr, s rfijMdr isMG, ipRMsIpl pRBjoq kOr, s; mnjIq isMG klkwqf, igafnI kyvl isMG aqy hor ivdvfn vwicaF nUM iswK Drm aqy iÌlfsÌI df igafn dyxgy.

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gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI

srkfrI afrzInYNs dI afV ivwc ikqy Èbd gurU dy asl mksd nUM hI nf Buwl jfeIey

kpUrQlf 18 akqUbr (gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI, ikrxpRIq BftIaf) pMjfb srkfr vloN hflIaf jfrI afrzInYNs, ijs rfhIN ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI CpfeI sbMDI ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI nUM Cwz ky bfkI pRfeIvyt pbilÈrF Aupr pfbMdI lgfeI geI hY, ny iswK pMQ ivwc nvF ivvfd pYdf kr idwqf hY. ies pfvn gRMQ nUM iswKF dy vrqmfn jfhrf jhUr gurU hox df drjf pRfpq hY. gurU sfihb vloN afpxf ÈrIr iqafgx vyly iswK sMgqF nUM ieh afdyÈ idwqf igaf sI ik "afqmf gRMQ ivwc, ÈrIr pMQ ivwc". Bfv ik jy iksy ny myry ÈrIr dy drÈn krny hoxgy qF cVdI klf vflf Kflsf pMQ myrf hI rUp hovygf. afqimk qOr qy drÈn krn leI iswK nUM ies pfvn gRMQ dI ivcfrDfrf qy aml krnf hovygf.

bfhrI qOr qy dyiKaF pMjfb srkfr dy ies afrzInYNs qoN ieh Bfsdf hY ik kuwJ pRfeIvyt pbilÈrF vloN CpfeI aqy trFsport dOrfn vrqIaF jFdIaF kuqfhIaF nUM Twl pfAux leI hI ieh pfbMdI vflf kdm cuwikaf igaf hY. kuwJ vrgF vloN ies afrzInYNs dI qih ivwc jfx qoN pihlF hI iesdf svfgq vI kr idwqf igaf hY. pr ieh sfzI bdiksmqI hY ik asIN iewk dUsry nUM nIvF idKfAux leI kfhlI ivwc hI ibnF socy smJy ieho ijhIaF glqIaF kr bYTdy hF, ijhVIaF bfd ivwc pCqfvy df kfrx bxdIaF hn. kwl vfprIaF GtnfvF ny ieh qOKlf swc iswD kr idwqf hY.

ÈRomxI kmytI, ijsnUM hr mfmly ivwc iswKI isDFqF nUM imwtI ivwc rol ky afpxI mqlbpRsq isafsq Golx df kfPI qËrbf pRfpq hY, ny ies mfmly ivwc vI mOkf ajfeIN nhIN gvfieaf. pMjfb srkfr vloN jfrI aqy pMjfb dy Kyqr ivwc hI asrdfr ies afrzInYNs rfhIN ÈRomxI kmytI ny hux idwlI dI gurduafrf kmytI nfl pMgy lYxy ÈurU kr idwqy hn. ijkrXog hY ik idwlI kmytI Aupr ies vkq bfdl ivroDI prmjIq isMG srnf guwt df kbËf hY. Drm pRcfr dy afpxy asl inÈfny qoN Btk ky gurduafiraF Aupr kfbË isafsqdfnF df asl mMqv kyvl qy kyvl afpxy gruwp nUM hfvI krky kursIaF qy kbjf krnf hI rih igaf hY. idwlI kmytI vloN ieh spwÈt krn qy ik pMjfb srkfr vloN jfrI kIqf afrzInYNs kyvl pMjfb Kyqr leI hI hY, ÈRomxI kmytI dy pRDfn sfihb ny ies qoN KPf ho ky pfvn bIVF nUM hvfeI jhfj rfhIN iljfey jfx dOrfn hoeI byhurmqI leI afpxy bfdl guwt dy bMidaF nUM ies mfmly dI pVqfl krn leI Byj idwqf hY. nfl hI ies kmytI dI irport afAux qoN pihlF hI idwlI iswK gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI nUM ijMmyvfr vI Tihrf idwqf igaf hY. ÈRomxI kmytI dI ies bdly vflI kfrvfeI qoN hI ies afrzInYNs dI asl Bfvnf sfhmxy af jFdI hY.

ibnF Èwk, hr iswK leI afpxy gurU df siqkfr mhwqvpUrn hY aqy ieh AusdI ijMmyvfrI vI hY, pr Èfied sfzy ajoky iswKF nUM ‘siqkfr’ Èbd dy arQ vI pUrI qrHF spwÈt nhIN. sfzy iswK Brf qF gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy bfhrI siqkfr nUM hI asl siqkfr smJI bYTy hn, AuhnF ny gurU amrdfs jI dy iehnF pfvn bcnF nUM vI kdy nhIN vIcfiraf ik "siqgur no sBu ko vyKdf jyqf jgqu sMsfru ] izTY mukiq n hoveI ijcru sbid n kry vIcfru ]" gurbfxI dI asl ivcfr nUM Buwl ky iswK kOm kyvl bfhrI idKfvy vfly siqkfr jF qoqf rwtx vfly pfTF ivwc AulJ ky hI rih geI hY. bfkI rihMdI ksr, sfzI ÈRomxI kmytI pUrI kr rhI hY. ies ivwc koeI do rfvF nhIN ik aMimRqsr dy iewk pRfeIvyt pbilÈr, jo ik aksr vihmF BrmF vflIaF aqy gurmiq ivcfrDfrf ivroDI pusqkF Cfpx ivwc mohrI smiJaf jFdf hY, vloN pfvn bIVF dI CpfeI vyly keI byadbIaF vflIaF kfrvfeIaF sfhmxy afeIaF sn aqy iswK sMgqF ny ies bfry sKq ieqrfj vI kIqy sn, pr Aus pbilÈr nUM sbk isKfAux vflI ies kfrvfeI dI afV ivwc pMjfb srkfr qoN afrzInYNs jfrI krvf ky kyvl ÈRomxI kmytI nUM hI CpfeI df aiDkfr dyxf isafxp vflI kfrvfeI nhIN smiJaf jfvygf. pRfeIvyt pbilÈrF ivruwD AusdI kfrvfeI qwd qwk ivvfdF ivwc hI iGrI rhygI, jd qwk ÈRomxI kmytI ieh suinÈicq nhIN krdI ik –

• Aus aDIn pRYWs ivwc CpfeI iblkuwl shI siqkfr aqy mirafdf nfl kIqI jFdI hY.

• Aus vloN CfpIaF pusqkF iswK ivcfrDfrf df shI aks hn aqy Aus ivwc iswK ivroDI koeI smwgrI Èfml nhIN.

• drbfr sfihb dy afly duafly iswK ivroDI sfihwq vyc rhIaF dukfnF ivruwD vI sKq kfrvfeI krky rok lgfeI jfvygI.

• ÈRomxI kmytI, iswK sMgqF duafrf pfvn bIVF dI mMg nUM qurMq pUiraF krn leI loVINdI kfrvfeI krygI.

ies dOrfn kpUrQlf Èihr ivclIaF pMQk jQybMdIaF dy bulfry aqy pMQk ivdvfn Tykydfr suirMdr isMG Kflsf ny ivcfr pRgt kIqf hY ik ijs qrHF ÈRomxI kmytI ny pMjfb srkfr Aupr dbfa pf ky Aukq afrzInYNs jfrI krvfieaf hY, Ausy qrHF Èbd gurU df asl siqkfr bhfl krn leI iewk hor afrzInYNs jfrI krky aKMz pfTF ijhy Pokt krmF qy pfbMdI lgfeI jfvy aqy iesdI bjfey sihj pfTF nUM sMgqF ivwc pRcwlq kIqf jfvy. hr iswK pirvfr qy ies Èrq lgfeI jfvy ik Auh sfl ivwc Gwto Gwt iewk sihj pfT afp krygf. Èbd dI ivcfr nUM pRmuwKqf idwqI jfvy aqy iesdI ÈurUafq ÈRI drbfr sfihb qoN ÈurU kIqI jfvy ikAuNik purfqn mirafdf qoN spwÈt huMdf hY ik pihlF ÈRI drbfr sfihb ivwc gurbfxI dI ivcfr vI kIqI jFdI rhI hY, jo aMgryjF dy dbfa kfrx bMd kr idwqI geI sI.

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Sardar Manjit Singh ji and Gurpreet Singh Samra ji
Gur Fateh,

It was very pleasing to read the discussion about Kartarpuri Bir. First I would like to say is this: I doubt any of you have seen the Karturi Bir. Nor have I seen it and nor can anyone take a look at it easily. Based on other scholar’s observations we can deduce its authenticity. Did Bhai Gurdas ji really write this Bir under the supervision of fifth Nanak Guru Arjan Sahib?

Now let us discuss what scholars such as Bhai Jodh Singh DLit who examined the Bir along with Ganga Singh, Teja Singh and Prof. Sahib Singh. They examined in November 1945 and August 1946. They write that the Bir contains historical dates. There are numerous page numbering errors such as pages appear more than once or not at all. Many pages are totally empty while some only contain a very small number of lines. More than hundred lines are crossed out. There are words in between lines in a few places. In some places, the wet ink was swiped and overwritten as it is done on blackboards. It is written using different pens and ink. Mira Bai’s shabad is written and then crossed out. (Jodh Singh. Karturi Bir De Darshan. 1990).

So all this suggests is that, if it was really written by Bhai Gurdas, it is a very rough draft. So Manjit Singh ji, do you really believe that Bhai Gurdas was a very slipshod writer? And do you believe that Guru Arjan Sahib accepted this work? Since this Bir contains empty pages, what if an empty page came up when taking a Hukamnama? Do you believe Guru would install rough draft Bir at Hardmider Sahib in 1604 CE?

I have not had free time to read the articles by S. Daljit Singh but I did read the lines which Manjit Singh quoted. Based on the fact that Karturi Bir says that it was completed in samat 1661 and that no other Bir claims a near about date, Daljit Singh concludes that Kartpuri Bir is authentic. However, I don’t think it is very logical to accept the date written in it and make the final conclusion and ignore the mistakes in the Bir.

Another very notable defect in the Karturi Bir is Ragmala which is not Gurbani and this issue has been settled. In fact Jodh Singh examined Kartarpuri Bir to see if it contained Ragmala or not. So, if Kartpuri is authentic, then who wrote Ragmala? Bhai Gurdas or Guru Arjan Sahib? Ragmala is from "Madv Nal Kam Kandla" by Kavi Alam with 179 stanzas. But in Guru Granth Sahib and Kartarpuri Bir only contains stanzas 34-38. So how did part of Alam’s poetry land in Kartarpuri Bir without any mention of Alam?

If Guru Arjan Sahib installed this Bir or any Bir at Darbar Sahib, then who did the Sikhs bow to? Guru Arjan Sahib or the Bir? "Gur Bilas Patshai 6" is the oldest (written around 1718) book which claims that Guru Arjan Sahib installed the Bir at Darbar Sahib. However, this book was banned from publishing in early 2001 by the SGPC, the same SGPC which published the book earlier in 1999. The editor of this book is Joginder Singh Vedanti. So what authenticity does this book have now? Do we have any other sources besides this book that claim a Bir was installed by Guru Arjan Sahib?

As S. Sumra has mentioned, I suggest everyone to read "Kartpuri Bir De Darshan." Knowing the dates, which the Bir claims, is not enough evidence to prove its authenticity. Looking at its contents and then deciding if Guru Arjan Sahib and Bhai Gurdas really wrote it.

Regards,
Amrinder Singh

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PRESS RELEASE

 

Texas Radio Station Apologizes for Anti-Sikh Remarks

Local Sikh American community and SALDEF work together to secure apology

 

Washington, DC: October 12, 2007 – Yesterday, the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund (SALDEF), the nation’s oldest and largest Sikh American civil rights and advocacy organization, received a formal apology from Mr. Jaipal Reddy, Chairman and CEO of Radio Salaam Namaste in response to complaints from the Sikh American community in Texas and a letter from SALDEF.

On the evening of October 6, 2007, Radio Salaam Namaste DJ’s Sadat and Talha made several jokes and disparaging remarks about ‘Sardars’ (male members of the Sikh faith). They then encouraged listeners to call-in to the station with more jokes about members of the Sikh faith.

"Your comments demonstrate a significant lack of judgment and professionalism and perpetuate an extremely hurtful and demeaning stereotype about members of the Sikh faith. [Additionally] such stereotypes not only directly affect Sikh American listeners, but also color the perceptions of your listeners and affect their relationships with members of the Sikh American community," wrote SALDEF to the DJs and station management.

In addition to the written apology, Radio Salaam Namaste is playing a taped apology on the air every hour.  Listen to the apology here.

"We appreciate the prompt response from Mr. Reddy and his willingness to meet with members of the community," said SALDEF National Director, Rajbir Singh Datta. "This resolution is a prime example of the positive results that come from community partnership and action."

 

SALDEF would like to acknowledge and thank Manmohan Singh of World Sikh Council for working locally with the radio station and facilitating a meeting with local community members and the station.

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Dear Editor,
Respected Manjit Singh has written me as a Doctor. To clear his misunderstanding I am not a Doctor in any field.
Now coming back to his 3 mails, that he has been writing :
1)First two mails were related to Kartarpuri Bir. He forwarded some links of articles written by Daljit Singh. I have read that book as well as "Kartarpuri Bir de Darshan", but still thanks for his information as it seems he has been spending quite a lot of time, in finding sources and evidences to made his case, which again is the imagination of his mind.
Anyways the logic that he has been using is technically known as "tautology".
2)As stated earlier in my post , he is not a good reader, he proves it again, third time. I would not have responded if not told by someone.
2.1)I request him to again go through my first post, and see what I am asking for?
3)For Quran, he has searched Internet, and gave two sites answers.com and wikipedia. These are internet sources and will never be accepted as authentic. If he has read Quran, then he would not have quoted them.
For his information both the sites he quoted i.e. www.answers.com and wikipedia.org says Dasam Granth is written by Guru Gobind Singh!!!! (I know who has written this on Wikipedia)
Wikipedia is an open source anyone by making an account on it can add/edit information including Manjit Singh and can bask in disillusion that he has become an Author.
About Quran, I again tell him to read my original post, which says

"All the surahs of the Quran had been recorded in writing before the Prophet's death." (Quran(English Translation), Al-Attique Publishers Inc., Edition 2003, page 23)

Surahs are the chapters in Quran, Muhammad was an illetrate person, who could not read and write.

According to Quran he used to come out of Cave and tell people that angel Gabriel has passed him this message.

When he used to come out of cave he used to start shaking his head and people now a days says that he used to had epileptic attacks.I advise Manjit Singh not to depend on unauthentic sources. There are many good books available on Islam if he wants some authentic information such as "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris which deals in great detail about Islam, "Infidel" by Ayaan Hirsi Ali and the best source is ofcourse Quran.

Finally, I would only like to quote Hitchens, (I suppose)

"I was born ignorant and still I am to a great extent. I learned everything I know from others. I am not ashamed for being ignorant. It is haughtiness, condescendence and obstinacy that are shameful."
Gurpreet Singh Sumra
Brampton,Canada

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Respected Makhan Singh Ji,
Now a days on your Website S Surjit Singh is spelling/pronouncing the the first word of SGGS as Ikoo instead of it traditional pronunciation Ikonar. Some time back I tried to engage S Surjit Singh in a meaningful dialogue on this subject, but he went away saying that I should discuss this with S N S Kalsi. Now I had a discussion with S Nirmal Singh Kalsi regarding his thesis of pronunciation of the word Ikonkar as Ikoo. This is in English, though quotes from SGGS are in Gurmukhi. I shall feel obliged if you can put this discussion on your website for the perusal of your readers.
Thanks
Jarnail Singh

(Please click here to download or to read this discussion)

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Respected sardar Sahib,

If for any reason, you are unable to give space to the article of S. Daljit Singh, I sent to you as attachment with my previous mail, please publish these links which can be used by readers to read the article:

http://www.sikhcoalition.org/Sikhism18.asp

and

http://www.globalsikhstudies.net/pdf/kartbir1.pdf

Best regards,

Manjit Singh

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kuJ icr qoN sR[ lFbf jI iswK imÈnrIaF, pMQk ivdvfnF aqy gurmiq dy ivafiKafkfr gRMQIaF mgr hwQ Do ky pey hoey hn aqy aKOqI dsm gRMQ qy sMpRdfeI gRMQIaF dI vkflq kr rhy hn jdoN ik dsm gRMQ dI bfxI mnuwK nUM ivBcfrI, ÈrfbI-kvfbI juhfrIaf afid bxfAuNdI hY. ieh sfrf kuwJ "sMq ispfhI" rsfly rfhIN aqy sMpRdfeIaF dI hlf ÈyrI imlx krky ho irhf hY. sMq ispfhI rsfly ivwc iswK imÈnrIaF aqy pMQk ivdvfnF ivruwD bydlIlf DUMaF Dfr pRcfr kIqf jf irhf hY. jy koeI ivdvfn ilKfrI ies df jvfb idMdf vI hY qF Aus nUM inrpwKqf nfl Cfpdy hI nhI. aKbfr rsfly qF iewk mIzIaf hn ivcfrF dy adfn pRdfn df pr sOVI soc vfly sMpfdk dUijaF dI rfey nUM koeI QF nhIN idMdy aqy iewkpfsV hI ilKI jf rhy hn. asIN dyiKaf hY ik bhuq sfry rsfilaF aqy aKbfrF nfloN sikhmarg.com vYbsfeIt sB nUM brfbr dI QF idMdI hY. hryk dy ivcfr Cfpy jFdy hn. sR[ lFbf jI aqy ies dy hor sihXogIaF nUM sikhmarg.com rfhIN aKoqI dsm gRMQ bfry ivcfr ivtfNdrf krn df asIN KuwlHf swdf idMdy hfN. ies ivcfr vfsqy sikhmarg.com ny afpxf plyt Pfrm dohF iDrF vfsqy KolH idwqf hY.

asI afp jI nUM ipCly hPqy vI swdf idwqf sI. pr afp jI ny koeI huMgfrf nhI Biraf. afs krdy hF ik afp jI ies vfr sfnUM inrfÈ nhI krogy.

asIN hF-sR[ kfrj isMG sMDU iPlfzYlPIaf, sR[ srbjIq isMG sYkrfmYNto, sR[ qrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI), sR gurcrn isMG (ijAuxvflf knyzf), igafnI hrijMdr isMG luiDafxf (knyzf), ig[ aMimRqpfl isMG sYlmF (USA) pRo[ mwKx isMG sYkrfmYNto, zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl sYnhojy, ipRMsIpl sR[ jsbIr isMG ropV, BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy bIbI hrismrq kOr Éflsf (USA).

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Respected sardar Sahib

I am attaching an article written by S. Daljit Singh, which also deals with the date when this Bir was completed. Please refer to para 4 of this article, which states:

"The Kartarpuri Bir is the only Bir which records that it was completed in Bhadon, 1661 "Samat 1661 Miti Bhadon Vadi ekam I pothi likh pouhnche." There is no handwritten Bir the record of which claims the same to have been completed on Bhadon Samat, 1661 or near about. In fact, this dated volume being the earliest, it is a good piece of evidence not only to show the authenticity of the Kartarpuri Bir but also to fix the date of the preparation of the Bir by the Fifth Guru."

Best regards,

A humble sikh

(Manjit Singh)

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jdoN Ravi T V aYn mOky qy iewk pfsV ho igaf! !

kYlyPornIaF (pwqr pRyrk) ipCly vIrvfr 4 akqUbr 2007 nUM inAUXfrk dy ielfky ivKy jo "Ravi T V" qy Èfm df tfk Èoa mfn isMG phyvy bfry kIqf igaf, Auh inrpwK nhIN sI ikAuNik jo kflr ies ByKI sfD bfry dyÈF ivdyÈF qoN dUr durfizEN bfeI Pon afpxy ivcfr pyÈ krny cfhuMdy sI AuhnF dIaF kflF leIaF nhIN geIaF jF kwt idwqIaF geIaF aqy sfD dy purfxy smwrQkF dIaF kflF vwD qoN vwD lY ky ies mIzIey ny iewk pfsV rol adf kIqf, jo aiq inMdxXog kfrvfeI hY aqy mIzIey dy nF qy klMk hY. awj df sOVI soc vflf mIzIaf ikAuN aYsf kr irhf hY? ies ivwc kI rfj hY? jd ik iesy sfD AuWpr pihlF aÉbfrF rfhIN lVkIaF dy sLoÈx aqy ÈrDflU pRvfrF df rupieaF pYsf qy ËmIn jfiedfdF hVwpx dy doÈ lwg cuwky hn. aijhy sfD afey idn sMgqF df sLoÈx kr rhy hn. ikrq qy igRhsq df iqafg krky, mihlFnumF zyry TfT Ausfr ky mOj myly qy aYÈF krdy hoey aigafnI ÈrDflUaF dI ieËq afbrU luwt rhy hn. KuMBF vFg AuWgy ieh srkfrI sfD hrfm dI kmfeI nfl mIzIey qy vI BfrU ho cuwky hn. pr iPr vI bhfdrI krky jy koeI aÉbfr swcfeI pyÈ krdf hY qF ieh lok Aus nUM mfrn ijvyN hirafxy ivwc CwqRpqI pwqRkfr mfiraf, spoksmYn dy dÌqrF qy hmly kIqy aqy hornF nUM agfAUN DmkIaF dy rhy hn. so asIN bynqI krdy hF ik mIzIaf sB leI hY qy Aus nUM mIzIey dy inXmF dI pflxF kridaF inrpwK rol adf krnf cfhIdf hY aqy jnqf dI KUn psIny dI kmfeI nUM hVwpx aqy Aus qy plx vfly ivhlV sfDF dy Brmjfl qoN jnqf nUM jfgrUk krnf cfhIdf hY Xfd rwKo gurU sihbFn ny pMQ sfijaf sI nf ik ivhlV sfDF dy zyry. ieh ros gurU gRMQ sfihb dy iswKF vloN kIqf igaf hY nf ik iksy sfD dy cyly vloN. sfnUM ies bfry pfTkF dy bhuq Pon afey hn ikAuNik asIN hI ies tfk sLoa bfry pMjfb aYkspRYs aKbfr ivwc sUcnf idwqI sI. sfnUM pfTk kflrF nfl kIqy gey ivqkry df BfrI Kyd hY-sqnfm isMG rtYNzf azItr "pMjfb aYkspRYs inAUjrsI"

AupRokq ivqkry ivruwD ros pRgt krdIaF hoeIaF kflr aqy pMQk jQybMdIaF

roËfnf spoksmYn aÉbfr amrIkf dy pqRkfr sR[ srbjoq isMG svwdI aqy pMQk ivdvfn sR[ iqrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI) dl Éflsf alfieMs dy pRDfn Bf[ prmjIq isMG dfKf, gurU gRMQ pRcfr imsn afP (XU[ aYs[ ey) sMsQf dy BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI-bIbI hrismrq kOr KfÜsf, sR primMdr isMG pRvfnf zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl, zf[ hrmn isMG aqy sfQI (kYlyPornIaF) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (knyzf XUint) dy sR[ gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf aqy sfQI (knyzf) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (amrIkf XUint) dy sR[ hrdyv isMG Èyrigwl aqy sfQI, gurmiq pRsfr sBf sYkrfmYNto (kYlyPornIaF) dy pRo[ mwKx isMG, sR[ hfkm isMG, sR[ kMvl isMG aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) gurmiq imÈnrI srkl (kYlyPornIaF) dy sR[ igafn isMG, ipafrf isMG, srbjIq isMG sMDU aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) byby nfnkI sBf (sYkrfmYNto) dy sR[ kyhr isMG-bIbI surjIq kOr aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) sihq sBf sYkrfmYNto dy bIbI mnjIq kOr aqy sihXogI (sYkrfmYNto) Bf[ suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI ByKI qy aKOqI sMq ivroDI PrMt jQybMdI bfbf dIp isMG tksfl phUivMz aqy sfQI (kYlyPornIaF) bfbf nMd isMG aqy mfstr gurbcn isMG (iswK alfieMs) Bf[ aMimRqpfl isMG kQfvfck pRcfrk, aqy sfQI (imÈnrI srkl sYlmF) sR[ jsbIr isMG sfbkf ipMsIpl sfihbËfdf juJfr isMG gurmiq imÈnrI kflj ropV, vfeIs ipRMsIpl Bf[ hrBjn isMG aqy Bf[ amrjIq isMG imÈnrI (amrIkf) bfbf ipafrf isMG sfbkf pRoPYsr iswK imÈnrI kflj bIbIaF (imÈIispI-amrIkf) Bf[ blivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blbIr isMG aqy sfQI (Pirjno imÈnrI srkl) Bf[ suKivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blivMdr isMG (bfltImor imÈnrI srkl) Èbd swcI tksfl dy kYptn jugrfj isMG aqy sfQI, sR[ iekbfl isMG imÈnrI, gurmIq isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (aYl[ ey) sR[ blkfr isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (imÈnrI srkl-ibkrsPIlz) hor bhuq sfry pMQ drdI vIr afidk.

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s[ mwKx isMG jIE,

s[ srjIq isMG sMDU jI df Koj pUrn lyK "sLbd isMG: sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb aqy dsm gRMQ’’ piVHaf hY. KojI ivdvfn ny ñöùù dI vYsfKI qoN pihlF iswK sfihq aqy smfj ivc vrqINdy ies ‘isMG’ sLbd bfry cMgI jfxkfrI idqI hY. sRI gurU hirgoibMd sfihb jI dy smy vI iek rfjpUq iswK, rfm isMG df, gurU jI dy nflL hI AuhnF dy aMgITy ivc jlL jfx df ijLkr vI ieiqhfs ivc afAuNdf hY. dsm gRMQ ivc sRI ikRsLn jI df iksy KVk isMG nfmI pfqr nflL XuD hox df vrnx vI imlLdf hY.

afpxy lyK ivc Auh iek nvy sLbd ‘iewkoE’ dI vrqoN krdy hn jo pihlF kdy vI myry suxn jF pVHn ivc nhI afieaf qy ies qrHF Ausdy arQ df vI mYnUM nhI pqf lwgf. ho sky qF ies nvy sLbd dy arQ df pqf dwsx dI ikrpf krnI qy nflL ieh vI dwsxf ik kI ies nvy sLbd nUM asIN pMjfbI BfsLf dy iswK sfihq dI sLbdfvlI ivc iek mhwqvpUrx vfDf smJIey!

(vYnkUvr/srI, bI[ sI[ knyzf dy rihx vfly inrml isMG klsI ny iek ikqfb ilKI sI, ‘bIj mMqr drsLn’. Aus ivc Aus ny ÃÄ nUM iek EaFkfr pVHn dI QF qy iek E pVHn bfry afpxy vIcfr pRgt kIqy sn. ies bfry ieMtrnYWt qy kfPI crcf ho cuwkI hY. srjIq isMG sMDU Aus dy vIcfrF nfl sihmq hY ies leI Auh akfl purK nUM ‘iekE’ ilKdf hY-sMpfdk)

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Sardar Sahib Manjit Singh ji wrote :"I am neither a historian nor a scholar", but please forgive me for saying that you are not a good reader as well.

What Sardar Gurbaksh Singh KalaAfghana asked was why was Kartarpuri Bir, which is said to be installed in 1604, whose Gurgadhi diwas is celebrated by Sikhs was not captured and destroyed?

In other words, to clarify for all the readers I will summarise it pointwise:

1)Kartarpuri Bir said to be the original copy was not bestowed Guruship by Guru Arjan Sahib in 1604. Guruship was bestowed to Guru Granth Sahib by Guru Gobind Singh ji in 1708, so the 1604 day is a fake and is celebrated to reduce the importance of 1708 and Guru Granth Sahib.

2)Many people have done PhD's on Kartarpuri Bir, people like Pashaura Singh also claims that Guru Arjan Saab even changed the bani written by Guru Nanak.

3)There was no Granth installed in Darbar Sahib in 1604, and it was not known to anyone that any Granth is being compiled by Guru Arjan Sahib, otherwise Mughals would have destroyed it at the same time when they martyred Guru Arjan Saab.

It is my request to all the readers to please provide any source whether English/persian/hindi/urdu/punjabi with its date of writing and publication that claims that so called Kartarpuri Bir was installed by Guru Arjan Sahib in 1604, except Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin.

The oldest source that can be found is "Dabistan-e-Mazhib" by Mohsin Fani in 1644 who was a close friend of Guru Hargobind and Guru Har Rai. He only says that Sikhs consider Guru Hargobind as Guru Nanak and call him by the name of "Mahala 6" and Sikhs consider Guru Nanak as God and sing his poems.

Then Manjit Singh writes:

"In this context, I would like to remind that the Holy Quran was written in present form after the death of Prophet Mohammed."

As Christopher Hitchens says, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", Manjit Singh has not provided any evidence.

I would like to quote from Quran

"All the surahs of the Quran had been recorded in writing before the Prophet's death."(Quran(English Translation),Al-Attique Publishers Inc., Edition 2003, page 23)

To cut short the entire episode, Guruship was bestowed by Guru Gobind Singh ji to "Gyan" or knowledge contained in Guru Granth Sahib. Guru Granth Sahib is same in India, Kartarpur, Canada and internet.

Where is that original Granth, that was bestowed Guruship? Nobody knows.

If someone has proper evidence with dates of writing and publishing please share it through Sikhmarg.com.

Please keep in mind what Michael Shermer says:

"History is a knowledge and like all knowledge it progresses and changes.We continually refine our certainty about claims and that's what historical revisionism is all about.(Shermer, Why  People Believe Weird Things, p179)

Gurpreet Singh Sumra Brampton, Canada

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nUrmihlIaF vloN rojfnF spoksmYn qy kIqy gey ivnfÈkfrI hmly dI jordfr inKyDI

gurU gRMQ sfihb dy ÈrIk ivBcfrI afÈUqoÈ nUrmihlIey aqy AusdIaF sfQI aOrqF vloN pMQk aÉbfr roËfnf spoksmYn qy joXnfbwD qrIky nfl ibprvfdI soc nUM ivky iksy vwzy lIzr dI Èih nfl kIqy gey hmly dI amrIkf knyzf dIaF pMQk jQybMdIaF vloN jordfr inKyDI kIqI jFdI hY aqy akfl qÉq, ÈRomxI kmytI aqy akflI dlF nUM iewk muwT ho ky sOdf sdf vFg ies ivBcfrI dyhDfrI nklI gurU toly ivruwD ztvF stYNz lYNdy hoey iswDf bfeIkft krnf cfhIdf hY. iewh BUqry hoey ByKI sfD afey idn iswK pMQ df koeI nf koeI nvF nuksfn kr rhy hn. sfzy isMG sihbfn ienHF sfDF dy zyiraF qy jfx vfly iswK lIzrF nUM hukmnfmF dy ky ikAuN nhIN rok rhy? kI Auh kiQq sfDF nfl rly hoey hn? jid ik mfVf mot mqByd hox krky jo ivdvfn ienHF ByKI sfDF qy ibprvfdIaF dy Byd KolHdy hoey ilKdy qy boldy hn AunHF nUM Jwt DmkIaF Bry afdyÈ idwqy jFdy hn aqy keIaF nUM pMQ coN hI Cyk idwqf jFdf hY. gurU df vfsqf smuwcy pMQ nUM iekwTy ho ies pMQ doKI toly dy hmly df jordfr ivroD krdy hoey ies aOKy vyly swc dI avfj pMQk aKbfr rojfnf spoksmYn dI zrvIN hmfieq krnI cfhIdI hY jo ieko iewk aKbfr pfKMzI sfDF, cflbfj lIzrF aqy Drm dy nF qy clfey pfKMzF ivruwD inDwVk ho ky ilKdf hY. ieh pRYs qy iswDf hmlf hY bfkI aKbfrF nUM vI ies dI jordfr inKyDI krdy hoey spoksmYn df sfQ dyxf cfhIdf hY ikAuNik kwlH nUM iksy hor aKbfr nfl vI aYsf Bfxf vrq skdf hY. jQydfro! ! ! kwZo hukmnfmF ik koeI iswK aijhy ByKI qy ivBcfrI sfDF dy zyry qy nf jfvy. asIN sfry ies koJI sfiËs dI krVy ÈbdF ivwc inKyDI krdy hoey qy nUr mihlIaF nUM mUMh qoVvF jvfb idMdy hoey rojfnF spoksmYn nfl ctFn vFg KVy hF qy hornF nUM vI KVn dI apIl krdy hF.

roËfnf spoksmYn aÉbfr amrIkf dy pqRkfr sR[ srbjoq isMG svwdI aqy pMQk ivdvfn sR[ iqrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI) dl Éflsf alfieMs dy pRDfn Bf[ prmjIq isMG dfKf, gurU gRMQ pRcfr imsn afP (XU[ aYs[ ey) sMsQf dy BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI-bIbI hrismrq kOr KfÜsf, sR primMdr isMG pRvfnf zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl, zf[ hrmn isMG aqy sfQI (kYlyPornIaF) isMG sfihb Bf[ jgqfr isMG jfick ieMtRnYÈnl pRcfrk aqy sfbkf gRMQI drbfr sfihb (amrIkf) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (knyzf XUint) dy sR[ gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf aqy sfQI (knyzf) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (amrIkf XUint) dy sR[ hrdyv isMG Èyrigwl aqy sfQI, gurmiq pRsfr sBf sYkrfmYNto (kYlyPornIaF) dy pRo[ mwKx isMG, sR[ hfkm isMG, sR[ kMvl isMG aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto)   gurmiq imÈnrI srkl (kYlyPornIaF) dy sR[ igafn isMG, ipafrf isMG, srbjIq isMG sMDU aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) byby nfnkI sBf (sYkrfmYNto) dy sR[ kyhr isMG-bIbI surjIq kOr aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) sihq sBf sYkrfmYNto dy bIbI mnjIq kOr aqy sihXogI (sYkrfmYNto) Bf[ suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI sMq ivroDI PrMt jQybMdI bfbf dIp isMG tksfl phUivMz aqy sfQI (hrkulIs-kYlyPornIaF)   bfbf nMd isMG aqy mfstr gurbcn isMG (iswK alfieMs) Bf[ bKÈIÈ isMG hYWz gRMQI (rIno) Bf[ aMimRqpfl isMG kQfvfck pRcfrk, aqy sfQI (imÈnrI srkl sYlmF) sR[ jsbIr isMG sfbkf ipMsIpl sfihbËfdf juJfr isMG gurmiq imÈnrI kflj ropV, vfeIs ipRMsIpl Bf[ hrBjn isMG aqy Bf[ amrjIq isMG imÈnrI (amrIkf) bfbf ipafrf isMG sfbkf pRoPYsr iswK imÈnrI kflj bIbIaF (imÈIispI-amrIkf) Bf[ blivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blbIr isMG aqy sfQI (Pirjno imÈnrI srkl) Bf[ suKivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blivMdr isMG (bfltImor imÈnrI srkl) Èbd swcI tksfl dy kYptn jugrfj isMG aqy sfQI, sR[ iekbfl isMG imÈnrI, gurmIq isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (aYl[ ey) sR[ blkfr isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (imÈnrI srkl-ibkrsPIlz) hor bhuq sfry imÈnrI aqy pMQ drdI vIr afidk.

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Sardar Sahib ji,

I am neither a historian nor a scholar, but have following to say:

Moghul king could easily proscribe "Kartarpuri Bir", but how could he control the copies which the devoted Sikh had made. How could he capture all the Sikhs, who were remembering most of the "Bani" by heart.

In this context, I would like to remind that the Holy Quran was written in present form after the death of Prophet Mohammed. It was got written by a Caliph more than twenty years latter by collecting a few dozen religious people who had remembered almost all the verses of Quran by heart. A few Arabic scholars were associated in this job to supervise the language and resolve the differences in pronunciation etc.

Had the Moghul king taken away the Holy Bir from Kartarpur, Shabad Guru was their in the hearts of Gursikhs and could be written at any place anywhere by any devout Sikh.

Will of Almighty cannot be changed or challenged. I hope S. Gurbux Singh will understand.

With regards,

A humble Sikh

(Manjit Singh)

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asIN hF-sR[ kfrj isMG sMDU iPlfzYlPIaf, sR[ srbjIq isMG sYkrfmYNto, sR[ qrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI), sR gurcrn isMG brfV ijAuxvflf knyzf, ig[ aMimRqpfl isMG sYlmF (USA) pRo[ mwKx isMG sYkrfmYNto, zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl sYnhojy, ipRMsIpl sR[ jsbIr isMG ropV, BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI aqy bIbI hrismrq kOr Éflsf (USA)

(sMpfdkI not:- asIN ‘iswK mfrg’ qy gurmiq ivroDI lyK Cfpx qoN guryË krdy hF pr jy kr koeI pfTk iksy ilKq nfl sihmq nhIN qF asIN Aus dy ivcfrF nUM pfTkF dy pMinaF ivwc tIkf-itwpxI jF pRsMsf krn leI pUrI QF idMdy hF. ikAuNik ‘iswK mfrg’ qy bhuq sfry lyK dsm gRMQ dy ivroD ivwc lwgy hoey hn ies leI jy kr koeI vI dsm gRMQ df hmfieqI iehnf qy jF Kuwly qOr qy dsm gRMQ qy, gurbfxI aqy dlIl dy aDfr qy aqy cMgI ÈbdfvlI ivwc ivdvfnf nfl vIcfr-vtFdrf krnf cfhy qF asIN ‘iswK mfrg’ vloN Auhnf nUM jI afieaF kihMdy hF. ieh vIcfr vtFdrf pMjfbI ivwc hovygf aqy nwQI PfeIl vrz zokUmYNt jF afr tI aYWP POrmYt ivwc hoxI cfhIdI hY)

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Guru Granth Sahib in relation to Ram

It is rightly said that word 'Ram' is repeatedly used more than 2533 times in Guru Granth Sahib. The Learned scholar admits that mostly 'Ram' is symbolic for God exists everywhere i.e. word 'Ram' is frequently mentioned by Gurus in 'Sri Guru Granth Sahib' though symbolically in place of the Supreme Lord-God except in reference as under:

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nfnk inrBAu inrMkfru hoir kyqy rfm rvfl ]

kyqIaF kMnH khfxIaF kyqy byd ibcfr ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 464)

pfzy qumrf rfm cMd so BI afvqu dyiKaf ]

rfvx syqI srbr hoeI Gr kI jie gvfeI QF ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 875)

rovY rfm inkflf Bieaf ]

sIqf lKmxu ivCuiV gieaf ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 953)

rfm JurY dl mylvY aMqrI blu aiDkfr ]

bMqr kI sYnf syvIaY min qin juJu apfr ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 1412)

mn mih JurY rfm cMd sIqf lCmx jogu ]

hxvMqru afrfiDaf afieaf kir sMjogu ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 1412)

rfm gieE rfvnu gieE jf kAu bhu prvfru ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 1428)

rfmu rfmu krqf sB jgu iPrY, rfm nf pfieaf jfie ]

agmu agocru aiq vzf aqul nf quilaf jfie ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 555)

kbIr rfm kihn mih Bydu hY qf mih eyku bIcfru ]

soeI rfm sBY kihh soeI kAukqhfr ] (grU gRMQ sfihb, sPLf 1374)

I have nothing to contradict him but like to point out that sometimes a common man like me take help from the knowledge, story or belief of a simpleton, villager, whatever he already knows, believes to be true to make him to understand law etc though I personally do not normally agree to his possessed knowledge or story and belief. It is always good and easy to make a person understand an intricate problem in his own language and living sphere not in isolation.

I have seen excellent Judgments or findings of Canadian authorities to know the actual intention of the parties in reference to some documents like adoption deed etc prepared in India under Indian Law though the law is neither valid nor applicable in Canada but the authorities never deliver any judgment or give findings on such document by referring Canadian Law and the ground realities prevailing in similar circumstances therein.

For Sikhs, Guru Granth Sahib is supreme and justifying the interpretation of 'Ram' in the context of above explanations may be of disliking for many considering it as contempt. If it really appears so, I be pardoned but as far I gathered knowledge from scholars and persons possess knowledge in depth that Gurbani in Guru Granth Sahib is in question-answer form for the well being and spiritual enlightenment of all.

In my opinion, Gurus must have listened layman's story and belief regarding 'Ram', 'Sita', 'Lachhman', 'Ravan' etc imaginary actors and heroes and answered him to discard the stories of living 'gods' in the manner enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib as quoted otherwise their existence in so old age and time is rightly doubted and questioned.

Everybody is free to disown, contradict, correct or elaborate my views on the subject; I shall have no objection to it.

Submission by

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
Chief and Spokesperson
Sikh Vichar Manch

September 24, 2007

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Prof. Tarlochan Singh Mahajan ji,
Guru Fateh,

You wrote that today people are like Amrinder Singh, who question everything and ask for proofs. People who are open minded will always ask questions about what they hear or see. When Guru Nanak refused to wear Janeu, did he not question the Pundit? When Guru Nanak gave water to the opposite direction of the sun, was he not defying and questing Brahimins? In many of your responses you say read Gurbani and it will answer your questions. I could not agree with you more, but have you not read Sidh Ghost? Isn’t Sidh Ghost all about Nanak’s debate with Sidhs? Guru Nanak has taught us to question and not simply believe what we are told.

Along the same lines, you write that some people are questing Nanak. Neither Gurcharan Singh Brar nor I questioned Guru Nanak; we have simply questioned you to have a nice discussion. Are you claiming to be Nanak or is your argument logically flawed with the Straw Man fallacy?

You have made another great point that we will get nothing out of this discussion. First, Brar asked you if there is Punar Janam and you responded by bringing in Einstein and his theories. When I responded with science, you say people are questioning Nanak. However, you should have brought Nanak when answering Brar’s original questions, as he had asked you.

In your previous letter you mentioned that Nature does not want us to understand it. I answered by saying that is simply incorrect because Physics is the science of nature. You are reading this letter on a computer over the internet. Was the computer given to us by Akal Purkh or did someone develop it by understanding electricity? So in your second letter, you have completely changed the argument. Now you are claiming that we can’t put a limit to Akal Purkah’s creation. No doubt this creation is endless, but that does not prevent us from understanding nature. Understanding nature isn’t figuring out how everything works in an instant. It is long process that improves every day. We may not understand all of it, but every day we are making great strides. If you claim nature is preventing us from understanding it, then why are you a physicist?

You mentioned about suffering like a fish. Why do we need to suffer like a fish? I think knowing why a fish suffers is a better question relating with science.

Why does it matter if one scientist says one thing while the other says another? Are scientists God that they can never be wrong?

Let’s discuss about honey bees. My dad was a beekeeper in Punjab. Nature has made honey bees. Honey is its food, it is not meant for us. However, when we understand the law of the nature by which bees run, we know what honey is and what its benefits are. Now we know honey has fructose, sucrose, and more than eighty other nutrients that our body needs in roughly same ratio that we have in our system. Not only bees give us honey, they also give pollen, beeswax, royal jelly and venom from the sting. However, the most important use of bees is for pollination to improve quality and yield. But how did we discover all this? How do we know what honey contains? Did bees tell us that?

Prof. Mahajan, it is because someone understood electricity and how it can be used to send data is allowing us to have this discussion. Otherwise, you are in India I am in the U.S. and we would have never known each other. Akal Purk has given us matter and ability to reason. We find a use for what is given to us. For example, Uranium is big issue today. We did not make Uranium, but we can use it to produce electrify or we can use it to destroy civilizations.

Just as you are busy worrying about your son, my University will also start this week. So lastly, I have only question to ask you, is physics the science of nature or not? If not, than what is it? What do you teach in your classes?

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qrlocn isMG jI,

quhfzy lyK bhuq hI jfxkfrI BrpUr huMdy hn ijvyN ik rMgF aqy blYk holj bfry lyK, gurbfxI aqy ivigafn dI rLoÈnI ivwc ies qrF df ilKdy rho. koeI vI iensfn eynf hI bol/ilK skdf hY, ijMnIN Aus nUM rwb ny smJ bKÈI hY, hryk dy afpxy igafn/smJ muqfibk ivcfr hn.

s: suKivMdr isMG sBrf jI,

qusI bhuq imhnq kIqI hY aqy kr rhy ho iswKI dy nfm hyT afeIaF kurIqIaF nUM lokF sfhmxy ilafAux aqy dUr krn leI, rwb quhnUM aqy quhfzy vrgI soc vfilaF nUM hor Audm dyvy. rwb mfP kry pr mYN afp asUqoÈ dI cylI nUM kihMidaF suixaF hY ik lok hËUr sfihb ikAN jFdy hn jdoN ik gurU goibMd isMG qF nUrmihl bYTy hn, pfT kIiqaF kdy roÈnI nhIN huMdI BUq BFvyN ids pYx, ies Xuwg df avqfr asUqoÈ hI hY. inrol iswKI dy pRcfr dI awj sB qoN vwzI loV hY.

sRomxI kmytI dy mulfËmF nUM qF qnKfh df hI mqlb hY, kfr syvf vfly bfby mfieaf ivwc msq hn, awj pMjfb dIaF sVkF qy pRfeIvyt bwsF qoN bfad swB qoN vwD Kqrnfk zrfeIivMg bfibaF dIaF gwzIaF dI hI hY. iewk vfr iewk kfr syvf dI gwzI dy zrfievr jo ik bhuq CotI Aumr df sI ny mYNnUM dwisaf ik bfibaF dI gwzI clfAux leI zrfeIivMg lfiesYNs dI jrUrq nhIN huMdI, jykr iksy nUM gwzI hyTF dy ky mfr dyvo dy jvfb ivwc Aus anjfx zrfievr ny ikhf ik iPr bfby pYsy dy ky rfËInFvF kr lYNdy hn, jykr koeI pYsy nF lvy qF Aus ielfky dIaF pMcfieqF rFhIN mrn vfilaF dy GrvfilaF qy dbfa pfieaf jFdf hY, ÈrDf aqy srfp dI gwl kIqI jFdI hY, puils nUM pysy dy idwqy jFdy hn, kys vI bfby hI ijwqdy hn. rwb sfzI kOm qy imhr kry.

bljIq isMG.

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qrlocn isMG (mhfjn)

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mYN jdoN quhfzf pRym Biraf Kq pVHnf ÈurU kIqf, mYnUM ligaf ik ieh mYN pihlF piVaf hoieaf hY. kfPI soc ivcfr kIqI, qF iewk dm iKafl afieaf E ho ieh qF myrI afpxI ilKq hY. qusF cMgf kIqf, afpUM kuwJ vI nf kihMdy hoey vI sB kuwJ kih gey. mYN quhfzI isafxp dI qfrIP krdf hF. mYN iKmF Xfcnf krdf hF qF jo qusF myrf ÈIÈf hI mYnUM idKf idqf. dyrI dy kfrn sn (1) mYN puqr nUM trFto leI jhfj qy ibTf qF idqf pr iPr icMqf ik Auh rhygf ikQy? kMm kI krygf? kflj ikvyN jfvygf? ieq afid (2) amirMdr isMG jI dy ivcfr pV ky duK hoieaf. iPr aMdr vfvrolo AuTdy rhy AunHF vfvroilaF ny mYnUM rok idqf ik nhIN ‘mhfjn’ ienHF bihsF ivwc nf pE, ienHf df nqIjf koeI suKfvF nhIN huMdf, aj dunIaf amirMdr isMG horF dI hY. ijQy hr gl nUM nfipaf qoilaf jFdf hY. hr gl dy sbUq mMgy jFdy hn. koeI gurU nfnk dyv jI qoN sbUq mMgdf hY koeI ivigafnIaF koloN. koeI sbdF dy ivafkrx df jvfb mMgdf hY qy koeI …………………………. KYr quhfzI icTI (myrI afpxI) jdoN mYN afpxy vfvroilaF nUM pV ky suxfeI qF Auh kuwJ sFq ho gey, qy myrIaF AuglF iPr afp-muhfry kI borz qy clx lgIaF.

amirMdr isMG jI ivigafnIaF aqy ivigafn qoN byhwd pRBfivq hn. rwb dy pI[ ey nUM nkfrdy hn AunHF nUM hYrfnI hoeI myrf iliKaf ieh pV ky "kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI, ik qusI ieh sB kuwJ smJo. kudrq Ausy qrHF hI cfhuMdI hY ijvyN qusI soc rhy ho. kudrq cfhuMdI hY ik qusIN AunHF plF nUM socy ijs ivwc qusI ies smyN sfh lY rhy ho". ijQy gurcrn isMG jI nUM ieh sqrF afpf ivroDI lg rhIaF hn AuQy amirMdr isMG jI ieÈfrf kr rhy hn ky mnuwK kudrq dy rhwsF qo prdf htFdf clf jfeygf.

amirMdr isMG jI, ivigafnIaF nUM kho ky Auh mwCI vFgUM qVPx qF sfied AunHF nUM kudrq dI smJ af sky. nhIN vIrf myiraf iPr vI nhIN afeygI, ikAuNik ieh jpujI sfihb df Purmfx hY

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eyhu aMqu nf jfxY koie] bhuqf khIaY, bhuqf hoie]

kdI vyiKaf mkVI df jflf. ies jfly nUM vyK ky vwzy qoN vwzy buxqIkfr vI dMg rih jFdf hY. mYnUM nhIN smJ afeI ik ieh ikhVI pRogÈflf qoN tRyinMg lYNdIaF hn?

Èihd dI mwKI ikhVI bfeotYknflojI dI lYb ivcoN tRyinMg lYNdI hY Èihd bxfAux dI jfc isKx leI?

isMbl df drKq afpxy bIjF duafly rUeIN lpytdf hY qF jo Auh bIj Auzx aqy AuQy jf izgx ijQy jmIn qy koeI hor vwzf drwKq nf hoey qF jo Aus dy Auh bIj AuQy vwD Pul skx, ieh ijhI isafxp AunHF kol ikQoN af rhI hY.

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iPr qusI ikvyN smJ skdy ho ik kudrq ny quhfzy idmfg ivwc Auh sB kuwJ pf idqf hY ijs nfl kudrq jF pRmfqmf df aMq qusIN jfx sko.

jo iewk ivigafnI aj kihMdf hY Ausy nUM dujf ivigafnI bdl idMdf hY. ikAuN?

ikAuN aj ivigafn iewk pfrtIkl nUM vyv aqy iewk vyv nUM pfrtIkl kr ky jfxn lgf hY jd ky ieh dovyN iblkul vwK vwK hn.

gurcrn isMG jI qusIN qF gurbfxI dy rsIaf ho. gurbfxI df hvfly dyx dI quhfnUM loV nhIN. jnm jnmF df isDFq quhfnUM jldI hI iml jfvygf. gurbfxI dy arQ afpxy idmfg nfl nf krnf. gurbfxI pVdy hoey afpxI afqmf nUM puCxf. jy afqmf nf boly qF iPr puCxf qy jy iPr vI nf boly qF iPr puCxf. aOr puCdy cly jfxf jd ky jvfb nf imly. qy jdoN jvfb imlygf qF quhfzI dunIaf bdl jfeygI. iPr nf svfl rihxgy nf jvfb. nf koeI cMgf hovygf nf koeI mMdf. nf koeI dosq hoeygf nf koeI dusmx. iewk asIm ÈFqI psr jfeygI cohIN pfsI. iewk aijhI ÈFqI ijhVI scmuc sFq hoeIgI. koeI rolf rpf nhIN. koeI Jmylf nhIN. koeI pRÈn nhIN. koeI Auqr nhIN. bs ÈFq hI ÈFq. ies qoN agy iPr hor kuwJ nhIN………………………………

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s: gurcrn isMG jI, quhfzy svfl df jvfb nhIN afieaf. mYnUM vI jigafsf sI jvfb jfxn dI, pr pUrI nhIN hoeI. hr mnuK dy jIvn ivwc inq nvyN svfl pYdf huMdy hn. ijhVy svfl hl ho jfx AunHF leI mnuwK nUM sFqI imldI hY. ijnHF svflF dy Auqr nhIN imldy Auho ijhy axsulJy svfl pRsLn icn bx KUb rolf-rwpf pfAuNdy hn aqy mnuwK nUM asFq krdy rihMdy hn. ienHf nUM vI hl krnf jrUrI huMdf hY. ivdvfnF nUM cfhIdf hY ik AunHF dI lyKxI aijhI hovy ijs ivwc svfl vI hox aqy jvfb vI. aj smwisaf ieh hY ik jy iewk svfl hl huMdf idsdf hY qF ds svfl hor af juVdy hn. asl ivwc mnuKI ijMdgI afpUM hI iewk bhuq vwzf svfl hY, ijs nUM hl krn leI ivdvfn jI-qoV koisLsLF krdy hn pr ieh iPr vI hl nhIN huMdf. mnuwK nUM cfhIdf sI srl hoxf. AunHF dI idK srl huMdI. AunHF df pihrfvf srl huMdf. AunHF df Kfxf pIxf srl huMdf. AunHF dI lyKxI srl huMdI. AunHF dy afrtIkl srl huMdy qF iPr svfl vI srl huMdy aqy AunHF dy jvfb idqy jf skdy sn.

clo! pRo mhfjn jI dI mrjI, asI AunHF nUM mjbUr QoVo kr skdy hf jbfb dyx leI.

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rijMdr isMG Éflsf: (Kflsf pMcfieq)

mYN smJdf hF ik zyrfvfd dy nF qy lVI jf rhI ies lVfeI dI sfrI idÈf hI glq ho geI hY. lVfeI zyrfvfd dy isstm dy iKlfP hY, nf ik kuwJ ivakqIaF iKlfP. pr asIN kuwJ ivakqIaF ƒ inÈfnf bxf ilaf hY aqy afpxf asl tIcf Buwl gey hF. imsfl dy qOr qy ÈRomxI kmytI df pRDfn ieh ibafn idMdf hY ik pMjfb ivwc zyiraF dy iKlfP muihMm clfeI jfvygI pr dUjy pfsy srdfr pRkfÈ isMG bfdl BYxI sfihb jfky nfmDfrI sMsQf dy muKI ƒ mwQf tykdy hn aqy AunHF ƒ siqgurU kihMdy hn. ieh hux bfdl dwsx ik AunHF dy siqgurU sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb hn jF koeI hor. jF ies bfry ÈRomxI kmytI dy pRDfn koeI cfnxf pf skdy hn. myry kihx df mqlb hY ik jy zyrfvfd dy iKlfP lVfeI lVnI hY qF smuwcy zyrfvfd dy iKlfP lVo. nhIN qF iksy vI kMZy nhIN lwgFgy. ies bfry mYN iewk hor imsfl dyxI cfhuMdf hF. iswKF df pihlf tkrfa inrMkfrI sMprdf nfl hoieaf sI. inrMkfrIaF dy iKlfP pMQ aMdr bVf vwzf guwsf pYdf hoieaf. iewQoN qwk ik inrMkfrI sMprdf dy muKI ƒ mfr idwqf igaf.

mYN puwCxf cfhuMdf hF ik ies df awj iswtf kI inkilaf? kI inrMkfrIaF dy muKI ƒ mfrn nfl inrMkfrI lihr Kqm ho geI? kI Aus qoN bfad lokF ny inrMkfrIaF dy zyiraF ivwc jfxf bMd kr idwqf? kI AunHF dI igxqI Gt geI? kI ies nfl pMjfb ivwc zyiraF df pnpxf bMd ho igaf? kI ies nfl pMjfb ivwc zyrfvfd ƒ koeI swt vwjI? jy inrMkfrIaF df muKI mfrn nfl zyrfvfd dy iKlfP lVfeI ijwqI jfxI huMdI qF dubfrf kdy nUrmihlIaF dI aqy kdy swcy sOdy vfilaF dI smwisaf pYdf nhIN sI hoxI.

myrf kihxf df mqlb hY ik sfzf lVn df qrIkf glq hY. asIN zyrfvfd dy isstm iKlfP lVn dI bjfey kuwJ ivakqIaF ƒ inÈfnf bxf lYNdy hF. ijs df aKIr iswtf koeI nhIN inkldf. mYN vI ÈurU ivwc Aus Kflsf aYkÈn kmytI df mYNbr sF, ijhVI zyrf swcf sOdf dy iKlfP lVn leI bxfeI geI sI. pr mYN dyiKaf ik Aus kmytI ivwc koeI 20 dy krIb ivakqI zyiraF vfly sn. ies krky mYN Aus kmytI qoN vwK ho igaf. ijs kmytI ivwc Kud zyrydfrF dI Brmfr hovy qF Auh kmytI Blf ikvyN zyrfvfd dy iKlfP lV skdI hY? ies krky zyrf swcf sOdf dy iKlfP jo lVfeI hY, ieh smuwcy zyrfvfd dy iKlfP lVfeI hY, jy ies ƒ kwlI iewk zyry dy iKlfP lVfeI bxf idwqf jfvygf qF ieh afpxy asl inÈfny qoN Btk jfvygI.

ijwQo qwk sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb dy siqkfr dI gwl hY. Aus bfry vI mYN afpxf iewk qËrbf dwsxf cfhuMdf hF. zyiraF ivwc sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb rwKx ivruD muihMm sB qoN pihlF asIN Kflsf pMcfieq vwloN ÈurU kIqI sI. ies muihMm qihq sfzf ieh qËrbf hoieaf ik jdoN asIN keI aijhIaF QfvF qy gey qF AunHF sfƒ ikhf ik jy qusIN sfƒ sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb nhIN rwKx dyxf qF asIN rmfiex rwK lYNdy hF. asIN ies qoN bfad afpxI muihMm bfry nvyN isry qoN soicaf ik ikqy asIN ies nfl iswKI df Blf krdy krdy nuksfn nf kr deIey. iehI gwl mYN mflvy ivwc kuwJ jQybMdIaF duafrf clfeI jf rhI muihMm bfry khFgf ik ikqy Auh iesy qrIky nfl koeI Pfiedf socdy socdy Aultf nuksfn qF nhI krvf rhy. ijvyN ik iewk Kbr suxI sI ik iksy zyrf pRymI dy Gr imrqk df pfT krvfAux leI sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb nhIN idwqf igaf qF Aus ny mjbUrn gruV purfx df pfT krvf ilaf. ienHF gwlF qo sfƒ sbk iswKxf cfhIdf hY qy dUr dI socxI cfhIdI hY. iewk hor gwl mYN kihxf cfhFgf ik keI lok iswKI dy nF qy vI zyrfvfd PYlf rhy hn. ieh lok isrP aMimRq CkfAux ƒ hI iswKI df pRcfr smJdy hn. ies gwl dI AunHF ƒ koeI pRvfh nhIN ik aMimRq Ck ky lokF dy ikrdfr ivwc koeI Prk ipaf ik nhIN. Auh isrP afpxI igxqI vDfAux leI vwD qoN vwD lokF ƒ aMimRq CkfeI jf rhy hn. ieh aMimRq Ck ky awgy kI krdy hn, ies dI kdy pRvfh nhIN krdy. ipCly idnIN aKbfrF ivwc do KbrF pVHIaF. iewk Kbr sI, ijs ivwc irÈvq lYNdf iewk ptvfrI PiVaf idKfieaf igaf. Aus ptvfrI ny kmIË dy AuproN gfqrf pfieaf hoieaf sI. iesy qrF iewk Kbr PgvfVy qoN CpI ijs ivwc iqMn gRMQI lokF ny Èrfb pINdy pkVy sn. AunHF ny AuproN gfqry pfey sn aqy nfl Èrfb dIaF boqlF KulHIaF peIaF sn. iswK zyiraF vfly sMq lokF ƒ aijhf aMimRqpfn krvf rhy hn. iesy krky zyrfvfd dy iKlfP koeI asl muihMm nhI cwl rhI.

iesy krky mYN kihMdf hF ik zyrfvfd dy iKlfP lVfeI iksy ƒ zrf Dmkf ky nhIN ijwqI jf skdI. lokF ƒ ipafr nfl smJf ky vfips ilaFdf jf skdf hY pr ieh kMm vI Auh lok kr skdy hn, ijnHF df afpxf ikrdfr shI hovy aqy ijnHF kol iswKI df pUrn igafn hovy. ijhVy afp zyrydfr hox, Auh lokF ƒ zyrfvfd ivwcoN ikvyN kwZ skdy hn. loV hY pVHy ilKy aqy AuWc ikrdfr dy mflk pRcfrkF dI. ijhVy ipMz ipMz jf ky afpxy igafn aqy ikrdfr nfl lokF df idl ijwq lYx.

(DMnvfd sihq dysL syvk ivcoN)

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siqkfr Xog sMpfdk jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

ÈRomxI kmytI ivloN iswK Drm dI ihMdI ivwc ilKvfeI geI ikqfb ‘iswK ieiqhfs’ bfry aKbfr spoksmYn aqy vYb sfeIt ‘iswK mfrg zft kom’ `qy pVHn ky hYrfnI hoeI ik, ikvyN iswK Drm df pRcfr krn dI Ëumyvfr sMsQf hI iswK Drm ƒ Kqm krn dI koiÈÈ kr rhI hY. ieh ikvyN ho skdf hY ik ieh ikqfb ƒ iqafr krn dI sfjÈ vfilaF ivwc Drm pRcfr kmytI ihwsydfr nf hovy? kI aijhy iswK aKvfAux vfilaF ƒ rwqf Br vI ieh aihsfs nhIN hY ik asIN iswK Drm ƒ pYisaF jF ahuidaF dy lflc ivwc Kqm krn dI koiÈs rhy hF? kI ies GnfAuxI hrkq dI Drm pRcfr kmytI, ÈRomxI akflI dl dy pRDfn aqy ÈRomxI kmytI dy pRDfn Ëumyvfr nhIN hn? ijhVy-ijhVy vI iswK ivakqI ies ikqfb ƒ iqafr krn qy pYsy lYx-dyx ivwc Èfml hn kI AunHF vwloN kIqf ieh kMm iswK Drm pRqI aikRqGxqf dI hwd nhIN hY?

kI aijhy iswKF ƒ sRI akfl qKq sfihb qy swdky pMQ ivwcoN Cykxf nhIN cfhIdf?

kI ijhnF iswKF aqy mIzIey vfilaF ny ies iswK Drm ivroDI ikqfb df prdf pfÈ kIqf hY AunHF sfiraF ƒ sRI akfl qKq sfihb bulf ky snmfnq nhIN krnf cfhIdf?

jykr iswK ieMË hI Drm aqy ieiqhfs pRqI suqy rihxgy qF aijhIaF ikqfbF iswK ivroDIaF vwloN vfr-vfr CupfeIaF jFdIaF rihxgIaF. ijvyN pihlF 1999 eI: ivwc ieQoN dI hI Drm pRcfr kmytI ny ‘gur iblfs pfqÈfhI CyvIN’ dy nFa hyT gurmiq ivroDI ikqfb CpfeI hoeI hY.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl, knyzf

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gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI

‘iswK ieiqhfs’ pusqk dy ivvfd qoN bfd

hux ÈRomxI kmytI dy gurmiq isKlfeI kYNpF ivwc gRMQI isMGF nUM gurmiq ivroDI pusqkF pVHx dI vkflq

pMQk jQybMdIaF ny ies aKOqI ivdvfn nUM pMQ ivcoN Cykx dI mMg kIqI.

kpUrQlf 15 sqMbr (gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI, ikrxpRIq kOr BftIaf) lokqMiqRk isstm rfhIN ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI nUM iswK pMQ ny afpxI numfieMdf jmfq bxf ky ies kmytI nUM pfvn gurDfmF df pRbMD krn aqy iswKI pRcfr df ijMmf sONipaf hoieaf hY. pr smyN dI qor dy nfl ies kmytI Aupr kfbj isafsqdfnF ny iswKI pRcfr vfly pfisEN iDafn htf ky afpxIaF isafsI rotIaF sykxIaF ÈurU kr idwqIaF hn. ies ijMmyvfr iswK sMsQf dy mYNbrF bfry iswK hlikaF ivwc iewk iKafl bVf cricq irhf hY ik iewk akflI jQydfrF leI ivDfn sBf jF pfrlImYNt dI mYNbrI qoN pihlF ÈRomxI kmytI df mYNbr bxnf qF iewk isafsI kYrIar dI ÈurUafq hY. vfkeI awiDEN bhuqy ÈRomxI kmytI mYNbrF dI tyk ies vkq gurduafrf pRbMD dI mOjUdf ijMmyvfrI inBfAux dI bjfey ies mYNbrI qoN agFh isafsI ipV dI supnmeI dunIaF ivwc hI smfeI hoeI hY. ijs kfrx iswK kOm Dfrimk pwDr qy afey BfrI inGfr kfrx ipCly kuwJ sflF qoN nfmoÈI sihx kr rhI hY. iesy kfrx hI iswK icMqkF dy AuWdm nfl pRcfr dy ies Kwpy nUM pUiraF krn leI isMG sBfvF, susfietIaF aqy Dfrimk sMsQfvF hoNd ivwc afeIaF hn. ijhnF ny afpo afpxy ivwq anusfr pRcfr dy Kyqr ivwc bxdf Xogdfn pfieaf hY. hr glI muhwly aqy ipMzF ivclIaF ieho ijhIaF Dfrimk sMsQfvF duafrf kIqy jf rhy Auprfly nUM jykr mnPI kr idwqf jfvy qF ÈRomxI kmytI df Drm pRcfr Kyqr ivwc Xogdfn iewkdm nMgf ho jfvygf.

ÈRomxI kmytI df Dfrimk ivMg, ijsnUM ‘Drm pRcfr kmytI’ krky jfixaf jFdf hY, df avyslfpn qF spoksmYn dy pfTk pihlF hI dyK cuwky hn, jdoN ies duafrf CfpI geI ‘iswK ieiqhfs’ pusqk bfry scfeI aKbfrF ivwc sfhmxy ilaFdI geI. hr pMQ drdI mihsUs kr irhf sI ik jykr ‘Drm pRcfr kmytI’ vloN pRcfr ihwq CfpIaF pusqkF df ieh hfl hY ik Aus ivwc gurU sihbfn bfry AUl jlUl BfÈf vrq ky sfKIaF nUM glq rUp idwqf igaf hY qF inwjI pRkfÈkF dIaF pusqkF ijhnF bfry aksr iÈkfieqF afAuNdIaF rihMdIaF hn, AuhnF bfry kfrvfeI kOx krygf? ? ? ? ? ? aPsos nfl ilKxf pY irhf hY ik ÈRI akfl qKq sfihb bfry sMgqF ivwc ieh pRclq ho cuwkf hY ik iewQy afAux vflI hr iÈkfieq qy koeI kfrvfeI krn qoN pihlF isafsqdfnF dI mnjUrI leI jFdI hY. ijs krky hfkm pfrtI jF Ausdy BfeIvflF vloN jdoN koeI pMQ ivroDI kfrvfeI huMdI hY qF sfzy jQydfr sfihb afpxy mUMh ivwc GuMgxIaF pf lYNdy hn. ies sfry vrqfry df iswK sMgqF Aupr kI asr pYNdf hY, kdy iksy ny pRvfh nhIN kIqI.

clo Dfrimk pusqkF dy pRkfÈn ivwc Drm pRcfr kmytI dI Gor axgihlI smJ ivwc af skdI hY, pr hux iewk hor qwQ aijhf sfhmxy afieaf hY ijs qoN spwÈt huMdf hY ik ÈRomxI kmytI df asl mnorQ kI hY? Dfrimk pusqkF ivwc glq sfKIaF df rlyvF aYNvy hI nhIN ho igaf. drasl ies ipwCy ÈRomxI kmytI ivwc GuspYT kr cuwky kuwJ pMQ doKIaF dI gihrI sfijÈ hI ies leI ijMmyvfr hY.

iesdf pRqwK sbUq Aus vyly imilaf, jdoN ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI vloN kpUrQlf dy styt gurduafrf sfihb ivKy Drm pRcfrk gRMQI isMGF dI isKlfeI leI lgfey gey kYNp ivwc aMimRqsr qoN ivÈyÈ qOr qy bulfey gey iewk aKOqI ivdvfn, jo ik ienkm tYks df vkIl hox dy nfl nfl iewk mYgjIn df sMpfdk vI hY, ny gRMQI isMGF nUM rihq mirafdf bfry lYkcr kridaF aijhf BMbl BUsy ivwc pfieaf ik Auh ivcfry gurmiq isKlfeI kYNp ivwc kuwJ iswKx dI bjfey duibDf ivwc pY gey hn. drasl ies aKOqI ivdvfn vloN iswK pRcfrkF nUM pVHx leI suJfeIaF geIaF pusqkF lMby smyN qoN iswK pMQ ivwc ivvfdgRsq rhIaF hn, pr iesny Èryafm gRMQI isMGF nUM siqkfrXog BgqF bfry krfmfqI mnGVq sfKIaF nfl BrpUr ikqfb ‘Bgq mflf’, iswK gurU sihbfnF pRqI apmfnjnk ÈbdfvlI vflI ‘siqafrQ pRkfÈ’ aqy aÈlIl koJIaF khfxIaF vflI `cirwqro-piKafn’ pVHx dI slfh idwqI. pr Aus vyly qF hwd hI ho geI, jdoN ies aKOqI ivdvfn ny afpxy dfiery qoN bfhr jFidaF gRMQI isMGF nUM slfh dy mfrI ik Auh iswK imÈnrI kflj dIaF pusqkF df mukMml bfeIkft krn. ikAuNik ieh imÈnrI kflj gurbfxI qoN Ault pRcfr kr irhf hY. dsm gRMQ dIaF aÈlIl kQfvF ivwc aMnHy hoey ies aKOqI ivdvfn ny iswK imÈnrI ivdvfnF aqy hor pRmuwK ivdvfnF Aupr vI ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI hfjrI ivwc koJy hmly krn qoN guryj nhIN kIqf. ijhVy gRMQI isMG ies kYNp ivwc kuwJ iswKx dI AumMg lY ky hfjrI Br rhy sn, ny rojfnf spoksmYn dy ies pwqrkfr nUM sfry vrqfry dI jfxkfrI idMidaF ikhf ik ies kYNp ivwc BfeI hrjIq isMG pRcfrk aqy jsivMdr isMG ÈhUr vrgy nfmI pRcfrkF dI imhnq qy ies aKOqI ivdvfn ny pfxI Pyr idwqf hY. AuhnF suafl kIqf ik ieho ijhy aKOqI ivdvfnF nUM bulf ky ÈRomxI kmytI sfnUM kI isKfAuxf cfhuMdI hY?

drasl ipCly kuwJ arsy qoN pMjfb ivwc af ky ies aKOqI ivdvfn ny ÈRomxI kmytI jF iesdy mfqihq jQydfrF Aupr aijhf jfdU kIqf hY ik iesdIaF copVIaF gwlF nUM hI sfzy anpVH jQydfr aqy gurDfmF Aupr kfbj isafsqdfn gurmiq smJ bYTy hn. ies vloN dsm gRMQ ivclIaF aÈlIl rcnfvF nUM gurbfxI dy brfbr drsf ky jo vwty pMQ dIaF byVIaF ivwc pfey gey hn, Aus ny iswK kOm df aQfh nuksfn hI kIqf hY. ieMnf hI nhIN, ies vloN qKq sihbfnF dy mOjUdf syvfdfrF nUM gumrfh krky iswK ivdvfnF aqy sMpfdkF nUM Cykx vrgy kukrm krn leI mjbUr kIqf hY. iswK pMQ nUM grk krn ivwc lwgy ies aKOqI ivdvfn nUM afpxy ies imÈn ivwc kyvl iswK imÈnrI vIr hI rukfvt bxy idKfeI idwqy hn, jo ik inrMqr isDFqk pRcfr nfl iswKI dy bUty nUM isMjx dI afpxI ijMmyvfrI inBf rhy hn.

pr ÈRomxI kmytI nUM afKr kI loV pY geI ik ies nfmvr pMQ ivhUxy aKOqI ivdvfn nUM bulf ky Aus koloN gRMQI isMGF nUM nsIhqF krvfeIaF jfx. sQfnk pMQk afgUaF BfeI suirMdr isMG Tykydfr, mohn isMG BIlf, AuWjl isMG, hrnyk isMG, hrpRIq isMG, hrivMdr isMG DMjl, BfeI svrn isMG mTfVU, jspfl isMG qoN ielfvf ÈRI akfl shfie susfietI dy ieMj: gurmIq isMG, suKbIr isMG DMdoeI aqy akflI dl aMimRqsr dy hrdyv isMG ny qKq sfihb dy muwK syvfdfrF nUM bynqI kIqI hY ik ies aKOqI ivdvfn dIaF iswK sMsQfvF bfry glq itwpxIaF aqy pMQ ivroDI ikqfbF pVHx dI vkflq krn krky iesnUM iswK pMQ ivcoN qurMq Kfrj kIqf jfvy, nhIN qF ieh aKOqI ivdvfn afpxIaF kfrvfeIaF nfl iswK pMQ dIaF byVIaF ivwc aijhy vwty pf dyvygf ik iswK kOm dI hoNd bcfAuxI hI muÈkl ho jfvygI. iehnF jQybMdIaF ny ÈRomxI kmytI nUM vI slfh idwqI hY ik ‘iswK ieiqhfs’ pusqk dy ivvfd qoN bfd hor nmoÈI qoN bwcx leI Auh ieho ijhy aKOqI ivdvfnF nUM qurMq nwQ pfvy. ÈRomxI kmytI nUM iswKF ivwc afpxy aks nUM suDfrx leI ieho ijhy aKOqI ivdvfnF qoN dUrI bxfAuxI hovygI.

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pRBjIq isMG Dvn

Prabhjit Singh Dhawan
Saturday, September 15, 2007

A book in hindi named "Sikh Etihaas" was released by the Secretary of the Dharam Prachar Committee(SGPC) Amritsar earlier this month. The contents of this book contain disrespect and disgraceful writings on the Sikh Gurus.

I, Prabhjit Singh Dhawan, Technical Director of Al-Omran Group of Companies in Dubai was deeply hurt to hear of such disrespect to our Gurus, which state the 6^th Guru as abductor of girl, the 9^th Guru as a thief and the 10^th Guru a coward worshiper of Devi. I was pleased to know that Akal Takhat Jathedar Vedantee, is coming to Dubai which give us an opportunity to have a face to face talk with him on the current Panthic matter concerning the release of "Sikh History" book in hindi by Saromany Gurdwara Parbandak Commetee.

We, the Sikh Sangat of Dubai, tried to take a meeting appointment through the individuals who had invited him on a personal visit to Dubai. We were told that there is no confirmation of his programs in Dubai. Later we were informed by our sources of his arrival in the Aweer Gurudwara on Thursday and Friday. We went to the gurudwara in the evening and noticed Jathedar along with his PA Pritpal Singh and Dharam Singh present in the Sangat. Nearing the end of the program, they addressed the Sangat and made an exit from the back doors of the gurudwara. We were helpless to communicate with him, so we gave a letter in writing with the news piece issued in Rozana Spokesman(saal 2 Ank 288) on 5^th Sept ’07 requesting a personal meeting with Jathedar Vedantee before his next program i.e. on Friday. There was no response to our request.

Due to lack of awareness regarding the matter in the Sikh Sangat, we made copies of the news piece issued in Rozana Spokesman with a slogan of "Shamelessness" on him. These were distributed outside the Aweer Gurudwara on Friday evening before the arrival of the Vedantee. As the people started reading the news about this shameless act by SGPC, they were awaiting his arrival restlessly demanding an answer from the Jathedar. Looking at the reaction of the people, the puppets of Jathedar Vedantee became violent which led to physical scuffle. This resulted in injuries and attack on the turbans. I personally was a victim of this incident. I was standing with my disfigured turban outside the Aweer gurudwara when the puppets pointed towards me while mumbling something following which the Jathedar, his PA Pritpal Singh and Dharam Singh glanced at me one by one without any resentment.

This showed how fake our so called Jathedars are. The present situation demands each one of us to stand up and pull down these crooked people from the distinguished positions which they don’t deserve. They are a blot on the Sikh Panth. These news items can be reached on the official website of Rozana Spokesman www.rozanaspokesman.com under the heading "Purane Ank" on the bottom right corner of the page.

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gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf

pRo[ qrlocn isMG jI! vfih gurU jI kf Kflsf, vfih grU jI Piqh.

sfzf vIcfr vItFdrf gurU nfnk sfihb dIaF ilKqF qy aDfrq huMdf hY nF ik iksy sfieMsdfn dy vIcfrF qy.

quhfzy jvfb ivcoN gurU nfnfk sfihb dy igafn dI mYNnUM koeI Jlk mihsUs nhI hoeI qy qusIN albrt afeInÈtfeIn sfhmxy KVf kr idwqf. BfvyN qusIN iPjYks dy pRoPYsr ho Pyr vI mYNnUM ies qrHF dy jvfb dI AuzIk nhI sI.

"kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI, ik qusI ieh sB kuwJ smJo. kudrq Ausy qrHF hI cfhuMdI hY ijvyN qusI soc rhy ho. kudrq cfhuMdI hY ik qusIN hr pl nUM socy ijs ivwc qusIN ies smyN sfh lY rhy ho".

ieh sfrIaF sqrF afpF ivroDI hn. ieh gurU nfnk pfqÈfh df isDFq nhI. quhfnUM kuwJ svfl:

A[ kudrq kI cfhuMdI hY ies bfry iksy nUM koeI ielm nhI. gurU nfnk sfihb df Purmfx hY: aMqu n jfpY ikaf min mMqu]

aqy

rMku rfAu jf kY eyk smfin] kIt hsiq sgl pUrfn] bIE pUiC n msliq DrY] jo ikCu krY su afpih krY] 2]

ies krky quhfnUM ikvyN pqf cwilaf ik kudrq ieh cfhuMdI hY ik asIN hr pl nUM socIey ijs ivwc asIN sfh lY rhy hF?

a[ mrn qoN bfad sfzIaF idmfgI plytF jf cyqnf vflIaF izskF bdl jFdIaF hn qF agly jnm ivwc sfnUM ikvyN pqf cwldf hY ik hux sfzf punr jnm ho igaf hY? Auh ikhVI ivDI hY ijs rfhIN sfnUM ieh igafn huMdf hY? gwl punr jnm dy pqf lwgx dI hY. nhI qF kroVF mOqF qy jnm qF hr roj kudrqI inXm anusfr ho hI rhy hn. ieh sMsfr rukdf nhI. smf cwlI hf irhf hY. asIN ruk skdy hF. iksy nUM jf kudrq nUM ies nfl koeI mqlb nhI. sfzy roikaf kudrq rukx vflI nhI.

e[ swqvIN awTvIN jmfq ivwc pVHdy huMdy sF Boiqk qy rsfiexk pRIvrqn. albrt afeInÈtfeIn muqfbk pdfrQ iewk dUjy ivwc rUpFqr huMdy hn Kqm nhI huMdy. ieh vI EhI hY. pfxI df brP bxnf, BfP bxnf qy iPr pfxI bxnf sMBv hY. lwkVI df jlxf qy suafh ho jfxf iewk vwKrI gwl hY. suafh qoN lwkVI nhI bxfeI jf skdI. iesy hI qrHF mry afdmI qoN suafh bx jFdI hY mqlb sfry qwq qwqF ivwc iml gey miraf kuwJ vI nhI. gurbfxI df Purmfx hY:

rfmklI mhlf 5] pvnY mih pvnu smfieaf] joqI mih joiq ril jfieaf] mftI mftI hoeI eyk] rovnhfry kI kvn tyk] 1] kAunu mUaf ry kAunu mUaf] bRhm igafnI imil krhu bIcfrf iehu qAu clqu Bieaf] 1] rhfAu] aglI ikCu Kbir n pfeI] rovnhfru iB AUiT isDfeI] Brm moh ky bFDy bMD] supnu Bieaf BKlfey aMD] 2] iehu qAu rcnu ricaf krqfir] afvq jfvq hukim apfir] nh ko mUaf n mrxY jogu] nh ibnsY aibnfsI hogu] 3] jo iehu jfxhu so iehu nfih] jfnxhfry kAu bil jfAu] khu nfnk guir Brmu cukfieaf] nf koeI mrY n afvY jfieaf] 4] 10] {pMnf 885}

s[ quhfzy muqfbk qf cyqnqf AUrjf hY. myrI soc muqfbk cyqnqf Aurjf nhI sgoN cyqnqf (soc skqI) iksy AUrjf nfl cwldI hY qy jdoN iksy jIv ivwc koeI ÈkqI Kqm ho geI Aus vkq cyqnqf vI Kqm ho geI. mry hoey pRfxI dI koeI cyqnqf nhI huMdI? bfkI svfl iPr kdI. DMnvfd.

quhfzf vIr,

gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf.

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amirMdr isMG

Prof. Tarlochan Singh Majan ji,

Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Wahe Guru Ji Ke Fathe

It was very ironic to read a physicist saying nature does not want us to understand it yet the physics is the science of nature. Our limited knowledge may prevent us from comprehending nature but that does not mean nature is stopping us or we should stop trying.

You mentioned Einstein’s formula which relates mass and energy. Did he create the behavior of mass and energy or did he simply describe it? He must have understood the properties of mass to say that it can be converted to energy. The ideas that were discovered by Einstein are being used today to advance our knowledge about nature. Today’s science will form the basis for future discoveries.

You also mentioned Einstein’s theory of relativity. It is definitely true that time is relative to speed as concluded by Einstein. As you say, age varies depending speed as time dilates, but how did Einstein figure this out? Is Einstein P.A. of God that he had the inside knowledge or did he discover it using scientific methods?

Law of Conversation of Matter states that nothing can be created nor destroyed. All the matter we have today was given to us by nature. However, someone discovered this and it formed the basis for science; it is the first thing taught in a Chemistry class. Someone must have understood this behavior of nature to state this law.

In India, thirty-forty years ago, when a lunar or solar eclipse would take place, what did people do? (aSny GoVy df dfn)Was Rahu Katu attached to the Sun/Moon during the eclipse? Do people still believe that or have they followed the scientific explanation of this phenomenon? Our understanding was limited by the knowledge available at the time, but now everything is clear. We can calculate when an eclipse will occur. Did we find some book written by God that states when all the eclipse will occur or did some astronomer carefully examine the rotation of earth and moon to develop a formula?

I have heard stories from my elders about lightning being Krishan’s sister. Is it true that it always struck mfmf-Bfxjf? Benjamin Franklin discovered the properties of electricity and invented the lightning rod. Is this not understanding nature?

Countless times we have used nature to our advantage simply by understanding its basic properties. There is no end as we will always think of new ideas and make further advancements and improvements on the ideas we use today. Some may use it to help humanity while others use it to destroy. Nature is an open and endless book; one can read as much as they want. Only our ignorance and inability to accept obscure ideas are obstructing us from unlocking the secrets of nature.

Regards,

Amrinder Singh

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ig: sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

gurmuK ipafry s[ srvjIq isMG jI

ieh myry vfsqy bVy mfx dI gwl hY qy iesdI mY Éud nUM Éud hI ÈfvfÈy dyx qoN nhI ruk skdf ik quhfzy vrgy, nvy Xuwg dI ivwidaf pRfpq, agFh vDU, pMQ drdI nOjvfn myry ‘GIcmcoiÜaF’ ijhF nUM nf kyvl pVHdy hI hn blik iehnF df gMBIr noits vI lYNdy hn. nfÜ hI afpxy vwloN suJf vI idMdy hn ijQy ikqy AuhnF nUM suDfr dI guMjfieÈ nËr afvy.

quhfzf suJf isr mwQy. suDfr krFgf. vYsy hI bcpn qoN dwbU ijhf suBf hox krky "jI jI sB khfq" vfÜI hI myrI qrsXog ijhI avwsQf hY. zr rihMdf hY ik myrI gwl df koeI swjx burf nf mnf lvy. bol bfxI myrI ‘buVHI dy syhry sfVn’ vrgI hI hox krky mY ilKq ivwc iËafdf sfvDfnI vrqx dI koiÈÈ krdf hF.

ghu nfÜ pVHn leI vI qy suJf leI vI bhuq bhuq DMnvfd.

jFdy jFdy: kfhÜI ivwc Aus iemfndfr swjx df nF mYQoN Êlq iliKaf igaf hY. Aus cMgy swjx df nF s[ blrfj isMG brfV hY. s[ bldyv isMG brfV nhI. afpxI ipClI kYlyPornIaf dI Xfqrf Xfqrf dOrfn vI mY AuhnF pfs ÌirËno Tihiraf sF. Auh EQy dI gurduafrf dI kmytI dy, pRDfn s[ crnjIq isMG bfT jI dy nfÜ, jnrl skwqr vI sn qy pMjfbI df ryzIE apxI suGV isMGxI nfÜ imÜ ky clfAuNdy sn.

ÈuBicMqk

sMqoK isMG

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srvjIq isMG

igafnI sMqoK isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf,

vfihgurU jI kI PLiqh]

afp jI dI hwz bIqI pVH ky mn ivc iek iKafl pYdf ho igaf ik afp jI iks mjLbUrI aDIn Aus sfD nUM vfr-vfr 'sMq jI' ilK rhy ho. jdoN ik afp jI ny ienHf iPwty hoey sfDF dIaF krqUqF bfry bhuq hI spwsLt itwpxIaF kIqIaF hn. aKIr ivc afp jI ny 'iek buwZf sMq' ilK ky afpxI nPLrq df iejhfr jrUr kIqf hY. gurbfxI ivc iehnf leI 'bnfrs dy Twg' sLbd vriqaf igaf hY.

gj sfZy qY qY DoqIaf, iqhry pfiein qg ] glI ijnÙf jpmflIaf, loty hiQ inbg ] Eie hir ky sMq n afKIaih, bfnfris ky Tg ]ñ] aYsy sMq, n mo kAu Bfvih ] zflf isAu pyzf gtkfvih ]ñ] rhfAu ] {pMnf ô÷ö}

inmrqf sihq bynqI hY ik afp jI dI jIvnI 'Jwgf pftf hoieaf' CpvfAux qoN pihlF ieh soD kr lYxI jI.

afdr sihq,

srvjIq isMG.

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ig: sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

siqkfr Xog s mwKx isMG jI

siqkfr Xog s[ avqfr isMG imÈnrI jI ny ikrpf krky myrI ÈMkf inivrqI kIqI hY. AuhnF dI ikrpf nfÜ hux mYnUM pqf lwg igaf hY ik ieh mfx krn Xog jfxkfrI jnfb muhisn ÌfnI dI ikqfb ‘dibsqfin mËfhb’ ivwc ilKI hoeI hY. bhuq smf pihlF Aus ikqfb dy drÈn krn df suBfg pRfpq hoieaf sI qy Aus ivcoN Gwt qoN Gwt ‘nfnkpMQIaF’ vfÜf kFz qF ËrUr hI mY piVHaf hovygf. pr mYnUM eynI mhwqvpUrx jfxkfrI Xfd nhI sI rhI. ies leI imÈnrI sfihb jI nUM vfr vfr myrI bynqI pVHn dI Kycl dyxI peI. jo AuhnF nUM myrI ies bynqI nfÜ kuwJ nfrfËgI pYdf hoeI mihsUs huMdI hY Aus leI dovy hwQ joV ky mY ies gusqÉI dI AuhnF pfsoN iKmf mMgdf hF. gurU dIaF sMgqF myry lyK pVH qy Bfsn sux ky ÈfbfÈ dy idMdIaF ny qy mY mUrK "hAu mUrK kfrY lfeIaf" nUM smJ ky hor Puwl jFdf hF. BFZf jU Cotf hoieaf! AusdI myhr bhuq vwzI hox krky AuCÜ jFdf hF. sMgqF dI pRsMsf nUM siqgurF df afÈIrvfd smJdf hF. myrf qF isrP qy isrP eyho hI afÈf sI qy hY ik ies jfxkfrI df sRoq mYnUM vI imÜ jfvy qy mY vI aijhI jfxkrI sRoiqaF nfÜ sFJI kr skF pr lwgdf hY ik imÈnrI sfihb jI ny ies sfDfrn jigafsU dI puwC nUM vI afpxI ivdvqf Aupr hmlf smJ ky jvfb ivwc hmlfvr ruÉ aÉiqafr kIqf hY. pqf nhI myrI puwC ivwc kI ÊlqI ho geI sI.

rhI gwl zrn dI; Auh qF ies buZI Aumr ivwc sB qoN zr ky hI rihxf pYNdf hY. öõ sfl df mY ho igaf hF. ies buZypy ivwc rotI df vI muQfj iksy hor Aupr hI hox krky hmyÈF zr vflI avsQf ivwc hI gujrnf pYNdf hY. vYsy vI, "srvr pMKI hykVo PfhIvfl pcfs]" vflI gwl hI myry qy ZukdI hY. "sqr kf miq hIx" hox ivwc koeI bhuqI dUrI nhI rih geI. eysy krky nOjvfn imÈnrI sfihb vrigaF nUM myrI sfDfrn puwC vI cuB jFdI hY. awgy vI ies qrHF hI iewk iswK mfrg dy ilKfrI vwloN myrI sfDfrn puwC df mYnUM mUMh qoVvF jvfb imiÜaf sI.

jykr imÈnrI sfihb cfhuMdy qF myry vwloN pihlI vfr kIqI geI bynqI dy jvfb ivwc isrÌ ‘dwibsqfin mËfhb’ ilK ky hI myrI jigafsf nUM ÈFq krky eynI nfrfËgI pYdf krn qoN afpxf bcf kr skdy sI.

AuhnF df eI-myl myry pfs hY qy myrf AuhnF pfs hY, jo ik hux mY Auh zIlIt kr idaFgf qF ik iPr myry pfsoN aijhI gusqfÉI nf ho jfvy.

GrogI sImq sfDnF krky aqy ipRM[ sfihb isMG jI qy sMq cMnx isMG jI dI sMgq krky qy Bgq pUrn isMG jI qy s[ gurbÉÈ isMG pRIqlVI dy sMjmI ivcfrF qoN pRyrq ho ky, mY afpxy inj Aupr Gwt qoN Gwt vsIly vrqx df Xqn krdf hF; Kfs krky Pon dI vrqoN qoN qF mY bhuq hI sMkoc krdf hF. jdoN eI-myl rfhIN sMdyÈ idqf/ilaf jf skdf hY qF iPr Pon dI ÌËUl ÉrcI ikAuN kIqI jfvy, ieh kyvl myrf hI ivcfr hY. aijhy myry Jwlvlwly ijhy ivcfrF krky hI myry prvfr dy jI mYnUM kMjUs afKdy hn. vYsy gurmiq anusfr kMjUs hoxf cMgf gux nhI qy sMjmI hoxf Èfied TIk hI smiJaf jFdf hovy!

imÈnrI sfihb jI dy Auqr qoN pRyrq ho ky hux mY Auh pusqk ikiqAuN lB ky qy ieh ù ivcoN ö imlIan vflI jfxkfrI dI qswlI krky hI afpxy iksy lyK jF lYkcr ivwc vrqFgf. iesdf mqlb ieh nhI ik mYnUM ies jvfb qy joeI ikMqU hY; isrP afpxI qswlI leI hI; qF ik jykr koeI mYnUM puwCy qF mYnUM imÈnrI sfihb jF iksy hor swjx df hvflf nf dyxf pvy. ipRM[ jsbIr isMG jI horF dI gvfhI dI loV qF qF pvy jykr mYnUM imÈnrI sfihb jI dI jfxkfrI qy ÈMkf hovy. ies leI AuhnF nUM Pon suxn dI KycÜ mY nhI pfvFgf jI.

vYsy sfnUM iswKF nUM ies gwl dI ËrUr hI ÈfbfÈ imÜnI cfhIdI hY ik awj dy bMglfdyÈ, ihMdusqfn, pfiksqfn qy aÌgfisqfn dy Aus smy dy smucy dyÈ ivwc sfzI afbfdI iqMnF ivcoN do ihwsy sI qy hux dy ihMdusqfn ivwc asIN pOxy do PI sdI vI nhI hF. ikDr cly gey Auh Aus smy dy Cy imlIan iswK! hYrfnI hY ies gwl dI!

Buwl dI iKmf bÉÈxI jI. awgy qoN kdI vI afp jI nUM ies qrHF dI KycÜ dy ky afp jI dy mn ivwc aÈFqI pYdf krn df koJf Xqn nhI krFgf jI.

gurU pMQ df dfs

sMqoK isMG

myrf aYzRYs qy Pon ieAuN hY jI:

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pRo: qrlocn isMG

qrlocn isMG (iPijks lYkcrfr)

Kflsf kflj, pitaflf.

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myry buDIjIvI Brfqf gurcrn isMG jI jIAux vfly jI jIE, gurU Piqh pvfn krnf jI.

iKmf krnI, mYN qusF dy pRÈnF df Auqr jldI nhIN dy sikaf, ikAuNik mYN afpxy puqr nUM quhfzy kol ‘torFto sYntynIal kflj’ pVHfeI krn leI Byjx dI koiÈÈ ivwc sF.

hF jI, punr jnm hn aqy ieh iewk nhIN, do nhIN, iqMn nhIN, ds vIh pMjfh jF so vI nhIN, lwKF kroVF vI nhIN blik asMKF qy sfied ies qoN vI vwD hn ijnHF nUM klm nfl jF isafhI nfl iliKaf nhIN jf skdf.

kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI, ik qusI ieh sB kuwJ smJo. kudrq Ausy qrHF hI cfhuMdI hY ijvyN qusI soc rhy ho. kudrq cfhuMdI hY ik qusIN AunHF plF nUM socy ijs ivwc qusI ies smyN sfh lY rhy ho. jo bIq igaf Auh igaf Aus df koeI vjUd nhIN iesy leI Auh quhfzy idmfgI-kMmpIAUtr ivwc iPt hoeI-hoeI izsk nUM hr jnm ivwc klIn kr idMdI hY. izskF bdldIaF rihMdIaF, pr cyqnf Auho rihMdI hY, hF cyqnf dy lYvl bdldy rihMdy hn kdy ieh invfx vl vwgx lgdI hY aqy kdy akfÈ dIaF bulMdIaF nUM CUhx dI koiÈÈ krdI hY. hr jnm ivwc kudrq quhfnUM nvIN izsk qF idMdI hY pr Auh Aus nUM bUt afp krdI hF ies leI bUitMg kmFzs qusI nhIN bdl skdy.

jdoN iensfn mrdf hY qF asI smJdy hF Auh Kqm ho igaf. Aus nUM suafh kr idMdy hF, qF kI Auh Kqm ho jFdf hY? jrf soco Auh jdoN pYdf hoieaf sI qF Auh ikMnf ku sI? jF iPr jdoN Auh mF dy pyt ivwc sI qF Auh ikMnf ku sI? qy ies qoN vI pihlF jdoN Auh bIj sI qF Auh ikMnf ku sI? qF kI asl ivwc ÈurU qoN Auh iewk bIj hI sI. nhIN Auh bIj nhIN sI? qF Auh iPr kI sI? qy ijvyN ijvyN smf qurdf igaf Aus qy mfs df Bfr vwDx lgf ieh mfs ikQoN af irhf sI, ies bRihmMz ivcoN. hF iesy bRihmMz ivcoN. qy jdoN Auh mrygf qF kI Auh Kqm ho jfeygf? nhIN Auh Kqm vI nhIN ho skdf ikAuNik aYtmF iklYktRfnF protfnF aqy kuafrks df ijnHF sdkf hr iewk vsqU df vjUd hY aqy Aus dI hoNd hY AunHF nUM koeI mfr nhIN skdf ikAuNik Auh AUrjf df sroq hn aqy afienstfeIn dy PfrmUly muqfibk AUrjf aqy pdfrQ iewk dUjy ivwc rUpFqrx huMdy rihMdy hn. ivigafn dy inXm muqfibk AUrjf nUM nF qF koeI bxf skdf hY nF hI ies nUM Kqm kIqf jf skdf hY. hF ies dIaF ÈklF nUM bdilaf jf skdf hY ieh hY ivigafn df inXm.

Energy can neither be created nor it can be destroyed . Only transformation is possible in one form to another.

qF iPr cyqnf vI qF iewk AUrjf df hI rUp hY. ies nUM vI nF qF bxfieaf jf skdf hY aqy nf hI Kqm kIqf jf skdf hY. ies df rUpfqrx huMdf hY. hF ies df rUpfqrx hoxf avÈ hY ikAuNik ieh smyN dy aDIn hY. jy koeI smyN qoN bfhr ho jfey qF iPr Auh akfl ho jFdf hY aqy ieh koeI soKflf nhIN. ies avsQf ivwc phuMc ky ijs mrn qoN jg zrdf hY Auho mrnf afnMd ho jFdf hY.

ivigafnI afeInstfeIn muqfibk smF sMpyKq hY. ies nUM ijvyN asIN mihsUs krdy hF AuvyN ieh nhIN hY. jy DrqI dy iensfn dI Aumr ijhVI ky qkrIbn aOsqn 70 sfl hY iksy hor gRih qoN nfpogy qF ieh ho skdf hY 7 sikMtF qoN vI Gt hovy. qy jy ikqy hor gRih qoN nfpo qF ho skdf hY ky 7000 sfl bx jfvy qF smyN bfry qusIN kI kih skdy? kuwJ vI nhIN. ies leI kroVF jnm ikMny smyN ivwc lMG rhy hn ies bfry kuwJ nhIN kihaf jf skdf. ho skdf hY ieh smF iCn mfqr hI hovy aqy ieh vI ho skdf hY ik ieh smF aYzf vwzf hovy ik ies nUM iliKaf hI nf jf skdf hovy.

kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI ik quhfzf sPr Kqm hovy. kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI ik qusI ruko. kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI ik qusI mfieaf ngrI nUM pihcfno. Auh quhfnUM vgfAuxf cfhuMdI hY. quhfnUM cldf rKxf cfhuMdI hY AuvyN hI ijvyN afnMq jnmF qoN ijvyN qusIN cl rhy ho. iesy leI Auh iBMn-iBMn qrIikaF nfl quhfnUM BrmfAuxf locdI hY. aOr qusI Brmdy cly jFdo ho. koeI iewk iensfn lwKF kroVF ivcoN iewk gurU nfnk dyv jI vrgf (jF ijvyN sfzy gurU sfihbfn sn) jF mhfqmf buD vrgf kdI kdI ruk jFdf hY. mfieaf ngrI qoN bfhr ho jFdf hY. smyN qoN pry ho jFdf hY. akfl ho jFdf hY. amr ho jFdf hY. Aus leI nF qF jIvn huMdf hY aqy nf hI mOq. iewk lfeIn ijhVI jIvn qy mOq ivwc hY imt jFdI hY.

pr afpF nhIN rukxf, asF cldy hI jfxf hI, asF bhuq kMm krny hn, bfl bwcy hn ibjnYs hY nokrI hY jy asI ruk gey qF iPr ienHF df kI bxygf. nhIN, sfzy leI clnf hI TIk hY jy ruk gey qF lVygf kox? grIbF df KUn kox cUsygf? ablf dI iejq nfl iKlvfV kox krygf? aYtm bMb aqy hfeIzrojn bMb nUM qF jMg lg jfeygf. ienHF df clnf jrUrI hY ikAuNik kroVF df Krc ho irhf hY ienHF nUM bxfAux qy.

irÈqy bxfAuxy sfnUM bhuq cMgy lgdy hn. bVf skUn hfsl huMdf hY. kuwJ irÈqy jg-jfhr huMdy hn aqy kuwJ nUM asI lkoxf cfhuMdy hF. myry ies irÈqy df iksy nUM pqf nhIN lgxf cfhIdf. jy pqf lg igaf qF anrQ ho jfeygf! bcy kI kihxgy? nhIN ies irÈqy df iksy nUM pqf nhIN lgxf cfhIdf. sfzy irÈqy hox aqy Zyr sfry hox pr iksy nUM pqf nf lgy. kudrq quhfzI ienHF ieCfvF dI hI qF pUrqI kr rhI hY. bfr bfr quhfnUM jnmF dy gyiVaF ivwc pf ky. ky kro afpxIaF ieCfvF dI pUrqI, bxfE irÈqy. ienHF hI jnm jnm dy iriÈqaF ivwc mnuKI cqynf vgdI clI jFdI hY. bs hux mYN Qwk cukf hF. kI-borz qy AuNglF dI cfl jvfb dy rhI hY. bs ienF hI…… iKmF nfl

quhfzf afpxf

qrlocn isMG

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arivMdr isMG KLflsf

lMzn ivwc iswK rihq mrXfdf bfry kfnPrMs

ielPorz,

òõ agwsq òúú÷ ƒ guru goibMd isMG Kflsf kflj icgvYl (eIst lMzn) ivKy iswK stwzI Porm vloN ‘iswK rihq mrXfdf’ dI mhqwqf bfry iewk ivÈyÈ kfnPrMs kIqI geI, ijs ƒ Kflsf kflj qoN ibnHF ‘kONsl afP iswK gurduafrË sfAUQ eIst’, ‘isK imÈnrI susfietI XU: ky:’ aqy ‘iswK vumYn alfieMs’ df sihXog vI hfsl sI.

sB qoN pihlF iswK stwzI Porm dy kMnvInr sR bldyv isMG sfbr ny vwK vwK iswK sMsQfvF qy gurduafiraF qoN afey pRbMDkF qy hor ivakqIgq rUp ivwc puwjy ivdvfnF ƒ jI afieaF afKx sihq smyN isr puwjx leI DMnvfd kIqf. AunHF ny Auprokq ivÈy qy ipCly sfl hoeI kfnPrMs dI irport vI pVH ky suxfeI. kfnPrMs dy pihly sYÈn dI kfrvfeI pUrI krn leI sR jgdyv isMG puryvfl ƒ pRDfngI dI iËMmyvfrI sONpI geI sI, jo AunHF sYÈn dy aKIr qwk bVI suihrdqf aqy sucwjqf nfl inBfeI.

ies kfnPrMs dy muwK bulfry igafnI gurbKÈ isMG gulÈn jI sn, jo pRdysF ivwc iewk pRiswD iswK pRcfrk hI nhIN, sgoN ‘iswK rihq mrXfdf’ dy ivÈy aqy ivafiKaf sbMDI ivdvfn lyKk vI hn. kfnPrMs dy kMnvInr sfihb dI mMg qy AunHF ipCly sfl, sR rUp isMG jI (ayzIÈnl sYktrI, ÈromxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI, aMimRqsr) vloN ‘iswK rihq mrXfdf dI mhwqqf’ bfry ilKy prcy ƒ duhrFidaf afpxy ivcfr pyÈ kIqy. iesy qrHF igafnI gulÈn jI ny Èfm dy dUjy sYÈn ivwc vI afpxy ivcfrF ƒ hor KolHky vHfeIt borz dI mdwd nfl drsfieaf. AunHF ‘pMQk rihxI’ qy ‘sKÈI rihxI’ dy prspr sbMDF ƒ smJx bfry ivÈyÈ Ëor idwqf. pRdysF ivwc gurduafry kmytIaF qy mYNbrF dI cox ZMgF ivwc kmËorIaf dI gl vI kIqI aqy afiKaf ik gurduafiraF dy grMQI isMG kyvl pujfrI hI nhIN idsxy cfhIdy sgoN Xog pRcfrk hoxy vI ËrUrI hn; hr roË dy pUjf pfT dy nfl nfl iswKI isDFqF dI gl krnf vI smyN dI loV hY.

ijnHF hor bulfiraF ny ies kfnPrMs ivwc afpxf Xogdfn pfieaf, Auh ies pRkfr hY. zf: ÈmÈyr isMG jI sfbkf pRoPYsr pMjfbI XunIvristI, pitaflf, ny rihq sbMDI ivÈyÈ iqMn pwKF df, XfnI Conviction, Conversion and Cmmitment df Kulfsf kIqf. AunHF ieh vI Kyd prgt kIqf ik kuwJ prMprfvfdI iswK sMsQfvF sfzy keI iswK ivdvfnF ƒ pCfnx jF AunHF dI gl sunx leI vI iqafr nhIN. iesy qrHF sYÈn dy dUjy Bfg ivwc ‘iswK stwzI Porm’ dy izptI knvInr sR qrÈym isMG ny Sikh Diaspora – recognition of its contribution’, Bfv dunIaF Br ivwc ‘iswK psfry dI pCfx qy Xogdfn’ bfry afpxy ivcfr pyÈ kIqy. AusqoN bfd sR: guirMdr isMG sfcf ny ’Sikh Identity & the Sikh Turban’ dy ivÈy qy ivcfr dyNidaF qflbfnI jF muslmfnI iksm dI dsqfr dy gYr-iswK qy BulyKf pfAU hox bfry sfvDfn kIqf.

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Dear S. Makhan Singh jee Purewal (Canada),

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Since Website: www.sikhmarg.com is widely read where Articles based on"Gurbaani and Gurmatt" are shared every week, I shall be grateful if relevant potions from the Emails placed below are placed on so that other members could also express their views especially Giani Jagtar Singh jee Jachak, Missionary Avtar Singh jee, Sardaar Gurcharan Singh jee Brar, Veer Sarabjit Singh jee and many more.

It is regretted that Chief Khalsa Diwan and Institute of Sikh Studies have ceased to take any active roll when such controversy arises. Perhaps, these organizations are playing safe - not to be in bad books of SAD, SGPC and other cults/sects represented by deravaad, akj, taksaals, etc. Thanks for your selfless services to The Sikh Diaspora, though also available to all Sikhs in Punjab and other States of India.

Yours sincerely,

Gurmit Singh (Sydney - Australia)

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Dear Surinder Singh ji,

This Panthicweekly is actually run by the famous cult Naranwal panth is also known as AKJ, whose founder was lunatic and liar Randhir Singh Narangwali.
I wrote a letter about an year ago when they tried to spread rumours against Inder Singh Ghagga, as he said that "Naam Japna is GorakhDhanda", which actually is started by their cult leader Randhir Singh Narangwal.

That letter can be read at:

http://www.singhsabhacanada.com/articles.php?Id=70

I am still awaiting reply from the mouthpiece of Narangwalpanthi cult.

Gurpreet Singh Sumra
Brampton,Canada

"S. Surinder Singh" wrote:

Kind Attn: Editors & Columnist Panthic Weekly

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

This is in reference to article published this week subject, Sinister move to appoint anti-panthic granthis at Sri Darbar Sahib: IHRO

http://www.panthic.org/news/129/ARTICLE/3518/2007-08-29.html

We hope Panthic weekly are aware of real facts, figures and qualified enough to know the difference between panthic or anti-panthic. Before sharing such posting in your magazine, can Panthic weekly members, IHRO members, Mr D.S Gill & G.S Lamba can explain with any evidence that Giani Jagtar Singh Ji Jachak and Giani Gurbax Singh Ji Gulshan have violated the Human Rights and they are anti-panthic persons!!! It would be humble advice to the editors & IHRO members that before posting such things and drafting letters to SGPC (That are under the direction of anti Sikh cults) do check out Where, When, How they violated the preaching of Guru Granth Sahib Ji (Only Granth of Sikh Panth) and Sikh Rehat Maryada.

Whole Sikh Panth knows that Anti Sikh cults don't want well learned, qualified and self esteemed persons to be posted at such high post and preach & practice Sikhism as ordained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji that will free the panth from brahminical doctrines practiced & forced by RSS/Deravaad/Sadhs/Sants and other self-made cults/sects. Such people are just looking for puppets who can dance on their fingers.

Is panthic weekly (www.panthic.org) doing a fair Sikh journalism and perform a duty with utmost responsibility in name of Panth or is it running under the guidance and leadership of anti-sikh cults and their paid agents which seems to be well obvious?

Can anyone of the columnist and editors can share your official or residential address in which part of human world you are located? Why are your posting against those preachers and panth lovers who preach the real essence of Sikhism (Guru Granth Sahib Ji) and Sikh Rehat Maryada? Why your postings are supportive and promote of unauthentic book Dasam Granth? Why your postings a source of division?

Panth Dhi Chardhikala

S. Surinder Singh

Malaysia

-----Original Message-----
From: S. Surinder Singh Subject: Re: [gurmukh] IHRO Press Release on SGPC's sinister move to appoint anti-panthak granthis
Guru Pyari Sikh Sangat Jio

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

Can IHRO, Mr D.S Gill & G.S Lamba explain with any evidence that Giani Jagtar Singh Ji Jachak and Giani Gurbax Singh Ji Gulshan have violated the Human Rights and they are anti-panthic persons!!! It would be humble advice to them that before posting such things and blindly drafting such letters to SGPC under the direction of anti sikh cults, do check out Where, When, How they violated the preaching of Guru Granth Sahib Ji (Only Granth of Sikh Panth) and Sikh Rehat Maryada.

Such letters are once again back door conspiracy against Sikhism by the anti-sikh cults and their paid agents. Since such people don't want well learned, qualified and self esteemed persons to be posted at such high post and preach & practice Sikhism as ordained in Guru Granth Sahib Ji that will free the panth from brahminical doctrines practiced & forced under the influence of RSS/Deravaad/Sadhs/Sants & other self-made cults/sects. Such people are just looking for puppets who can dance on their fingers.

Panth Dhi Chardhikala

S. Surinder Singh

Malaysia

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Hereby are few replies by Panth lovers on this subject,

By S. Gurmit Singh Ji, Sydney

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

This issue relates to the appointment of Granthis at Darbaar Sahib, Amritsar. In this respect, SGPC has invited applications from individuals by specifiying certain conditions and guidelines. Thus, any individual, who possesses the desired educational qualifications and prescribed experience can apply and then it is up to the SGPC as to whether select any one or not.

It is not clear how Mr DS Gill and Mr Gurcharanjit Singh Lamba are concerned? Is it not the violation of Human Rights of two individuals against whom these persons have been vomitting venom when applicants may not be Cyber Members of these Internet Forums and can't defend themselves?

However, I don't understand why Giani Gurbax Singh Jee Gulshan and Giani Jagtar Singh jee Jachak have applied? If they have applied, then it means that they have agreed to preach Bachiter Natak/Dasam Granth and other such Sakhis eventhough contrary to the Divine Enlightenment contained in the Guru Granth Sahib !!

I am of the view such messages against invididuals should not have been shared by the Moderators.

Gurmit Singh (Sydney)

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By S. Amandeep Singh Ji Austriala

Gurfateh Sardar Gurcharanjit Singh Ji Lamba,

Sikhism is a religion of Reasoning and intellect and suited to modern times. In fact Guru Nanak Sahib 500 years had used

reasoning with Brahmins by watering his fields towards West instead of watering his long dead ancestors.

I have heard Giani Gurbax Singh Gulshan and also Giani Jagtar Singh Jachak is ex Head Granthi of Darbar Sahib Amritsar. In fact SGPC should be commended in appointing these granthis if it is true.

On the other hand I would suggest that your response borders on hypochondriac allergic reaction to very word called MISSIONARY. If it was WILD WEST of North America , I know both ourself at Sant Sipahi and IHRO will shoot without MERCY all missionaries with TAKE NO PRISONER APPROACH. Your representation does not hold much weight as it is PREJUDUCIAL and has to be DIGESTED with PINCH of SALT and Panchranga Achar and laxative tablet.

Regards

Amandeep Singh

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pfKMzI sfD afpxf ipwql sony dy Bfa vyc rhy hn, pr asIN ivrsy ivcoN pRfpq hoey sony nUM ipwql dy Bfa vI vycx qoN asmrwQ ikAuN hF?

isDFqk ieksfrqf dI axhoNd hI iswKI nUM igrfvt vwl iljf rhI hY.

kpUrQlf 25 agwsq (gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI, ikrxpRIq kOr BftIaf) ajoky smyN ivwc cfhy vwK vwK zyiraF vloN cOqrPy hmly krky iswKI isDFqF nfloN iswK kOm nUM qoVx dy Xqn jfrI hn aqy iesdy jvfb ivwc sfzy iswK afgU koeI spwÈt pYNqVf apnfAux dI bjfey dUjy DrmF dIaF kwtVpMQI jQybMdIaF nUM hI ijMmyvfr Tihrf ky afpxf boqf sfr lYNdy rhy hn, pr jykr ies sfry vrqfry nUM ghu nfl vficaf jfvy qF XkInI qOr qy afpxIaF hI kuwJ aijhIaF GftF sfhmxy afAuNdIaF hn, ijs bfry iswK pMQ ivwc ajy qwk duibDf hI bxI hoeI hY. afpo afpxI mnmwq anusfr hr koeI iewk dUjy nUM kwt ky srvÈRyÈT bxn dy cwkrF ivwc ipaf hoieaf hY. ijsdf iswDf asr jn-sDfrx iswKF Aupr pY irhf hY. zyrfvfd aqy piqqpuxf vrgf kohV pnpx dy muwK kfrxF ivwc, sfzI kOmI qOr vwK vwK muwidaF Aupr pYdf hoeI duibDf hI pRmuwK hY. hflFik jfgqjoq ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI aiDafqmk qOr qy sfzI inrMqr agvfeI kr rhI hY, pr kuwJ axcfhy vrqfry aijhy vfpr rhy hn, ijhnF qoN duwKI ho ky nOjvfn vrg bgfvq qy AuqfrU ho igaf hY.

kuJ aijhy hI ivvfdq aihm muwidaF df sdIvIN hwl lwBx leI roËfnf spoksmYn vloN iswK smfj dy keI aihm ivdvfnF aqy afgUaF nfl gwl kIqI geI qF qkrIbn sfry hI ivdvfn iewkmwq njr afey ik iswKI dy pRcfr aqy pfsfr leI kOm ivwc isDFqk eykqf bhuq hI jrUrI hY. roËfnf spoksmYn dI ies tIm vloN kIqI ies koiÈÈ df mksd koeI nvF ivvfd KVf krn dI bjfey, suihrd ho ky iehnF muwidaF nUM ivdvfnF aqy afm iswKF dy snmuwK rwKxf hY, ijs rfhIN afpsI sUJ-bUJ nfl iehnF ivvfdF nUM hmyÈF leI inptf ky iswKI pRcfr leI ieksfrqf kfiem rwKI jf sky. ikAuNik ieh vyKx ivwc afieaf hY ik dyhDfrI gurUzMm vfly pfKMzI sfD afpxy iewksfr pRcfr nfl hI lokF nUM afpxy gurUzMm nfl joVI jf rhy hn, jdik sfzy iewk pRcfrk dI khI gwl nUM dUjy pRcfrk Ausy vyly kwt ky sMgqF nUM ÈÈopMj ivwc pf idMdy hn. sfzI ies gwlbfq dOrfn kuwJ ivdvfnF ny mOjUdf vrqfry qy sKq aPsos df iejhfr krdy hoey ikhf ik jFbfj iswKF ny aTfrvIN sdI dy iBafnk julmF df tfkrf krdy hoey vI afpxI iswKI Èfn brkrfr rwKI sI, BfvyNik ies leI AuhnF nUM ÈrIrk qOr qy keI lfsfnI kurbfnIaF vI dyxIaF peIaF sn. vIhvIN ÈqfbdI dy aKIrly dhfikaF ivwc vI iswKF nUM hjfrF ÈrIrk kurbfnIaF dyxIaF peIaF. iesdy bfvjUd iswK kOm cVdI klf ivwc hI rhI. pr afpsI vwKryivaF aqy mwqBydF ny kOm nUM aMdroN aMdrIN ieMnf KoKlf kr idwqf hY ik hr pfsy byivÈvfÈI df hI aflm psiraf hoieaf hY. iswKI pRcfr leI ijMmyvfr Dfrimk jQybMdIaF hI afps ivwc isDFqk qOr qy pftIaF hoeIaF hn. sB qoN duwK BrI gwl hY ik kOm dI kyNdrI jQybMdI vjoN jfxI jFdI ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI Aupr isafsqdfnF df inrMqr kbËf rihx krky hr PYsly nUM isafsq dI qwkVI ivwc hI qoilaf jFdf hY.

sfzI tIm vloN pRmuwK ivdvfnF aqy numfieMidaF nfl kIqI gwlbfq dy incoV ivwcoN ijhVy aihm msly sfhmxy afey sn, AuhnF bfry kIqI crcf aqy afm sMgq df ies bfry pRqIkrm pyÈ kIqf jf irhf hY –

iswK rihq mirafdf nUM afpixaF vloN hI cunOqI: ÈRI akfl qKq sfihb dI rihnumfeI hyT iswK pMQ dy sMivDfn vjoN jfxI jFdI iswK rihq mirafdf nUM srbsMmqI nfl hoNd ivwc ilaFdf igaf sI. qkrIbn 13 sflF dI sKq imhnq nfl iqafr kIqI ies mirafdf bfry sfry iswK pMQ dI rfey leI geI sI. AudoN qoN ÈRomxI kmytI inrMqr ies nUM Cpvf ky muPq vMz rhI hY. pr smuwcy iswK pMQ nUM iewk Dfrf ivwc pRox vflI ies iswK rihq mirafdf df duKFq ieh hY ik iesnUM iswK kOm dy hI kuwJ zyrydfrF ny cunOqI idwqI hoeI hY. afpxI hAumY ivwc gRsy ieh zyrydfr afpo afpxI rihq mirafdf Cpvf ky sMgqF ivwc lgfqfr vMzIaF pf rhy hn. ieQoN qwk ik iesnUM Cpvf ky muPq vMzx vflI ÈRomxI kmytI vI afpxy pRbMD aDIn gurduafiraF ivwc iesnUM shI qrHF lfgU nhIN krvf skI. ies bfry gwl kridaF pRmuwK imÈnrI ivdvfn aqy iswK PulvfVI dy sMpfdk igafnI hrjIq isMG jlMDr ny ikhf ik iswK jIvn jfc df aDfr ies iswK rihq mirafdf ivwc mOjUdf smyN anusfr kuwJ AUxqfeIaF ho skdIaF hn, pr jd qwk iehnF AUxqfeIaF bfry smuwcf pMQ koeI sFJf PYslf nhIN lYNdf, kOmI ieksfrqf kfiem rwKx leI sfnUM ies Aupr hI zwt ky pihrf dyxf hovygf. igafnI hrjIq isMG anusfr ies rihq mirafdf ivwc iksy qrHF dI soD kyvl srbwq Kflsf bulf ky jF smuwcIaF iDrF dI sihmqI nfl hI kIqI jf skdI hY.

dsm gRMQ df ivvfd: ies ivwc koeI aiqkQnI nhIN ik dÈmyÈ ipqf df iqafr kIqf gRMQ kih ky pRcfry jf rhy ies dsm gRMQ bfry iesdy hoNd ivwc afAux qoN hI ivvfd irhf hY. ies ivwc vI iksy nUM koeI Èwk Èubf nhIN ik kyvl gurU gRMQ sfihb jI hI iswKF dy vfihd vrqmfn siqkfrq gurU hn. pr ies ivvfd df njfiej Pfiedf lY ky sfzy kuwJ Brf iesnUM gurU gRMQ sfihb dy brfbr asQfpn krn df kukrm kr rhy hn. iswK hfAUs amrIkf dy jnrl skwqr aqy pRiswD kQfvfck s[ rfjf isMG (jlMDr) anusfr bjfey iesdy ik iswK kOm dI ies gRMQ bfry bxI duibDf nUM hmyÈF leI Kqm krn leI sfrIaF hI iDrF dI rfey lY ky ‘Dur kI bfxI’ dy isDFq nUM aDfr bxf ky iewk inrpwK isDFqk inrxf lY ilaf jFdf, sfzy qKqF dy muwK syvfdfrF ny aprYl 2001 ivwc ies gRMQ dy ivroDIaF nUM cuwp krfAux leI ies ivÈy qy crcf krn qy hI pfbMdI lgf idwqI sI. jdik ies gRMQ dy hmfieqI Èryafm qKqF dI Cwqr Cfieaf hyT mIzIey aqy afpxy mYgjInF rfhIN iesnUM gurbfxI iswD krn qy hI lwgy rhy. AuhnF duwK pRgt kIqf ik aijhI avsQf ivwc iswK kOm aMdr BMbl-BUsf pYdf nf hovy, ies bfry sfzy afgUaF ny kdy soicaf hI nhIN igaf, ijs sdkf inrfÈf df aflm afm hY.

rfgmflf df ivvfd: gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy pMnf 1429 qoN 1430 qwk rfgmflf aMkq hY. pRmuwK iswK jQybMdIaF ivwcoN aKMz kIrqnI jQf ies rcnf nUM gurbfxI mMnx qoN spwÈt qOr qy ienkfrI hY, jdik dmdmI tksfl vfly iesnUM gurbfxI mMn rhy hn. pfvn gurbfxI dI aMqrIv Bfvnf anusfr ies ivvfd nUM hmyÈF leI hwl krn dI bjfey iswK rihq mirafdf iqafr krn vfly ivdvfnF ny vI ies bfry doglf rvweIaf hI apxfieaf, jdoN iswKF dy sMivDfn ivwc ieh ilK idwqf igaf ik koeI ies rcnf qoN bgYr bIV Cfpx df hIaf nf kry. nfl hI ies dy pfT krn bfry ieh Cot dy idwqI geI ik pfT df Bog muMdfvnI AuWqy jF rfgmflf pVH ky cldI sQfnk rIqI anusfr pfieaf jfvy. pRiswD ivdvfn zfktr gurÈrxjIq isMG cfkr (aMimRqsr) anusfr rfgmflf bfry koeI isDFqk inrxf krn dI bjfey purfqn ivdvfnF ny afpxy gloN blf tflx leI aijhI doglI nIqI apxf ky iswKF ivwc mwqByd hI vDfey hn. AuhnF ikhf ik sfnUM aijhy msly ihMmq aqy iewCf ÈkqI nfl nijwTxy cfhIdy hn. rfgmflf bfry dogly stYNz df kfrx pMQk pRbMD Aupr kfbj isafsI lokF dI mjbUq pkV df iswtf hY, jo sB nUM KuÈ krnf locdy hn.

mfs Kfx bfry jF nf Kfx bfry ivvfd: ieh iewk aijhf ivvfd hY ijsdf koeI aMq njr nhIN af irhf. ies ivvfd nUM BVkfAux ivwc Kfs qOr qy pMjfb ivwc kMm kr rhI ‘bfbf’ lfbI df hI hwQ hY. Kflsf imÈn kONsl (duafbf irËn) dy pRmuwK ivdvfn BfeI suirMdr isMG Tykydfr anusfr hflfq ieQoN qwk bx cuwky hn ik mfs nf Kfx vflf, awj afpxy afp nUM srvoqm smJdf hoieaf, mfs Kfx vfly nUM isKrF dI nPrq kr irhf hY. BfeI Tykydfr anusfr iswK kOm dy sMivDfn ‘iswK rihq mirafdf’ ivwc ies bfry kyvl ieMnf hI aMkq hY ik kuwTf nhIN Kfxf (nfl hI not idwqf igaf hY ik kuwTf qoN Bfv Auh mfs hY jo muslmfnI qrIky nfl iqafr kIqf hovy). pr afpo afpxI gwl qy aizwg hr koeI ies kuwTy Kfx dy afpxI suivDf anusfr hI arQ kr irhf hY. ijs kfrx ies ivÈy Aupr vI ivvfd bdsqUr kfiem hY. iewQy vrxnXog hY ik kuwJ ivdvfn, ijhnF ivwc BfeI rxDIr isMG, aqy svrgI joigMdr isMG qlvfVf afid Èfml hn, ny afpxIaF pusqkF ivwc mfs Kfx dI krVI ivroDqf kIqI sI. iehnF ilKfrIaF df jvfb idMidaF kYnyzf vwsdy ivdvfn gurbKÈ isMG kflf aPgfnf ny afpxI pusqk ‘mfs mfs kir mUrKu JgVY’ ivwc ieh iswD kr idwqf ik mfs Kfxf jF nf Kfxf, ieh iswK df inwjI mslf hY. ies ivwc Dfrimk ivvfd vflI koeI gwl nhIN hoxI cfhIdI. vYsy iewQy ieh ijkr krnf vI munfsb hovygf ik ÈRomxI kmytI dI aihm mYNbr vjoN ivcrdI rhI aqy aMimRqsroN Cwpdy iewk pRiswD iswK mYgjIn dI svrgI sMpfdkf afpxy mYgjIn rfhIN mfs Kfx dI jbrdsq hmfieq krdI rhI sI.

pRcfrkF df inwjI jIvn: smUh isMG sBfvF dy knvInr s[ hrjIq isMG BftIaf dy kQn anusfr afm sMgq qwk iswK PlsPy df pRBfv pRcfrkF dy jrIey hI phuMcdf hY. ies leI iswK pRcfrk df inwjI jIvn aijhf hoxf cfhIdf hY ik Auh sMgq leI iewk imsfl hovy. styj qy boly ÈbdF vFg Ausdy hr krm ivcoN gurbfxI dI KuÈbU afAuNdI hovy. pr aPsos ik bfkI pwKF ivwc afeI igrfvt vFg sfzy bhuqy iswK pRcfrkF dy jIvn ivwc vI mfieaf dy pRBfv kfrx aMdroN hor, bfhroN hor, vflI avsQf hI bxI hoeI hY. s[ BftIaf anusfr styjF Aupr sohxy sohxy viKafn krn vfly pRcfrkF df muwK mnorQ sMgqF nUM gurU nfl joVxf hoxf cfhIdf hY. pr kQf kIrqn qoN pRBfvq hoeI sMgq nUM jdoN pRcfrk df afpxf inwjI jIvn gurmiq qoN kohF dUr njr afAuNdf hY qF gurU dI bjfey Aus pRcfrk dIaF gwlF nfl juVIaF sMgqF aMdrUnI qOr qy tuwt ky nfsiqkqf vfly rsqy pY jFdIaF hn. s[ hrjIq isMG BftIaf anusfr imÈnrI kfljF aqy hor adfiraF vloN bVy vDIaf pRcfrk iqafr kIqy jf rhy hn, pr sMgq ivwc AuhnF df vDIaf pRBfv pfAux leI AuhnF pRcfrkF ivwc hAumY aqy kRoD dI bjfey sMjm, imTfs aqy ÈihxÈIlqf vfly guxF df sMcfr krnf aiq jrUrI hY.

inqnym dIaF bfxIaF df ivvfd: pMQ pRvfinq iswK rihq mirafdf anusfr aMimRq vyly iqMn aqy Èfm nUM rihrfs aqy sohlf sfihb bfxI dy pfT krn df ivDfn drj hY. pr iswKI ivclIaF kuwJ sMprdfvF vloN aMimRq vyly cOpeI aqy afnMd sfihb bfxI Èfml krky pMj bfxIaF df inqnym krn krky kOm dI ieksfrqf BMg ho rhI hY. iswK XUQ PYzryÈn dy afgU BfeI suKdyv isMG kQfvfck anusfr kOmI ieksfrqf brkrfr rwKx leI sfzI kyNdrI jQybMdI vloN koeI Auprflf nhIN kIqf igaf. ies ivvfdI msly nUM kyvl srbwq Kflsf bulf ky jF sfrIaF pMQk iDrF dI sFJI soc nfl hI hwl kIqf jf skdf hY.

gurbfxI ivafiKaf: iswK imÈnrI kflj dy kpUrQlf srkl dy s[ hrBjn isMG anusfr ajoky smyN gurbfxI dI ivafiKaf krn dIaF keI pRxflIaF kMm kr rhIaF hn. koeI ivafiKaf ivwc mnGVq sfKIaF suxf irhf hY, koeI qrHF qrHF dy msfly lgf irhf hY. koeI sMsQf iesdI rhfAu vflI quwk nUM aDfr bxf ky ivafiKaf kr rhI hY aqy koeI ivafiKaf rfhIN vihmF BrmF nUM hI bVfvf dyeI jf irhf hY. jd qwk sfzy pRcfrk iewksfr ivafiKaf sMgqF qwk nhIN phuMcfAuNdy, sMgqF ivwc qrHF qrHF dy svfl vwDdy hI jfxy hn, jo aKIr BMbl-BUisaF nUM hI jnm dyxgy.

Auprokq qoN ielfvf hor vI keI Coty Coty msly hn, ijhnF dI vjHf nfl iswK kOm dI ieksfrqf BMg ho rhI hY. s[ gurÈrxjIq isMG cfkr ny afpxI rfey dwsidaF ikhf ik ieh sfry ivvfd sfzy afgUaF dI kmjorI dI hI Aupj hn. hux hflfq ieQoN qwk ivgV gey hn ik gurU gRMQ sfihb ivclI ivcfrDfrf nUM iewk pfsy rwK ky hr DVf Auprokq muwidaF qy lV mrn leI iqafr KVf hY. ajy vI mOkf hY ik ivgVI sMvfr leIey. nhIN qF afAux vflI pIVI sfnUM kdy vI mfP nhIN krygI. asIN iewQy ieh nhIN khFgy ik iehnF ivvfdF mgr koeI pMQ doKI qfkq kMm kr rhI hY, pr ieMnf jrUr kihxf cfhFgy ik jykr ieh ivvfd sflJfAux ivwc Kflsf pMQ kfmXfb ho jFdf hY qF koeI vI qfkq iswK kOm df vfl vI ivMgf nhIN kr skdI. iPr afr[ aYs[ aYs[ vrgIaF jQybMdIaF iswKF dy aMdrUnI mfmilaF ivwc dKl dyx qoN pihlF sO vfrI socxgIaF.

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

pRo[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI nUM bynqI.

vIr jIE gur Piqh bulfeI pRvfn hovy jI. mYN trwk clfAudf hF ies krky afÈf Èrmf jI dy svfl df Auqr CyqI nhI dy sikaf. qusIN afpxI klm nfl jvfb iliKaf qy afÈf jI nUM ilKI gurbfxI ivcoN jvfb lwBx leI pRyrnf kIqI. mYN quhfzy keI lyK; ijvyN zfrivn dI iQAUrI bfry afid pVHy hn qy spwÈt huMdy hn. pr ies vfr mYNnUM afÈf jI leI iliKaF jvfb spwÈt nhI lwigaf. bVI myhrbfnI hovygI jy kr qusI ieh spwÈt kro; punrp jnm hY jF nhI? jy hY qF iks nUM qy ikvyN pqf lwgdf hY? jF ies nfl sbMDq hor svfl qFik afm jnqf quhfzy ivcfrF df lfB AuTf sky. DMnvfd.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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ig: sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

Gurmukh Piare S. Avtar Singh Missionary Sahib Jio

Sader GuruFateh Parvan karni Ji

Some time ago, I read your article in which you wrote a very encouraging information that during the time of Sri Guru Hari Gobind Sahib Ji, there were 6 million Nanak Panthi out of tatal population Indian of 9 million.

Since then many times I tried to write to you and to the paper to aks you the source of this information. But so far no reply.

I would be thankfull if you please tell me the name of that book from which you got this information. Being humble Parcharak, I would love to have this information so that I can coate it in my lectures telling Sangat that S. Avtar Singh Missionary Ji provided me this information.

Unfortunately now I forgot the name of the article and the name of paper as well.

Please reply in any case.

Piar Ate Satikar Sehit

Santokh singh

Sydney Australia

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The new name of the Sikh Mediawatch and Resource Task Force (SMART)

1413 K Street NW, 5th Floor www.saldef.org

Washington, DC 20005 Tel: 202-393-2700 Fax: 202-318-4433

SALDEF Community Guidance – July 2007

Airport Security and Your Rights as an Airline Passenger

HOW TO RESPOND TO A REQUEST TO SEARCH YOUR TURBAN

DO:

1. Remain calm.

2. Explain the significance of the turban as detailed below.

3. Comply with all agent directions.

4. Request to conduct the pat-down search in a private screening room.

5. Write down the name of the agent, the airport, the time and date, and the flight you

are boarding.

6. Keep a detailed record of your conversation and instructions provided during the

search.

7. Contact SALDEF at 1-877-91-SIKHS (1-877-917-4547) as soon

as possible.

DO NOT:

1. Get angry with the agent.

2. Yell at or use profanity or other inappropriate language with the agent.

About Sikhism: You can inform the agent that the turban is a religious head covering and an article of your Sikh faith. Allow them to screen your turban with the security wand. If they insist on patting down your turban you have the right to request a private room. If they further insist on removing the turban, they must offer a private room or screening area.

Your Rights As An Airline Passenger

• You are entitled to courteous, respectful, and non-stigmatizing treatment by airline

and security personnel.

• You have the right to complain about treatment that you believe is discriminatory.

If you believe you have been treated in a discriminatory manner:

1. Ask to speak to a supervisor.

2. Ask why you are being requested to undergo additional screening.

3. Ask for the names and identification numbers of all persons involved.

4. Ask for any witnesses to give you their names and contact information.

5. Write down the names of the persons involved, the location, the date and time,

and the progression of the incident including as many facts as possible.

6. Contact SALDEF at at 1-877-91-SIKHS (877-917-4547).

Disclaimer: This guidance is for informational purposes only. It does not necessarily reflect the current state of Transportation Security Administration Guidelines or other applicable laws, policies, or regulations and was developed solely by SALDEF.

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