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(06/05/08)
amrIk isMG DOl

Dear Editors,

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Can you please print the views of Prof: Harinder Singh Mehoob regarding the controversial issue put forward first time by Karam Singh, in the beginning of the 20th century under the high sounding name of scientific research.

I do not hold any particular views strongly. It is the Khalsa Punth who should decide for my sort of ordinary, insignificant and unimportant people what is the most correct date. The rest is with your wise, sincere and learned readers and researchers.

Yours sincerely

Amrik Singh Dhaul

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Guru Nanak’s Birthday

[ Note: Someone asked my opinion of his book and he wanted me to comment on the controversial issue of Guru Nanak’s birthday whether or not it falls on one of the two dates people believe. I told very clearly that I do not hold any particular bias for one of the two options. But, what information is available for Kattak from the saintly Sikh philosopher and poet, Prof: Harinder Singh Mehboob, who is currently writing an Epic on the lives of the Sikh Gurus, is presented here for the Sikh Marg readers and writers. Follows below an account of what I had written to my friend.]

- Amrik Singh Dhaul

Following the “so called historian” (akhauti it-haaskaar) Karam Singh’s line of thought, you said: “…. but, truly Guru Nanak’s birth date is in Vaisakh, and not in Kattak”. To emphasise your point you sought to advise the reader to read the book: “Kattak Ke Vaisakh?” which is full of judgemental naïve and ill conceived material seen as worthy “research”. It is nearly 100 years old and, more so, unwisely written exponent with a bias and bigotry.

You have badly failed to critically analyse by not building “for and against” arguments as a salient part of scholarly reasoning, which could have been conducive to the desired outcome. If your hypothesis was to prove Vaisakh as the legitimate birth date then your “desired outcome” could have been a natural conclusion resulting from your discussion following your healthy reasoning. Absence of such a dramatic progression of discussion in your exponent further failed to successfully convince the prudent reader. While writing such rational essays in future you should put yourself in sharp contrast with, and follow the example of, Prof. Harinder Singh Mehboob who has quite rightly built healthy reasoning in his book: Sehje Racheo Khalsa. Moreover, Prof. Mehboob’s prudent, detailed critical and analytical study or criticism of Sikh literature found in Punjabi, English, Hindi, and Persian languages meets the criteria for such an in-depth analytical evaluation and thorough study.

However, Prof. Mehboob writes on page 1 of his world famous book: Sehje Raheo Khalsa, “To bestow the biggest ever gift on humanity, Guru Nanak was born in Kattak in the Rai Bhoie Dee Talwandi …” ( Mehboob 1988:1, 1106 - 1110). Further, in his recently published books “Ilahi Nadar Dey Paindey”, Volume 1 (Mehboob 1999: 25-7, 88), he provides even more supporting argumentative scholarly reasoning. On page 88 he sings in poetry as:

Sammat sadi solvin Kattak

Dhhoond ke chan jagaaie

sMmq sdI solHvIN kWqk

ZUMz ky cMn jgfey

Raavi naal Jhnaa dey supney

Sandal baar tey aayey

rfvI nfl JnF dy supny

sFdl bfr qy afey

Similarly, really in-depth comments can be read in his more recent thesis in Punjabi poetry: “Ilahi Nadar Dey Painday”, Volume 4; (Mehboob 2007:35-37) relating to the (“akhauti it-haskaar”) “so-called historian” Karam Singh and others.

You also wrote that it was Bhai Vir Singh, the leading Traditionalist (Taksali) who led the way to promulgate for believing Kattak as the birth month of Guru Nanak, is an absolutely wrong fact. Please check your facts again. If it had been so, the famous writer of repute Isher Singh Nara would not have harshly criticised Bhai Vir Singh in his exponent: “Vaisakh Naheen, Kattak” on pages 125, 150 and 157 (Nara 1970:125,150,157). Prof. Mehboob also verifies this assertion (Mehboob 1999:31).

Further, Dr. Trilochan Singh, a gur-bhai (both present in the Khalsa initiation sacrament of self) of the famous 20^th century freedom fighter Bhai Randhir Singh, has mentioned names of 22 learned writers in his book: “Jiwan Chritter of Guru Nanak Dev”. All of them have unequivocally evidenced Kattak dee Puran-mashi as the legitimate and established birth date of Guru Nanak. So is the stance of the SGPC as is found in their seven Gur-pra-Naalian. Moreover, the Kabitt No. 345 of Bhai Gurdas also corroborates this fact.

Secondly, the issue of Bhai Balla as a concrete historic figure has been upheld in “Vaisakh Naheen, Kattak” by the wise author, Isher Singh Nara (1970), who has rendered an in-depth analytical study in this book (Nara 1970:189-259).

Please use this information for enhancing your repertoire of knowledge rather than seeing them my views. They are NOT my views, however.

Amrik Singh Dhaul

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(06/05/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

krm isMG ihstorIan dI ikqfb, ‘kqk ik vYsfK’ dy ivroD ivwc sR[ igafnI eIÈr isMG nfhrf ny afpxI ikqfb, ‘vYsfK nhIN kqk’ akqUbr 1970 ivwc CfpI. pRkfÈk, ipRtr qy ilKfrI vI Auh afp hI sI. ies ikqfb ivwc ihstrI vflI koeI gwl nhIN qy sR[ krm isMG ihstorIafn ny iesdf jvfb ies krky nhIN idwqf ikAuNik Auh 10 sqMbr 1930 nUM akfl clfxf kr gey sn.

ies ivcfrDfrf nUM kwtx vfsqy iewk hor vDIaf nukqf Xfd afieaf. Auh ieh hY ik imhrbfn, jo gurU arjn pfqÈfh dy mukfbly qy mhly CyvyN hyT ÈrIk bx ky bfxI Aucfrn kr irhf sI, ny vI sfKIaF ivclI vYsfK vflI qfrIK nUM nhIN CyiVaf. jy quhfzf mn kry qF ies gwl df jvfb jrUr dyxf ik igafnI eIÈr isMG nfhrf iks kdr dy guriswK sn. sR[ mwKx isMG jI horF TIk hI iliKaf hY ik mYN AunHF dI ieh ikqfb ies krky nhIN pVI ikAuNik igafnI eIÈr isMG jI mYnUM iksy kdr guriswK ivdvfn nhIN lwgy. jvfb dI AuzIk ivc.

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

(not:- ieh icwTI zf: idlgIr nUM sMboDn kr ky ilKI sI. ikAuNik Auh hux afpxy afp nUM ‘isWK mfrg’ qoN vwK kr cuwky hn ies leI asIN ies nUM aYizt kr ky pf rhy hF aqy keI gwlF ivcoN kwt idWqIaf hn-sMpfdk)

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(04/05/08)
bIrjoq isMG

United we Stand Divided we Fall

Having interest in Sikh Affairs, there is no hide in saying ‘Sikh Marg’ is one of Sikh Website being run updating Articles on Guru Granth Sahib Bani. Every writer of ‘Sikh Marg’ consider Guru Granth Sahib as ‘Sarab Kala Samrath’. Respect for ‘Shabad Guru’ as enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib, attributed as ‘Satguru of Sikhs’ as Guruship passed by tenth Nanak in 1708, Sikh was ordered to take Decision of Life, Guidance on every aspect from Guru Granth Sahib.

When every Writer on ‘Sikh Marg’ has so much respect for Guru Granth Sahib and is keen to spread Philosphy of Guru Granth Sahib, commonly known as ‘Dasan Guruan Di Jyot’, then in my view, there should be no ego/anger among any of writer, but we are all ‘Humans’ and are prone to mistakes, so as a Sikh of Guru Granth Sahib we sholve resolve matters by taking Guidance of Guru.

As a Student, I will humbly request all my elder Respectable Sikh Writers to leave aside their anger and differences and let be united to fight anti-sikh forces. Danger is quite high these days when ‘Pujari Tola’ is leading Sikh Panth to Nowhere and ‘Fake Letters’ under the sign of RSS program Visitor Jathedars (Tankhaiya themselves, accused of Polygamy) are circulated by ‘Dubious Character’ individuals sitting behind PC to confuse all E-Sangat.

Some Apanthic websites are seen missing ‘Guru Granth Sahib’ bani articles, and are busy promoting some Durga Stories or Incarnations of Hindu Mythology or Gossip Sex-Stories under the ‘Sweet-Coated’ name used as ‘Dasam’ to emotionally blackmail and confuse Sikh Youth. Dubious Character have brain-washed Young Sikhs so much, that Apanthic websites forgetting Important Issues hitting Sikh Panth like

a)Apostate/Patitpuna

b)Sikh Youth marrying Non-Sikh

c)Sikh Minority Rights

d)Akalis performing Brahmanical Rituals in Mandirs.

e)Sikh Taksals/Sampardas performing Havans.

f)Non-Follower Sikh Rehat Maryada individuals appointed as Granthis/Jathedars of Sikh Quam.

But are busy making cartoons on one of Respected Sikh Pacharaks – Prof.Darshan Singh and S.Jagtar Singh Jachak. They are wasting energy spitting venom on ‘One Granth Follower/Parcharaks’ as ordered by Tenth Nanak but hardly put any articles on Rashtriya Sikh Sangat Website’s Eminent Personalities, all ‘Two/Three Granth Follwers’

I remember, Dilgeer ji few days back write a very informative article regarding current Situation of Sikh Panth ‘Sikh Dharam Da Ki Banega’. And similar Painful Article depicting current Scenario of Sikh Panth was published by S.Gursharan Singh Kasel namely ‘Bhai, Kitte tu Gurmat di gal te ni Karnee’. Both the writers are on same track and have same Pain for Sikh Panth ? Then there is no reason for all not getting all Under One belt of Guru Granth Sahib Samarpat/Dedicated website ‘Sikh Marg’.

It’s a jodree/benti from one of the Sikh Marg reader (Sangat) to S, Harjinder Singh Dilgeer ji to leave aside differences and keep your articles maintain on Sikh Marg and keep updating ‘Sikh Marg’ with your informative Posts/Articles. We look forward toward you to clear many Doubts regarding Sikh History.

Difference of Opinion is healthy sign of Any Developed Quam and when we have Guru Granth Sahib ji with us to guide on every aspect, we can come out to any Solution with keeping base/kaswatti of Guru Granth Sahib. Similar request to S.Gurcharan Singh Brar ji and S.Gursharan Singh Kasel ji, last thing we don’t need is Infighting among ‘One Granth Followers’. Let us all be united and try to put more and more informative articles on Guru Granth Sahib Bani along with creating Awareness among Sikh Youth about Dangers these days from ‘Kesadhari Hindus’ who are bent to take Sikhism into Brahmanism under the name of ‘Puratan Maryada’

Let us all read, Guru Granth Sahib bani shabad and be united as ‘Gursikhs of Satguru’ and preach One Granth (Guru Granth Sahib),One Panth (Khalsa), One Maryada (SRM) as ‘Eko’ sidhant enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib.

pAuVI ] (GGS-648)

gurmuiK sKIaf isK gurU mylfeIaf ]

ieik syvk gur pfis ieik guir kfrY lfeIaf ]

ijnf guru ipafrf min iciq iqnf BfAu gurU dyvfeIaf ]

gur isKf ieko ipafru gur imqf puqf BfeIaf ]

guru siqguru bolhu siB guru afiK gurU jIvfeIaf ]14]

'Gurmukh sakhian sikh Guru Milayean

Ik Sewak Gur Paas Ik Gur Kaare Layean

Jina Gur Pyara Man Chit Tina Bhao Guru Devaiyan

Gur Sikha Iko Pyaar Gur Mita Putta Bhaiyan

Gur Satgur Boleh Sab Gur Aaakh Guru Jivaaeyan"

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(04/05/08)
jsbIr kOr iQMd mlysLIaf

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh.

I don’t know anyone of you personally. What I do know is that me and lots of my friends go to the Sikh Marg website and learn so much about Tatt gurmatt. Dr Dilgeer Jis articles are full of Gyan.

I would appeal to Dr Sahib Ji to withdraw his action  and continue posting on Sikh marg. I would also appeal to Makhan Singh Ji to keep on updating the site. I visit it almost every week and download articles for my friends and pass on to those who don’t have internet. Just because we do not write emails don’t mean we are not reading or visiting- we are the silent majority. as it is Tatt gurmatt has so little space - only Singh Sabha Canada and Sikh marg and Rozana Spokesman. Rest so many anti gurmatt sites providing wrong info.

Your younger sister

JKThind Malaysia.

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(04/05/08)
srbjoq isMG svwdI

gFDI dy ichry qoN ‘mhfqmF’ vflf mKOtf lhux vflI ikqfb “gFDI aMzr krOs aYgËfmInyÈn” nUM PrImFt ivwc irlIË kIqf igaf.

PrImFt (srbjoq isMG svwdI) amrIkn PoË ivwc bqOr krnl (irtfiert) srivs kr cuwky jI bI isMG aqy AunF dy sfQI itm bfstn vloN ilKI ikqfb “gFDI aMzr krOs aYgËfmInyÈn” nUM PrImFt ivwc iewk pwqrkfr smyln ivwc irlIË kIqf igaf. ikqfb ivwc gFDI vloN afpxIaF jIvn khfxIaF ivwc vfr-vfr ilKy JUT nUM jwg Ëfhr kIqf. ies ikqfb ivwc 1893 qoN lY ky 1914 qwk gFDI nfl aPrIkf ivwc krmvfr 1909-1924-1936 ivwc vfprIaF GtnfvF, ijMnF ivwc pRmuwK qOr qy gFDI nUM tryn ivwco Dwkf mfr ky suwt dyx dI khfxI nUM mUloN hI rwd kIqf hY. krnl jI bI isMG ny pwqrkfrF nfl gwlbfq kridaF ikhf ik tryn vflI Gtnf gFDI nfl vfprI hI nhIN. ieh iewk mnGVq khfxI hY. Aunf iewk tYlI mUvI idKfAuidaF ikhf ik Bfrq srkfr tryn vflI GtnF nUM komfqrI pwDr qy pRcwlq krn aqy Xfd nUM qfËf krn leI Bfrq ivwc AuWc ahudy qy ibrfjmfn iksy nf iksy ivakqI qoN Ausy tryn ivwc Xfqrf krvfAudI hY. AunF ikhf ik 2002 ivwc BfrqI suMdrIaF, 2003 ivwc BfrqI ikRkt tIm, 2004 Bfrq dy sfbkf rfÈtrpqI abdul klfm koloN 2006 ivwc pRDfn mMqrI mnmohn isMG koloN ies gwzI ivwc Xfqrf krvfeI geI. krnl jI bI isMG ny ikhf ik ies ikqfb nUM pVHn qoN bfad ijhVy lok gFDI nuM sFqI df msIhf mMndy hn AunF sfiraF df Brm dUr ho jfvygf ik gFDI dI aslIaq kI sI. ies qoN pihlF vI krnl jI bI isMG ny “ibhfeINz df mfsk afP izvIintI” ikqfb rfhIN gFDI df kfPI pKMz nMgf kIqf sI. ies smyN krnl jI bI isMG ny amrIkn pwqrkfrf nfl qswlI bKÈ svfl juvfb kIqy. ies pwqrkfr sMmyln df sfrf pRbMD ‘iswK ienPrymÈn dy koafrzInyÈn’ sf Bjn isMG iBMzr ny kIqf sI.

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(04/05/08)
BfeI kfn isMG nfBf Drm pRcfr Porm, kfnpur

Ç ÃÄsiqgurU pRsfid] Ç

“jfgrqI Xfqrf” jF “bRfhmxI Xfqrf” !

Kflsf jI awj asIN Èbd gurU sfihb gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI iqn sO sflf gurqf gwdI ÈqfbdI mnf rhy hF. afAu! afpxy ihrdy qy hwQ rK ky ieh pVcol krIey ik vfkeI asIN Èbd gurU dI 300 sflf ÈqfbdI mnf rhy hF ik afpxI cODr aqy svfrQF dI Kfqr gurU dy nfm qy isrÌ ÉfnF pUrI hI kr rhy hF.

kuJ kU virh pihlF qKq hËUr sfihb ivKy gurdvfry dI nvIN iblizMg dI AusfrI, AuQy dy lokF ny puils mihkmy dy iewk vwzy afPIsr psrIcy nUM sONpI. ieh bMdf ikMnf kU pMQk hY, ieh Aus dy rMgy hoey dfhVY nUM vyK ky aqy Aus dIaF by isr pYr dIaF qkrIrF sux ky hI pqf lg jFdf hY. aYzy vwzy iswK ieiqhfsk sQfn dI ijmydfrI leI ieho ijhf bMdf hI kOm nUM ikAuN aqy ikQoN lwB gieaf. ies df isDf ijhf jvfb hY ik Auh srkfrI phuMc vflf aqy vwKvfdI ihMdU rfÈtr dy ihmfieqI, kwtr ihMdUvfdI sMgTn df chyqf hY. ieh iswK ivroDI sMgTn, BtkI hoeI iswK kOm nUM ihMdU smfj df iewk ihwsf bxfAux dI koeI kor ksr nhIN Cwzxf cfhMudy. dfs df iswDf ieÈfrf afr[ aYs[ aYs[ vl hY.

gurU svfry iswK vIro! ieQy dfs df mMqv iksy ivakqI ivÈyÈ qy icwkV AuCflnf nhIN hY. lyikn jy koeI bMdf iswK isDFqf df apmfn kry jF gurU AupdyÈF df apmfn kry qF Auh Gor inMdf df pfqr hY. aPsos dI gl ieh hY ik gurdvfry dI nvIN iblizMg dI AusfrI dI afDfr iÈlf rKn df jÈn ies bMdy ny “BUmI pUjx” dy rUp ivwc mnfieaf sI. ijs ivwc sfzy hor vwzy pMQk adfiraF dy afgU mOjUd sn jo Aus kuMz ivwc jÜ afidk vI pf rhy sn. iek cODrI nUM kI roeIey ieQy qy sfrf afvf hI AUq gieaf hY.

ies bMdy df ijkr ies lyK df ivÈf vI nhIN hY, ijkr jrUrI sI ies leI kIqf gieaf hY ikAuN ik ieh bMdf hI “jfgRqI Xfqrf” dy rUp ivwc kOm nUM AuWlU bxf irhf hY. BolI BflI iswK kOm ÈÈqrF vflI gwzI dy tfier pUMj pUMj ky afpxI ÈrDf df pRgtfvf kr rhI hY. ieh kwcI soc vfly iswK hI qy ienHF cODrIaF df inÈfnF huMdy hn. AuhnF ivcfiraf nUM qy koeI ieh dwsx vflf vI nhIN ky iswK “Èbd” df pujfrI hY “ÈÈqrF” df nhIN! ÈsqrF df snmfn krnF iewk alg ivÈf hY. kroVF rupieaf iekwTf krky, kI ienHF ny iswK smfj dy piqq puxy dy suDfr leI Krc krnF hY jF Drm pRcfr leI? ieh pYsf iswK rihq mirafdf dIaF DwjIaF Auzfx leI aqy nfnk ÈfhI klMzr dy ivroD leI ieh sfrf Dn afr[ aYs[ aYs[ dI mrËI nfl Krc hoxf hY, ies gwl df aMdfËf iblkul spÈt hY iesy leI gurqf gwdI purb nfnk ÈfhI klMzr dI avhylnf kridaF hoieaF, 20 akqUbr (nfnk ÈfhI qfrIÉ anusfr) dI QF, 30 akqUbr 2008 nUM (bRfhmxI jMqrI anusfr) mnfieaf jf irhf hY. ijs nUM pUrf iswK smfj aqy sfzy srvAuc Dfrimk adfiraF dy afgU vI afpxI prvfngI dy cwuky hn qF hI Èfied ieh sfry mon hn. afAu mUl ivÈy vwl cfq mfrIey:

iswK pMQ dy do qKq – qKq hËUr sfihb aqy qKq ptnf sfihb qy viraF qo bRfhmx vfdI, iBÈtR pRbMD qMqr aqy iswK rihq mirafdf df apmfn krn vfly kuwJ lokF df kbËf hY. ieh lok pMQ Aupr kdoN aqy ikvyN kfbË ho jFdy hn ies nfl sfzy pMQk afgUaF aqy iswK kOm nUM kdI vI koeI srokfr nhIN rihaf.

ienHF do qKqF Aupr idn rfq iswK rihq mirafdf df KwulHf mËfk Auzfieaf jf irhf hY. Èbd gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df BrpUr apmfn kIqf jf irhf hY. aqy sfzy pMQk cODrI aqy bRfhmx vfdI rIqF ivwc glqfn iswK kOm, mUk drÈk bx ky ieh sfrf qmfÈf keI viraF qo vyK rhI hY. jo gurU df iswK ies ivÈy qy afpxI afvfË AuTfAuNdf hY, Aus dI avfË guMzf grdI nfl dbf idwqI jFdI hY.

pMQ afgUaF koloN kuJ svfl

1-qKq hËUr sfihb ivKy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy nfl pMj Cy gRMQF df pRkfÈ hY. ik afm ÈrDflU iswKF nUM ieh pqf hY ik Auh ijQy mwQf tyk rhy hn AuhnF ivwc AunHF dy ipRaf: Èbd gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ikhVy hn?

2- gurU dy snmuK mwQf tykx vflIaF sMgqF (jo gurU rUp hn) vl gRMQI ipT kr ky bYTf hY. aqy iewk syvf dfr Aus nUM sMgqF vl ipT kr ky cOr kr irhf hY?

3- gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df pfT ho irhf hY, nfl hI rfgI kIrqn kr rhy hn kI ieh mirafdf aDIn hY?

4- swc KMz ivKy dsm ipqf dI Poto lgI hoxf, joq jgfAuxf, cMdn iGs iGs ky sMgqF nUM iqlk lgfAuxf, dIvy QfÜ ivwc rK ky ÈÈqrF dI afrqI krnf. mwuK qy kpVf bMn ky iqlk DfrI pujfrI df ÈÈqrF vfly kmry ivwc pRvyÈ krnf. aqy AunHF dI pUjf krnF, ÈsqrF nMU dwuD nfl ieÈnfn krvfnf aqy AunHF awgy DUxI jlfAUnF, AuQy mOjUd sfihb gurU gMRQ sfihb vl vyKxf qk nhIN, kI ieh vI iswK rihq mirafdf df koeI ihwsf hY? ik iswK isDFqF aqy Èbd gurU df ieh apmfn nhIN?

awj Èbd gurU df apmfn krn vfly bRfhmxI ivcfr Dfrf vfly pujfrIaF aqy pRbMDkF df ivroD krn dI bjfey sfzy hor pMQk adfry AuhnF nfl kMDy nfl kMDf rlf ky AuhnF dI “jfgrqI Xfqrf” dI agvfeI kr rhy hn aqy bwukF dIaF bwukF sMgq pfsoN iekwTf kIqf Dn AuhnF dI JolI ivwc pf rhy hn.

gurU svfry iswK vIro aqy BYxo! kI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI, iswK rihq mirXfdf aqy nfnk ÈfhI kYlMzr df ivroD krn vfly kOm ivwc koeI “jfgRqI” pYdf kr skdy hn. iek pfsy gurU gRMQ sfihb df apmfn ho irhf hovy aqy “isK rihq mirXfdf” dy Ault “iswK isDFqF” df mÉOl Auzfieaf jf irhf hovy. dUjy pfsy asIN “300 sfl gurU dy nfl” df dfavf krIey ieh qy korf JUT hY hor kuwJ nhIN. Èbd gurU dI swcI ÈqfbdI qF ienHF qKqF qy “iswK rihq mirXfdf” bhfl kr ky hI mnfeI sfrQk ho skdI hY. ieh kMm inzrqf aqy iewCf ÈkqI nfl iewk jut ho ky ienHF qKqF dy mhMqF aqy pujfrIaF df ivroD krn nfl hI mumikn hY. 1903 dI “isMG sBf lihr” df ieiqhfs iewk vfr iPr dohrfn dI jrUrq hY. pr! svfrQI, zrpok, ahMkfrI aqy lflcI srkfrI cftUkfr Dfrimk afgUaF dI aYzI vwzI BIV ivc, ikQoN lwBIey igafnI idwq isMG vrgf gurU df bytf aqy inzr lIzr, jo dXfnMd dI bxfeI iswK ivroDI mhfiÈaF aqy lflyaF dI POj nfl kwlf hI iBV gieaf. ieh gurU df ipafrf, qF qd qwk cwup nF bYTf jdoN qk drbfr sfihb ivcoN, iewk iek pujfrI aqy mhMq nUM bfhr nF kwZ swuitaf. poRPYsr drÈn isMG jI df Auh lyK Xfd afAuNdf hY- “hr ÈfK py AuWlU bYTf hY, ies bfg kI hflq ikaf hogI…?

BfeI kfn isMG nfBf Drm pRcfr Porm

kfnpur

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(03/05/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor and Dr. Harjinder Singh ji Dilgeer,

Today I read the letter by Dr. Dilgeer where he has stated to remove all his articles from Sikhmarg website.

It is very unfortunate that learned Sikh Historian has taken such an adverse decision.

I have been following the messages on your website for past few days.

Mr. Gursharan Singh ji Kasel (whom I know personally, is a very humble, honest, helping and learned GurSikh. He personally helped me a lot when I first came to Canada though he didn’t knew me at all) asked for the reason why Dr. Dilgeer oppose Nanakshahi Calendar and what is the evidence that Guru Nanak was born in Katak.

I know that the way Kasel ji wrote is not his usual tone, but Dr. Dilgeer should have removed the doubts.

Personally I agree with the research of Karam Singh Historian but I am ready to change my views if some concrete and solid evidence is provided. As Michael Shermer states :

“History is a knowledge and like all knowledge it progresses and changes.We continually refine our certainty about claims and that’s what historical revisionism is all about.”(Why People Believe Wierd Things, p179)

Regarding Nanakshahi Calendar my views are that it is the waste of time and resources of Sikhs. Also I have read Dr. Dilgeer’s views about Nanakshahi calendar and I agree with his views. I dont use and I dont think I will ever use it. I dont know about others.

So I humbly request Dr. Dilgeer to not withdraw his articles from Sikhmarg website as they are well researched articles and provide good knowledge about many unknown historical facts.

Historical knowledge is not just obtained from reading one or two books, Dr. Dilgeer’s articles speaks for themselves, though we all may not agree with his views.

Lets all agree to disagree.

hoie iekqR imlhu myry BfeI duibDf dUir krhu ilv lfie ] hir nfmY ky hovhu joVI gurmuiK bYshu sPf ivCfie ]1] (GGS, 1185)

Come and join together, O Brothers; dispel your sense of duality and let yourselves be lovingly absorbed in the Lord. Let yourselves be joined to the Name of the Lord; become Gurmukh, spread out your mat, and sit down together to resolve your differences.

Gurpreet Singh Sumra Brampton, Canada

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Thanks S. Gurpreet Singh Sumra for your nice advice.

 Gyani Jarnal Singh Arshi from Malaysia has also requested him to tear off his Bedawa so that we may continue to follow Gurus' Teachings as brothers and sisters. 

Since SGPC and its Head Ministers wish to follow Katak Pooranmashi as the Birthday of Guru Nanak Sahib, Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer's view may be then why not accept 20 October 1469, which is equivalent to Poornmashi of 1526 Bikram, rather than changing every year? 

And if it is 15 April 1469, they Nanakshahi Calendar should also commence from that date wby Chaitra or Vaisakh ??, which are based on Lunar and Solar Calendars ? 

As regards the socalled Nanakshahi Calendar, it is merely a copy of the Hindus Saka Calendar except advancing 7/8 days. Dr. Pal Singh Purewal, IOSS, SGPC and their toadies have all erred by changing all the past dates on false pretext.

I have already sent Email to SGPC and other well-wishers but no one is going to change stand as most of them have become Kathputlees / Robots in the hands of RSS Hindutva.

I am sure Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer will change his mind and continue to share his Articles on Website: www.sikhmarg.com in the best interest of Guru Panth Globally.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(02/05/08)
qijMdr isMG

Respected vir ji

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.

Veer ji you have written a letter dated 27.04.2008 in your site. The last line is that u will not update the site if some people give some reasons.

You know many people do not like this site specially sants and babaas and so many likes.

They will take advantage of your this offer and will flood your site with messages to close this site.

So please do not think like this. If any body does not like anything on this site then he should not visit this site or read it.

Please continue with your present policies and keep on updating this site as before.

Thanks.

Tejinder singh.

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(29/04/08)
srvjIq isMG

igafnI Èyr isMG vI JUTf

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sYkrfmYNto (kYlyPornIaf) ivKy dsm gRMQ bfry (23 PrvrI 2008) hoey aMqr rfÈtrI sYmInfr ivwc igafnI Èyr isMG dy Èfml hox bfry sYmInfr dy pRbMDkf vlo pRcfr kIqf igaf sI. pr igafnI Èyr isMG sYmInfr ivwc Èfml nhI hoieaf. pRbMDkf vlo igafnI Èyr isMG dI gYr hfjrI ivwc Aus dI iewk vIzIAu ivKfeI geI. Xfd rhy ieh vIzIAu 31 jnvrI nUM qKq sRI dmdmf sfihb ivKy hoey sMmfgm smyN bxfeI geI sI. pfTk ies vIzIAu nUM http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/3899/2008-02-14.html dyK skdy hn.

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BfeI jsibMdr isMG Éflsf dI pihlI ikqfb ‘dsm gRMQ df ilKfrI kOx?’ (Bfg pihlf) jUn 2006 ivwc rlIj hoeI sI aqy kroV rupieaf dyx df aYlfn lyKk vlo qKq sRI kysgV sfihb jI dy muK syvfdfr igafnI qrlocn isMG jI nUM 29 jUn 2005 ivwc ilKy gey pwqr ivwc kIqf igaf sI. ieh pwqr ‘dsm gRMQ df ilKfrI kOx’ Bfg pihlf dy pMnf nUM: 268 qy piVaf jf skdf hY. BfeI jsibMdr isMG Éflsf dI dUjI ikqfb 28 sqMbr 2007 nUM cMzIgHV ivKy rlIj kIqI geI sI. Aus ikqfb df rivAU gurmuK ipafry BfeI s: amrIk isMG DOl vlo kIqf igaf hY aqy pfTk Aus nUM pVH cuwky hn. ijs qoN ieh spwÈt ho igaf hY ky ig: Èyr isMG aMbflf styj qoN JUT hI nhI boldf sgo guriswK ivdvfnF nUM anpVH dsdf hoieaf Kqrnfk DmkIaF vI dy irhf hY.

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afdr sihq

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afdr sihq

srvjIq isMG

(not:- asIN sfeIt nUM awpzyt bMd krn bfry iliKaf sI nf ik sfeIt nUM hI bMd krn bfry. Bfv ieh sI ik asIN afpxf hor smF jo hr hPqy ies qy lfAuNdy hF Auh lfAuxF bMd kr dyvFgy. ijqnI ku jfxkfrI pY cuwkI hY Auh hI TIk hY. aqy jy kr koeI afpxy lyK htfAuxf cfhuMdf hovy htf dyvFgy. gwl bhuqI pYsy dI nhIN smy dI hY. pYsy qF asIN keI sflF dy zomn nym aqy hositMg dy pihlF hI Ëmf krvfey hoey hn-sMpfdk)

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(29/04/08)
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siqkfr Xog mwKx isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

afp jI ny jo ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ dy bMd krn dI gwl kIqI hY. iesƒ bMd krn bfry qF quhfƒ socxf hI nhIN cfhIdf. mYN qF smJdf hF ik ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ sfzy leI swB qoN cMgI hY ijQy isrP gurbfxI dI ivcfr huMdI hY. qusIN iekwly hI iesdf sfrf Krcf vI shfr rhy ho. mYN jo QoVI ijhI gurmiq bfry jfxkfrI hfsl kIqI hY Aus ivwc ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ df muwK Xogdfn hY. ijs pfTk ƒ ieh aiBmfn hY ik ieh sfeIt isrP Ausdy lyKf jF icwTIaF krky cldI hY, Auh AusdI mrËI hY afpxy lyK jF icwTI Byjy jF nF Byjy. mYN ies sfeIt ƒ sihXog dyx leI hr qrHF nfl afp jI dy nfl hF.

afp df ÈuBicMqk,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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(28/04/08)
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Dear S. Makhan Singh jee Purewal (Canada),

  Waheguru jee ka Khalsa  Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Every week, I have been getting a lot of vaulable Gurmatt Knowledge by reading various Articles in Punjabi. Please continue this selfless Seva.

As regards, solution of such controversies or (between Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer and S. Gursharan Singh Kasel) as joined by S. Gurcharan Singh Brar Jeownwala & Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon..... I am of the view that in future when any person raises any issue or wishes to seek certain clarification from other person, you may wish to send his views by Email to the person concerned with a request to respond to the said person under advice to you. If still remains unresolved, then only it should be shared on Website for others views/comments, if so desired.

Once, I was also caught but when I responded, discussion came to an end though at the first instance, personal issue raised could not have been shared on Website !!

In regard to my doubts about Nanakshahi Calendar, you may pass on my Email to M/s Kasel and Brar so that they can assist me with specific replies not exceeding two or three paragraphs in English or Punjab as private correspondence [ OR ] give me Email Address of S. Gursharan Singh Kasel.

With best wishes,

Gurmit Singh (Sydney)

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(28/04/08)
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sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI iswK Drm df pRcfr krn leI jo nIqI qusIN apxfeI hoeI hY Ausdy leI isMG sBf ieMtrnYsnl kYnyzf quhfzf bhuq bhuq DMnvfd krdI hY qy kfmnf vI krdI hY ik qusIN afAux vfly smyN ivc vI iesy qrHF inrMqr ies pRcfr dy islisly nUM jfrI rwKo.

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gurU pMQ dy dfs,

isMG sBf ieMtrnYsnl kYnyzf.

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(27/04/08)
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(20/04/08)
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mfn PokI Èohrq leI aÉbfrF dIaF surÉIaF `c afAuxf cfhuMdY: zoz

kotkpUrf, 19 apRYl (guirMdr isMG mihMdIrwqf) : hrI rqn Xukqf jI dy 12 apRYl nUM pRkfÈq hoey lyK ivcoN hMkfr jF inMidaf dI boa nhIN afAudIN. sgoN iewk icMqk qy cyqMn lyKk vjoN AunHF ny bRfhmxvfdI rsmF nUM iswKF vloN apxf ley jfx `qy ivcfr crcf kIqI hY. pr mfn dl vloN ies lyK ivwc koeI Éfs gwl nf hox kr ky ies nUM 15 apRYl qk nf gOlxf qy 15 qfrIÉ nUM apxI ivsfKI dI kfnÌrMs dI Ébr spoksmYn ivwc nf dyK ky ros vjoN 16, 17 qy 18 apRYl nUM ies lyK nUM rfeI df phfV bxf ky pyÈ krn bfry Cpy ibafnF `coN eIrKf dI boa JlkdI hY ijhVI ik iewk rfjnIqk pfrtI vfsqy bhuq hI mfVI gwl hY. ienHF ÈbdF df pRgtfvf kridaF iksy smyN ismrnjIq isMG mfn dy nyVly sfQI rhy qy mfn dIaF Êlq nIqIaF kr ky akflI dl aMimRqsr (pMj pRDfnI) dy jQybMDk skwqr bxy BfeI suKdyv isMG zoz ny kIqf. AunHF mfn nUM svfl kIqf hY ik ies lyK ivcoN isrÌ quhfnUM hI ieh kuwJ nËr ikAuN afieaf? jy afieaf vI qF ivsfKI qoN bfad hI ikAuN afieaf? AunHF puiCaf ik mfn sfihb ipClI ivsfKI `qy, qrn qfrn, bfbf buZf jI qy mMjI dIvfn hfl aMimRqsr ivKy hoey smfgmF mOky sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI hËUrI ivwc zFgo-zFg ho ky quhfzy ihrdy ikAuN nf vlUMDry gey? AunHF ikhf ik ÈRomxI kmytI vloN pRkfÈq ikqfb iswK ieiqhfs `c iswK gurUaF nUM lutyry, zfkU qy hor apmfn-jnk ÈbdF nfl sMboDn kIqf igaf quhfzy ihrdy AudoN vI ÈFq rhy? bfdl dI BfeIvfl pfrtI Bfjpf dy afgU aYl[ ky[ azvfnI dI ikqfb dIaF kfpIaF quhfzI pfrtI ny ikAuN nf sfVIaF qy Aus ivruD mfmlf drj krn dI mMg ikAuN nf kIqI? AunHF ikhf ik hrI rqn Xukqf mfn dl df buDIjIvI sYWl df pRDfn ho ky jy mfn dy sohly gfvy qF Auh buDIjIvI hY qy jy mfn dI pfrtI dI ivsfKI kfnÌrMs dI Ébr spoksmYn ivwc nf lwgy qF spoksmYn dy sMpfdk qy hrI rqn Xukqf `qy prcf drj krn dI mMg ÌokI ÈOhrq hfsl krnf nhIN qF hor kI hY? mfn PokI ÈOhrq leI aÉbfrF dIaF surKIaF `c afAuxf cfhuMdf hY. AunHF sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM ikqfb ilKx bfry mfn sfihb dy igly nUM byhUdf dsidaF ikhf ik mhfn ivdvfn qy iswK icMqk BfeI kfnH isMG nfBf dI ikqfb mhfn koÈ dy pMnF nMbr 436 ivwc AunHF iksy gwl df hvflf dyx mOky sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM mhfn pusqk iliKaf hY. AunHF ikhf ik mfn sfihb Éud afeI[ pI[ aYs[ aÌsr hox nfqy ies gwl qoN axjfx ikAuN hn ik dÌf jF Dfrf nIXq nUM muwK rwK ky qYa kIqIaF jFdIaF hn. hrI rqn Xukqf dI nIXq sfzIaF BfvnfvF nUM Tys phuMcfAux dI nhIN ikAuNik AunHF iliKaf hY ik “mYN spwÈt kr idaF ik mYN qF iewk ÈrDflU dy nfqy ies bRfhmxI rIq nUM gurU Gr ivwc cldI vyK ky jfxnf cfhuMdf hF ik ies nUM iswKI ivwc ikAuN pRvfn kr ilaf igaf? mYN ikMqU nhIN kr irhf, kyvl jfxkfrI hI mMg irhf hF”. AunHF ikhf ik ieQy lyKk dI nIXq mfVI nhIN ikAuNik keI vfr qF mfVI nIXq nfl siq sRI akfl bulfeI vI pRvfn nhIN kIqI jFdI. AunHF ikhf ik iewk afdmI apxIaF anmol qy kImqI ilKqF nfl iswK kOm dI syvf kr irhf hY pr mfn isrÌ aÉbfrF dIaF surKIaF `c afAux leI qy ÌokI ÈOhrq Kwtx leI Aus mhfn ÈÉsIaq ivruD prcy drj krn dI mMg kr irhf hY. s[ zoz ny ikhf ik mfn nUM s[ bfdl qy afr[ aYs[ aYs[ df QfpVf iml igaf hY ikAuNik pihlF vI qF spoksmYn `qy srkfr dy QfpVy nfl hI prcy drj hoey sn. iesy ibnfa `qy mfn sfihb spoksmYn `qy prcy drj krn dIaF zINgF mfr rhy hn.

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(20/04/08)
ivcfr crcf ivcoN kuwJ ivcfr

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

All these political and religious Sikh leaders have outlived their utility, if any. Since they are not interested to retire, they deserve the same treatment as was meted to the egoist and greedy Masands by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib. 

As no one extended any assistance to the Editor Joginder Singh except discharged Faujis and other common persons, now the current corrupt regime is unable to digest his progress in the form of ROZANA SPOKESMAN. Like Rajay Sheenh Mukadum Kutay... (GGS 1288), they wish to entangle him in different court-cases over silly matters because they can't match him. 

Badal, Vedanti, Makkar and other Pujaris have already failed, so others will also lick the dust whether editors of Ajit or santsipahi or brahminical cults or such frustrated and defeated persons.

Gyani Jarnail Singh and Khalsa Harjinder Singh have already explained that no offence has been committed by calling Granth as Book, there being no other equivalent English word. It is just as Amrit Initiation - Khanday Dee Pahul is written as "Baptism" in the Sikh Reht Maryada (1945, SGPC). Then no action against SGPC. Gurduaras in foreign countries continue to be described as Temple including Golden Temple ??

Let us strengthen the VOICE OF SPOKESMAN and extend our assistance and cooperation by way of Tann, Mann, Dhann Daswandh.

Gurmit Singh (Australia) 

Guru Piayario

I have also said it before.... this isnt about anything except Language/Vocabulary/semantics.. Wasnt it Shakespeare that wrote - a Rose by any other name is still a Rose ? We get all riled up about the English word "Book" and are perfectly at ease with the exact same word "Granth" in Sanskrit/Hindi/Punjabi/Urdu ?? why ?/ the right word is ETERNAL GURU because the Divine Message is ETERNAL..aad SACH jugaad Sach Nanak hoise bhee Sach...its the MESSAGE not the physical trappings....after all the physical human dehs of our Guru sahibs have also left this earth..1469-1708..BUT their MESSAGE is HERE and will be Forever..in whatever FORM..the next millineum may show..whoever ever imagined CD/DVD/Internet/WWW..memory sticks/flash cards/hard disks..etc etc when Bhai Gurdass Ji was scribing the AAD Granth Ji in the 16th century ?? Who can tell what MEDIUM is coming NEXT ?? BOOKS may go out of fashion alltogether...where are the stone tablets of the babylonians? the leather leaves of the egyptians...SIKHISM/GURMATT is the FUTURE and not time bound to any MEDIUM. The WORLD is becoming PAPERLESS !!! BUT the DIVINE MESSAGE off GURBANI/SGGS will OUTLIVE everything....Genuine SATIKAAR of SGGS is reading/vichaar and LIVING GURBANI - as our Gurus did..our ancestors did...fokeh RITUALS are for Fokeh sikhs

Yukta just posed a query...and Sardar joginder Singh ji has answered it rather well..i would say..others should have answered the question according to Guru nanak Jis gurbani...ROSS na keejey UTTAR deejeh..Provide the answers and not get OFFENDED. Others will ask even more questions..GURU NANAK JI was asked so many questions....even addressed as BALAKl..BUT GURU JI didnt take offense at all..GURU JI answered each and every one of the questions..just read SIDDH gost Bani in SGGS. Guru Ji didnt lodge a FIR..How dare this oldie call me Balak ?? arrest him immediately !!! what type of Sikhs are we ?? GURMATT is all time SACH..it has the power to stand up and be counted against all odds and enemies - within and without.

Jarnail Singh Gyani

Dear All,

How thick can one get ....

Granth means Book (substantial book, tome). Guru Granth means Teacher Book or Enlightener Book, and this Enlightener Book is our Living Guru !

The Guru Granth these days also comes in the form of software that is part of a website, on a cd or other software carriers. You could than call it the Guru CD or the Guru Website, and it will still be the Living Guru.

Gurfateh.

Harjinder Singh

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(17/04/08)
avqfr isMG imsLnrI

iswK sYNtr rYizMg kYlyPornIaF dI ivlwKx ivsfKI

(avqfr isMG imÈnrI) gurduafrf iswK sYNtr rYizMg kYlyPornIaF ivKy Kflsf sfjn idvs vYsfKI dy sbMD ivwc ijwQy ÈukRvfr nUM gurbfxI df aKMz pfT arMB kIqf igaf, gurduafry nUM KUbsUrq sjfieaf igaf, lMgr aquwt vrqy, ÈnIvfr nUM bIbI srbjIq kOr cImF dy jQy ny gqky dy KUbsUrq ËOhr idKfey EQy pihly kfnPRMs mIitMg kIqI geI ijs ivwc amYrkn goiraF nUM ivÈyÈ qOr qy bulfieaf igaf. sfzy imÈnrI jQy nUM vI ivÈyÈ qOr qy pRogRfm qy bulfieaf sI. kfnPrMs mIitMg ivKy sB bulfiraF ny afpxy afpxy ivcfr pyÈ kIqy. pRbMDkF aqy bulfiraF ivwc ivÈyÈ sn-ig[ amrjIq isMG, zf[ hrivMdr isMG "ibrk", sYktRI lYNhbr isMG dusFJ, sR[ gurmyl isMG, sR[ mohn isMG, bIbI srbjIq kOr, bIbI hrismrq kOr Kflsf, istI myhr im[ kIq vYbstr, crc muKI tOm mfrf aqy ims lIn PYirk pfdrI afidk. gurU gRMQ pRcfr imÈn afP USA vloN Dfrimk iltRycr dI stfl lgfeI geI ijwQy ijafdf iltRycr amYrkn goiraF ny ilaf aqy iswKI dy icMn kVf aqy KMzy krIb hryk amYrkn ny lY ky pihny. AunHF ivwc iswK Drm bfry jfnx df BfrI AuqÈfh sI. bfbf gurcrn isMG aKMz kIrqnI ny vI aKMz pfT dI syvf kridaF sroiqaF nUM iswKI bfry pRyrnf idwqI.

KUbsUrq njfrf Es vyly dyKx nUM imilaf jd gOry gorIaF dsqfrF sjf aqy pMjfbI sUt pf ky hU-bhUh pMjfbI lwg rhy sn. gorIaF nUM pMjfbI sUt bhuwq hI suhxy lwg rhy sn. ieh sB pwgF aqy sUt iswK sYtr rYizMg vloN PrI idwqy gey sn. ieh BrfqrI Bfv df ivlwKx idRÈ sI. gory gorIaF pMjfbI Kfxf bVy svfd nfl Kf rhy sn. bhuq sfry gory gorIaF ny dfsF dI Dfrimk stfl qy af ky iswK Drm aqy klcr bfry svfl puwCy ijnHF dy jvfb Kfs krky bIbI hrismrq kOr Kflsf ny bVy AuqÈfh nfl idwqy. BfvyN ies ielfky ivKy sMgq svfeI hY pr amrIknF ny pMjfbI sUt pf ky sMgq dI rOxk vDfeI. aijhF idRÈ dfsF ny pihlIvfr ivdyÈ ivwc vyiKaf. asIN ies kmytI aqy sMgq dI qfrIP krdy hF ijnHF ny gYr iswKF nUM ieqnI vwzI igxqI ivwc gurU Gr ivKy bulfieaf. bfkI gurduafiraF nUM vI aijhI ivÈflqf idKfAuxI cfhIdI hY aqy suwc iBwt jfq pfq qy kwtVpuxy df iqafg krnf cfhIdf hY. iswK Drm srbsFJf Drm hY ijs df ijkr gurU gRMQ sfihb ivKy keI vfr af cuwkf hY-sBy sFJIvfl sdfien aqy avl alfh nUr Aupfieaf kudriq ky siB bMdy] (gurU gRMQ jI) asIN ies ivÈfl srbsFJI ivcfrDfrf nUM kyvl gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy bfhrI siqkfr aqy rumfilaF ivwc hI vlytI iPrdy hF. awj sMsfr aijhI sFieMtyiPk ivcfrDfrf nUM qrs irhf hY ijs nUM dunIaF dI hryk bolI ivwc pRcfrn dI loV hY.

aYqvfr nUM inÈfn sfihb df colf bdlx dI syvf pMjF isMGF dI rihnmfeI hyT kIqI geI. aKMz pfT dI spmfpqI AupRMq dIvfn sjfey gey ijs ivwc pihlF gurU Gr dy muwK gRMQI Bf[ amrjIq isMG aqy sfQI blrfm isMG jI ny kIrqn kIqf, zf[ "ibrk" jI dy mfmF jI ny kwcI bfxI dIaF Dfrxf vI lfeIaF. iewk trwk zRfeIvr guriswK hrdyv isMG ny Kflsy dI Èfn ivwc kivqf gfeI. sMgq dy AuWGy syvk sR mohn isMG ny vI Èbd kIrqn nfl hfjrI lvfeI. ies qoN AupRMq dfs avqfr isMG imÈnrI ny Kflsf sfjn idvs vYsfKI aqy iswK rihq mrXfdf qy Bfv pUrq kQf kIqI ijs ivwc ijwQy pRbMDkF dy ies Auprfly dI srfhnf kIqI EQy ikhf ik iknHF cMgf hovy jy ies gurU Gr ivKy "iswK rihq mrXfdf" vI lfgU kIqI jfvy aqy vwzy vwzy coilaF vfly ByKI sfDF sMqF df KihVf Cwz ky gurU dy hI lV ligaf jfvy ikAuNik gurU jI ny sMq ispfhI Kflsf sfijaf sI nf ik kyvl sMq. iPr bIbI hrismrq kOr Kflsf ny kIrqn viKafn krdy hoey aslI aMimRq gurU kI bfxI nUM drsfieaf-"aMimRq Èbd aMimRq hY bfxI" (gurU gRMQ jI) ies qoN bfad afKrI lYkcr sR gurmyl isMG jI ny idwqf jo Kflsy dI cVHdI klf bfry sI. sfzy syvf pRcfr qoN pRBfvq ho ky igafnI jI, pRDfn jI aqy sMgqF ny awgy qoN vI afAux df swdf idwqf.

ieh sfrf Auprflf gurU Gr dy muwK gRMQI Bf[ amrjIq isMG aqy gurduafry dy PfAUNzr pRDfn sR[ hrivMdr isMG "ibrk" aqy hor pqvMqy swjnf df sI. ijnHF ny rfq idn iewk krky bhuwq hI QoVy smyN ivwc KUbsUrq gurduafrf iqafr kIqf hY.

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(14/04/08)
jiqMdr isMG

Dear Bhai Makhan Singh ji

Waheguru ji khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fathe

Bhai Sahib ji firstly a extremely thanks for running gurmat site sikhmarg.com. I want to know one thing that why katha is not being held at shri harminder sahib, Amirtsar, is it any rule if yes then could u please tell us the history for always meditation with kirtan not with katha

thanks

Jatinder Singh

(ieh iek purfxI glq prMprf qurI af rhI hY ijs df ik gurmiq nfl koeI sMbMD nhIN hY. ies qrHF dIaF hor vI keI rvfieqF hn jo ik ibwlkuwl hI gurmiq qoN Ault hn. ijvyN ik bIbIaF nf qF hirmMdr sfihb kIrqn kr skdIaF hn aqy nf hI koeI hor syvf. ieh sB iswKI isDFqF dy muZly asUlF dy hI Ault hY. jy kr koeI ies ivc qbdIlI krnf cfhy qF prMprfvfdI, zyrfvfdI aqy smuwcf pKMzI sfD lfxf asmfn isr qy cuwk lYNdf hY. rfjnIqk lok votF dI Kfqr iksy nUM nrfjL nhIN krnf cfhuMdy, isWKI isDFqF df BfvyN mlIaf myt hoeI jfvy-sMpfdk)

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(14/04/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

HARMONY DAY FOR SIKHS

The Sikh Congregation Halls (Gurduara Sahib) established by the Sikhs all over the world are the best example of Harmony and friendly environment where all persons irrespective of caste, colour, gender, race, region, religion and status are welcome to participate and share free food as equals. This concept is well known as "Sangat and Pangat". Hence, we all should live in Harmony and Peace.

Extracts from Guru Granth Sahib, Sacred Scripture of the Sikhs

pMnf ñõ: isrIrfgu mhlf ñ]

nIcf aMdir nIc jfiq nIcI hU aiq nIcu] nfnku iqn kY sMig sfiQ vizaf isAu ikaf rIs]

ijQY nIc smflIain iqQY ndir qyrI bKsIs] ô] ó]

Guru Nanak Sahib says that I crave for the company of those persons, who are the most humble and of the lowest status in society because I don’t wish to associate with the wealthy people, who are full of ego. Moreover, the True Lord also bestows blessings and Grace on those humble people.

pMnf ù÷: rfgu mfJ mhlf õ]

sBu ko afsY qyrI bYTf] Gt Gt aMqir qUMhY vuTf]

sBy sfJIvfl sdfiein qUM iksY n idsih bfhrf jIAu] ó]

Everyone in this Universe has been pinning high hopes on the Almighty God because the True Lord pervades in the hearts of all beings. All people consider themselves as equal partners in receiving God’s benedictions and none perceives God as a separate Entity.

pMnf ñøñ: gAuVI guafryrI mhlf õ]

qUM myrf sKf qUM hI myrf mIqu] qUM myrf pRIqmu qum sMig hIqu]

qUM myrI piq qU hY myrf ghxf] quJ ibnu inmKu n jfeI rhxf] ñ]

O God! You are my own and mate. You are my dearest and well-wisher relative. You are my Honour and my valuable possession. Even for a moment, I cannot afford to live without God’s support.

pMnf óøö: afsf mhlf õ]

pr kf burf n rfKhu cIq] qum kAu duKu nhI BfeI mIq] ó]

O Mate! Never entertain any ill will or enmity against anyone else. Thus, you will not experience any suffering in life.

pMnf öññ: soriT mhlf õ Gru ò cAupdy]

eyku ipqf eyks ky hm bfirk qU myrf gur hfeI]

sux mIqf jIAu hmfrf bil bil jfsI hir drsnu dyhu idKfeI] ñ]

O Friend! God is our Father; we all are the children of the same Father and we are brothers & sisters having blessed with the greatest virtues by the True Lord. Listen and enable me to have a glimpse of the True Lord-sublime, and I would offer myself as a sacrifice to you.

pMnf ö÷ñ: DnfsrI mhlf õ]

nf ko myrf dusmnu rihaf nf hm iks ky bYrfeI] bRhm psfru psfirE Biqir

siqgur qy soJI pfeI] ò] sBu ko mIqu hm afpn kInf hm sBnf ky sfjn]

dUir prfieE mn kf ibrhf qf mylu kIE myrY rfjn] ó]

Neither we have any enemy or bitter feelings against others nor there is any one having enmity against us. By virtue of Gurus’ Teachings, we have been made to realize that the Almighty God, who is pervading throughout the world, is present within our hearts. Now we have made all the persons, as our friends and we too are friendly towards the whole world. Once we are united with God, all our afflictions, due to separation from the True Lord, have been cast away.

pMnf ÷òø: sUhI mhlf ñ Gru ò]

hm nhI cMgy burf nhI koie] pRxviq nfnku qfry soie] ô] ñ] ò]

We are not good and others are not bad. Guru Nanak Sahib prays: O God! You alone are the Saviour of all.

pMnf ññøõ: bsMqu mhlf õ Gru ò ihMzol]

hoie iekqR imlhu myry BfeI duibDf dUir krhu ilv lfie]

O Good Mates! Let us sit together and get rid of our difference and duality by attuning ourselves to God. Let us lead Truthful life by performing noble deeds.

pMnf ñòùù: kfnVf mhlf õ]

ibsir geI sB qfiq prfeI] jb qy sfDsMgiq moih pfeI] ñ] rhfAu]

nf ko bYrI nhI ibgfnf sgl sMig hm kAu bin afeI] ñ]

jo pRB kIno so Bl mfinE eyh sumiq sfDU qy pfeI] ò]

O Brother! Since the time, we have enjoyed the company of true devotees we have got rid of the jealousy of others. Now we find no one is our enemy or a stranger as we have developed love for the whole mankind. By virtue of God’s benediction, we have gained the right guidance in the company of true devotees.

pMnf ñóôù: ibBfs pRBfqI bfxI kbIr jI kI]

avil alh nUru Aupfieaf kudriq ky sB bMdy]

eyk nUr qy sBu jgu Aupijaf kAun Bly ko mMdy] ñ]

First of all, the Almighty God created the Divine Light and thereafter, whole universe came into existence. Since from the One Light, whole universe has welled-up, there should not be any doubt: "Who is good, and who is bad?"

pMnf ñóøò: slok syK PrId ky]

PrIdf bury df Blf kir gusf min n hZfie] dyhI rogu n lgeI plY sBu ikCu pfie] ÷ø]

Sheikh Farid says that try to be nice to a person, who has inflicted some injuries and loss to you, without bearing any malice towards him, as this forgiveness will result in your eternal bliss else you will be fretting and fuming inside with revenge, and you will gain everything in life.

Gurmit Singh, Tel. No. 61 2 9837 2787

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(13/04/08)
gurÈrn isMG ksyl

sMpfdk sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jIE,

vfihguru jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

bynqI hY ik ‘pMQk vIklI’ vYb sfeIt `qy iksy zf[ hrBjn isMG pitaflf vwloN ilKI ilKq “sRI dsm gRMQ: ivroDIaF ƒ Auqr” pVHI sI. Aus ivwcoN iewk- do gwlF dy bfry mYN afpxy ivcfr zf[ sfihb qIkr phuMcfAuxf cfhuMdf sI. ies krky mYN pMQk vIklI dy sMpfdk jI ƒ bynqI kIqI sI ik ieh myrI icwTI afpxI vYb sfeIt `qy lf dyx; pr pqf nhIN AuhnF iks mËbUrI krky myrI ies mfmUlI icwTI ƒ afpxI ‘vYb sfeIt’ `qy lfAux df hoNslf nhIN kIqf. so, hux afp jI ƒ ieh bynqI krdf hF ik qusIN myry ieh mfmUlI ivcfr afpxI vYb sfeIt `qy lfAux dI myhrbfnI kro qF ik zf[ sfihb qIkr gwl phuMc sky. ies leI afp jI df DMnvfdI hovFgf.

zf[ hrBjn isMG jI, vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

zf[ sfihb, afp dI ies icwTI ivwc qF bhuq kuwJ iliKaf hY pr mYN afp jI nfl isrP do gwlF bfry hI ivcfr krnI hY.

afp ny iliKaf hY, “kflf Èbd df arQ qF swB ƒ pqf hY, Ërf aPgfnf df ivÈlyÈx vI kr leIey. aPgfnf Èbd dy muZly arQ- rOlf, Èor-Èrfbf; ivrlfp, Èok afid hn”. kI afp jI ƒ ieh igafn nhIN hY ik ‘kflf aPgfnf’ iewk ipMz df nFa hY? ies ipMz ivwc keI afdmI afp jI dy dfdf, ipAu, vwzy Brf, dfdI, mF, BYx, DI aqy keI hor irÈqydfrF dI brfbr Aumr dy lok ies ipMz ivwc rihMdy hn. afp jI ny jo gflHF AuhnF sfiraF ƒ kwZIaF hn kI afp vrgy gurmiq dy ivdvfn aqy XUnIvristI dy zfktr aKvfAux vfly iensfn ƒ soBdIaF hn? kI afp jI dwsx dI Kycl krogy ik ‘kflf aPgfnf’ vfsIaF ny afp jI df kI vgfiVaf hY? kI afp jI ƒ iensfnIaq qOr qy ‘kflf aPgfnf’ ipMz vfilaF qoN ies hrkq dI mfPI nhIN mMgxI cfhIdI? kI afp jI ny jo gflF pypr `qy ilwKky kwZIaF hn kI qusIN ieh sfrI ‘imwTI bolI’ Aus ipMz jf ky AuQoN dy vsnIkF sfhmxy bolx dI Ëuraq krogy?

dUsrI gwl, afp jI ny iliKaf hY ik, “ienHF ivcoN pihlf nfm hI iksy aisK df hY, ikAuNik jfiqvfd ivwc ivÈvfs rKx vflf koeI ivakqI kdy vI gurU df isK nhIN ho skdf”. kI afp jI df koeI vI irÈqydfr afpxy nFa nfl ‘goq’ (Family Name) nhIN ilKdf? jy ilKdf hovy iPr qF qusIN Aus nfl irÈqydfrI rwKdy ho jF nhIN? ikAuNik qusIN qF Ausƒ iswK hI nhIN smJdy? kI quhfzy pRIvfr dy irÈqy hryk brfdrI ivwc hoey hn?

afs krdf hF ik afp jI jvfb ËrUr dyvogy. hF swc myrI ivafkrx bhuq mfVI hY ies dIaF glqIaF kwZx qy afpxf kImqI smF Krfb nf krnf jI.

siqkfr sihq,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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(13/04/08)
bIrjoq isMG

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh !

A very warm Congratulations to all on Khalsa Sajna Divas. Lets promise ourselves to Read, Understand and Apply message of Guru Granth Sahib ji (Dasan Guruan Di Jyot). And for all who have not taken Khande-Di-Paul shall take Initiative this Vaisakhi to be Baptized.

All Sikhs should get United, to spread Guru Granth Sahib message all over Globe and celebrate 300 sala Gurgaddi Divas of Sahib Guru Granth Sahib in OCT, 2008.

Sikh Marg and Singh Sabha Canada has done great effort in Guru Granth Sahib Parchar and trying to update Sikhs all over on Current Sikh Affairs. It is really nice to see Updated Articles on Guru Granth Sahib Bani on Routine basis from S.Gurbachan Singh Thailand, Gurcharan Singh Kasel, Gurcharan Singh Brar, S.Jagtar Singh Jachak, S.Gurmeet Singh ji and many other Great Parcharaks of Guru Granth Sahib Philosphy.

It would be great if Service Providers can start Discussion Groups so that 'Sikh Youth' like us can input and start Forum threadz as majority Websites are controlled by Non-Followers of Sikh Rehat Maryada (basically Dera/Taksal/Jatha followers) who don't listen Truth as it is Bitter and they Restrict Freedom of Speech .

Few of the Vaisakhi Resolutions Sikh shall Adopt:

a)Guru Granth Sahib is complete Guru and have Highest Authority in Sikh Religion.

b)Guru Panth can be defined as 'Individuals' considering Guru Granth Sahib as complete and pass each Decision on Kaswatti/Touchstone of Guru Granth Sahib.

c)Those individuals who don't consider Guru Granth Sahib complete and need other Books/Granths(written by whosoever) to make Guru Granth Sahib 'Complete' in their aspects, [ as they still consider Guru Granth Sahib incomplete in ?Shakti? and ?Sex-Desire Control? ] can't be counted as 'Panths' but can be considered as Hypocrates ?

d)Let us Raise Voice to Replace Failed Pujari-Tola from Top Sikh Institues, and place Individuals who have both Religious as well Administrator Qualities and they shall have background in Study/Experience from Sikh Panthic Organisations who have been Preaching Sikh Rehat Maryada (SGPC-1945) and Guru Granth Sahib message only. Sikh Takhats shall stop placing Takhat Sewadars from Taksals/Sampardas/Jatha's who never followed and preahced Sikh Code but only Publicised their Dera Maryadas and make fun of Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sgpc-1945) in their Deras/Taksals ? And when they are placed Jathedars at Akal Takht ? How can they apply and preach same Sikh Rehat Maryada on Sikh Institues and Sikh Guru Ghars all over . Root Cause lies here only. 'PLacing Wrong People at Right Places'

e)Solve Long-Pending issues of Ragmala, Meat Issue, Dasam Granth by collective Sittings by listening voices from all Sides ? To say there is no Difference of Opinions is Joke in itself ? No one shall impose One side views and try to play Jathedars with False Tricks and make Hue & Cry and get Difference of Opinion individuals Ex-Communicated ? As they consider Danger from Opinions ? Sikhs are all Sons of Guru Granth Sahib and should resolve issues and ignore 'Individuals' responsible for creating Haterdness among others on some Sensitive Issues by able to get issue Fake Edicts ?

f)Base of Sikhism should be kept as -Guru Granth Sahib -Sikh Rehat Maryada (SGPC-1945) Even though there may b few limitations in Code that need to be corrected and brought more in line with Guru Granth Sahib by 'Panthic Representatives' but till any further change is made, we all need to accept and apply current version of Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sgpc-1945) in our Lives.

g)Principle of 'Eko' as being taught by Guru Granth Sahib, Sikhs shall also go by One Granth (Guru Granth Sahib) One Panth (Khalsa) One Maryada (Sikh Rehat Maryada-sgpc, 1945)

Regards,

Birjot Singh

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(12/04/08)
svwdI inAUjL vloN

itpxInumf

“gMgf sfgr bnfm pMj kkfr”

awj kwlH iswKF nUM gMgf sfgr df cMgf buKfr ciVHaf hoieaf hY. aqy gurduafiraF ivwc drÈn krfAux df islslf ËfrI hY. BfvyN gMgf sfgr df ieiqhfsk koeI pRmfx nhIN imldf, BfeI kfn isMG nfBf jI ny vI ‘mhfn koÈ’ ivwc ijQy gurU sfihb dIaF vsqF jF hiQafrF df iËkr kIqf hY. Aus ivwc vI gMgf sfgr df koeI bhuqf iËkr nhIN kIqf. keI purfxy ieiqhfskfrF ny isrP loty df iËkr kIqf hY. loty df iËkr rfeykot Èihr nfl sbMDq hY. jd gurU gibMd isMG jI ny rfey kwlHf ky Gr ivÈrfm kIqf hY. Aus vyly dI iewk mnGVHq khfxI hY jo ik gurmiq dI ksvwtI qy pUrI nhIN AuWqrdI aqy hY vI gYr-kudrqI, khfxI ies qrF hY ik gurU sfihb ny duwD pIx dI ieCf prgt kIqI. qF Aus vyly nF qF duwD hI sI nF koeI duwD dyx vflI mwJ sI, aqy nF hI duwD pfAux vflf koeI BfzF sI, qF gurU sfihb ny kol KVHy afdmI nUM ikhf ik Auh ijhVI afAusr (Bfv sUey aqy Joty dy sumyl qoN ibnF) JotI KVI hY Aus nUM co lvoN qF awgoN afdmI ny ikhf ik jI ieh qF afAusr hY duwD dy nhIN skdI qF gurU sfihb ny ikhf qUM QfpI mfr afpy duwD dyvygI. qF Aus ny awgoN ikhf ik afpxy kol qF duwD pfAux leI koeI BfzF vI nhIN qF gurU sfihb ny ieh lotf idwqf (gMgf sfgr) qoN awgo afdmI ny ikhf ik, ies ivwc df glIaF (Cyk) hn, qF gurU sfihb ny ikhf qUM JotI co, ies ivwc duwD zulHy gf nhIN. ieh hY gurU sfihb dy ienklfbI jIvn nfl joVI hfsohIxI mngVHq khfxI jo ik hY vI gYr-kudrqI.

keI ieiqhfs kfrF ny ieh vI iliKaf hY ik ieh iewk ierfnI imsqrI vloN iewk ivigafnk qknIk nfl iqafr kIqf hoieaf lotf (BfzF) hY aqy ieh hor vI keI sQfnf qy Kfs krky arb dy ÈyKF dy GrF ivwc mOjUd hY. ies loty nUM vI iksy ÈrDflU ny gurU sfihb nUM ByNt kIqf sI. duwD df nF zuwlxf koeI gYbI ÈkqI nhI ieh qF iewk ivigafnk qOr qy hvf dy dbfAu dI krfs ivDI hY. jo awj kwl bwicaF dy duwD pIx vflIaF boqlf ivwc vI mOjUd hY. ieMglYNz dI iewk kMpnI ny bwicaF dy duwD pIx vfsqy boqlf iqafr kIqIaF hn, jo ik amrIkf dy sfry storF qoN iml jFdIaF hn. AunF boqlF dy Qwly ivwc glIaF (Cyk) hn. AunF glIaF ivwc dI duwD nhIN zuwldf pr hvf krfs huMdI hY. ies boql nfl bwcf duwD sOKf pI skdf hY. pihlIaF boqlF ivwc jd bwcf duwD pIdF sI qF cuMgx smyN inwpl ipwck jFdI sI. kI ienF boqlF nUM vI mwQf tykxf ÈurU hovygf?

iswK kOm dy Boly px df hmyÈf Pfiedf hI AuTfieaf jFdf hY lMbf smF pihlf iewk slmf nf dI bIbI ny kMGy ivwc kys rwK ik ieh kihxf ÈurU kr idwqf ik ieh gurU goibMd isMG jI dy kys hn aqy ieh AuhI kys hn jo gurU sihb ny pIr buwDU LÈfh nUM ByNt kIqy sn. jdoN ik bfad ivwc pqf lwgf ik Auh aslI nhIN sI, jd nUM Auh pYsy iekwTy kr ky lY geI sI, 1974-75 dy lfgy igafnI ËYl isMG cwkI dy pOV lY ky af igaf sI ik ieh AuhI cwkI dy pOV hn jo gurU nfnk dyv jI ny bfbr dI Ëyl ivwc pIsI sI, aqy igafnI jYl isMG iswKF dIaF kfPI votF hfsl krn ivwc kfmXfb ho igaf sI. ipwCly smyN ivwc iewk sMq koeI purfxf kiCwhrf lY ky af igaf ik ieh vI gurU sfihb df hY. iksy nUM ibËns ivwc Gftf pY jfvy qF Auh iksy nfmvfr sMq nUM ieQy ilaf ik, iswKF qoN vwzI pwDr qy pYsy iekwTy krky afpxf Gftf-vfDf pUrf kr lYdf hY. ikMnf ku icr iswK kOm afpxI Aun lhfAudI rhygI?

gMgf sfgr (loty) df ijwQoN qwk suafl hY pihlF df gMgf sfgr Èbd hI iswK iPlfsPI nfl myl nhIN KFdf dUsrf jykr asIN mMn vI lYNdy hF ieh gurU sfihb nfl sbMiDq hY qF iPr ieh iksy imAUjIam Ëf qoÈf Kfnf ivwc ÈÈobq hoxf cfhIdf hY nf ik pYsy iekwTy krn leI vriqaf jfvy. aY gur iswKo agr qusIN gurU dI insfnI nUM ipafr krnf hI hY qF gurU sfihb dI insfnI ijs nUM asI gurU dI mohr vI kihMdy hF, Bfv pMj kkfrF nUM ipafr kroN ijnF qoN asIN bymuwK ho rhy hF. awj dy iswK dI dÈf ieh ho geI hY gMgf sfgr vrgy BFizaF nUM qF mwQy tyk irhf hY. pMj kkfr ijnF dI gurU goibMd isMG jI ny afp bKÈÈ kIqI hY AunF nUM mKOl kr irhf. jy koeI aMimRqDfrI isMG KVHf hovy qF Aus nUM mKOlIaf nËrIey nfl hI dyiKaf jFdf hY. kfÈ awj df iswK cMgy-mfVy dI prK kr sky.

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(11/04/08)
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ig: iekbfl isMG ƒ dsm gRMQ bfry jnqwk bihs leI cuxOqI

nvIN idwlI, 11/04/2008 : qÉq ptnf sfihb dy jwQydfr ig: iekbfl isMG vwloN sRI akfl qÉq sfihb dy sfbkf jwQydfr aqy pRiswD pRcfrk pRo: drÈn isMG ƒ iek mhIny bfad ‘qnÉfhIaf` krfr dyx dI DmkI df iswK avyarnYWs gruwp vwloN sÉq noits ilaf igaf hY. awj gruwp dy dPLqr ivwc hoeI iek hMgfmI mIitMg ivwc gruwp dy ahudydfrF ny ies ivÈy `qy ivcfr-vtFdrf kIqf aqy ies nqIjy `qy phuMcy ik ig: iekbfl isMG pMQ-ivroDI ÈkqIaF dy hQ-Toky bx ky pMQ-pRsq pRcfrkF ƒ ivvfdF ivwc AulJfAux aqy AunHF vwloN kIqy jf rhy gurmiq pRcfr ƒ rokx leI GtIaf ÈbdfvlI vfly Pqvy jfrI krn `qy AuqfrU ho gey hn.

ies mOky sR: gruwp dy vfeIs-cyarmYn sR: svrx isMG ny ikhf ik ig: iekbfl isMG dUijaF `qy doÈ lgfAux qoN pihlF afpxI pIVHI hyTF sotf Pyrx. AunHF ikhf ik ig: iekbfl isMG `qy syvfdfr nfl bdPYlI krn, afpxI pihlI pqnI ƒ qlfk idwqy ibnF dUjI aOrq nfl ivafh krn aqy qÉq sfihb dy cVHfvy ivwc Gply krn dy gMBIr afrop lwgdy rhy hn. kfƒnI qOr `qy Auh qÉq sfihb dy jwQydfr qF dUr, iek gRMQI vI nhIN hn. gruwp vwloN pRkfiÈq kIqy jFdy mYgËIn ‘ieMzIaf avyarnYWs` dy mfrc 2008 aMk ivwc AunHF `qy gMBIr ielËfm lgfey sn pr AunHF ny ies bfbq cuwp vwtI rwKI. pr Éud Auh pRo: drÈn isMG vrgy sqkfrq pRcfrk qoN spÈtIkrn mMg rhy hn aqy pRbMDkF ƒ AunHF dy kIrqn/pRcfr `qy pfbMdI lgfAux df afdyÈ dy rhy hn.

mIitMg dy aMq ivwc sR: srbjIq isMG ny ikhf ik ig: iekbfl isMG vrgy pujfrI kOm ƒ drpyÈ gMBIr msilaF ƒ sulfAux leI qF zwkf BMn ky dUhrf krn df kÈt nhIN krdy pr iswKF ƒ bRfhmxvfdI cflF qoN sucyq kr rhy pRcfrkF dIaF rfhF `c roVy atkfAux leI pwbF Bfr hoey rihMdy hn. AunHF doÈ lgfieaf ik aijhy pujfrI afr[aYs[aYs[ dy eyjMt dy ieÈfiraF `qy iswK kOm ƒ inwq nvyN BMbl-BUisaF `c pfeI rKdy hn. AunHF ikhf jykr ig: iekbfl isMG sMpUrn dsm gRMQ ƒ gurU goibMd isMG jI dI ikRq mMndy hn qF pRo: drÈn isMG iKlfPL Pqvy jfrI krn qoN pihlF Auh gruwp dy pRqIinDIaF nfl mIzIaf dI mOjUdgI ivwc, gurU gRMQ sfihb dy AupdyÈF dI rOÈnI ivwc KulHI bihs krky afpxf dfavf shI sfibq krn.

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(11/04/08)
gurmIq isMG astRylIaf

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Dear S. Makhan Singh jeeo,

Thanks for the updated Messages as on 10 April 2008.

1) You have aptly explained that Gurbaani from Japp Jee Sahib to Mundavani contained in the Guru Granth Sahib is the Supreme and Highest HukamNama/Reht for the Sikhs and we all should obey as ordained by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib before breathing his last on 7 October 1708.

In his Book: RehatNamay, Author late Prof. Piara Singh Padam had explained that all such Rehat Namas were written by some Sikhs at the end of 18th Century by using the names of those Sikhs, who were very close to Guru Gobind Singh Sahib simply to make them acceptable...

Retired Lecturer Author Harinder Singh Mehbood in his Book: "Sehje Rachio Khalsa" has also stated that past HukamNamas are not real, and are false.

The modern brahmins in the guise of Sikhs have been spreading falsehood and as such Sikhs should make use of their own Intellect in conformity with the Divine Knowledge reflected through the Guru Granth Sahib.

Amrit Initiation Ceremony by means of Khanday Dee Pahul is to take admission in Sikh religion as we do in Schools/Colleges or join any other service like Police, Military, etc. But for the purpose of further studies with a view to elevate our lives for attaining emancipation in life, we should read, comprehend and follow Gurbaani as the True Way of Sikh Life - Truthful Living as expected from a Sachiaar - Khalsa, an ideal and noble person.

2) In regard to another Email, I shall be grateful if you could kindly share my Article on Chaupayee, recently sent to you, though sufficient information is already available on Website: www.sikhmarg.com under the names of other Authors.

Thanks for your Seva.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(11/04/08)
drsLn isMG

agY jfq n joru hYY agYY jIAu nvYY (GGS p-469)

IN THE HEREAFTER IS VALUED NEITHER CASTE NOR POWER

To my understanding some Sikh Scholar are misunderstanding Gurubani.They are saying there is no such thing called (SOUL) Jivatma, if they  are correct than there is no Paramatma, Hukam, no Karta .They are saying there is nothing after death of a body, that is the end of it. Some times, I feel that perhaps they are atheist Sikhs. Some of them are my friends; we are working together with SSI a charitable organisation opening Missionary centres in Punjab.

We had many discussions on this subject i.e.Atma, Soul, Spirit, and Matter, They are adamant.

In my quest to find answers from (GGS) Gurubani in English and Punjabi and I found 44 times Guru jee has used this word agYY this means in the hereafter.

1-nFnk jy ko apo jFxYY agYY gieaf n sOhy---p 5

2-agYY gieaF jFxaYY ivx nFvy vykfr-------p 16

3-agYYY sfhu sujFn hYY lYYsI vsq smfil-----p 22

4-ijnI sqgurU syivaf iqn agYY imilaf QFA –p 43

5-aYYQYY agYY hir nfm sKfeI-------------p 230

6-mnmuK mugD n cyqih nfhI agY gieaf pCuqfvy –p 441

7-agY krxI ikrq vfcIa bih lyKf kr smJfieaf—p 464

8-agYY jfq nf jor hYYY agYY jIAu nvy--------------469

9-agYY nfA jfq nf jiesI mnmuK duKu Kfqf--------p 514

10-mnmuK agYY lyKf mSgIaf bhuqI hovy mfr--------p 1280

All the other pages are----469-470-472-450-16-556-581-591-595-647-649-730-734-762-851-950-952-960-994-1010-1016-1049-1063-1094-1238-1240-1280-1284—1383-851.

To support my research there is another word sbd  used by Guru jee in GGS that is afgYY which is used about 59 times. Please read it here below.

1-afgY sh Bfvf ik n Bfvf---p 357

2-afgY suKu guir dIaf-------p 626

3-afgY suKu pfCyY suKu---------p 609

4-afgY suKu myry mIqf---------p 629

5-afgY srpr jfxf--------   p 579

6-afgY hukmu n clY-------     p 579

7-afgYY hI qy sBu ikCu--------p 383

8-agfhf kU qRfiG ipCf, Pyir n muhzVf---p 1096

9-afgY kAu ikCu qulhf bFDhu ikaf Brvfsf Dn kf—p 1253

10-afgYY drgih kfm n afvY CuiT clY aiBmfnI—p 379

All the other pages are from GGS -302-211-255-1063-891-216-893-52-866-533-871-533-391-1010-151-829-1238-62-199-951-214-1159-1029-13-28-45-107-112-116—143—151-155-205-214-216-349.

As I understand Guru Bani which is telling us to be care full you are not alone some system is watching us, observing us, it is invisible, it is silent it is a eye in the sky nothing is out of reach for this kind of largest telescope in the universe it can see us as well as read our minds.We should tell our cleaver minds to become a Gurmukh nothing more nothing less otherwise get ready for Divine order (Hukam). Gurmukh will know what kind of Divine order he will receive at the end of his life while living in his body. Munmukh will be fooling them until the last breath of their lives than it will be too late.

Darshan Singh

9054502029

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(10/04/08)
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pRo[ drÈn isMG qlb

aMimRqsr/qlivMdr buwtr

qÉq sRI ptnf sfihb dy jQydfr igafnI iekbfl isMG ny iek vfrI iPr qYÈ `c afAuNidaF akfl qÉq dy sfbkf jQydfr pRo[ drÈn isMG ƒ dsm gRMQ dI ivroDqf krn dy doÈ ivc 10 meI ƒ qÉq sRI ptnf sfihb ivKy qlb kIqf hY.

pRYs ƒ jfrI kIqy gey hukmnfmy dI kfpI rfhIN igafnI iekbfl isMG ny ikhf ik iksy vI ivakqI ƒ dsm gRMQ df inrfdr krn df aiDkfr nhIN qy iPr akfl qÉq dy sfbkf jQydfr pRo[ drÈn isMG vrgf ies pivwqr gRMQ dI aflocnf krdf hY qF ieh kdficq brdfÈq nhIN kIqf jfvygf. AunHF ikhf ik awj qÉq sfihb qy pMj ipafiraF dI iek iekwqrqf hoeI, ijs ivc srbsMmqI nfl PYslf krky pRo[ drÈn isMG ƒ 10 meI ƒ qÉq sRI ptnf sfihb ivKy pMj ipafiraF dy snmuwK pyÈ hox dy afdyÈ jfrI kIqy gey hn. AunHF ikhf ik pyÈ nf hox dI sUrq ivc iekqrÌf kfrvfeI kr idwqI jfvygI. AunHF ikhf ik pMj ipafiraF dI 13 apRYl vfly ivsfKI vfly idn muV iekwqrqf hovygI, ijs ivc hor keI pMQk mOky ivcfry jfxgy.

(not:- iekbfl isMG dy jIvn bfry jfxkfrI jo ik "ieMzIaf avyarnYWs" dy mfrc aMk ivc CpI sI Aus nUM pVHn leI ieWQy kilk kro jI. ieh pI: zI: aYWP: PormYt ivc hY)

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(10/04/08)
mnjIq isMG

Some Doubts about Rehatnamas Generally Quoted by our Preachers

Because of Vaisakhi Purb nearby, all Guru Ghars are very busy in Amrit Parchar. Some Guru Ghars have special programs. Efforts are being done by well wishers of Panth to bring as many people as possible into the khalsa Panth fold.

Some preachers are overzealous in this effort and to prove their points, they are quoting from Gurbani as well as other sources like "Rehatnamas". Some of these quotes have created doubts in my mind that is why I am writing this letter to you. I request you to please help me in clearing these doubts by writing a few lines or suggesting me some articles/books already available on this subject. Alternatively, any scholar reading my letter can help me in clearing my doubts by writing a well searched article on the subject.

1. Some preachers in their effort to do Amrit Parchar interpret Gurbani word "NIGURA" (i.e. a person without any Guru) as a person who has not part taken Amrit. They condemn non-Amritdhari people with all sorts of names as are mentioned in Holy Scripture for the "NIGURAS". Is it correct and justified? Is it justified to condemn a big section of "SANGAT" like this?

2. Other preachers in their effort to prove their point quote from "REHATNAMAS". Recently, I heard a preacher saying:

"He who keeps long hair without partaking Pahul is a hypocrite or deceiver and dumb"

I checked this quote. I got a book written by Mr. Piara Singh Padam named "Rehatnamein". According to this book, these lines are from Rehatnama written by Mr. Sahib Singh. I read this Rehatnama and found many things which are not in line with Sikh Philosophy. For example:

a. (Guru says) If you keep hair or do not keep hair, I do not care. I care only if you love me.

b. A Sikh should carry out "Saraadh" for his dead ancestors performed through Brahmin Sikh only.

c. A Sikh should do "puja" and "daan" during Solar Eclipse.

d. A Sikh who will read "Muktinama" written by this author and bathe at Muktsar Sarovar will get "mukti".

e.

3. I heard another preacher saying:

"Hooka kutha charas tamakoo, Ganja topi _____ khakoo

Inki aur na kabhu dekhe, rehatwant so sikh bisekhe"

I checked this quotation in the same book as mentioned above. This couplet is from "Rehatnama Desa Singh". Mr. Desa Singh writes next stanza as:

"A Sikh can take small amount of hemp (Bhang) and opium without any fear, but he should not take larger amounts and become addicted"

In another couplet, he writes:

"When going to battle-field, Sikh should consume "Madira" or hard liquor, but in peace times, he should not look at it"

4. I read other Rehatnamas also like by Bhai Nand Lal, Bhai Prehlad Singh etc. They preach many things which do not go in line with what is generally considered as Sikh Philosophy not to talk of teachings of Holy Guru Granth Sahib. Following are few things mentioned in these Rehatnamas:

a. He who does not bathe with cold water is tankhayia.

b. He who consumes goat or sheep milk is tankhayia.

c. He who touches "gadha" (donkey or Hooka?) is tankhayia

I request you to please help me in clarifying my doubts about the above mentioned issues.

Best regards,

Manjit Singh

(aslI rihqnfmf qF gurbfxI hY. jo vI ilKq gurbfxI dI ksvwtI qy pUrI nf AuqrdI hovy Auh mMnxXog nhIN, BfvyN Auh iksy vI nfm Qwly pRclq ikAuN nf hovy. aMimRq qF pRmfqmf df nfm hY aqy Auh hr iensfn dy aMdr hY. ies aMimRq nUM sLbd df zol bxf ky aMdroN kwZ ky pIxf hY. isWKI ivc dfKly leI phul dI mrXfdf hY. ieh gurbfxI anusfr jIvn jIAux leI ieh iek pRx hY. isWK Drm smuwcI mnuwKqf df Drm hY aqy jo vI iensfn iek akfl purK nUM sB df krqf mMndf hY aqy sB ivc Aus dI hI joq nUM dyKdf hY aqy iksy nfl vI rMg, rUp, jfq pfq aqy ilMg dy aDfr qy nPrq nhIN krdf qF smJ lE ik Auh isWK Drm anusfr clx dI koisLsL kr irhf hY. jo dUsiraF pRqI nPrq krdf hY aqy gflHF vrgI BfsLf vrqdf hY Auh BfvyN inwq hI aMimRq Ckdf qy CkfAuNdf hovy, ikwzf vI vwzf sMq mhMq ikAuN nf hovy aqy aijhy aisWKI kfry krn vfly nUM gurU vflf nhIN ikhf skdf-sMpfdk)

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(10/04/08)
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(09/04/08)
avqfr isMG imsLnrI aqy sfQI

Bomy ipMz ivKy Èrfb nUM pRÈfd kih ky vrqfAux ivruwD ig[ jgqfr isMG jfck aqy ig[ kyvl isMG vloN ley stYNz dI ivdyÈI imÈnrIaF, ivdvfnF aqy lyKkF vloN pUrn hmfieq

(qrlocn isMG dupflpur/avqfr isMG imÈnrI) nÈf qF koeI vI srIr vfsqy cMgf nhIN BfvyN qMbfkU, crs, qfVI, BuwkI aPIm, suwKf smYk jF Èrfb afid hovy. keI gRMQ vI niÈaF df pRcfr krdy hn ijvyN ik aKOqI dsm gRMQ. gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivKy qF niÈaF nUM miq mfrn vfly ikhf igaf hY-ijiq pIqY miq dUir hoey brl pvY ivic afie] afpxf prfieaf nf pCfxhI KsmoN Dwky Kfie] JUTf mid mUl nf pIceI jy kf pfr vsfey] rihqnfimaF ivKy vI drj hY ik-hukf kuwTf crs qmfkU] gFjf topI qfVI KfkU] …[ ien kI aOr nf kbhUM dyKY] rihqvfn so isMG bÈyKY] pr Esy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy pRkfÈ asQfn qy Èrfb-suwKf afidk nUM pRÈfd kih ky vrqfieaf jfvy qF ies qoN vwzI byadbI hor kI ho skdI hY. kih jFdy smuwcy sMqF sfDF vloN Jtkf mIt dI qF awzIaF AuWcIaF krky aqy sMG pfV ky ivroDqf kIqI jFdI hY jo isMG Bojn hY pr niÈaF vwl koeI iDaFn nhIN idwqf jFdf. sRomxI kmytI, tksflF aqy gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytIaF nUM cwpxI c’ nwk zob lYxf cfhIdf hY ijnHF dy sfhmxy ieh sB kuwJ ho irhf hY jy Dfrimk asQFn hI nÈy vrqfAuxgy qF iPr bfkI asQFnF dI kI hflq hovygI! so kOm nUM niÈaF, PjUl dy krmkFzF, idKfvy ByK aqy JUTIaF ÈohrqF Cwz ky gurU dy dwsy mfrg qy hI cwlxf cfhIdf hY nF ik aKOqI jQydfrF dy jo kOm nUM zyiraF vwl Dkyl rhy hn. dyKo iekwlf sOdf sfD srsy vflf jy grIbF dI mdd krky lwKF nUM afpxy mgr lf skdf hY qF kI ijs pMQ kol ÈRomxI kmytI vrgI sMsQf hovy ijs kol vwzy-vwzy gurduafiraF df pRbMD hovy aqy lwKF kroVF df bjt hovy kI Auh nhIN aYsf kr skdI? qKqF qoN isrP iswK ivdvfnF nUM zrfieaf Dmkfieaf jFdf hY pr pMQ ivroDI pRcfr krn vfly sfDF aqy nÈy vMzx vfly aKOqI lIzrF qoN sropy lY ky AunHF nUM snmfnq kIqf jFdf hY. hux imÈnrIaF aqy spoksmYn dy pRcfr sdkf kOm ivwc jfgRqI af rhI hY ijs sdkf ig[ jgqfr isMG jfck vrgy ivdvfn vI mYdfn ivwc inwqr afey hn. so asIN smuwcy ivdyÈI imÈnrI, isMG sBf dy mYbr aqy pMQ drdI ig[ jfck jI aqy ig[ kyvl isMG jI dy ies stYNz dI hmfieq krdy hF.

gurU pMQ dy syvk

pMQk ivdvfn sR[ iqrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI) dl Éflsf alfieMs dy pRDfn Bf[ prmjIq isMG dfKf, gurU gRMQ pRcfr imsn afP (XU[ aYs[ ey) sMsQf dy BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI-bIbI hrismrq kOr KfÜsf, sR primMdr isMG pRvfnf zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl, zf[ hrmn isMG aqy sfQI (kYlyPornIaF) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (knyzf XUint) dy sR[ gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf aqy sfQI (knyzf) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (amrIkf XUint) dy sR[ hrdyv isMG Èyrigwl aqy sfQI, gurmiq pRsfr sBf sYkrfmYNto dy pRo[ mwKx isMG, sR[ hfkm isMG aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) gurmiq imÈnrI srkl (kYlyPornIaF) dy sR[ igafn isMG, srbjIq isMG sMDU aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) byby nfnkI sBf (sYkrfmYNto) dy sR[ kyhr isMG-bIbI surjIq kOr aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) sihq sBf sYkrfmYNto dy bIbI mnjIq kOr aqy sihXogI (sYkrfmYNto) bfbf nMd isMG aqy mfstr gurbcn isMG (smfj syvk) ig[ bKÈIÈ isMG sfbkf hYWz gRMQI (rIno-nyvfzf) Bf[ aMimRqpfl isMG kQfvfck pRcfrk, aqy sfQI (cldf vhIr dl) sR[ jsbIr isMG sfbkf ipMsIpl sfihbËfdf juJfr isMG gurmiq imÈnrI kflj ropV, vfeIs ipRMsIpl Bf[ hrBjn isMG aqy ig[ amrjIq isMG imÈnrI (amrIkf) bfbf ipafrf isMG sfbkf pRoPYsr iswK imÈnrI kflj bIbIaF (amrIkf) Bf[ blivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blbIr isMG aqy sfQI (Pirjno imÈnrI srkl) Bf[ suKivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blivMdr isMG (bfltImor) sR[ iekbfl isMG imÈnrI, gurmIq isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (aYl[ ey) sR[ blkfr isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (imÈnrI srkl-ibkrsPIlz)

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(08/04/08)
sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

Satkarit Purewal Sahib Ji

Writing this after long time and from Brussel because I left Sydney more than tow month ago; During my stay for one last month? I, by the Kirpa of Satguru Ji managed to publish my two books. They are being released in UK in this month. The SGPC couldn’t change that yet but Sardar Brar Sahib Ji done that.

Here is one article for Sikh Marg.

I read the letter Of S. Gurcharan Singh Ji Brar on this Sikh Marg.

When I saw in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, under the influence of Late Bhai Joginder Singh talwara Ji, SGPC changed the sarup of 'Satnamu'  siqnamu) in to 'Sati Namu', (siq nwmu)  then I thought they may change 'Waheguru' (vwih gurU) into 'Wahe Guru' any time.

If some body thinks it is my Bhull then Khima in advance.

Santokh Singh

Australia

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(05/04/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa  Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Today only I have a chance to read Article: "Shree Guru Granth Sahib Dee Sampaadann - Kalaa Tey Kasvatti" by Giani Jagtar Singh jee Jachak, by clicking www.sikhmarg.com

Similar views have also been expressed by late Dr Sahib Singh and several other Sikh Scholars. But it is not clear why are we prefixing "Shree or Sri ?" Guru Granth Sahib should be OK.

I don't know whether I have missed, there are no comments in respect of "Raag Mala". I reckon that Guru Granth Sahib ends with Mundavani, and that Raag Mala was neither included by Guru Arjan Sahib nor by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib. Moreover, it also cannot be considered Mala of all (31) Raags as Nine Raags do not figure there. Hence, it could have been stated that Raag Mala is not Baani and should not be printed.

{Please note I have nothing to do with akj or any other cult)

Gurmit Singh (Sydney)

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(05/04/08)
spoksmYn ivcoN iek KLbr

hux qÉqF aqy ‘hukmnfimaF’ vfly vI sMg lfh ky roËfnf spoksmYn ÉrId ky pVHdy ny!

cMzIgVH 5 apRYl, 2008 (spoksmYn ibAUro): jlMDr dy ajIq aÉbfr dy brijMdr isMG ny DONs nfl do-ZfeI sfl pihlF ‘roËfnf spoksmYn’ ivruD ijnHF ‘jQydfrF’ koloN ‘hukmnfmy’ jfrI krvfey sn, AunHF nUM vI awj mMnxf pY irhf hY ik AunHF koloN Êlq kMm krvf ilaf igaf sI qy brijMdr isMG ny apxy vpfrk ihqF nUM bcfAux dy afhr ivc, apxI aÉbfr dI DONs dy ky, ÈRomxI kmytI aqy ‘jQydfrF’ nUM apxy mksd leI vrq ilaf sI. iesy leI Auh cMgI soc vfly bMidaF nUM imlx ligaF aksr kihMdy rihMdy hn ik "ijhVI ÊlqI ho geI sI, Aus nUM TIk krn df koeI rfh qusI hI suJfAu ijs nfl sfzI vI hyTI nf hovy qy dUjI iDr nUM vI apxy stYNz nUM Cwzx leI nf kihxf pvy." 1 dsMbr, 2005 nUM ajIq dy brijMdr isMG vloN Dwky nfl krvfeI geI ÊlqI nUM ‘jQydfr’ qy ‘qÉq’ vI ikMnf Êlq smJdy hn, ies df sbUq ieQy qÉq scKMz sRI hËUr sfihb abcl ngr dy pYz `qy roËfnf spoksmYn dy sMpfdk nUM ilKI icwTI aqy aÉbfr lgvfAux leI Byjy 1100 rupey dy cMdy qoN pqf lwg skdf hY. icwTI aqy bYNk zrfÌt, duhF dI Ìoto-kfpI Aupr idqI geI hY. qÉq hËUr sfihb vfly iekwly hI nhIN, sfry qÉqF dy ‘jQydfr’ svyry swB qoN pihlF ‘spoksmYn’ hI pVHdy hn qy Aucycy qOr `qy mMgvfAuNdy hn. sfry hI KulH ky mn cuwky hn ik ‘ajIq’ dy aYzItr ny AunHF nUM vrq ky vwzf pfp AunHF koloN krvfieaf sI. hux pMjF `coN koeI iewk vI ieh kihx nUM iqafr nhIN huMdf ik roËfnf spoksmYn iewk ‘pMQ ivroDI’ aÉbfr hY - isvfey brijMdr isMG dy ‘ajIq’ aÉbfr dy. brijMdr isMG ikAuN swc nUM pRvfn nhIN krdf? ikAuNik Aus ny apxy vpfrk ihqF nUM bcfAux leI hI qF ‘roËfnf spoksmYn’ nfl pfp kmfieaf sI. Aus nUM zr hY ik jy ‘roËfnf spoksmYn’ kl nUM ‘hukmnfmy’ qoN afËfd ho igaf qF Aus df kI bxygf? isafxy lokF df kihxf hY ik ‘spoksmYn’ qF pihlF hI hukmnfimaF dI bMdÈ `coN afËfd ho cuwkf hY qy afm lokF dy nfl nfl hux, ‘hukmnfmy’ jfrI krn vfly jQydfrF ny vI sMg lfh ky ies dI qfrIÌ krnI ÈurU kr idqI hY, BfvyN ik ajy AunHF ivwc eynI ihMmq nhIN af rhI ik apxI ÊlqI nUM KulH ky mMn lYx qy vfps lY lYx. ienHF isafxy lokF df kihxf hY ik brijMdr isMG nUM vI kMD `qy iliKaf pVH lYxf cfhIdf hY qy sfAUaF vflf vqIrf apxf ky, spoksmYn df ivroD bMd kr dyxf cfhIdf hY ikAuNik Auh pihlF hI bfËI hfr cuwkf hY aqy ivroD nUM hor jfrI rwK ky, mUMh ivKfx jogf vI nhIN rih jfeygf. Aus nUM hor kuwJ nhIN qF qÉq scKMz sRI hËUr sfihb dI AupRokq icwTI qoN hI kuwJ isK lYxf cfhIdf hY. 21vIN sdI ivc, iewk aÉbfr dy mflkF vloN dUjI nvIN aÉbfr df rfh rokx dI ieh bVI GtIaf imsfl hY qy Éud ‘hukmnfmy’ jfrI krn vfly vI cfhux lwg pey hn ik ijvyN vI hovy, jQydfrF dI ÊlqI dI hor sËf ‘akfl qÉq’ nUM nf idvfeI jfvy.

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(03/04/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor, Few days back, a press release about the book "Ik Ooo" by Giani Jagtar Singh ji Jachak was published on your website. But there is no information about how and from where that book can be obtained in Canada. If the person who shared this news or any other person can also share the above required information. I will be grateful.

Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sumra Brampton, Canada

(sfzy iKafl muqfbk ijhVy Auhnf dy lyK ‘isWK mfrg’ qy Cp cuwky hn, Auhnf lyKF nUM hI ikqfbI rUp idWqf hY. hor jfxkfrI Auhnf nUM puwC ky ‘isWK mfrg’ qy pf idWqI jfvygI-sMpfdk)

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(02/04/08)
ajIq isMG torFto

pRYs rIport

(2 aprYl 2008, torFto)

BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst tFzf AuVmuV anykF hI aOkVF dy bfvjUd sVk durGtnf dy iÈkfr ivakqIaF vfsqy iewk aihm vrdfn.

ijs smfj ivwc asIN rih rhy hF ivwc mnuwKqf dI BlfeI dy nyk kMmf ivwc Xogdfn pfAux dy Audwm Auprfly krnF swcmuwc hI swc dy mfrg dy pFDIaF dI iewk Kfs inÈfnI huMdI hY. awj bhuqfq ivwc vyKx nUM iml irhf hY ik loVvMdF dI syvf aqy Drm krm dy kMmF dy aDfr qy iekwTf kIqf igaf PMz swc dy mfrg qoN kohF dUr jf ky Krc ho irhf hY aqy iswty vjoN awj dI jvfnI iBafnk niÈaF ivwc glqfn ho ky swcy mfrg qoN Btk rhI hY. kfrn kI hY? pMjfb jF Bfrq aMdr qF ies df kfrn kuwJ ieMJ jfpdf hY ik jo vI ivakqI jF sMsQf afpxI quwC buwDI muqfibk pUrn iemfndfrI aqy ivÈvfÈ dI ksvwtI qy syvf ismrn dy Auprfly krn leI qwqpr huMdI hY nUM iksy nf iksy rUp ivwc srkfrI jF gYrsrkfrI Ëulm jF qÈwdd df sfhmxf krnf pYdf hY. pr DMnqf dy Xog huMdIaF hn aijhIaF sMsQfvF jF ivakqI jo pUrI dlyrI nfl aijhy qÈwdd df zt ky mukfblf krdIaF hn aqy Pqih hfsl krdIaF hn.

aijhf hI iewk ivÈyÈ Auprflf tFzf AuVmuV, iËlHf huiÈafrpur, pMjfb ivKy BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst vloN kIqf jf irhf hY. awj gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy 300 sflF gurgwdI idvs mnfAuNdy hoey asIN ieh zMky dI cot nfl kih skdy hF ik BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst dI tIm awj dI jvfnI nUM iBafnk niÈaF dI mfr qoN bcfAux vfsqy anykF hI sPl Auprfly kr rhI hY. BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst tFzf AuVmuV jo julfeI 1990 ivwc hoNd ivwc afieaf sI awj kOVy swc dy mfrg qy sPl pulfNGf puwtdf hoieaf dunIaF Br dIaF AuhnF mhfn sMsQfvF ivwc Èfml hY jo iksy jfq, pfq, Drm afidk dy Byd Bfv jF ivqkry qoN Aupr AuT ky isrP mnuwKqf dI syvf krdIaF hn. BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst dy cyarmYn srdfr Aujl isMG iewk bhuq hI iemfndfr aqy dlyr iensfn hn. afp jI sfl 1990 ivwc pMjfb srkfr pfsoN bqOr izvIjnl soafiel kMjrvyÈn aPsr irtfier hoey aqy irtfiermYt AuprMq afpxI Drm pqnI aqy ieklOqy pOqry bUtf isMG nfl iml ky swcI suwcI ikrq krn dy nfl nfl syvf ismrn dy kfrjF ivwc jut gey aqy hux qwk anykF hI byshfiraF nUM sMsfrk aqy aiDafqmk cfnx dyx vfsqy sMGrÈ kr rhy hn. tFzy nËdIk jlMDr pTfnkot rfÈtrI mfrg qy agr koeI vI aYksIzYNt ho jFdf hY qF trst dy vlMtIar Pon kfl afAux jF pqf lwgx AuprMq mobfeIl aYNbUlYNs lY ik ibjlI dI qrHF loVvMd mnuwKF dI syvf ivwc jf hfjr huMdy hn. trst dy nOjvfn syvfdrF dy jQydfr srdfr divMdr isMG mUnk klF vfly aqy muwK vlMtIar srdfr amrjIq isMG dfrfpur vfly aMimRqDfrI isMG hn aqy ieh anykF hI nOjvfnF nUM afpxI tIm ivwc Èfml kr ky niÈaF dI mfr qoN sucyq kr rhy hn aqy aijhy progrfm AulIkx dy sPl Auprfly kr rhy hn ijs nfl pMjfb dI jvfnI nUM afpxy axmol iswK ivrsy qoN jfxU krvfieaf jf sky. BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst bfry vDyry jfxkfrI lYx vfsqy kYnyzf ivwc Pon nMbr 416-301-8114 qy sMprk kIqf jf skdf hY jF trst dI vYbsfeIt www.charityghanaiya.com vyKI jf skdI hY.

awj sfrI dunIaF awgy iewk aihm svfl hY ik sMsfr aMdr ÈfqI df vfqfvrx ikvyN pYdf hovy? agr gurU kf iswK hMBlf mfry qF Auh sMsfr aMdr ÈFqI Biraf vfqfvrx kfiem krn ivwc ivÈyÈ Xogdfn pf skdf hY. ikAuNik gurU gRMQ sfihb jI pfsoN idÈf pRfpq krn vflf mnuwK hmyÈF swc dy mfrg qy cldf hY. ijwQy swc hovygf AuWQy ÈFqI df vfqfvrx kfiem hoxf suBfivk hI hY. Auprokq gurU ky iswKF vloN kIqy gey Auprfly swcmuwc hI bhuq hI ÈlfGfXog AuWdm hn. afAu awj asIN sfry ies sMsfirk ÈFqI ivwc pIzI sFJ pfAux vfsqy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df 300 sflF gurgwdI idvs mnfAuNdy hoey aijhy anykF hI hor syvf aqy ismrn dy kfrjF ivwc Xogdfn pfeIey. AumId hY ik BivwK ivwc sfzIaF smfijk aqy Dfrimk sMsQfvF ies ivÈy qy jrUr ivcfr krngIaF.

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(01/04/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Dr. Hakam Singh Jee (USA),

 Waheguru jee ka Khalsa  Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I am truly grateful to you for your Article: Dasam Granth Dee Vashatviktaa as shared through: www.sikhmarg.com

Earlier, Dr. Jasbir Singh Mann (USA) has also explained the background of this controversial mythical literature.

Several persons in Punjab and India have also been raising their voice about the authenticity of BN/DG but SGPC and its goluck paid servants have not been listening under the influence of akj /damdami taksaalis / deravaad /RSS/BJP.

But I don't know why Institute of Sikh Studies (IOSS) is silent as if they have nothing to do ?

Although, you have already explained all the aspects, please advise me if draft attachment could be shared with other well-wishers of the Guru Panth here locally.

Thanks for your guidance,

Gurmit Singh (Sydney, Australia)  

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(31/03/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

jsbIr isMG astrylIaf jI! vfih gurU jI kf kflsf, vfih gurU jI Pqih.

qusIN afpxI icwTI ivwc imÈnrIaF dy qrkÈIlF nfl sMbMDF bfry iglf Ëfhr kIqf hY ho skdf hY qusIN TIk hovo. qusIN vDIaf imÈnrI bxfAux dI gwl kIqI hY. kI qusIN awj qk vDIaf imsLnrI bxfAux ivwc koeI shfieqf kIqI hY? srIrk qOr qy jf mfiek qOr qy iksy imÈnrI kflj dI mwdd kIqI hY? jy nhI qF isrP icwTIaF ilKx nfl ieh mslf hwl hox vflf nhI.

qrkÈIÜF nUM, ‘Drm iewk aPIm hY’ kih ky gurbfxI qoN dUr kr idwqf igaf. Auh gurU isDFq qoN iblkul dUr ho gey. afpxy afp nUM DrmI aKvfAux vfly lok lMmy Jwgy pf ky, nMgIaF lwqF rwK ky, zyZ ku jf do ieMc df cOVf gfqrf pf ky aqy gol pwg bMn ky iswK Drm dy lMmy cOVy Tykydfr bx gey. pVHy ilKy qy smJdfr lokF nUM nfsqk kih kih ky ieh lok durkfrn lwg pey jo ieh srfsr glq hoieaf.

qkÈIl, lokF nUM vihmF BrmF ivcoN bfhr kwZdy hn, qy gurUbfxI vI. aKOqI DrmI, sMq-sfD vr-srfp nUM iswK Drm ivwc vfVdy hn jdoN ik qrkÈIl qy gurUbfxI vr-srfp nUM jVoN rwd krdI hY. dmdmI tksfl gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM Bog lvfAuNdI hY jdoN ik gurUbfxI df Purmfx hY:

Bfqu pihiq aru lfpsI, krkrf kfsfru] Bognhfry Boigaf, iesu mUriq ky muK Cfru] 4] mfilin BUlI jgu Bulfnf, hm Bulfny nfih] khu kbIr hm rfm rfKy, ik®pf kir hir rfie] 5] 1] 14] {pMnf 479}

jy kr iswK Drm ivcoN vr-srfp nUM kwZ idwqf jfvy qF iksy sfD-sMq dI loV hI nhI rih jFdI, jo ik iswK isDFq muqfbk iblkul TIk hY. iPr luwt-Ksuwt df mfmlf Kqm ho skdf hY. pr nhI, ies qoN bgYr iswKI dI dukfndfrI nhI cldI qy afm lok luwty hI sUq afAuNdy hn ieh iewk khfvwq hY. ho irhf hY.

mYN huxy huxy pMjfb jf ky afieaf hF qy ijhVy ijhVy qrkÈIlF nfl myl imlfp hoieaf hY AunHF qoN iehI pqf lwigaf ik Auh lok gurUbfxI qoN iblkul kory hn pr mYN iPr vI dfhvy nfl ieh kih skdf hF ik Auh lok iewkf duwkf glqIaF nUM Cwz ky iswK Drm dy aKOqI jQydfrF nfloN vI vDIaf hn qy iswKI asUlF qy pihrf idMdy hn. Auh hwk swc qy mrn qk pihrf idMdy hn. biTMzf iËlf, mihl klF ivwc mfrI geI nOjvfn lVkI df kql kys jwg jfhr hY qy ies ivwc agFh vDU jwQybMdIaF ny mUhry lwg ky hI ipMz dy lMbrdfrF nUM sjf dvfeI sI qy ZINZsy horIN lMbrdfrF vfly pfsy KVy sn. iehI kfrn hY ik pRo[ Gwgf ny qrkÈIlF dy hwk ivwc ibafn dfg idwqf. ijhVIaF ikqfbF dy hwk ivwc ibafn dfigaf igaf hY Auh ikqfbF mnuwKqf nUM kurfhy qoN rfhy pfAuNdIaF hn qy ÈfeId qusIN pVHIaF hI nf hox.

sfry gurU sfihbfn sfkqF kol gey, corF zfkUaf qy DfVveIaf kol gey qy AunHF ny AunHF nUM suDfiraf. suDry hoey lokF kol jfx df kI Pfiedf. iswK Drm df muK mMqv hI lok BlfeI hY. kbIr sfkq sMgu n kIjIaY, dUrih jfeIaY Bfig] bfsnu kfro prsIaY, qAu kCu lfgY dfgu] 131] {pMnf 1371} pr ies pMgqI ivwc afey ‘sfkq’ df mqlb iksy mnuwKI jIv qoN nhI. ies krky qusIN iesdI hor ivcfr krnI qy afpF afpxI crcf awgy jfrI rwKFgy.

guru pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

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zf[ gurdyv isMG iswDU jI! vfih guru jI kf Kflsf, vfih guru jI kI Pqih.

isMG sBf kYnyzf, kYnyzf ivwc hI hY. qusIN sfrI iswK jnqf nUM bVf vwzf hnorf mfiraf hY aqy ieh vI puiCaf hY ik isMG sBf kYnyzf ikwQy hY. hr sMsQf df afpxf afpxf pRogrfm AulIikaf huMdf hY qy Auh ssMQf Aus anusfr kMm krdI hY. sfzy kol koeI gurduafry dI golk nhI ijs ivcoN asIN afpxI mrjI nfl DMn kwZ ky afpxI qy iksy dI injI jyb ivwc pf dyeIey. iews dy bfvjUd vI ipCly sfl iswK Drm dy pRcfr leI pMjfb dy 40 ipMzF ivwc pRcfrk Byjy gey qy ieh imsnrI awj pMjfb dy 300 ipMzF ivwc pRcfr kr rhy hn. Krcf keI lwKF rupY hY ijhVf ies ssMQf dy mYNbrF ny afpxI afpxI injI jyb ivcoN idwqf hY. hornF nUM hnorf nf mfiraf huMdf qF mYnUM vI koeI hwk nhI sI bxdf quhfnUM puCx df ik iswK Drm dy pRcfr vfsqy qusIN kI kIqf hY. jdoN qusIN hux ieh kMm ÈurU kr hI ilaf hY qF ieh dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI ik qusIN kdI lwK do lwK rupY iswK Drm dy pRcfr leI afpxI injI jyb ivcoN Krcy hn jF aYvYN zIgF hI mfrdy ho?

quhfzf vIr,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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(28/03/08)
zf: gurdyv isMG iswDU

Dear Editor Sahib Ji,

Sat Sri Akal.

I was shocked to note that Dr Dilgeer Ji's book wont be published because he has no money and those who promised are not keeping their word. It is shameful. I have seen Dal Khlsa Alliance website. They offer money to publish books on Sikhism. Where are they? Where is Singh Sabha Canada? Where is World Sikh Organization? What is being done by International Sikh Youth Federation? What is then the role of Gurdwaras.

Are there no genuine Sikh businessmen or professionals?

It is shame for the Sikh leaders and organisations.

Sorry for Panth.

Sorry if I have said any harsh word while TELLING THE TRUTH.

(If there is any genuine Sikh donor, please contact Dr Dilgeer at:

Tel 00 91 94171 83277

With no malice, a Panthik Dardi

Dr Gurdev Singh Sidhu

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(26/03/08)
jsbIr isMG afstRylIaf

Dear editor,
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh||

Sikhi is a unique religion and it got a unique philosphy which is answer of most of world problems. But if we look at sikh diaspora, they are influenced by other philosphies in masses. Part of this is human nature but the main reason is non propagation of Sikh thought.
If we look at our past, thousands sikhs joined Arya Samaj which was though little bit rationalist but certainly favouring Vedas over Satguru Granth Sahib. Many Sikhs were influenced by Swami Ram Tirth and his mission which include our beloved one Pro Puran Singh.
Then appeared Nirankari mission(Fake one) and hundreds of thousands joined this mission. They were saying that they are not a religion, but their so called Gurus and religious books were treated more pious than sikhs.
Similar case is Radha Swamis (Sacha Sauda is a part of this) which is joined by millions of Guru Nanak followers. One of my close relative is a follower of them. On one of my visits they asked to listen a lecture of Charan Singh. His lecture was fully based on Gurbani and foolish sikhs were treating a postman a Guru. Why our people do not listen to our missionaries instead go on supporting dummies.Reasons might be many but one which is hard to ignore is failure from our side to produce quality dedicated missionaries and failure to read psyche of listeners. Our missionaries are same for toddlers, youth and elders. They are same for illiterate and highly educated people. They are same for insane or sane. Our organisations should discuss this issue from heart and try to find answers with scientific knowledge and Gurbani teachings.
Another form of influence which made a bigger loss from above was from Communists or so called Tarksheels. Unfortunately I spents years of my precious life with members of Tarksheel society and nearly came under their influence. God bestowed His mercy and got me out of their influence. Our missionaries are influenced by their thoughts. Last year on behalf of Sikh Khalsa Mission, we distributed a CD of International Sikh Missionary Pro Inder Singh Ghagga in which he mentioned about Bhagat Prahlad. It is a general consent that Bhagat Prahlad is mythical hero whose example Guru Sahib mentioned in Gurbani to preach sikhs a full faith in God who is protector of us. Pro.Inder Singh in his CD mentioned Prahlad as real but not as hero instead a villain. After spending years with the members of so called Tarksheel Society I immediately recognised his thought. I did not say anything other than good wishes for him. Now when Punjab assembly banned a few of books of Tarksheel Society, Pro Ghagga was very eager to issue a statement. The cat is out of bag. Why Pro Sahib has so much love this atheist organisation. Tarksheel society belongs to faithless people. For them all religious people are robbers or exploiters. In other word they treat Guru Nanak Sahib and Sajjan Thug equal. For Tarksheel society donating parts of body by a cancer ridden person (Kishan Bargadi) is more important than family sacrifices of Guru Gobind Singh jee. Years back they write a sarcastic poem in their magazine Tarksheel , titled Naam Dukhan da darroo' clealy quoting Dukh Bhanjan Tera Naam. Guru's order for us is Sakat Sang Naa Keejeyey Dooroh Jaiey Bhag. Saakat is worse than mughad. It is time for us to awake. We should also stop titling our selves like International Sikh missionary or pro unless there is such qualification and we possess it. I would like to mention here about the editor spokesman Sardar Joginder singh who is also giving importance to this society but he can be spared being an editor and victim of so called panthic goveronment.Thanks.

regards,
Jasbir Singh Australia

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(25/03/08)
pRYWs irlIjL

igafnI jfck jI dI ‘ÃÄ drpx’ nfmI nvIN pusqk rlIË ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG mYmorIal tRst vloN õñúúú rupY ienfm

awj cMzIgV sYktr óô dy gurduafrf sfihb ivKy pMQ dy pRiswD qy pRmfxIk ivdvfn BfeI sfihb ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG cMzIgV vfilaF dy XfdgrI smfgm smyN iewk ivcfr goÈtI ajoXiq kIqI geI, ijs ivwc BfeI gurbKÈ isMG ÈFq dy gurbfxI kIrqn AuprMq ivÈv pRiswD ivdvfn zf: hrnfm isMG Èfn aqy zf: hrijMdr isMG idlgIr ny ipRMsIpl sfihb jI dI gurmqI sfihqk dyx aqy nËrIey qy pypr pVHy. AunHF disaf ik ipRMsIpl sfihb gurU pMQ nUM smrpq iewk aijhI bhupwKI ÈKsIaq sn, ijhVI ividafrQIaF leI rol mfzl bxI. zf: blkfr isMG, zf: kyhr isMG aqy isMG sfihb pRo: mnjIq isG hurF ivcfr crcf ivwc Bfg lYNidaF ipRMsIpl sfihb nfl sbMDq XfdF qfËf kIqIaF. ivdvfnF, imÈnrI ividafrQIaF aqy gurmiq sfihq dIaF pRymI iswK sMgqF dy BrvyN iekwT ivwc sfihbËfdmjfbf juJfr isMG imÈnrI kflj ropV dy ipRsIpl bljIq isMG jI nUM ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG aYvfrz nfl snmfnq kIqf igaf. pMjfbI XUnIvristI pitaflf dy vfeIs cFslr zf: jspfl isMG jI duafrf iswK sMgqF dy KuÈI Bry jYkfiraF dI gUMj ivwc igafnI jgqfr isMG jfck jI dI ‘ÃÄ drpx’ nfmI pusqk rlIË kIqI. AunHF afiKaf ik jfck jI dI ieh pusqk gurbfxI df mUl-qwq hY, ijhVI gurmiq dI isDFqk ivafiKaf ivwc iewk mIl-pwQr sfibq hoeygI. pRcfrk sjxF leI vI ieh iewk anUTI sugfq hY. ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG mYmorIrl tRst vloN ipRMsIpl siqnfm isMG hmrfË ny ies pusqk leI õñúúú rupY df ienfm aYlfn kIqf. pr, jfck jI ny ienfm df aÈIrvfd vjoN iewk ruipaf rKidaF bfkI mfieaf tRst rfhIN ipRMsIpl sfihb dIaF pusqkF Cfpx leI vrqx dI bynqI kr idwqI. iswK Porm ieMk inAUXfrk dy sfbkf pRDfn sR: siqnfm isMG nrUlf ny pusqk leI vDfeI idMidaF òñúú rupY ienfm vjoN idwqy. isMG sfihb igafnI kyvl isMG hurF styj dI syvf inBfeI. igafnI gurbcn isMG QfeIlYNz vfilaF smUh ivdvfnF qy iswK sMgqF nUM jI afieaF afiKaf qy jfck jI ny sfry ivdvfn bulfiraF qy sMgqF df DMnvfd kIqf.

rIpotr: sMdIp isMG, ividafrQI gurmiq igafn imsnrI kflj, jvwdI, luiDafxf.

imqI òõ mfrc òúúø

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(24/03/08)
dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl

holy mhwly qy sMgqF nUM gurU gRMQ sfihb dI srvAuWcqf leI cYlMj bx cuwky dsm gRMQ bfry svyr qy Èfm dy ÈYÈn ivwc jfxU krvfieaf igaf.

PrIdfbfd ivwc holy mhwly dy avsr `qy hox vfly smfgm ivwc dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYsnl vwloN vI sYmInfr df afXojn kIqf igaf sI ijs df smF Èfm df sI. ies smfgm ivwc keI ivdvfn swjx ÈmUlIaq krx leI puwjy sn. sYmInfr df smF Èfm df hox kfrx kuwJ ivdvfnF vwloN svyry dy ÈYÈn ivwc vI ÈmUlIaq kIqI geI aqy ivdvfnF vwloN guru gRMQ sfihb dI srvAuNcqf dI gwl kIqI geI aqy srvAuNwcqf leI bxy sB qoN vwzf Kqrf aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry sMgqF nUM jfxU krfieaf igaf styj skwqr dI BUimkf inBfAuNdy hoey mMc dy knvInr s[ Aupkfr isMG ny sMgqF nUM jfxkfrI idwqI ik iks qrHF dsm ipqf dy nF dy nfl aÈlIlqf BrI pusqk nUM joV ky guru gRMQ sfihb jI df ÈrIk pYdf krx dIaF koJIaF cflF clIaF jf rhIaF hn. s[ joigMdr isMG muwK sMpfdk rojfnf spoksmYn ny sMgqF nfl ivcfr sFJy krdy hoey ikhf ik iks qrHF nfl aKOqI dsm gRMQ dy pRcfr leI aKOqI sMqf vwloN mnsUby GV ky guru gRMQ sfihb jI df siqkfrq drËf aKOqI aÈlIl dsm gRMQ nUM idvfAux dIaF cflF clIaF jf rhIaF hn. AunHF ikhf ik drbfr sfihb dy cfr drvfjy hn ijs nfl koeI vI iswKI dy vyVy ivwc af skdf hY pr hux iewk pMjvF drvfjf jo dsm gRMQ df bxf idwqf igaf hY jo ik cfroN rfh bMd krky iswK nUM iPr qoN ibpr rIqF vwl lY jfx df rfh hY. s[ rijMdr isMG ny guru gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuNcqf leI cYÜMj bx cuwky aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry Aus dI sbdfvlI bfry sMKyp ivwc jfxkfrI idwqI. AunHF ikhf ik nMdyV qoN kwZy gey jfigRqI Xfqrf dy mksd óúú sfl guru dy nfl nUM bVy duK Bry aMdfj ivwc disaf ik ieh lok qF óúú sYNkz vI guru dy nfl nhIN jo guru dI byadbI krx dy ijMmyvfr hn. ipRMsIpl nirMdr isMG jMmU ny vI sfihb guru gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuNcqf qy afAux vfly cYlMËF bfry disaf. svyr qoN lY ky Èfm qk clx vfly ies smfgm ivwc Èfm dy ÈYÈn ivwc ivdvfnf dy dUroN dUroN afey hox krky sYmInfr nUM ivdvfnF dI slfh nfl pRbMDkF vwloN iewk Cotf rUp dy idwqf igaf. ies ÈYÈn ivwc zf[ gurmuK isMG, lyKk hrI rqn Xukqf, pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf, jsivMdr isMG dubeI aqy mMc dy koafrzInytr s[ suirMdr isMG ny ÈmUlIaq kIqI. sYmInfr dy aMq ivwc sfry bulfiraF vwloN iewk sur ho ky ieh gwl khI geI ik iswKF df ieko iewk guru guru gRMQ sfihb jI hn. guru gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuWcqf dy hfmI dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc AudoN qk ies jMg nUM lVdf rhygf jd qk iswKI dy vyVy ivwc bicqr nftk aKOqI dsm gRMQ dIaF aÈlIÜqf nUM iswKI dy vyVy ivcoN bfhr nhI kwZ idwqf jFdf. svyr dy smfgm ivwc s[ qrsym isMG Drm pRcfr kmytI, ÈRmxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI vwloN vI ÈmUlIaq kIqI geI. zf[ gurmuK isMG vwloN aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry ilKI pusqk gurbfxI dI ksvwtI qy dsm gRMQ dI prK pRkfÈk dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc, vI irlIË kIqI geI.

s[ ikRpfl isMG cyarmYn mfqf sfihb kOr gurmiq kflj PrIdfbfd, gurmiq pRcfr jwQf idwlI dy pRDfn s[ bldyv isMG, gurmiq aYjUkyÈn sYNtr, idwlI dy ipRMsIpl s[ surjIq isMG, guriswK PYimlI kwlb luiDafxf dy pRojYkt ieMjfrË s[ pRBjoq isMG, sRomxI iswK smfj mohflI dy pRDfn krnl gurdIp isMG, BfeI lflo PfAuNzyÈn dy pRDfn s[ jsivMdr isMG dubeI, Kflsf pMcfieq dy knvInr s[ rijMdr isMG, s[ rivMdr isMG cMzIgVH, gurmiq pRcfr jwQf biTMzf qoN s[ ikRpfl isMG, gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI kpUrQlf, iswK imÈnrI kflj kpUrQlf dy srkl ieMjfrË, lyKk hrI rqn Xukqf PrIdkot, s[ jsvMq isMG PrIdkot, bhfdrpur pMjfb qoN s[ hrlfj isMG, ipRMsIpl nirMdr isMG jMmU, s[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf, PrIdfbfd gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf nM-ñ, qoN s[ suMdr isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf nM-õ dy pRDfn s[ amrjIq isMG, gurduafrf isMG sBf sYktr -òò dy pRDfn s[ jsbIr isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf sYktr-õõ dy Aup pRDfn s[ srbjIq isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf sYink kflOnI dy s[ srdfr isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf pMjfbI kflOnI dy jnrl skwqr s[ suKdyv isMG aqy pRDfn bldyv isMG gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf sYktr ñõ qoN kmytI mYNbr s[ gurnfm isMG, kyNdrI isMG sBf dy knvInr s[ KËfn isMG, guriswK PYimlI klwb dy koafrzInytr s[ rxjIq isMG, s[ iÈMgfrf isMG, dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl qoN knvInr s[ Aupkfr isMG, koafrzInytr s[ suirMdr isMG, Kflsf nfrI mMc dy knvInr hrbMs kOr, bIbI mohn kOr, bIbI mihMdr kOr, bIbI bldyv kOr, XMg iswK aYsoiseyÈn qoN s[ BuipMdr isMG, s[ guirMdr isMG afid jwQybMdIaF Èfml hoeIaF

vwloN

s[ Aupkfr isMG PrIdfbfd

knvInr dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl

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(24/03/08)
guriswK PYimÜI klwb PrIdfbfd

afDuinkqf dI aMnHI dOV `c'Èfml ho ky, Gon mon pfqrF nUM apxf afdrÈ bxf ky, afpxy iswKI srUp aqy isDFqF nUM iqlFjlI dy rhI iswK nOjvfn pIVHI nUM ieh ivÈvfs idvfAux leI ik Auh sfbq sUrq rih ky vI, mIzIey dy Kyqr `c'afpxy iewk ivÈyÈ mukfm hfisl kr skdy hn, iesy hI lVI qihq holy mhwly dy mOky guriswK PYmlI klwb PrIdfbfd vloN ipRMsË Kflsf aqy ipRMs Kflsf mukfblf krvfieaf igaf. ijs `c' òú dy krIb kuVIaF aqy muMizaF ny ihwsf lYNidaF ijQy rYNp qy qur ky afpxI ÈrIrk suMdrqf df lohf mnvfieaf, AuQy gurmiq sbMDI jwjF vloN puwCy gey suaflF df juafb dy ky sroiqaF nUM mMqr mugD kridaF ieh drÈfieaf ik Auh smyq mIzIaf dy hr Kyqr'c'afpxI iewk ivlwKx QF bxf skdy hn. ies pRogrfm nUM vyKx leI hËfrF dI igxqI ivwc nOjvfn bicaF dI BIV AumVI sI afzItoirafm dy grfAuNz Plor aqy Prst Plor pUrI qrHF nfl KcfKc Biraf ipaf sI. lokF ny Qwly bih ky vI pRogrfm df luqP AuTfieaf

ies Èo `c' ihwsf lYx vfly muMzy-kuVIaF ny sroiqaF nfl afpxy ivcfr sFJy kridaF iewk sur ho ky ieh gwl khI ik asIN dunIaF dy lokF nUM ieh ds dyxf cfuhMdy hF ik sfbq sUrq iswK nOjvfn kuVIaF-muMzy sMsfr dy iksy vI Kyqr `c' apxf lohf mMnvf skdy hn, ijs `c' iswKI srUp qy isDFq koeI rukfvt nhIN bxdy.

pMdrF idnF dy bhuq Gwt smyN ivwc hI ivigafpn, coxF, tryinMg klfsF qy hor keI kMm kIqy gey. ies pRogrfm dI Kfs gwl ieh sI ik ies ivwc tryinMg ÈYÈn dy dOrfn nOjvfn bwicaF ny gurmiq dy jfxkfrF vwloN roËfnf gurmiq bfry BrpUr jfxkfrI vI hfsl kIqI sI. ies pRqIXoigqf ivwc idwlI, PrIdfbfd, blwBgV qoN pRqIXogIaF ny ihwsf ilaf sI. ies pRogrfm dy koafrzInytr s[ kmljIq isMG, cyarmYn guru nfnk sInIar sYkMzrI skUl, s[ jsivMdr isMG, s[ mnpRIq isMG, s[ suKpRIq isMG rYpIar ievMt kMpnI vwloN BrpUr sihXog pRfpq hoieaf.

ies pRogrfm dI aYNkirMg bIbI Èvyqf kOr aqy bIbI hrbMs kOr vwloN bfKUbI inBfeI geI. ies pRogrfm dy afrMB ivwc sMgqF nUM pihlF bIbI hrbMs kOr vwloN disaf igaf ik iks qrHF asI "gurbfxI bxIaY" anusfr afpxf jIvn ibqfAuxf hY aqy aMdroN qy bfhrhu inrml ho ky sicafr bxnf hY. iËMdgI ivwc hr kMm leI sfnUM Èbd guru qoN agvfeI lYxI cfhIdI hY.

ies pRogrfm ivwc Aucycy qOr’ qy muwK mihmfn vwjoN bRYNz abyNszr bIbI avnIq kOr "kOr afP df iear, òúúö, bRYNz abYNszr ipRMs Kflsf s[ mnpRIq isMG bYst PotojYnIk Pys imstr isMG ieMtrnYÈnl òúú÷, s[ jspRIq isMG imstr isMG aMbflf koiraO gRfPr, imstr isMG òúúö, s[ jgjIq isMG bRYNz abYNszr ieMzIaf tuwzy mYgËIn aqy imstr isMG ieMzIaf dy Pfienilst afid nUM AunHF dI AuplbDIaF leI iewk sfbq sUrq iswK vwjoN siqkfiraf igaf.

ies pRogrfm ivwc jwjF dI BUimkf s[ rijMdr isMG knvInr Kflsf pMcfieq, s[ pRBjoq isMG guriswK PYimÜI klwb luiDafxf, s[ suKdyv isMG jnrl skwqr gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf pMjfbI kflOnI, s[ gurnfm isMG XMg ieMzstr arilst aqy spFsr mYnyËr ipRMs Kflsf/ipRMsj Kflsf, s[ jsivMdr isMG zfierYktr rYpIar ievMt aYNz aYNtrtynmYNt afid sn. sfry pRqIXogIaF ny vwK vwK qrHF nfl vwK vwK ilbfËF ivwc aÈlIlqf qoN kohF dUr pRdrÈn krky iqMn rfAuNz pUry kIqy.

ipRMsË Kflsf df iKqfb bIbI rmIq kOr vwloN ijwiqaf igaf. sYNkz rnar ap bIbI gurmIq kOr, Prst rnar ap bIbI gurdIp kOr sn. gurmiq avyarnYs leI bIbI virMdr kOr, bYst duptf stfiel suKmIq kOr aqy bYst kositXUm leI bIbI qrndIp kOry ny iKqfb ijwqy.

ipRMs Kflsf df iKqfb s[ AuNkfr isMG nUM pRfpq hoieaf. Prst rnar ap amndIp isMG aqy sYNkz rnar ap ivwc pRIqpfl isMG jyqU rhy. sohxI dsqfr leI s[ mndIp isMG, sohxI poÈfk leI s[ ieMdrpfl isMG, Potojyink Pys leI arÈdIp isMG, aqy s[ pwivqr isMG nUM gurmiq avyarnYs df iKqfb idwqf igaf.

jyqUaF nUM dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnyÈnl dy koafrzInytr s[ suirMdr isMG, guriswK PyimlI klwb dy pRbMDk s[ rxjIq isMG, s[ BuipMdr isMG, s[ isMgfrf isMG, s[ suKdyv isMG, s[ kmljIq isMG pOgrfm koafrzInytr aqy s[ gurnfm isMG, bIbI ruibMdr kOr aqy ipRMsIpl nirMdr isMG jMmU vwloN snmfn icnH dy ky siqkfiraf igaf.

vwloN

guriswK PYimÜI klwb PrIdfbfd.

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(23/03/08)
gurÈrn isMG ksyl

zf[ hrijMdr isMG idlgIr jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

afp jI ny “iswK ihstrI” dI ijhVI 1800 pMny dI ikqfb iqafr kIqI hY pihlF qF afp jI ƒ AusdI bhuq-bhuq vDfeI hovy. afs hY ik Auh ikqfb iswK kOm dI jfxkfrI vfsqy vwzmulI hovygI.

kI afp ieh jfxkfrI dyvogy ik ies ikqfb dI ikMnI kImq hovygI aqy asIN knyzf ivwc bYTy ikvyN pRfpq kr skFgy? ies bfry jfxkfrI dyx leI bhuq-bhuq DMnvfd.

afp df ÈuBicMqk,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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(23/03/08)
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI

roËfnf spoksmYn dI Kbr

20 pMQk jQybMdIaF ny spoksmYn df sFJf snmfn kIqf: ÌrIdfbfd, 23 mfrc (jgqfr isMG): ÌrIdfbfd dIaF sMgqF vloN hr sfl mnfieaf jFdf Dfrmk smfgm ies vfr ieiqhfsk ho inbiVaf jdoN sfry pMjfb `coN afeIaF hoeIaF 20 dy krIb pMQk sMsQfvF ny smfgm dOrfn, styj `qy af ky s[ joigMdr isMG aqy bIbI jgjIq kOr df sFJy qOr `qy snmfn krn df ÌYslf mOky `qy hI kr ilaf. styj Auqy sfrIaF jQybMdIaF qy sMsQfvF dy afgU iekwqr ho gey. pRogrfm dy muwK afXojk s[ Aupkfr isMG dy kQnF qy Puwl cVHfAuNidaF, sfrIaF jQybMdIaF vloN s[ joigMdr isMG aqy bIbI jgjIq kOr nUM XfdgfrI icMnH ByNt krn leI s[ rfijMdr isMG Éflsf pMcfieq dI syvf lgfeI jo AunHF ny jYkfiraF dI gUMj ivwc inBfeI. ies mOky styj qoN Éfs qOr `qy apIl kIqI geI ik roËfnf spoksmYn ivruD kIqIaF jf rhIaF kfrvfeIaF df jvfb iehI hY ik spoksmYn dy tIicaF nfl sihmqI rwKx vflf hr nr nfrI, ies dI mdd leI zwt jfey. KcfKc Bry hfl ivwc do mMËlF Auqy bYTy hoey hËfrF nr-nfrI ny ‘boly so inhfl’ dy jYkfry Cwz ky spoksmYn nfl KVy hox df aYlfn kIqf. ies mOky Bfvuk hoeI bIbI jgjIq kOr ny sMKyp ivwc sMgqF nfl ivcfr sFJy kridaF disaf ik ikvyN s[ joigMdr isMG 18-18 GMty dI sÉq imhnq kr ky aÉbfr dy pRfjYkt nUM clf rhy hn pr gurU nfnk dI ivcfrDfrf nUM PYlfAux ivwc AunHF nUM AunHF lokF vloN vI vloN loVINdf mflI sihXog nhIN iml irhf jo gwlIN bfqIN spoksmYn nfl KVy hox dI gwl krdy hn.

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ÈRomxI Éflsf pMcfieq cMzIgVH dy knvInr BfeI rfijMdr isMG Éflsf ny joÈIly aqy jËbfqI ZMg nfl apxf viKafn pyÈ kridaF ikhf ik iswK smfj ivwc gurU gRMQ sfihb dI srb-AuWcqf nUM sfibq krn dI loV pYxf hI iewk aiq duKdfeI siQqI vl ieÈfrf hY. AunHF ikhf ik gurU gRMQ sfihb dI srb-AuWcqf sony dIaF pflkIaF, mihMgy rumfilaF jF sMgmrmr dIaF iblizMgF nfl kfiem nhIN huMdI blik bfxI ivcly igafn nUM apxf ky apxy jIvn nUM suDfrn nfl huMdI hY. gurbfxI dy AupdyÈF nUM apxf ky hI BfeI lihxf jI vI gurU aMgd bx sky sn. BfeI rfijMdr isMG ny ikhf ik gurbfxI ivwc smfj dy AunHF aiq dby-kucly vrg dy BgqF nUM vI brfbrI df drjf idqf, ijnHF nUM BfrqI smfj vloN ÈUdr afK ky durkfiraf jFdf sI. AunHF ikhf ik ivigafn vI gurU gRMQ sfihb qoN agvfeI lYNdf hY aqy gurbfxI df koeI vI isDFq, ivigafn ny Êlq sfbq nhIN kIqf. AunHF apxy injI anuBv bfry jfxkfrI idMidaF disaf ik ikvyN sfD-bfby lokF nUM gurbfxI dy pivwqr AupdyÈF nfloN qoVn leI ‘nyqR-pfT’ krn ijhy pKMzF ivwc Psf rhy hn. ies mOky jMmU dy AuGy ivdvfn ipRMsIpl nirMdr isMG ny ikhf ik iswKF df gurU ‘Èbd’ jF gurmiq ivcfrDfrf hY, koeI ivakqI jF gurbfxI df koeI sQUl rUp nhIN. AunHF disaf ik ies Coty ijhy nukqy nUM nf smJ pfAux kfrn hI iswK hux qsvIrF qoN bfad gurU nfnk sfihb dIaF mUrqIaF qk pUjx lwg pey hn. AunHF ikhf ik gurU gRMQ sfihb dI srb-AuWcqf bfry ÈMkf pYdf krn leI kdy akfl qÉq, kdy rihq mirafdf qy kdy ÈRomxI kmytI dy srb-AuWc hox df pRcfr kIqf jFdf hY. AunHF ikhf ik akfl qÉq dI iblizMg nhIN blik AuQoN gurU gRMQ sfihb dy isDFqF dI rOÈnI nUM hor PYlfAux vflf igafn hI srb-AuWc hY. AunHF ikhf ik Éflsf sfjnf dy 300 sflf idvs mOky ‘smuwcI kOm aMimRqDfrI’ df nfarf idqf igaf sI qF ies df nqIjf smuwcI kOm dy piqqpuxy ivwc inkilaf sI. hux gurU gRMQ sfihb dy 300 sflf gurqf gwdI idvs mOky ‘300 sfl, gurU dy nfl’ df nfarf idqf jf irhf hY pr iswKF nUM gurU gRMQ sfihb nfloN qoV ky dsm gRMQ ijhy aÈlIl aqy ihMdU imiQhfs nfl BrpUr pusqk nfl joiVaf jf irhf hY. AunHF ikhf ik inrI Dfrmkqf df muKOtf pihnI bYTIaF sMsQfvF nUM hux apxI cuwp qoVnI cfhIdI hY. AunHF roËfnf spoksmYn dy inkfs nUM kOm dI ÉuÈiksmqI dsidaF ikhf ik ies nfl juV ky, gurU nfnk dy shI sMdyÈ nUM dunIaF dy hr mnuwK qk phuMcfAux leI Xqn ÈurU kr dyxy cfhIdy hn.

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Shameful ‘Dharam Parchar’ in Gurdwara Rakab Ganj

DSGMC organised a Kirtan Darbar at historical Gurdwara Rakab Ganj Sahib, New Delhi on 15th March 2008, claiming it to be dedicated to Basant Raag in Guru Granth Sahib. However, the committee invited several Brahmin musicians as ‘Raag-experts’ and paid them hefty amounts. This was a clear violation of Sikh Rehat Maryada which states that a non-Sikh cannot perform Kirtan in Sangat. But it didn’t deter DSGMC or its so-called Dharam Parchar Committee to promote non-Sikh musicians, who were brought inside the hall through ‘VIP entry’ and not from front (perhaps the brahmin musicians had put the condition of not bowing before Guru Granth Sahib).

One of the musician couple Rajan-Sajan Mishra stated in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib and DSGMC leaders, that Kirtan in Basant Raag is a result of the hard-work of ‘Satguru’ Jagjit Singh Ji !! One member of DSGMC told the assistant of the speaker, to apologize for such a grave mistake, as Sikhs don’t consider any human body as ‘Satguru’. But the raag-expert continued praising Namdhari chief as ‘Jagjit Singh Ji Maharaj’.

But the most shocking and shameful part of this incident was that one of these ‘experts’ was carrying a packet of cigarettes in the pocket of his kurta. DSGMC member S. Inderjeet Singh Monty noticed this and the cigarette packet was taken out from his pocket with the help of a handkerchief.

All this happened in the presence of hundreds of people and during live telecast of programme on Time-TV. But the DSGMC or its Dharam Parchar Committee has not apologized to the Sikhs for their shameful involvement in this incident. Rather, they are making lame excuses to justify the kirtan by non-Sikh ‘raagis’ and the desecration of historical Gurudwara Sahib by bringing cigarettes inside diwan hall.

In my personal view, concerned Sikhs should make phone calls to DSMGC authorities and ashame them for their misdeeds, so that such incidents are not repeated in future. The phone numbers of some key DSGMC authorities are :

* Paramjeet Singh Sarna (President) – 9810640061

* Balbir Singh Vivek Vihar (Gen. Secretary) - 9899654000, 9868855555

* Daljeet Singh (Chairman-Dharam Parchar Committeee) – 9871610999

* Inderjeet Singh Monty (member-DSGMC, key witness of incident) – 9811174950

-Sarabjeet Singh, New Delhi

Editor-India Awareness

www.indiaawareness.com

Ph. : 9871683322

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Mata Sahib Kaur Gurmat College

& Gursikh Family Club, Faridabad. 

requests your presence on the occasion of

HOLLA MOHALLA

At Municipal Auditorium(Near Dusehra Ground)

 N.I.T. Faridabad (Haryana) India,

 Saturday 22^nd March 2008

The Details of program are as follows:

-: Programme :-

Registration & Breakfast  ------ 07:15 A.M. to 08:00 A.M

Gurbani Kirtan & Vichar-----08:00 A.M. to 08:40 A.M

Welcome Address  ---------- 08:40 A.M. to 08:45 A.M

Historical Character Show ------ 08:45 A.M. to 09:45 A.M

Veer Bhupinder Singh (U.S.A.) --------09:45 A.M. to 10:30 A.M

Vichar Goshti(Supermacy of SGGS) 10:30 A.M. to 11:40 A.M

Que.-Ans. Session ------- 11:40 A.M. to 12:00 P.M

Skit & Play ---- 12:00 P.M. to 12:20 P.M

Award Distribution  ---- 12:20 P.M. to 12:40 P.M

Guru ka Langar & Gatka   ------12:40 P.M. to 02:00 P.M

*Grand Finale Princess Khalsa & Prince Khalsa‘08 02:00 P.M. to 03:30 P.M

Tea Break -------- 03:30 P.M. to 04:00 P.M

**International Seminar (Topic:Dasam Granth) 04:00 P.M. to 07:00 P.M

Goshti's Speakers

Principal Baljeet Singh, Sahibjada Jujhar Singh Gurmat Miss. College, Ropar

S. Rajinder Singh, Convenor, Khalsa Panchayat

Principal Narinder Singh, Jammu

 

Seminar's Speakers

Jaswinder Singh, Dubai (Bhai Lalo Foundation)

Giani Jagtar Singh Jachak,  International Missionary,

    Ex-Granthi Darbar Sahib ASR

* Dr. Harjinder Singh " Dilgir" ( Sikh Historical Research Board, S.G.P.C., President, World Sikh Writers Conference) 

Prof. Gurtej Singh ( IAS, Professor of Sikhism)

Dr. Sarabjinder Singh SGGS Deptt., Punjabi University, Patiala 

* Dr. Gursharanjit Singh , Guru Nanak Dev University Amritsar

Principal Surjit Singh (Gurmat Education Centre, New Delhi)

Dr. Gurmukh Singh , New Delhi

Gurmit Singh Qadiani , Kapurthla

Rajinder Singh , Convenor Khalsa Panchayat

Dalbir Singh Missionary , Faridabad

* Principal Narinder Singh , Jammu

Prof. Harminder Singh Khalsa College, New Delhi

Prof. Inder Singh Ghagga (International Missionary Parcharak)

Hari Rattan Yukta

Giani Harbans Singh "Teg"

Gurmit Singh Qadiani , Kapurthala

Col. Gurdeep Singh, Shiromani Sikh Samaj

Kirpal Singh , Bhatinda

* H. Kaur , Khalsa Nari Manch

 

With the full co-operation of : -

* Dasam Granth Vichar Manch International

* Khalsa Nari Manch

* Shiromani Sikh Samaj

* Young Sikh Association

* Gurd. Singh Sabha Sec. 22  Faridabad

* Gurd. Singh Sabha Punjabi Coln' y , Faridabad

* Panth Khalsa Sewak Jatha Gurd. Singh Sabha Mkt. No.1 FBD.

* MSK Gurmat Educational Society

* Guru Nanak Mission , Gatka Akhara , Faridabad.

For more details Contact : 9811512636, 9899109540, 9310575604

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mlfr - 30 Èbd, 1 CMq

kfnVf - 50 Èbd, 1 CMq

kilafx - 10 Èbd

pRBfqI - 15 Èbd, 3 aÈtpdIaF

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"WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA

SRI WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH"

Baba ji mein chanpreet singh Malaysia ton ha. Mein tuade bare bahut Kuch sunya hei. Mein tuade ton ik sawal da jawab puchna chaunda ha ki "Sade 5^th Guru Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji diyan, Sri Guru Granth Sahib wich sab nalon jyada baniyan han, sirf ohna diyan he ehniya baniyan kyon han. Mein manda ha k ohna ne sab ton jyada bani likhiyan han par ohna ne he ehniyan jyada baniyan kyon likhyan han…??"

Tuada shubh chintak!!

Chanpreet Singh

(sMpfdk vloN jvfb: crnpRIq isMG jI ieh gwl quhfzI ibwlkuwl TIk hY ik sB qoN ijafdf bfxI pMjvyN gurU arjn sfihb jI ny ilKI hY. aqy ieh vI TIk hY ik sB qoN ijafdf bfxI nUM sMBflx, jfxI ik gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bIV iqafr krn dI socxI vI pMjvyN gurU dI hI hY. Auh afAux vfly smyN bfry jfxdy sn ik srIr qF iksy df vI sdf kfiem nhIN rihxf ies leI afAux vfly smyN ivc sdf leI agvfeI igafn gurU ny hI krnI hY. Auhnf ny afpxy nfnf jI Bfv ik gurU amrdfs jI dI god df inWG vI mfixaF hY aqy Auh cfhuMdy sn ik isWKF nUM hr pwK qoN vwD qoN vwD jIvn jFc dI agvfeI leI igafn idWqf jfvy)

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Satsari Akal ji,

I wish to share my personal family problem and seek advice to solve the same. First of all I would like to tell you about my self . By profession I am a Lecturer in a college and teach Computer Science. I belong to a Gursikh family and we firmly faith in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

I got married about 10 months ago with a girl belonging also to a Sikh family, and their residence is aprox 1 Km away from our home. She is also teacher of 10 std in a school. Before marriage they kept hidden certain things those were related to our faith and religion . And when the things started to come in the light I felt dishearten .

The Girl (my wife) after the marriage used to worship for 2 hours every day in the evening from 6 -8 pm , during the first 3-4 month I took it normally as normal worship , but after close observation I came to Know that she worships the Photos of Bhoot, Prait, Bhairav Ji Maharaj, Prait Raaj Maharaj, Bala ji , and recites so many Tantra Mantra , Hanuman Chalisa etc.

I asked her why do you do this, she replied that "Tohade ghar de vich bhoot Pret aatma da vaas hai jo ki mere sapne (dream ) de vich aunde ne and they seem to be your ancestors." I was shocked and disturbed after hearing this statement. My self and my family are well educated and do not faith in such things and also Gurbani does not permit Sikhs to get involve such misleading beliefs and worships as for as I am concerned.

After observing all these things I convinced her not to do such things and link her self only with Gurbani and faith only in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

She ignored my suggestions and is continuing her act and insults me by firing comments.

After this I contacted her elder brother and told the entire things, he also replied the same as her sister told me (my wife) and added that " your mother (mine) is also suffering from same things as my sister (my wife)" and proposed me to conduct Hawan in my premises to eliminate problems of Bhoot, Pret Baadha.

I resisted his opinions and felt insulted.

Actually my father is no more , mother is too old and all elder brothers are in Job in different cities therefore myself one day told all these things in short to her father , he replied " Jisnu Jis naal Khushi mildi hai , osnu Oh Kam Karan Deo", and started giving examples to prove this act as correct one.

During the month of December 07 her brother and mother took her (my wife) in the Temple of Mehndi Pur Ke Bala Ji, Bharat Pur Rajasthan (by giving me incorrect information about the purpose of visit) where they stayed for 11 days and Conducted so many Tantra Mantra , Jhaad Phook and Hawans.

After coming from there she was wearing TABEEZ

All the above mentioned points I concluded from conversation with my wife after she came back to home. And after her visit from that place she became more inclined towards such misleading worships and started behaving aggressively on this issue.

Sir ultimately my problem is that her mother and brother are giving her full protection to continue such things as well as her (my wife’s) inclination is increasing towards fake Babas , and misleading worships (worships of the Photos of Bhoot, Prait, Bhairav Ji Maharaj, Prait Raaj Maharaj, Bala ji , and recites so many Tantra Mantra , Hanuman Chalisa etc.)

And there fore effect of my counseling and guidance is going to yield no result.

I am afraid of future of my coming generation and environment of home turning towards wrong direction as she conducts Hawans and worships the Photos of Bhoot, Prait, Bhairav Ji Maharaj, Prait Raaj Maharaj, Bala ji , and recites so many Tantra Mantra , Hanuman Chalisa etc.).

Kindly help me by giving advice to overcome this faith related problem.

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Sikh Sangat Jio,

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh,

On event of Women International day, I hereby share a wonderful contribution by Khasla Nari Manch on unauthentic book and their promoters suppoters.

In past couple of years, everyone of us are getting clear signals that how anti Sikh cults, deravadh samaj, few long hair hindus want to bring the unauthentic so said dasam Granth in the fore front and slowly side line Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This will serve their purpose of finishing Sikhism and by this means some long hair hindus & said jathedars can fill their piggy banks for their self and their upcoming generations.

Guru Gobind Singh has ordered us to follow the Guru "Guru Granth Sahib" and "Guru Granth Sahib" only. But we do not listen to his order and on other hand in full swing busy in celebrating  300 years of Gurta Gadhi Dihara of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, where as the teaching & Sikhaya of Guru Granth Sahib Ji itself condemn the thoughts within this book complied by some harry and dick.

Thou, it is crystal clear that this said Dasam Granth that got different names and add ons thru different stages of time in recent century is not an authentic composition, is been promoted and supported by paid agents of Anti Sikh cults, owners of self established so said sikh magzine, news papers, even our illiterate and self interested Jathedhars (one of them enjoying two marriages) are seen to openly supporting this for their own and personal upliftement.

Panth Dhi Chardhikala

S. Surinder Singh

Surrey UK

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International Women Day and Dasam Granth's Anti-Gurmat writings

As whole Globe celebrate International Women’s Day on 8th March, 2008 it become very necessary to study Sikhism Teachings . Sikhism religion as started by Guru Nanak Sahib and formalized by Tenth Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh ji and philosophy gifted in the form of Shabad Guru…Sri Guru Granth Sahib...Commonly known as "Dasan Guru’an di Jyot" and also been reffered in Sikh Code of Conduct , as "Das Guru’an di Bani" . Sri Guru Granth Sahib gives Equality Status to Women 365 a day. As per Sikhism, all days are equal and Sikh Women enjoy same right as Men all the days of Year...

BMiz jMmIaY BMiz inMmIaY BMiz mMgxu vIafhu ]

BMzhu hovY dosqI BMzhu clY rfhu ]

BMzu muaf BMzu BflIaY BMiz hovY bMDfnu ]

so ikAu mMdf afKIaY ijqu jMmih rfjfn] (m:1, pMnf 473)

Guru Sahib has very beautifully Asked Question, Y to say badly to Women? Even Kings are born from Women? No man can exist without Women? Both Men and Women have equal responsibility towards running Society Successfully.

As we celebrate , Sri Guru Granth Sahib Tricentary (300 Sala) Gurta Gaddi Divas in Oct, 2008 it becomes duty of every Sikh of Guru Nanak’s house to preach , understand and spread message of Sikhism as enshrined in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. But to Shame as our so called Jathedaars are busy in mud slinging against each other and making fun of our own Sikh Code of Conduct? On other side, we have some Individuals especially dedicated to preach Anti-Gurmat writings to divide whole Sikh World at this crucial upcoming Event. When all Sikh World was looking for Educational Seminars on "Sri Guru Granth Sahib" , we r seeing some individuals played in hands of G.S.Lamba who has been on Special Mission to DIVIDE Sikh world and create Hatred among all Sikhs by giving Flaming Speeches , by Exploiting Sentiments of Sikh Youth by

-Fake Letter of Vedanti justifying Anti-Sikh Literature

- Self-Made statement Of Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindrawala.

It is very important to know about Anti-Sikh writings, which don’t fit as per Sri Guru Granth Sahib. As writings of Poet Ram, Poet Shyam, Poet Kaal are being collected by some Bipars and given the Shape of Granth to confuse all, and when read clearly mention name of book as – Bachitar Natak Granth. But as per some intentional plans of Anti-Sikh forces, it has been named as Dasam Granth with passing years, and with no surprise under the success of plan some people have started calling it as Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib ji. It becomes very necessary to understand, which people are behind in preaching Anti-Gurmat writings and fooling all to accept it as Tenth Nanak’s writing?

Let us see, how Bachitar Natak Granth (False Name = Dasam Granth) says so badly about Women?

Neva Trust Women as per Dasam Granth (B.N.G)

As Poet Ram/Poet Shyam/Poet Shyam clearly mentions name of book as Bachitar Natak , but fooled by Bipar Policy we call it ? Dasam ? Granth? , which is fearing our Sikh Brother/Sisters to see TRUTH. But when one starts reading contents, there won't b much time, when one will reject this TEXT saying so bad about WOMEN.

Women in Triya Chariter of Dasam Granth

(Excerpts from Chritro Pakhyaan in English in 2 volumes, published by CSJS Amritsar)

Triya Chariter 10

gMDRb jC BujMg gn nr bpury ikn mfih ]

dyv adyv iqRXfn ky Byv pCfnq nfih ] 13]

The gods, such as Gandharabh, Jach, Bhujang, Dev, Devil, none could fathom the attributes of the women, Then what the poor human creatures could achieve.(13) (1)

Triya Chariter 11

inju mn kI kCu bfq n iqRX ko dIijXY ] qf ko icq curfie sdf hI lIijXY ]

inju mn kI qf so jo bfq sunfieXY ] ho bfhr pRgtq jfie afpu pCuqfieXY ] 20]

Never let a woman know what is in your mind. Rather learn what are her internal thoughts.

Once she is in the know of the secret, that must become an open secret otherwise you will have to repent thereafter. (20) (1)

Triya Chariter 12

jo inju iqRX ko dyq purK Byd kCu afpno ]

qf ky ibDnf lyq pRfn hrn kir plk mY ] 30]

The human being who divulges even a bit of his secret to his spouse, The contriver annihilates him in an iota of the time period. (30)(1)

Triya Chariter 13

iqRXih n dIjY Byd qfih Byd lIjY sdf ]

khq isMimRiq aru byd koksfrAU XO khq ] 10]

The gist of the Simritis, Vedas and Koka Shastras is that the secret might not be imparted to the females. Rather, instead, one should try to understand her enigmas.(10) (1)

Triya Chariter 15

bhu lognu dyKq jrI iek pg TfZI soie ]

hyir rIiJ rIiJk rhy Byd n jfnq koie ] 10]

skl jgq mY jy purKu iqRX ko krq ibsÍfs ]

sfiq idvs BIqr qurqu hoq qvn ko nfs ] 11]

When many people saw her immolating herself. They were satisfied with her sincerity but they did not realize the truth.(10) One who trust (such) a woman, within seven days he destroys himself. (11)

Contd.

Triya Chariter 24

cMclfn ky cirqR ko skq n koAU pfie ]

cMdR sUr sur asur sB bRhm ibsn sur rfie ] 49]

No one can understand the cryptic character of women,

Not even sun, moon, gods, demons, Brahmas, Vishnu and Indra. (49)(1)

Triya Chariter 66

aiqBuq giq binqfn kI ijh n skq koAu pfie ]

Byd hfQ afvY nhI koitn ikXy Aupfie ] 28]

The accomplishments of the women are such that no one can acquiesce.

In spite of numerous endeavours, one cannot understand their enigma. (28)(1)

Triya Chariter 67

ikMnr jC BujMg gn nr muin dyv adyv ]

iqRX cirqR ko icq mY rMc n cInq Byv ] 15]

Kinnar, Jachh,, Bhujang, Gann, Humans and Ascetic, all types of gods,

Could not understand the attributes of the female. (15) (1)

Triya Chariter 84

binqf cirq hfQ nih afXo ] dYv dYq iknhUM nih pfXo ]

iqRXf cirqR n ikshU kihXY ] icq mY smiJ moin hÍY rihXo ] 21]

No body, not even the gods and the demons, can grasp the female attributes. What should we designate as female attribute? It is rather prudent to keep quiet. (21)(1)

Triya Chariter 124

bRhm ibsn sr asur sB rYnfiDp idnrfie ]

byd bÎfs aru byd iqRX Byd sky nih pfie ] 15]

Brahma, Vishnu, the gods, the devils, the sun, the moon, The sage Viyas, and them all, could not fathom the females. (15) (1)

Triya Chariter 129

BUq BivK Bvfn mY suinXq sdf bnfie ]

cquir cirqRn kO sdf Byv n pfXo jfie ] 40]

This will remain prevalent in the present and the future that, The secrets of the delusions of a clever woman cannot be conceived. (40) (1)

Triya Chariter 273

as iqRX pRQm Bjq BI jf ko ] ieh cirqR puin mfirXo qf ko ]

ien abln kI rIiq apfrf ] ijn ko afvq vfr n pfrf ] 11]

This way, the one she had sex with, she assassinated

Such tricks of the women are boundless; no one can acquiesce them. (11)

Triya Chariter 336

cMclfn ky cirq ko skq n koeI ibcfr ]

bRhm ibsn isv Kt bdn ijn isrjI krqfr ] 12]

The female attributes have not spared any one,

Including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and, even, Almighty who

created her.(12)

As these writings clearly says, Not to Trust Women? It seems shame to see people are bent to prove it as the writings of Tenth Nanak . Even Dharam Parchar Committee of SGPC has rejected Triya Charitar back in 1970’s , its failure to implement decision has made Mess as our Gurudwara administration is again in hands of Mahants ? And they are eager to place these Anti-Gurmat writings at par with Sri Guru Granth Sahib?

And with no surprise, supporters of Bachitar Natak Granth are those, who never ever accepted, Sikh Rehat Maryada of Akal Takhat as published in 1945. All Sects/Dera’s are leading to preach Dasam Granth? And it has been same effect of this Triya Charitar when these individuals and Samparda’s like Taksal, Nihangs opposed move of:

-Sikh Women as Granthis

-Sikh Women as doing Kirtan in Darbar Sahib

-Sikh Women doing duty of Khande-Di-Paul Cermony.

It is appeal to Sikh Sangat all over especially Sikh Women to raise their Voice against Anti-Gurmat writings, which says so ILL about Women Character? Sikh Women shall rise above their Jathebandic Stands, and be a Sikh of Sri Guru Granth Sahib. As Sikh take Life’s every Guidance from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Sri Granth Sahib Philosphy lead Sikh into Successful Life by helping Human to get Secure against ills of Kam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Hankaar.

ijnHf nfAu suhfgxI iqnHHf Jfk n hor ] 114] (gurU gRMQ sfihb pMnf-1384)

Those who are known as happy soul-brides do not look to others. ||114||

And Sikh of Guru..Sri Guru Granth Sahib is complete in every aspect and one do darshan and take Guidance of All Ten Nanak’s in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, so one need not to Look outside towards writing of Poet Ram, Poet Shyam , Poet Kaal ?

Its time to look, who are preaching Gurmat and who are preaching Anti-Gurmat? Sangat need to make decision for how long we have to continue looking Insult being made by some individuals by Attributing Low Level Writings to our Tenth Nanak?

As G.S.Lamba is in forefront dividing whole Sikh E-Sangat, we invite him to give us time , to have Explanation of Triya Chartiar among his Female Family Members to be recorded live and put up on Net World ?

Guru Panth di Sewak Jathebandi

Khalsa Nari Manch

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G. S. Lamba in Dasam Granth Seminar

Dear editor,

A seminar was organized in Bradshaw Gurdwara in Sacramento, CA in February 2008 where the speakers supposedly discussed Dasam Granth. I could not get enough time to watch all videos in one go, but made sure to first listen to Gurcharanjit Singh Lamba who is very proactive on the topic. For some reason, he sounded like coming from the same training system as that of Dr. (phony) Amarjit Singh (http://www.khalistan-affairs.org). In his entire ~ 54 mins of talk, G. S. Lamba rarely talks/cites from AGGS. However, what he does cite is "jugo jug atal Ram Katha" and tries to incite violent reaction against anybody who raises a question on content of Dasam Granth. For this, he could be charged with instigating hatred and violence in the U.S. under the law.

In the video, G. S. Lamba is saying that just like Akaal Takhat is needed in addition to Golden Temple , Dasam Granth is needed in addition to AGGS. He says that things which have not been said clearly in AGGS have been told clearly in Dasam Granth. So according to G. S. Lamba, AGGS does not give clear message and Dasam Granth is needed to understand it. Then he says that we talk about 4 things. AGGS talks about dharam and moksh but it does not talk about the other 2 which are covered by Dasam Granth. I have not heard anything more illiterate than this. If Dasam Granth was intended to complete the voidness (according to G. S. Lamba), then does it mean the Guru Gobind Singh made mistake by not asking Sikhs to take Dasam Granth as Guru as well?

He says that AGGS is for all but Akal Takhat is for Sikhs only. And then says that -"Khalse de jede faraz hann, unna the prapti sanu sirf Dasam Granth ton hi prapat hovegi." This statement is nothing more than gobbledygook. What "farz" is he talking about here, one gets no idea?

He continues with funny statement that we have got so much freedom that some people have started doing "charitar hannan" of Gurus (indicating to Guru Gobind Singh). He then again tries to instigate people against Sikh scholars who are researching on Dasam Granth by making the statement - "they are doing to because, perhaps they have come to know that the Sikhs are not longer the same Sikhs who would not tolerate any "ninda" of their Gurus.". He incites people further by using Jarnail Singh Bhindranwala's name and asking - "what would happen if these people, who say they used to be close to Jarnail Singh Bhindranwala, said it in front of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwala?"

According to G. S. Lamba, anybody who is researching on content of Dasam Granth is just talking what Swami Dayanand Saraswati said. By this claim, G. S. Lamba is perhaps trying to cash on by creating another blind-folded hatred against the researchers on Dasam Granth. In fact, Swami Dayanand Saraswati would have been the happiest person on the earth to accept entire Dasam Granth. He would have been friends with G. S. Lamba et al and not the people with other point of view.

The most outrageous comment from G. S. Lamba in the video was: -

"Sri Dasam Granth di bani sadi jindagi da amal hai, eh sanu jeevandaan den layi hai. Sikh nu Sikh banan layi, Sikh nu Sikh kayam rakhan layi Eh bani Sri Dasam pita di bani bina, na kissey Sikh banaya ja sakda hai na kisey nu Sikh kayam rakhya ja sakda hia, is wich kisey kism da shak nahi reha"

What?? ..does that mean there were no Sikhs before Dasam Granth appeared on the scene?

On the question that he has not read AGGS and Dasam Granth he gives another funny statement - "Bilkul sahi, guru nu padya nahi ja sakda, guru ton padya ja sakda hai" One is left wondering - Does this statement answer what he pretends to answer by it?

Further in the video, he is saying that its was Akaal from whom Durga got "vardaan" and killed the "Rakshas". The question to ask G. S. Lamba is- does Gurbani agree with this view? Does gurbani agree that somebody can sit in "tapsya" and get special powers from God? G. S. Lamba also says in the video that the metaphorical sentence "Sawa Lakh Se Ik ladayoon" literally means the same.

Towards the end he is citing a chandd and is saying that - Guru Gobind Singh is asking the almighty for both - good and bad thoughts. Now this is shocking, G. S. Lamba should corroborate his claim by citing AGGS that Sikhs should deliberately ask for bad thoughts.

To summarize, G. S. Lamba in this video does not present even a single thought provoking argument in favor of his views. All that he does is an attempt to instigate violence against Sikh researchers who are working on authenticity of Dasam Granth.

Regards,
-Akashdeep Singh

Appendix
For sake of readers who are unaware of this seminar, the following information is reproduced: -

The seminar videos can be seen here:
1. http://www.sridasamgranth.com/#/sridasamgranthinternationa/4527492983
2. http://www.sridasamgranth.com/#/sridasamgranthinternationa/4527525513

G. S. Lamba is the last speaker in the video link #2 above. He is the current editor of magazine "Sant Sipahi". Sikhs should listen to videos to see what these "leaders" are saying and what they want you to believe.

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Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu in the Dasam Granth Seminar
Dear editor, my curiosity on the "International Seminar on Dasam Granth" (Bradshaw Gurdwara, Stockton, CA, Feb 2008) continued and I started listening carefully to one more video posted at the website www.sridasamgranth.com. The speaker was much publicized Ph.D. holder with the credentials of having advised 3 Ph. D.s on the topic of Dasam Granth and known as Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu. Just like one would expect from a Ph.D. , my expectation from Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu's speech was to hear something pithy and thought provoking, does not matter if the same is said in simple language. However, I can only say that I am disappointed and I believe that he has not done justice to his Ph. D. degree in the speech.

In the seminar videos, Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu says -"...is sacramento di dharti te aseen sarey kathey hoye yaan ajj eh sabit karan layi, ke Sri Dasam Granth Sahib atey Guru Gobind Singh ji de pavan charana ton wadh sari duniya wich sadey layi koi cheej nahi hai". Right in the beginning Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu is reflecting what the focus of the talk will be and what he wants his listeners to believe. However, let me remind Dr. Pannu that it is AGGS (Aad Guru Granth Sahib) that the Sikhs behold as the highest bani and not anything else.

According to Dr. Pannu one should either say that all the banis are of Guru Gobind Singh or none of them are from Tenth Nanak. He says that those people who present the view that only some of the current content of Dasam Granth could be from the pen of Tenth Nanak are cowards. According to Dr. Pannu these people are saying so as they are afraid of being thrashed. They fear raising the voice against Nitnem banis. Does Dr. Pannu want people to change views because he thinks there can only be 2 types of views that can exist, or does Dr. Pannu want researchers to get instigated by his comment and pass illogical statement on which he can later cash on? Answers are known to Dr. Pannu only as he does not make them enough clear in his talk.

Dr. Pannu says that starting from Teja Singh Bhasod, Giani Bhag Singh and to the present 3-4 people like "Ragi Darshan Singh" (who are talking on the content of Dasam Granth), it has been a trend of first attacking Dasam Granth and then following up with an attack on Guru Granth. He says, "...this has continued from 300 years". One should listen carefully what he is saying - that the current Dasam Granth has been in the intact form from last 300 years. Just like other speakers in the seminar, Dr. Pannu very quickly resorts to emotional blackmail and building fear in the minds by saying that people will now attack Guru Granth.

His focus on Jarnail Singh Bhindranwala is also noteworthy, perhaps this is yet another method to evoke emotional outbursts and block logical thinking among the listeners.

After 05 mins of talking he states lets talk about the topic. He says same things like G.S. Lamba that AGGS is for internal strength, but Dasam Granth helps in outward war and prepares one externally.

The following comment from Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu would sound outrageous to any Sikh of Guru Nanak –

"...kai bari rabb dharti te aake ither dakhal dinda hai....dwapar with Krishan ji, pher Ram Chandar ji...."

(…sometimes Akaal takes birth on this earth and interferes with the things in progress ….in dwapar Krishan ji, then Ram Chandar ji are some of the examples)

With this claim, Dr. Pannu is totally flouting the opening verse of AGGS. On one hand he tries to emotionally blackmail the audience by saying that if you will not stop people from raising questions on Dasam Granth they will attack AGGS as well, on the other hand he himself is talking against the principles and philosophies that are mentioned in AGGS. Now, if God takes birth and comes into the form, then Dr. Pannu must be disagreeing on the opening verse of AGGS, right?

In the previous claim, Dr. Pannu is not talking anything coherent with AGGS, but is just repeating the view in Bhagwat Geeta’s Sanskrit shlok reproduced below:-

"Oh Arjuna! When there is a decline in Dharma and rise in Adharma, I incarnate for the establishment of Dharma."

[Sanskrit Verse, Bhagwat Gita, Chapter IV -7]

"To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I Myself appear, millennium after millennium."

[Sanskrit Verse, Bhagwat Gita, Chapter IV -8]

Bharat is a known address for Arjun (a character in Mahabharat), and in the shlok above, it is believed, that Krishan is talking with Arjun.

On the other hand, AGGS opens with the following view which should be clear to every reasonable Sikh: -

One is left wondering about Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu's choice of priorities in choosing examples and his source of philosophies.

According to Dr. Pannu, if AGGS is the soul Dasam Granth is its body or the skin. He says that if soul is not present the body is useless and similarly if body is not present soul cannot be found anywhere. He furthers this logic by stating that Dasam Granth is our fortress (intended for protection). It is left to the readers to decide how much obnoxious this comment from Dr. Pannu is.

Then continues with the claim that Bachitter Natak is the autobiography of Guru Gobind Singh ji and in it Guru wrote about his previous births. He says that Buddhism and Vedantism has the tradition of telling the previous birth by creating mythological stories before writing the Granth.

He mentions that he is ready and open to ideas as we all Sikhs are learners till the end, however does not reflect the same in his talk. Now note his focus, what he wants to spray on the minds of the young listeners - "Gairatmand Hindus became Sikhs". He also says that Guru Gobind Singh ji told about his previous life in the lines "Mahakaal Kalika Aradhi ...." so that the purpose of writing Dasam Granth could become clear. (…one may wonder, is AKJ now agreeing on the definition of Mahakaal). There are other things to wonder on this claim from Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu, but these are left to the interested readers.

What follows up after is perhaps the most insulting statement anybody can make on AGGS right in the face of Sikhs. Dr. Pannu says that via Bachitter Natak Guru Gobind Singh ji is telling that the Truth was brought into this world via various granths like Mahabharat and the Vedas, he is saying that the Rigvedas contain truth. Dr. Pannu further says that Guru Gobind Singh ji is saying that the Rigvedas contain the Truth which as brought in this world by the vedic rishis but now the world has forgotton that Truth. (Great! now one can clearly see the ulterior motive of Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu). He is then saying that Guru Gobind Singh ji is saying that it was him who released the Rigved, it was him who brought the Naths, it was him who did the "tapsyas". And then Dr. Pannu throws the most intolerable blow in the face of Sikhs by saying, "Guru Gobind Singh ji (in Bachchiter Natak) is saying that I will now present the same truth (from Rigvedas) in front of you, but in a different language".

He claims - "I have studied all the major religions of the world and none of the writers of those Granths say that they are going to tell you some new thing. They all said that I am going to give you the truth that was told by our ancestors and that you have now forgotten". Nothing can be more far from truth than this statement. In fact, many religions existing in this world claim that theirs is the only Truth. Not just that, they claim theirs is the only first and last Truth of life which can save you from "Hell" or give you some kind of "Moksha".

He further says that - Guru Gobind Singh ji found many instances of Hindu mythological characters in the Guru Granth sahib and realized that it will be the Hindus which will follow the Khalsa Panth and not the Muslims, and hence he wrote the stories in Dasam Granth. Dr. Pannu then asserts, "The flow of Khalsa panth has come out of the Hindus".

He follows up with a lame logic comprised out of assumption that all the people are opposing or researching the content of Dasam Granth just because RSS is adopting it. He then asks, "If RSS adopts Guru Granth sahib, will you then say the same about it?"

He then alleges that Guru Gobind Singh is using slandering language for the Hindu characters like Krishan etc. One should note that Professor Sahib Singh in his teeka of AGGS did not even accept that a ridiculing language against other people could ever be cited in by the Gurus in AGGs, forget about themselves uttering such words. On the other hand, Dr. Pannu is saying that Guru Gobind Singh is using that language in derogatory sense because he does not have belief in such characters. While it seems fine that Guru Gobind Singh ji did not have belief in these characters, but would he use such kind of language?

First, Dr. Pannu says that nobody gave a new theory in their Granths but just repeated what was said before the period. Then he says Rigveda say the truth and Guru Gobind Singh ji just repeated that truth in Dasam Granth using different langauge. According to Hindu belief the vedas are a direct language of the GOD. So, here Dr. Pannu proves that Sikhism is nothing but just a branch (or may be the same) of Hinduism. He then continues with a self-conflicting view that people who give new meanings to the old mythological stories are very powerful and fertile minds.

He cites Bhansavalinama of Kesar Singh chibber, that people asked Guru what will be the status of Dasam Granth and then Guru replied, "Consider it my play", then Guru gave birth to the "chota granth ji" by his own hands and "played with it with his own hands".

He agrees that the older name of this granth was "Bachchiter Natak" and the "Khalsa Panth" kept the name "Dasam Granth" and that keeping this name is the prerogative of the Khalsa Panth. He then says that the world is not categorized in AGGS but Dasam Granth presents a well categorized view of the world.

Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu's speech contains claims contradictory to AGGS (Aad Guru Granth Sahib) and is loaded with emotional appeals (one can call emotional blackmail). One can note that his speech is full of pathos and lacks the logos altogether. This cannot be a speech by someone with the credentials that Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu is perceived with, and hence he kills the ethos himself. What is left in the speech for the listeners to grasp?

Regards,
Akashdeep Singh
Portland, OR

Appendix
For sake of readers who are unaware of the different threads in the forum on this seminar, the following information is reproduced: -

The seminar videos can be seen here:
1. http://www.sridasamgranth.com/#/sridasamgranthinternationa/4527492983
2. http://www.sridasamgranth.com/#/sridasamgranthinternationa/4527525513

Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu speaks in the video #1 in the link #1 above. Sikhs should listen to videos to see what these "leaders" are saying and what they want you to believe.

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gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

ÃÄ siqgur pRsfid]

aMimRqsr dy ieÈnfn

afpF sfiraF nUM pqf hY ik iswK prvfr jF koeI iewklf iswK ijQy vI rihMdf hovy jF ijs hflq ivwc ivcr irhf hovy, Auh svyry-Èfm, akfl purK dI rihmq df Èukrfnf krdy hn aqy bynqI krdy hn: “iswKF nUM iswKI dfn, kys dfn, rihq dfn, ibbyk dfn, ivsfh dfn, Brosf dfn, dfnF isr dfn, nfm dfn, sRI aMimRqsr jI dy ieÈnfn, cONkIaF, JMzy, buMgy jugo jug atwl, Drm kf jYkfr, bolo jI vfihgurU!

First of all, let us try to understand about “Amritsar City”, the foundation of which was laid in 1577 by Guru Ramdas Sahib (1574-1581). Guru Sahib encouraged the followers practicing various trades and professions to take up residence for catering the needs of other persons. Thus, the town expanded further under Guru Arjan Sahib (1581-1606), who completed the Sarovar – Tank and constructed the Darbaar Sahib. After compilation of Gurbaani uttered by the Gurus, Bhagats, Bhatts and the devoted Sikhs, Granth Sahib was placed open in the Darbaar Sahib on 16^th August 1604. Subsequently in 1609, Guru Hargobind Sahib (1606-1644) constructed the Akaal Takht Sahib. Since then this city has been known as “Amritsar”, the Headquarter of the Sikh Affairs. Every Sikh is ever eager to pay obeisance by visiting the “Darbaar Sahib Complex” and most of the foreign Dignitaries also visit and feel harmony and peace.

Before breathing his last on 7^th October 1708, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib had ordained all the Sikhs to obey the Guru Granth Sahib. Hence, we always need to comprehend Gurbaani contained in the Guru Granth Sahib. In respect of “Amrit Sar”, following Shabds are shared -

mfrU mhlf ñ, pMnf ñúññ] guru sfgru aMimRq sru jo ieCy so Plu pfey] nfmu pdfrQu amru hY ihrdY mMin vsfey] gur syvf sdf suK hY ijs no hukmu mnfey] ÷]

arQ: gurU smuMdr hY, gurU aMimRq nfl Biraf hoieaf srovr hY aqy jyhVf pRfxI gurbfxI df Et-afsrf lYNdf hY, AuhI afnMd-meI jIvn bqIq krdf hY. afpxy ihrdy ivwc akfl purK df nfm

gRihx krnf cfhIdf hY ikAuNik swcf nfm hI sdf shfeI hox vflf hY. gurU dy AupdyÈ anusfr jyhVf pRfxI akfl purK dI rËfa ivwc rihMdf hY, Auh sMsfrI bMDnF qoN mukq ho jFdf hY.

The Guru is like the ocean over-whelming with Amrit, God’s True Naam. The true devotee, who abides by the Guru’s teachings, leads a satiated life. If we wish to attain emancipation in life, we should always recite God’s True Naam with devotion. By virtue of Guru’s teachings when the person accepts God’s Command, such a person gets rid of all the worldly sufferings. [Amrit Sar: Spiritual and Temporal]

mfru mhlf ñ, pMnf ñúôó] syvhu siqgur smuMdu aQfhf] pfvhu nfmu rqnu

Dnu lfhf] ibiKaf mlu jfie aMimRq sir nfvhu gur sr sMqoKu pfieaf] ø]

arQ: akfl purK siqgurU iewk ivÈfl smuMdr hY, ijs ivwc bhuq kImqI rqn pey hoey hn pr ienHF dI pRfpqI akfl purK df nfm gRihx krky hI ho skdI hY. aMimRq nfm nUM ihrdy ivwc vsfa ky hI mfieaf-moh dI mYl Auqr skdI hY qF iPr gurU jYsf sMqoKI jIvn iml skdf hY.

Akaal Purkh (God) is a vast ocean, which contains invaluable jewels in the spirit of the True Naam but these could only be obtained if the devotee follows God’s like virtues. The person, who inculcates the love of God in the heart, overcomes the vicious thoughts, which then enables the true devotee to lead the contended life.

mfJ mhlf ó, pMnf ññó] hAu vfrI jIAu vfrI gur crxI icqu lfvixaf]

siqguru hY aMimRq sru sfcf mnu nfvY mYlu cukfvixaf] ñ] rhfAu]

afsf mhlf ó, pMnf óöó] gur pUry qy pUrf pfey] ihrdY sbdu scu nfmu vsfey]

aMqru inrmlu aMimRq sir nfey] sdf sUcy sfic smfey] ò]

gUjrI kI vfr mhlf ó] pAuVI, pMnf õñú] sBu jgu iPir mY dyiKaf hir ieko dfqf] Aupfie ikqY n pfeIaY hir krm ibDfqf] gur sbdI hir min vsY hir shjy jfqf] aMdrhu iqRsnf agin buJI hir aMimRq sir nfqf] vzI vizafeI vzy kI gurmuiK bolfqf] ö]

mfrU mhlf ó, pMnf ñúôö] sbid mrY soeI jnu pUrf] siqguru afiK suxfey sUrf] kfieaf aMdir aMimRq sru sfcf mnu pIvY Bfie suBfeI hy] ô]

mhlf ó, pMnf ñôñò] lfhOr shru aMimRq sru isPqI df Gru] òø]

Lahore City is like the hell when innocent people are killed and terrorized but the same city becomes praise-worthy when God’s Virtues are recited.

isrIrfgu mhfl ô, pMnf ôú] siqguru purKu aMimRq sru vzBfgI nfvih afie] Aun jnm jnm kI mYlu AuqrY inrml nfmu idRVfie] jn nfnk Auqm pdu pfieaf siqgur kI ilv lfie] ô] ò] öö]

rfgu gAuVI pUrbI mhlf ô krhly, pMnf òóô] mn krhlf myry pRfn qUM mYlu pfKMzu Brmu gvfie] hir aMimRqsru guir pUiraf imil sMgqI mlu lih jfie] ÷]

gAuVI kI vfr mhlf ô, pMnf óúõ] gur siqgur kf jo isKu aKfey su Blky AuiT hir nfmu iDafvY] Audmu kry Blky prBfqI iesnfnu kry aMimRq sir nfvY] Aupdyis gurU hir hir jpu jfpY siB iklivK pfp doK lih jfvY] iPir cVY idvsu gurbfxI gfvY bhidaf AuTidaf hir nfmu iDafvY] jo sfis igrfis iDafey myrf hir hir so gurisKu gurU min BfvY] ijs no dieaflu hovY myrf suafmI iqsu gurisK gurU Aupdysu suxfvY] jnu nfnku DUiV mMgY iqsu gurisK kI jo afip jpY avrh nfmu jpfvY] ò]

gUjrI mhlf ô, pMnf ôùó] aMimRq sru siqguru siqvfdI ijqu nfqY kAUaf

hMsu hohY] nfnk Dnu DMnu vzy vzBfgI ijnH gurmiq nfmu irdY mlu DohY] ô] ò]

sUhI mhlf ô, pMnf ÷óò] hmu mYlu Bry duhcfrIaf hir rfKhu aMgI aMÕu]

guir aMimRq sir nvlfieaf siB lfQy iklivK pMÕu] ó]

nt mhlf ô, pMnf ùøñ] rfm hir aMimRq sir nfvfry]

siqguir igafnu mjnu hY nIko imil klml pfp Auqfry] ñ] rhfAu]

Aupr ilKy ÈbdF qoN ieh soJI pRfpq huMdI hY ik ieh sfry Èbd aMimRqsr Èihr vsfAux qoN pihlF dy Aucfrn kIqy hoey hn. ies leI, gurbfxI anusfr sfzI ardfs akfl purK qoN asIN gurÈbd dI bKiÈÈ leI hI bynqI krdy hF qF jo asIN akfl purK dy Bfxy ivwc rih ky, afpxf jIvn sPl kr skIey. pr, sfzI ibrqI duinafvIN mfieaf-moh dy lflc ivwc hox krky, asIN aMimRqsr Èihr ivKy pfxI dy srovr ivwc cuwbI mfr ky hI sfry rUhfnI gux pRfpq krnf cfhuMdy hF. sfnUM afm pRclq sfKIaf suxf ky Brm ivwc pf idwqf igaf hY ijs sdkf bhuq sfry isK, ihMdUaF dy qIrQF vFg srovrF ivwc ieÈnfn krky KuÈ huMdy hn. aYsy aMD-ivÈvfÈ krky, bhuigxqI ivwc iswK prvfr sMgrRFd/pUrnmfÈI/misaf vfly idn gurduafiraF ivKy sQfpq kIqy srovr, ihMdUaF dy gMgf ieÈnfn vFg hI pRqIq huMdy hn. pRbMDk BI ÉuÈ huMdy hn ik golk bhuq iewkTI hoeI aqy rfgI isMGF dIaF BI jybF Br jFdIaF hn. pr, ijs mnmiq qoN gurU sfihbfn ny sfnUM vrijaf sI, asIN iPr pUry jor-Èor nfl ÈurU kr idwqI! vfihgurU sumiq bÉÈy!

afsf mhlf ñ, pMnf ôñù] ieik igrhI syvk sfiDkf gurmqI lfgy]

nfmu dfnu iesnfnu idRVu hir Bgiq su jfgy] ÷]

There are countless persons leading the life of householders, who follow the Guru’s teachings and serve the True Lord by inculcating God’s virtues within their hearts. Such devotees remain engaged in reciting God’s True Naam as well as encourage others to follow the righteous way of life, which is tantamount to share alms and bathing.

isrIrfgu mhlf õ, pMnf ÷ó] suix glf gur pih afieaf] nfmu dfnu iesnfnu idVfieaf] sBu mukqu hoaf sYsfrVf nfnk scI byVI cfiV jIAu] ññ]

Listening to the Greatness of the True Lord, I too sought Guru’s support. Guru Sahib blessed me the love of True Naam, Charity and the Purity of deeds. Thus by virtue of the Guru’s teachings, the whole world could achieve emancipation.

gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc byaMq Èbd hn jyhVy sfnUM syD idMdy hn ik bfhr dy ieÈnfn kIiqaf sfzy aMdr dy kfm, kRoD, loB, moh, aMhkfr dI mYl kdy BI nhI AuqrdI. gurU sfihb ibafn krdy hn:

vfr mfJ kI mhlf ñ, pMnf ñóù] vsqR pKfil pKfly kfieaf afpy sMjim hovY] aMqir mYlu lgI nhI jfcY bfhrhu mil mil DovY]

isrIrfgu mhlf ó, pMnf óô] sqguru purKu n mMinE sbid n lgo ipafru] iesnfnu dfnu jyqf krih dUjY Bfie Kuafr]

gAuVI mhlf õ, pMnf òúñ] pUjf iqlk krq iesnfnF]

CurI kfiZ lyvY hiQ dfnf] ò]

gAuVI kbIr jI, pMnf óòô] sMiDaf pRfq iesnfnu krfhI]

ijAu Bey dfdur pfnI mfhI] ñ]

gurU nfnk sfihb sfzy Aupr bKiÈÈ krdy hn, pr asIN krm-kFz ivwc hI Psy rihxf psMd krdy hF:

jpu jI sfihb (ö): qIriQ nfvf jy iqsu Bfvf ivxu Bfxy ik nfie krI]

sUhI mhlf ñ, pMnf ÷óú] BFzf hCf soie jo iqsu BfvsI] BFzf aiq mlIxu Doqf hCf n hoiesI] gurU duafrY hoie soJI pfiesI] eyqu duafrY Doie hCf hoiesI]

gurbfxI anusfr, gurduafrf sfihb, lMgr dI prMprf, bOlIaF-srovr aqy sMgq-pMgq df mksd sI / hY ik iswK Drm nUM mMnx vfly iksy nfl iksy iksm df ivqkrf nhIN krdy, hr pRfxI iek-brfbr hY aqy sfry pUrI iewËq nfl igafn pRfpq krky, afpxf jIvn sPlf kr skdy hn. iksy grIb dI syvf krnf BI, nfm jpfAux dI syvf hY aqy ieMj hI, gurmiq anusfr ieÈnfn qoN isrP afpxf srIr Doxf hI nhIN, sgoN ihrdy dI pivwqqrqf bxfeI rwKxf aqy sicafr jIvn bqIq krnf hY.

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf vfihgurU kI Ìiqh

Bulxhfr dfsrf,

gurmIq isMG (iswznI, imqI ò mfrc òúúø)

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srbjIq isMG

cODr dy BuwKy idwlI dy iswK afgUaF dI afpsI lVfeI ny
iswK kOm df isr iek vfr iPr nIvF krvfieaf

nvIN idwlI (svrx isMG) 12/02/2008 : dyÈ-ivdyÈ ivwc vwK-vwK muwidaF kfrn muÈklF df sfhmxf kr rhI iswK kOm dy BivwK leI koeI sfrQk nIqI Ausfrn dI bjfey iswK afgU cODr dI hvs pUrI krn leI gurduafiraF ƒ isafsq df aKfVf bxfAux qoN vI sMkoc nhIN kr rhy. ies qwQ df pRgtfvf awj Aus smyN iek vfr iPr ho igaf jd idwlI iswK gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI dI kiQq ‘ivroDI-iDr` nfl sbMiDq kuJ mYNbrF aqy AunHF dy smrQkF ny prmjIq isMG srnf dI agvfeI vfly ‘swqfDfrI` gut qoN cODr df hwk Kohx leI gu: rkfb gMj sfihb ivKy siQq kmytI dy dÌqr ivwc huwlVbfËI kIqI aqy asiBak ÈbdfvlI df AupXog kIqf. ÈRomxI akflI dl (bfdl) aqy ÈRomxI akflI dl (pMQk) nfl sbMiDq ienHF mYNbrF vwloN kmytI dy mOjUdf pRDfn sR: prmjIq isMG srnf qoN mMg kIqI jf rhI sI ik Auh kmytI dy aMiqRMg borz, ijsdI imafd 9 PrvrI ƒ hI Éqm ho cuwkI hY, dIaF coxF jld qoN jld krvfAux.

AuWDr sR: prmjIq isMG srnf vI eynI asfnI nfl kursI dI qfkq ƒ afpxy hwQoN inklx nhIN dyxf cfhuMdy. ies sfl dy aMq ivwc idwlI ivDfn sBf dIaF afm coxF dOrfn kmytI dy iksy vI pRDfn ƒ, isafsI pfrtIaF nfl gMZquwp krn bdly, bhuq sfrIaF injI pRfpqIaF ho skdIaF hn. idwlI dy iqMnoN akflI dlF dy afgU prmjIq isMG srnf, avqfr isMG ihwq aqy mnjIq isMG jI[ ky[ , ies qwQ qoN cMgI qrHF vfikÌ hox kfrn, idwlI kmytI dy pRbMD ƒ afpxy hwQF ivwc lYx leI bysbry hn. bfdl dl aqy pMQk dl dy mYNbrF dI kul igxqI 20 bxdI hY pr Auh cMgI qrHF jfxdy hn ik vwK-vwK kfrnF kfrn prmjIq isMG srnf qoN nrfË, Aus dI pfrtI dy mYNbrF ƒ mfieaf dy gwPy dy ky, aMiqRMg borz dIaF coxF dOrfn afpxI mrËI dy ahudydfr cuxn leI, asfnI nfl loVINdIaF votF pRfpq kIqIaF jf skdIaF hn.

iesleI Auh prmjIq isMG srnf ƒ kmytI dy aMiqRMg borz dIaF coxF krvfAux leI kih rhy hn. pr srnf vI coxF krvfAux df ‘Kqrf` muwl nhIN lYxf cfhuMdf. iesleI Ausny idwlI dI kFgrs srkfr ƒ ies gwl leI mnf ilaf hY ik idwlI gurduafrf kmytI aYkt ivwc soD krky pRDfn dI imafd 2 sfl kr idwqI jfey. pr bfdl aqy pMQk dl nfl sbMiDq afgU, aYkt ivwc soD hox qoN pihlF hI kmytI dy aMiqRMg borz dIaF coxF krvfAuxf cfhuMdy hn. iesleI buwDvfr ƒ AunHF ny gu: rkfb gMj sfihb ivKy idwlI kmytI dy dÌqr sfhmxy siQq pfrk ivwc iek Drnf dy ky prmjIq isMG srnf `qy dbfa pYdf krn dI nIqI apxfeI sI. ivroDI iDr dy mYNbrF nfl nijwTx leI srnf ny gurduafrf kMplYks ivwc puils dy bYrIkyz lgvf ky afpxI ‘surwiKaf` df ieMqËfm krvf ilaf sI.

buwDvfr dupihr lgBg 2 vjy, jd idwlI kmytI dI ivroDI iDr dy mYNbrF vwloN Aukq pfrk ivwc ivroD-pRdrÈn arMB hoieaf, qF ies mOky ho rhIaF qkrIrF dOrfn mYNbrF ivwc eynf ‘joÈ` af igaf ik Auh puils dy bYrIkyzF ƒ Dkyl ky, ËbrI kmytI dy dÌqr aMdr vVn leI dOV pey. srnf dI kiQq ‘tfsk Pors` vwloN kmytI dÌqr df gyt bMd kridaF-kridaF 2-3 mYNbr aqy smrQk, dÌqr aMdr dfÉl ho gey. tfsk Pors dy hiQafrbMd lokF ny kmytI mYNbrF ƒ qF koeI nuksfn nf pucfieaf pr AunHF dy smrQkF dI kfPI iptfeI kIqI geI. dUjy pfsy, dÌqr aMdr vV nf skx vfly mYNbr aqy AunHF dy smrQk bfhr hI rOlf-rwpf pfAuNdy rhy.

ies mOky, idwlI ngr ingm df iek sfbkf ingm pfrÈd, jo aijhy mOikaF ƒ Èohrq Kwtx vfsqy vrqx ivwc aiq mfihr smiJaf jFdf hY, ny afpxy qËrby dI muV vrqoN kIqI aqy mOky `qy mOjUd puils aiDkfrIaF ƒ bynqI kIqI ik ivroD-pRdrÈn kr rhy afgUaF ƒ igRPqfr krn leI puils dI bws mMgvf leI jfey. ies zRfmy qoN jldI rfhq pfAux leI puils aiDkfrI ny vI iek puils bws mMgvf leI aqy pRdrÈn kr rhy afgU PtfPt Aus srkfrI bws `qy ieAuN jf cVHy, ijvyN Auh ipkink mnfAux leI jf rhy hox. ienHF afgUaF Qfnf pfrlIafmYNt stRIt ivKy iljfieaf igaf, ijwQy kuJ srkfrI KfnfpUrqIaF AuprMq AunHF ƒ ‘irhfa` kr idwqf igaf.

ies qrHF, iswK afgUaF dI iek iDr ny afpxI guMzfigrI aqy dUjI iDr ny igRPqfr hoky afpxy mËlUmpuxy df nftk kr ilaf. pr idwlI dy cyqMn iswKF vwloN ies sfry Gtnf-kRm dI BrpUr inMdf kIqI jf rhI hY. ikAuNik AunHF df mMnxf hY ik iswK afgUaF vwloN cODr Kfiqr jnqwk qOr `qy afpsI lVfeIaF krn, gurduafrf kmytI dy pRbMD ivwc puilsIaf dÉlaMdfËI krvfAux, tfsk Pors dy nfm `qy lwTmfrF dI POj rfhIN guMzf-ibrqI df pRdrÈn krn aqy kOmI muwidaF ƒ Cwz ky kursI pRfpqI Kfiqr igRPqfrIaF dyx ijhIaF kfrvfeIaF nfl, gYr-iswKF ivwc iswK kOm hfsy df pfqr bxdI hY. idwlI dy buwDIjIvIaF vwloN idwlI kmytI dy sfry mYNbrF ƒ afpsI suihrdqf bxfeI rwKx aqy gurduafiraF ƒ cODr dy plytPfrm vjoN nf vrqx dI apIl kIqI jf rhI hY, qF jo afr[ aYs[ aYs[ aqy hor iswKI-ivroDI sMgTnF ƒ kOm ƒ nuksfn phuMcfAux dy hor mOky nf imlx.

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kihxy vfly keI kuC khI jFdy hn ijvyN lflf jgq nrfiex kihMdf huMdf sI- "kwC kVf ikRpfn, Byj idaFgy pfiksqfn" pr awj iBMzrF vfly nUM kFgrs df eyjMt kihx vfly Aus qoN keI guxF awgy inkl gey hn ijvyN "kC kVf ikRpfn lfh ky Byjo pfiksqfn" Bfv pRo[ drÈn isMG vFg nMigaF krky pqMdr QwlVf DV hI lfh ky lY gey. hux miraf swp pf lYx gl, asl ivwc dUijaF nUM swp kihx vfly ieh afp mry swp hn. ijvyN iBMzrF vfly nUM kihMdy sI kFgrs df eyjMt Eho hfl pRo[ drÈn isMG nfl kr rhy hn. kflf nIlf lFbf ienHF dI agvfeI kr irhf hY.

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ijvyN "pMcflI kAu rfj sBf mih rfm nfm suD afeI ievyN hI sMq ispfhI rsfly dy aYzItr sRI lFbf jI hurF nUM-pMc pRvfn pMc pRDfn] pMcf kf gur eyku iDafnu]" vfilaF gurmuKF dI sMgq krky vfihgurU rfm nfm dI suwD buwD af rhI hY. vfihgurU sB nUM sumwq bKÈy!

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