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vIrpfl isMG

Dear Prof Mahajan,

WJKK WJKF....

First I thought I should not answer your any question because among 7 questions raised by me you have not answered even one of them, You simply ignored all questions because now you don't have answer for them. Still I am going to answere your questions again because I don't need to run away from them and I have very valid explainations but before answering I will put few more points :-

1.It seems that Prof Saahab you are now totally confused in your own views and you have started contradicting yourself, As per you everything in this world is living thing then why does person dies. If person does not dies then how he is going to take next life as per you? If everything is living then what about dead bodies? What about example of Gurbaani which you take in all your letter where you mention that person dies and again takes Janam. In fact in gurbaani also Bhagats and Guru saahib mentions that every one has got fixed life and he has to die.

Sir, actually issue is that you see God as form of Energy while We see God as form of Love and emotion that is why Guru saahib also says that God can only be expreince by Love not by capturing his energy. Our God is form of love and he has got control of all the energy. Remember for us Love( GOD) controls energy not energy control love (GOD).

2. You have still not answered and again contradicted yourself:-

On one side you say that Atma is not field of science because it can't be measured and on other side you say Atma is energy. All know energy can be measured It has got units as well Joule and Calories. Now if Atma is Energy then how much atma you have 2KJ or 2 calorie. Atma can't be meausred and can't be defined, energy can be measured and defined still Atma is energy. Good Laws of physics. You are contradicting yourself now.

3. Do you now mean to say that only potential energy is living thing and other energies are non living thing, Prof Mahajan before answering this just to tell you Dead bodies also have potential energy so if potential energy is living thing then are Dead bodies also living thing. As per your formula if Dead body is kept at some height then will it not have gravitational potential energy.

4. Potential Energy Answer:-

I have already answeres your question in my provious post by placing wiki link :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence

It seems that you have not completely read the link, Still I am giving more explaination. This link clearly explains assocaition of Mass and Energy. Any body which has got energy will always have mass and any body which will have mass will always keep energy. Energy and Mass always stay together so how a body can have potential energy if it does not have mass. Potential energy is there in body it clearly shows that body has got mass otherwise there would have not potential energy. I touched Nuclear energy because Nucleus also has got Potential energy in it that it Nuclear potential energy and gave you examples of creation of matter as well.

Still to further clarify Now can you tell me one example where a body has mass but no energy or there is only energy and no mass. You just give me one example in this whole creation where Energy is there but there is no mass or Mass is there and it does not have energy. They always stay together and are equivalent that is what whole logic is and if you understood this then Potential Energy will also be answered.

Please don't take example of Light and radiation becasue Science has already prooved that Light and all raditaion have got particle behaviour as well, they have dual beahviour of particlle and wave.

5. Please don't run from the question of Swarg Nark by taking excuse of small mind. We all have small mind but with god's grace and hard work knowledge can be attained. If Swarag Nark are result of human actions on this earth only as per you then why does person gets result of same action in next life.

6.Please share your opinion clearly on Mant tu jot saroop hai apna mool pachan. I don't think so that this point is any way connected to Virus or Energy theory. This point is very independent and can be discussed. Also another importance of it is that this is not related to Science and all readers are not intrested in science. Man is always jot saroop, Man in illusion is not happy and not satified while Man not in illusion is happy you can take example of Lion's cub in with Cattle to understand.

7.One more issue in your Karam theory, Gurbaani generally references 84 Lakh species just to take example. Guru saahib never claimed that there are exaclty 84 lakh species. Since starting of world many species came and went away and also Science do not agree that there are 84 Lakh species. In fact exact number of species is not known but it is estimated to be some where around 30 Million to 50 Million.

8.Dramas and stories were not for you, they were created on request of Jasbeer Singh Jee for common man because every one is not intrested in technical specifications. If you didn't like you can ignore Dramas and stories I am not asking answer for them.

Sir, I am student which I mentioned earlier also and in India it is generally seen that Master jee gets irritated of students. Please don't get irritated of my questions or dramas and you know one thing if Master does not answers the questions then students say that Master is afraid of questions. Frankly speaking I know you are not among those Masters because i saw you replied to many people but now I don't know why you are contradicting yourself.

Thanks,

Veerpal Singh

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(13/08/08)
suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

vloN suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

guirMdr isMG brfV

afqmf iewk gorKDMdf nF hyT jyhVf qusI afrtIkl Cfipaf,  ieh afrtIkl hY jF mhfjn jIaF dI rj ky byiejqI krn dI quhfzI koJI cfl hY. ho skdf hY ky gurcrn isMG brfV horF ny quhfnUM ieh izAUtI sONpIN hovy. ikAuNik Auh vI brfV hn qy qsIN vI brfV ho. ikMnf Èrmnfk aMdfj hY quhfzf iksy guriswK leI byhwd GtIaf ÈbdfvlI vrqx df. asIN amrIkf ivwc ies afrtIkl nUM inMddy hF. afs krdy hF ky sfrI sMgq ies afrtIkl dI inMidaf kry qF jo BivwK ivwc koeI vI ieho ijhI ÈbdfvlI vrqx df hIaf nf kr sky. gurisKF df kMm huMdf hY hr iewk nUM gurisKI nfl joVnf,  ijhVf rfh qusI PiVaf hoieaf hY Aus nfl lok quhfzy nfl juVnoN qF dUr rhy hF tutxgy jrUr. iPr asIN rolf pfAuNdy hF ky zyry vfly ikAuN kfmXfb ho rhy hn. Auh iesy leI kfmXfb ho rhy hn ikAuNik asIN hr iewk nUM byiejq kr ky afpxy nfloN qoV rhy hF.

brfV sfihb mhfjn jI df ksUr kI hY. kI ieho ky jo gurbfxI ivwc hY Auh Aus nUM ien-ibn mMndy hn,  quhfzy vFgUM nhIN ky pihlF afpxy isDFq afpxy muqfibk GV lvo qy iPr gurbfxI nUM Ausdy anusfr arQ krn lgo.

mhfjn jIaF ny iewk rPrYNs idqf sI.

n jIAu mrY n zUbY qrY]   ijin ikCu kIaf so ikCu krY] hukmy afvY hukmy jfie] afgY pfCY hukim smfie] 2]

mhfn koÈ anusfr jIEu df arQ afqmf hY. ienHF arQF muqfibk mhfjn jI TIk hn qy qusI glq ho.

hF iewk gl hor qsIN mhfjn jIaF nUM kihaf hY ky AunHF qy bRhmf ivÈnUM mhyÈ dy tIky lgy hoey hn. qF disaf jy aj qoN 400 sfl pihlF quhfzy purvjF nUM ikhnf dy tIky lgdy huMdy sn?

suKdyv isMG

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(13/08/08)
kulivMdr isMG

s gurpRIq isMG smrf jI mhfrfj dy pwqr df Auqr

1. mYN qF soicaf sI ik smrf jI nUM akfl purK sumq dyxgy pr jfpdf hY ik BfeI gurdfs dI quk AunHF vfsqy hI ilKI geI hY: ‘mUrK mn smJfeIaY mn hT nf GwtY. ‘Auh myry ienHF lÌËF ‘asIN Aus nUM vI muafÌ nhIN krFgy’ df mfanf hI nhIN smJ sky. Èfied AunHF nUM pMjfbI nf afAuNdI hovy. aMgryË jIE, ies df mqlb ieh huMdf hY ik asIN Aus nUM vI Êlq afKFgy. kfÈ ik qusIN smJxf cfhuMdy huMdy.

2. qusIN Èbd NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) ËrUr jfxdy ho pr Zukf ky vyiKE ieh quhfzy qy hI lgdy hn. mYnUM qF qusIN iewk mfnisk bImfr jfpdy ho. Èfied quhfnUM schizophrenia df mslf hY.

3. cyqy rhy ik qusIN afp pihlI icTI ivwc iliKaf sI ik myrI icwTI dy Plfxy nukqy ivwc jvfb dyx vflI koeI gwl nhIN. kI AudoN qusIN Gangster cum Scholar sI?

4. kI ieh kihxf ik ‘pVHo quhfnUM hor igafn ho jfvygf’ ad hominem attacks hY. vIr jI quhfnUM mfnisk bImfrI jfpdI hY. gwl kro lVo nf qy Ìqvy nf idE.

5. qusIN qF ajy vI brnflf dy ihmfieqI jF hmdrd nËr afAuNdy ho.

6. kI `cfplUsI krdy ho’ kihxf juwqI-cwt Calls me a boot-licker kihxf huMdf hY? quhfzI ilMgUiesitk koeI nvIN qy Éfs jfpdI hY.

7. jd qusIN ‘gurU’ Èbd nUM ieMj vrqogy qF quhfzy qy Èwk pvygf hI. ieh afr[ aYs[ aYs[ hI ‘gurU’ nUM kdy bIar dI boql qy ilKdI hY qy kdy ‘sYks gurU’ Èbd dI vrqoN krdI hY. ‘gurU’ isrÌ 10 gurU sfihb qy guru gRMQ sfihb vfsqy vriqaf jf skdf hY. qusIN qF msKry bI[ jy[ pI[ aYm[ pI[ nvjoq iswDU (mYN Aus nUM isMG nhIN iliKaf ikAuNik Auh afpxy afp nUM nvjoq iswDU hI disaf krdf hY) vFg hr gwl qy hr iewk nUM ‘E gurU’ vrqdy ho. iPr qusIN afp dwso ik ‘gurU’ Èbd nUM ssqf krn vfly qusIN kOx ho.

8. jd kdy vI crcf hoieaf hY qusIN iewk dUjy nUM izPYNz krdy ho. ieh koeI mfVI gwl nhIN. gruwp qy isMzIkyt huMdy hI ny. ieh qF myrI abËrvyÈn hY. jy qusIN iewk grup nhIN qF nFh kr idE. ies nfl ikhVf Kqrf ho igaf hY quhfnUM.

9. qusIN Bgq kbIr jI df (ikqy qusIN ‘gurU kbIr nf ilKxf cfho) inMdf df slok iPr glq QF qy vrq rhy ho. Ërf gurbfxI smJo ik ieh iks vfsqy vriqaf igaf sI. pR: sfihb isMG df tIkf hI pVH lE jI.

10. ijQoN qk zf idlgIr df nukqf hY ik Aus ny (quhfzy ÈbdF ivc) afpxy ivcfr bdly hn glq hY. Aus ny aijhf nhIN kIqf. Aus ny qF drÈn isMG rfgI dy 1984 dy rol dI qfrIP kIqI hY qy 1987 dy rol dI aflocxf kIqI hY. ikqy qusIN idlgIr dy vI ivroDI qF nhIN. quhfzI ilKq qoN Èwk pYNdf hY. AuNj mYnUM Èwk hY quhfzf ‘gruwp’ Aus nfl Kfr KFdf hY ieh mYN do ku mhIny pihlF iewk crcf ivwc piVHaf sI.

11. surjIq rfm brnflf bfry qusIN ajy vI Ausy soc vfly ho ijhVf mYN Èwk kIqf sI. qusIN dwso ik krqfr isMG Jwbr, qyjf isMG Buwcr, mfstr moqf isMG qy hor sYNkVy iswK ijnHF ny krqfr isMG bydI (hflF ik Auh guru nfnk sfihb dI ibMdI kul coN sI) nUM krqfrU bydIn kihx df mqf pfs kiqf sI (qy hor keI iswKF dy nF ieMj ilKy sn) kI Auh gurbfxI dy Ault kr rhy sn? qusIN jF mYN qF AunHF dy pYrF dI DUV vI nhIN hF.

12. qusIN aKMz kIrqnI jQf qy tksfl (Èfied qusIN dmdmI tksfl kihxf cfhuMdy ho) vwloN lwqF nMgy rwKx qy vI duKI ho. kI quhfnUM knyzf ivwc CfqIaF qy lwqF nMgIaF kr ky inkldIaF aOrqF qoN qklIP nhIN? pihrfvf qF mn dI mOj hY. quhfnUM iewk nvIN qklIP hoeI hY, ieh Èwk glq nhIN ik qusIN peevish, negative, angry, over-reactive, aggressive narute dy bMdy ho. ‘gj sfzy qRY qRY DoqIaF[ [’ vflf Èbd vI qusIN glq vrq rhy ho. ieh tksfl jF jQf dy iswKF qy nhIN Zukdf. qusIN gurbfxI dI glq vrqoN kr ky Aus dI byadbI kr rhy ho.

13. hfsy dI gwl hY ik qusIN childish bickerings dI gwl krdy ho. childish bickerings qF qusIN kIqI hY. isK mfrg dy sPy waste kIqy hn.

14. gurpRIq isMG jI, muafÌ krnf quhfzI sfrI soc nÌI vflI hY. qusIN hr gwl iesy soc nfl krdy ho. quhfzf kflf aÌgfnf df izPYNs bxdf hI nhIN sI pr jy qusIN krnf sI qF isDFqk krdy, nf ik pyNzU ËnfnIaF vFg iswTxIaF dyx vflf. mYnUM lgdf sI ik qusIN pVHy ilKy ho pr hux ieh Brm jFdf irhf hY.

mYN cfhuMdf hF ik ies nUM ieQy hI bws kr idaF pr ies nUM ‘mYdfn coN Bwj jfxf’ nf smJ lYxf. mYN hr nukqy qy ivcfr krn vfsqy iqafr hF BfvyN Auh koeI vI hovy: quhfzy vrgf lVn vflf jF dlIl nfl gwl krn vflf krm isMG historIAn, kpUr isMG, idlgIr jF koeI hor.

kulivMdr isMG (iekwlf hI)

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(12/08/08)
pRo: qrlocn isMG mhfjn

vIr pfl jIE

gurU Piqh.

1[ vIr pfl jIE, qusF myrI gl df mqlB nhIN smJy. mYN quhfnUM ikhf sI ky ivigafn dI bihs krdy hoey asF ieh nhIN kihxf ÈurU kr dyxf ik ‘You mentioned that Science is based upon philosophy that every problem can be solved and has got solution. Please tell me if any of scientist has claimed that he is equal to God or if any one has claimed that he is special person and close to God’ kI ivigafnI rwb dy brfbr hn? aqy kI AunHF kol hr qrHF df Auqr hY?

2[ afqmf nUM smJx leI lIvINg qy nfn lIvINg dI quhfnUM smJ af cukI hY qF ikRpf krky hux ieh nf kho ik ajy ivigafn ny ies nUM hor klIar krnf hY. asl ivwc vfiers dy sbMD ivwc ivigafn cup hY. Auh ikvyN khy ky ieh lIvINg hY ikAuNik ies ivwc iksy qrHF df vfDf nhIN ho irhf. ies dIaF eImoÈn nhIN hn. ies nUM zÈIÈn lYx dI qfkq nhIN hY. pr ivigafn ies nUM nfn-lIvINg vI nhIN mMndf ikAuNik ies ivcoN jIvn dI ÈurUafq ho skdI hY. asl ivwc ies dunIaf ivwc kuwJ vI nfn ilivMg nhIN ikAuNik quhfzy vloN byjfn khIaF jfx vflIaF cIjF ivcoN hI jIvn iKViKVfAuNdf hY. qF iPr qusIN aYNnrjI nUM nfn-lIvINg iks aDfr qy kih skdy ho. bRihmMz dy kx kx ivwc Auh rimaf hoieaf hY Aus dI joiq hY Aus dI aYNnrjI hY Aus dI qfkq hY qy Auh qfkq iPr nfn lIvINg ikvyN ho skdI hY.

3[ vIr pfl jIE mYN quhfnUM puCdf kuwJ hor hF qusIN jvfb kuwJ hor idMdy ho. ikRpf krky rb dy vfsqy ieAuN nf kiraf kro. mYN quhfnUM klIar krn leI hI quhfnUM kuwJ puCdf hF. qusIN kihaf sI ik aYNnrjI mYtr ivwc qbdIl huMdI hY ieh afienstfeIn df Pfrmulf hY. TIk hY. mYN glq nhIN khFgf. pr mYN quhfnUM puiCaf sI ik kI gurUqf putYNisal aYnrjI pdfrQ ivwc bdl skdI hY. qusIN ies df jvfb nf idMdy hoey inAUklIar aYNnrjI vl iÈPt ho gey. ieh vIr jIE TIk nhIN hY. jvfb AuhI idE jo puiCaf jf irhf hY. kI ies sfrI dunIaf ivwc koeI gurUqf pUtYNisal aYNnrjI nUM mfdy ivwc qbdIl kr skdf hY. ikRpf krky iesy aYNnrjI dy sbMD ivwc Auqr dyxf, iPr quhfzy pRÈn df hl ho jfeygf. ieh mYN quhfnUM ivÈvfÈ duafAuNdf hF. qusIN aMq ivwc lokF nUM smJfAux vfsqy jo zrfmf iliKaf hY Aus df mYN bhuq sohxf jvfb dy skdf hF. pr ajy ieMqjfr kro. ikRpf krky pihlF ienHF do pRÈnF dy Auqr idE jI

kI gurUqf putYNisal aYnrjI pdfrQ ivwc bdl skdI hY?

kI ies sfrI dunIaf ivwc gurUqf pUtYNisal aYNnrjI nUM mfdy ivwc qbdIl krn vflI koeI mÈIn hY?

iksy hor aYnrjI bfry nf dsxf ÈurU kr dyxf. ikRpf krky koeI hor zrfmf nf iliKE. isrP qy isrP Auprly do pRÈnf df Auqr idAu jI. dunIaf dIaF sfrIaF sfeItF jrUr cYk kr lYxF jI. jd qk ieh do svflF dy jvfb nhIN afAuNdy, mYN agy nhIN cl skdf.

qrlocn isMG

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ieh afqmf vflf gorK DMdf --- guirMdr isMG brfV

quhfzf lyK piVHaf. mYN soicaf sI ik clo cMgf hoieaf koeI afrtIkl afqmf dy ivÈy ivwc pVHn nUM imilaf. jdoN afrtIkl Koilaf myrI KuÈI dI koeI hwd nf rhI ik ieh afrtIkl qF isrP myry leI hI iliKaf igaf hY. pfTkF nUM snimr bynqI hY ik Auh afrtIkl jrUr pVHn qF ik sB nUM pqf cl sky ky iewk jwt ny ies inmfxy nUM ikMnIaF izgrIaF bKiÈÈ kIqIaF hn. myrI Ausqiq ivwc qusF bhuq kuwJ iliKaf cMgf ligaf. ik mYN nfrd munI hF. mYN pMzq hF. mYN ikRÈn nUM mMnx vflf hF. mYN dyvIaF nUM mMndf hF. bRhmf ivÈnUM mhyÈ dy mYNnUM tIky lgy hoey hn. mYN ihMdUqqv df pRcfr kr irhf hF ieq afid. mYN ies sbMD ivwc isrP ienHf kihxf cfhFgf, vfihgurU jfxI jfx hn ik mYN kI hF jF qusIN kI ho.

qrlocn isMG

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gurcrn isMG jI

drasl mYN quhfizaF icTIaF pV pV ky Ausy rvfngI ivwc quhfzy leI Èbd ilK idqy, jo mYN mihsUs krdf hF ik Gto Gt mYNnUM qF ilKxy nhIN sn cfhIdy. qusIN BfvyN jo vI ilKo mYNnUM nfrdmunI dso jF kuwJ hor. pr mYNnUM iPr vI iewk gurisK df siqkfr krnf cfhIdf hY. byÈk quhfzy aqy myry iKafl nhIN imldy. aOr qusI jo idl kry mYnUM koVf bolo jI afieaF bolo, ikAuNik ieh hux quhfzf suBfaf bx cukf hY. ies nUM bdilaf nhIN jf skdf. mYN aMq muafPI mMgdf hF jy myry qoN quhfzI ÈKsIaq dy iKlfP kuwJ apÈbd ilKy gey hox. ieh muafPI mYN quhfzy qoN zr ky nhIN mMg irhf. blik ies leI ik ies df ihsfb ikqfb mYNnUM drgh ivwc afpxy vfihgurU ipqf nUM dyxf pvygf. ies leI BulF cukF dI muafPI dyxf jI

qrlocn isMG

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iekvfk isMG pwtI

ÃÄ vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih]

siqkfrXog srdfr sfihb s[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jIAu

aqy iswK mfrg dy smUh pfTk aqy ivdvfn swjxoN

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf]

vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

sB qoN pihlF afp jI df hr nfnk nfm lyvf vwloN DMnvfd jo afp jI iswK mfrg vYWb sfiet rfhIN gurU nfnk sfihb jI dI pivwqr vIcfrDfrf nUM sMsfr ivwc lY ky jfx leI ivÈyÈ kMm kr rhy ho. akfl purK afp jI nUM cVHdI klf bKÈy. dUsrf afp jI ny myry vrgy nfcIË dy sIimq ijhI buwDI nfl ilKy lyKF, vIcfrF nUM QF idwqI, ies leI vI afp jI df Èukr gujfr hF. dUsrf mYN muafPI mMgxI cfhuMdf hF ik bIqy idnIN hI dfsry df iewk lyK "iswK Drm qy anmqI iqAuhfrF df glbf "rwKVI qy ivÈyÈ" spqfihk lyKF ivwc Èfiml kIqf igaf hY. ijs ivwc myry koloN afKrI pihry ivwc iewk glqI kridaF bfby nfnk jI dI rwKVI vflI pRcilwq qsvIr dI gwl kridaF hoieaF byby nfnkI jI df nfm ilKx dI jgHf bIbI BfnI jI iliKaf igaf hY. ijsdI mYN iswK mfrg dy sfry pfTkF qoN muafPI cfhuMdf hF aqy bynqI vI krdf hF ik AuQy bIbI nfnkI jI hI piVHaf jfvy. AumId krdf hF ik afp jI afpxy ies Coty bwcy koloN axjfxy ivwc hoeI Bul dI iKmF kr idAugy.

DMnvfd:

afp jI df Cotf vIr,

iekvfk isMG pwtI

joD ngr, sulqfnivMz roz,

aMimRqsr. mo[ 098150-24920

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(12/08/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Kulwinder Singh in this letter has now added new medal to his wonderful profile. Along with being a Gangster, who threatens people (asIN Aus nUM vI muafÌ nhIN krFgy.), he now declare himself as a scholar. In his letters he accuses Kalaafghana of heaping self praise on himself (he has at least done some work and is in fact considered a scholar), but in this letter he crosses all the limits of heaping self praises that he appears to be a Narcissist and seems like, he is suffering from NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). At some places he acts as all powerful being who can punish and forgive anyone and at other places he declares himself a scholar by telling others that they are not as intelligent as he is.

In this letter too he continues with his Ad hominem crusade against different people. Someone has rightly said "Old habits can not be broken". For the sake of clarity let me enumerate his Narcissism and Ad hominem attacks for the readers to judge for themselves. I will then address his points.

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

1. He tries to tell people that he is a big scholar and I am no match for him (Gangster cum Scholar) :

   "quhfzy pihly cfr pYiraF ivwc jvfb dyx vfsqy koeI gwl nhIN aYvyN QF hI kflI kIqI hoeI hY."

2. He then tells me that he is a real Sikh Historian and questions me :

   "kI qusIN iswK ieiqhfs piVHaf hY?

3. Then in an over enthusiastic mode he rejects a genuine question and says :

   "Auprly dovyN pYry ivwc koeI svfl nhIN bxdf."

4. Then he tells that he is the only Gurbani scholar and tells me that I don’t have understanding of Gurbani:

   "qusIN ijnHF qukF dy gurbfxI ivcoN hvfly idwqy hn AunHF ivcoN koeI vI ZukvIN nhIN hY. iksy gurU ny gMgf nUM afpxy hwk ivwc nhIN vriqaf. Auh hvfly gMgf nUM rwd krn vfsqy hn nf ik Aus nUM pRoVHqf vjoN vrqx vfsqy. vYsy mYnUM BulyKf sI ik qusIN gurbfxI smJdy ho."

5. Then he tries to portray that he has read many books as though he holds some sort of world record in reading books and advises me to read books to gain knowledge:

   "qusIN AuNj qF idlgIr jI dI akfl qÉq bfry purfxI ikqfb ivcoN hvfly idwqy hn pr qusIN nhIN piVHaf ik Aus ny 2005 ivwc ies dI soDI ayzIÈn ivwc kI iliKaf sI.---- Ërf pVHo qF AuhfnUM hor igafn ho jfvygf."

6. He again acts as a Gurbani scholar and lecturer and tells me :

   "bfxI df ieh hvflf vI glq hY. ies dy arQ pRo sfihb isMG ivcoN hI pVH ky vyKo Ërf. plIË kuwJ piVHaf kro."

7. Again preaches me :

"Ërf pVHo qF AuhfnUM hor igafn ho jfvygf."

Ad hominem attacks in Kulwinder Singh’s letter:

1. Again distorts the name of a person who has nothing to do with this correspondence:

   "quhfzy ies pYry qoN hYrfnI hoeI hY ik qusIN surjIq ‘rfm’ brnflf dy hmdrd ho."

2. Uses his name calling technique on me:

   "hF ho skdf hY ik inrMkfrIaF df hmdrd, iswKF df kfql, drbfr sfihb dI byadbI krn vflf surjIq brnflf quhfzf irÈqydfr hovy."

3. Calls me a boot-licker:

   "qusIN ibnf jfixEN ayvyN cfplUsI ihq hI ilK rhy ho."

4. Calls me stupid and illiterate:

   "mUrKqf dI vI hwd huMdI hY.----- ikMny ‘anpVH soc vfly’ jfpdy ho." And

   "pr plIË afpxI ies stupidity dI numfieÈ qF nf kro. ies nUM afpxy afp qk rKo."

5. Indirectly hints that I am an agent of RSS:

   "nfly afr[ aYs[ aYs[ vFg ‘gurU’ lPË nUM eynf ssqf bxf rhy ho. vyKxf ikqy quhfzI nIaq qy Èwk nf ho jfvy iksy nUM."

6. Unnecessarily names and drags honorable people who has no relation with this issue or correspondence:

   "‘iswK mfrg’ ivwc vI iewk cult hY. ies ivwc qusIN, gurÈrn isMG ksyl, gurcrn isMG ijAUxvflf qy kuwJ bynfm vI hn jo hmyÈf iewk dUjy vfsqy ilKdy rihMdy ho."

7. Accuses editor of favoritism though I don’t know him at all (I write as per the limited knowledge bestowed to me by the God but never calls anyone for any favor, and I do get emotionally involved in any case when I see that injustice is being done towards any particular person and that’s my drawback and I do know Kasel and Jeonwala personally as they live in the same city):

"pr jy quhfzy sfQI s[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI Cfpxf cfhux qF"

Now I will address the issues raised by him. For his Ad hominem attacks specially directed towards me and some other people, I would like to quote :

"inMdAu inMdAu mo kAu logu inMdAu ] inMdf jn kAu KrI ipafrI ] inMdf bfpu inMdf mhqfrI ]1] rhfAu ] inMdf hoie q bYkuMiT jfeIaY ] nfmu pdfrQu mnih bsfeIaY ] irdY suD jAu inMdf hoie ] hmry kpry inMdku Doie ]1] inMdf krY su hmrf mIqu ] inMdk mfih hmfrf cIqu ] inMdku so jo inMdf horY ] hmrf jIvnu inMdku lorY ]2] inMdf hmrI pRym ipafru ] inMdf hmrf krY AuDfru ] jn kbIr kAu inMdf sfru ] inMdku zUbf hm Auqry pfir ]3]20]71] {pMnf 339}

Regarding me being "stupid, ignorant, illiterate et al", I agree that I am not as big a scholar as he is and I am learning everyday and I have never claimed that I understand Gurbani:

"bfbf mY kucIlu kfcAu miqhIn ] {pMnf 1010}"

Regarding Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer as the ultimate authority. I don’t consider anyone an authority on anything. I don’t know if he has backtracked from his views on Ragi Darshan Singh in his new book. I will try to get hold of it and then comment on it. But if he has done so, then it is a case of intellectual dishonesty and Intellectual dishonesty is worse then crime. As I have said in my earlier reply I will not quote what he has written about Ragi Darshan Singh in his book because I don’t want to indulge in character assassination.(I am using "Ragi" because Dr. Dilgeer uses Ragi throughout in his book and that too in a sarcastic manner).

Regarding Akal Takht, my views are crystal clear on this. A building of stone and brick can never be Akal Takht as it is against the teachings of Gurbani. Guru Nanak clearly says :

"eyko qKqu eyko pfiqsfhu ] srbI QfeI vyprvfhu ] iqs kf kIaf iqRBvx sfru ] Ehu agmu agocru eykMkfru ]5] {pMnf 1188}"

Please go through the meanings of Prof. Sahib Singh.

Now I will repeat again my question :

Is changing the name of Surjit Singh Barnala to Surjit Ram Barnala, Gurmat? Or Bravery?

If it is Gurmat please quote the appropriate Sabad from Gurbani as you have claimed yourself that you are a Gurbani scholar so that I can learn from you.

And what kind of flawed logic is this:

"kI qusIN iswK ieiqhfs piVHaf hY? mhMq nrYx dfs ‘nrYxU’ hY, 1920 ivwc akfl qÉq df gRMQI bUV isMG ‘bUVI’ qy 1921 ivwc krqfr isMG bydI mhMqF dI ihmfieq kfr ‘krqfrU bydIn’ hY (vyKo: iswK nfnkfxf sflf mgroN aÉbfrF ivwc Aus nUM kI ilKdy sn). iswKF ny inrMkfrI gurbcn nUM gurbcnf iliKaf sI qy ilKdy hn. hF ho skdf hY ik inrMkfrIaF df hmdrd, iswKF df kfql, drbfr sfihb dI byadbI krn vflf surjIq brnflf quhfzf irÈqydfr hovy."

For the clarity of readers I will explain that Kulwinder Singh is trying to say that if large number of people do wrong deeds then he is also right in doing so. By this logic he will tomorrow say that since large number of Sikhs say that Dasam Granth is written by Guru Gobind Singh, so it is written by Guru Gobind Singh.

The answer to his flawed logic is given by French author Anatole France in just one line:

"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."

Then he says that since I said that distorting Barnala’s name is wrong so I am Surjit Singh Barnala’s relative. By that logic if I object to someone distorting Kulwinder Singh’s name I will become gangster, extortionist, kidnapper or killer who threatens people with dire consequences: asIN Aus nUM vI muafÌ nhIN krFgy.

Regarding the Drama of Black Dress I am right in quoting that Sabad. It refers to the hypocrisy of outward appearance (bfhir ByK) . There are many other Sabads that condemns this Drama of outward appearance. Eg.

"krqUiq psU kI mfns jfiq ] lok pcfrf krY idnu rfiq ] bfhir ByK aMqir mlu mfieaf ] Cpis nfih kCu krY Cpfieaf ] bfhir igafn iDafn iesnfn ] aMqir ibafpY loBu suafnu ] aMqir agin bfhir qnu suafh ] gil pfQr kYsy qrY aQfh ] jf kY aMqir bsY pRBu afip ] nfnk qy jn shij smfiq ]5] {pMnf 267}"

In Jap ji sahib itself Guru Nanak condemns this hypocrisy of outward appearance:

haThis is applicable to Sikhs as Jogi or Yogi are not reading Gurbani. It is equally applicable to Taksali and Akhand Kirtaniye with naked legs.

"gj sfZy qY qY DoqIaf iqhry pfiein qg ] glI ijnHHf jpmflIaf loty hiQ inbg ] Eie hir ky sMq n afKIaih bfnfris ky Tg ]1]"{pMnf 476}

Now Pandit and Brahmans are not reading Gurbani, so to whom does it apply? It applies to the Drama of making an outward appearance.

Regarding Ganga , and Jathedar I will not comment as to what Kalaafghana’s views are on it but it exposes your ignorance to the readers, that’s what I believe, I can be wrong as you are a self proclaimed scholar.

To all the readers and Editor, my last words : this is my last reply to Kulwinder Singh as I don’t want to drag Prof. Darshan Singh in this name calling games. My purpose was to expose the childish bickerings of Kulwinder Singh which he himself exposed by replying again in his usual manner. Also I am no match to Kulwinder Singh’s knowledge and wisdom so I don’t want to waste my time with the unmatched intelligence of Kulwinder Singh. As a result I think it is better for me to follow the advice of Kabir Saab:

JJf AuriJ suriJ nhI jfnf ] rihE JJik nfhI prvfnf ] kq JiK JiK aAurn smJfvf ] Jgru kIey JgrAu hI pfvf ]15] {pMnf 341}

ijs mnuwK ny (crcf afidk ivc pY ky inkMmIaF) AulJxF ivc Psxf hI iswiKaf, AulJxF ivcoN inklx dI jfc nfh iswKI, Auh (sfrI Aumr) shMisaF ivc hI ipaf irhf, (Aus df jIvn) kbUl nfh ho sikaf . bihsF kr kr ky hornF ƒ mwqF dyx df kIh lfB? crcf kridaF afp ƒ qF inrI crcf krn dI hI vfdI pY geI

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(12/08/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Respected contributors and readers of www.sikhmarg.com;

Kindly refer to a copy of letter dated 28 May 2008 and shared on Sikh Marg on 9 August 2008 as well as Article: "Sikh Noo Kis Granth Naal Jurnaa Chahieeda Hai?" by S. Dalbir Singh, Faridabad (India).

In Stanza 17 of Japp Jee Sahib, Guru Nanak Sahib refers to -   "Asankh Granth Mukh Ved Paath"...

Though its English Translation would vary from person to person, I wish to say that countless are the holy-books, and countless the reciters of Veda....

But before breathing his last on 7 October 1708, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib had ordained all the Sikhs to accept and obey the Guru Granth Sahib as their Guru all the times to come. In addition to Baani of Bhagats, Bhatts and other Devotee Sikhs, entire Baani is uttered in the Name of "Nanak", which has already been included in the Guru Granth Sahib under (31) different Raags and under Mahla 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 9. There is thus no Baani under Mahla 6, 7, 8 and 10 but all are our Gurus Sahibaan - representing one and the same Divine Enlightenment.

Since then, all the Sikhs Globally have been following Gurbaani contained therein. Thus Sikhs need not wander around in search of other countless Granths. The Sikh Diaspora should not listen to misleading propaganda led by akj, damdami taksaal, deravaad, editor sant- sipahi and his close associated paid persons.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(11/08/08)
mihMdr isMG

vIr gurcrn isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh ]

ieh myrI afp nUM ies toipk qy afKrI icwTI hY.

agr qusI myrI pihlI icwTI iDafn nfl pVI huMdI qF quhfnUM km-sy-km ies gwl df iehsfs qy jrUr hoxf sI ik svfl BFvy myrf ijMnf mrjLI bckfnf sI lyikn icwTI mYN afp nUM bVy afdr Bfv nfl ilwKI sI. icwTI df iek vI sLbd aYsf nhI sI ik ijs nfl afp dI sLfn ‘c iksI qrHF dI vI gusLqfKI huMdI hovY.

iesdy bfvjLUd qusF ny jo jvfb idwqf Auh ieMJ lwg rhf sI ijs qrHF ieh jvfb iksI gurmuwK ipafry vwlo nhI sgHON iksI itwcrF krn vfly vwloN afieaf hovy. aYsI sLbdfvlI afpdI ajy qwk jfrI hY.

sfnUM qy ieh isKfieaf igaf hY ik No question is a bad question.

so svfl ijMnf mrjLI simple hovy puC lE. afp nUM vwzy vIr jfx ky svfl kIqf sI lyikn mYnUM kI pqf sI ik ieh svfl mYN iksI Ausqfd, pMizq jF Auc kotI dy ivdvfn nUM krn jF rhf hF jo myry sDfrn ijhy svfl qy bhuq KLPLf ho jfeygf.

You wrote:

“gurU igafn pRfpq krnf ieqnf asfn nhIN qy imhnq vI afp krnI pYNdI hY. igafn pRfpq qusI krnf hovy qy imhnq gurcrn isMG kry ieh nhI ho skdf. jy kr qusI myrIaF iqMn jf cfr icwTIaF Kohl ky pVH nhI skdy qF mYnUM ienHF nUM kwt-pyst kry Qfl ivc pros ky quhfzy mUhry rwKx dI loV nhI”.

ieQy mYN afp nfl sihmq hF ik imhnq afp krnI cfihdI hY qy mYN apxI glqI mMndf hF ik mYnUM afp dIaF do-cfr ipwClIaF icwTIaf pVH lYxIaF cfihdIaF sI. pr quhfzI icwTI dI imwTI bolI ny mYnUM hor hI kMm krn vwl lf idwqf.

You asked:

gurbfxI df rwb kI hY?

gurbfxI df rwb hY (ÃÄ) qy AusdI ( Ä ) kfr ivwc horxf KMzF-bRhmMzf dy nfl-nfl qusI qy mYN afpo afpxy computer qy bYT ky icwTIaF ilKdy hF. gurbfxI ivwc Aus hsqI leI sLbd vrqy gey ny “akfl-purKu’ jF ‘vfihgurU’. lyikn gurbfxI df rwb hY: ÃÄ

bfkI Ausy hsqI dy rwbI gux ies qrHF ny.

siqnfmu krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]

gurU gRMQ sfihb dI sfrI dI sfrI bfxI ieMnf guxf qo bfhr nhI qy rwb dI pRIBfsLf (1) qo bfhr nhI.

sfihbu myrf eyko hY] eyko hY BfeI eyko hY]

quhfzf rwb vI ieho hI hY ik koeI hor hY?

mYnUM nhI lgdf ik qusI vIr BuipMdr isMG jI df lecture “imwT bolVf” ajy suixaf hY. agr kdI time iml jfey qF nfl dI nfl iek hor lecture vI jrUr sunxf, Ausdf title hY “kRoD”.

You wrote:

“eyqy kUkr hAu bygfnf BAukf iesu qn qfeI ] Bgiq hIxu nfnku jy hoiegf qf KsmY nfAu n jfeI ]4]1] ienHF pMgqIaF df mqlb ieh hY ik jy mnuwK mfVy kMm krdf hY qF dosL prmfqmf dy isr nhI miVHaf jf skdf”.

ieh arQ bndy nhI ienHF pMgqIaF dy jo qusI kIqy ny. ieh pMgqIaF qusI afpxI mnH dI BVfs kwZx leI vrqIaF ny qy ieh quhfnUM vI pqf hY. myry iKafl nfl qusI iek vfr www.GuruGranthDarpan.com qy jf ik sfry sLbd dy arQ dubfrf pVHo. hF pMnf hY 795.

afKIr ivwc. ies toipk qy ivcfr mYN ieQy hI bMd krnI cfhuMdf hF ikAuNik pfxI ivwc mDfxI pfx df Pfiedf koeI nhIN. ies ivcfr ivwcoN kuJ nhIN inklxf.

qusI ies icwTI dy jvfb ivwc ilK skdy jy lyikn agr koeI svfl krogy qF mYN jvfb nhIN dyvFgF ikAuik myry vwlo ieh topic ieQy hI Kqm.

inmrqf, hlImI qy grIbIpnH ivdvfnf dy jIvn dy muZly isDFq hoxy cfihdy ny qF jo afm afdmI koeI vI svfl krn dI jurwaq kr sky.

6 agsq 2008 dI Kbr sI rozanaspokesman.com qy ik, “jdo 84 dIaF pIVq ivDvfvF vydFqI nUM imlx leI akfl qKLq qy geIaF qF vydFqI ny AunHF nUM PwPykutxIaF kih ky Auhnf dI gwl suxn qoN hI ienkfr kr idwqf”

quhfzI aYsI bolI, aYsIaF itcrF, quhfnUM vI ikqy vydFqI vrgy ivdvfnF dI kqfr ‘c nf KVyH kr dyx.

vfihgurU jI kf KLflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

mihMdr isMG

rocYwstr, inAU Xfrk

585-503-5328

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(11/08/08)
vIrpfl isMG

Dear Prof Mahajan,

WJKK WJKF..

1. That is really not fair if I ask you definition of Atma then it is violation of laws of basic science and if you play with definition of Living and Non Living Things then it is all right, You want to have absolute definition and demarkation line while in this whole world and you can't find anything absolute, leave the definiton of Living thing even you can find out some exception in dfinition of basic things.

2. On one side you say that Atma is not field of science because it can't be measured and on other side you say Atma is energy. All know energy can be measured It has got units as well Joule and Calories. Now if Atma is Energy then how much atma you have 2KJ or 2 calorie. Atma can't be meausred and can't be defined, energy can be measured and defined still Atma is energy. Good Laws of physics. You are contradicting yourself now.

3. Agreed that Microbilogy has not taken firm decesion on Virus but it does not means that things are over, They are still studying it just like Plants at a time people used to consider as non living but JC bose find out the process in them as well. Definiton of Living non living things may not be strong enough to do resolutin of Virus but It is string enough to say that Energy is non living.

Firstly Virus have not got any comparison with Energy and still Virus atleast show some behaviour but there is no example where energy itself is taking decesion and expressing emotion.

4. I think you are not aware of recent developments and experiments , Energy can be converted to Matter, This happens in nuclear reactions, particle accelararots and when cosmic rays hit in atmosphere. Please check creation of positron and how it is done. Please see below links for more details :-

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070915082919AAFoM74

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00101.htm

I hope now you will not say that Einstein's law is incorrect.

5. Please don't run from the question of Swarg Nark by taking excuse of small mind. We all have small mind but with god's grace and hard work knowledge can be attained. If Swarag Nark are result of human actions on this earth only as per you then why does person gets result of same action in next life.

6. Please share your opinion clearly on Mant tu jot saroop hai apna mool pachan. I don't think so that this point is any way connected to Virus or Energy theory. This point is very independent and can be discussed. Also another importance of it is that this is not related to Science and all readers are not intrested in science.

7. One more issue in your Karam theory, Gurbaani generally references 84 Lakh species just to take example. Guru saahib never claimed that there are exaclty 84 lakh species. Since starting of world many species came and went away and also Science do n ot agree that there are 84 Lakh species. In fact exact number of species is not known but it is estimated to be some where around 30 Million to 50 Million.

8. Jasbir Singh Jee Australia- I agree with you totaly that all readers are not inrested in scientific explainations and after all as per gurbaani also to become a gurmukh and good human it is not necessary for a person to be science expert. But yes this question is of attitude now. A gurmukh person may or may not be great scientist but yes his attitude will always be scientific, logical and rational.

Now I am trying to explain Atma and energy in layman language so that common reader can also understand, as per Prof Mahajan Atma is energy and energy is living thing,while I think Atma reperesent living thing and Energy is non living now please notice below points and stories :

a . Jeet throws stone on Plants and break flowers in garden, Mother shouted Jeet puttar you should not do this Plants have got life , they also get hurted you should not break them unnecessarily. Jeet switches off the Light in room, Mother again shouts Jeet don't switch off the light becasue Light energy is living thing and it will get hurted why are you switching it off. (Jeet's mother has studied Physics in some different school)

b. Kamal abuses his classmate Raj, Mother says you should not do like this. Tu Raj dee Atma dukhai hai. Raj has got emotions.

Kamal swithces of burner of gas. Mother shouts again Kamal you should not do like this tune Heat energy dee Atma dukhai hai, Heat noo bura lagya hona hai, kyon band kitti gas. (Kamal's mother has also studied Physics in different school)

c. Ranjha love heer alot and can die for her. Sound also loves Heat alot and can die for Heat. All are invited in marraige of Sound and Heat. probably Sound and Heat will have sex and give birth to Light. I am not sure who is male , female or they have same sex probably some physics expert may know this.

d. Lion was hungry and hunted Deer. Light energy was hungry and hunted sound.

Thanks,

Veerpal Singh

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(11/08/08)
zf: jiqMdr isMG aqy ircIpfl isMG

Fateh veer jee,
Dear Mohinder Singh jee

Fateh parwaan

If I understand your question correctly, you are concerned that if God is 'nirvair', then a child who dies at birth, will not be given any chance to unite w/ God Almighty?

There are several thoughts in my mind, as to how to answer your query, let me try.

A simple way to understand this is that 'living by the laws of nature' is union w/ God. So if the new born dies after birth OR is born dead, for any reason or miscalculation by the doctors, parents, accidental, i.e. for no fault of the 'new being'; all this happens 'within the laws of nature', so the happening is governed by the 'laws of nature' or 'the will of GOD', this is unity w/ God.

Just to give you an analogy of the above, for e.g. if a thousand 'chapatis' are to be made in the langar service, many of the chapatis that are not cooked at all or are undercooked, these chapatis are discarded. Now the chapatis are not at all at fault, but these chapatis remained undercooked because the chemical & physical laws that are responsible for the appropriate & adequate 'cooking' were not followed. Now if the cook had been extremely careful, most of the chapatis could be made in the correct fashion.

Combining the above two scenarios, Satgur g showers us w/ 'Gur', i.e. the technique to deliver best results. The doctors have to provide good care, the mother has to follow strict guidelines, so that the child is born in a healthy environment.

Another way to approach your question:

Guru Nanak's philosophy is that to unite w/ God, we don't have to do anything. We just have to keep our conscience 'virgin' / clear, unadulterated by 'manmat'. This is the concept of 'complete surrender' to Gurmat, where the 'ego' accepts the 'gurparshad'.

Now the new born child bears a clear conscience, that is not contaminated by the 'manmat'. That is why we equate a child with 'rab da roop'.

Your question has risen, because you believe that to unite w/ God we 'need to do something', & the dead new born did not have the oportunity ' to do something'.

We can talk more, call be at 201 689 0606 / 0605

Dr. Jatinder Singh
Richipal Singh

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(11/08/08)
qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

9888169226

pitaflf.

jdoN dhfVF mfrn vflf Èyr gurcrn isMG afrtIkl dy hYizMg qoN ziraf, pitaf phfV qy iniklaf cUhf

sMq Èyr gurcrn isMG jI mhfrfj jrHf afrtIkl ‘kI dunIaf 21 dsMbr 2012 nUM Kqm ho jfeygI?’ nfl ligaf kI awKr qy ipCy pfieaf? qF pVH lYxf sI. ieh ikqy nhIN kihaf igaf ky dunIaf Kqm ho jfeygI. pUry afrtIkl ivwc jy lPj dI vrqoN kIqI geI hY. jy cuMbkI Kyqr alop hoieaf qF ieMj ho jfeygf. aOr qusIN afrtIkl dy aKIr ivwc gurbfxI df PYslf pVHn qoN bgYr hI zrn lg gey ies dI mYNnUM afs nhIN sI.

afrtIkl dy aKIr qoN:

ieh nvIN pRBfq kdoN hovygI. kI 2012 nUM? . nhIN, kuwJ nhIN kihaf jf skdf. ikAuNik jo rcnhfr hY Auho hI ieh jfx skdf hY.

jy iÈRÈtI dI rcnf kdoN hoeI Aus bfry kuwJ nhIN kihaf jf skdf qF iPr ieh Kqm kdoN hoeygI Aus bfry vI kuwJ nhIN kihaf jf skdf. ieh TIk hY Bfxf vrqygf jrUr, pr gurbfxI anusfr ieh disaf nhIN jf skdf, kdoN? .

vyl n pfeIaf pMzqI, ij hovy lyKu purfxu]

vKqu n pfieE kfdIaf, ij ilKin lyKu kurfxu]

iQiq vfru n jogI jfxY, ruiq mfhu n koeI]

jf krqf isrTI kAu sfjy, afpy jfxY soeI]

pRmfqmf dy BydF nUM smJ skxf mnuwK dI phuMc qoN pry hY.

koie n jfnY qumrf aMqu] AUcy qy AUcf BgvMq] sgl smgRI qumrY sUiqR DfrI] qum qy hoie su afigafkfrI] qumrI giq imiq qum hI jfnI] nfnk dfs sdf kurbfnI] 8] 4] {pMnf 268}

 

ikafskfrIaF kIqIaF jf skdIaF hn ivigafink hvfly idqy jf skdy hn pr vfihgurU dy BydF nUM jfixaf nhIN jf skdf. ies leI zrn do loV nhIN ky dunIaf Kqm ho jfeygI. afrtIkl ilKx df mqlB isrP qy isrP jfxkfrI muheIaf krvfxI sI ky asl ivwc ieh sB rolf kI hY, nf ky myrf mksd quhfnUM zrfAuxf sI.

isMG qF Èyr huMdy hn. Auh mOq nUM afpUM llkfrdy hn. jo zr igaf so mr igaf. zr qF isMGF dy nyVy-qyVy vI nhIN Zukdf. ijnHF isMGF nUM vjIr KF jkrIaf KF aOrMgjyb vrgy mugly nhIN zrf sky, AunHF isMGF nUM ieh inkf ijhf hYizMg zrf deygf, ieh ikafs vI nhIN kIqf jf skdf. gurcrn isMG jI zrn qoN pihlF Xfd kro Aus idRÈ nUM jdoN isMGF dy isr nyijaF qy tMgy hoey sn. Kuly kys hvf ivwc lihrf rhy sn. bMdf isMG bhfdr ijs nUM ipMjry ivwc slfKF dIaF iqKIaF cobF Qwly nUiVaf hoieaf sI. Aus bMdy dy cyhry qy zr qy jrf ijnI vf nfmo inÈfn nhIN sI. ieho ijhy bMdy dy qusIN vfrs ho qF iPr jrf ijhy afrtIkl dy hYizMg qoN hI zr gey. pVH ky byhwd aPsos hoieaf.

mYnUM iesy sbMD ivwc iewk vfikaf Xfd af irhf hY. sfzy nyVy iewk iblizMg hY. ijs dI dUjI mMijl qy imstr jYqlI jI df Gr sI. Auh vI quhfzy vfgUM bVIaF zIgF mfrdy rihMdy hn. iewk idn pqf nhIN ikvyN AunHF dy Gr awg lg geI. jldI hI awg qy kfbU pf ilaf igaf. Auh doVy-doVy sfzy kol afey. mfrn lgy zIgF. jYqlI jI anusfr ‘vyKo iewk qusI ho aYvyN PokV, qy iewk mYN hF Èyr, myry Gr nUM jdoN awg lgI qF mYN cfh pI irhf sI. mYN arfm nfl cfh pIqI. kmIj pfeI. tfeI lgfeI. ÈIÈf vyiKaf. vfl TIk kIqy. pVIaF qoN Auqiraf. aOr vyKo Ps klfs mYN quhfzy sfhmxy KVHf hF. hY koeI zr df iÈkn vI myry cyhry qy. Aus dIaF glF sux ky sfnUM hfsf af igaf. asIN kihaf jYqlI jI jo qusIN kih rhy ho sB TIk hY pr quhfzy Qwly pjfmf jF pYNt ikQy hY. qF Auh mhfieÈf ibnHF pYNt, pjfmy qoN hI dOV afey sn.

srdfr mwKx isMG jI kol sfry hwk hn. jy AunHf nUM lgdf hY ky ies afrtIkl nUM pVHn nfl dunIaf zrdI hY qF jrUr ies nUM sfeIt qoN htf lYxf cfhIdf hY.

gurcrn isMG jI mYN quhfzy sfry svflF dy jvfb dy idqy sI. qusF corI dy bfry ijhVI dlIl idqI qF soicaf jy ky www.punjabexpressusa.com qy lYtr pfAux qoN pihlf kI qusIN mYNnUM jfxkfrI idqI sI?

mYN srdfr mwKx isMG jI df siqkfr krdf hF AunHF ny iliKaf sI (sMpfdkI not:- ikAuNik ipCly krmF dI gwl vflI crcf iksy inqIjy qy nhIN phuMc rhI ies leI asIN cfhuMdy hF ik ies nUM iewQy hI bMd kr idwqf jfvy. jo ËrUrI smJx vflI gwl hY Aus bfry crcf kIqI jfvy. Auh ËrUrI gwl hY ik, kI afqmf aqy mn do vwKrIaF cIËF hn jF iewk hI hY? sfieMs ivwc jIv aqy inrjIv dI pRIBfÈf. byËfn aYnrËI ikvyN kMm krdI hY? mrn qoN bfad kI huMdf hY? kI srIr ivcoN koeI afqmf inkldI hY jF mrn dy nfl hI sfrf kuwJ Kqm ho jFdf hY? ikrpf krky iehnf bfry isrP sfieMs dy aDfr qy hI gwlbfq kIqI jfvy aqy gurbfxI dIaF pMgqIaF nf vrqIaF jfx. jdoN ieh nukqy spÈt ho gey iPr ipCly krmf vflI gwl vI spÈt ho jfvygI. ies ivÈy bfry muwK qOr qy vIrpfl isMG aqy qrlocn isMG mhfjn ivckfr hI gwlbfq hovygI. hor vI koeI sieMs df ividafrQI jF pRo: vI Èfml ho skdf hY. afm pfTk ies nUM pVHn qwk hI sImq rwKx. jy kr ho sky qF vIrpfl isMG nUM pMjfbI ivwc ilKxf cfhIdf hY qF ik sfry pfTkF dI smJ ivwc af sky. iewk gurU hI pUrf hY aqy afpF sfry ieQy aDUry aqy sfDfrn gurU ky iswK ividafrQI hI hF koeI lIzr nhIN hF ies leI sB nUM iewk dUjy pRqI ÈbdfvlI cMgI hI vrqxI cfhIdI hY. gurU jI ny gurbfxI ivwc sÉq Èbd bhuqy krky rfjy, vËIr aqy muwK lIzrF bfry hI vrqy hn afm afdmI leI nhIN)

ies leI mYN quhfzy nfl ies ivÈy qy bihs krn qoN sMkoc krFgf. hF jy mwKx isMG cfhuMx qF quhfzy hr svfl df jvfb idqf jfeygf. gurcrn isMG jI qusIN Auho purfxy pRÈn ijnHF dy Auqr idqy vI jf cuky hn kt pyÈt kr ky kI isD krnf cfhuMdy ho?

qrlocn isMG

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gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Dear younger brother S. Makhan Singh jee (Canada),
Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh
When www.sikhmarg.com starts, you have included Nine Baanis, which are very handy to read on line.
If convenient, will it be possible to also add -
(1) Asa Kee Vaar, pages 462 to 475;
(2) Oankaar, pages 929 to 938;
(3) Saloak Bhagat Kabir jee and Sheikh Farid jee -
pages 1364 to 1377 and 1377 to 1384
Thanks for your selfless services.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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kulivMdr isMG

gurpRIq isMG smry dI icwTI df jvfb

1[ quhfzy pihly cfr pYiraF ivwc jvfb dyx vfsqy koeI gwl nhIN aYvyN QF hI kflI kIqI hoeI hY.

2[ Auprly pMjvyN pYry ivwc qusIN isrÌ ieh ikhf hY ik mYN (qy myry sfQI) 'bunch of dishonest bullies' hF. qusIN ibnF iksy dlIl nUM kwitaF ieh Ìqvf idwqf hY ies qoN sfibq huMdf hY ik zFgKor (dishonest bully) qusIN ho asIN nhIN hF.

3. quhfzI ieh gwl vI quhfzy qy hI ZukdI hY. qusIN ipCly pYry ivwc jo ikhf hY qus qoN nYgyitv qusIN hI sfibq huMdy ho aqy ijs icwTI df jvfb asIN idwqf sI kflf aÌÊfnf dI Auh idwTI Èrmnfk hwd qk nYgyitv sI. Aus ny afÉrI pYrf Cwz ky bfkI ds pYrY isrÌ qy isrÌ nYgyitv hI ilKy sn. Aus dy pYrokfr qoN iehI afs kIqI jf skdI sI.

4. quhfzf ieh kihxf ik ieh icwTI bhuqf zf: idlgIr qy hI tyk vflI hY. muafÌ krnf akfl qÉq sfihb vfry iksy hor ivdvfn qy vI tyk rwKI jf skdI hY? kI Aus qoN vD koeI ies ÌlsÌy bfry muhfrq rKdf hY?

5[ pYrf 5 qy 14 iewk dUjy dy ivroDUI nhIN hn jy qyuhfnUM smJ nhIN afeI qF mYN kI kr skdf hF. mYN quhfnUM dlIl dy skdf hF idmfg nhIN). asIN jo mihsUs krdy hF Auh iPr duhrf dyNdf hF.. asIN ies gwl qy XkIn krdy hF ik pRo drÈn isMG ny aKOqI jQydfr huMidaF koeI syD jF pRogrfm nhIN idwqf (AuNj mYN jQydfr df ahudf nhIN mMndf, kflf aÌgfnf dI icwTI jQydfr df ahudf mMndI hY). pr sfrI kOm (ZfeI totVU Cwz ky) mMndI hY ik pRo drÈn isMG 1984 df iËMdf ÈhId hY, ijs ny jfn qlI qy rwK ky kOm ivwc jfn pfeI.

6. quhfzy ies pYry qoN hYrfnI hoeI hY ik qusIN surjIq ‘rfm’ brnflf dy hmdrd ho. Aus bMdy ny drbfr sfihb qy ieMdrf df hmlf shI sfibq krn vfsqy pulIs muKI rbYro dy rokx dy bfvjUd hmlf kIqf sI. Aus ny iek hËfr qoN vD iswK nOjvfn mfry sI qy 5000 kYd kIqy sI. Aus ny kimAUinst, kFgrsIaF qy Bfjpf qy hor iswK duÈmxF nUM ilaf ky lONgovfl ivwc ‘akfl qÉq’ nUM cYlMj kIqf sI. kI Auh ajy vI iswK hY?

6[ (a) kI qusIN iswK ieiqhfs piVHaf hY? mhMq nrYx dfs ‘nrYxU’ hY, 1920 ivwc akfl qÉq df gRMQI bUV isMG ‘bUVI’ qy 1921 ivwc krqfr isMG bydI mhMqF dI ihmfieq kfr ‘krqfrU bydIn’ hY (vyKo: iswK nfnkfxf sflf mgroN aÉbfrF ivwc Aus nUM kI ilKdy sn). iswKF ny inrMkfrI gurbcn nUM gurbcnf iliKaf sI qy ilKdy hn. hF ho skdf hY ik inrMkfrIaF df hmdrd, iswKF df kfql, drbfr sfihb dI byadbI krn vflf surjIq brnflf quhfzf irÈqydfr hovy.

7.Auprly dovyN pYry ivwc koeI svfl nhIN bxdf.

8[ qusIN ijnHF qukF dy gurbfxI ivcoN hvfly idwqy hn AunHF ivcoN koeI vI ZukvIN nhIN hY. iksy gurU ny gMgf nUM afpxy hwk ivwc nhIN vriqaf. Auh hvfly gMgf nUM rwd krn vfsqy hn nf ik Aus nUM pRoVHqf vjoN vrqx vfsqy. vYsy mYnUM BulyKf sI ik qusIN gurbfxI smJdy ho.

9[ qusIN AuNj qF idlgIr jI dI akfl qÉq bfry purfxI ikqfb ivcoN hvfly idwqy hn pr qusIN nhIN piVHaf ik Aus ny 2005 ivwc ies dI soDI ayzIÈn ivwc kI iliKaf sI. AuNj myry kol Auh ikqfb nhIN, hF ipCly mhIny CpI ‘isK qvfrIK’ ËrUr hY. Aus ivwc idlgIr jI ny ies nUM soiDaf hY. Ërf pVHo qF AuhfnUM hor igafn ho jfvygf.

10[ qusIN iblkul TIk iliKaf hY qy ieh isrÌ quhfzy qy hI Zuldf hY. myrf 9 nMbr jvfb iehI sfibq krdf hY ik qusIN ibnf jfixEN ayvyN cfplUsI ihq hI ilK rhy ho.

11[ JUT dI vI hwd huMdI hY. kfl aPgfnf ihmfieqI jIE Aus dy puqr nUM mYN nhIN Aus ny afp hI ivwc GusyiVaf sI. Aus dI icwTI iPr pVHo. Aus ny afp hI Aus df iËkr kIqf sI.

12[ mUrKqf dI vI hwd huMdI hY. kI afpxy ivcfr pyÈ krnf ‘jwj’ jF ‘gurU’ bxnf huMdf hY? ikMny ‘anpVH soc vfly’ jfpdy ho. nfly afr[ aYs[ aYs[ vFg ‘gurU’ lPË nUM eynf ssqf bxf rhy ho. vyKxf ikqy quhfzI nIaq qy Èwk nf ho jfvy iksy nUM.

13[ bfxI df ieh hvflf vI glq hY. ies dy arQ pRo sfihb isMG ivcoN hI pVH ky vyKo Ërf. plIË kuwJ piVHaf kro.

14[ qusIN AuNj qF idlgIr jI dI akfl qÉq bfry purfxI ikqfb ivcoN hvfly idwqy hn pr qusIN nhIN piVHaf ik Aus ny 2005 ivwc ies dI soDI ayzIÈn ivwc kI iliKaf sI. AuNj myry kol Auh ikqfb nhIN hF ipCly mhIny CpI ‘isK qvfrIK’ ËrUr hY. Aus ivwc idlgIr jI ny ies nUM soiDaf hY. Ërf pVHo qF AuhfnUM hor igafn ho jfvygf.

14 bI. quhfzf ieh kihxf ik ieh icwTI bhuqf zf: idlgIr qy hI tyk vflI hY. muafÌ krnf akfl qÉq sfihb vfry iksy hor ivdvfn qy vI tyk rwKI jf skdI hY? kI Aus qoN vD koeI ies ÌlsÌy bfry muhfrq rKdf hY? Èfry iswK imÈnrI, joigMdr isMG sfhnI spoksmYn qy XunIvristIaF dy pRoPYsr qF idlgIr nUM hI akfl qÉq bfry aQfrtI mMndy hn. clo jy qusIN nhIN mMndy qF koeI Prk nhIN pYx lgf.

15[ quhfzI icwTI pVH ky mYnUM mYiQAU afrnlz Xfd af igaf. Auh ilKdf hY ‘mUrK afdmI afpxy afp nUM ivdvfn sfibq krn vfsqy vwzy ivdvfnF coN hvfly dyNdf hY jd ik Auh hiQafr drasl Aus dy ivruD hI jFdy hn. quhfzI icwTI (drasl kflf aPgfnf df izPYNs) pVH ky mYnUM smJ af geI ik ‘dunIaF ivwc human stupidity pUrI qrHF mOjUd hY.’ pr plIË afpxI ies stupidity dI numfieÈ qF nf kro. ies nUM afpxy afp qk rKo.

16[ EQy qusIN Pyr ‘gurU’ lPË nUM ssqf krn dI hrkq kIqI hY. dUjf quhfnUM cuiBaf hY ik asIN iekwiTaF iewk icwTI ikAuN ilKI hY. qIjf qusIN ‘sfQIaF qoN ibnF’ ho.

gurprIq isMG jI mYN ‘isK mfrg’ df aj qk qF pUrf qy pwkf rIzr hF. qusIN sfQIaF qoN ibnF nhIN ho. ‘iswK mfrg’ ivwc vI iewk cult hY. ies ivwc qusIN, gurÈrn isMG ksyl, gurcrn isMG ijAUxvflf qy kuwJ bynfm vI hn jo hmyÈf iewk dUjy vfsqy ilKdy rihMdy ho. hux vI Auh aijhf hI krngy jF qusIN jF Auh iksy nvIn identity hyT ies df BoNzf jvfb jF nPrq nfmf ilKxgy. pr afE mYN iqafr hF. hr gl df jvfb dyvFgf. pr jy quhfzy sfQI s[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI Cfpxf cfhux qF (ipClI icwTI ivwc qF AunHF ny keI lfeInF kwtIaF hn jo drÈn isMG bfry ilKIaF sn).

(mYN nf qF iksy df sfQI hF aqy nf hI dusLmx. quhfzI isrP iek Auh qulnf kIqI hoeI GtIaf sLbdfvlI vflI lfeIn kwtI sI ijsdf jvfb 2004 ivc ‘iswK mfrg’ qy Cp cuwkf sI. quhfzI jfxkfrI leI ieh vI dws deIey ik ijhnf nfvF df qusIN ies pYry ivc ijLkr kIqf hY Auh ies vyly kflf aPgfnf nfloN pRo: drsLn isMG dy ijLafdf nyVy hn. ies df kfrn isrP dsm gRMQ bfry soc ivc qbdIlI qoN hY-mwKx isMG puryvfl)

KYr Buwl cuk mfP. myrf mksd quhfnUM BuMjy lfhuxf nhIN sI, nIvF idKfxf nhIN sI. mYN qF quhfzy svflF df jvfb idwqf hY qy glqIaF vl ieÈfrf kIqf hY. GtIaf bMdf ikV rK lYNdf hY qy cMgf bMdf gwl smJx dI koiÈÈ krdf hY. afs hY afp smJx dI koiÈÈ krogy.

gurU pMQ df inmfxf bwcf

kulivMdr isMG (ies vfr iekwlf hI, sfQIaF qoN ibnF)

sFqf klfmf ipMz, spyn.

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qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

Kflsf kflj pitaflf.

9888169226

vIr pfl jIE

gurU Piqh.

vIr pfl jIE qusIN ivigafn dy byisk asUlF qoN iPr ipCHF ht rhy ho. mYN kdI izsks nhIN kIqf ky ivigafnI rwb nUM mMndy hn ik nhIN. rwb nUM mMnxf hr iewk df prsnl hY. pr vIr pfl jIE iewk gl Xfd rwKo ik ivigafn hr Aus cIj nUM kbUldf hY ijs df nfp hY, qol hY, ijs nUM nMbrF ivwc iliKaf jf skdf hY aqy ijsnUM lbfrtrI ivwc pRXog kr ky isD kIqf jf skdf hY. asIN rwb dI hoNd qy 100% XkIn krdy hF pr rbI igafn sfzy ivigafn df isDf ihsf nhIN bx sikaf. pqf hY ikAuN? ikAuNik rwb sfzy nfp qol qoN pry hY. rwb jI nUM ikvyN lbfrtrI ivwc isD krFgy? ieh iewk vwzI prfblm hY. quhfzf hfsf, roxf, suK, duK vI ivigafn df ihsf nhIN hn ikAuNk ienHF df koeI nfp qol nhIN hY. vIr pfl jIE ies leI ivigafn ruwKf hY. hr cIj df jvfb mMgdf hY. hr cIj nUM ihMdisaF ivwc ilKxf cfhuMdf hY.

jy asIN ivigafink nukqy nfl kuwJ isKxf cfhuMdy hF qF sfnUM vI ivigafn dIaF byisk DfrfvF nUM smJdy hoey bihs krnI cfhIdI hY. rwbI igafn aqy mnuwKI idmfg df ivigafn do awZ awZ lfeInF hn. iewk df sbMD afqmf nfl hY aqy iewk df sbMD idmfg nfl hY. ikMnI ascrjqf hY ky asIN afqmf nUM smJx leI idmfg df kMm lY rhy hF. ieh sB kuwJ quhfzy kr ky krnf pY irhf hY ikAuNik qusIN afqmf nUM smJdy hI kuwJ nhIN. aOr jdoN hux asIN idmfgI ivÈy qy bihs kr rhy hF qF qusIN rwb nUM Xfd kr rhy ho. ies qrHF vIr pfl asIN iksy nqIjy qy nhIN phuMc skFgy. ies leI quhfzy agy bynqI hY ik ikRpf krky ieko lfeIn qy clo qF ky asIN afqmf qF nF shI Gto Gt idmfg nUM qF jrUr smJ skIey.

vIr pfl qusF aYnrjI nUM smJxf cfihaf sI ik ieh lIvINg hY jF nfn lIvINg. mYN quhfnUM qF hI smJf skdf sI jy quhfnUM lIvINg jF nfn lIvINg dI pRiBfÈf klIar huMdI. mYN quhfnUM vfiers bfry puiCaf sI. qusF hux disaf ik Up till now Microbiology community has not given any conclusion on this and still you can find many opinion in this, some may treat Virus as living and some as non-living.

byhwd KuÈI hoeI ik hux jf ky quhfnUM igafn hoieaf ik dunIaf vfiers nUM aj qk nhIN pihcfx skI ik ieh lIvINg hY jF nfn lIvINg. mYN ieh quhfnUM pihlI icTI ivwc vI ds skdf sI pr iPr qusF nhIN sI mMnxf ky ieh ikvyN ho skdf hY. ik iewk cIj lIvINg qy nfn lIvINg do hflqF ivwc iekTI ikvyN ho skdI hY.

hux qk quhfnUM ijhVIaF nvIaF glF df igafn hoieaf hY

(1) aYnrjI kMm kr skdI hY

(2) koeI cIj ieko hI smyN lIvINg jF nfn-lIvINg styt ivwc ho skdI hY.

qusIN afpxy idmfg ivwc bYTfieaf hoieaf hY ik afienstfien muqfibk aYnrjI pdfrQ ivwc qbdIl huMdI hY qF ies leI afqmf iewk aYNnrjI dI iksm nhIN ho skdI. mYN quhfnUM putYNisal aYnrjI bfry puiCaf sI, kI ieh pdfrQ ivwc qbdIl ho skdI hY? qusF hux putYNisal aYnrjI dI iksm puCI hY qF mYN ds irhf hF, suxo svfl hY ky 1 iklo df pdfrQ iewk mItr dI AucfeI qy hY qF Aus ivwc putYNisal aYnrjI 9[ 9 qkrIbn 10 jfAUl hoeIgI. jy afienstfeIn df PfrmUlf vrqIey qF ies aYnrjI qoN qkrIbn 1/10000000000000000 iklo df pdfrQ bxfieaf jf skdf hY. hux quhfzy leI svfl hY ik kI ieh pYktIklI sMBv hY? kI iksy vI lYbfrtrI ivwc aj qk iksy vI aYNnrjI qoN pdfrQ bxfiea jf sikaf hY. ikRpf krky ilKxf. ies pRÈn nUM hl krn qoN bfad hI asIN mMn qUM joiq srUp hYN qy afvFgy.

quhfzy anusfr ‘So you agree that there are no Swarag Narak after life and as per persons action Swarag Narak is on the earth itself. Now if persons actions are resulting in Swarag Narak on this earth then why does he gets results of same action in next life. Why same action has got consequences twice.’

qF vIr pfl krmF df ihsfb ikqfb 100 % inÈicq hY pr hY ieh bVf pycIdf. Coty ijhy idmfg nfl krmF df gUMJldfr ihsfb ikqfb smJxf ievyN hY ijvyN ik asIN sUrj nUM smJx leI kYNzl dI roÈnI dI mdd lY rhy hoeIey.

svrg nrk bfry mYN pihlF vI ilK cukf hF:

aj eylIan hox dy prUP hr jgHf qoN iml rhy hn. sfieMs isD kr cukI hY ky anMq jIvn ies bRihmMz ivwc hY. ies leI sfzy DrqI qoN vI KubsUrq aqy bdsUrq jIvn jy ikqy hY qF ieh ascrjqf vflI gl nhIN hovygI.

qrlocn isMG

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jsbIr isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Sardar Makhan Singh jee,

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji kee Fateh||

The present discussion between Sardar Veerpal Singh and Sardar Trilochan Singh is based on pure science and at least now it looks like a proper way of discussion and both are not using any hurting words.

Interestingly Giani Surjeet Singh's article appeared on this website and none of them commented on it. I do not know what is the meaning of Giani jee by saying only humans got Mann when Gurbani we read in everyday life says "Tin Kavan Khilvey .................................Mann Meh simran Kariaa." Is Mann mentioned by Guru jee in this Quote is different than Mann mentioned by Giani jee? If the learned writer can explain it, the readers will be thankful to him.

Regarding Science, it does not believe in any Atma or Mann or even in God. Maximum they say is mother Nature which plays its role. Mann for them is brain or thinking process of brain which is influence by hormones. If we give female hormones to man for a long time, it will start behaving like females. I am son of a farmer and a good example I can quote out of it. We have buffaloes who often decline to milk. Farmers try different ways one is beating, putting some atta on fodders etc and injecting it with hormones. A buffalo or cow only give milk when the brain releases oxytocin hormone in blood. If brain does not release it, it will not give any milk. Now farmers inject oxytocin from the outer source and get milk. Oxytocin is also called love hormone and the brain stops thinking any other ways under its influence (Kaam). Unfortunately some idiots mix this hormone in home made liquor to make people happy. Now a days people in Punjab have started injecting this hormone to vegetable crops to get maximum yield. I will like to mention here about another hormone called adrenil which animal releases in case of threaten or fear and thus we get less milk or no milk. Readers please excuse me, if the spellings of hormones are wrong. There are other types of hormones called sex hormones or pheromones which are used by animals when a female or male call their partners. Similar to these are invented in labs and checked on animals in order to lure them and kill. In case of dormant seeds or viruses chemicals or hormones start functioning when they get favourable environment. A roasted seed will not provide any plant because their is no life in it or chemicals in it are converted to other forms. Similar case is of a virus. It is often described as a bridge between living or non-living (Prabh bhavey bin saas tey rakhey). God is beyond any comprehension. Jey ko kahe Peechhey Pachhtaiye as it will always be incomplete.

I suggest pure science is boring for readers who do not have a scientific background. Even for the the readers who know science, other fields of science are sometimes boring. For example, a computer scientist will think about computer virus when we talk about viruses.

Dil or Heart does not think, its job is to get the blood, clean it and pump it to various parts of body. Word mentioned in Gurbaani Dil (Bandey Khoj dil har roz) or Dilhu Muhabaat jin soii sachiaa are for mann which means what is inside your thinking. Andron Jhuthey Paij Bahar .... or Androh Normal, Bahroh Nirmal etc are so many quotations from Gurbani which can be given . Bhul Chuck Muaf.

regards,

Jasbir Singh

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

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pRo[ mhfjn jI jy quhfnUM gurbfxI df igafn hY qy ivÈvfÈ vI krdy ho qF ‘iswK mfrg” dy pfTkF `c zr pYdf krn vfsqy qusIN ies qrHF dy mjbUn ikAuN ilKdy ho? ikAuNik ieh sfrf kuwJ qF gurbfxI dy Ault hY. gurbfxI bMdy dI pUrn aËfdI dI gwl krdI hY qy qusIN mnuwK dI mnuwK koloN gulfmI dI. gurbfxI bMdy nUM vrqmfn ivwc KVf krdI hY qy qusIN cfr sfl bfad afAux vflI qbfhI `c. jdoN ik gurU nfnk sfihb mnuwK nUM iewk dmI bxfAuNdy hn:

DnfsrI mhlf 1] hm afdmI hF iewk dmI muhliq muhqu n jfxf] nfnku ibnvY iqsY sryvhu jf ky jIa prfxf] 1] aMDy jIvnf vIcfir dyiK kyqy ky idnf] 1] rhfAu] {pMnf 660}

pRo[ mhfjn jI gurU nfnk sfihb ny ikqny idnF dI gwl kIqI hY? jy mnuwK iewk dm ivwc ijAux lwg pvy qF kI koeI iksy dI DI-BYx vwl burI nËr nfl qwkygf? nhIN. kI koeI mnuwK corI krygf? nhIN. kI koeI mnuwK lflc krygf? nhIN. asl `c mnuwK mnuwK bxygf hI AudoN jdoN Auh vrqmnf qy iewk dmI hoeygf. nhIN qF ieh gurU sihbfn dy hukm, krqUiq psU kI mfns jfiq] lok pcfrf krY idnu rfiq] {pMnf 267}, muqfbk ieh psU hI hY.

ipCly lwKF hI sflF qoN mnuwKI Èoisn bhuq hoieaf hY. gurmuK ipafry Gwt qy DfVvI ies sMsfr ivwc bhuqy afey ijnHF ny ies mnuwK nUM afpxy asly nfloN qoiVaf. bxdf bxdf mnuwK pÈU hI bx igaf qy iehI hflq hY awj sfry sMsfr qy Kfs krky quhfzy pitafly Èihr dy bhuqy pRoPYsrF dI, ijnHF dy nfm mYN pihlF afpxI ilKq ivwc ilK cuikaf hF, jdoN Auh gurbfxI df ÈrIk dsm gRMQ pYdf krn ivwc srkfr dI mwdd qy Auqry hoey hn qy nfl dI nfl gurU gRMQ sfihb dI bfxI nUM vI quhfzy vFgr ihMdU mwq dIaF aYnkF lf ky lokF `c pRcfrdy hn.

gurbfxI dI jnm-mrn dI pRIBfÈf afpxI hY ijsdI awj qk quhfnUM smJ nhIN peI. mF dy pyt ivcoN hr roj lwKF mnuwKI jIv pYdf huMdy hn qy lwKF hI mrdy hn. gurbfxI ienHF nUM nf jMimaf qy nf miraf krfr idMdI hY. ieh qF isrP iewk ÈrIrk ikRaf hY.

gurbfxI muqfbk qf ijAuNdf Auh hY jo krqfr nfl juiVaf hoieaf hY nhIN qf Auh miraf hoieaf hY.

sloku] aiq suMdr kulIn cqur muiK iÕafnI DnvMq] imrqk khIaih nfnkf ijh pRIiq nhI BgvMq] 1] pMnf 253]

isafxf, suMdr, igafnI vI miraf hoieaf hY jy Auh jIvn `c swc Dfrn nhIN krdf.

pAuVI] ÕMÕf Ktu sfsqR hoie iÕafqf] pUrku kuMBk ryck krmfqf] iÕafn iDafn qIrQ iesnfnI] som pfk aprs AuidafnI] rfm nfm sMig min nhI hyqf] jo kCu kIno soAU anyqf] Auaf qy AUqmu gnAu cMzflf] nfnk ijh min bsih gupflf] 16] {pMnf 253}

jy cMzfl ny ijMdgI `c swc Dfrn kIqf hoieaf hY qF Auh dUijaF dy mukfbly qy Auqm hn.

m: 1 sloku] so jIivaf, ijsu min visaf soie] nfnk avru n jIvY koie] jy jIvY, piq lQI jfie] sBu hrfmu jyqf ikCu Kfie] rfij rMgu, mfil rMgu, rMig rqf, ncY nMgu] nfnk Tigaf muTf jfie] ivxu nfvY piq gieaf gvfie] 1] {pMnf 142}

gurU sihbfn qF ijAuNdf Aus nUM mMndy hn jo swc df DfrnI hY nhIN qF Auh ÈrIrk qOr qy ijAuNdf hoieaf vI miraf hoieaf hY.

sPlu jnmu qF kf prvfxu] pfrbRhmu inkit kir jfxu] {869}

jIvn Ausy mnuwKI jIv df prvfn mMinaf jvygf ijs ny prmfqmf nUM afpxy ihrdy ivwc vsfieaf hoieaf hY.

1920-25 ivwc PrIkot vflf tIkf ilKx qoN pihlf hI sujfx iswK pRo[ gurmuK isMG ny ienHF df KrVf vyKidaF sfr hI iesdf vroD kIqf. pr pMizq krqfr isMG dfKf qy pMizq bdn isMG dfKf ny ikhf ik hux quhfnUM sfzI gwl mMnxI hI pvygI. iPr pRo[ gurmuK isMG kihx lwgy ik ieh klMk mYN afpxy nfm nfl nhIN lgvf skdf qy mYN kpUrQly vfly rfjy nUM afpxI rfie idMdf hF. pRo[ gurmuK isMG qF PrIdkotIey vfly tIky nUM iqafr krn vflI kmytI qoN bfhr ho gey pr ibmfrI lokF dy pwly pY geI. ikAuNik asIN pyNzU ividaf qoN kory sF ies krky ieh tIkf ipMzF ivwc vI mÈhUr ho igaf. hux asIN vI ividaf pVH ky kuwJ igafn nUM smJx dy smrwQ ho gey hF ies krky awj quhfzy vrgy nfrdmunI sfnUM nrk-surg, ipCly krmF dy PlF, jUnF, Drm rfj dI kichrI qy Aus dy do kuiqaF, ijnHF df ihMdU imiQhfs koÈ muqfbk nfm Èrmf hY, jMmx- mrn dy zr qy punrp jnm dy lflc `c nhIN Psf pfAuxgy. gurU nfnk sfihb muqfbk awj asIN pUrn aËfdI dI mMg krdy hF qy jo vI ies rsqy `c roVf bx afvygf Aus nfl twkr lfËmI hY.

qusIN vIrpfl isMG dI icwTI df jvfb idMidaF ieh iliKaf hY ik quhfzy ‘sMq” dI bolI kuwJ kOVI hY. pRo[ mhfjn jI ienHF vIrF ny jo kuwJ vI iliKaf afpxI mOj ivwc iliKaf hY pr mYN ieh smiJaf hF ik ijQoN iksy nUM kuwJ igafn imilaf Ausy vfsqy ienHF ny ‘sMq’ lPË vrq idwqf. pr mYN ieh kihxf cfhFgf ik mYN Èyr vflI bolI boldf hF qy Èyr Bwbk mfrdf hY qy kdI vI ibwlI vflI bolI nhIN boldf. iehI ÈihrI qy pyNzU bolI df aMqr hY

qusIN ilKdy ho ik ilKdy ilKdy dIaF myrIaF AuNglIaF drd krn lwg peIaF hn. kI ieh iswKF vflI gwl hY? jfE Kqrfxy dI Zfb qy, sihkdy mhF isMG nUM afpxy kr kmlF nfl pfxI df Cwnf Br ky iplfE qy mMg kro ik myrIaF AuNglIaF ivwc aYsf bl afvy ijs nfl mYN nf isrP tfeIp hI kr pfvF sgoN ieh AuglIaF klgIaF vfly vwloN bKÈI ikRpfn PVn jogIaF ho jfx qy mYN bfby nfnk dy aslI isDFq df vfrs bx skF. asl `c ieMÖ lwgdf hY ik ijvyN quhfzI koeI aMglI-sMglI mfstr qfrf isMG jI nfl rldI hovy. soc muqfbk qF qusIN pwky pMizq/bfxIaf jfpdy ho pr nfm muqfbk jrUr dyKx nUM iswK. so AuNglIaF ny drd qF krnf hI hoieaf. iewk hor vI kfrn jfpdf hY ieQo kuwJ Kwtx nUM nhIN isrP gvfAux nUM hI hY. iPr EhI pMizq ibrqI.

pRo[ mhfjn jI/nfrdmunI jI qusIN afpxI icwTI ivwc ilKdy ho ik gurU arjn pfqÈfh jI ny suKmnI ivwc ‘sMq’ dI bVI mihmf kIqI hY. ieh dwsxf ik gurU jI vyly ikhVy dyhDfrI ‘sMq’ sn? jy nhIN sn qF gurbfxI BivKbfxI nUM nhIN mMndI. jy gurbfxI muqfbk dyhDfrI gurU nhIN ho skdf qy dyhDfrI cylf vI prvfn nhIN;

pvn arMBu, siqgur miq vylf] sbdu gurU, suriq Duin cylf] akQ kQf ly rhAu inrflf] nfnk juig juig gur gopflf] eyku sbdu ijqu kQf vIcfrI] gurmuiK hAumY agin invfrI] 44] {pMnf 943}, qF ieh dwsxf jI ik gurU jI ny lutyry, lwbVgwty, lokF dIaF DIaF BYxF dI iejq lutx vfly, lokF dy duwD qy plx vflIaf jokF aqy gol qy nMgIaF kfm AuksfAU lwqF vfilaF ivhlVF dI jmfq dI ‘suKmnI’ ivwc Ausqwq krky Boly-Bfly lwkF dI luwt-mfr krvfAuxI sI?

qusIN myry qy ipClI icwTI ivwc corI df ieljfm vI lgfieaf sI. mYN qF sgoN ihk QfpV ky quhfnUM dwisaf sI ik quhfzy bfry myrI tIkf itpxI “iswK ivrsf” mhInfvfrI rsfly ivwc Cwp cuwkI hY. qF iPr mYN cor ikvyN hoieaf?

nIcy ilKy svflF dy svfb qusIN TIk nhIN idwqy:

svfl pihlf: qusIN ilKdy ho, “jy byd kqyb hI mfVy hn qF asIN cMgy ikQoN hoey” ? vIr jIE asIN cMgy bxnf sI pr bxy nhIN. smfj df vwzf ihsf bydF kqybF nUM mMndf hY qy Bfrq awj grIb qy BirÈt mulkF dI kqfr ivwc swB qoN muhrlI kqfr ivwc KVdf hY. qusIN ies gwl qoN ienkfrI nhIN ho skdy.

jo awj qk mYN ismRqIaf, bydF, gIqf jF ienHF dIaF hor Dfrimk pusqkF bfry piVaf jF suixaf hY: ÈMBUk nfmI ihMdU Èudr pRBU BgqI krn lwgf bRhfmx nUM cMgf nhIN lwgf qF bRhmxF ny rfm cMdr nUM cwk ckf ky ÈMBUk df kql krvf idwqf, srUpnKf ny lwCmx nUM ivafh dI pyÈks kIqI qF rfm cMdr ny Aus aOrq df nwk vwz idwqf. iesdf ieh Bfv vI inkldf hY ik ÈfeId Aus vIcfrI aOrq blfqkfr hI kr idwqf hovy. kI ienHF khfxIaF dI gurU jI ny gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc ÈlfGf krnI sI? kI aYsy cfl-cwlx vflf mnuwK iksy Drm df moZI khfAux dy lfeIk hY jF Aus nUM avqfr ikhf jfxf cfhIdf hY? kI koeI mnuwK iksy dy pYr ivcoN pYdf ho skdf hY? ies qrHF dIaF hjfrF khfxIaF df vrnx kIqf jf skdf hY. kI qusIN cfhogy ik afpF sfry ihMdU Drm df cIr hrx krIey?

svfl dUjf: pRo[ qrlocn isMG jI myrI smJ anusfr quhfnUM ismrn dI smJ nhIN peI. jy cAubfry ivwc bMd ho ky iksy rwb dy nfm df rtn krnf hI nfm ismrn hY qy iPr Auh rwb Kus ho ky nfm ismrn vfly nUM mukqI jF kuwJ hor dyvygf qF sfnUM aYsy lflcI rwb dI loV nhIN. awgy kuwJ pMgqIaf ilK irhf hF ijnHF ivwc kUMjF, pAux, pfxI afid dy ismrn dI gwl kIqI geI hY pr ienHF sfiraF nUM pMjfbI pVHnI nhIN afAuNdI qy ienHF ivcoN keIaF dy jbfn vI nhIN lwgI. ikRpf krky ieh smJfAux dI Kycl krnI ik kUMjF, pAux, pfxI afid ismrn ikhVI jbfn nfl krdy hn?

AUzy AUiz afvY sY kosf iqsu pfCY bcry Ciraf] iqn kvxu KlfvY kvxu cugfvY mn mih ismrnu kiraf] 3] {pMnf 10}

gfvih quhno pAuxu pfxI bYsMqru gfvY rfjf Drmu duafry] gfvih icqu gupqu iliK jfxih iliK iliK Drmu vIcfry]

Driq pfqflu afkfsu hY myrI ijMduVIey sB hir hir nfmu iDafvY rfm] pAuxu pfxI bYsMqro myrI ijMduVIey inq hir hir hirjsu gfvY rfm] vxu iqRxu sBu afkfru hY myrI ijMduVIey muiK hir hir nfmu iDafvY rfm] nfnk qy hir dir pYnÙfieaf myrI ijMduVIey jo gurmuiK Bgiq mnu lfvY rfm] 4] 4] {pMnf 540}

mfrU solhy mhlf 5

ÃÄ siqgur pRsfid] ismrY DrqI aru afkfsf] ismrih cMd sUrj guxqfsf] pAux pfxI bYsMqr ismrih ismrY sgl Aupfrjnf] 1] ismrih KMz dIp siB loaf] ismrih pfqfl purIaf scu soaf] ismrih KfxI ismrih bfxI ismrih sgly hir jnf] 2] ismrih bRhmy ibsn mhysf] ismrih dyvqy koiV qyqIsf] ismrih jiK´ dYq siB ismrih agnqu n jfeI jsu gnf] 3] ismrih psu pMKI siB BUqf] ismrih bn prbq aAuDUqf] lqf blI sfK sB ismrih riv rihaf suafmI sB mnf] 4] {pMnf 1078-1079}

pRo[ vIr jIE jrf Kuwl ky iviKafn krnf ky ijhVy jIv jMqU pMjfbI nhIN pVHnf jfxdy Auh ikhVI bolI ivwc nfm ismrdy hn? jy jIvF df nfm ismrnf koeI vwKrI gwl hY qF ieh vI ibafn krnf ik ikAuN? ijnHF dy jbfn nhIN lwgI Auh ikhVf qy ikvyN nfm ismrdy hn?

pitafly dy ijafdfqr pRoPYsr iswKI dy Ault ikAuN jf rhy hn? ienHF QoVy ijhy svflF df Auqr ilK dyxf.

svfl qIjf: “jo bIjY soeI Plu pfey supnY suKu n pfvixaf (pMnf113-114) “[

“kUiV kpit iknY n pfieE jo bIjY KfvY soie” (pMnf 39-40)[

“jyhf bIjY so luxY, mQY jo iliKafsu (pMnf 134) “

PrIdf loVY dfK ibjaAurIaF, ikkir bIjY jtu[ [, pYDf loVY ptu {pMnf 1379}

“krm DrqI srIru jug aMqir jo bovY so Kfiq[ [ pMnf 78”[

jyhf bIjY so luxY, krmf sMdVf Kyqu {pMnf 134}[ [

pRo[ mhfjn jI qusIN ieh vI dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI ik ienHF pMgqIaF ivwc iks iks awKr df mqlb ipClf jnm inkldf hY qy ienHF pMgqIaF ivwc Buqkfl jF BivKq kfl iks iks awKr df mqlb hY?

sroqf jnF vfsqy ieh dwsxf munfsb hY ik Aupr ilKIaF sfrIaF pMgqIaF vrqmfn ivwc hn qy iksy iewk vI awKr df mqlb ipClf-aglf jnm nhIN bxdf.

svfl cOQf: pRo[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI qusIN ienHf ÈhIdF dI ÈhIdI qy iswDf hmlf qF nhIN kIqf pr jdoN qusIN ipCly krmF dy PÜF dy tokry ies jnm ivwc dy rhy ho qy asIN cup-cpIqy ienHF nUM leI jf rhy hF qF ieh myrf svfl pYdf hoieaf sI ik ipCly jnm df agly jnm ivwc Pl imldf hY qF gurU arjn pfqÈfh, gurU qyg bhfdr, gurU goibMd isMG, mfqf gujrI, cfroN sfihbjfdy, ÈhId mqI dfs, ÈhId sqI dfs, ÈhId dieaflf jI, BfeI mnI isMG aqy hor lwKF ÈhId ijhVy afiraF nfl cIry gey, ijnHF ny KoprIaF luhfeIaF, puTIaF KwlF AuqrvfeIaF aqy ijnHF ny bMd bMd ktvfey, quhfzy isDFq muqfbk Auh ÈhId nhIN hoey sgoN sjf Bugq ky cly gey, AunHF nUM AunHF dy ipCly jnm dI sjf imlI hY. iesdf Auqr awj qk nhIN afieaf?

gurbfxI ivwc 12 slok hn ijnHF ivwc punrp jnm dy ivÈvfÈ nUM rwd kIqf igaf hY. ies bfry myry iswK mfrg qy do lyK pVHy jf skdy hn.

svfl pMjvf: bygmpurf iksy Èihr df nfm nhIN. qusIN bygmpury dy arQ lwigaF iesnUM Èihr ikvy bxf Diraf?

ies qoN pihlf vI ilK cuikaf hF ik ijqnf icr qusIN lokF nUM nfrdmunI vflIaF cflF ivwc PsfAuxo nhIN hwtdy AuqnI dyr qk quhfzy qy svflF dI bfrÈ df mINh pYxf lfËmI hY.

bfkI aglI pwqRkf ivc.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

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sR[ mihMdr isMG jI quhfnUM myrI pMjfbI smJI nhIN.

jdoN kdy vI myry mn ivc cfE pYdf huMdf hY ik kuwJ iswKxf hY qF mYN gurU gRMQ sfihb Kolky pVHdf hF. keI vfrI AuWqr Pwt iml jFdf hY qy keI vfrI sfl jF ies qoN vI ijafdf smF lwg jFdf hY. dyhI gupq ibdyhI dIsY ]pMnf 900] bfry vIcfr keI vfrI keIaF nfl kIqI pr arQF dI smJ bhuq dyr bfad peI.

gurU igafn pRfpq krnf ieqnf asfn nhIN qy imhnq vI afp hI krnI pYNdI hY. igafn pRfpq qusIN krnf hovy qy imhnq gurcrn isMG kry ieh nhIN ho skdf. jy kr qusIN myrIaF iqMn jf cfr icwTIaF Kohl ky pVH nhIN skdy qF mYnMU ienHF nUM kwt-pyst krky Qfl ivc pros ky quhfzy mUhry rwKx dI loV nhIN. afsf isMG msqfnf ny sfrI rfq hIr gfAuxI qy sroiqaF ny svyry iehI kihxf ik hIr cUck dI kI lwgdI sI? df mqlb hY ‘mwJ mUhry bIn vjfAuxI’. ZucrI bMidaF nUM jvfb vI Ausy qrHF df hI imlxf cfhIdf hY ijsdy Auh lfiek huMdy hn. jdoN quhfnUM pMjfbI hI smJ ivc nhIN pYNdI qF qusIN pMjfbI ivc ilKy iswK isDFq bfry svfl hI ikAuN krdy ho?

jy koeI bwcf pYdf huMidaF sfr hI mr jfey qF rwb df ies ivc kI dosL? bwcf pYdf huMidaF sfr mrdf hI ikAuN hY ies bfry jfxkfrI pYdf krnI bxdI hY nf ik iksy rwb dy isr dosL mVHn dI. eyqy kUkr hAu bygfnf BAukf iesu qn qfeI ] Bgiq hIxu nfnku jy hoiegf qf KsmY nfAu n jfeI ]4]1] {pMnf 795}] ienHF pMgqIaF df mqlb ieh hY ik jy mnuwK mfVy kMm krdf hY qf dosL prmfqmf dy isr nhIN miVHaf jf skdf.

koeI mnuwK jF bwcf ikDroN lMmI Aumr ilKvfky nhIN sI afieaf ik mYN ieqnf icr ijAuxf hY qy ivc rwb af igaf qy Ausny AyusnUM mfr idwqf. jy rwb ny bwcy nUM iPr mOkf dyx hY qF pihlF mfiraf hI ikAuN? kI rwb df iksy nUM jnm dyxf qy iksy nUM mfrnf kMm hY? gurbfxI df rwb kI hY? ienHF svflF dy Auqr ilK Byjxf afpxI ivcfr awgy cwldI rhygI.

mYnUM hfly sfry iswK isDFq dI ivsQfr pUrvk smJ nhIN peI.

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.

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isMG sBf kYnyzf vYb sfeIt bMd krvfAux dI qIjI asPl koiÈÈ.

siqkfr Xog pfTko quhfnUM asIN ieh dwsxf cfhuMdy hF ik afpxy afp nUM iswK Drm dIaF mohqvfr/rKvflIaF khfAux vflIaF jQybMdIaF dI ieh qIjI sfijÈ Pyhl ho geI hY qy hux ‘sMqF dI mihmf qy dsm gRMQ dI apfr ikRpf’ muV qoN www.singhsabhacanada.com qy dyKI suxI jf skdI hY. ienHF aDrmI lokF dy ieh hmly ‘tksflIaF dI burÈfgrdI’ vIzIE qoN ÈurU huMdy hn. kdy ieh lok vYb-sfeIt vfilaF nUM ieh kihMdy hn ik ieh zI[ vI[ zI[ sfzI bxfeI hoeI hY qy kdy kuwJ. ienHF kol koeI pwkf sbUq nf hox krky ieh hmyÈF hI JUTy sfbq huMdy hn qy iPr qoN[ [ dI Jwg vFgr bYT jFdy hn. iewk vfr ienHF ieh vI prcf drË kIqf ik ieh afAuzIE qy vIzIE sfzIaF bfxfeIaF hoeIaF hn qy ieh, isMG sBf vfly, kfpI rfeIt dI AulMGxf krdy hn. AunHF dI ieh gwl vI JUTI sfbq hoeI. iswK mfrU nIqI awj bodI vfilaF hI nhIN apxfeI hoeI sgoN gfqrfDfrI, kiChrfDfrI, gol pwgVIDfrI qy lMmy Jwgy vfilaF ny apxfeI hoeI hY. ienHF qoN bco.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

isMG sBf ieMtrnYÈnl kYnyzf.

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(10/08/08)
suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

mwKx isMG jI qusIN vDfeI dy pfqr ho, jo ienHF vDIaf afrtIkl mn qy ‘mn qUM joiq srUpu hYN…" --- ipRMsIpl igafnI surjIq isMG, iswK imÈnrI, idwlI’ isK mfrg qy pfieaf. mwKx isMG jI quhfzI ieh syvf iswK jgq leI iewk imsfl hY. iesy syvf sdkf sfnUM vK vK ividvfnF dy ivcfr pVHn nUM imldy hn. mn dIaF prqF nUM Koldf ieh afrtIkl isK ivrsy leI iewk ivrfsq df kMm krygf. asIN srdfr ipRMsIpl igafnI surjIq isMG, iswK imÈnrI, idwlI nUM vI vDfeI idMdy hF aqy afs krdy hF ik AunHF dI klm iesy qrHF sc nUM Aujfgr krdI rhygI.

suKdyv isMG

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(09/08/08)
dlbIr isMG PrIdfbfd

Jgrf eyku inbyrhu rfm] jAu qum apny jn sO kfmu] (aMk óóñ)

syvf ivKy

jQydfr akfl qÉq sfihb,

drbfr sfihb,

aMimRqsr. òø meI òúúø

gurU ipafry gurU svfry siqkfr Xog jQydfr jIE,

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf] vfihgur jI kI Ìqh]

sinmr bynqI hY ik ies icwTI nUM myrI afqmf dI afvfË smJ ky bVy DIrj aqy iDafn nfl pVH ky AuWqr dyx dI ikrpflqf krnI jI.

keI sfl pihlF ipRMsIpl hrBjn isMG jI, ÈhId isK imÈnrI kflj, aMimRqsr, dI ilKI pusiqkf ‘hlUxf’ dy pMnf õ qy ilKI (ñö apRYl ñùù÷ dI ‘ajIq’ roËfnf dI Ébr muqfibk) sUcnf ny myry mn nUM hlUx idwqf ijs ivwc iliKaf sI ik pitaflf dy kflI dyvI mMidr ivwc dyvI nUM Èrfb qy jfnvr (bkrIaF dy Cyly) dI blI cVHfAux leI sfbq sUrq isK isKxIaF vI lfeIn ivwc KVy sn. mn bVf duKI hoieaf; bfxI dyvI-pUjx qoN, Èrfb / nÈy vrqx/vrqfx qoN, jfnvr dI blI / kurbfnI dyx qoN vrjdI hY.

gurU goibMd isMG sfihb jI nUM aqy isK kOm nUM dyvI-pUjk ijs afDfr qy ikhf jf irhf hY Auh bicqR nftk gRMQ/aKOqI (so-called) dsm gRMQ hY. kuwJ ivdvfn ies gRMQ nUM guru-ikRq mMndy hn aqy kuwJ ivdvfn gurU-ikRq nhI mMndy. ieh duibDf dUr krx leI dfs ipCly qkrIbn ds sfl qoN ies gRMQ df aiDaYn kr irhf hY. ies gRMQ df zf: rqn isMG jI jwgI df tIkf vI dfs ny iDafn nfl piVaf hY. ies gRMQ df aqy iesdy afDfr-gRMQF (iÈv purfx, mfrkMzyX purfx, sRImd Bfgvq purfx, qFiqRk mq dy lyK / pusiqkF) dI pVcol krky kuwJ lyK afp jI dI nËr-ÈfnI leI Byj irhf hF:

(ñ) bicqR nftk gRMQ ivwc drj rcnFvF df vyrvf; aqy kuwJ Kfs nukqy (do pMny).

(ò) ieÈt df srUp: bicqR nftk gRMQ ivwc aMdrly pRmfx vIcfiraF ieÈt mhfkfl-kflkf, jo ik iÈv-pfrvqI df arD-nfrIÈvr ivnfÈkfrI srUp hY, hI isD huMdf hY. (sq pMny)

(ó) rcnhfrf / ilKfrI kOx: pUry gRMQ ivwc ikqy ‘nfnk’ pd kvI Cfp vjoN nhI iliKaf blik dyvI pUjk vfm-mfrgI kvIaF dI Cfp ‘kib sXfm BnY’, ‘kib rfm khY’, ‘kib kfl’ ilKI imldI hY. isD huMdf hY ik gurU goibMd isMG jI ies gRMQ dy rcnhfry nhI hn. (do pMny)

(ô) ilKfrI Bulxhfr: guru aqy prmfqmf qF Bulxhfr nhI. iewk aD cMgI gl krx vflf vI jy mfVIaF glF kry qF bfxI-gurU jI AusnUM ‘ieafxf’ hI afKdy hn. ieafxy kvIaF dI gwl mMnIey jF aBul gurU sfihb dI? cyqy krIey sfKI bfbf rfmrfie jI dI ‘imtI muslmfn kI[ [ vflI. (iek pMnf)

(õ) ihkfXqF: pr-iesqRI aqy pr-purÈ sMbMD-pRyrk aÈlIl ÈbdfvlI vflIaF; nÈy pRyrk kQFvF, (cirqRo pfKXfn dI nkl). kI ieh gurU goibMd isMG jI dI ilKq ho skdy hn? (do pMny)

(ö) iesqRI bfry ivcfr gurmiq ivruD hn; ikvyN prvfn kIqI jf skdI hY? kI dsvyN nfnk jI dI ivcfrDfrf pihly nfnk jI qoN vKrI hY? (iek pMnF) (÷) ies gRMQ ivwc ilKI aÈlIl ÈbdfvlI dy kuwJ aMÈ: aYsI ÈbdfvlI XkInn gurU goibMd isMG sfihb jI dI nhI ho skdI. (iek pMnf)

(ø) mOjUdf isK rhq mrXfdf ivwc doglf pn: mrXfdf qy nvyN isirAN vIcfr krx dI loV hY. isK dI ardfs vfihgurU awgy hovy jF iksy dyvI awgy? hr jwQy dI mrXfdf alg ikAuN? hr sMq-zyry dI mrXfdf vK vK ikAuN? gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM gurU mMnx vfly hr isK qy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI qy afDfirq ieko hI mrXfdf lfgU hovy.

(ù) aKAuqI dsm gRMQ dI bRfhmxI gRMQF nfl qulnf:- (iqMn pMny)

gurU ipafry jIE! myrI ÈrDf gurU gRMQ sfihb jI qy atut hY. mYnUM pwkf XkIn hY ik gurU gRMQ sfihb jI pUrn gurU hn. aMimRq Ckx smyN ieh gurvfk mYnUM idRV krfieaf igaf sI “so siqguru Dnu DMnu ijin Brm gVu qoiVaf] so siqguru vfhu vfhu ijin hir isAu joiVaf]” (aMk õòò) siqgurU gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI mhfnqf drsfAuNdIaF aYsIaF anykF pMkqIaF idRV krfeIaF geIaF sn. ipCly qkrIbn ôø sfl qoN, aOsqn iewk sfl ivwc smfpqI, gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI aMimRq-meI Dur kI bfxI df shj-pfT vI siqgur jI ikrpf sdkf hux qk jfrI hY. gurbfxI ies nfcIË dy ihrdy ivwc Ds-vs cukI hY. hr pl vfihgurU jI (ipRQm vfihgurU ismr ky…) awgy iehI ardfs krdf hF “ikrpf kirE ik ieh nfcIË siqgurU jI qoN kdy vI bymuK n hovy.”

myrI vwzI duibDf ieh hY ik jdoN mY jugo jug atl siqgurU gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy hukm ‘siqgurU ibnf hor kcI hY bfxI] [ [ afvhu isK siqgurU ky ipafirho gfvhu scI bfxI]’ nUM mMn ky gurU gRMQ sfihb jI qoN bfhr dIaF bfxIaF jfpu, svYXy, copeI[ [ nhI pVHdf qF pMQ-doKI bxdf hF aqy jy pVHdf hF qF gurU-hukm dI AulMGxf hox krky guru-doKI bxdf hF. n qF mYN pMQ doKI bxnf cfhuMdf aqy n hI gurU doKI. ikrpf krky dso, mYN kI krF?

bicqR nftk gRMQ dI iDafn nfl pVcol krn qoN bfd ieMj pRqIq huMdf hY ijvyN iksy ny mYnUM duD df ktorf pyÈ kIqf hovy ijs ivwc qyË Ëihr imilaf hoieaf hY ijs nfl myrI (afqmk) mOq XkInI hY. aYsy ËhrIly-duD df ktorf qF sfrf hI sutxf pvygf ikAuNik aYsf duwD Cfx ky pIqf nhI jf skdf.

myrf anmol mnuKf jnm pMQ ny svfrnf hY jF gurU ny? mY sicafr kIhdy awgy hoxf hY? kI pMQ dI koeI mhfn hsqI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI dy Ault hukm dy skdI hY? jy mY aKOqI dsm gRMQ ivwc drj jfpu, svYXy, cOpeI[ [ df pfT nhI krdf, kyvl aqy kyvl gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxIaF df hI pfT krdf hF, qF kI afp jI mYnUM nfsqk afKogy?

gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df hukm:

rfh dovY ieku jfxY soeI isJsI] kuPrgoa kuPrfxY pieaf dJsI] (aMk ñôò)

hr gurisK nUM mMnxf cfhIdf hY. ikrpf krky ies nfcIË nUM kuÌr (JUT) dy rfh qy n GilE.

afp jI ny myrI pihlI icwTI ñ÷-ñú-òúú÷ qfrIÉ vflI df koeI jvfb nhI idwqf. afp jI dI cuwpI df iehI arQ hovygf ik myry Auprly inÈkrÈ (inrxY) TIk hn.

afp jI dy jvfb dI byqfbI nfl AuzIk ivc,

dfs

(dlbIr isMG) PrIdfbfd (Ìon: ùøùùúõøôõø)

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vIrpfl isMG

Prof Mahajan Jee,

WJKK WJKF...

1. You mentioned that Science is based upon philosophy that every problem can be solved and has got solution. Please tell me if any of scientist has claimed that he is equal to God or if any one has claimed that he is special person and close to God, In fact I can list down all the sants who made this claim and want other people to give them special treatment. Infact all scientists agree to fact that science is study of creation of God. Science do claims that problem can be solved but only when we are logical and rational and this does not means that scientist become god.

2. Virus Debate- Up till now Microbiology community has not given any conclusion on this and still you can find many opinion in this, some may treat Virus as living and some as non-living due to its particle behaviour before coming in host. But your question that how does Virus comes to know that now it can grow as it is in host, I have already commented these question are like why does Elephant eat veg food and why does Lion ignore veg. Infact in human beings also no one knows when baby inside mother gets life so it does not means that baby is non living. Same is with all living beings no one knows when does and how does they get life in egg or in seed or in mother's body. why does action have reaction and why does wind blow, why does a person die and all this is as per divine will of god.

3. Potential Energy- Potential energy itself of many types, Electric, Gravitational, Elastic and all of the potential energies have got relation ship with mass which easily clarifies that how much potential energy is required to convert it into the mass. Further potential energy can be converted to any form of energy that is why it is referred as Potential Energy. you can read this link which describes how Potential Energy has got Mass and graviational field :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalence

4. Please provide me definition of Atma as per you so I can share some more views as per that. Please think deeply before giving some definition of Atma. Actually you saw law of conservation of energy so you said atma is energy while they don't have any comparison. If law of conservation is only criteria then there is law of conservation of Matter, Law of conservation of momentum (within a single system and whole universe can be imagined as one system), law of conservation of charge ...

5. So you agree that there are no Swarag Narak after life and as per persons action Swarag Narak is on the earth itself. Now if persons actions are resulting in Swarag Narak on this earth then why does he gets results of same action in next life. Why same action has got consequences twice.

6. You have still not commented about Man tu jot sarrop hai apna mool pachan....

from this line it is clear that man does not remember that it is jot saroop and is in illusion still Guru saahib is saying to man that man tu jot saroop hai and apna mool pachan.

Man is always jot saroop, Man in illusion has to bear pain and is never satisfied and is always unhappy while Man which is not in illusion is satisfied and happy.

Thanks,

Veerpal Singh

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(08/08/08)
qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

Kflsf kflj pitaflf.

9888169226

vIr pfl jIE

gurU Piqh.

quhfzf ieh ilKxf ik: As a Professor you must know that any attempt of person to find end of God or secret of God is useless, Attempt can be done in several ways either by some scientific way or by any relegious ritual and all are useless. Guru Nanak also mentioned same in Jap Ji that Lot of people Rishi, Muni, Gyanis, Pandits, Kazee have there own theory of creation of world but none of them can mention what was the time, month season when God created things and SGGS strictly advises Sikh to avoid the attempt to find the end of that endless God. Even SGGS itself also does not specify an end of  God and its creation.

 koeI vI aMq nhIN pf skdf ik jIvn iks ny idqf. jfx ky byhwd KuÈI hoeI ik qusIN vI ies gl nUM mMndy ho ky koeI aMq nhIN pf sikaf. ieho gl mYN quhfnUM ÈurU qoN kih irhf hF ky jo qusIN jfxdy ho Auh aMqm sc nhIN hY. ies leI kdI vI afpxI isafxp nUM aMqm sc nf mMno. ies scfeI nUM srdfr mwKx isMG jI horF ny vI jfixaf aqy iesy leI mYnUM qy quhfnUM ivigafnk nukqy nfl bihs krn nUM kihaf hY.

pr Brfvf: aPsos nfl kihxf pvygf ky sfieMs ienHF glF nUM nhIN mMndI. sfieMs dI buinafd hI ieho hY ik hr pRÈn df hl hY. hF jy iksy cIj df hl nhIN hY qF Auh sfzI kmjorI kr ky hY. sfieMs ieh mMndy hoey agy qurdI hY. hux jdoN ik asIN ivigafnk nukqy nfl gl kr rhy hF qF sfnUM hr svfl df jvfb dlIl nfl dyxf pvygf.

ies leI afs hY jd qk sfieMs dy ilhfj nfl bihs rhygI qF qusIN iesy dfiery ivwc rihMdy hoey Auqr idEgy.

vIr pfl mYN quhfnUM pihlF vI disaf hY ik asIN jfx skdy hF ik afqmf vI iewk Kfs iksm dI aYnrjI hY jy qusI pihlF klIar hovo ik lIvINg kox hY aqy nfn-lIvINg kox hY.

qusF lIvINg dI pRiBfÈf idqI sI ijhVI cIj vwDy Puly afpxy afly duafly nfl iraYkt kry. ijs ivwc PYslf lYx dI qfkq hovy. iPr myrf svfl sI vfiers nUM qusIN kI khogy lIvINg jF nfn lIvINg. vfiers pRtInF df bixaf hoieaf pdfrQ hY jdoN hI ies nUM koeI host imldf hY qF ieh aYktIvyt ho jFdf hY. qusF jvfb idqf ky ieh iewk aFzy vFgUM jF iensfn vFgUM hY. iensfn lIvINg hY pr jdoN ieh mr jFdf hY qF ieh nfnlIvINg bx jFdf hY.

ies qoN aglf myrf svfl sI:

jd qk vfiers nUM koeI host nhIN imldf qd qk ieh siQr hY nf vwD irhf hY nf Gt irhf hY nf kuwJ Kf irhf hY nf pI irhf hY nf afly duafly nfl iraYkt kr irhf hY. pr jdoN hI ies nUM ies dy lfiek host imilaf qF ieh ijMdf ho igaf. hux ieQy svfl hY host imlx qoN pihlF quhfzI pRiBfÈf muqfibk ieh byjfn sI. pr ieh dso ky ies nUM iks ny Kbr idqI ky hux qyry muqfibk df host hY qy qUM hux ijMdf ho jf. soc ky ieh jvfb dyxf. jy vfiers nUM ieh mihsUs hMdf hY qF ies df mqlB ky Auh host imlx qoN pihlF vI ijMdf sI pr quhfzI pRiBfÈf df iPr kI bxygf. ieh svfl ievyN df hI hY ijvyN iewk bIj hY. quhfzI pRIBfÈf Aus nUM byjfn khygI ikAuNik Aus ivwc nf qF koeI hlcl ho rhI hY. nf Auh vwD irhf hY. nf Aus ivwc PYslf lYx dI qfkq hY nf hI Auh koeI iraYkt kr irhf hY Auh sdIaF qk ipaf rhygf. pr jy Aus nUM imtI jF pfxI ivwc riKaf jfvy qF Aus ivwc hlcl ÈurU ho jfvygI. jIvn pUMgrnf ÈurU ho jfvygf qF vIr pfl jI dsxf ky Aus bIj nUM ikvyN pqf lgdf hY ky hux Aus dy cogIrdy Auho ijhy hI hlfq hn ijhVy Aus nUM cfhIdy hn qy Auh hux pUMgr pvy. jy ieh kuwJ mihsUs krn dI qfkq Aus ivwc pihlF qoN hY qF Auh iPr Auh pihlF byjfn ikvyN hoieaf. quhfzI pRiBfÈf qF Aus nUM byjfn bxf rhI hY.

qusF hux jo Auqr idqf hY Auh klIar nhIN hY ky qusIN kI kihxf cfhuMdy ho. hF qusIN puC rhy sI vfiers dI iksm bfry. qF myry vIr koeI vI vfiers ijvyN aYnIml vfiers, plFt vfiers jF mnuwKI vfiers ijvyN tI[ bI afid. mYN bIj df vI hvflf idqf hY. ikRpf krky jldI dso ky aFzf (ijhVf PrtIlfeIË ho skdf hY), vfiers jF bIj lIvINg ivwc afAuNdy hn jF nfn lIvINg ivc? jy qusIN ienHF nUM lIvINg dsogy qF ikRpf krky afpxI pRiBfÈf nUM sfhmxy rK ky Auqr dyxf. jy ienHF nUM nfn lIvINg dsogy qF ikRpf krky dsxf ky nfn-lIvINg nUM ikvyN mihsUs huMdf hY ky Aus dy duafly kMzIÈn Aus dI Pyvr ivwc hn qy Auh hux lIvINg bx jfx. mYN aYnrjI bfry qF hI klIar kr skdf hF jy pihlF sfnUM ielm hoeygf ky lIvINg hY jF nfn lIvINg dI pRiBfÈf kI hY?

quhfzy anusfr afqmf aYnrjI nhIN ho skdI ikAuNik afienstfeIn muqfibk aYnrjI mYtr ivwc qbdIl huMdI hY. qF vIr pfl jIE disE ik putYNisal aYnrjI nUM mYtr ivwc ikvyN qbdIl kIqf jf skdf hY? jy qusIN ieh Auqr dy idEgy qF mYN mn lvFgf ky qusIN TIk ho qy mYN glq. jy qusIN ies df Auqr nf dy pfey qF……… PYslf quhfzy hwQ. mYN quhfnUM iPr vI glq nhIN mMnFgf.

aKIr:

qusF svrg nrk df hvflf idqf hY. mYN afpxI iksy vI icTI ivwc svrg nrk nUM nhIN iliKaf. hF mYN krm iQAUrI nUM mMndf hF aqy ipCly anMq sPr vI mMndf hF. iksy hor DrqI qy vDIaf jIvn svrg ho skdf hY qy iksy DrqI qy koeI hor qrF df jIvn nrk vI ho skdf hY ikAuNik bRihmMz ivwc anMq DrqIaF hn aqy anMq jIvn hY. ieh sfieMs vI mMndI hY.

quhfzI jldI Auqr dI AuzIk rhygI

qrlocn isMG

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(08/08/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Reply to kulivMdr isMG qy bhuq sfry sfQI

I would like to congratulate Kulwinder Singh and party (bhuq sfry sfQI: from Spain, Belgium and UK) about the reply that they have given to the open letter of KalaAfghana. It seems that they are honest people and are not like people who stoop so low, that in the process they start acting as hooligans, ruffians and hoodlums.

What some people don’t understand is that by trying to stop someone’s letter or views from being published or coercing someone to take down what he has written is an attack on the very foundations of freedom, morality and honesty. Their hypocrisy and double standards is exposed by the greatest linguists of our time Naom Chomsky in his words:

“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”

Before proceeding further I would like to make it clear that I am reserving my opinion about the open letter of KA, I may or may not agree with it which is my right but I stand by what the great French Historian Voltaire said: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

Now coming back to the reply of Kulwinder Singh that he has written in the defense of Prof. Darshan Singh. It (the reply of Kulwinder Singh) falls neither in the category of reply nor the defense of Prof. Darshan Singh, but it turned out to be a childish bickering without any direction and research being done by him. He has formatted his reply in 14 points or paragraphs, most of which don’t deserve a reply.

Rather in the very first paragraph he exposes himself and his followers as a bunch of dishonest bullies who are out to silence other people when he resorted to Ad Hominem attacks (I sincerely wish that they are not related in any way to Prof. Darshan Singh, otherwise Prof. Darshan Singh will also fall into the category of people who resorts to Name Calling when he sees no other alternative). It is to the credit of Makhan Singh Purewal that he right away identified these Name Callers and gave the link to shut them up.

The name-calling technique is an age old technique that links a person, or idea, to a negative symbol. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative symbol, instead of looking at the available evidence.

The paragraph 2, 3 and 4 does not deserve any attention at all. They have been written just for the sake of increasing the size of the letter. These paragraphs show that the writer is either misinformed or is deliberately trying to misinform others. The points that are important in this are:

(1) The writer relies on Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer a lot and

(2) He has asked what was the wonderful drama (‘AucycI Kyz’) played by Prof. Darshan Singh.

The paragraphs 5 and 14 are contradictory. In paragraph 5 Kulwinder Singh along with his ghost writers admits that Prof. Darshan Singh never gave any constructive lead or direction, In his own words he writes :

“ieh shI hY ik pRo: drÈn isMG ny akfl qÉq qoN koeI AusfrU syD nhIN idwqI”

Then in paragraph 14 he writes :

“cyqy rhy ik jd 1984 ivwc kOm byidl ho geI sI qF iesy drÈn isMG ny jfn qlI ‘qy rwK ky kIrqn kr kr ky KfVkU bolF nfl iswKF ivwc dlyrI BrI sI. iesy kirqn ny ÈhId byaMq isMG qy sqvMq isMG nUM ieMdrf nUM sËf dyx vfsqy iqafr kIqf sI qy AunHF ny drbfr sfihb dI byhurmqI dI sËf idwqI sI. cVHdI klf dy ienHF kIrqnF kr ky Aus nUM (do cIÌ minstrF Bjn lfl qy surjIq rfm brnflf dI imlI Bugq kfrn) hirafxf dI jylH ‘c rihxf ipaf sI.”

Another important point to note is that Kulwinder Singh again showing his true colors distorts someone’s name and writes “Surjit Ram Barnala”. Is this Gurmat? or

Bravery that has been instilled in him from the Kirtan of Prof. Darshan Singh?

In paragraph 6 he talks about KalaAfghana being upset because he did not get the reply from Prof. Darshan Singh but he has not explained why till date no reply has been given by Prof. Darshan Singh.

Paragraph 7 and 8 reflects the frustration that Kulwinder Singh has nothing constructive to write and accuses KalaAfghana of heaping praise on himself.

Paragraph 9 deserves special attention as it shows his ignorance about Gurbani and his childish behaviour. He writes:

“AuNj iewQy gMgf nUM muhfvry ivwc vrqx dI kI loV sI. quhfnUM gMgf nfl bRfhmxI ipafr ikAuN jfg ipaf?”

Guru Nanak on page 567 of Guru Granth Sahib writes:

sRIrMg rfqI iPrY mfqI Audku gMgf vfxI ] ibnvMiq nfnku dfsu hir kf qyrI cfl suhfvI mDurfVI bfxI ]8]2]

And page 1022 writes:

“gMgf jmunf kyl kydfrf ] kfsI kFqI purI duafrf ] gMgf sfgru byxI sMgmu aTsiT aMik smfeI hy ]9]

What are your views about Guru Nanak’s Brahminical love with “Ganga” and “Sri”?

In paragraph 10 he states that he don’t agree with the accusation of KalaAfghana that Prof. Darshan Singh congratulated anyone on KalaAfghana’s ex-communication. He then writes :

“(AuNj asIN quhfnUM pMQ coN Kfrj nhIN mMndy. iksy pujfrI nUM aijhf krn df koeI hwk nhIN).”

This shows the ignorance of Kulwinder Singh about the drama/games (‘AucycI Kyz’) of Prof. Darshan Singh. When he became Jathedar he ex-communicated Surjit Singh Barnala. I am not aware of his other ex-communications, if other people know other such anti Gurmat (ex-communications) activities of Prof. Darshan Singh they may share for the knowledge of all.

Someone has rightly said that “The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.”

Paragraph 11 is again Ad hominem where in Kulwinder Singh dragged KalaAfghana’s son in this matter.

But most wonderful item in this letter is Paragraph 12 where Kulwinder Singh is acting as some cult Guru or Judge as if his views carry such a weight that people are bound to agree with it. In the first part he agrees with KalaAfghana about the AucycI Kyz of Prof. Darshan Singh of wearing Black Dress but then in the next part acting as a Judge he writes :

“Èfied ies kr ky ik mYN ajy ies bfry zUMGI ivcfr nhIN kIqI. AuNj zf idlgIr ny 1921 ivwc nfnkfxy ivwc kqlyafm mgroN iswKF vwloN ros vjoN iewk sfl vfsqy kflIaF pwgF bMnHx nUM rwd kIqf sI pr asIN ajy koeI afÉrI ivcfr nhIN bxf sky.”

If Kulwinder Singh is a Sikh who follows Gurbani, there should not be an iota of doubt (zUMGI ivcfr) about this drama (AucycI Kyz) of Black Dress. Guru Nanak clearly tells us on page 225 of Guru Granth Sahib

“ikaf pihrAu ikaf EiZ idKfvAu ] ibnu jgdIs khf suKu pfvAu ]1] rhfAu” ]

Paragraph 13 is about so called Dasam Granth and Prof. Darshan Singh’s activities in this direction. He has praised Prof. Darshan Singh for his crusade against Dasam Granth and I agree with him. For this Prof. Darshan Singh definitely deserve accolades from all quarters.

In the end, he again resorts to his hoodlum techniques (Gunda-Gardi) and threatens using following words:

“iewk iKafl rwiKE jy drÈn isMG Êlq krygf qF asIN Aus nUM vI muafÌ nhIN krFgy.”

I am wondering if Kulwinder Singh is some sort of God-Father or Gangster in Spain, Belgium and UK. Who is he to forgive or punish someone?

lyKY kqih n CUtIaY iKnu iKnu BUlnhfr ] bKsnhfr bKis lY nfnk pfir Auqfr ]1] {pMnf 261}

At the end I would like to tell everyone that I have nothing personal against Prof. Darshan Singh. I respect him as a Gurbani Scholar and I have learnt a lot from his Kirtan. In fact I have also been a student of his GGS academy and even posses a certificate issued with his signature. But if this letter has been written at the behest of Prof. Darshan Singh or he endorses this letter, it would not do any good to his image.

My last words to Kulwinder Singh : He relies on Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer a lot. It seems that he is a personal friend of Dr. Dilgeer. So If he wants to know the various Dramas, Games and politics played by Prof. Darshan Singh, please read Dr. Dilgeer’s book : Akal Takht Sahib (Falsafa ate Twarikh) specifically pages 218 to 230.

I don’t have the habit of mud slinging or character assassination of people but I am just providing the source so that everyone including hoodlums and ruffians should know the facts or information of at least those people whom they have a habit of quoting a lot. In Dr. Dilgeer’s own words :

“drasl rfgI drsLn isMG iswK nOjvfnF nUM sLsqr aqy sLfsqr dy lPLjLf ivc AulJf ky AunHF df iDaFn qy qfkq vMzxf cfhuMdf sI ijs ivwc Auh burI qrHF nfkfm irhf” .(page 225)

rfjIv gFDI vfsqy rfgI drsLn isMG “cl cuikaf kfrqUs hI sI”.(page 226)

After reading the letter of Kulwinder Singh, I can only agree with Einstein: “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

I hope KalaAfghana will not reply to this letter as this person has neither the basic knowledge of Gurbani nor does he know anything about the games of people he is talking about.

My humble request to Prof. Darshan Singh is not to let ruffians and hoodlums distort his image. Rather I believe that this letter has been written by some opponent of Prof. Darshan Singh with the purpose of dragging him into mudslinging games.

To unknown unnamed followers of Kulwinder Singh who have appointed him as their cult Guru and spokesperson to speak on their behalf, let me remind them the teaching of Guru Nanak Sahib:

“gurU ijnf kf aMDulf cyly nfhI TfAu” (pMnF,58)

To all the scholars and honorable people that have gotten involved in this unwanted controversy, I would like to give them the advice of Guru Arjan Sahib

“hoie iekqR imlhu myry BfeI duibDf dUir krhu ilv lfie ] hir nfmY ky hovhu joVI gurmuiK bYshu sPf ivCfie ]1]“(pMnF, 1185)

I am not the sewak of Panth but trying my level best to follow the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib in my day to day life.

Gurpreet Singh Sumra bgyr iksy sfQI (Brampton, Canada)

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(08/08/08)
suKdyv isMG iswiKafrQI qy sfQI

suKdyv isMG iswiKafrQI qy sfQI

s[ avqfr isMG jI imÈnrI.

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

sB qo pihlf quhfzf DMnvfd icwTI dy jvfb dyx df. lyikn vIr jI quhfzy jvfb nfl mYN 100% sMquÈt nhI hF. ‘sMq’ Èbd dI qrHF dI qrHF ‘Éflsf’ sbd vI AunI hI mhwqqf rKdf hY. ies krky agr asI sMq nhI hF qF asI pUrn Kflsy vI nhI hF. awjkl ieh Èbd vI log afpxy nfm nfl ilK ky DrmI hox df sbUq dyx dI koiÈÈ krdy ny.

myrf BYx hrismrq kOr jI vwl ieÈfrf iblkuwl nhI hY. mYN Auhnf dI iqh idloN iejq krdf hF. Auhnf dI ijMnI qfirP kIqI jfey Gwt hY. sfzy afpxy pMjfbIaF dy DIaF-puwqr awj pMjfbI nhI pVH skdy jF pVnf-ilKxf iswKxf psMd nhI krdy lyikn iehnf dI ieh bhuq vwzI dlyrI hY ik ieMnf ny isrP iswK Drm hI nhI apxfieaf sgoN BfÈf nUM iswK ky iewk bhuq vwzI imsfl kfiem kIqI hY.

awj tksflf dy nfl nfl, akfl-qÉq dy sfry mulfjm hI afpxy nfm nfl Kflsf Èbd dI vrqoN krdy ny qy Auh ikMny ku Kflsy ny asI sfry hI jfxdy hF.

mYN ijafdf kuwJ nf kihMdf hoieaf quhfnUM suKivMdr isMG sBrF jI dy lyK dIaF kuwJ lfeInF sFJIaF krdf hF. ieh Auhnf dI buwk Bfg dUjf, iksq nM: 7 qoN leIaF geIaF ny jI.

not: ijQy pRmfqmf nUM hor keI nfvF nfl sMboDn kIqf hoieaf hY AuQy siqpurKu aqy ‘siqgur’ vI keI QfeIN kyvl pRmfqmf vfsqy vrqy hn gurU nUM keI QfeIN ‘siqgur’ vI ikhf hY. ‘Kflsf’ vI smUh Kflsf pMQ nUM afiKaf hY. ieh vI keIafN ny afpxy nfm nfl joiVaf hoieaf hY. jo srfsr Êlq hY. suKmnI sfihb dI 7vIN aÈtpdI ivwc ‘sfD’ pd kyvl gurU vfsqy hY aqy 8vIN aÈtpdI ivwc bRhmigafnI kyvl pRmfqmf vfsqy hY. iksy mnuwK dI isPq ieQy nhIN kIqI geI, BulyKy qoN bco. “nfnk afps kAu afpih phUcf” suKmnI sfihb dI 13vIN aÈtpdI ivwc sMq pd kyvl gurU vfsqy hY. pRmfqmf vfsqy gurbfxI aMdr afey sfD, sMq, bRhmigafnI pd afip Aupdysy smJy afp vfly pRmfx hfËr hn.

Bfgu hoaf guir sMqu imlfieaf..

pRBu aibnfsI Gr mih pfieaf.. pMnf 97

quhfzI icwTI dI iewk lfien vwl quhfzf iDafn dvfAuxf jrUrI smJdf hF. ijQy qusI ‘sMq’ Èbd iksI sfDfrn afdmI leI vriqaf hY.

“ijdx asIN vfps afAuxf sI Aus idn gurduafrf lMibafN muhflI dy muwK syvfdfr sMq mihMdr isMG jI aqy pRo: ggndIp isMG ggn jo gurU Gr ivKy PrI kIrqn isKlfeI akYzmI clf rhy hn EnHF ny akYzmI ivKy bulf ky ÈpYÈl snmfn kIqf aqy bIbIafN dy drbfr sfihb ivKy kIrqn krn df smwrQn kIqf aqy sRLomxI kmytI dy bIbIafN nUM kIrqn nF krn dyx dy rvweIey dI jordfr ÈbdF ivwc inKyDI kIqI.”

quhfnUM cfihdf sI ik ies sMq nUM qusI gurmiq dy sMq bfry dsdy qy ies nUM afpxy nfm nfl sMq rox qoN vrjdy. pr qusI Aus sMq nUM sMq hI rihx idwqf qy afpxI klm nfl vI Aus nUM sMq hI ilK idwqf. ieh hYrfnI vflI gwl hY.

suKdyv isMG qy sfQI.

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(08/08/08)
jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Moninder Singh Ji

The question raised by you is of interest to me. So in order to understand, I have ventured to respond.

Your question is that if a child dies immediately after birth, he/she did not get any chance to understand the message of Guru. Hence this is a case of discrimination, which is not something you expect from Nirvair God. You have further queried that if this child will get another chance of being born as a human being to understand the message of Guru. Or in other words will God do something to rectify this discrimination.

The answer to this question is in the concept of Hukam which is unique to Sikhism. Beside we must keep couple of things in mind before we reach any judgement.

In most cases we as human beings tend to take the position of a judge deciding what is good or bad in what happens to human beings. For example if a person is living in poverty despite being a good person we tend to believe that God is unkind and unfair to him. And if a person is living a luxurious life despite being a bad element of society we tend to believe that God is helpless in this case or God is on his side. The criterion of judgment applied by us is often driven by our own prejudices that blind us from the whole truth.

Secondly, we tend to judge things on the basis of our own concepts and not the one propounded in Guru Granth Sahib. For example what is death or life; what is good for us or others; what is salvation etc. All of us have developed some notions regarding these and we keep on nurturing them. This is where Sikhism or being a Sikh comes to play. One thing that is seldom mentioned about Vaisakhi of 1699 when Guru Gobind Singh institutionalized the procedure of initiation into Sikhism is that he called upon all those who venture to walk on the path of Sikhism to get rid of caste, creed, duality and Karma. ( Kul Nash, Dharam Nash, Bharam Nash and Karm Nash) Now everyone remembers about the 5ks, but no one bothers to ask and help a new entrant into Sikhism to get rid of the old notions that are deeply ingrained in his/her mind due to social, cultural and environmental factors. Guru asked us to leave everything behind if we want to become of a Sikh, but unfortunately most of us keep on carrying the weight of the dead wood of old ideas in our mind. And this is what leads to misinterpretation of the message of Guru. This basically describes the problem with Prof Mahajan. He simply is not willing to leave everything behind.

Probably you are a little bit upset with this long background. Sorry for this. Now coming back to your question; this question has an underlying assumption that makes it a bit hard nut to crack. The assumption is that the child who has died immediately after his/her birth has travelled a long way and worked very hard to earn this life as a human being. So the untimely or premature death is a valid case of discrimination against God as he has been deprived of this golden opportunity to be one with God.

Now if we keep this assumption tagged to this question; it will elude an answer or any answer found for it will contradict the teaching of Guru Granth Sahib. And the moment you get rid of this assumption (which will mean our Dharma Nash), everything will fall in place. Human beings are being created and destroyed under the same Hukam as other types of creations in this Cosmos. Humans are the best among the creation and they rule over everything else. Since they are the best, they are the only one who is capable of understanding and accepting Hukam.

I have tried to understand the concept of Hukam as propounded in Guru Granth Sahib in more detail in my write up “Understanding Jap” which can be read in the current issue of Sikhspectrum. You may read it, if you feel like it.

Thanks and regards.

Jarnal Singh

Sydney Australia.

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(07/08/08)
vIrpfl isMG

Prof Mahajan Jee,

WJKK WJKF...

1. Before going to Virus we need to decide about Energy, we can't compare energy with Atma because you are missing one more point in this that id Einstein's law which clearly states relation between energy and mass ( E=mc2). This means Energy and Mass are interconvertible so now there should not be any question of declaring Energy and Atma as same. Please share your opinion about Einstien's law.

Now about virus, every organism has got its own life cycle. Virus and other micro-organisms as well have. The case you have taken of virus is not specific it is very general. There are many species in Virus itself, please mention some specific virus.

In general micro - organism reside in shell or cyst under unfavourable condition and in favourable condition shell is broken. The questions you are raising is not about definition of living thing or non living thing but it indirectly means is how does a body become living thing or how living beings are created.

As a Professor you must know that any attempt of person to find end of God or secret of God is useless, Attempt can be done in several ways either by some scientific way or by any relegious ritual and all are useless. Guru Nanak also mentioned same in Jap Ji that Lot of people Rishi, Muni, Gyanis, Pandits, Kazee have there own theory of creation of world but none of them can mention what was the time, month season when God created things and SGGS strictly advises Sikh to avoid the attempt to find the end of that endless God. Even SGGS itself also does not specify an end of  God and its creation.

How Life is created or why does I and you have emotions while some bodies don't have is questioning on will of God. Even if a person claims that he has found end of the God then it is like a drop of water is claiming himself to be a whole Ocean.

For Living things it is not necessary to have all the process but atleast some of process should be there, Growth only is not the sole criteria for living things, now after a age person instead of growing his body and cells start becoming old so it does not means that old people are not living because they are not growing. God has given some sort of senses to all organisms, Virus and cells have got nucleus when the senses become toally not repsponsive and there is no process in them then it is dead.

2. Man tu jot saroop hai has got next line as well Apna mool pachan. Man is always jot saroop but due to superstition and lack of knowledge it forgets this thing. If a Lion's cub is breeded with cattle then it does not mean that it will not be Lion's cub but yes cub will forget about this similarly Man also comes under illusion. Man is always jot saroop whether under illusion or not in illusion just like Lion's cub is lion's cub the only difference is Man not in illusion is happy and satified and away from all sorrows of life while Man in illusion has to bear pain and sorrows.

3. Janam Maran theory has got one more draw back, Both Swarag Narak and Janam Maran can't exist because if Swarg Narak are there then Janam maran will not be there because a person can't get Result twice if he did action once. Infact person gets the result of action in this Janam Maran itself. You must be knowing Newton's Third Law that every action has got equal and opposite reaction. We do karam and we get the reaction then why again old action can have reaction in Swarag Nark or in Janam Maran.

Thanks,

Veerpal Singh

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Dear Webmaster Jee,

Just sharing a story...

It happened few years back that one of relative passed away, family was very attached towards relegion and sants often use to visit them. Dead body was taken to Shamshan where it was to be burnt. Being young I was my first experince to enter in Shamshan and I was not aware of all the rituals. I saw some people touching feet of the dead body and some even bowing head.

I was very confused to see all this and not able to decide what I should do. Anyway scene went further when Bhai of Gurdwara was supposed to ardaas. At the end he said 'Waheguru jee daas nu swarag vich sharan dio'.

Certainly after ardas one Sant jee said to Bhai jee that you have done wrong ardaas you should not mention about Swarag and all this, Also Sikh in Gurdwaras should not add Swaragwasi in the name of person.

First time I was happy to see that sant is rasing voice for knowledge but just after few seconds real picture came forward.

Now sant jee said swarag narak is anti gurmat a Sikh goes to Sachkhand of Guru Gobind Singh Jee where Guru jee has got his court.

So Bhai jee should have done ardas for Sachkhand not for swarg. Bhai jee was bit scared now as if he has done a big blunder and due to his ardas my relative will be sent to swarg not to Sachkhand.

Finally Sant Jee did second ardas for Sachkhand. After few days I asked sant jee that swarg narak is not as per gurmat but is Sachkhand after death as per gurmat. and if Sachkhand has court of Guru Gobind singh jee then where is court of SGGS.

His answer: You are kid and don't have knowledge, When I repeated the same question then he said those people who don't respect elders go to Narak.

Thanks,

Veerpal Singh

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(07/08/08)
kulivMdr isMG qy bhuq sfry sfQI

iek icwTI siqkfr Xog s[ gurbÉÈ isMG kflf aÌgfnf jI dy nF aqy Auhnf dI KuwlI icwTI df jvfb

siqkfr Xog gurbÉÈ isMG kflf aÌgfnf jI,

asIN gurmiq tksfl dy kuwJ ividafrQI quhfzy nfl ies sFJI icwTI rfhIN ivcfrF krnIaF cfhvFgy. sfzf mMqv quhfnUM nIvF idKfAuxf nhIN blik swc qy hwk dI gwl krnf hY. jy quhfnUM kuwJ kOVf jfpy qF ies nUM aFvlf, inMm, krylf smJ ky cwb jfxf ikAuNik iewk kvI dy bolF muqfibk:

afAulf, inMm, krylf qy Krf bMdf,

Ëfiekf hor qfsIr pr hor huMdI.

bIqy idn vYWb sfeIt ‘iswK mfrg zft km’ aqy roËfnf spoksmYn ivwc gurbÉÈ isMG kflf aÌÊfnf dI pRo: drÈn isMG (rfgI) dy nF iewk icwTI CpI hY. hflF ik ieh icwTI bhuqf kr ky injI hY pr ies ivwc kuwJ kU nukqy pMQk msilaF bfry vI hn ies kr ky asIN ies bfry afpxy ivcfr ËrUr pyÈ krny cfhvFgy.

1[ pihlf pYrf kflf aÌÊfnf jI qufhzy injI jIvn bfry hY. hflF ik qusIN sMn 2004 ivwc cMzIgVH ivwc kIqI iewk pRYWs kfnÌrMs ivwc ieh mMinaf sI ik quhfnUM pulIs dI nOkrI kridaF irÈvq dy iewk kys ivwc sËf hoeI sI qy Aus vyly jylH jfx qoN bcx vfsqy qusIN knyzf iKsk gey sI. ----------- (not:- ieh aqy ies qrHF dy hor bhuqy dosL jo kflf aPLgfnf qy lgdy hn Auhnf dy jvfb ‘iswK mfrg’ qy mfrc 21, 2004 nUM Cp cuwky hn. Auhnf nUM pVHn leI iewQy kilk kro-sMpfdk)

2[ qusIN qIjy pYry ivwc kihMdy ho ik ‘quhfzy (pRo: drÈn isMG dy) kIqy arQF ivcoN anykF ÈMky dsm duafr ivwc cwkr lfAux lg pey’. sRI mfn jI quhfzf ieh ‘dsm duafr’ ikwQy hY? kI ieh bRfhmxI soc nhIN. quhfzI lÌË dsm duafr dI vrqoN quhfnUM ÈwkI bxfAuNdI hY. kI iswKI iksy dsm duafr nUM mMndI hY? jy qusIN sÌfeI pyÈ krn vfsqy ‘idmfÊ’ nUM dsm duafr kihxf cfho qF vI qusIN bRfhmxI lwÌfËI vrqx kr ky gurmiq dy ‘qnÉfhIey’ ho.

3[ iesy pYry ivwc qusIN pRo[ drÈn isMG dy kMnF vfsqy ‘jQydfr jI dy ÈfhI sRvx sroqF’ lÌË vriqaf hY. kI qusIN jQydfr df ahudf mMndy ho. iswK ivdvfn ieiqhfskfr zf: hrijMdr isMG idlgIr jI ny 1994 ivwc jQydfr dI QF ‘qy ‘muK syvfdfr’ lÌË idwqf sI, ijs nUM spoksmYn ny vI 2003 qoN mgroN vrqxf ÈurU kr idwqf sI pr qusIN ajy vI ‘jQydfr’ df ahudf mMn rhy ho. qusIN ikwQy KVy ho? kI quhfnUM idlgIr jI df idwqf lÌË psMd nhIN. clo qusIN afpxf lÌË hI cux lYNdy pr jQydfr qoN qF Cutkfrf pf lYNdy.

4[ iesy pYry ivwc qusIN pRo drÈn isMG vfsqy “AucycI Kyz KyzidaF qusF sRI akfl qÉq dI jQydfrI qoN iqafg pwqr dy idwqf’ iliKaf hY. ies ivwc iPr qusIN ÈRI aqy jQydfr lÌË vriqaf hY. ieh ihMdU dyvI sRI kI hY, kI ieh akfl qÉq vfsqy shI hY. iPr qusIN ‘AucycI Kyz’ df iËkr kIqf hY. ieh AucycI Kyz ikhVI sI? AuNj kI ies ivwc vI quhfzI eIrKf nhIN nËr af rhI jo qusIN inhory mfr rhy ho?

5[ iesy pYry ivwc qusIN inhorf n mfiraf ik pRo drÈn isMG ny muK syvfdfr rihMdaF koeI AusfrU syD nhIN idwqI qy qÉq ‘qy ÈsqrF dI dovyN vyly pUjf kIqI/krvfeI. ieh shI hY ik pRo: drÈn isMG ny akfl qÉq qoN koeI AusfrU syD nhIN idwqI pr ieh Êlq hY ik Auh ÈsqrF dI pUjf krdf/krvfAuNdf sI. pihlI gwl qF ieh ik Aus dy huMidaF ÈsqrF nUM iqlk nhIN sI idwqf jFdf qy jy Aus dI ÊYr hfËrI ivwc koeI Cotf pujfrI kr igaf hovy qF Aus df kI ksUr? (Auh koeI gRMQI jF pihrydfr nhIN sI). dUjf, Auh qF AunHF idnF ivwc Èsqr dI QF ÈfsqrF dI gwl krdf sI (vyKo: iswK qvfrIÉ, ijld pMjvIN) ies kr ky ÈsqrF dI ihmfieq Auh nhIN sI kr skdf.

6[ pYrf Cy ivwc qusIN pRo: vwloN quhfzI icwTI df jvfb nf dyx qy duK df ieËhfr kr ky inhory qy cuMJF lfeIaF hn qy pyNzU buVHIaF vFg imhxy qy qfhxy mfrn vflI gwl kIqI hY. ieh ivdvfnF vflf qrIkf qF hrigË nhIN hY, gurmiq vflf qF hrigË nhIN hY. ies pYry ivwc qusIN bVy sVy hoey, guwsy Kor, afkV Bry, byadb ijhy lg rhy ho.

7[ pYrf pMj ivwc qusIN afpxIaF isÌqF afp kr rhy ho ik pRo[ ny quhfnUM ‘ieh iÉqfb idwqf’ qy ‘ieMj ikhf’ qy ‘ieh PuMmx lfey’. iewQy quhfnUM Éud dI cfplUsI dI kI loV sI?

8[ iPr aTvyN pYry ivwc qusIN kihMdy ho ik qusIN (Ausy pRo: drÈn isMG, ijs nUM qusIN inMd rhy ho) quhfnuM isropf dyx dI crcf dOrfn, qusIN Aus nUM ieh ikhf sI ik (quhfzy lÌË) “aijhI Bytf dy hwkdfr qusIN ho. quhfzy crnF ivwc XQfÈkq Bytf krdy rihxf sfzy ihwsy dI syvf hY. AultI gMgf nf clfE”. ieh gwl qusIN AunHF vfsqy AudoN khI sI jd (quhfzy kihx muqfibk) Auh gurbfxI df Êlq arQ krdy sn (quhfzf nukqf 6 qy 7), Auh quhfzI iksy gwl df jvfb nhIN sn dyNdy (quhfzf nukqf 4 qy 5). jy qusIN AunHF nUM (quhfzI ilKq muqfibk) dMBI jF clfk smJdy sI qF AusIN ieh ikAuN ikhf ik (quhfzy lÌË) “”aijhI Bytf (isropf) dy hwkdfr qusIN ho. “ kI qusIN AunHF dI ÉuÈfmd kr rhy sI ik izplomysI kr rhy sE. AuNj AunHF df ieh kihxf ik “asl ivwc gMgf aj iswDI cwlx lgI hY” AunHF dI inmrqf hY ijs nUM qusIN aj vI nhIN smJ sky. vYsy quhfnUM ‘isropf’ quhfzI iksy ilKq kr ky nhIN sI idwqf hoxf, AuWQy qF jo vI afvy Aus dy gl ivwc do gË dI lIr (tOhVf dy lÌËF ivc) pfeI jFdI sI. qusIN afp mMndy ho ik quhfzy nfl afey ajmyr isMG nUM vI Auh ‘kpVy dI lIr’ idwqI geI sI. Blf Auh kfhdy vfsqy? kI Aus ny vI koeI ivdvqf vflI ikqfb ilKI sI?

9[ AuNj iewQy gMgf nUM muhfvry ivwc vrqx dI kI loV sI. quhfnUM gMgf nfl bRfhmxI ipafr ikAuN jfg ipaf?

10[ pYrf nMbr 9 ivwc qusIN ieh iliKaf hY ik pRo: drÈn isMG ny vydFqI vwloN quhfnUM (aKOqI qOr qy) pMQ coN Kfrj krn qy vDfeIaF idwqIaF. ieh gwl JUT hY. asIN roË aÉbfr pVHn vfly hF. qusIN ies df koeI sbUq pyÈ kro aYvyN AunHF qy JUTy doÈ nf lfE. ieh mMinaf jf skdf hY ik Auh cup rhy pr vDfeIaF vflI gwl korf JUT hY. (AuNj asIN quhfnUM pMQ coN Kfrj nhIN mMndy. iksy pujfrI nUM aijhf krn df koeI hwk nhIN).

11[ pYrf nMbr 11 ivwc qusIN iliKaf hY ik jd quhfzy byty ny pRo: drÈn isMG dI qfrIÌ kIqI qF qusIN cuwp rhy. bVy izplomyt ho, puwqr nUM vI swc nhIN kih sky. kI ieh dMB nhIN hY?

12[ hF qufhzy pYrf nMbr 12 nfl mYN iewk rfey hF ik pRo[ df kflf vys pfAuxf Êlq hY qy Èfied gurmiq ivroDI vI hY. (Èfied ies kr ky ik mYN ajy ies bfry zUMGI ivcfr nhIN kIqI. AuNj zf idlgIr ny 1921 ivwc nfnkfxy ivwc kqlyafm mgroN iswKF vwloN ros vjoN iewk sfl vfsqy kflIaF pwgF bMnHx nUM rwd kIqf sI pr asIN ajy koeI afÉrI ivcfr nhIN bxf sky.

13[ sfrI icwTI dy pihly bfrF nukqy eIrKf, inhory, iJVkF, imhxy, isTxIaF, hAumY, sfVf qy izplomYitk cflkIaF nfl Bry hoey hn. kI asl gwl qusIN iehI cfhuMdy sI.

isrÌ afÉrI pYry ivwc jf ky qusIN, aYvyN AulJfAU lÌËF ivc, pRo drÈn isMG nUM aKOqI dsm gRMQ dy ivruD lMmf jhfd krn vfsqy pryrxf idwqI hY. kI Auh quhfzy kihx qy aijhf kr rhy hn? iewQy vI qusIN inhory aqy imhxy hI mfr rhy ho.

14[ kflf aÌgfnf jI, cyqy rhy ik jd 1984 ivwc kOm byidl ho geI sI qF iesy drÈn isMG ny jfn qlI ‘qy rwK ky kIrqn kr kr ky KfVkU bolF nfl iswKF ivwc dlyrI BrI sI. iesy kirqn ny ÈhId byaMq isMG qy sqvMq isMG nUM ieMdrf nUM sËf dyx vfsqy iqafr kIqf sI qy AunHF ny drbfr sfihb dI byhurmqI dI sËf idwqI sI. cVHdI klf dy ienHF kIrqnF kr ky Aus nUM (do cIÌ minstrF Bjn lfl qy surjIq rfm brnflf dI imlI Bugq kfrn) hirafxf dI jylH ‘c rihxf ipaf sI.

hux vI Aus ny hI nMdyV ivwc jf ky gurU gRMQ sfihb dI byadbI nUM cYlMj kIqf hY hor iksy ny nhIN qy ies dI ‘sËf’ Bugqx vfsqy vI iqafr hoieaf hY.

kflf aÌgfnf jI ÈIÈy dy GrF ivwc rih ky dUijaF qy pwQr nhIN suwtxy cfhIdy. iewk iKafl rwiKE jy drÈn isMG Êlq krygf qF asIN Aus nUM vI muafÌ nhIN krFgy.

afs hY quhfnUM kuwJ afqm ivcfr krn qy jIa krygf pr jy qusIN ajy vI iËd krogy qF asIN quhfzy nfl crcf krn vfsqy iqafr hF. asIN awj vI quhfzI iewËq krdy hF qy hr swcy pMQ drdI dy ihmfieqI hF.

asIN hF pMQ dy inmfxy syvk

kulivMdr isMG qy bhuq sfry sfQI (spyn, bYljIam aqy XU[ ky[ qoN)

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qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

vIr pfl isMG jIE

gurU Piqh.

vIr pfl, mYN pihlF vI disaf ky mYN koeI soNk nfl mhfjn nhIN ilKdf, ieh isrP myrI iewk pihcfx hY (hMkfr nhIN). sMgq ijvyN mYNnUM khygI AuvyN mYN kbUl krFgf. hF aPsos jrUr hY ky asIN jfq pfq nUM afpxy idloN nhIN inkfl sky hF. kihx nUM asIN hor hF pr pRYktIkl aproc sfzI iblkul vwKrI hY. koeI ivrly-ivrly rwb dy ipafry hoxgy jo ies qoN Aupr AuT sky hn. pMjfb qF Kfs kr ky ies vKryvyN dI mfr hyT hY. pihlF AucIaF jfqF ivwc pMzq hoieaf krdy sn. nIvIN jfq vfilaF nUM mMdr koloN lMGx dI vI ieËfjq nhIN sI huMdI. jy Bul BulyKy lMG jFdy, mMdr dy bol AunHF dy kMnF ivwc pY jFdy qF iskf Gol ky AunHF dy kMnF ivwc pf idqf jFdf sI. KUh awZ hoieaf krdy sn. ihMdosqfn dy kuwJ pRFqF ivwc ajy vI ieho kuwJ vfpr irhf hY. pMjfb vI ienHF ibmfrIaF qoN bicaf hoieaf nhIN hY. ieQy jwt aqy BfipaF df rolf hY. koeI nfmDfrI hY koeI inrMkfrI hY koeI rfDfsuafmI hY koeI stwzI srkl hY koeI imÈnrI hY qy koeI mhfjn hY.

ivigafink nukqy

vIr pfl quhfzy muqfibk mnuwK iesy jnm nfl sbMiDq hY. Aus df ies qoN pihlF jF ies qoN bfad koeI jnm nhIN huMdf. afqmf nF dI koeI cIj nhIN huMdI. mYN kihaf sI nhIN, afqmf hY, Auh amr hY, Auh hmyÈf qoN sI, Auh hmyÈF leI hoeygI. ÈrIr iewk colf hY. colf bdlx dI pRikiraf nUM mOq kihMdy hn. pr asl ivwc mOq jF jnm kuwJ nhIN huMdf asIN glq lPj iesqymfl krdy hF ky Plfxy df jnm hoieaf jF Plfxy dI mOq hoeI. mYN ies sbMD ivwc Law Of Conservation Of Energy dI Audfhrx idqI sI ik Energy Can neither be created Nor It Can Be Distroyed. Total Energy In The Universe Remains Constant. qusIN kihaf afqmf aYnrjI ikvyN ho skdI hY. ikAuNik ieh kMm nhIN kr skdI. pr mYN disaf sI ky aYnrjI kMm krdI hY. iPr qusF kihaf ky kI aYnrjI ilivMg hY jF nfnilivMg. mYN kihaf pihlF mYnUM lIvINg dI jF nfn lIvINg dI pRiBfÈf idE. qusF disaf ky lIvINg df mqlB ijhVI cIj vwDy Puly afpxy afly duafly nfl iraYkt kry. ijs ivwc PYslf lYx dI qfkq hovy. iPr myrf svfl sI vfiers nUM qusIN kI khogy lIvINg jF nfn lIvINg. vfiers pRtInF df bixaf hoieaf pdfrQ hY jdoN hI ies nUM koeI host imldf hY qF ieh aYktIvyt ho jFdf hY. qusF jvfb idqf ky ieh iewk aFzy vFgUM jF iensfn vFgUM hY. iensfn lIvINg hY pr jdoN ieh mr jFdf hY qF ieh nfnlIvINg bx jFdf hY.

vIr pfl jI hux smJo. jd qk vfiers nUM koeI host nhIN imldf qd qk ieh siQr hY nf vwD irhf hY nf Gt irhf hY nf kuwJ Kf irhf hY nf pI irhf hY nf afly duafly nfl iraYkt kr irhf hY. pr jdoN hI ies nUM ies dy lfiek host imilaf qF ieh ijMdf ho igaf. hux ieQy svfl hY host imlx qoN pihlF quhfzI pRiBfÈf muqfibk ieh byjfn sI. pr ieh dso ky ies nUM iks ny Kbr idqI ky hux qyry muqfibk df host hY qy qUM hux ijMdf ho jf. soc ky ieh jvfb dyxf. jy vfiers nUM ieh mihsUs hMdf hY qF ies df mqlB ky Auh host imlx qoN pihlF vI ijMdf sI pr quhfzI pRiBfÈf df iPr kI bxygf. ieh svfl ievyN df hI hY ijvyN iek bIj hY. quhfzI pRIBfÈf Aus nUM byjfn khygI ikAuNik Aus ivwc nf qF koeI hlcl ho rhI hY. nf Auh vwD irhf hY. nf Aus ivwc PYslf lYx dI qfkq hY nf hI Auh koeI iraYkt kr irhf hY Auh sdIaF qk ipaf rhygf. pr jy Aus nUM imtI jF pfxI ivwc riKaf jfvy qF Aus ivwc hlcl ÈurU ho jfvygI. jIvn pUMgrnf ÈurU ho jfvygf qF vIr pfl jI dsxf ky Aus bIj nUM ikvyN pqf lgdf hY ky hux Aus dy cogIrdy Auho ijhy hI hlfq hn ijhVy Aus nUM cfhIdy hn qy Auh hux pUMgr pvy. jy ieh kuwJ mihsUs krn dI qfkq Aus ivwc pihlF qoN hY qF Auh iPr Auh pihlF byjfn ikvyN hoieaf. quhfzI pRiBfÈf qF Aus nUM byjfn bxf rhI hY.

vIr pfl qusF mn (hrt) nUM joiq srUp disaf aqy iesy nUM hI afqmf smJdy ho. jrf gor nfl ies quk vl iDafn idE qy dso kI mn hmyÈf joiq srUp hY jF kdy kdy mUrK vI ho jFdf hY iPkf boil ivgucxf suix mUrK mn ajfx] 15. vIr pfl jI dsx dI Kycl krnI ky gurbfxI ivwc mn dy ikMny srUpF df vrxn hY.

ies df jvfb jrUr dyxf jI

qrlocn isMG

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vIrpfl isMG

Dear Webmaster Jee,

WJKK WJKF

First of all thanks to put the discussion in positive direction and putting certain restrictions so that it does not gets converted to use less arguments.

Second, apologies I am writing letter in English even after your request to write in Punjabi. I have two reasons for thi, first is Sikhmarg is international site and from number of hits section I can see that all most all over globe people hit the site which makes me to write in English next one is personal reason typing in punjabi takes considerable amount of time then in English but I will definitely post next mail in Punjabi.

Prof Mahajan Jee,

WJKK WJKF.

Just before begining my answere lets look this discussion with new angle and vision and see what are we gaining with this. All Cyber Sangat and both of us must gain some knowledge which we can take at our home or atleast must learn some thing good from this.

Lets try to make discussion decent and add dsicipline to it by keeping focus on knowledge. Our discussion should not be like

"Koi bole nirwa koi bole door, Jal kee machlee chare khajoor"

So here is my reply:-

Firstly I have one complaint, you take lot of literal meaning of words instead of keeping focus on the feelings and message behind the words. I can only request that if you are not clear with some point then you can directly mention that please clarify instead of mis-interpretation. This is seen in quite many cases Like interpretation of Prof Saahib Singh's translation, Reply of Harginder Singh jee and now below points :-

1. I mentioned it as Story, I never said it as fake story or real story. Considering it as fake story was your own assumption. From here discussion got diverted that whehter it is real or fake while the real motive of point was "One wrong thing can never correct another wring thing". No doubt those who do discrimination are wrong but by using surname are you going to solve this problem or are going to make this problem more complex. Lets think about solution of this Caste problem instead of adding fuel in it. Another motive of point was why to use surname on sikhmarg atleast over here you and no one else faced this problem. Personally speaking I would like to call you as Prof Singh  intead of Prof Mahajan. Finally I leave it on you whether to use surname or not.

2. You mentioned that thekedaars and sants do not promote surnames and casteism, What you can say about the Sirtaj of all thekedaars Mr Vedanti . I feel his name is sufficient to reflect whetehr he is promoting use of caste and surname. I can give you more examples where few sants only go to house of Jats while few go only to house of Rich people like Malik Bhago intead of staying with poor people like Bhai Lallo. Frankly speaking apart from Guru Nanak I have never seen a sant who is staying with Bhai Lallo, All love ac rooms and big cars and want to stay at home of rich class people. I don't want to name such sants because it can hurt emotions of few people but I hope you are aware of names.

One thought before progressing to next point, I am very young and completed graduation couple of years ago and you are very experienced and reputed Professor. Its young blood so there is feeling of revolution and some times words goes harsh. I don't have any right to say you as an person anti gurmat or a Pandit. Simply apologies for that.

Every person has jyot of one God and that jyot is very pure but however due to thoughts and views that jyot gets malign. It is not the person who is anti gurmat but It is the view and opinion which does not match with Gurmat. In my opinion Karam theory, swarag Narak theory are not as per Gurmat.

3. I  like your home work comment as already mentioned that I am student and you are professor so it goes well. So Professor Jee again I repeat my old complaint. When I say that Energy can not do work on its own then it means that Energy has not got decesion making power  while it is the Living beings which have got decision power and control energy to do the work. Energy is used by Living beings, they take the decesion how to use energy to do the work. This does not means that energy itself is living thing.

Now about virus, your question that whether Virus is living or not is like Egg or human beings are  living or not. Till the time human beings are living and surviving they have features of living thing and after death it is simply matter. Same is with Virus they have got life, death , growth.  Also it will be better if you can give me name of specific Virus because there are many types of Virus. Even if a virus is a of single cell it can have life becaue it has got some feature of living beings like some sort of  food intake, growth, reproduction etc.

4. Professor jee again same complaint your highlighter has not covered my point about Man(heart), Please share your opinion about "Man tu jot saroop hai, apna mool pachan". If man is jot saroop then what about Atma are they different things.

5. You should be happy that I suggested you about Hemkunt not about any river or Naala, There are some sant baba jee who say that Guru Nanak got God in side Veni river then I said to baba jee why dont you also jump into the river to get the God after all you should follow Guru Nanak you are his sikh infact better sikh then others. Or if you can't then I can push you in the well behind the house atleast not God but you may find some Devi jee. That sant jee became so fearful as if I was going to really push him in well and never came back. Now coming to real point when I say that I am following my sants then I mean I don't give only lectures instead I follow there views and try to implement them in real life.

but those who say Karam theory, Swarag Narak, Tap, have they followed this in real life. In reality have they ever seen Swarg Narak, Or do they go to Hemkunt and do tap if not then they don't have any right to give lecture to others. First they themselves should follow their learnings then they should encourage others.

thanks

Veerpal

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avqfr isMG imsLnrI

Bf[ suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy guMm nfm sfQI, siq sRI akfl!

BfeI isiKafrQI jI! afp jI ny “sfzI pMjfb PyrI” bfry pVH ky bVIH qfrIPL kIqI hY pr nfl kuJ sLMky vI kIqy hn ik hrismrq kOr KLflsf ny afpxy nF nfl KLflsf sLbd ikAuN vriqaf hY? aqy afp jI ny ies dI qulnf sMq sLbd nfl kIqI hY ik ijvyN sMq lPjL nF ipCy ilKxf glq hY EvyN hI KLlsf sLbd. vIr jI! sMq sLbd qF ByKI lok afpxy nF qoN pihlF vrqdy hn aqy nfl 108, 1008 afidk izgrIaF vI joV lYNdy hn. iPr zyrydfr bx ky CwqI pRkfr dy pfKMz-krmkFz clf ky afpxI pUjf krvfAuNdy hn aqy afpxIaF vwKrIaF-vwKrIaF mrXfdf clfAuNdy qy clf rhy hn. aijhy ByKI sMqF bfry hI gurbfxI drsfAuNdI hY ik-Eie hir ky sMq nf afKIan bfnfrs ky Tg] (gurU gRMQ) KLflsf arbI df sLbd hY ijs df arQ hY Auh jLmIn jF mulk jo bfdsLfh df hY, ijs AuWqy iksy jgIrdfr df koeI aiDkfr nhIN. ieh bfdsLfh dI pRfprtI hY ies qy koeI tYks nhIN lgdf. ievyN hI gurU goibMd isMG jI ny drsfieaf hY ik KLflsf krqfr dI pRfprtI hY. qfhIEN hI 1999 dI vYsfKI nUM iewk akfl purK qy aquwt ivsLvfsL rwKx vfilaF nUM KLflsf ikhf jo krqfr dI pRfprtI hn aKOqI jm afidk ieMnFH qy tYks nhIN lgf skdf. iesy krky ieh bolf vI idwqf ik-vfihgurU jI kf KLflsf] vfihgurU jI kI PLiqh] gurbfxI ivKy vI ieh sLbd ievyN vriqaF hY-khu kbIr jn Bey KLflsy pyRm Bgq ijh jfnI](gurU gRMQ) Bfv pRymf BgqI nUM jfnx vfly KLflsy ho gey. so KMzy dI phul lY ky iswK KLflsf khfAux ivwc Pwkr krn lwgy. afp jI qF KLflsf pRmfqmF nUM mMndy ho pr krqfr nUM iksy qKwls dI loV nhIN Auh iksy iewk nF QF, jfq brfdrI, aqy dysL kfl df mQfj nhIN. KLflsy df sfjnF idvs mnfieaf jFdf hY pr pRmfqmF df nhIN. ies krky jy koeI ieh smJky ik mY krqfr vfihgurU df hF  qy KLflsf sLbd afpxy nF ipCy ilK lYNdf hY qF koeI gunfh nhIN lgdf, iksy sMq zyrydfr, sMpRdfeI df qF nhIN ilKdf Aus nfloN qF cMgf hY. iPr afpjI ny iekwlI hrismrq kOr KLflsf bfry hI ikAuN iliKaf hY jd ik hor vI anykF iswK hrismrq kOr qoN pihlF hI ieh sLbd vrq rhy hn. Kfs krky amYrknF qoN isMG sjy mfeI BfeI ieh sLbd vrq ky gurU vfihgurU dy hI hox df mfx mihsUs kr rhy hn. KLflsf sLbd cVHdI klf aqy KLflseI ivlwKxqf df pRqIk hY ijs nfl KlflseI gux cyqy afAuNdy hn. iewk tfeIm sI jd jkrIey ny guV sLbd kihx qy pfbMdI lf idwqI sI ik guV qoN gurU cyqy afAuNdf hY, BylI kho qF ik iswKF ivwcoN gurU dI siprt hI Kqm ho jfvy pr iswKF ny anykF qsIhy sihMidaF hoieaF vI guV kihxf nhIN Cwizaf. bfkI KLflsf sLbd nF ilKx bfry gurU df ikqy vI hukm nhIN blik pfKMzvfd Cwzx leI hukm hY.

bfkI ieMzIaf dy idwlHI dy myn bws stYNz dI hflq bfry jo hrismrq kOr KLflsf jI ny ibafn kIqf hY kI ieh JUT hY? aijhf ibafn qF ieMglYNz dI mhFrfxI vI dy cuwkI hY. qusIN ieh vI iliKaf hY ik ieh ieMzIaf sfzy gurUaF pIrF pUrbjF dI DrqI hY. kI iekwlI ieMzIaf hI gurUaF pIrF dI DrqI hY? bfkI DrqIaF kIhdIaF hn? gurU jI qF smwucy sMsfr nUM hI afpxI DrqI mMndy hn-jfhr pIr jgq gur bfbf. (Bf[ gu[) kI jgq iekwly ieMzIaf nUM hI ikhf hY? vIr jI! swc nUM swc kihxf inMidaf nhIN. sfzf bws awzy dI gMdI hflq bfry ilKxf kdficq smuwcy Bfrq vfsqy nhIN sgoN Bfrq srkfr df iDafn EDr idvfAux vfsqy hY. dyKo! rfjnIqk lIzr srkfr dIaF idwqIaF grFtF afp hI hVwp jFdy hn. amIr qF kfly DMn nfl hr QF aYsLF krdy hn pr qklIPF qF aFm jnqf nUM hI JwlxIaF pYNdIaF hn qF hI mMnI geI gurUaF pIrF dI DrqI ieMzIaf krwpt lokF ny gMdI kIqI hoeI hY. jy EQy sB kuJ TIk huMdf qF lok Bfrq Cwz ky ivdysLF nUM ikAuN dOVdy? vIr jI! sfrI DrqI hI rwb dI hY pr ikqy inXmF df pflx krn vfly lokF ny ies dI suMdrqf nUM brkrfr rwiKaf hY aqy ikqy KudgrjL lokF ny ies qy gMdgI dy Zyr bKyry hoey hn. so vIr jI! quhfzf ieDr iDafn idvfAux leI bhuq bhuq DMnvfd! gur PLiqh] 

avqfr isMG imsLnrI-510-432-5827

(04/08/08)
suirMdr isMG

S. Gurdev Singh Ji, I realy appericate your articals regarding so called saints.

Sarjinder Singh

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(04/08/08)
mihMdr isMG

Veer Amrinder Singh Ji,

WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa

WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh

Thank you, at least you found my question interesting enough to answer unlike Veer Gurcharan Singh Ji, he found it like ‘Heer’ sang by Asa Singh Mastana. kmfl aY…

I really think it was a genuine question.

You wrote:

Everything that goes on here is according to Akal Purakh’s Hukam, laws of nature. Those laws affect everyone the same. However, everyone lives in a different environment. If someone lives in a heavily industrial area, then the pollution and the contaminations will affect the person. Traffic accidents occur every day and kill thousands of people. Again, this is result of poor regulations, conditions of the roads, safety features of the vehicles, etc. Millions of people are dying because of hunger. But if those people are fed, which is a basic necessity of life, and then they will not die because of hunger.

So what I am trying to say is that everyone lives under the same rules, but different environment and hence has different lifestyles. Death has a cause. But the lifestyle we live definitely plays a role, for example the food we eat, where we live, etc.

Regarding age, let us look back in history. Sri Chand lived an extremely long life, 149 years from 1494-1643. However, even in this long 149 year age, he did not understand Guru Nanak’s philosophy. On the other hand, Guru Har Krishan ji only lived for a little less than 8 years, July 1656 to March 1664. Nevertheless, he not only understood Guru Nanak’s teachings but also was received Gur Gaddi. Likewise, shaheed Baba Deep Singh was 80 years old at the time of shaheedee, on the other hand Shote Sahabjaday were less than 10 years old at the time of shaheedee. Both are shaheeds and no doubt that they understood Guru Nanak’s philosophy. So from these examples, we can say that age is not a very important factor in understanding Guru’s message.

Understanding Guru’s message can take only a second, or even after hundreds of years one may not understand it. It all depends on whether we are ready to admit that what we were doing before was wrong and what Guru is saying is correct.

I agree with all written above. But I feel my question is still unanswered. Here I put it again:

A child who dies after few seconds of his/her birth hasn’t experienced anything in life. That child hasn’t learnt what Guru’s message was. Also, we cannot compare any ordinary 8 years old child with Guru Harkrishan ji. Any ordinary 8 year child cannot learn each and everything about SGGS and its teachings.

A child can die (few seconds after born) with any disease inherited from parents which again is not his/her fault. My question is/was:

Will that child be given another chance to unite with God Almighty?

If no, then this is a kind of discrimination but Akal Purkh is Nirvair. And we all know that in Mool Mantar:

ÃÄ siqnfmu krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]

Had I put the same question to Professor Tarlochan Singh Mahajan Ji, his answer would’ve been quick and easy that it was a punishment of his/her past life and he/she will be given another chance another time because he believes in Karma Theory. But I brought this question mainly to you, Veer Gurcharan Singh and to Veer Richipal Singh because you don’t believe in Karma theory. And I also NOW (from last 5-6 years) don’t believe in Karma theory, but because it is a genuine question, I wanted satisfactory answer.

Thank you for replying. If you can think and share something more please do so, if you’re busy then it’s ok.

Thank you for your time, Veerji

Regards,

Guru Fateh

Mohinder Singh

Rochester NY

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qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

vIrpfl isMG jIE

gurU Piqh.

quhfzy ilKy anusfr ‘Firstly, you have placed a very good story that why you use surname but sorry I don't have any sympathy with you’ vIrf myiraf, mYN jfq dy sbMD ivwc afpxI asl Gtnf sunfeI, afpUM tfeIp kIqI, qusIN ies nUM khfxI ds rhy ho. bVf aPsos hoieaf pVH ky. hF, mYN quhfzy qoN hmdrdI df ktorf nhIN mMg irhf ik myry ktory ivwc hmdrdI pfE, qusF qF aYvyN nrfj ho rhy ho. aOr ‘mhfjn’ ds ky mYN koeI PKr nhIN kr irhf afpxI jfq qy. ies qoN Ault hr QF nfmoÈI jrUr JylxI pYNdI hY. aOr hux qk Jl irhf hF. ijvyN ky qusI ies nUM khfxI hI ds rhy ho, ies qoN vD myry leI nfmoÈI ko hoeIgI.

        dusrI nfmoÈI ijhVI ky pihlI nfmoÈI qoN vI keI guxf ijafdf hY Auh ieh k qusF mYnUM gurmiq dy Ault ds rhy ho. qhfzy ilKy anusfr ‘people like you who are anti gurmat.’ BfeI sfihb quhfnUM pqf nhIN sfied gurmiq dy Ault clx vfly nUM kI sjf imldI hY

jYsf bIjY so luxY krm iehu Kyqu.. aikrqGxf hir ivsiraf jonI Brmyqu.. ô.. {pMnf ÷úö}

ies sjf nUM qF qusIN mMndy hI nhIN, nf hI krm mMno. nf hI jonI mMno. ies leI bVy soKy qrIky mYnUM kih idMdy ho ik ‘mhfjn gurmiq dy Ault’. agoN qoN ieh sbd ikRpf krky iDafn nfl vrqxf jI. kox gurmiq dy Ault hY kox nhIN ieh PYslf krn df hwk quhfnUM iks ny idqf hY. ikRpf krky spÈt ibafn krnf jI.

quhfzf aglf svfl ‘I would have agreed if you would have put your surname and done revolt against fake saints and thekedaars who promote caste system and don't want to Sikh to unite’ srdfr sfihb jI qusIN BulyKo ivwc ho, pKMzI sMq aqy cogy vfly vI afpxy nfm mgr jfq nhIN lfAuNdy aqy quhfzy vFgUM isiKaf vI ieho idMdy hn ky nfm mgr jfq nf lfE.

quhfzf aglf svfl:  On one side you say that you don't want to leave discussion and then in next mail you post a series of questions to be answered from all. If you want to leave discussion then take a firm decesion and leave it why are you in dwindling position.

qusF TIk iliKaf mYN ieh izskÈn bMd kr dyxI sI myry vIr jsbIr isMG astRylIaf jI dy khy anusfr. pr quhfzy sMq jI (s[ gurcrn isMG jI) mYNnUM izgrIaF dy rhy hn ies leI nf cfhuMdy hoey vI quhfzy nfl vfrqflfp krnI pY rhI hY. afpxy sMq jI (s[ gurcrn isMG jI) jI nfl slfh kr lYxIN ky kdoN ieh vfrqflfp bMd krnI hY AudoN hI bMd kr idqI jfeygI. myrIaF AuglF vI drd krn lgIaF hn quhfzIaF icTIaF dy jvfb idMdy hoey kI-borz qy tfeIp kr-kr ky.

quhfzf aglf svfl:

qusIN vI afpxy sMq gurcrn isMG jI vFg mYNnUM izgrIaF dyxIaF ÈurU kr idqIaF hn. PANDIT is teaching physics  qusIN iewk gl not krnI jI, qusIN ijnIaF mrjI izgrIaF idE koeI hrj nhIN pr koeI vI izgrI dyx qoN pihlF rwb nUM Xfd kr ilaf kro. mYN qF nrfj nhIN hoxf pr myrf pRBU nrfj ho skdf hY ikAuNik Auh afpxy BgqF dI lfj hmyÈf qoN rwKdf afieaf. jy qusF mYnUM pMizq bxf hI idqf hY iPr pMizq qoN qusIN sfieMs dy iksy svfl bfry kI afs krdy ho? ikRpf krky ieh ibafn jrUr krnf ky pMizq ikvyN quhfzy iPijks dy svflF df jvfb dy skdf hY. qusF pihlF iliKaf sI ik aYnrjI kMm nhIN kr skdI ikAuNik ies ivwc jfn nhIN huMdI. mYN quhfnUM kurYkt kIqf sI ky aYnrjI kMm kr skdI hY. qusIN mMn gey sI ky aYnrjI kMm krdI hY pr qusF agy disaf hI nhIN ik aYnrjI byjfn huMdy hoey vI ikvyN kMm kr lYNdI hY? jd qk vIr jIE qusIN ieh Auqr nhIN idEgy mYN quhfnUM iPijks agy ikvyN pVHf skdf hF. QoVf ijhf hor homvrk dy irhf hF. afs hY idl lf ky krogy aqy nrfj nhIN hovygy. aqy nrfj ho ky mYNnUM hor izgrIaF nhIN pRDfn krogy.

hom-vrk: jIv ivigafn ivwc iewk vfiers huMdf hY  vfiers sYwl qoN bfhr pRotInF df bixaf iewk Tos byjfn pdfrQ hY pr sYwl dy aMdr jf ky ijMdf ho jFdf hY. qF vfiers nUM kI khogy jIiv jF inrjIv! hF dsx dI Kycl krnI ky ies vfiers nUM jIv dI lfeIn ivwc rwKogy jF inrjIv dI lfeIn ivc?

myrI pRÈnfvlI ivcoN kyvl iewk pRÈn df Auqr qusIN idqf ik sfry sMq cfhy Auh pKMzI hn cfhy nhIN (kI Auh Tg hn?)

quhfzy Auqr dI smJ nhIN af rhI ik qusIN hF kih rhy ho jF nF kih rhy ho ikRpf kry klIar krnf jI.

qusIN srdfr gurcrn isMG jI horF nUM sMq kih hY. cMgf hY. pr Auh sMq QoVy koVy hn.

svfl: qusF kihf ‘I know for you sant should wear chola and long kachaa and keep legs naked also sant should be in big car and lot of followers’ quhfnUM ikvyN pqf ky mYNnUM coly vfly nMgIaF lqF vfly sMq psMd hn. mYnUM qF ieh vI nhIN pqf ky asl ivwc aslI-sMq kox ho skdf hY. Aus dI Xogqf kI hY. suKmnI sfihb ivwc sMqF dI bhuq mihmf hY aqy sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc vI asl sMqF dI bVI Aupmf hY pr kox dsygf ky sMq kox hY kox nhIN qF vIr pfl isMG jI ikRpf krky mYnUM qusIN ds skdy ho qF dso. pr jrf soc smJ ky.

ikRpf krky dso jI

qusIN mYNnUM hymkuMt sfihb ivKy Byj rhy ho jp qp krn leI. mYN jrUr jfxf psMd krdf pr AuQy sfl ivwc iqMn mhIny hI rihaf jf skdf hY. TMz bhuq hY. qusIN mYNnUM kmrf bMd krn dI slfh dy rhy ho. mYN jrUr krdf pr iPr quhfzy nfl vfrqflfp iks ny krnI sI. aOr qusI mYNnUM iPijks pVHfAux vflf pMizq ikvyN kihxf sI. vIr myiraf ieh sB krmF dI Kyz hY ik mYN qy qusIN AulJ rhy hF sbdF dy jfl ivc.

vIr jIE mYN kdy iesy sMq df ijkr nhIN kIqf iPr qusIN myry nfl ieh hfr isMGfr ikAuN kr rhy ho For people like Prof Mahajan sant are those who wear cholas, who have got deras, who have got Atma and heart has different things, who have naked legs, who are owners of relegion and who are against democracy and equality and who can do some chamatkar. Auqr jrUr dyxf jI quhfzy Auqr dI AuzIk rhygI.

qrlocn isMG

(sMpfdkI not:- ikAuNik ipCly krmF dI gwl vflI crcf iksy inqIjy qy nhIN phuMc rhI ies leI asIN cfhuMdy hF ik ies nUM iewQy hI bMd kr idwqf jfvy. jo jLrUrI smJx vflI gwl hY Aus bfry crcf kIqI jfvy. Auh jLrUrI gwl hY ik, kI afqmf aqy mn do vwKrIaF cIjLF hn jF iek hI hY? sfieMs ivc jIv aqy inrjIv dI pRIBfsLf. byjLfn aYnrjLI ikvyN kMm krdI hY? mrn qoN bfad kI huMdf hY? kI srIr ivcoN koeI afqmf inkldI hY jF mrn dy nfl hI sfrf kuwJ Kqm ho jFdf hY? ikrpf krky iehnf bfry isrP sfieMs dy aDfr qy hI gwlbfq kIqI jfvy aqy gurbfxI dIaF pMgqIaF nf vrqIaF jfx. jdoN ieh nukqy spsLt ho gey iPr ipCly krmf vflI gwl vI spsLt ho jfvygI. ies ivsLy bfry muwK qOr qy vIrpfl isMG aqy qrlocn isMG mhfjn ivckfr hI gwlbfq hovygI. hor vI koeI sieMs df ividafrQI jF pRo: vI sLfml ho skdf hY. afm pfTk ies nUM pVHn qwk hI sImq rwKx. jy kr ho sky qF vIrpfl isMG nUM pMjfbI ivc ilKxf cfhIdf hY qF ik sfry pfTkF dI smJ ivc af sky. iek gurU hI pUrf hY aqy afpF sfry ieQy aDUry aqy sfDfrn gurU ky isWK ividafrQI hI hF koeI lIzr nhIN hF ies leI sB nUM iek dUjy pRqI sLbdfvlI cMgI hI vrqxI cfhIdI hY. gurU jI ny gurbfxI ivc sKLq sLbd bhuqy krky rfjy, vjLIr aqy muwK lIzrF bfry hI vrqy hn afm afdmI leI nhIN)

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mihMdr isMG

mfnXog vIr gurcrn isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf,

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

mYnUM lwigaf sI ik qusI koeI cMgf suliJaf hoieaf jvfb idAuNgy pr qusI afpxI kfblIaq dy muqfibk iblkul jvfb nhI idwqf. ho skdf hY ik quhfnUM koeI kfhlI-kfhlI `c koeI cMgf jvfb suiJaf hI nf hovy. mYnUM quhfzy qoN ies qrHF dy jvfb dI iblkul AumId nhI sI. ies dI jgHf qusI mYnUM koeI do-cfr gurbfxI dIaF pMgqIaF ds idMdy mY Aus dI ivafiKaf GuruGrantDarpan.com qy pVH lYxI sI.

pr KYr…………awj kl ivdvfnf df hfl ieh hY ik ijs nUM vI do-cfr motIaF-motIaF gwlF dI smJ af jFdI hY jF qy Auh zyrf Kol lYNdf hY jF iPr Auh dUsiraF nUM taunt krn lwg pYNdf hY. qusI vI bRfhmxf dI qrHF igaFn dI koeI gwl qy dwsI nhI Aultf mYnUM ieDr AuDr vrky Prohlx dI zIAUtI lgf idwqI. ieh kMm quhfzy leI ijafdf afsfn hY. quhfnUM pqf hY ik qusI ikQy kI ilwiKaf hY. qusI afpxI purfxI text nUM copy-paste krky dUbfrf Cpvf idAu. ies nfl quhfzf vI kMMm asfn ho jfeygf qy mYnUM vI afpxy svfl df jvfb Èfied iml jfey.

qusI mYnUM puiCaF ik mYnUM bfkI sfry iswK isDFqF dI smJ pY geI hY? iesdf dy jvfb ivwc mYN ieh hI khFgf ik ieh statement ik mYnUM sfry iswK isDFqf dI smJ af geI hY, sfied mYN sfrI Aumr nf kr pFvf.

myrf svfl vI quhfnUM ieh hI hY. kI quhfnUM sfry iswK isDFq dI smJ pY geI hY?

quhfzf idwqf home work mYN kr irhf hF. vYsy qy mYN salvation here & now pihly vI suxI hoeI hY quhfzy kihx qy iewk vfr hor ieh Audm kr lvFgf. qusIN vI myrI bynqI qy vIr jI df iewk lecture jrUr sunxf.

Ausdf df title hY:

imwT bolVf! ! ! ! !

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh

mihMdr isMG

rfcYWstr, inAU Xfrk

585-503-5328

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srvjIq isMG

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

afp jI ny afpxy pwqr rfhI mYnUM qF sihj ivwc rihx df AupdyÈ idwqf hY pr afp jI sihj df lV Cwz rhy ho. ajyhf ikE? afp ny iliKaf hY quhfzf gurcrn isMG. vIr jI gurcrn isMG sfzf jF quhfzf nhI, afpxf hY. gurmuK ipafiraF `c myr-qyr ikvy af igaf? iekwlf gurcrn isMG hI myrf nhI qusI vI myry afpxy ho. afp jI dI jfxkfrI leI bynqI krf suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI vI myrf afpxf hY. hF ivcfr df mwq-Byd ho skdf hY.

qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI, sfrI bfxI kivqf ivwc rcI geI hY. ies dy asl Bfv qF rcx vfly hI jfxdy hn. pRo sfihb isMG jI ny gurbfxI dI ivafkrx nUM smJ ky ies dy arQ kIqy hn. afpf AunHF qo agvfeI lYxI hY. pRo sfihb isMG jI ny sfnUM smJfAux leI buhq QFeI spwÈt krn df vI AuWdm kIqf hY. pr hr Èbd dy nfl ieh sMBv nhI. jdo ividafrQI nUM isDFq dI smJ af jfvy qF Auh sfry svfl afp hI hwl kr lYdf hY. AudfhrxF qF isDFq nUM smJfAux leI hI idqIaF jFdIaF hn. AudfhrxF isDFq nhI huMdIaF ikAuNik ieh afm lokF dI ijMdgI `c hI idwqIaf jFdIaf hn. asI iksy gory nUM afpxy aflUaF vfly prOTy bfry dwsxf hovy qF jy asI pIjy dI Audfhrx dy ky smJfvF gy qF Auh sfzI gwl nUM CyqI smJ jfvygf. pr prOTf pIjf nhI hY.

iesy qrF hI guru jI ny smfj ivwc vrq rhy vrqfry nUM vrq ky afpxf nvF isDFq smJfieaf hY. pr sfzf duKFq ieh hY ik asI hwQ dI AuglI nUM hI cMd smJ bYTy hF.

mY afpxy iewk pwqr ivwc do ÈbdF df ijkr kIqf sI Èfied afp jI ny dy iDafn ivwc nf afieaf hovy.

gUjrI] aMiq kfil jo lCmI ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] srp join vil vil aAuqrY] 1] arI bfeI goibd nfmu miq bIsrY] rhfAu] aMiq kfil jo iesqRI ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] bysvf join vil vil aAuqrY] 2] aMiq kfil jo liVky ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] sUkr join vil vil aAuqrY] 3] aMiq kfil jo mMdr ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] pRyq join vil vil aAuqrY] 4] aMiq kfil nfrfiexu ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] bdiq iqlocnu qy nr mukqf pIqMbru vf ky irdY bsY] 5] 2] {pMnf 526}

ies pfvn Èbd dI qIjI pMgqI aqy afKrI pMgqI nUM ivcfro.

aMiq kfil jo liVky ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] sUkr join vil vil aAuqrY] 3]

aMiq kfil nfrfiexu ismrY aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY] bdiq iqlocnu qy nr mukqf pIqMbru vf ky irdY bsY] 5] 2]

ies Èbd ivwc Bgq iqrlocn jI afpxy vlo isrP iewk pMgqI hI ilKdy hn "arI bfeI goibd nfmu miq bIsrY] rhfAu]" rhfAu vflI ieh pMgqI hI gurimq dy isDFq nUM spwÈt krdI hY. bfkI qF pRclq sfKIaF df hI buhq sMKyp ivwc vrnx kIqf igaf hY ikAuik Aus smy ieh hI mMinaf jFdf sI ky jo mrn vyly puwqr nUM cyqy krdf hY Auh sUr dI XUnI ivwc pvygf aqy jo iesqrI nUM cyqy krdf hY Auh vysvf dI XUnI ivwc pvygf…. Bgq jI ny AupdyÈ idwqf ik qusI afp hI ieh kihMdy ho ky ajfmlu ny afKrI smy afpxy puwqr nfrfiex nUM cyqy kIqf jF avfj mfrI qF Aus df pfr Auqfrf ho igaf sI. pr qIjI pMgqI ivwc puwqr nUM Xfd krn vflf sUr dI XUnI ivwc pYNdf hY. Xfd dono pMgqIaF ivwc puwqr nUM kIqf igaf hY. iewk sUr dI XUnI ivwc jf pYdF hY qyN dUjy df pfr-Auqfrf ho jFdf hY. ajyhf ikE?

ies svfl df jvfb lwBx leI sfnUM ajfmlu bfry jfxkfrI hoxI jrUrI hY. ihMdU imiQhfs ivwc ieh iËkr imldf hY ky iewk ajfmlu nfm df iewk pfpI sI. ijs dy puqwr df nfm nrfiex sI. jdo ajfmlu ny afpxy aMqm smy afpxy puqwr nrfiex nUM avfj mfrI qF axjfxy rwb ny ieh smJ ilaf ky ieh qF mYnUM hI Xfd kr irhf hY. ieh qF afpxf Kfs bMdf hY.

hux agly Èbd nUM ivcfro.

m: 1 iewk dJih iewk dbIaih ieknf kuqy Kfih] ieik pfxI ivic AustIaih ieik BI iPir hsix pfih] nfnk eyv n jfpeI ikQY jfie smfih] 2] {pMnf 648}

kI gurbfxI ivwc afpf ivroDI Èbd hn?

iek hvflf hor

afip nrfiexu klf Dfir jg mih prvirXAu]

aqy

so muKu jlAu ijqu khih Tfkuru jonI] ó]

hyT ilKy sbd dy kI arQ hoxgy.

sqjuig qY mfixE CilE bil bfvn BfieE] qRyqY qY mfixE rfmu rGuvMsu khfieE]

duafpuir ikRsn murfir kMsu ikrqfrQu kIE] AugRsYx kAu rfju aBY Bgqh jn dIE]

kI ieQy XugF nUM mfnqf idwqI geI hY? kI Bwt kfl jI ieh kih rhy hn ky gurU jI ny bl rfjy nUM Twigaf sI? jy guru jI hI rfm cMd sn qF hyT ilKI pMgqI df kI kIqf jFvy?

pfNzy qumrf rfmcMdu so BI afvqu dyiKaf Qf] rfvn syqI srbr hoeI Gr kI joie gvfeI QI] 3]

ginkf aqy pUqfnf df ijkr vI gurbfxI ivwc kIqf igaf hY.

‘qfrIly ginkf ibn rUp kuibjf ibafiD ajfmlu qfrIaly]’

‘hir hir krq pUnqf qrI]’

kI ienHf nUM mfnqf idwqI geI hY? nhI! ieh qF pRclq sfKI nUM lYky smJfAux df iewk ZMg hY. ik qusI afp hI ieh kihMdy ho ky pUqnf qr geI sI gnkf qr geI sI. qusI qF AunHF nflo cMgy ho. qusI qF Auh mfVy krm nhI kIqy jo puqnf jF gnkf ny kIqy sn. pRmfqmf nUM jy qusI Xfd krogy qF qusI vI qr jfEgy.

qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI, bynqI hY ky mY grV purfx df hvflf dy ky koeI gunfh nhI sI kIqf, mY qF afp jI nUM ieÈfrf kIqf sI. ijs nUM afp jI smJ nhI sky. mYnUM vI grV purfx bfry koeI jfxkfrI nhI sI. isrP nfm hI suixaf hoieaf sI. pr jdo afp piVaf qF mY hYrfn rih igaf ky sfzy dyÈ vfsIaF df Drm-krm kI hY. mY afp jI nUM iewk vfr Pyr bynqI krdf hF ky grV purfx aqy ihMdU imiQhfs koÈ nUM pVn dI Kycl jrUr kr lYxI jI.

afp jI ny jo svfl kIqy hn AunHF df jvfb hF/nF ivwc mMgxf jfiej nhI hY. ikANik iksy vI svfl df jvfb hF ivwc vI aqy nF ivwc shI qy glq sfbq kIqf jf skdf hY. hYrfnI mYnUM ieh vI hoeI hY ik afp jI iewk pfsy qF punr jnm dy guMJldfr ivÈy bfry lyK ilK rhy ho qy dUjy pfsy ieh puCdy ho, kI iksy kfrj leI ardfs krn dI mhwqqf hY? awtk diraf df hvflf dy ky ies df jvfb hF vI ho skdf hY aqy srsf ndI df hvflf dy ky nF vI ho skdf hY. pfvn bfxI dI pMgqI, ‘qf kAu ibGnu n koAU lfgy jf kI pRB afgy srdfis]’ jF ‘ivxu boilaf sBu ikCu jfxdf iksu afgY kIcY ardfis]’ df hvflf vI idwqf jF skdf hY. ieh hI kfrn hY ik BfeI avqfr isMG jI aqy BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI ny hF/nF ivwc jvfb dyx dI bjfey isDFq df ijkr kIqF hY.

pRo: qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI, afp jI ienHF svflf nUM ivsQfr nfl ilKo qF jo pfTk ienHF dy jvfb hF/nF ivwc dy skx jF qusI ienHF dy jvfb hF/nF ivwc afp idE qF jo pfTk afp dy jvfbF qyN afpxy ivcfr pRgt kr skx.

afdr sihq

srvjIq isMG

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(03/08/08)
jsbIr isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Sardar Sahib,

Two articles which appear on Sikh Marg demands attention from readers. One is from sardar Sarabjit Singh and other one is from sardar Ikvaak Singh. Both articles are nice. Sardar Sarabjit Singh’s article is realy good and deserves special praise. Sardar Sahib has forgotten other Guru "Pavan Guru (air Guru) mentioned in Japji Sahib. Shabad is Guru and Pavan is Guru. If we go algebric method a=b=c. Then it means Shabad=Pavan= Guru Nanak and so on. Algebra is different than spirtuality. Here pavan and Shabad is Guru because without both life is not possible and there are different in structure. Sardar Ikvak Singh mentioned Guru Gobind Singh’s wording Khalsa mero Satgur Pura" I do not know where it is present perhaps Sarab loh granth and I have not seen this yet. In Guru Granth Sahib while defining a Sikh guru ji says’, "Jann Nanak Dhur Mangey Tiss Gursikh kee jo Aaap Japey Avreyh naam Japavey". When we talk about Guru Panth or Guru Sangat or Guru Panj Piarey, Guru must be present in them the form real Gian which is present in Guru Granth Sahib. There is only and only one Guru. All Guru’s are one jyot. Sikhs also gave importance of Guru’s bodies and they were the same as others, same hands, same arms, same blood the difference was Shabad or Gian.

I disagree with Sardar Trilochan Singh regarding Survey questions, he put on this site. Kot Madhey koi who follows truthful path and where will he stand in this kind of survey. Regarding Sants his question is wrong. All sants are good not a single one is bad but who are sants. Sakhi Bhai Mula- Then Mula ‘s wife thought he is the same saadh who had taken my husband earlier and she said that Mula was not there.

Tozek-e-Jahangiri , There livid a hindu named Arjun.........People from various sections were coming to them " Furthermore Bhagat and Sant are not different they are synonymous and you can read Bani Bhagat Ravidaas jeo kee etc etc. There is no Bhekh of a sant and people who call themselve sants are fake. Earlier my article on Bhagat Puran Singh was published on sikh marg and no one objected. I have also not read a single objection against Bhagwant Singh Dilwari entitled as saint of Tapovan

Regarding the ongoing discussion I would like to say we are missing important concept of sikhi which is Bhaiey or Bhauu. What guru jee says about it

Bhaiey Bin Bharam na Kateyeae Naam na Lageyeae Piar Satgur tey Bhaiey upjey paieyey Mokh Duar (Page 1288)

Guru jee did use strong language against sakitts and never said us to use same language against fellow sikhs

Ikk Phika naa Glaye........

Nanak Phikka Bolleyeye Tan Man .......

Gursikhan Ekko Piar Gurmittan Putan Bhaiyaan.....

Bhul Chuk Muaf.

regards,

Jasbir Singh

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(03/08/08)
amirMdr isMG

Dear Mahinder Singh Ji,
Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa
Wahe Guru Ji Ke Fathe

You have asked very interesting questions and I will do my best to answer them, but I am no scholar.

Everything that goes on here is according to Akal Purakh’s Hukam, laws of nature. Those laws affect everyone the same. However, everyone lives in a different environment. If someone lives in a heavily industrial area, then the pollution and the contaminations will affect the person. Traffic accidents occur every day and kill thousands of people. Again, this is result of poor regulations, conditions of the roads, safety features of the vehicles, etc. Millions of people are dying because of hunger. But if those people are fed, which is a basic necessity of life, and then they will not die because of hunger.

So what I am trying to say is that everyone lives under the same rules, but different environment and hence has different lifestyles. Death has a cause. But the lifestyle we live definitely plays a role, for example the food we eat, where we live, etc.

Regarding age, let us look back in history. Sri Chand lived an extremely long life, 149 years from 1494-1643. However, even in this long 149 year age, he did not understand Guru Nanak’s philosophy. On the other hand, Guru Har Krishan ji only lived for a little less than 8 years, July 1656 to March 1664. Nevertheless, he not only understood Guru Nanak’s teachings but also was received Gur Gaddi. Likewise, shaheed Baba Deep Singh was 80 years old at the time of shaheedee, on the other hand Shote Sahabjaday were less than 10 years old at the time of shaheedee. Both are shaheeds and no doubt that they understood Guru Nanak’s philosophy. So from these examples, we can say that age is not a very important factor in understanding Guru’s message.

Understanding Guru’s message can take only a second, or even after hundreds of years one may not understand it. It all depends on whether we are ready to admit that what we were doing before was wrong and what Guru is saying is correct.

If anyone else can provide more information about this question, I would be very thankful as well since I have mentioned I am no scholar.

Regards,
Amrinder Singh

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(03/08/08)
suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

s[ avqfr isMG jI imÈnrI.

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

quhfzf lyK ‘myrI pMjfb PyrI pVHn’ nUM imilaf. bVf cMgf ligaf. ievyN lg irhf sI ijvyN asIN Kud pMjfb dI sYr krdy hoeIey.

srdfr sfihb jy qusIN mfieMz nf kro qF mYN kuwJ puCx dI gusqfKI kr irhf hF.

asI sfry sihmq hF ky sMq sbd jo afpxy nfm nfl vrqdy hn glq hY. ieh 100% TIk hY ky sfzy kol koeI ksvwtI nhIN ky prwK skIey ky kox sMq hY kox nhIN.

mYN quhfzy qoN iPr puCxf cfhuMdf hF ijvyN sMq sbd iesqymfl krnf TIk nhIN huMdf qF kI Kflsf Èbd afpxy nfm nfl ilKxf TIk hY jF glq. ikAuNik Kflsy dI Aupmf gurU jIaF ny bhuq kIqI hY.

jo koeI vI Kflsf sbd iesqymfl krdy hn qF kI Auh 100% Kfls huMdy hn?

hrismrq kOr Kflsf jI jdoN idlI bs stYNz afey qF ‘mwKI, mwCr, gMdgI dy Zyr aqy Puwt pfQF qy suwqy aqy ivlk rhy lok dyKy qF hrismrq kOr Kflsf kihMdI iCwt! ieh ieMzIaf hY, hUM! ! ijQy gozy gozy bU af rhI hY’ qF srdfr sfihb ies ivwc koeI JUT nhIN ky gozy gozy bU hf, pr Auh afpxf Gr hY. purfxf Gr. ijQy sfzy pUrvj rhy. pIr pYgMbr hoey. gurU sfihbfn hoey. Aus DrqI leI ieho ijhy sbd sux ky duK hoieaf. kI ieh kuwJ ilKdy hoey quhfnUM duK nhIN hoieaf ik ijQy quhfzy mF- ipE rihMdy hox AuQy koeI Aus nUM iCwt khy. avqfr isMG jI mihsUs nf krnf sfzy qoN rihaf nf igaf qF ieh gusqfKI kr rhy hF, hor qusI smJdfr ho.

suKdyv isMG

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qrlocn isMG jI dI pRÈnfvlI dy Auqr

srdfr jI gurU Piqh pRvfn krnI jI

asIN afpxI miq anusfr jvfb Byj rhy hF. asIN quhfzy khy muqfibk pÈnfvlI ivwc kyvl hF jF nF hI kr ky Byj rhy hF

nfm ismrn dI koeI loV nhIN (hF/ nF)

hF loV hY

(2) kIrqn dI loV hY (hF/nF)

hF jI kIrqn dI loV hY

(3) iksy kfrj leI ardfs krn dI mhwqqf hY (hF/nF) bhuq ijafdf mhwqqf hY

(4) sfry sMq cfhy Auh pKMzI hn cfhy nhIN Auh Tg hn (hF/nF)

sfry sMq Tg nhIN hn pr sMqF dI pihcfx muiÈkl hY

(5) ieh jnm imTf aglf iks ny izTf (hF/nF)

nhIN asI 100% punr jnm ivwc ivÈvfÈ krdy hF

(6) gurbfxI ivwc ijQy vI pUrb lPj afieaf hY Auh iesy jnm nfl sMibDq hY (hF/nF)

nhIN keI QfeIN purb jnm ipCly jnm nfl sbMiDq hY

(7) grB Xoin aqy jnm ijnHf sbdF ivwc afey hn AuQy AunHF df mqlB iviafkrx anusfr nhIN hY (hF/nF)

ienHF df arQ iviafkrx anusfr hY

(8) mrn AuprMq iensfn mukq ho jFdf hY cfhy Auh ikho ijhf vI ikAuN nf hovy (hF/nF)

gMdy mnuwK kdy mukq nhIN huMdy Auh avfgvx dy ckrF ivwc BfAuNdy rihMdy hn

(9) jy punr jnm aqy jonIaF nhIN hn, qF vI Drm dI loV hY (hF/nF)

jy ies jnm qoN bfad kuwJ nhIN, iPr Drm dI koeI loV nhIN

(10) kI iswK Drm df mqlB kyvl ikrq krnf, vMz Ckxf aqy jIvn df krYktr Aucf bxfAuxf hY, ijvyN ky kfmryz vIr vI krdy hn (hF/nF)

nhIN nfm jpxf vI hY

asIN jvfb afpxI smJ anusfr idqy hn jI

suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

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(02/08/08)
vIrpfl isMG

Prof Mahajan jee,

WJKK WJKF..

I was going through your posts and you expect people to answer your questions while you have taken full liberty to ignore the questions of others and mis-interpret their language and force your views on them . I avoid making personal remakrs on people but now after seeing your approach I am forced to do so.

1. Firstly, you have placed a very good story that why you use surname but sorry I don't have any sympathy with you. A mistake can never correct another mistake. If you use surname to reflect rebel to higher class Jats then why you are doing so on Sikhmarg.com. This site is equal for all. You can see that it promotes views of Prof Gurmukh Singh , Kala afghana but at same time it also give equal oppurtunity to people like you who are anti gurmat. None of the sikhmarg author has ever done any discrimitnation on basis of caste so what do you want to show by putting surname over here.

I would have agreed if you would have put your surname and done revolt against fake saints and thekedaars who promote caste system and don't want to Sikh to unite. Lot of people ask me also what is my surname and to which village or place I belong to but I have only one answer my surname is same as that of Guru Gobind Singh.

2. On one side you say that you don't want to leave discussion and then in next mail you post a series of questions to be answered from all. If you want to leave discussion then take a firm decesion and leave it why are you in dwindling position.

3. You have still not answered my question about Law of conservation of energy, where you said Atma is Energy and then comemnted that energy is living thing. Any way it is very late, I have shown your letter to many physics students and Professors and all said they have mercy on your students after all a PANDIT is teaching them physics You asked me definition of living thing which I gave you in reply but I think that you don't have any answer and want to leave the discussion. Prof Mahajn just for your kind information I am repeating that living things have got nervous, reproduction, digestive or some equivalent sytem in them, they have got emotions and feelings whihc they can express it. Energy and mass have got relationship so Energy repersents Matter not Atma.

4. You treat Atma as separate entity while as per gurmat Atma and Heart or(Brain or Man) are same thing. Guru saahib himself says

"Man tu jot saroop hai, apna mool pachan" . If Atma is jot saroop then it should be Atma tu jot saroop hai.

5. You also asked in questions series that we belive on sants or not. Yes I firmly belive on sants and just like a Guru saahib says that person should do sewa of sant. But yes let me give you names of few sants as well, First sant is Prof Gurmikh Singh, Next is Ditt Singh, then is Kahn Singh then is Karam Singh historian then is Prof Saahib Singh, KalaAfghana... for me all these are sant.

I know for you sant should wear chola and long kachaa and keep legs naked also sant should be in big car and lot of followers but as per gurmat sant is not recognized by dress but by knowledge though these people never placed sant in their names but there contributions is much higher than sant.

I have few more sant names Gurucharan Singh Jeeonwala because he is doing panthic sewa and not coming under anti gurmat influence. You too have good experience of taste of his wonderous knowledge and reply and then is Sikh marg webmaster Makhan Singh jee.

Just a concern I am following my sants why dont you also follow your sants Go and do tap , jap for 20 or 100 years in some closed room or I feel Hemkunt will be good place. There will be no one to disturb you and you will also get lot of Rihiyan and Siddhiyan then you can create your own laws of physics.

I will give answer to all of your questions but first you should give anwer as I was first to ask you the question.

Gurcharan Singh jee and Webmaster jee,

I know you KalaAfghana jee (if he is reading this letter) may get annoyed that I called you people as Sant but every person has got freedom and I liked your thought, I have to reply to Prof Mahajan that whether I belive in sants. I asked SGGS then I found that you all have sant qualities on ground of knowledge. Believe me my definition for sant is very different.

For people like Prof Mahajan sant are those who wear cholas, who have got deras, who have got Atma and heart has different things, who have naked legs, who are owners of relegion and who are against democracy and equality and who can do some chamatkar.

Thanks,

Veerpal Singh

(sfzI socxI aqy gurbfxI muqfbk akfl purK aqy gurU hI sMq, sfD aqy bRhmigafnI hn. keI QfeIN bhu bcn dy qOr qy sfD-sMgq leI vI ieh sLbd vrqy gey hn. hF ieh gwl pwkI hY ik lMmy colHy pf ky koeI vI sMq nhIN bx skdf-sMpfdk)

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(02/08/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

mihMdr isMG rficstr vfilaF dy svfl df jvfb.

sR[ mihMdr isMG jI iewk vfrI afsf isMG msqfnf jI sfrI rfq hIr gfAuNdy rhy qy lok suxdy rhy. svyry dI cfh pIky jd AunHF ny ikhf ik vfrs Èfh dI hIr df ieh afKrI twpf hY qy ies qoN bfad hIr dI khfxI Kqm qF iewk afdmI kihx lwgf jI ieh dwso ik qKq hjfry vfly cODrI dI hIr kI lgdI sI? dUjf afdmI bol ipaf, “pwkf qF pqf nhIN pr ieMJ lgdf hY ik hIr AusdI mfmy dI kuVI jF Buaf dI kuVI sI”. quhfzf vI hfl iehI hY. quhfzy svfl df jvfb mYN ilK cuikaf hF qy ikRpf krky sfrIaF icwTIaF nUM iPr qoN pVHo pqf lwg jfvygf ik rwb iksy nUM ainafeI mOq nhIN mfrdf qy nf hI iksy nUM QoVI jF ijafdf Aumr imnqF qrly krn qy bKÈdf hY.

mihMdr isMG jI ikRpf krky www.singhsabhacanada.com qy jfE qy ‘salvation here and now’ suxo. quhfzy svfl df jvfb quhfnUM iml jfvygf.

kI quhfnUM bfkI dy iswK isDFq dI smJ pY geI?

DMnvfd.

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suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI qy sfQIaF dI icwTI df jvfb.

sR[ suKdyv isMG jI swB qoN pihlF qF qusIN afpxy sfQIaF dy nfm jrUr iliKaf kro. ieh qF pqf cwly ik kOx hY jo ies qrHF dIaF icwTIaF ilKx ivwc Èfml hY?

gur syvf qy krxI sfr] rfm nfmu rfKhu AuirDfr] gurbfxI vrqI jg aMqir iesu bfxI qy hir nfmu pfiedf] 3] {pMnf 1066}

gurbfxI df ieh slok iblkul sfP sfP smJf irhf hY ik gurbfxI hI nfm hY nfm hor koeI nhIN qy pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf jI ny vI iehI iliKaf hY. hux qusIN afpxy lPËF ivwc ivsQfr pUrvk ilKx dI koiÈÈ krnI ik qusIN iks cIj nUM nfm smJdy ho?

BfeI rxDIr isMG jI afpxI iksy ikqfb ivwc ilKdy hn ik mYN nfm aiBafs dI brkq nfl hOlf Puwl vrgf ho ky Cwq nfl lwg igaf. kI qusIN iksy nfm aiBafs nfl aYsIaF ÈkqIaF pRwpq krnf hI nfm ismrn smJdy ho jF kuwJ hor?

ieh vI dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI ik jo kuwJ qusIN Audfhrx vjoN iliKaf hY Auh pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf dI ikhVI ikqfb ivcoN ilaf igaf hY?

quhfzI kIqI ardfs sdf pUrI hoeI hY jF ikqy ikqy?

jdoN qusIN kdy ardfs krdy ho qF ikhVI ikhVI mMg krdy ho? ienHF mMgF ivcoN ikhVI ikhVI mMg pUrI hoeI?

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

(sMpfdkI not:- pRo: ieMdr isMG Gwgf BfvyN afp ieMtrnYWt nhIN vrqdy pr Auhnf ny afpxIaF ilKqF pfAux leI afpxI vYWb sfeIt bxfeI hoeI hY. ies leI Auh hux sfnUM afpxy lyK nhIN Byjdy. ies leI ‘isWK mfrg’ dy pfTkF Kfs krky suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI nUM bynqI hY ik jy kr Aus ny jF iksy hor ny AuhnF dIaF ilKqF bfry koeI svfl krnf hY qF Auh iswDf Auhnf nUM kry sfnUM nf Byjy. AuhnF dI vYWb sfeIt df ilMk Auhnf dy lyKF dy hyTF idWqf hoieaf hY)

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(02/08/08)
hrijMdr isMG

pRo qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

pRo: mhfjn jI, mYnUM vI quhfzy ivcfrF qy bVf hI aPsos ho irhf hY ik qusIN afpxI ilKq nUM hI TIk qrHF nfl nf pVH sky qy nfhIN po sfihb isMG dy arQF nUM. jdoN qusI krmF sMbMDI hI arQ TIk nhIN kr rhy ho. quhfzy arQ

2) (krm bD qum jIAu khq hO) ijvyN kbIr jI pMj qqF qoN mnuwkr nhIN AuvyN hI Auh krmF qoN vI mnuwkr nhIN hn ijMd krmF ivwc bwJI hoeI hY. pr krm iks ny bxfey! ieh dUjf ivsmfd hY pRÈn nhIN.

vyKo pRo sfihb isMG afKdy ny (pMjF qwqF ny iml ky ieh srIr bxfieaf hY (pr iehnF qwqF dI BI koeI vwKrI hsqI nhIN hY), ieh qwq BI hor ikwQoN bxny sn? (ieh BI cyqn-swqf qoN hI bxy hn). qusI lok, hy BfeI! ieh afKdy ho ik jIvfqmf kIqy krmF krmF df bwJf hoieaf hY, (pr asl gwl ieh hY ik) krmF ƒ BI pihlF cyqn-swqf qoN ibnf hor iks ny vjUd ivwc ilafAuxf sI? (Bfv, krmF ƒ BI pihlF ieh cyqn-swqf hI vjUd ivwc ilafAuNdI hY). 2[

pRo sfihb isMG duafrf kIqy iesy dUjy bMd dy pd arQ- kfieaf—srIr. ry—hy BfeI! qqu—hvf, awg, imwtI afidk qwq jo jgq-rcnf df mUÜ hn. krm bD—ipCly kIqy krmF df bwJf hoieaf. krmih—krmF ƒ. ikin— (cyqn-swqf ibnf hor) iks ny? jIAu dInu—vjUd idwqf, hsqI ivwc ilaFdf. 2[

ies Èbd dI ivafiKaf dy bfd aMq ivwc pRo sfihb isMG jI duafrf idwqf igaf

Èbd df Bfv: —srb-ivafpk prmfqmf hI sfrI isRÈtI df krqf hY. jIvfqmf Ausy dI aMÈ hn, jIvF dy srIr ƒ bxfx vflf BI pRBU hI hY, qy jIvF dy krmF ƒ BI Ausy ny hI pihlF vjUd ivwc ilaFdf. jo kuwJ ho irhf hY, suqy hI Ausy dI rËf anusfr ho irhf hY.

hux pRo mhfjn jI! qusIN afp hI ienF ivwc aMqr pVH lvo qy soco qy ivcfro ik qusIN ikwQy glq ho qy pRo sfihb isMG jI TIk. qusIN afpxI mrjI anusfr hI arQ krky sfzy qy Tos rhy ho.

pRo sfihb jI kIqy arQ (lfl rMg) Prk smJf rhy hn. hor pfTk vI iDafn dyx ky dovF ivwc iknF Prk hY.

qusIN myry svflF df jvfb ies leI nhIN dy rhy ikAuNik quhfzy kol koeI jvfb hI nhIN hY.

svfl –krmF df ihsfb iks QF qy huMdf hY? kI koeI Kfs itkfxf hY? kOx krdf hY?

qusIN qF kyvl ihMdU mq dI aYnk lfky (jfxy ik axjfxy) hI gurmiq dUijaF nUM pVHf rhy ho. pRo mhfjn jI, mYN mMndf hF ik qusIN ivigafn dy iewk bhuq guxI qy cMgy aiDafpk ho pr iPr myrI bynqI hY ik “drpx” df sihj pfT qusIN ËrUr kro.

ikAuNik

kbIrf jhf igafnu qh Drmu hY, jhf JUTu qh pfpu] jhf loBu qh kflu hY jhf iKmf qh afip] 155] {pMnf 1372}

ddY dosu n dyAU iksY, dosu krMmf afpixaf] jo mY kIaf so mY pfieaf, dosu n dIjY avr jnf] 21] {pMnf 433}

AuWqr dI AuzIk ivc.

hrijMdr isMG

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(02/08/08)
pRYWs irlIjL

myry mrn qoN vI myry Aupr kflf kPn pfieaf jfvy! pRo: drÈn isMG Kflsf

pMjfb gfrzIan ibAuro/imsIsfgf; gurU grMQ sfihv akYzmI ivwc 27 julfeI idn aYqvfr nUM krIbn 3 GMty clI knvYÈn ivwc pRo: drÈn isMG qoN ibnf iswK kOm dy AuGy pRcfrk igaFnI gurbKÈ isMG gulÈn ajIq isMG alMkfrI horF qoN ibnf sR amrIk isMG mukqsr bIbI ieMdrpfl kOr aqy keI hor ivdvfnf vI ihwsf ilaf. pRogrfm dy ÈurU ivwc sR ajIqpfl isMG ny ies knvYÈn df mwksd dwsidaF ikhf ik ieh knvYÈn gurU grMQ sfihb jI dI af rhI 400 sflf ÈqfbdI dy sbMD ivwc rwKI geI hY qF ik iswK kOm nuM gurU grMQ sfihb bfry jfxkfrI qoN ibnf ieh vI dwisaf jf sky ik sfzIaF ÈqfbdIaF qF hI sfriQk hn jy asIN dsm grMQ vrgy grMQF dI brfbrqf bfry sucyq hoeIey ijhVf gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr srIk bxf ky pyÈ kIqf jf irhf hY.

ÈurU ivwc pMjfb gfrzIan dy sR mnjIq isMG mFgt horF gurU grMQ sfihb Aupr bolidaF ikhf ik sfzI awj dI sB qoN vzI ijwq ieh hY ik asIN gurU grMQ sfihb jI Kud arQF smyq pVn aqy smJx dI afdq pfeIey. Auhnf ikhf ik jd asIN iksy dy nvyN Gr koeI igPt lY ky jFdy hF qF asIN hor kuwJ iljfx dI bjfie gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy tIky dIaF sMcIaF lY ky jfieaf krIey qF ik gurU grMQ sfihb nUM Gr Gr pVn dI afdq pvy aqy duafly Pyly hoey aMDkfr qoN iswK kOm df Cutkfrf ho sky.

sR amrIk isMG mukqsr ny ieiqhfsk hvfilaF nfl disaf ik dsm grMQ kd ‘pRgt’ ho irhf hY aqy ies nUM ikvyN plYn kIqf igaf. Auhnf hYrfnI jnk qwQ dsidaF ikhf ik qusIN iekwly dsm grMQ sf iPkr kr rhy ho ieQy keI grMQ gurU goibMd isMG jI mhfrfj dy nF qy pRgt hox jf rhy hn ijs ivwc igafn sfgr, ividaf sfgr aqy srbloh afid ijkr jog hn ijhVy sihjy sihjy iswK kOm ivwc Auqfry jf rhy hn qF ik iswK gurU grMQ sfihb nUM Cwz ky iewk qoN dUjy grMQ leI lVdI iBVdI apxI brbfdI afp hI krn dy rfh peI rhy. Auhnf ies dy ipCokV ivwc jFidaf ikhf ik dsm grMQ ieQoN hI rwd ho jFdf hY jd soDk kmytI bfbf Kym isMG bydI dI srpRsqI hyT ies nUM soD ky ilK rhI hY. kI iksy kmytI jF iswK nUM afKI jFdI gurU dI ikRq soDx df hwk hY? kI soDk kmytI jF bfbf Kym isMG bydI iPr gurU goibMd isMG jI mhfrfj nfloN isafxy sn? Auhnf hYrfnI jnk qwQ dsidaF ikhf ik aijhIaF hI syvfvF bdly aMgryj ny bfbf Kym isMG bydI nUM ijlHf imMtguMmrI ivKy krIbn 30-32 hjfr eykV jmIn alft kIqI. Xfd rhy ik ieh AuhI bfbf Kym isMG bydI hY ijhVf gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr isMGfsn lf ky bYiTaf krdf aqy apxy cyilaF qoN cOr krvfieaf krdf sI. iesy bfby bydI ny pRo gurmuwK isMG vrgy ivdvfnf nUM pMQ ivcoN iCkvf ky isMG sBf lihr lwk qoiVaf sI aqy ies ny aqy iesdy cyilaF bflikaF sB qoN pihlF dsm grMQ dIaF 32 kfpIaF bkfiedf pflkIaF ivwc sjf ky ilafdIaF aqy sRI akfl qKq sfihb qy ies df ‘pRkfÈ’ kIqf! BfeI amrIk isMG ny spwÈt kIqf ik srbloh grMQ dI muwzlI jfxkfrI ivwc buwZf dl vfly Kud mMndy ik 18vIN sdI qk dsm grMQ df koeI nf inÈfn nhI sI!

agly bulfry bIbI ieMdrpfl kOr ny gurU grMQ sfihb aqy dsm grMQ dI imsfl ididMaF ikhf ik jYgvr aqy mrszI gwzIaF idKf ky iewk Coty ijhy bwcy nUM vI puwCo qF Auh kdy jYgvr nUM mrszI nhI khygf pr sfzy lokF dI ikhI smJ hY ik Auh ieMny afpf ivroDI gurU grMQ sfihb aqy dsm grMQ dy Prk nUM smJx qoN asrmQ hn.

ajIq isMG alMkfrI ny bVy Bvuk bolF ivwc ikhf ik mYN pR sfhb nUM icrF qoN jfxdf hF Auhnf hmysF iswK kOm dI BlfeI leI stYNz kIqf hY hux vI mY ieMglYNz jf irhf hF aqy Auhnf dIaF 200 sIzIË mYN apxy koloN iljf irhf hF qF ik AuQy vMz ky sMgqF nUM dsm grMQ dI aslIaq qoN jfxUM krfieaf jf sky.

pRiswD ivdvfn igafnI gurbKÈ isMG gulÈn ny spwÈt lPjF ivwc ikhf ik gurU grMQ sfihb jI qoN ibnf jy koeI grMQ pRvfn hI nhI qF ikAuN qKqF jF hor zyiraF ivwc ies nUM rwK ky gurU grMQ sfihb dI guirafeI nUM cYilMj kIqf jf irhf hY. Auhnf ikhf ik byÈk awj akfl qwKq sfihb jF hor qwKqF Aupr dsm grMQ nhI hY pr aMgryjF smy AudfsIaF inrmilaF aqy mhMqF dy kbjy vyly ieh grMQ sfry hI qwKqF Aupr hoieaf krdf sI ijhVf isMG sBf lihr ny afx ky cuwikaf! Auhnf ikhf ik Aus smy pMQ dy vwzy-vwzy ivdvfn mOjUd sn Auhnf nUM ies ic kuwJ glq jfipaf qF ies nUM cuwikaf igaf pr jy bfkI qwKqF qoN cuwk ilaf igaf qF bfkI qoN ikAuN nhI? Auhnf hor spwÈt kridaF ikhf ik iswK rihq mirXfdf ivwc ieh lPj pfAuNxy hI qF pey ik ‘gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr hor iksy grMQ nUM rwiKaf nhI jf skdf’ ikAuNik ieh iekwly ptnf sfihb jF hjUr sfihb hI nhI blik pMjF hI qKqF qy rwiKaf hoieaf sI. Auhnf hYrfnI pRgt kIqI ik ipAu df jnm idn mnfAuNx lwigaF kI iksy hor df vI kyk kwitaf jf skdf hY ik ieh vI myrf ipAu hY? awgy jf ky Auhnf ikhf ik jy dsm grMQ nUM gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr rwKx dI sfzI iehI dlIl hY ik ies ivwc inwqnym dIaF bfxIaF hn qF kwl nUM kbIr pMQIey vI apxf grMQ cuwk ilafAuNxgy ik gurU grMQ sfihb ivwc mOjUd Bgq jI dI sfrI bfxI ies grMQ ivwc hY! jd ik Bgq rivdfs jI df grMQ keI QfeIN rwiKaf vI jf cuwkf hY. Auhnf sMq smfj Aupr vrHidaF ikhf ik nf iswK rihq mirXfdf nfl sihmq, nf nfnk ÈfhI klMzr nfl sihmq, nf gurU grMQ sfihb nfl sihmq, pr nf rwK ilaf ‘gurmiq pRcfr isDFq sMq smfj! ieh ikDr df isDFq hY ijhVf sMq smfj vfly pRcfr rhy hn!

aKIr qy pRo drÈn isMG ny dsm grMQ bfry bolidaF ikhf ik bRhfmx ny qF Ausy idn qoN kMn cuwk ley sn ijs idn gurU nfnk sfihb ny ‘sbd gurU surq Dun cylf’ df aYlfn kr idqf sI. Auhnf ieiqhfsk hvflf idMidaF ikhf ik aMgryj sfrf ihMdosqfn sOiKaF hI Piqh kr afieaf pr Kflsy dy huMidaF sqluj twpx dI AusdI juwarq nhI peI. iehI kfrn sI ik byeImfnI nfl Kflsf rfj hVwpx qoN bfad Ausny Kflsy nUM bRhfmxI Kfry smuMdr ivwc sutx leI bRhfmx dI BrpUr shfieqf kIqI. Auhnf gurU grMQ sfihb ivcly akfl purK aqy dsm grMQ dy mhFkfl df Prk dsidaF ikhf ik 266vyN cirqwr ivwc sfP iliKaf hY ik iewk aOrq iksy dUjy nUM mhFkfl df syvk bxn dIaF ÈrqF aDIn Aus nUM Èrfb aqy BMg pI ky afAuNx leI pRyr rhI hy ik Èrfb aqy BMg qoN ibnf qUM mhFkfl df iswK nhI bx skdf! Auhnf svfl kIqf ik kI akfl purK df syvk bxn leI vI iehI ÈrqF hn jo mhFkfl df bxn leI hn? Auhnf gurbfxI df hvflf idMidaF ikhf ik gurbfxI ivwc spwÈt afAuNdf hY ik,

jpu goibMd gupfl lfl] rfm nfm ismir qUM jIvyN iPr n KfeI mhFkfl]

Auhnf ikhf ik gurbfxI qF mhFkfl qoN bcx leI kih rhI hY pr dsm grMQ mhFkfl df syvk bxn leI BMg aqy Èrfb pIx dIaF hdfieqF kr irhf hY! Auhnf awj dy hflfqF qy icMqf jfhr kridaF ikhf ik lwKF iswK sMgqF awj hjUr sfihb ijQy gurU grMQ sfihb jI nUM iswjdf kr rhIaF hoxgIaF AuQy nfl hI Es grMQ nUM vI mwQy tyk rhIaF hoxgIaF ijhVf gurU grMQ sfihb nfl kqeI myl nhI KFdf aqy awiDAuN vD aÈlIlqf nfl Biraf ipaf hY. aKIr qy Auhnf bVy Bfvuk ho ky ikhf ik jy myry jINdy jIa gurU grMQ sfihb jI df siqkfr bhfl nf ho sikaf qF ikRpf krky myry mry qy vI kflf kPn pf dyxf qF ik myrI imwtI vI myry vloN kIqy ros pRgt dI gvfhI dyvy. Xfd rhy ik pRo drÈn isMG ny aYlfn kIqf hoieaf hY ik jd qwk dsm grMQ vrgf aÈlIl grMQ gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr qoN htf ky gurU grMQ sfihb jI df siqkfr bhfl nhI kIqf jFdf AunHf icr Auh ros vjoN kflf bfxf pihnI rwKxgy.

afKr `c sfrI bYTI iswK sMgq ny ies mqy dI pRorVqf dovy hwQ KVy krky kIqI ik sfzf gurU, kyvl qy kyvl gurU grMQ sfihb hI hY asIN iksy aihjI QF jf ky mwQf nhI tykFgy ijQy gurU dy brfbr koeI hor grMQ jF iksy sfD sMq jF iksy mUrqI dI pUjf ho rhI hY.

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qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

hrijMdr isMG jI

gurU Piqh pRvfn krnI jI

hrijMdr isMG jI byhwd aPsos hY, QoVf aPsos nhIN, byhwd aPsos hY ies gl df ky quhfnUM myrI ilKI pMjfbI hI smJ nhIN afAuNdI. qusF Èbd idqf sI arQ krn leI. mYN arQ kIqy. iPr BfeI sfihb isMG jI dy arQ vI Byjy. qusIN kih rhy ho ky myry qy BfeI sfihb isMG jI dy arQF ivwc Prk hY.

iDafn nfl bfr bfr pVHo, awKF qoN myry qyry dIaF aYnkF htf ky pVo. aOr ies kdr pVo ky ieh sbd hI quhfzf krm bx jfey. iPr aigafnqf dy prdy ht jfxgy. jd qk hAumy dI dIvfr Ausfr rKogy qF kuwJ nhIN idsxf. hux vylf hY pVn df, pVo aqy pVdy hI jfE. qusIN mihsUs krogy ky arQF ivd koeI Prk nhIN hY. hF jy iPr vI aijhf mihsUs nf hovy qF pRBU nUM ardfs kro ky Auh swc smJx leI sumiq dyvy.

qusF hyT ilKy arQ puCy hn.

goNz.. afkfis ggnu, pfqfil ggnu hY, chu idis ggnu rhfiely.. afnd mUlu sdf purKoqmu, Gtu ibnsY ggnu n jfiely.. ñ.. moih bYrfgu BieE.. iehu jIAu afie khf gieE.. ñ.. rhfAu.. pMc qqu imil kfieaf kInÙI, qqu khf qy kInu ry.. krm bD qum jIAu khq hO, krmih ikin jIAu dInu ry.. ò.. hir mih qnu hY, qn mih hir hY, srb inrMqir soie ry.. kih kbIr, rfm nfmu n CozAu, shjy hoie su hoie ry.. ó.. ó.. {pMnf ø÷ú}

Auqr jo mYN idqf sI ik:

ijMd kdy mukdI nhIN, kdy nfs nhIN huMdI. bYrfgI jdoN bYrfg ivwc huMdf hY qy Auh afpxy afp ƒ hI svfl krdf hY.

ieQy kbIr jI do svfl kr rhy hn jo byhwd mhwqvpUrx hn

1) (pMc qqu imil kfieaf kInÙI) kbIr jI pMj qqF qoN mnuwkr nhIN ho rhy.

jy ÈrIr pMj qqF df bixaf hY qF iPr qq iks ny bxfey. ieh asl ivwc ivsmfd hY, pRÈn nhIN. pMj qq idRÈtIgocr hn. pr iewk Auh vI hY jo aidRÈ huMdy hoey vI pMj qqF rfhIN idRÈtIgocr ho irhf hY.

2)( krm bD qum jIAu khq hO )ijvyN kbIr jI pMj qqF qoN mnuwkr nhIN AuvyN hI Auh krmF qoN vI mnuwkr nhIN hn ijMd krmF ivwc bwJI hoeI hY. pr krm iks ny bxfey! ieh dUjf ivsmfd hY pRÈn nhIN.

pMj qqF dy inafeIN krm vI mnuwK dy idRiÈtIgocr hn. pr Aupr idqy hvfilaF qoN spst hY ik Auh krqfr aidRÈ huMdy hoey vI krmF rfhIN idRÈt ho irhf hY

ijs mnuwK ƒ ieh soJI af jFdI hY ik Auh (krqfr) hI hY qF Auh afpxf mfx afpxf igafn afpxy krm aqy afpxf sB kuwJ pRBU hvfly kr idMdf hY. bs ieho Ausdy jubfnI huMdf hY ik mYƒ kuwJ vI pqf nhIN. mYƒ kfsy dI smJ nhIN

rfmklI mhlf õ.. ikChU kfju n kIE jfin.. suriq miq nfhI ikCu igafin.. jfp qfp sIl nhI Drm.. ikCU n jfnAu kYsf krm.. ñ.. Tfkur pRIqm pRB myry.. quJ ibnu dUjf avru n koeI BUlh cUkh pRB qyry..

BfeI sfihb isMG jI dy arQ : —myrf inÈcf hux ies gwl AuWqy itk igaf hY ik ieh ijMd kdy mrdI nhIN (ikAuNik ieh ijMd Aus srb-ivafpk sdf-iQr cyqn-swqf df aMÈ hY). ñ. rhfAu.

(ieh ijMd ijs df aMÈ hY Auh) cyqn-swqf akfÈ qoN pqfl qwk hr pfsy mOjUd hY, AuhI (jIvF dy) suK df mUl-kfrn hY. Auh sdf kfiem rihx vflf hY, Auh hI (hY ijs ƒ) AuWqm purK (prmfqmf khIdf) hY. (jIvF df) srIr nfs ho jFdf hY, pr (srIr ivwc vwsdI ijMd df somf) cyqn-swqf nfs nhIN huMdI. ñ.

pMjF qwqF ny iml ky ieh srIr bxfieaf hY (pr iehnF qwqF dI BI koeI vwKrI hsqI nhIN hY), ieh qwq BI hor ikwQoN bxny sn? (ieh BI cyqn-swqf qoN hI bxy hn). qusI lok, hy BfeI! ieh afKdy ho ik jIvfqmf kIqy krmF krmF df bwJf hoieaf hY, (pr asl gwl ieh hY ik) krmF ƒ BI pihlF cyqn-swqf qoN ibnf hor iks ny vjUd ivwc ilafAuxf sI? (Bfv, krmF ƒ BI pihlF ieh cyqn-swqf hI vjUd ivwc ilafAuNdI hY). ò.

hy BfeI! Aus cyqn-swqf pRBU dy aMdr ieh (jIvF df) srIr vjUd ivwc afAuNdf hY, qy srIrF ivwc Auh pRBU vwsdf hY. sBnF dy aMdr AuhI hY, ikqy ivwQ nhIN hY. so, kbIr afKdf hY—aYsy cyqn-swqf prmfqmf df nfm mYN kdy nhIN BulfvFgf, (nfm ismrn dI brkiq nfl hI ieh smJ afAuNdI hY ik) jo kuwJ jgq ivwc ho irhf hY suqy hI (Aus cyqn-swqf pRBU dI rËf ivc) ho irhf hY. ó. ó.

hux ieh dso ik myry arQF ivwc aqy pRo: sfihb isMG jI dy arQF ivwc kI Prk hY.

hrijMdr isMG jI jd qk qusIN mYnUM klIar nhIN krdy ky myry kIqy arQ qy BfeI sfihb isMG jI dy arQF ivwc kI Prk hY mYNnUM hor koeI slfh nf dyxf.

qrlocn isMG

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jsvMq isMG

Waheguru jee ka khalsa waheguru jee kee fateh, sardar sahib jeo sikh marg raheen jo vidhwana dee vichar charcha pathkan wastey jaari kitee jandhi hai ik vadhia uprala hai jiss naal kaafi jankari mildhi hai, aap iss kaarj wastey wadhaee dey haqq daar hoo. vidhwaan sajjana aggey baintee hai ke karrwahat toon bachia jaavey tankey merey vergey anjaan pathk gurmat dee jankaree prapat kar sakkan. Aas kardha haan ke lekhakan da apna rozana jeevan ohnan dee lekhnee vaang hee hoveyga nakey "gallien aseen changiea achaarien buriean", unjh te likhan bollan vich appan bahut doonge akher, jiven greebrra, dassendaas, moorakh, adhna, charna dee dhoor tey hoore bahut kuchh appney naam dey naak lagaundey haan parr asal jeevan vich sabh kuchh isdey bilkul ulat hundha hai, kherr waheguru bhallee karey.

Bhull chuck muaaf aas krdaan han ke aap istraan hee gursikhee dee charrdi klaa waastey kaarj karde rahogey. Waheguru jee ka khalsa waheguru jee kee fateh.

Jaswant Singh

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qrlocn isMG mhfjn

qrlocn isMG mhfjn

srvjIq isMG jIO

gurU Piqh pRvfn krnI jI

quhfzf glbfq dy lihjy ivwc sihjqf af rhI hY, ieh vfihgurU dI apfr bKiÈÈ hY. quhfzf lihjf ieho ijhf hI sihj vflf rhy sfzI vfihgurU agy ardfs hY. kuwJ gurcrn isMG jI nUM vI smJfieaf kro. Auh ajy bcpn ivwc hn. AunHF nUM dso ik bcpn bIq cukf hY. jvfnI vI aKIr qy hY. buZypf ÈurU hox vflf hY. isafxy hox dI Aumr hY. vylf hY, byVy nUM bMnx df. nhIN qF aMq pCqfAuxf pY skdf hY. AunHF nUM ajy qk hMs df pqf hI nhIN.

sUhI lilq] byVf bMiD n sikE, bMDn kI vylf] Bir srvru jb AUClY, qb qrxu duhylf] 1] hQu n lfie ksuMBVY, jil jfsI Zolf] 1] rhfAu] iewk afpInÙY pqlI, sh ky ry bolf] duDfQxI n afveI iPir hoie n mylf] 2] khY PrIdu shylIho, shu alfeysI] hMsu clsI zuMmxf, aih qnu ZyrI QIsI] 3] 2] {pMnf 794}

srvjIq isMG jI lfl sbdF vl iDafn dyxf jI

srvjIq isMG jI mYN koeI iemiqhfn nhIN lY irhf. mYN ieimqhfn lYx vflf kox huMdf hF. hF iemiqhfn jF qF gurU lY skdf hY jF igafnI (ijs nUM pUrn igafn huMdf hY). mYnUM qF quhfzy gurcrn isMG jI inq nvIaF izgrIaF nfl invfj idMdy hn. AunHF izgrIaF nUM gRihx krn leI mYnUM pVHfeI krnI pYNdI hY. Ausy pVHfeI leI mYN iewk pRÈfnvlI iqafr kIqI sI. Brn leI. pr pqf nhIN ikAuN Aus nUM Brn qoN sfry kqrf rhy hn. hF jF nF hI qF krnI hY, aOKf kMm kyhVf hY. vyKo avqfr isMG jI df jvfb vI af igaf. hux quhfzI vfrI hY. qusIN Bro qF vI cMgf nf Bro qF vI cMgf ikAuNik qusIN sihj ivwc ho pr ieh pRÈnfvlI gurcrn isMG jI leI ijafdf jrUrI hY. ikAuNik Auho hI inq nvIaF izgrIaF mYNnUM soNpdy hn aqy ieQy hI bs nhIN, izgrIaF sopx qoN bfad iPr Auh ies dI jfxkfrI sfrI dunIaf nUM idMdy hn ‘afKdy hn quhfnUM nMgf krnf hY’. myry vfihgurU jI kol ardfs hY ky Auh myry prdy Zky, ikAuNik aj kyvl gurcrn isMG jI hI nhIN hr iensfn dUjy nUM nMgf krn qy quilaf hoieaf hY. ieh kYsf sMsfr hY.

apuny jn kf prdf ZfkY] apny syvk kI srpr rfKY] apny dfs kAu dyie vzfeI] apny syvk kAu nfmu jpfeI] apny syvk kI afip piq rfKY] qf kI giq imiq koie n lfKY] pRB ky syvk kAu ko n phUcY] pRB ky syvk AUc qy AUcy] jo pRiB apnI syvf lfieaf] nfnk so syvku dh idis pRgtfieaf] 4] {pMnf 285}

qrlocn isMG

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qrlocn isMG mhfjn

iswK isDfqF dI pYrvfeI krn vfly ‘gurcrn isMG jI’ iswK isDfqF qoN mnuwkr.

gurcrn isMG jI nUM

iswK isDfqF dI pYrvfeI krn vfly ‘gurcrn isMG jI’ iswK isDfqF qoN afp hI mnuwkr ho gey.

gurbfxI iksy iewk leI nhIN myry vIr Auh sfiraF leI hY ‘krqUiq psU kI mfns jfiq’ jy myry leI hY qF qusI vI ies dy pUrn hwkdfr vI ho.

gurcrn isMG jI qusI duijaF qy JUTIaF quhmqF lfAux qoN htogy nhIN. gurbfxI pVHn vfly gurcrn isMG jI. KOP KfE. rwb qoN zro. drgh ivwc lyKy hoxgy.

quhfzf JUT sMgq sfhmxy hfjr hY:

qusF iliKaf:

ipCly jnm df agly jnm ivwc Pl imldf hY qF gurU arjn pfqÈfh, gurU qyg bhfdr, gurU goibMd isMG, mfqf gujrI, cfroN sfihbjfdy, ÈhId mqI dfs, ÈhId sqI dfs, ÈhId dieaflf jI, BfeI mnI isMG aqy hor lwKF ÈhId ijhVy afiraF nfl cIry gey, ijnHF ny KoprIaF luhfeIaF, puTIaF KwlF AuqrvfeIaF quhfzy muqfbk Auh ÈhId nhIN hoey AunHF nUM AunHF dy ipCly jnm dI sjf imlI hY. iesdf Auqr awj qk nhIN afieaf?

myrI koeI vI icTI ivKfE ijs ivwc mYN ikhf hovy ik ÈhIdF nUM imlI ÈhIdI, pRmfqmf vloN sjf hY.

aYnf kuPr qolnf TIk nhIN huMdf.

afpxy afp nUM shI isD krn leI qusIN shIdF qk nUM nhIN bKiÈaf.

shIdI koeI sjf nhIN, myry ipafry vIr. ieh qF pRmfqmf vloN imilaf iewk qoPf hY, ijhVHf iksy KuÈnsIb dy ihsy afAuNdf hY. gurU goibMd isMG mhfrfj ny jdoN isr mMgy qF KuÈnsIb sn Auh ipafry ijnHF ny afpxy afp nUM smripq kIqf. jy qusIN AuQy huMdy qF quhfnUM qF ieh isrF dI mMg sjf mihsUs hoxI sI aqy qusI suxdy sfr AuQoN Bj jfxf sI.

quhfzy bfkI svflF dy Auqr:

quhfzy pihly svfl df jvfb

kUMjF nfm ikvyN jpdIaF hn?

jo bolq hY imRg mIn pMKyrU su ibnu hir jfpq hY nhI hor] 3] nfnk jn hir kIriq gfeI CUit gieE jm kf sB sor] 4] 1] 8] (pMnf 1265)

hr pRfxI cfhy Auh psU hY cfhy Auh mnuwK hY cfhy Auh pMKyrU hY Aus hrI dI joiq dy afsry hY. ies joiq nUM Auh mihsUs krdf hY jF nhIN ieh Aus pRfxI mfqr qy aqy pRmfqmf dI rjf qy inrBr krdf hY.

quhfzf dUjf svfl

albrt afeinÈtfeIn, inAUtn qy hor sfeIsdfnF nUM kudrqI inXmF bfry jfxkfrI ikvyN hoeI? ,

jvfb

sfieMsdfnF nUM kudrq bfry kuwJ jfxkfrI siQr nhIN huMdI aqy ieh jfxkfrI imldI hY pRXogF rfhIN. keI vfr iewk iviganI dy isDFq nUM dujy ivigafnI vloN rwd kr idqf jFdf hY.

quhfzy qIjf svfl:

ihMdUmwq df Pyhl hoieaf ‘krmF isDFq’ qusIN iswK Drm nUM ivgfVn, vfsqy iswK Drm df aMg ikAuN bfxfAuxf cfhUMdy ho?

jvfb

ihMdosqfn dI jnqf smJdI hY ik krmF df ihsfb ikqfb huMdf hY pr Auh nf qF krm iQAUrI ƒ nkfrdI hY aqy nf hI ies ƒ Xfd rwKdI hY. ijvyN asIN mrgq dy smyN ÈmÈfn BUmI jFdy hF qF sfƒ AuQy mOq bfry Xfd afAuxf ÈurU huMdf hY nhIN qF asIN ies scfeI qoN byKbr rihMdy hF. iesy qrHf krmF qoN vI ihMdosqfnI jnqf byKbr hY. ijs krky mYnuM hokf dyxf pY irhf hY. mkVI dy jfl vFgUM hI ieh krm mnuwK ƒ afpxy jfl ivwc AulJfeI rwKdy hn. jy qusIN socy, qF vI qsIN ienHF qoN bfhr nhIN af skdy (gurU dI myhr ho jfey qF lyKy imt vI skdy hn iPr punirp jnm nhIN huMdf). quhfzy krmF krky hI quhfzI ieh soc bxIN hY ik punr jnm nhIN huMdf. mYƒ ivÈvfÈ hY ik quhfzy qy myhr hoeygI pRmfqmf dI qy qusIN mnogy ik jnm aqy jUnF df atut sbMD hY mnuwK nfl. ies DrqI qy mnuwK kyvl qy kyvl iewk musfiPr hY. anMq DrqIaF hn ieh bRihmMz ivwc qy anMq jnm iKilraf hoieaf hY. mnuwK anMq DrqIaF qoN huMdf hoieaf, anMq jUnF ivwc GuMmdf hoieaf Auh ies DrqI qy phuMicaf hY.

iensfn byhwd clfk hY Auh sB kuwJ Auho Xfd rwKxf cfhuMdf hY ijhdy ivwc Aus muqfibk Aus dy Pfiedy hox. aj iensfn krm iQAUrI anusfr smJ cukf hY jF smJ irhf hY ik Aus ƒ Kud hI krm krny pYxgy qF hI kuwJ prfpq hoeygf. pfT vI Aus ƒ afp krnf hovygf aqy pUjf vI. dUjy dy krmF df Aus ƒ kuwJ vI prfpq nhIN hoxf. pMzq jo pYsy lY ky Xwg, hom jF pfT pUjf krdy hn Aus df mhfqm pYsy dyx vfilaF ƒ kdy nhIN iml skdf. ieh krm iQAUrI df isDFq hY. krm iensfn ƒ Kud hI krny pYxy hn. jy aj pMzq igafnIaF dy rUp ivwc pfT pUjf df cVfvf afpxy ihq leI vrq rhy hn qF ies df ihsfb ikqfb AunHF ƒ dyxf pvygf ieh hY krm iQAUrI. Auho pfT hY Auho pUjf hY jo afpUM kIqf jfvy. aj asIN krm isDFq nuM aKoN pry kIqf hoieaf hY, ies leI jy aj asI prmfqmf ƒ arjoeI jF ardfs krnI hY qF vI iksy hor ƒ kihxf hY ik aYh lvo pYsy qy sfzy qrPoN qusI ardfs kro. qF ieh ikhVI ardfs hoeygI. iewk KrIdI hoeI ardfs df kI asr ho skdf hY. aj asIN ardfs krnI vI Bul cuky hF. ikAuN?

myrf ihq ieho hY ik asIN Kud krm krIey, afpUM pfT pUjf krIey, afpUM kIrqn krIey, afpUM ardfs krIey. aOr Xfd rKIey ik krm iensfn qF iensfn, psU pMCI vI krdy hn ijvyN:

iBRMg pqMgu kuMcru aru mInf.. imrgu mrY sih apunf kInf.. iqRsnf rfic qqu nhI bInf.. ó.. pMnf òòõ-òòö}

jy cMgy krm nhIN krFgy qF grB jon qoN imlx vfly duKF klyÈF qoN mukq nhIN ho skFgy.

mnmuiK grib n pfieE aigafn ieafxy.. siqgur syvf nf krih iPir iPir pCuqfxy.. grB jonI vfsu pfiedy grBy gil jfxy.. myry krqy eyvY Bfvdf mnmuK Brmfxy.. ó.. {pMnf ñöò-ñöó}

cMgy krm krn qoN bfad AunHf df guxgfn nhIN krnf huMdf. suxo gurbfxI kI kih rhI hY “afps kAu krmvMqu khfvY.. jnim mrY bhu join BRmfvY..``

quhfzy cOQf svfl:

gurbfxI punrp jnm nUM nhIN mMndI qy qusIN ies jnm qoN bfad iksy hor jnm, ijs bfry iksy nUM nhIN pqf, ikAuN gurU isDFq bxf rhy ho?

Auqr

qusIN ieh kho ky mYN ‘gurcrn isMG brfV’ punr jnm nUM nhIN mMndf. gurbfxI qF mMndI hY ijs dy hvfly ivwc mYN keI qukF df rYPrYNs mYN pihlF hI dy cukf hF

quhfzf pMjvF svfl:

bRfhmx dy zrfey hoey ihMdU muglF dy 1000 sfl qk gulfm rhy. gurU nfnk sfihb ny ajfdI dI pihlI lVfeI surU kIqI, lokfeI nUM zr ivcoN bfhr kwiZaf qy ajfdI pRfpq kIqI. iPr qoN iswK kOm nUM zr dy rfh qor ky pRO[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn ikqy iswKF dI agly 1000 sfl dI gulfmI df pwkf pRbMD qf nhIN kr rhy?

Auqr:

ieho ijhI ajfdI ik ‘ieh jnm imTf aglf iksy nf izTf’ quhfnUM mubfrk. ieho ijhI ajfdI qoN asIN gulfm cMgy.

quhfzy sB svflF dy jvfb hfjr hn. hux ikRpf kro. pRÈnfvlI cko aqy QoVHf ijhf hom vrk kro. ijafdf aOKf kMm nhIN hY. hF jF nF hI krnI hY. vIr krky hI Br idE.

hF Xfd afieaf jy qusIN afigaf dyE qF mYN vI quhfzy sbMD ivwc ilKIaF icTIaF sfry aKbfrF aqy mYgjIn leI CpxI dy idaF krF. mYN ieh kMm quhfzy qoN afigaf lY ky hI krFgf. quhfzy vFgUM corI iCpy ieho ijhf kMm krn dI mYnUM afdq nhIN.

qrlocn isMG

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avqfr isMG imÈnrI

(igafn crcf-ivcfr ivtFdrf)

pRo[ qrlocn isMG jI dy svflF dy jvfb ijnHF dy mgr svflIaf icMnH (?) nhIN hY.

gurmuKo! pMjfbI ilKx smyN pMjfbI dI ivafkrx vwl vI iKafl rwiKaf kro jI! DMnvfd.

afE afpF rl iml ky ivcfr krIey:-

(1) svfl-nfm ismrn dI koeI loV nhIN (hF/ nF)

jvfb-ismrn df arQ Xfd hY. akfl purK dI Xfd Bfv ismrn dI sdf loV hY.

(2) svfl-kIrqn dI loV hY (hF/nF)

jvfb-pRBU kIrqI dI sdf loV hY jo ibnf sfjF qoN vI kIqI jf skdI hY.

(3) svfl-iksy kfrj leI ardfs krn dI mhwqqf hY (hF/nF)

jvfb-hr ÈuB kfrj leI ardfs mhwqqf rwKdI hY.

(4) svfl-sfry sMq cfhy Auh pKMzI hn cfhy nhIN Auh Tg hn (hF/nF)

jvfb-glIN ijnHF jpmflIaF loty hiQ inbg] Eie hir ky sMq nf afKIaih bfnfrs ky Twg] (gurU gRMQ) gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivKy afey sMq Èbd nUM iksy vys-ByK aqy vwKrypn dI loV nhIN. ies leI pfKMzI aqy Twg Èbd Aus leI nhIN hn.

(5) svfl-ieh jnm imTf aglf iks ny izTf (hF/nF)

jvfb-imwTf qF Kf ky hI pqf cldf hY iekwlf imwTf imwTf kihx nfl nhIN-mITf mITf kih ijhvf nf svfd mITo afvY (Bf[ gu[) iesy qrHF asIN jnm jIvn nUM mfx ky hI imwTf kih skdy hF, khy khfey nhIN. aglf iksy vI nhIN izwTf ikAuNik vrqmfn hI dyiKaf jf skdf hY.

(6) svfl-gurbfxI ivwc ijQy vI pUrb lPj afieaf hY Auh iesy jnm nfl sMibDq hY (hF/nF)

jvfb-pUrb lPj iekwlf jnm nfl sbMDq nhIN smyN nfl vI hY. pUrb jnm Bfv jIvn df pihlf Bfg. pUrb df arQ pUrb idÈf vI hY-ies sMsfr ivwc keI qrHF dy jnm hn ijvyN bnspqI-pOidaF, kIiVaF-mkOiVaF, jnvrF-pÈUaF aqy mnuwKF afidk dy pr mnuwKf jnm hI durlwB hY-kbIr mfns jnm dulB hY hoie nf bfrMbfr] ijAuN bin Pl pfky BuieN igrih bhur nf lfgih zfir] (gurU gRMQ)

(7) svfl-grB Xoin aqy jnm ijnHf sbdF ivwc afey hn AuQy AunHF df mqlB iviafkrx anusfr nhIN hY (hF/nF)

jvfb-ÈbdF dy ÈuwD joV aqy ÈwD Aucfrx df nF hI ivafkrx hY iPr ienHF Èbdf df mqlv vI ivafkrxk qOr qy hI ÈuwD ho skdf hY.

(8) svfl-mrn AuprMq iensfn mukq ho jFdf hY cfhy Auh ikho ijhf vI ikAuN nf hovy (hF/nF)

jvfb-nhIN ikAuNik gurbfxI df vfk hY- mrxu mukiq ikin pfeI] gurmiq jIvn mukqI mMndI hY mrn bfad nhIN-hsMidaF, KylMidaF, pihnMidaF KfvMidaF ivcy hovy mukiq] (gurbfxI) ijMdy jIa bury kMmF, cuglI-inidaf, ivÈy-ivkfrF, moh-mfieaf, hAumY-hMkfr, jfq-pfq, CUaf-Cfq, vihm-Brm aqy JUT-Pryb afidkF qoN mukq hoxf hY. so iensfn ijho ijhf mrjI hovy mrn AuprMq hI koeI mukq nhIN huMdf.

(9) svfl-jy punr jnm aqy jonIaF nhIN hn, qF vI Drm dI loV hY (hF/nF)

jvfb-Drm df arQ cMgy inXmF aqy PrjLF dI pflxf hY. ies leI Drm dI jIvn ivwc sdf loV hY.

(10) svfl-kI iswK Drm df mqlB kyvl ikrq krnf, vMz Ckxf aqy jIvn df krYktr Aucf bxfAuxf hY, ijvyN ky kfmryz vIr vI krdy hn (hF/nF)

jvfb-iswK Drm dy sunihrI rUl hn-ikrq kro, vMz Cko aqy nfm jpo ies ivwc hI sB kuwJ af jFdf hY pr kfmryz rwb dI hoNd qoN mnukr ho ky Aus dI Xfd (nfm) qoN ieMnkfrI hn. krYktr AuWcf hI hoxf cfhIdf hY pr awj dy EnHF lMby coilaF, nMgIaF lwqF vfly krYtrlYs sMqF aqy aKOqI lIzrF nfloN kfmryz vI mfVy nhIN jo Drm df burkf pf ky lukfeI nUM gumrfh krdy hn.

avqfr isMG imÈnrI (510-432-5827)

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crnjIq isMG bwl

A Sinister Canard: ‘A Benchmark Write-up’

“No Book can be installed at par with Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji”

Charnjit Singh Bal

This write-up, a work of an anonymous writer, evidently a coward, signifies the relentless pursuit of the lobby, including fanatical Hindu elements; cultist and occultist Sikh elements, that professes, propagates and preaches an anonymous author/s’ work/s, the so-called dasam granth in its entirety.

While the diabolical motive of the zealous Hindu elements to propagate the so-called dasam granth, that contains Hindu mythology, Idolatry, Avatarism, polytheism, Occultism, eroticism as Sikh scripture to support their claim that the Sikhism as a sect of Hinduism is ominous, the ulterior motive of the dasam granth propagandist Sikh elements, marijuana partaking Nihangs, radical fundamentalists, Damdami Taksal/s, cultist Sant Samaj and sectarians occultist Sikh scholars, is dubious.

The sinister canard sent by the pesky sikhgroups to the undisclosed recipients and forwarded by the patshai10.org to its own E-mail address features websites www.patshahi10.com, www.santsipahi.org and the so-called PANTHIC MAGAZINE SANT SIPAHI. The editor of the Sant Sipahi magazine, Gurcharanjit Singh Lamba is an adamant advocate of dasam granth.

The dubious Benchmark Write-up’s anonymous author starts with Sikh Rehit Maryada’s clause ‘No Book can be installed at par with Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’ and states, “The text and its intent are awfully simple and there is no scope of any confusion about it. But lately it is seen that this clause is being distorted and misinterpreted. Hence this sincere effort to clear the doubts.”

“Lately, some anti-Sikh forces have misused and misinterpreted this clause of Sikh Rehit Maryada and have used it as a tool to attack the banees of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib contained in Sri Dasam Granth.”

This is epitome (prime example) of duplicitous rhetoric of the haywire propagandists of apocryphal scripture, dasam granth, incompatible with Sikhism’s quintessential theology and pragmatic religiosity, accusing the latter’s proponents of distortion and misinterpretation. And what is more anti-Sikhism than lending support to fanatical Hindu elements’ nefarious cause to incorporate Sikhism into Hinduism and expunge its unique independent identity?

According to the devious author, “First of all this provision (clause) in the Sikh Rehit Maryada is about the Maryada that is to be followed in the Gurdwaras. There is an obvious difference between a Gurdwara and a Takhat and their Maryada. A takhat is not a Gurdwara and vice versa”.

Up until early 1920s there was no such Sikh institution called Takhat. Even the present Akal Takhat was called Akal Bunga and it was staffed with Pujaris working under Sri Harmadir complex’s Sarbrah (manager) appointed by the British Government. And Talwandi Sabo, now the Damdama Takhat was in the territorial jurisdiction of Maharaja of Patiala, Rajinder Singh who gave it as his sister’s dowry to Jiwan Singh of Shahzadpur. It remained in his family’s possession as its personal property till 1965. [See Punjab History Conference, 17-19 March 1989]

“The Granth of the Sikhs that embodies the warrior spirit of the Khalsa is Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. Hence, it is not an exaggeration to propose that Sri Dasam Granth has the same status with relation to Sri Guru Granth Sahib what Sri Akal Takhat Sahib has to Sri Harmandir Sahib.”

There is no historical account or Sikh tradition mentioning that there was a dasam granth or that Guru Gobind Singh ever preached from it. The Sikh Panth was saddled with this, so-called dasam granth, fraught with mystery and controversy, only after the Guru-period. Could its proponents tell us, what was the source of valiant spirit of the Sikhs of Guru Hargobind who fought and won four battles against the Moghul imperial forces?

“Parkash simply means to open a granth for the purpose of reciting (pfT), studying (aiDaYn), teaching (AupdysL), and discourse (iviKafn). Without opening or parkash of the granth, none of the above can be done. So the usage of word parkash should not be narrowed down literally otherwise if we say that in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib nothing else can be parkashed then will it bring the dahrah parkash (flowing beard) under its mischief too?”

What an idiotic logic? What is the commonality between a flowing beard and opening a scripture to recite, study, teach and discourse? The recitation, study, teaching and discourse of the universal Sikh scriptural anthology, Guru Granth Sahib, authored by Sikh Gurus and venerated Hindu and Muslim holy sages, exalts Sikh/seeker’s spiritual consciousness and facilitates report (harmony) with the ultimate reality, the God. Can a flowing beard match it?

“According to Kesar Singh Chibber, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib had himself defined and explained the relationship between Sri Guru Granth Sahib and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. And this Guru-vaak should be our guiding force.

‘Cotf gRMQ jI dsvyN pfqsLfh ky Dfm. …bcn kIqf “gRMQ sfihb hY Auh, ieh asfzI Kyz hY”.

…sy dono gRMQ sfihb BfeI gur ikr jfno. vzf hY itkf guru gutky poQIaF puqR poqRy kir pCfno.’

Kesar Singh belonged to the Pundits’ sub-caste Chhibber. He was a Brahmin at heart and a pseudo-Sikh. His literary works designed to portray Sikhism as an offshoot of Hinduism, exemplify his Brahminical inclinations. According to Sohan Singh Seetal,

kysr isMG iCwbr dI ilKq pUrI qrHF ihMdU mwq asr Qwly hY. Kfs krky mnUM isimRqI df Auhdy mn Auwqy bhuq asr hY. gurU goibMd isMG jI dy hukm ‘mfns kI jfq sBY eykY pihcfnbo’ dy Ault Auh bRfhmx jfqI nUM dUsiraF nfloN Auwqm mMndf hY. eyQoN qk ik bRfhmx bMs ivc hox kfrn Auh afpxy afp nUM Auwqm kihMdf hY.

Auqm jfmf bRhmn hY. bMsfvlI nfmf, crx 14, 630

jo bRfhmn iswK hovY iqs df afdr snmfn bVf krnf. crx 10, 348

nOvyN gurU jI df ijLkr kridaF lyKk kihMdf hY,

"apnI KusLI koeI lfhy jMjU, apnI KusLI koeI pfvy."

"aMimRqsr srovr dI byadbI hoeI qy lyKk pMzqF qoN hom krfky Aus nUM pivqr krdf hY. iPr gurU arjn dyv jI nUM ‘kuMqI puwqr arjn’ df avqfr mMndf hY. ieh sB kuC igx imQ ky iksy socI smJI cfl anusfr kIqf igaf jfpdf hY. lyKk pusqk df afrMB hI dyvI dyviqaF dI arfDnf qoN krdf hY."

siqgur purK mnfiekY pUjo sgl dyv. irK qpsI ky crn lg sPl hmfrI syv.1.

mfqf gAurI mnfiekY sursqI pUjo mfq. bfk bfnI ky crn lg kIjY bcn hmfrf sfq.2]

gAurI pUq gnys jI ibnqI sunaY ieih. Bul cUk mm iKmf kr buD Aujl kr dyih.3. crx 1, sohx isMG sIql, iswKL ieiqhfs dy somyN, pMnf 182-183

The only reason that the ‘Benchmark Write-up’s’ devious author can get away with such blatant lies and heresies is because of Sikhism’s incompetent, self-serving temporal leadership that is preoccupied with grabbing and securing seats of authority.

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mihMdr isMG

afdrnIX vIr gurcrn isMG jI, ircIpfl isMG jI aqy amirMdr isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf,

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

mY afp df Cotf vIr mihMdr isMG, rocYstr inAU Xfrk qoN, afp sB nUM iewk svfl krn dI gusqfKI krn jf irhF hF. koiÈÈ krn dy bfvËUd vI mY ies df Kud jvfb nhINN soc sikaf qy gurU gRMQ sihb `coN mY Kud ies df jvfb lwB skF eynI myrI smrwQf nhIN hY. so ies krky ieh svfl mYN ‘iswK mfrg’ qy lY ky afieaf hF.

akfl purKu dy jo rwbI gux ny Auh sfry mUl mMqr ivwc ies qrF ibafn kIqy gey ny.

ÃÄ siq nfmu krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]

iehnf coN iewk gux akfl purKu dI inrvYru hsqI hox leI vI hY. svfl myrf hY jo ieh jnm-mrn dI ivcfr crcf clH rhI hY Aus dy muqwilk.

agr aglf jnm nhIN hY qy akfl purKu nUM asIN isrP qy isrP iesI jnm ivwc hI pfxf hY, ijs qrHF gurU arjn dyv jI PurmfAuNdy ny ik:

BeI prfpiq mfnuK dyhurIaf] goibMd imlx kI ieh qyrI brIaf]

qF iPr sfiraF nUM ieko ijMnI lfeIP ikAuN nhIN imldI ik Auh vI rwb nUM pfx df Audm kr skdy? ijs qrHF mn nUM bhuq duKFx vflI Gtxf ieÈmIq isMG nfl vfprI hY. keI bwcy jMmdy hI mr jFdy hn qy keI bhuq hI CotI Aumr c. kI rwb AuhnF nUM dUbfrf mokf nhIN dyvygf ik Auh vI Aus akfl purKu dI Ausqq kr skx qy gurU dy Èbd dI ivcfr krky afpxf jIvn imafr ieMnf AuWcf krn ik Auh vI Aus akfl purKu dI hsqI nfl iek-imwk ho skx?

agr ies qrHF nhIN hY qy iPr akfl purKu dy inrvYru gux dI sfnUM ikMJ smJ afvy?

(agr qusI iqnoN hI ies df AuWqr dyvoNgy qF iqMn different views nfl gwl smJx `c ijafdf asfnI hovygI)

afp df Cotf vIr,

mihMdr isMG

rocYWstr, inXU Xfrk

585-503-5328

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srvjIq isMG

po: qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI,
vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

afp jI ny afpxy pwqr ivwc gurcrn isMG jI nUM 10 svfl kIqy hn aqy ieh vI hukm kIqf hY ik ienHF svflF dy jvfb hF jF nF ivwc hI idwqy jfx. BfvyN ieh mslf afp jI aqy gurcrn isMG df hI hY pr afp ny afpxy pwqr dI afKrI pMgqI rfhI iswK mfrg dy sfry pfTkF nUM KuwlF swdf vI idwqf hY. afp jI ilKdy ho, "myrI sfry vIrF BfeI BYxF aqy sMgq nUM bynqI hY ky Auh ieh pRÈnfvlI ivwc hF jF nF Br ky isK mfrg qy Byjx qF jo gurU isDfqF dI smJ af sky."

ieh ivcfr crcf afp vlo ilKy gey iewk lyK ‘krmf sMdVf Kyqu’ qo arMB hoeI sI. ies ivcfr crcf ivwc buhq sfry vIrF ny Bfg vI ilaf pr afpF iksy nqIjy qy nhI phuMc sky. ikENik afp jI puCy gey svflF df jvfb dyx dI bjfey awgo nvF hI svfl kr idMdy rhy. afp jI ny myry iewk svfl dy jvfb ivwc iliKaf sI, "qusIN mYƒ prK rhy ho ik myry qy gruV purfx df asr hY ik nhIN. ies leI qukF dy arQ puCy hn. ieh prK ikAuN? prK Auh lYNdf hY ijs ƒ pUrn igafn huMdf hY jF prK lYNdf hY gurU. ies leI mYƒ smJ nhIN af rhI ky kI qusIN myry gurU ho jF quhfƒ pUrn igafn hY. ilK Byjxf qF mYN arQ kr dyvFgf nhIN qF pRo: sfihb isMG jI dy arQ pVH lYxf."

po: qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI, ies qo pihlf ky afp jI dy svflF bfry ivcfr arMB kIqI jfvy kI mY afp nUM afp df hI AupRokq svfl puC skdf hF? hux qusI iks hYsIaq ivwc sfnUM ieh svfl puC rhy ho? kI asI afp dy ividafrQI hF jo afp sfzf iqmfhI/iCmfhI iemiqhfn lY rhy ho? afp jI ilKdy ho, "myrI sfry vIrF BfeI BYxF aqy sMgq nUM bynqI hY ky Auh ieh pRÈnfvlI ivwc hF jF nF Br ky isK mfrg qy Byjx qF jo gurU isDfqF dI smJ af sky" ieQy ieh vI ilK dyxf sI ik jy PlfxI qrIK qFeI jvfb nf afey qF quhfnUM Pyl kr idwqF jfvygf, awgo afp df dfKlf nhI Byijaf jfvygf, quhzf nfm hI kwt idwqf jfvygf, vgYrf-vgYrf.

po: qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI, ies gwl dI kI grMtI hY ik hux, quhfzy svflF qy ivcfr kridaf jo nvy svfl pYdf hoxgy, afp jI AunHF svflF dy jvfb idEgy? aKIr ivwc mY Pyr spwÈt kr idaf ik jo svfl afp ny mYnUM kIqf sI mY Auh svfl hI quhfnUM kr irhf hF. afp jI dy bcn, "ieh prK ikAuN? prK Auh lYNdf hY ijs ƒ pUrn igafn huMdf hY jF prK lYNdf hY gurU. ies leI mYƒ smJ nhIN af rhI ky kI qusIN myry gurU ho jF quhfƒ pUrn igafn hY." ies df jvfb dyx dI Kycl krnI jI qF jo ies ivcfr crcf nUM AusfrU qrIky nfl awgy qoiraf jf sky.

afdr sihq
srvjIq isMG

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(30/07/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

pRo[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn jvfb dyx qoN Bwjy Aultf sfvl pfey qy kIqI koJI cfl.

pRo[ mhfjn jI ies nUM kihMdy hn: krqUiq psU kI mfns jfiq] pMnf 267] ijqnI dyr qusIN mYNnUM myry pfey svflF df jvfb nhIN idMdy ik:

svfl 1[ kUMjF nfm ikvyN jpdIaF hn?

2[ jy kudrq nhIN cfhuMdI ik sfnUM kudrq bfry koeI pqf cwly qF gurU nfnk sfihb nUM ikvyN pqf cwilaf ik:

afsf mhlf 1] pAuxu Aupfie DrI sB DrqI jl agnI kf bMDu kIaf] aMDulY dhisir mUMzu ktfieaf rfvxu mfir ikaf vzf Bieaf] 1] {pMnf 350}

3[ albrt afeinÈtfeIn, inAUtn qy hor sfeIsdfnF nUM kudrqI inXmF bfry jfxkfrI ikvyN hoeI? ,

4[ ihMdUmwq df Pyhl hoieaf ‘krmF isDFq’ qusIN iswK Drm nUM ivgfVn, vfsqy iswK Drm df aMg ikAuN bfxfAuxf cfhUMdy ho?

5[ gurbfxI punrp jnm nUM nhIN mMndI qy qusIN ies jnm qoN bfad iksy hor jnm, ijs bfry iksy nUM nhIN pqf, ikAuN gurU isDFq bxf rhy ho?

6[ bRfhmx dy zrfey hoey ihMdU muglF dy 1000 sfl qk gulfm rhy. gurU nfnk sfihb ny ajfdI dI pihlI lVfeI surU kIqI, lokfeI nUM zr ivcoN bfhr kwiZaf qy ajfdI pRfpq kIqI. iPr qoN iswK kOm nUM zr dy rfh qor ky pRO[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn ikqy iswKF dI agly 1000 sfl dI gulfmI df pwkf pRbMD qf nhIN kr rhy?

7[ ipCly jnm df agly jnm ivwc Pl imldf hY qF gurU arjn pfqÈfh, gurU qyg bhfdr, gurU goibMd isMG, mfqf gujrI, cfroN sfihbjfdy, ÈhId mqI dfs, ÈhId sqI dfs, ÈhId dieaflf jI, BfeI mnI isMG aqy hor lwKF ÈhId ijhVy afiraF nfl cIry gey, ijnHF ny KoprIaF luhfeIaF, puTIaF KwlF AuqrvfeIaF quhfzy muqfbk Auh ÈhId nhIN hoey AunHF nUM AunHF dy ipCly jnm dI sjf imlI hY. iesdf Auqr awj qk nhIN afieaf?

quhfnUM myrI shUlq leI kuwJ krn dI loV nhIN. bs jldI jldI jvfbF dy Zyr lf idE qF ik afpxI bihs awgy cwldI jfey.

pRo[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI iswKF dy 99% ihwsy nUM iswK isDFq bfry koeI jxkfrI nhIN. AunHF lokF qoN koeI srvy krvf ik qusIN afpxf ikhVf rihMdf mMqv hwl krnf cfhuMdy ho? bfkI[ 25% ihsf iswK Drm nUM ihMdU mwq dIaF aYnkF lf ky hwQ mflf qy mOlI, hvn, llyr, lfl cuMnI, aKMz pfT krvf krvf ik quhfzy vfly svrg ivwc jfx dIaF iqafrIaF `c hY, [ 5% nf ieDr nf AuDr bfry bolx leI iqafr hY qy bfkI[ 25% iswK Drm dI gwl krdf hY. ho skdf hY ik[ 25% qoN vI Gwt lok iswK Drm dI jfxkfrI rwKdy hox. ieh qF myrf aMdfjf hI hY.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

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(30/07/08)
suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQI

vloN suKdyv isMG jI aqy sfQI

srdfr ieMdrjIq isMG Gwgf jI nUM kuwJ svfl

gurU Piqh pRvfn krnI jI.

(1) srdfr sfihb quhfzy ilKy anusfr: nfm ismrn bfry "mYN qF gurbfxI nUM hI nfm svIkfrdf hF. gurbfxI dI iswiKaf qoN vwKrF koeI nfm nhIN hY. ies bfry hr lyKk dI phuMc alwg-alwg hY. hF jy nfm ismr ky koeI krfmfqI ÈkqIaF af jFdIaf hn qF ieh nfm ismrn df dm Brn vfly vIr nfm duafrf pMQ dy ivgVy kfrj sMvfr ky ivKfAux" qusI gurbfxI dI isiKaf nUM hI nfm ismrn ds rhy ho. jrf dsogy ik gurbfxI dI isiKaf kI hY. ijQoN qk sfnUM pqf hY ky sc bolxf aqy kfm kRoD loB moh hMkfr qoN bcxf hI gurbfxI dI isiKaf hY. kI ieh isiKaf aqy nfm ieko gl hY. jrf ivsQfr pUrvk dso jI. ijQoN qk Xfd afAuNdf hY iewk mugl bfdÈfh ny vI iesy Bgq nUM ikhf sI ik mrI gAU jIvflo qF vyKFgy qyry nfm df asr. qF srdfr sfihb kI qusI vI mugl bfdsfh ho jF hrnfKs ho jrf Kul ky smJfE jI.

(2)srdfr sfihb qusI ardfs dI qfkq nUM nhIN mMndy qusF iliKaf: "nfm dI qfkq nUM nhIN mMndf"- "gurU nfnk sfihb jI nUM lMmf smF imhnq krnI peI. smfj dy dwBy kucly lokF nUM igafn vMizaf aqy ÈkqIÈlI bxfieaf. ÈhIdIaF hoeIaF, GwlUGfry vfpry, isrF dy muwl pey…[ . nfm dI ÈkqI nfl ieh kqlfm ikAuN nhI roky jf sky? duÈmxF nUM hiQafrF nfl mfrn dI kI loV sI? nfm dI qfkq nfl mfr idwqf jFdf. mOjUdf smyN dy (84) GwlUGfry vkq BI kI koeI nfm jpx vflf ivafkqI nhI sI jo nfm dI ÈkqI nfl ies kqlfm nUM rok skdf? akfl qKq df Zihxf aqy hËfrF mfeIaF BfeIaF df mrnf kI nfm dI skqI nfl nhI sI roikaf jf skdf? iswKF qy jo Gor musIbqF Ausy qrHF KVIaF ny hY koeI nfm ismrn vflf jo ienHF nUM Kqm kr dyvy?"

avqfr isMG jI quhfzy ivcoN hn Auh qF ardfs dI qfkq nUM mMndy hn. aqy ieh dso ik qusI ardfs nfl rwb ikAuN bxnf cfhuMdy qF ky jo vI ardfs kro Auh pUrI ho jfey. jy ievyN hoieaf qF qy qusI rwb ho jfEgy. ardfs nUM qusI ikMnf ssqf rhy ho, ieh asIN soc vI nhIN skdy. kl nUM iewk sLrfbI ardfs krygy ik Aus dy agy ipCy boqlF dy Zk lg jfxgy, iewk lflcI ardfs krygf ky Aus dI lftrI inkl jfey qF kI ieh sB rb nUM mMjUr hoeygf. kl nUM qusIN ardfs krogy ky sfry pfsy isK hI isK hox hor koeI hoxf hI nhIN cfhIdf qF Pyr!

ikRpf krky smJdfr bxo. ardfs dI qfkq qy pRÈn icMn nf lfvo. nhIN qF nqIjf vI Bugqxf pY skdf hY. vyKxf ikqy quhfnUM vI nf ardfs krnI pY jfey.

suKdyv isMG

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(30/07/08)
hrijMdr isMG

pRo qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

pRo: jI! Bgq kbIr sfihb Aus isDFq nUM pUrI qrHF nkfrdy hn ijs krm isDFq nUM qusIN gurmiq df krm isDFq dws rhy ho. pRo: sfihb isMG ny ivafiKaf TIk kIqI hY pr quhfnMU hI smJ nhIN pY rhI hY jF ik qusIN afp vI "mY n mfnMU" qy aVy hoey ho. hux qusIN afp hI dwso ik ikwQy Bgq kbIr jI krm isDFq dI hfmI Brdy hn qy ikwQy pRo: sfihb isMG? pRo mhfjn jI, aYvyN hI ies nUM gurmiq df isDFq nf bxfAu. dfs ny pihlF vI bynqI kIqI sI ik qusIN "drpx" df sihj pfT kro qy nfl hI "gruV purfx" df aiDan vI kro, quhfnUM vI ies sfry afvfgvx dy rwhs df qy krm isDFq df pqf lwg jfvygf ik gurmiq kI kihMdI hY.

AuWqr dI AuzIk ivc.

hrijMdr isMG

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(29/07/08)
avqfr isMG

It is very interesting to read Professor Trilochan Singh Mahajan and S.Gurcharan Singh Jeonwala

 about "Karma sandra khet" . S.Gurcharan Singh has answered precisely the very important questions being raised by the sikhs today.Most of the sikhs have least knowledge of sikh history especially about the events between 1708to 1925. The Sikhs have been lead to follow the Hindu rituals instead of Gurmat Sidhant, the teachings of our Guru. The teaching, preaching and interpretation of Gurbani has remained in the hands of those who were originally trained to teach Hindu Philosophy.

1-Simran does not mean reciting of Gurbani two or three hours a day instead it is to remember the virtues of God all times.

2- Keertan and Keerat is not necessary to sing Gurbani with musical instruments instead it is to speak about the virtues of God.

3-A prayer plays an important and constructive part in our daily life giving us belief and strength.

4- Bhagat Kabir has warned us about so called Saints.

5- This is only the present life one can achieve fulfilment .Gurmat teaches us about present life nothing to do about past life and future life.

7-Letter and spirit will have to be put togather to understand Gurbani and not forgetting the religious and social values of the people of the time.

8-Gurmat teaches us to attain salvation "Mukti" during this life and not after death.

9-Gurmat teach us to achieve perfection "sachiara". without religion a human could be like "Kartoot pashoo ki manas jaat".

10-A comrade can not get rid of ego which is the root cause of ills.Where as a Gurmukh, who follows the teachings of Guru will be thankful to God for all his achievements.

Regards.

Avtar Singh.

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{not:- ipCly hor pwqr pVHn leI aYro (qIr) nUM kilk kro jI}

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