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(24/10/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Moderator S. Makhan Singh jee,

In view of the latest controversy about celebration of Gurta Gaddi Divas of the Guru Granth Sahib i.e. on 20 October or 30 October, we may read Pauri 33 under Vaar 1 of Bhai Gurdas - “Baba Aakhaiy Haziaan Shubh Amlaan Bajhoan Dono Roiee”

It equally applies to the custodians of Sikh religion because 3ooth year neither falls on 20 October nor on 30 October. It should have been celebrated on 7 October (1708 - 2008).

Hence, we all ld repent over our misdeeds by distorting all the past dates based on Bikrami / Saka Calendar starting from Chaitra Lunar month.

The Sikh Diaspora should make use of their discerning intellect and stop imitating the goluck paid officials and employees.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(24/10/08)
bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

srdfr suKdyv isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

vIr jI, quhfzI gwl iblkul TIk hY, svfsf dI zor df kI pqf ik kdoN akfl purKu kwt dvy. pr myry iKafl ivc, jF jo mYN smiJaf hF Auh ieh, ik iewk qF akqUbr df mhInF, gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df gurqfgwdI idvs smfgm mnfAux df mhInF hY. dUjf ijvyN ky sfry hI jfxdy hn, krmF, jUnF, aqy afqmF dI bihs jF ivcfr dy kfrn kfPI kuVwqxqf af geI sI, so srdfr mwKx isMG jI, Èfied ieh vI cfhuMdy hn, ky Gto Gt ies mhIny aYsI koeI vI gwl nF hovy ijs nfl qkrfr ivwc vfDf hovy.

iesy hI qkrfr jF kuVwqxqf dy kfrn srdfr mwKx isMG jI nUM keI pfTkF pfsoN jo jo suxnF ipaf, pVH ky keI vfr qF mn eynF duKI hoieaf, ky idwl kIqf ky mwKx isMG jI nUM ilK dyvF, ky byÈwk qusIN cfho qF vYWbsfeIt nUM awpzyt krnF bMd kr dyvo. hflF ky mYN srdfr jI nUM byNnqI kr cuwkf hF ky kdy vI vYWbsfeIt nUM bMd nF krnF.

sMpfdkI not pVH ky pqf cilaf, qusI ikAuN bfr bfr iewk hI gwl nUM duhrFAuNdy ho, dUjf myrI bynqI hY ik mYN sMgq df syvk hF. afpxyN vwloN qF gurU nfnk dI syvf smJ ky hI ieh swB ilK irhf hF. iksy dI ispfrÈ nfl mYN iewk awKr vI nhIN ilK skdf. nF mYN iksy df pwK lYNdf hF, aqy nF hI mYN iksy df ivroDI hF. myry sfry hI imwqr hn, mYN sfiraF df dosq hF.

gurbfxIN df ivcfr krdy smyN, pUrb iliKaf, pUrblf krm, afqmF, jUnF, afid df ijkr afAuxF qF suBfivk hI hY ijvyN ik  nfnk nfmu iDafieaf] pUrib iliKaf pfieaf] aqy ieh vI suBfivk hI hY, ik jo mYN ilKdf hF, gurmwq anusfr myrI ilKI gwl iksy ilKfrI dI pihly ilKI jf cuwkI gwl nfl myl nF KFdI hovy. qF Auh ilKfrI ies gwl df ivcfr krn dI QF gusf kr lvy, byÈwk ky ies qoN pihly mYN Aus dIaF keI gwlF nfl mYN sihmqI vI jqf cuwkf hovF, pr Aus nUM ieh jfpy ky mYN Aus df ivroDI hF. ieh vI iewk smwisaf hY.

so vIr jI, svfl cfhy jo vI puwC lYxF, pr kuwJ ilKx dI ispfrÈ kdy nF krnF, ieh myrI bynqI hY jI.

quhfzf vIr,

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

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(23/10/08)
Kflsf nfrI mMc

gurU ipafry Kflsf jI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kI Ìiqh]

afp sB ies gwl qoN cMgI qrHF jfxU ho ik òú akqUbr nUM nfnkÈfhI kYlMzr anusfr smucf iswK jgq óúú sflf gurqfgdI smfgm mnf cuikaf hY, pr afpxy afp nUM pMQ df ihwsf sfbq krx vflI ihMdU soc dI DfrxI afr[ aYs[ aYs[ dI ÈfKf rfÈtrI iswK sMgq afpxy ikqfbcy vMz ky iswK sMgqF nUM óú akqUbr òúúø nUM gurqfgwdI smfgm ivwc vwD cVH ky hËUr sfihb afAux dy KulHy swdy dy rhI hY aqy sMgqF qoN mfieaf btorn dy vsIly vI ieMnHF lokF ny afpxy ikqfbcy ivwc Cfipaf hoieaf hY.

gurU nfnk dI ‘sc kI bylf’ dy ivroDIaF dI iswKI dy vyVy ivwc hwdoN vwD GuspYT icMqf df ivÈf hY. ikAuNik sfzy afpxy Gr dy ienHF nfl sFJ pfeI bYTy hn. ies vkq kOm nUM sMBflx pRqI sfzf PrË dugxf ho jFdf hY ikAuNik duÈmx sfzy Gr idaF nUM nfl lY ky sfzy iswKI `qy hmlf krn quiraf hY.

gurU nfnk nfm lyvf pMQ drdI ies gwl qoN cMgI qrHF jfxU hn ik AunHF dy jIvn df afDfr kyvl gurU gRMQ sfihb dI isiKafvF hn pr nfnk dI klm hyT JUTI qy aÈlIl rcnf bicqr nftk aKOqI dsm gRMQ nUM pMjfb qoN bfhrly dovyN qKqF Auqy pRkfÈ kIqf jf irhf hY aqy aijhy asQfn qy ÈqfbdI smfgm mnfey jf rhy hn ijQy gurmiq isDfqF nUM bRfhmxI krm kFzf rfhIN rwj ky muMh icVfieaf jFdf hY.

iswKF dI isrmOr sMsQf sRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI aqy pMQ nUM Korf lfAux vfly afpxy Kfsm-Kfs afkf bfdl sfihb dy ipClgU avqfr isMG mwkV qF ieh aYlfn kr cuwky hn ik Auh hËUr sfihb dy gurqfgwdI smfgmF qoN iks qrHF dUr rih skdy hn. so AunHF df bfdl pRym qF sfbq kr cuwkf hY ik Auh iswK rihq mirafdf aqy nfnkÈfhI klYNzr nUM pYrF hyT rONd ky vI AuQy Èfml hoxgy. rhI gwl pMjfb dy qÉqF dy jQydfrF dI[ [ AunHF ivcfiraF df qy hfl hI nf puCo, so rih jFdy hn ds nhUMaF dI ikrq krn vfly gurU nfnk dy ikrqI iswK, hux AunHF df PrË bx jFdf hY ik Auh hËUr sfihb ivwc sdIaF qoN clI af rhI ies byadbI iKlfÌ zwt ky afvfË cuwkx.

afmqOr `qy asIN ÈhId Aus nUM kihMdy hF jo Ëulm qy Ëbr iKlfP lVdy hoey afpxI jfn dy bYTy. pr gurU nfnk dI iswKI ivwc ÈhIdI df arQ bhuq hI zuMGf hY. ienHF ÈhIdF ivwc pihlF nF bfby nfnk df afAuNdf hY ikAuNik AunHF ny sc dI gvfhI BrI “bfbr nUM Ëfbr” ikhf.

awj muV loV hY gurU nfnk dy iswK dI ÈhIdI dI, loV hY sc dI gvfhI Brn vfly dI, loV hY bfbr nUM Ëfbr afKx vfly dI.

kI gurU nfnk df iswK cuwp qF nhI rhygf?

iek aËIË afpxI klm dy bolF rfhI

gurU dy ipafiraF nUM PrË pRqI jgfAuNdy hoey bfKUbI ilKdy hn :-

jfgo vy jfgo suiqE! jfgo gurU dy ipafirE! !

awj muV quhfzI loV hY E sc dy vxjfirE!

awj Kyq mirafdf df kcI vfV ny hY Kf ilaf

kr ky mGory cOqrPf, pÈUaF ny Gyrf pf ilaf

iek hY ‘isafsq’ df pÈU, dUjf hY ‘zyrydfr’ df

qIjf ‘pUjfrIvfd’ df, cOQf hY ‘sMG pirvfr’ df

AuTo vy AuTo rfiKE ieMnHF nUM QohVf qfiVE (qfVnf kro)

awj muV quhfzI loV hY, E sc dy vxjfirE!

-gurU pMQ dI syvk jQybMdI

Kflsf nfrI mMc

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(23/10/08)
bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ hFg kFg

akflI dl bnfm ieMdrf gFDI

1984 df kfrf jo ieMdrf gFDI ny kIqf sI Auh iksy nUM dwsx dI loV nhI. akflI dl hmyÈF hI ieMdrf dy ivruwD bol ky votF lYdf irhf hY. hirmMdr sihb jI dI by-adbI nF shfrdy hoey anykF isMG ÈhId hoey. iswK julm brdfÈq nhIN krdf, akfl qKq ZfhuMx dI kfrvfhI suxky afp dI roËI rotI nUM lwq mfr ky POjI bYrkF Cwz ky Bwj afey keI POjI asqIPy dy ky Gr af gey ijMnHF ivwco dfs vI iewk hY. Bwj ky afey POjI jo ik awj rotI nUM qrs rhy hn. koeI AuhnF dI sfr nhI lY irhf. 1984 dy dMgy krn vfilaF nUM bhuq QoVy afdmIaF nUM nF mfqr sËf imlI hY qy dMgy krvfAux vfly tfeItlr vrigaF df vfl vI ivMgf nhI hoieaf sfzIaF afsF sn ik akflI srkfr jrUr 31 akqUbr 1984 ivwc dMgy krn vfilaF nUM lMmy hwQI lvygI pr awj “mIzIaf zft kfm” qy pVky bhuq hI duwK hoieaf ik bfdlky 31 akqUbr nUM ieMdrf gFDI dI brÈI mnF rhy hn. iliKaf ies vfr bfdl srkfr “mrhUm sRI mqI ieMdrf gFDI dI brÈI rfÈtr sMklp idvs vjo mnfeygI”. kI sMklp lYxgy ik dunIaF eyvy hI by gunfh mrdI rhy qy gwdI qy kfbË afdmI by-gunFhF nUM mrvfAudy rihx koeI puwCx vflf nhI. iehnF ny kI 1984 dy dMigaF krvfAux vfilaF nUM sËfvF idvfAuxIaF ieh qF ieMdrf dIaF brÈIaF mnF rhy hn. kursI dI Kfqr bMdy nUM kI kuwC krnF pYdf hY! cor nF kuwqI rlI af. doKy Xfro ieMdrf dI brÈI mnfAuidaF nUM bfdlikaF nUM jmF Èrm nhI afAuNdI. so iswK mfrg dy swjxo afpxIaF ilKqF duafrf ieMdrf dI akflIaF vwlo brsI mnfAux df zt ky ivroD kro. Èfied bfdlikaF nUM sLrm af hI jfvy. ieh brsI nF mnfeI jfvy kI akfl qKq qo koeI hukm nfmF jfrI nhIN ho skdf? bYNcF dI bjfey Qwly bYT ky lMgr Ckx df hukm nfmF qF bVI CyqI krky lfgU krvf idwqf so hux vI hukm nfmF jfrI krky (Iindera gandhi death anniversary) rukvfAux. so lyKk sihbfn nUM cfhIdf hY ik afpxIaF ilKqF ËrIey ies iGrfAuxI hrkq qy cfnxF pfAux. aglf jnm qy ipClf jnm dI bihs Cwz ky.

iKmF df jfck dfs-

bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ hFg kFg PUn-852-94445134

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(22/10/08)
suKdyv isMG phUivMz

vIr bldyv isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kI Éflsf

vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih]

vIr jI ieh qy cMgI gwl hY ik qusI sMpfdk sfihb dI kIqI bynqI qy aml kr rhy ho qy krmF, jUnF aqy afqmf bfry ivcfr qusI akqUbr dy mhIny qoN bfad krogy. pr myrI bynqI hY afp nUM ik agr quhfzy kol juvfb iqafr hY qy ikRpf krky sMpfdk sfihb qo ieËfËq ly ky Aus nUM jldI qo jldI pfAu ikAuNik svfsf dI zor df kI pqf ik kdoN akfl purKu kwt dvy. nyk kMm ivwc dyr nhI krnI cfihdI. sfnUM afpdy jvfb df bysbrI nfl ieMqËfr rhygf.

suKdyv isMG phUivMz

(sMpfdkI not:- afqmf bfry sfnUM pRo: gurbcn isMG jI QfeIlYNz vfilaF dy kuwJ lyK puwj cuwky hn Auhnf dy lyK Cpx qoN bfad hI ieh ivcfr dubfrf sLurU kIqI jf skdI hY pihlF nhIN.

suKdyv isMG jI quhfzy ies pwqr qoN ibnf iek hor pwqr vI awj imilaf hY ijhVf ik aMgryjLI ivc sI. Auh pwqr qusIN sfnUM keI vfrI Byj cuwko ho. asIN iek vfrI Aus nUM pf ik jvfb vI dy idwqf sI. sfnUM nhIN smJ afAuNdI ik qusIN vfr-vfr AuhI gwlF ikAuN ilK rhy ho. Aus pwqr ivc qusIN ies pMny dy Aupr pfeIaF hoeIaF PotoaF nUM htfAux bfry ilKdy ho. quhfzy qoN ibnf hor iksy ny koeI ieqrfjL nhIN kIqf. Auhnf PotoaF pAux df muwK mksd iehI hY ik qKLqF dy pujfrIaF df BY mn ivcoN kwZ ky dsvyN gurU nfnk dI byiejLqI krn vflIaF ilKqF ivruwD avfjL blMd kIqI jf sky. ieh Poto AuhnF dIaF hI hn ijhnF ny avfjL bulMd kIqI aqy pujfrIaF df BY nhIN mMinaF. jy kr akfl qKLq dy pujfrI ptny vfly pujfrI dy nfl KVy huMdy, ijhVf ik afr[ aYWs[ aYWs[ dy kuwJ ijafdf hI nyVy hY, qF asIN pRo: drsLn isMG dI vI Poto nfl pf dyxI sI.

asIN pihlF vI keI vfrI ilK cuwky hF ik ‘iswK mfrg’ sB dI sFJI sfeIt hY iewQy koeI vI Aucf jF nIvF nhIN. iewQy qF rfxf rMk brfbrI vflf vrqfE hY. ies sfeIt nUM Auh vI ilKdy aqy pVHdy hn ijhVy ik keI dhfikaF qoN gurmiq df pRcfr kr rhy hn aqy Auh vI ilKdy pVHdy hn ijhVy ik hfly gurmiq iswKx dy skUl ivc dfKl hI hoey hn. ies leI keIaF nUM qF iewQy CpdIaF keI ilKqF df stYNzrz hlkf lgdf hY aqy keIaF nUM sLfied keI ilKqF smJ hI nhIN afAuNdIaF. ies nUM hr koeI afpxI soc anusfr hI dyKxf cfhuMdy hn jo ik asIN nhIN kr skdy. iek gwl asIN iPr duhrf idMdy hF ik asIN nf qF zyiraF vfly sfDF nUM mMndy hF aqy nf hI iksy gwpI kiQq mhFpursFL nUM. ieh sB hI dsm gRMQIey hn aqy gurU ky inMdk hn jo ik GtIaf ilKqF gurU dy nfm nfl joVdy hn. asIN iksy vI pfTk/lyKk nUM mjLbUr nhIN krdy ik Auh ‘iswK mfrg’ nUM jLrUr ilKy jF pVHy)

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(20/10/08)
bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ hFg kFg

sRI hjUr sihb ivKy gurU gRMQ sihb jI dI AulMGxF?

sRI hjUr sihb mhFrfstr ivwc mMinaf pRmMinaF qKq hY. ikANuik gurU goibMd isMG jI df afKrI pVfa iewQy sI. aqy gur gwdI gurU gRMQ sihb nUM sONp ky ikhf hux ieh hI gurU hY, igafrvF gurU koeI nhI hovygf isrP gurU gRMQ sihb hI sfiraF iswKF df gurU hovygf qF ik koeI dyhDfrI gurU bxky guriswKF nUM lutdf nF rhy ijvyN ik bfbf bkfly ivwc hoieaf sI. so gurgwdI sOp ky 7 akqUbr 1708 nUM joqI joq smf gey. bfbf bMdf isMG bhfdr jI nUM vI iewQo isMG bxF ky pMjfb Byijaf sI. srDflU ÈrDf nfl iewQy afAudy hn qy mn mMgIaF murfdf lY ky cly jfdy hn. iewQy jy koeI rfq nUM swcKMz vwl pYr krky sON jfvy qF inihMg isMG Ausy vyly AuTf ky swcKMz vwl isr krky pYx nUM kihMdy hn. kihMdy kI ieh knUMn sKqI nfl lfgU krdy hn, jy koeI mwky mdIny vflI sfKI suxfAudf hY qF Auh nhI suxdy. so afzr mMnxF pYdf hY. vYsY isr swcKMz vwl krky pYxF gurU mhFrfj dI iewËq krnF hY qy krnI chIdI hY sfry hI bgYr khy qo swcKMz vwl isr krky hI pYdy hn. koeI Qwikaf tuwitaf jF anBol pYr krky pY vI jfdf hY. pr isr krky pYx vfsqy knUMn bxF dyxF bfby nfnk jI dI soc dI ALulMGxF hY. AuQy gurdvfry vI vMzy hoey hn swcKMz dwKxI KflisaF qy gurdvfrf lMgr sihb jo ik bfbf inDfn isMG jI dy nF nfl jfixaf jFdf hY ieh pMjfb dy pMjfbIaF df hY. vYsy iksy gurdvfrf sihb jfx qy koeI rok tok nhI pr pMjfb dy sfry lok bfbf inDFn isMG jI dy gurdvfrf sihb hI jfdy hn qy bfhrly sUibaF dy swcKMz dwKxI KflisaF dwKxI KflisaF dI pCFx hY Auh KwbI pwg bMndy hn dfVI vI KodI huMdI hY.

bfbf inDFn isMG jI df gurdvfrf swcKMz nfloN ijafdf mÈhUr hY iewQy 24 GMty lMgr cldf hY. kQf kIrqn bhuq sulJy hoey rfgI krdy hn syvfdfrF df qy ihz gRMQI df gwl bfq df qrIkf bhuq hI cMgf hY. lgdf hY iewQo jfeIey hI nF. pr jdo lMgr sihb qo bfrh afeIdf qF mn Krfb ho jFdf hY ikAik hIrf Gft qo htvF iCpdy vwl “dsm gRMQ” df pRkfs kIqf hoieaf hY nfl hI inihMg isMGF dI CfAuxI hY. AuQy ÈFm cfr vjy inihMg isMG “suK inDFn” (suwKf) Got rhy hMdy hn. suwKf Got ky bfad ivwc ardfs kIqI jfdI hY qy iPr ieh ‘dyg’ (suwKf) sMgqf ivwc lMgr vfgU vrqfieaf jFdf hY Audo socx vfsqy mjbUr ho jfeIdf hY jdoN nÈy vflI cIË vfsqy vI ardfs ijvy suwKf. pr ieQy koeI pRvfh nhI koeI puwCx vflf nhIN.

iPr ÈFm nUM jdo lMgr sfihb `co’ lMgr Ck ky kIrqn sohly ivwc ÈFml hoeIdf hY. AudoN vI mn Audfs ho jFdf hY AuQy ihMdUaF vFgU Qfl ivwc DUp rwK ky afrqI pVn vyly gurU gMQ sfhmxy KVky slok dy nfl nfl GuMmfieaf jFdf hY ieh afrqI Auvy kIqI jfdI hY ijvy ihMdU mMdrF ivwc kIqI jFdI slok piVaf jfdf hy “ggn my Qfl riv cMd dIpk bny” ies slok ivwc Qfl ivwc dIvy rwK ky afrqI krn nUM mnHF kIqF hY pr iewQy bfxI dy Ault ho irhf hY? keI vfr qF iewk awDf inihMg isMG nwcx vI lwg pYdF hY. CotIaF motIaF glqIaF qF huMdIaf hI rihMdIaF hn ikAuik bMdf glqIaf df puqlf hY ies gur gwdI dy idn qy ieho ijhIaF vwZIaF glqIaf nUM soDxF cfhIdf hY. ieh gwl mYN 1981 dy vkq dI ilK irhf hF hux sfied ievyN nF krdy hox jy hux ievyN afrqI nhI krdy qF dwsxF mY afvdI glqI dI muafPI mMg lvFgf. pr iewk rIq cwl pvy Aus nUM bdlnF bhuq muÈkl huMdf hY. iewk hor gwl drbfr sfihb ivwc koeI Aucf nIvF nhI pr ipCly idnI sR mwkV sihb drbfr sihb aMmRqsr mwQf tykx gey qF tI vI qy iswDf pRsfrx cwl irhf sI bhuq lokF ny dyiKaf ik syvfdr mwkV sihb dy bYTx vfsqy jgHf bxF rhy sn pihlF bYTY ÈDflUaF NnUM AuTf ky, Auh AuT nhI rhy sn AuTx vI ikE gurU Gr ivwc qF koeI Auc nIc nhI. pr mwkV sihb dy bYTx vfsqy sfD sMgq nUM AuTF ky jgHf bxfeI geI. AuTx vfly ÈrDflU pqf nhI ikMnI duro cwl ky afey hoxgy. kI drbfr sihb ivwc vI ahudydfr vfsqy rozvyË dI bws vFgU sIt vwKrI hoxI cfhIdI hY? hux aFpf ikvy afK skdy hF ik gurU gRMQ sihb jI dI hjUrI ivwc sB brfbr hn? ieh gwl isrP mUMh nfl afKdy hF pr aml nhI huMdf. so 300 sflf gurgwdI idn qy ieho ijhIaF vwzIaF vwzIaF glqIaF dUr krvfAux dI koiÈs krIey. ik gurU gRMQ sihb jI dI hjUrI ivwc koeI vwzf Cotf nhIN cfhy Auh gurdvfrf ikqy vI hY.

iKmF df jfck.

bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ hFg kFg PUn 852-94445134

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(19/10/08)
gurÈrn isMG ksyl

siqkfr Xog sMpfdk jI aqy pfTko,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf. vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

sbdu gurU, suriq Duin cylf]

awj jdik sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df 300 sflf gurqf gwdI idvs mnfieaf jf irhf hY qF kI sfnUM ieh vI jfxkfrI nhIN hoxI cfhIdI ik, sRI guru gRMQ sfihb ijhnf nUM asIN "Èbd guru" afKdy hF, Auhnf dy siqkfr vfsqy asIN jo kuwJ ku hyT ilKIaF cIjF krdy hF, kI Auh shI hn jF nhIN? jykr Auh kMm krny shI hn qF ikvyN? ies bfry jfxkfrI dyx leI sfry pfTkF df DMnvfdI hovFgf.

kI sRI guru gRMQ sfihb jI `qy srdIaF ivwc grm rumfly aqy grmIaF ivwc pqly kpVy dy rumfly dyxy aqy pwKy lfAuxy jF eyrkMzIÈn clfAuxf TIk hY?

sDfrn pfT jF aKMz pfT arMB krdy smyN kuMB, joq, mOlI ictf jF lfl kpVy ivwc nfrIal lpyt ky lfgy rwKxf TIk hY?

kI sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb dy brfbr iksy hor gRMQ df pRkfÈ krnf TIk hY?

kI sRI guru gRMQ sfihb jI nUM iewk qoN dUjI QF lY jfx smyN awgy-awgy quwpkf-quwpkf pfxI iCwtkxf TIk hY?

kI ieko smyN ieko QF qy sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb dy iewk qoN vwD pfT arMB krny TIk hY?

kI ieko hfl ivwc sRI guru gRMQ sfihb dy pfT huMdy smyN kQf krnI, kIrqn krnf jF ZfzI lfAuxy TIk hY?

kI Bog pYx smyN ardfsIey vloN kVfh pRÈfid nUM dr pRvfn hovy afKx dI bjfey, "aink pRkfr Bojn bhu kIey bhu ibMjn imstfey] krI pfksfl soc pivqRf huix lfvhu Bogu hir rfey"] afKxf TIk hY?

kI sRI guru gRMQ sfihb jI nUM mnuwKf dyh vFgU pUjxf jF smJxf TIk hY?

kI lMgr iqafr hox smyN AuQy lMgr ivwc hI ardfs nhIN ho skdI? sRI guru gRMQ sfihb nUM lMgr Bog lvfAuxf TIk hY?

siqkfr sihq,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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(18/10/08)
jsbIr isMG (vYnkUvr)

vIr gurcrn isMG jI, vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

vIr jI, qusIN kuC svfl puwCy hn, sMKyp ivwc quhfzy pRÈnF dy AuWqr ies qrHF hn:

Bgq jI ies Èbd ivwc afpxf mwq pRgt nhIN kr rhy blik ajyhf ivÈvfs krn vfilaF nUM, AuhnF dI mnOq nUM hI, AuhnF dy sfhmxy rwK ky, ieh smJf rhy hn ik pRBU nUM hr smyN hI cyqy rwKo.

ies Èbd df muwK Bfv iehI hY ik asIN hr smyN hI vfihgurU nUM ismrIey Bfv Aus dI hËUrI ivwc ivcrIey. hËUrI ivwc ivcrn df arQ pRBU dy guxF nUM hmyÈF hI ihrdy ivwc vsfeI rwKx qoN hY. iksy vI smyN asIN iehnF dYvI guxF nUM iqlFjlI nf dyeIey.

BFvy gurbfxI ivwc aMq kfl qoN Bfv mOq dy smyN qoN hI nhIN hY, pr iewQy iewQy aMq kfl qoN Bfv mrn smyN ihMdU vIrF ivwc jo ivÈvfs hY, Aus vl hI ieÈfrf hY. Bgq jI ies pRclq Dfrnf nfl sihmq nhIN hn pr aYsf mMxn vfilaF nUM swc nfl joVn leI, AuhnF dy ivÈvfs nUM sfhmxy rwK ky ies Dfrnf qoN AuWpr AuWTn leI pRyrdy hn. TIk Ausy qrHF ijs qrHF gurU sfihbfn ny keI vwK vwK DrmF ivwc ivÈvfs rwKx vfilaF nUM AuhnF dy ivÈvfs hI sfhmxy rwK ky AuhnF nUM swc nfl joiVaf hY.

quhfzf ieh afKxf iblkul TIk hY ik gurU sfihb ny hr smyN hI vfihgurU nUM ismrn dI qfgId kIqI hY. gurbfxI df swc iewk hI hY, do, iqMn jF cfr nhIN. ies leI gurbfxI ivwc afpf ivroDI Èbd nhIN hn. gurmiq aqy anmiq nUM smJ ky ies df inKyVf krnf ËrUrI hY.

jykr quhfzy svfl smJx `c AukfeI Kf ky AuWqr nf dy sikaF hovF qF qusIN Pon krn dI Kycl kr lYxI jF dfs nUM sUicq kr dyxf mYN afp quhfnUM Pon kr lvF gf. cUMik kuC hor ruJyvyN hox kfrn ilwKqI AuWqr ivwc smF iËafdf lwg jfvygf. ilwKqI AuWqr nf dy sikaf qF smyN dI mjbUrI smJxf. dfs df Pon nMbr 604 254-7595 hY.

not: mYN ieh AuWqr iewk pRÈn dy AuWqr ivwc iliKaf sI ijs ivwc kyvl iewk pwK nUM muwK rUp ivwc ivcfiraf igaf sI. sfry pwKF nUM nhIN. ilwKx df iewnf smF nf hox kfrn AuWqr nUM sMKyp `c rwKx dI koÈÈ kIqI geI sI.

jsbIr isMG

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(18/10/08)
avqfr isMG (PgvfVf)

BfeI sfihb,

mYN kuwJ idnF qoN afp jI dI ieh sfeIt dyK irhF hF. ijs qrF afp jI ny bihs mubfihsy df islislf ÈurU kIqf hY ies nfÜ Êlq ÌihmIaF jF ÉuÈ ÌihmIaF vDdIaF hI hn, GtdIaF nhIN. afp jI afpxI hudr qoN qF syvf kr rhy ho, pr ieh syvf dI QF kusyvf ho jFdI hY. myrI gwl df guwsf nf krnf. iewk aKfx hY "ijs kf kfm AusI kAu sfjy`` agy kI hY quhfƒ pqf hovygf. hr kMm df afpxf iewk ZMg qrIkf huMdf hY. koeI zOktr tYksI cflk ƒ syD nhIN dy skdf; iesy qrF koeI tYksI cflk iksy vkIl ƒ mÈvrf nhIN dy skdf; qy vkIl iksy zOktr ƒ koeI isiKaf nhIN dy skdf. BfvyN pVHn df hryk ƒ aÉiqafr hY, pr tfeIm pfs krn leI pVHnf hor gwl hY. iksy cIË dI qih qwk phuMcxf hor gwl hY. igafn df islislf ieqnf sOKf nhIN hY. ies kfrj ivwc ivMzo ÈOipMg nhIN huMdI. qusI ieqnf ËrUr dyK ilaf kro iks ivÈy `qy kOx ilK irhf hY. isKF ivwc hI ieh pRclq hY ik iewk zrfeIvr ÌlsÌf Gotdf hY qy iewk ivdvfn klonIaF kwtx ivwc mÈrUÌ hY. afpxy leI pVHnf hor gwl hY. dUsiraF ƒ pVHfAuxf hor gwl hY. mYN iksy pyÈy ikwqy ƒ mfVf nhIN kihMdf. hr pyÈf pivqr hY. pr hr pyÈy dI mirafdf alihdf huMdI hY, Aus ƒ brkrfr rwiKaf jfvy. mYƒ pqf hY ik myrI ies icTI dy ivruD vI bQyrf iliKaf jfvygf. afp jI ƒ bynqI hY ik bihs iksy ihsfb isr krfieaf kro. ies ƒ mwCI bËfr nf bxfE. isK pihlF hI bVy bdnfm hn. Drm jF ÌlsÌf ÊrIb dI ËorU nhIN hY ijs ƒ hr koeI BfbI kih sky. ieh bdo bdI dy dyrF jyTF ƒ Twl pfAux dI loV hY.

ijvyN gwzI clfAux leI mihË gwzI `c bYT jfxf hI kfÌI nhIN hY. isMG sjx leI aMimRq pfn ËrUrI hY. pr isK Drm bfbq ilKx leI isrÌ isK jF isMG hoxf hI kfÌI nhIN hY. mYN Éud ies kMm df mfihr nhIN hF, pr ieh nuks afp dI sfeIt ivwc mYN not kIqy hn. afp dI sfeIt nfÜ juVy iksy ÈÉs ƒ mYN injI qOr pr nhIN jfxdf. pr mYN dyiKaf hY ik bhuqy ilKfrIaF dIaF ilKqF ivcoN iksy AucI pVHfeI dy drÈx nhIN huMdy. kyvl bfxI pVky dUsry Drm gRMQ rwd nhIN kIqy jf skdy. iesy qrF kyvl sfieMs pVH ky Drm ƒ rwd nhIN kIqf jf skdf. hr ivÈy dI gihn pVHfeI AuprMq hI kuwJ ikhf jF mMinaF jf skdf hY. ivdvqf df kMm ienf sOKf nhIN ijqnf Éfs qOr pr asIN isKF ny smJ ilaf hY. hr jxf Kxf tYksI zrfeIvr vI ivdvqf pUrx gwlF ivwc tMg aVf bihMdf hY. gwl mukdI isK hoxf jf sjxf hor gwl hY. isKI jfxnf hor gwl hY. iKmf krnf jI!

afp jI df ÉYr aMdyÈ,

avqfr isMG

# 64, inAU adrÈ ngr,

kot rfxI roz, PgvfVf 144402

(sMpfdkI not:- avqfr isMG jI quhfzI ies icwTI df sfnUM koeI guwsf nhIN ijs qrHF hor pfTk afpxy ivcfr ilKdy hn Ausy qrHF qusIN vI ilK idwqy. asIN sfiraF nUM KusL nhIN kr skdy. pr iek gwl qusIN sfP nhIN kIqI ik iswKI nUM cMgI qrHF iks ny jfixaF hY? kI zyiraF vfly sfDF ny jfixaF hY? qKLqF dy pujfrIaF ny jfixaF hY. XUnIvristI dy pRoPYsrF ny jfixaF hY? qusIN jF hor iksy ny jfixaF hY? iksy do-cONh dy nfm dws idMdy qF cMgI gwl sI. ijs qrHF qusIN ieh icwTI aqy iek lyK Byijaf hY jo ik asIN kwl nUM pf dyvFgy ies qrHF hor ilKfrI vI Byjdy hn. aqy afps ivc vIcfr ivtFdrf vI krdy hn. ies ivc qF koeI mfVI gwl nhIN. hF, jo mfVI gwl hY Auh hY keIaF vloN sLbdfvlI cMgI df nf vrqxF. ies vfry asIN keI vfrI bynqIaF kr cuwky hF. ies sfeIt nfl sMbMDq bhuqy ilKfrI imsLnrI kfljLF ivc pVHy hoey hn. ijhVy nhIN vI pVHy hoey Auh vI pRo: sfihb isMG jI dy kIqy hoey gurbfxI dy arQF nUM aDfr bxf ky ilKdy hn. kI gurbfxI gurU nfloN vI koeI hor Aupr gwl hY, ijs nUM aDfr bxf ky koeI gRMQ rwd ho sky? asIN iksy nUM vI koeI bihs krn leI nhIN swddy. jy kr iksy dI ilKq sMbMDI iksy pfTk nUM koeI sLMkf hY qF Aus df puwCx df hwk hY aqy lyKk df PrjL hY Aus df sLMkf dUr krnf. jy kr kwl vfly lyK bfry koeI pfTk quhfnUM koeI svfl kry qF qusIN kI kroNgy? cuwp rhoNgy jf Aus df jvfb dyvoNgy?)

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(17/10/08)
bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

srdfr gurÈrn isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

vIr jI, QohVI ikAuN ijnI cfhy jfxkfrI lvo. mYN qF syvk hF, agr quhfzI koeI syvf kr skF qF mYnUM KuÈI hovy gI. pr bynqI hY, ky srdfr mwKx isMG jI ny TIk hI PYslf ilaf hY. krmF, jUnF, aqy afqmF bfry ivcfr afpF akqUbr dy mhIny qoN bfd jrUr krFgy jI.

quhfzf vIr,

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

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(17/10/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

sR[ jsvIr isMG vYnkUvr jI nUM kuwJ svfl.

1. quhfzf lyK pVH ky mYnuM ieh pqf nhIN cwilaf ik kI iksy df koeI ismrn kry qy ismrn krdf krdf mry qF ieh koeI icMqf vflI gwl hY? ijvyN aMiq kfil jo lCmI ismrY, aYsI icMqf mih jy mrY ] srp join vil vil aAuqrY ]1] {pMnf 526}

2. aMiq kfl df gurbfxI muqfbk kI mqlb hY?

3. jy ies slok ivc ‘aMiq’ df mqlb aMqlf smF hI hY qy aMqly vyly ismrn krn df suJfE hY qF ieh gurbfxI dy muzly asUl:

bfrMbfr bfr pRBu jpIaY ] pI aMimRqu iehu mnu qnu DRpIaY ] {pMnf 286}

mfJ mhlf 5 ] pRBu ikrpf qy hir hir iDafvAu ] pRBU dieaf qy mMgl gfvAu ] AUTq bYTq sovq jfgq hir iDafeIaY sgl avrdf jIAu ]1] {pMnf 101}

dI AulMGxf hY. gurbfxI muqfbk qF hr gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq nUM mMnx vfly nUM ieh hukm hY ik Auh pRBU dI Xfd nUM hr vkq afpxy ihrdy ivc vsfvy.

ikRpf krky ienHF kuwJ svflF dI pusLtI krnI jI. bfkI aglI icwTI ivc.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.

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(17/10/08)
mnjIq isMG

Respected S. Makhan Singh Ji
Sat Sri Akal

Will you please reproduce the article written by Mr. Bijla Singh in response to Mr. Kala Afghana's article (smfDfn gocry kuwJ ÈMky) published by your web site long back. I am sending you the link for your ready reference.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39909&view=findpost&p=372856

Best regards,
Manjit Singh

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(17/10/08)
ibjlf isMG

Mr. Gurpreet Singh, questions that I wrote in my post were for you to answer which you failed in terribly. Level of immaturity and idiocy shown in your reply is simply astonishing. I wrote what I believe in but obviously you failed to understand anything which suggests to me that your radar is probably jammed and receives no signal whatsoever.

"He has no idea whether he is talking about Sabad Guru or Granth Guru."

I believe there is no difference between Guru Granth Sahib and Shabad Guru. Bhai Gurmit Singh also says that Shabad Guru was the Guru prior to 1708 which clearly means that there has always been one Guru. How is that different from what I have written? Perhaps you can look at the reference you provided of Giani Gian Singh "Guru Maneyo Granth". The same Guru Granth Sahib says "Shabad Gur Peera.." and "Bani Guru Guru Hai Bani..". You failed to provide names of Sikh scholars who believe that Guruship was passed in 1604 as you claimed in your previous reply. You also failed to provide any credible sources to back up your claims of keeping Adi Granth secret. I stated my beliefs and questions written were for you to answer but seems like you don't have any. Perhaps in your next reply, you will come up with a new subject to write on instead of addressing the current topic. Though this has nothing to do with the article or the reply but you decided to divert the topic anyway.

"What he is saying is that: He don't believe that Kanjar Kavita which he calls Charitro Pakhyan is written by Guru Gobind Singh. But he believes and spends his time on Internet forums and websites convincing Naam Abhyasis that"

My beliefs are my choices but nowhere in my post have I written that I reject or accept Chrittro Pakhyan. I think your radar malfunctioned again. Perhaps you can read Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha's work on "Kalka" if you find yourself some time from reading porno.

"First of all let me tell you, I don't need a certificate from anybody whether I am Sikh or not. So don't pull this crap with me. Keep it on the internet forums where you post numerous times in a single day and there you can discuss among yourselves about my sikhi and ease your tension and blood pressure."

I did not assert that you weren't a Sikh. Misreading and misinterpreting seems like your natural habit. Your language in your reply shows who suffers from high blood pressure. I mostly post on SikhSangat forum according to which my posts are 0.58/day. So can you show me any one forum on which I posted "numerous" times a day? Otherwise don't cook up lies and become a hypocrite.

"This Internet Jathedar is seriously getting into the business of ex-communicating people. Who gave the authority to ex-communicate anyone?. He says that I have insulted him. Can he quote a single instance where I disfigured his name or called him a tout or sell-out. I just exposed his hypocrisy."

Once again, show me where have I claimed myself a "jathedar"? Kala Afghana was excommunicated by Akal Takhat not me. So if you have any issues then go there and talk to them. Writing a short name does not constitute to an insult. You insulted me by saying that "I suffer from mental illness and I need to find a serious job". What basis did you have to make such preposterous claims?

"This man has no idea of Sabad Guru, Granth Guru, babbles unnecessarily about Bhai Gurdas. Food for thought for Bijla Singh's radar : Did Bhai Gurdas mentions anything about writing any Bir? Did Bhai Gurdas mentions anything about any Parkash of any Granth in 1604? Did Bhai Gurdas mention any Akal Takht?"

So now we have two different Gurus: Granth and Shabad? Stop making a fool out of yourself. Bhai Gurdas Ji also did not mention Bibi Nanki, Bhai Bhagtoo, Bhai Laalo, Rai Bular numerous other gursikhs and Sakhis. If one reaches the conclusion that these people never existed or such events never occurred then they have some serious mental issues. Bhai Gurdas Ji did not write all of the Sikh history and his Vaars are not the end of the Sikh history. What would you say about Puranic stories that are mentioned in Vaars? Did those really happen? First you say Guru Sahib kept writing of a Granth secret then you question it by saying it wasn't mentioned by Bhai Gurdas Ji. I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. You provide no reference to your claims. By writing such contradictory statements you are the one becoming a hypocrite.

"PrIdf jy qU akil lqIPu kfly ilKu n lyK ] afpnVy igrIvfn mih isru nIvF kir dyKu ]6]"

So you found some time from reading porn to quote Gurbani. Well, thanks for quoting this pankti and I definitely look at myself and try to improve my life every day. But this discussion was not about Dasam Granth which you brought in for no reason but about Mughals confiscating Kartarpuri Bir which has no basis and no reference has been provided by you or Afghana. Kala Afghana asked why Kartarpuri Bir wasn't confiscated to which I replied that this would've served no purpose as other literature and Gurdwaras were not confiscated either. I don't think you still understand the purpose of this discussion. Keeping away from Kama Sutra might help.

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(16/10/08)
gurÈrn isMG ksyl

sR[ bldyv isMG iProjpur aqy siqkfr Xog pfTko,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

sR[ bldyv isMG jI, afp ipCly jnm ivwc kIqy krmf bfry kfPI jfxkfrI rwKdy ho. ijvyN afpny 15-10-08 vflI icwTI ivwc vI iliKaf hY, "hr iensfn dI soc swmJ, mwq buwDI, ipCly jnm dy sMskfrF dy anUMsfr hI huMdI hY. vfrI Ksmu kZfey ikrqu kmfvxf, Bfv pRmfqmF hr iensfn nUM cMgf jF mMdf, Aus dy ipCly krmF dy anusfr hI, afp bnfky ies dunIaF ivwc Byjdf hY. nfnk nfmu iDafieaf] pUrib iliKaf pfieaf] mYN afp koloN ies sbMD ivwc hI QoVI ijhI jfxkfrI lYxI cfhuMdf hF jykr afp dwsxf cfho qF.

ies jnm dy pUrbly smyN jfnIik ies jnm df jo smF bIq igaf hY Aus bfry qF spwÈt hY ik jo asI cMgf jF mfVf krm kIqf hY Auh sfzI ijMdgI dI Pfiel ivwc hmyÈF rhygf. ijvyN jy iksy ny cMgI ividaf pRfpq kIqI hY Auh cMgI nokrI qy lwgygf, jo guwsy ivwc af ky lVygf jF mfVf krm krygf Auh jrUr jyhl Xfqrf krygf. jo-jo koeI bIjygf AuhI kwtygf. BFvy koeI mfVf krm krky AusdI mfPI vI mMg lvy pr iPr vI Auh krm imt nhIN skdf. koeI sfnUM kdI vI afK skdf hY iesny iewk vfrI ieh krm kIqf sI aqy sfnUM Kud nUM vI Auh Xfd afvygf jdo afpxy aMdr JfqI mfrFgy.

pr ipCly jnmf dy sbMD ivwc mYN afp kolo ieh jfxnf cfhuMdf hF ik jdoN koeI jIv jnm lYNdf hY, Auh afpxy pUrbly jnmf dy krm nfl lYky afAuNdf hY jF kuwJ GMty, idn, mhIny jF kuwJ sfl ipwCoN AusdI afqmf ivwc dfKl huMdy hn?

jykr ‘iswK mfrg’ df koeI hor pfTk vI ieh jfxkfrI dyxI cfhy qF DMnvfdI hovFgf.

siqkfr sihq

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

(not:- asIN pfTkF nUM iPr dubfrf bynqI krdy hF ik ieh krmF dI, jUnF dI aqy afqmf dI gwl bfry ivcfr crcf dubfrf nf sLurU krn Gwto-Gwt akqUbr dy mhIny ivc 300 sflf gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy gurgwdI idvs mnfey jfx qwk ies nUM nf krn. sfnUM kwl 15 akqUbr nUM do icwTIaF ies bfry imlIaF sn jo asIN nhIN pfeIaF. iek bldyv isMG dI sI aqy dUsrI jsbIr isMG kYlgrI dI. jy kr bldyv isMG jI ies icwTI df jvfb dyxf cfhux qF Auh iek sPy qoN vwD nf hovy. ivsQfr ivc kuwJ hPqy Tihr ky ilKx-sMpfdk)

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(16/10/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor,

This is my last response to self proclaimed Internet Sikh Scholar: Bijla Singh. This person is still not getting anything in his radar which he has tuned only to ultra high frequencies.

He himself asks question and then himself answers it. He has no idea whether he is talking about Sabad Guru or Granth Guru. (I request him to go through the questions and answers by Gurmit Singh ji from Australia to understand the difference, posted right above his reply). I am quoting some of his fantabulous quotes from the reply that he has addressed to me to let the readers decide themselves:

"There is no controversy on when Shabad Guru was given guruship in the Panth."

"Sikhs obviously know that there is only one Guru, always has been and always will be as is clear from Gurbani."

"It was a big event and could not be kept secret. And what was the purpose of keeping it a secret? Guru Sahib openly delivered divine message rejecting core beliefs of Hinduism and Islam." (Put a question and then answers himself)

Also to let the readers decide what his beliefs and thinking is, I quote from his reply :

"First of all, the link you provided addresses a line in Bachittar Natak which is not the same as Charittro Pakhyan."

What he is saying is that: He don’t believe that Kanjar Kavita which he calls Charitro Pakhyan is written by Guru Gobind Singh. But he believes and spends his time on Internet forums and websites convincing Naam Abhyasis that :

1) Guru Gobind Singh did tapasaya on Hemkunt in his previous birth.

2) Guru Tegh Bahadur did Tapasaya at Tribeni and gave alms and donations to Brahmans so that he can get a son, while at the same time his son Guru Gobind Singh was doing Tapasaya at Hemkunt.

3) Guru Nanak is Bedi because his ancestors read Vedas and is from the lineage of Luv (son of mythological character Ram who never existed)

4) Guru RamDas is from the lineage of Kush.

5) Guru Gobind Singh had one to one conversation with God who sent him down from Hemkunt appointing him as his son (Does that sound familiar? Are we talking about another character called Jesus).

After reading his reply and catching frequencies emitted by his radar, I seriously posed a question to myself : "How can anyone take this man seriously?"

But the answer to the above was provided wayback in 1977 in Time Magazine, by Alexander Rogawski while commenting about another self deluded person who was talking and telling people about their previous birth : "Suckers are born every minute and customers can be found for everything".

Then he transforms himself from the Internet scholar mode to Internet Jathedar mode. He writes :

"Lastly, you do not know anything about me but decided to insult me just because I have different opinions than you. Further, you call yourself Guru Ka Sikh and yet enjoy "erotic stories" at the same time. Then who is suffering from mental illness?"

First of all let me tell you, I don’t need a certificate from anybody whether I am Sikh or not. So don’t pull this crap with me. Keep it on the internet forums where you post numerous times in a single day and there you can discuss among yourselves about my sikhi and ease your tension and blood pressure.

I have in my library Illustrated Kokshastar and Kamasutra by Alex Comfort which I specially bought after reading Kanjar Kavita to confirm 84 asans (84 poses for sexual intercourse) that I read. And let me tell you, Kokshastar and Kamasutra are noway anything near to your Charitropakhyan, This Pakhyan is ultimate xxx hardore pornographic literature. My favourite is the one where two girls indulge in homosexual encounter using vibrator. By the way, which one is your favorite?

Now let me quote him from his original post and let readers decide, what kind of hypocrite he is and, who is insulting others. This is what he wrote about Kalaafghana. Note that he don’t even write his full name and writes only Afghana out of hatred and calls him a sell-out :

"Had Afghana studied little bit of Sikh history he would’ve known these facts but a sell-out has no purpose other than to attack Sikhi and raise doubts in the minds of naïve Sikhs. Such a self-styled government scholar deserved to be excommunicated and should remain outside the circles of the Panth."

This Internet Jathedar is seriously getting into the business of ex-communicating people. Who gave the authority to ex-communicate anyone?. He says that I have insulted him. Can he quote a single instance where I disfigured his name or called him a tout or sell-out. I just exposed his hypocrisy.

Now coming back to his first question, he writes :

"Since when did you become the spokesperson of Afghana?"

He should have known better as it is written in his Bachittar Natak, but I will clarify, I became spokesperson of Kalaafghana in my previous birth when I was doing Tapasaya on Hemkunt and Kaal Purakh called me and had face to face conversation with me and told me to reply to Internet Jathedars and self declared custodians of Sikhism. It is written as follows in Bachittar Natak :

"Ab main apni katha bakhano, tap sadhat jeh bidh mohe aano

Hemkunt parbat hai jaha, sapat sring sobhit hai taha

Sapatsring the Naam kahawa, Pandu Raaj jeh Jog kamawa

Tah main adhik Tapasaya sadhi, MahaKaal Kalka Araaddhi"

About Kartarpuri Bir, no sane person believes in such cooked stories of Kartarpuri Bir. Search the archives of Sikhmarg, you will find the discussion on that here.

This man has no idea of Sabad Guru, Granth Guru, babbles unnecessarily about Bhai Gurdas. Food for thought for Bijla Singh’s radar : Did Bhai Gurdas mentions anything about writing any Bir? Did Bhai Gurdas mentions anything about any Parkash of any Granth in 1604? Did Bhai Gurdas mention any Akal Takht?

Stop ridiculing others and look inside yourself:

PrIdf jy qU akil lqIPu kfly ilKu n lyK ] afpnVy igrIvfn mih isru .nIvF kir dyKu ]6] {pMnf 1378}

From my side, this dialogue is closed but if other readers of Sikh Marg wants to address his concern about Bachittar Natak and Kartarpuri Bir, they can and should definitely do so.

At the end I would like to quote few lines from one of my favourite poems "The Muddlehead" by Ogden Nash, which describes the condition of a person who has no idea what he is doing, saying or talking about :

I knew a man from petushkee

As muddleheaded as could be.

He always got mixed up with clothes;

He wore his mittens on his toes,

Forgot his collar in his haste,

And tied his tie around his waist.

What a muddlehead was he

That man who lived in Petushkee!

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(15/10/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Sikh Marg Moderator,

 Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

S. Jarnail Singh has raised very good questions and S. Gurpreet Singh has explained thoughtfully. I agree with his comments. However, I wish to repeat with a view to learn further -

Q. 1 - Who was our (Sikhs) Guru before 1708 ?

Ans. - The Divine Word - Shabd was Sikhs' Guru, then conveyed by the Gurus Sahibaan in person till 7 October 1708 and thereafter means of communication has been through the Guru Granth Sahib. It is like the relationship between body and soul, one without other may not reflect the true essence of - "Ekaa Baani Ekk guru Eko Shabd Vichaar" (GGS page 646)

Q. 2 - Was it Guru Nanak? Was it Guru Gobind Singh? or was it Shabad?

Ans. - It was /is Shabd Guru because Gurus Sahibaan were only sharing the Divine Wisdom acquired from the Almighty God.

Q. 3 - Who has got the authority to install Shabd as Guru? Did Guru Nanak or Guru Gobind Singh have this authority? or is Shabad an everlasting Guru before one in this Cosmos?

Ans - At the beginning of Japp Jee Sahib, Guru Nanak Sahib says: "Aad Sach Jugaad Sach. Hai Bhee Sach Nanak Hosie Bhee Sach". It would thus indicate that God's Hukam / Truth / Divine was available all the times but most of the past Prophets and Founders of different religions could not comprehend or realize the laws of Nature and God's Great Glories / Virtues. Thus humanity remained in darkness whereas by revealing the Truth by Guru Nanak Sahib and his successors, people could attain emancipation. Since from Guru Nanak Sahib to Guru Gobind Singh Sahib were / are considered to be "Ekk Joate, one and the same Divine Light", Guru Gobind Singh Sahib had perfect Authority to ordain Guru Granth as Sikhs' Shabd Guru for all times to come.

At the end, I am of the view that there is no need to celebrate 400 years first and 300 years afterwards under the pretext of First Parkash and Gurtagaddi. It is just like immitating the Hindu Thought - Treta Jug first and Duapar after Treta?

Thanks for such healthy discussion.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(15/10/08)
ibjlf isMG

This is my reply to Gurpreet Singh regarding Kala Afghana's article. I hope you publish it on your site.

Mr. Gurpreet Singh, clearly it is you who has missed the "gist" of the article. My response:

1) Since when did you become the spokesperson of Afghana? He has openly questioned the authenticity of Kartarpuri Bir without any shred of evidence. He clearly says that Bir written by Bhai Gurdas Ji could not have been rewritten once confiscated by the Mughals.

2, 3) There is no controversy on when Shabad Guru was given guruship in the Panth. No Sikh scholar in all seriousness believes that guruship was bestowed in 1604. The fact is apparent from the celebration of 300^th Guruta-Gaddi Diwas at Hazoor Sahib this year (2008). Afghana doesn't mention anything remotely related to passing gurugaddi to Guru Granth Sahib in his article.

4) This statement is nowhere implied in the article. Sikhs obviously know that there is only one Guru, always has been and always will be as is clear from Gurbani. If Afghana wanted to emphasize that there was only one Guru then what exactly is his "Masla" (problem) which seems irresolvable to him? In his article he is not highlighting any facts about who was the real Guru or how many there were but questioning why Kartarpuri Bir was not confiscated by the government officials and if it was then how the Sikhs managed to get the "irreplaceable" Bir back.

5) This must be a joke. Writing of Bir Sahib was not a miniscule task. It took lot of effort, time and hard work. It is ridiculous to believe that Guru Sahib and Bhai Gurdas Ji spent some hours of the day in a secret room to not let anyone else know about what was going on. Adi Granth was done parkash of openly in Darbar Sahib. It was a big event and could not be kept secret. And what was the purpose of keeping it a secret? Guru Sahib openly delivered divine message rejecting core beliefs of Hinduism and Islam. He spoke against Babur, caste system, idol worship, hajj, cultural blind practices etc but never kept his message secret. Then how could he keep the same message secret in written form? According to your statement 4, there was only one Guru (which I agree with) then why would the enemies go after Adi Granth (which holds no value to them) and not the Guru (Guru Arjan Sahib)? Jahangir expressed his wishes to destroy Sikhi by killing Guru Sahib who was not the Adi Granth. Food for thought for you: confiscating a religious book does not destroy the religion. Guru Sahib could've rewritten it later. Mughals knew nothing about Adi Granth and since it was not the Guru then, there was no point in destroying it. Darbar Sahib was equally important then why wasn't it confiscated and destroyed? Keep in mind that Damdami Bir was lost during The Great Holocaust and numerous Birs were destroyed during the reign of Mir Mannu but Sikhs still survived and we still have the same Bani. List of questions is endless but keeping the truth secret is not an act of Guru Sahib but of a coward. Do you have any evidence to support your notions of keeping Adi Granth a secret? And when was this secret made public? Any credible evidence would be great.

Regarding your accusations – First of all, the link you provided addresses a line in Bachittar Natak which is not the same as Charittro Pakhyan. Second, I have a great job. I am a Radar Engineer for U.S. Air Force. Third, I depend on Guru Sahib for my survival. Lastly, you do not know anything about me but decided to insult me just because I have different opinions than you. Further, you call yourself Guru Ka Sikh and yet enjoy "erotic stories" at the same time. Then who is suffering from mental illness? You may want to pay some attention to many articles written on this site by many authors who show the attitude of "our way or highway" by ridiculing other Sikhs just because they differ in opinion. If you want to have a discussion then fine but if insulting others is the only thing you know then Guru Sahib tells me to turn around so Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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(15/10/08)
bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

BYx pRIq kOr Kflsf jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf,

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

bldyv isMG qUM TIk smiJaf mYN qwq Kflsf hF, aqy mYN JUT kuPr brdfÈq nhIN krdI. pr qyry ivwc iewk Gft hY ik qyry ivwc glq nUM glq kihx dI KflisaF vflI ihMmq nhIN hY. qUM vI myry vFgUM Kflsf bx qy swc nUM swc kihx dI ihMmq rwK.

BYx jIE, Èfied qusIN TIk hI iliKaf hY, pr ijs swc nUM swc kihx nfl, jF glq nUM glq kihx nfl JgVf vwDdf hovy, mYN Aus nUM kihx qoN kuwJ pRhyË hI krdf hF. ikAuN ky mYN isrP gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy hukm, isiKaf, jF mwq anUsfr hI cwldf hF. ies vfsqy jo gurbfxIN kihMdI hY mYN isrP Auh hI kihMdf hF. afp vI gurbfxIN dy hukm qy aml krdf hF aqy swB nUM aml krn vfsqy bynqI krdf hF.

gurU nfnk dyv jI dI bfxIN hY,

vfrI Ksmu kZfey ikrqu kmfvxf] mMdf iksY n afiK JgVf pfvxf]

hr iensfn dI soc swmJ, mwq buwDI, ipCly jnm dy sMskfrF dy anUMsfr hI huMdI hY. vfrI Ksmu kZfey ikrqu kmfvxf, Bfv pRmfqmF hr iensfn nUM cMgf jF mMdf, Aus dy ipCly krmF dy anUMsfr hI, afp bnfky ies dunIaF ivwc Byjdf hY. nfnk nfmu iDafieaf] pUrib iliKaf pfieaf] agr mnuwK iknF vI BYVf ikAuN nF hovy, Auh afpxyN afp nUM kdy vI BYVf nhIN aKvfAuNdf. bury nUM burf afKF gy (hflF ky ieh swc huMdf hY) qF Auh smJx dI bjfie sgoN awgoN hor vI ijafdf buirafeI qy AuWqr afvy gf, JgVf krygf gl pvygf. pr agr iksy Bly purÈ nUM asIN ikqy burF vI kih dyvF gy (hflF ky ieh JUT jF glq huMdf hY) qF Auh Blf purÈ jldI JgVf nhIN krygf.

BYx jI, swc qF vYsy vI bhuq kOVf huMdf hY. ies vfsqy mYN qF swc vI zr zr ky hI ilKdf hF. aqy sc ilKx df myrf mksd isrP swB dI BlfeI hY, mYN iksy df pwK lY ky gwl nhI krdf. swB dI BlfeI vfsqy agr mYnUM apmfinq vI hoxF pvy qF, mYnUM iksy nfl koeI iglf nhIN hovygf. agr koeI iewk vI vIr myrI bynqI qy aml krky afpxF Blf kr lYNdf hY, qF myry vfsqy hor KuÈI dI gwl kI ho swkdI hY.

sfkq jF BYVy purÈ qoN qF gurU arjn dyv jI vI dUr hI rihxF cfhuNdy hn.

mfgAu dfnu ikRpfl ikRpf iniD myrf muKu sfkq sMig n jutsI ry] jn nfnk dfs dfs ko krIahu myrf mUMzu sfD pgf hyiT rulsI ry] (õóõ)

gurU arjn dyv jI kihMdy hn, hy pRBU mYN qyry pfsoN iewk dfn mMgdf hF, ky myrf iksy sfkq purK nfl vfh nF pvy. pr mYnUM qUM afpxyN dfsF df dfs bxf lY, myrf isr BfvyN qyry dfs sfDuaF dy pYrF hyT ruldf iPry, pr sfkqF purÈF nfl myrf mwQf nF lwgy.

mfn aiBmfn mMDy so syvku nfhI] qq smdrsI sMqhu koeI koit mMDfhI] ò]

sMgq df dfs

bldyv isMG

(iProËpur)

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(14/10/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor,

Jarnail Singh ji from Australia has posed some questions. I will try to explain as per my limited understanding. Before that I want to make clear that Jarnail Singh ji is a very learned man, well versed in Gurbani whose articles can be read on Internet. I am too inexperienced and too young to be at the level of his understanding. I am just trying to explain what I have been able to understand so far.

To understand who was and is our Guru, we have to first understand that there is a difference between Guru and Guruship ("Guryayi"). Our Guru even today is Sabad and when Guru Nanak was there even then Guru Nanak told us to get connected with Sabad. Guru Nanak was a medium and told us not to get connected with any human being. Guru of Guru Angad to Guru Gobind Singh is also Guru Nanak. Guru Nanak passed the Guruship/Guryayi to the successive Gurus.

I would like to use an example, to explain it further : We can say that Guru Nanak founded the University of Sikhism, designed and prescribed its syllabus and curriculum so that we can graduate from it. Successive Gurus were the Vice-Chancellors or Principals of this University who occupied the Chair (Guruship/Guryayi) but taught students exactly the same syllabus designed and prescribed by Guru Nanak which they themselves learnt from Guru Nanak.

There are many verses in Guru Granth Sahib which successive occupants of the Chair uttered to explain to the people the greatness of Guru Nanak. I am just quoting one by Guru Arjan :

bilE crfgu aMD´fr mih, sB kil AuDrI, iek nfm Drm ] pRgtu sglu hir Bvn mih, jnu nfnku guru pfrbRhm ]9] (pMnf 1387)

O Lord ! your servant , your own image Guru Nanak has been revealed in this world. Guru Nanak is a lamp lit in the darkness; through the Name and teachings taught by Guru Nanak this entire world is getting saved.

After 1708, Guruship/Guryayi has been passed to Guru Granth Sahib, which now occupies the chair of Vice-Chancellor of the University founded by Guru Nanak. But the Guru is still Guru Nanak. Guru Granth Sahib is occupying the chair of Principal and contains the syllabus of Guru Nanak so that we can try to graduate from this University to get our Masters/Doctorate etc by meeting the Guru of Guru Nanak, which Guru Nanak tells us:

qqu inrMjnu joiq sbfeI sohM Bydu n koeI jIAu ] aprMpr pfrbRhmu prmysru nfnk guru imilaf soeI jIAu ]5]11] {pMnf 598-599}

The essence, the immaculate Lord, the Light of all - I am He and He is me - there is no difference between us. The Infinite Transcendent Lord, the Supreme Lord God - Nanak has met with Him, He is the Guru of Nanak.

The authority to install Guru Granth Sahib as the Guru was with or came to Guru Gobind Singh only. At any one time the chair of Vice-Chancellor was occupied by only one occupant. Neither the Sikhs nor any Guru bowed to any Granth before 1708. Nor did any Guru slept on floor and kept his own writings on bed or moved around carrying it on his head.

Gurpreet Singh Sumra

Brampton,Canada

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(13/10/08)
jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf

Dear all

S Makhan Singh has suggested that we should discuss about the tercentenary celebration of installation of GGS as Guru. I have a few questions in my mind for which I seek answers from the learned persons who visit this site.

Who was our (Sikh’s) Guru before 1708?

Was it Guru Nanak? Was it Guru Gobind Singh? Or was it Shabad?

Who has got the authority to install Shabad as Guru? Did Guru Nanak or Guru Gobind Singh have this authority? Or is Shabad an everlasting Guru from day one in this cosmos?

With regards to all

Jarnail Singh

Sydney Australia

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(13/10/08)
dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc

Commitment !
(Now Show Your Loyalty)
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(not:- asIN ipCly hPqy 5 akqUbr nUM iliKaf sI ik asIN 12 akqUbr nUM afqmf aqy jUnF dI vIcfr crcf bMd kr rhy hF. so awj qoN ieh bMd hY. awj qwk jo pwqr afey sI Auh asIN pf idwqy hn. iPr vI jy kr koeI ieh smJdf hY ik Auh jo kuwJ ilKxf cfhuMdf sI nhIN ilK sikaf qF Auh afpxy iKafl iek lyK ilK ky pRgt kr skdf hY jF iPr kuwJ smF Tihr ky ies nUM dubfrf vI sLurU kIqf jf skdf hY. ies akqUbr dy mhIny ivc gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df gurgwdI idvs mnfieaf jf irhf hY, pfTk ies bfry ivcfr crcf krn qF cMgI gwl hY. pfTk/lyKk iek ieh gwl vI not krn ik asIN iksy df vI eI-myl iksy ilKq nfl nhIN pAuNdy. ies df kfrn jLMk eI-myl aqy skYm hY. hF, jy kr koeI bhuqI qfgId kry qF pf idMdy hF pr Aus nUM bfad ivc kwZxf sfzy leI musLkl kMm hY. pfTkF/lyKkF nUM iek hor jLrUrI bynqI vI hY ik Auh afpxf PUn nMbr afpxI ilKq nfl jrUr Byjx, {bhuq sfry pihlF hI Byjdy hn} qF ik loV pYx qy qsdIk kIqI jf sky aqy bfad ivc koeI ieh nf ilKdf iPry ik ‘iswK mfrg’ qy jfhlI ilKqF CpdIaF hn/sn. qusIN afpxF PUn nMbr afpxI ilKq nfl nf Cfpx bfry aqy iksy vI hor nUM nf dyx bfry sfnUM ilK skdy ho. asIN ies bfry quhfnUM 100% XkIn idvfAuNdy hF ik asIN ies qy pUrf aml krFgy-sMpfdk)

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(‘iswK mfrg’ dy pfTkF dI jfxkfrI ihq:- afqmf aqy jUnF bfry jo ivcfr crcf ipCly kfPI icr qoN cwl rhI sI Auh iksy vI nqIjy qy nhIN phuMc rhI aqy gwl-bfq ivc kfPI kuVwxqf af rhI hY. bhuqIaF gwlF df muV-muV duhrfE ho irhf hY. ies leI asIN ies nUM agly hPqy akqUbr 12 qoN bMd kr rhy hF-sMpfdk)

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(12/10/08)
pRIq kOr Kflsf

pRIq kOr Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

gurcrn isMG nUM

qUM kdoN suDryNgf?

qUM bldyv isMG hFgkFg dy idl nUM ivMinaf hY. qUM AunHF bfry iliKaf sR[ bldyv isMG jI ikqnf cMgf hovy jy kr qusIN iswK Drm bfry nf hI ilKo qF ikAuNik qusIN piVHaf kwK nhIN qy icTIaF ilK ky vfDU df lokF df smF Krfb krn df hI kMm kroNgy.

bldyv isMG hFgkFg jI qusI idl Kol ky ilKo. afpxy vrgy horF nUM vI kho ik Auh vI ilKx. quhfzf iliKaf sfnUM byhwd psMd afieaf. jy qrlocn (pRoPYsr) nfl kMtYkt kr sko qF Aus nUM vI kho ik Auh vI imTf imTf ilKy nhIN qF gurcrn dIaF koVIaF icTIaF pVH ky sfry ibmfr ho jfxgy.

gurcrn qUM cMgf bMdf hYN pihlIaF icTIaF hI bfr bfr kt ky lfeI jf irhf hYN qy lokF nUM mUrK bxf irhf hYN. isDf kih ky jsbIr isMG dy jvfb qyry kol nhIN.

jsbIr dy svflF dy jvfb leI qYnUM Aus dI jfq pfq jfxn dI loV nhIN. qUM iliKaf jy kr qusI kYligrI vfly ivrdI jI hI ho qF quhfzy nfl isrKpfeI df kI mqlb.

jdoN qYnUM jvfb nhIN afAuNdy qF jF qF purfxIaF ilKqF dI kitMg lgf idMdf hYN jF iPr ieh qyrY leI isrKpfeI ho jFdI hY.

vfh Auh isMGF doV qUM irhf hYN, ilKdf hYN mihMdr isMG nUM qyry anusfr sR[ mihMdr isMG rficstr dy svflF df jvfb dyx qoN pihlf AunHF nUM vI kuwJ svfl pfey gey sn qy jvfb ilKx qoN Auh vI dOV igaf ies krky Ausdy svflF df jvfb dyx dI loV nhIN smJI geI.

gurqyj leI

qUM iliKaf pihlF ieh dwso ik jd nYiqkqf df sicafr jIvn ies JUTIafN jUnF qy krm-kFzF dy mwkV-jfl ivwcoN kwZ idMdf hY

gurqyj mYN qYnUM pihlF vI iliKaf sI ky qyry mUMhoN nYiqkqf aqy sicafr ijhy aKr cMgy nhIN lgdy ikAuNik qUM qrlocn (iPijks) nUM pfgl disaf sI. agoN qoN ieh aKr nf vrqIN ieh myrI qYnUM nyk slfh hY.

bldyv isMG (iProjpur)

bldyv isMG qUM TIk smiJaf mYN qwq Kflsf hF, aqy mYN JUT kuPr brdfÈq nhIN krdI. qUM TIk ilKdf hYN, vDIaf ilKdf hYN, swc ilKdf hYN, qYnUM igafn hY pr qyry ivwc iewk Gft hY ik qyry ivwc glq nUM glq kihx dI KflisaF vflI ihMmq nhIN hY. qUM vI myry vFgUM Kflsf bx qy swc nUM swc kihx dI ihMmq rwK.

pRIq kOr Kflsf.

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(12/10/08)
srvjIq isMG

s: mwKx isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

afp jI afpxy kImqI smyN ivcoN kuwJ smf ies vYbsfeIt nUM clfAux leI dy rhy ho ies leI afp jI df buhq-buhq DMnvfd. mYnUM ies gwl df vI aPsos hY ky keI vfrI afp jI nUM sfzy krky KwtIaF-imwTIaF vI suxnIaf pYNdIaF hn pr Pyr vI afp jI inmrqf nfl afpxI Dun ivwc msq rihMdy ho. ipCly smy ivwc ieh mihsUs kIqf igaf hY ky ijvy koeI pfTk jfhlI nfm nfl pwqr ilK irhf hY. kI afp jI AunF sfry swjxf nUM jfxdy ho ijnHF dIaf ilKqf afp jI bYb sfeIt qy post krdy ho? jy ajyhf nhI qF awgo qo ieh iKafl rwKx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI.

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s: jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI) jI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

afp jI ny afpxy pwqr (10-10-08) jo afp jI ny BfeI avqfr isMG jI nUM sMboDq krky iliKaf sI dy sbMD ivwc bynqI hY ik BfeI avqfr isMG jI ny svfl afp jI nUM nhI kIqy sn Auh svfl qF s: bldyv isMG jI nUM kIqf sI ik, qusI kihMdy ho ik, "s: jsbIr isMG jI dI iql iql pIVn vflI gwl iblkul TIk hY, swc hY. kIqy hoey krmF df, pfpF df ihsfb dyx vfsqy kohlU ivcoN lMGxf hI pYxF hY, iksy nyN vI bfeIpfs nhIN jfx dyxF. ijhVf kihMdf hY nhIN, Auh gurU nfnk dI gwl kwt irhf hY. "

pr BfeI jsvIr isMG jI qF ieh ilK rhy hn, "pr pihly sR jsbIr isMG kYlgrI sR srbjIq isMG jI nUM sMboDn krky drsf rhy hn ik "vIr jI! qusIN ajrfeIl, Drmrfj, kohlU afid df ijkr kIqf hY. srvjIq isMG jI! Drmrfj aqy ajrfeIl ivwc Ìrk hY vI aqy nhIN vI. jdoN gurU sfihb iksy muslmfn nfl muÉfqb ho ky gwl krdy hn qF ajrfeIl lÌË df iesqymfl krdy hn aqy jdoN iksy bRhmx nfl ivcfr krdy hn qF Drmrfj/ Drmrfie Èbd df iesqymfl krdy hn. muslmfnF anusfr ajrfeIl mOq df Ìirsqf hY jo ik muslmfnF dy imQy hoey ZMg nfl afpxf kMm krdf hY aqy Drmrfj ihMdUaF df imiQaf hoieaf mOq df dyvqf hY jo ik ihMdUaF dy imQy hoey ZMg nfl afpxf kMm krdf hY. gurmq ny donF coN iksy dI vI hoNd nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. iewk gwl hor, Auh ieh ik jy koeI ivakqI ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM mMndf hY Auh Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMn skdf ijhVf ivakqI Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM mMndf hY Auh ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMn skdf. gurU sfihb ny ihMdUaF jF muslmfnF nUM gwl smJfx lwigaF AunHF dI bolI dy lÌË isrÌ sMkyq mfqr leI iesqymfl kIqy hn AunHF nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf…."

afp jI dy bcn, "ijhVf qusIN srfDF, ipwqrF svrg, nrk afid df iËkr kIqf hY, Aus bfry mYN afpxy "afvfgAux aqy gurmq" lyK ivwc afp hI KMzx kr cukf hF ik gurmq iehnF gwlF nUM nhIN mMndI." afp jI vloN ilKIaF ieh pMgqIaF pVky buhq hI KuÈI hoeI hY ik afp jI krm kFzF df purjor KMzn krdy ho. myry siqkfr Xog vIr jI, quhfzy aqy sfzy ivcfrf ivwc koeI Kfs mwq-Byd nhI hY bws inmrqf nfl iewk dUjy dI Bfvnf nUM smJx dI loV hY. ikANik ieQy sfzI ivcfr crcf df aDfr ivakqIgq ivcfr Dfrf nhI hY afpxI ivcfr df aDfr qF gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI hY.

iekf bfxI ieku guru ieko sbdu vIcfir]

afp jI dy bcn, "vIr jI! gurbfxI coN kuwJ qukF pyÈ kr irhf hF aqy awgy vI keI vfrIN pyÈ kr cukf hF ijnHF df awj qwk koeI jvfb nhIN afieaf. AumId krdf hF ik hux qusIN jrUr jvfb dyvo gy."

ijvy ik afp jI ny vI iliKaf hY ik afp jI ieh qukF pihlf vI pyÈ kr cuky ho pr ienHF dI ivafiKaf iksy ny nhI kIqI. vIr jI, jy afp jI nUM Xfd hovy qF s: gurmIq isMG jI (astRylIaf) ny afpxy pwqr (6-10-08) ivwc iliKaf sI, "Instead of cornering the person, who may have different opinion, it would be much appreciated if we try to discuss one or two complete Shabds at one time and then take up other similar Shabds rather than picking up one one line. Gurbaani should not be considered like a Soccer Match ! At the same time, we should avoid animosity towards others because we all are learners and no one is perfect."

ies krky afp jI vlo ByjIaf geIaF pMgqIaF pVHIaF qF sn pr Aus bfry iliKaf nhI sI ikANik afpf sfiraf nUM hI pqf hY ik afpF arQ ikQo kfpI krdy hf.

sfry pfTkF nUM inmrqf sihq bynqI hY ik s: gurmIq isMG jI dy suJfE qy aml krn dI koiÈÈ kIqI jfvy qF awgo qo ajyhI kuVwqx qo bicaf jF sky.

s: jsbIr isMG jI, afp jI ny hyT ilKy ÈbdF `c pMgqIaF cuxIaf hn.

soriT mhlf ù] mn kI mn hI mfih rhI] nf hir Bjy n qIrQ syvy cotI kfil ghI] ñ] rhfAu] dfrf mIq pUq rQ sMpiq Dn pUrn sB mhI] avr sgl imiQaf ey jfnAu Bjnu rfmu ko shI] ñ] iPrq iPrq bhuqy jug hfirE mfns dyh lhI] nfnk khq imln kI brIaf ismrq khf nhI] ò] ò] (pMnf 631)

jYqsrI mhlf 5 Gru 3

ÃÄ siqgur pRsfid ] koeI jfnY kvnu eIhf jig mIqu ] ijsu hoie ikRpflu soeI ibiD bUJY qf kI inrml rIiq ] 1] rhfAu ] mfq ipqf binqf suq bMDp iest mIq aru BfeI ] pUrb jnm ky imly sMjogI aMqih ko n shfeI ] 1] mukiq mfl kink lfl hIrf mn rMjn kI mfieaf ] hf hf krq ibhfnI avDih qf mih sMqoKu n pfieaf ] 2] hsiq rQ asÍ pvn qyj DxI BUmn cqurfNgf ] sMig n cfilE ien mih kCUaY AUiT isDfieE nfNgf ] 3] hir ky sMq ipRa pRIqm pRB ky qf kY hir hir gfeIaY ] nfnk eIhf suKu afgY muK AUjl sMig sMqn kY pfeIaY ] 4] 1] (pMnf-700)

mfrU mhlf õ Gru ó astpdIaf

ÃÄ siqgur pRsfid] lK cAurfsIh BRmqy BRmqy dulB jnmu ab pfieE] ñ] ry mUVy qU hoCY ris lptfieE] aMimRqu sMig bsqu hY qyrY ibiKaf isAu AurJfieE] ñ] rhfAu] rqn jvyhr bnjin afieE kflru lfid clfieE] ò] ijh Gr mih quDu rhnf bsnf so Gru cIiq n afieE] ó] atl aKMz pRfx suKdfeI iewk inmK nhI quJu gfieE] ô] jhf jfxf so Qfnu ivsfirE iewk inmK nhI mnu lfieE] õ] puqR klqR igRh dyiK smgRI ies hI mih AurJfieE] ö] ijqu ko lfieE iqq hI lfgf qYsy krm kmfieE] ÷] jAu BieE ikRpflu qf sfDsMgu pfieaf jn nfnk bRhmu iDafieE] ø] ñ] (pMnf1017)

sfrg mhlf õ] ry mUVÙy qU ikAu ismrq ab nfhI] nrk Gor mih AurD qpu krqf inmK inmK gux gFhI] ñ] rhfAu] aink jnm BRmqO hI afieE mfns jnmu dulBfhI] grB join Coiz jAu inkisE qAu lfgo an TFhI] ñ] grB join Coiz jAu inkisE qAu lfgo an TFhI] ñ] kxu nfhI quh gfhx lfgy Dfie Dfie duK pFhI] ò] imiQaf sMig kUiV lptfieE AuriJ pirE kusmFhI] imiQaf sMig kUiV lptfieE AuriJ pirE kusmFhI] so imilaf jo pRBU imlfieaf ijsu msqik lyKu ilKFhI] khu nfnk iqnÙ jn bilhfrI jo ailp rhy mn mFhI] ô] ò] ñö] (pMnf1207)

vIr jI, jy kr koeI vI swjx ienHF pMgqIaf nUM pUry Èbd nflo inKyV ky ienHF dy ÈbdI arQ krfgy qF arQ Auh hI hox gy jo afp jI cfhUMdy ho. pr dyKxf qF ieh hY ik ienHF pMgqIaF ivwc gurimq df isDFq spwÈt huMdf hY jF ieh isDFq nUM ÈpwÈt krn leI AudfhrxF idwqIaF geI hY. jy kr mY gurbfxI dI ieh pMgqI "qIriQ nfeIaY suKu Plu pfeIaY mYlu n lfgY kfeI ] " ilK ky nfl PrIdkotI tIky ivco ies dy arQ, "aO qIrQoN kf iesnfn krIey qo suK rUp Pl ko pfeIqf hY punf iksI pRkfr kI mYl nhIN lfgqI]" ilK idaf qF qusI myry bfry kI socogy? vIr jI gurimq df isDFq qF Èbd dI rhfAu vflI pMgqI ivwc huMdf hY bfkI qF sfzy vrigaF nUM sfzIaF mnOqf dIaF Audfhrxf dy ky smJfieaf hI igaf hY. ijvy afp jI ny afpxy pwqr ivwc ajrfeIl aqy Drmrfj df KMzn krky gurimq dy isDFq nUM spÈt kIqf hY. ieQy vI smJfAux leI Auh hI qrIkf vriqaf igaf hY ik qusI mMndy ho ik ieh mnuwKF jnm 84 lwK jUnF qoN ipCo imilaf hY, jy hux iml hI igaf hY qF ies nUM ivarQ qF nf gvfE, jy qusI hux ies jnm ivwc vI koeI cMgf kMm nF kIqf qF Pyr quhfzI mnOq muqfbk qusI 84 dy gyV ivwc jf pvogy. pfTkF dI jfxkfrI leI ieh vI dwsxf vI lfhybMd hovygf ik 84 dy iewk gyV dI Aumr ikMnI hY. iewk ZfzI jQy ny styj qy ijMnI Aumr dwsI sI mY Aus nUM sux ky hYrfn rih igaf sI lE qusI vI pVHo. 84 dy iewk gyV dI Aumr huMdI hY 7500000000 sfl. jdo ky awj dI sfeIs dy muqfbk DrqI dI Aumr 4540000000 sfl bxdI hY ies df Bfv ieh hoieaf ik ieh 84 df gyV afpxy arMB qo qkrIbn awD ivwc hI phuMicaf hY pr sfnUM qF mnuKF jIvn iml vI igaf hY. ies df Bfv hoieaf ky asI hfly 84 dy gyV ivco dI nhI lMgy. hF jy hux bMidaF vfly kMm nf kIqy qF Aus ivwc pYx dI sMBfvnf jrUr ho skdI hY.

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s: gurmIq isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

afp jI dy svfl, If someone has latest information, please do share about the current position of the departed souls in respect of -

1) President Gurcharan Singh Tohra, 2) Yogi Harbhajan Singh, 3) Giani Sant Singh Maskeen, 4) Baba Thakur Singh, 5) Baba Virsa Singh, 6) Nihung Ajit Singh Poohla, 7) Any other well-known person !"

sbMDI bynqI hY ik ieh sfry hI jF ijnHF vwl afp ny ieÈfrf kIqf hY Auh sfry hI svrg ivwc jF pujy hn. hF jy kr koeI iksy Bul-cuwk kfrn ies vfrI svrg ivwc nf vI jf sikaf hovy qF pwkI gwl hY ik Aus df jnm iswKF dy hI Gr hoieaf hY. lAu suxo ikvy!

"hux eys qo awgy mhfrfj sfihb jI nUM puiCaf, jI ik ikrpf krky ieh dwso ky iehdf [aMimRq] mhfqm kI hY? mhfrfj kihMdy ijhVf iewk vfrI pMj Gut aMimRq dy Cwk lYdf, ijs dy pMj iCwty awKF ivwc pY gey, pMj iCty qwl ivwc pY gey, akfl purK vfihgurU dI ikRpf dy nfl kihMdy jy qF pMjy kkfrF dI rihq rwK ky BgqI kr ky igafn qwk phuMc igaf qF qf eyQY mukq hY, koeI jnm nhI huMdf. jy ikqy kuÈ iZl mwT ho geI, igafn qwk nf phuMc sikaf, qf Pyr BfeI siqgur mhfrfj kihMdy mY aglf jnm ijhVf hY ieh myry akfl purK df hukm hY beI awglf jnm iswKf dy Gr AuhnUM jnm idwqf jfvygF qFik jnm qo hI iPr rihq ivwc af jfey. iPr BgqI af jfey. ieh guriswKF dy ivwc ieh aYvy nhI pYdf hoey. ikQy hY jI gusqfKI? bwicaf dI gwl smJ afAudI jdo mY keI vfr cwgf svwQ vfqfvrx dyKdf, mY kihnf ieh bwcy bVY BfgF vfly ny, afh gwl hY.

iswK kihx lwgy iPr mhfrfj jy agly jnm ivwc vI nf mukq ho sky qF? mhfrfj kihMdy EdU aglf jnm. do-cfr vfrI ikhf, mhfrfj kihMdy ies qrHF nhI khfxI mukxI, kihMdy dws hjfr sfl qwk mY muV mUV ky iswKF dy Gr jnm qy mnuwKF srIr imlygf ijnHy iewk vfrI aMimRq Cwk ilaf dws hjfr brs qwk. ar eyh ilKq ivKf skdf mY. koiÈÈ eyhI huMdI hY ky jo kuwJ styj qy boilaf jfey Auhdf ilKqI prUP hovy, jy ilKqI prUP nf hovy qF bIqy idnf ivwc iPr, isr nIvf krnf pYNdf. jy ilKqI prUP hY qF beI afh dyKo aYdf jvfb afh, aYdf jvfb afh aYdf afh. iehdf vI ilKqI prUP hY. guru sfihb jI ny ieh bcn kIqf ky kihMdy aYnf lwmf smf AuhnUM mnuKF srIr qy aYnI Cot ho geI Auhdy vfsqy."

(sMq hrI isMG rMDfvy vfly. sMqF dI XUnIan dy jnrl skwqr)

iek hor sbUq, "aMimRq dI pUrI mhwqqf qF koeI kih hI nhIN skdf pr kuwJ kihMdy hF- aMimRq Ckx krky ipCly jnmF dy sfry pfp bÉÈy jFdy hn. siqgur sfihb jI ÉKÈ idMdy hn. siqgurF df hukm hY, iewk vfr ijs dy muK ivwc aMimRq pY igaf iPr BvyN glqI hox krky mukq n ho sky pr ds hjfr vrHy qk asI nrkF ivwc nhIN pYx idaFgy. vfr vfr iswKF dy Gr jnm idafgy. kdy qF rihq rwK mukq hovygf." (gurbfxI pfT drpx, pMnf 80[ krqf: sRImfn pMQ rqn ivwidaf mfrqMz scKMz vfsI sMq ig: gurbcn isMG jI Éflsf iBMzrfvfly)

afdr sihq

srvjIq isMG

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(12/10/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor,

I have been reading this debate about Karma for quite some time. One of the participants has even declared it a scientific theory. The third question that Jasbir Singh has posed has been posed previously by many people. To be honest I can not understand how can people indulge in such self loathing.

Jasbir Singh wrote :

"keI jIv (iensfn jF hor jIv jMq afid) aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik sfrI Aumr duK Bogdy hn aqy keI ivakqI aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik zwkf vI dUhrf nhIN krdy pr sfrI Aumr suK dI ijMdgI bsr krdy hn. aYsf ikAuN hY?"

To explain what Jasbir Singh means, believes, practices and where he is coming from, I will give you a true incident from my life. In 1984 I was 7 years old and living in Ranchi, Bihar. My Mom and Dad narrowly escaped death at the hands of mob on 1^st November and then for 3 days I saw shops and houses belonging to Sikhs being burned from my window. We were able to survive as we were living in a Telephone Exchange, a Government building. Now since I survived that does not mean that I am more righteous then others.

To let the readers decide, I quote a true incident recorded days after the the 1984 genocide that was placed before Nanavati Commission :

"Gurdip Kaur, a 45 year old woman from Block 32, Trilokpuri, told a typical story. Her husband and three sons were brutally murdered in front of her. Her husband used to run a small shop in the locality. Her eldest son, Bhajan Singh, worked at the railway station; the second, in a radio repair shop; and the third as a scooter driver.

She says, ‘On the morning of 1 November, when Indira Mata’s body was brought to Teen Murti, everyone was watching television. Since 8.00 am, they were showing homage being paid to her dead body.At about noon, my children said, "Mother, please make some food.We are hungry." I had not cooked that day, and I said, "Son, everyone is mourning. She was our mother too. She helped us to settle here. So I don’t feel like lighting the fire today."

‘Soon after this, the attack started. Three of the men ran out, and were set on fire. My youngest son stayed in the house with me. He shaved off his beard and cut his hair. But they came into the house. Those young boys, 14 and 16 years old, began to drag my son out even though he was hiding behind me.

‘They tore my clothes and stripped me naked in front of my son. My son cried, "Elder brothers, don’t do this. She is your mother just as she is my mother." But they raped me right there, in front of my son, in my own house. They were young boys, maybe eight of them. When one of them raped me, I said, "My child, never mind. Do what you like. But remember, I have given birth to children. This child came into the world by this same path."

‘After they had taken my honour, they left. I took my son out with me, and made him sit among the women, but they came and dragged him away. They took him to the street corner, hit him with lathis, sprinkled kerosene over him, and burnt him alive.

‘I tried to save him but they struck me with knives and broke my arm. At that time, I was completely naked. If I had even one piece of clothing on my body, I would have gone and thrown myself over my son and tried to save him. I would have done anything to save at least one young man of my family. Not one of the four is left."(When a Tree Shook Delhi, page 70)

Now Karmic people like Jasbir Singh would tell Gurdip Kaur : "It all makes sense- you deserved this fate; you sinned in a previous life and that’s why you have been gang raped in front of your son. There is no doubt that you are being punished for some serious transgressions either in this or previous life. You can see that, as always, justice prevails"

I don’t know about other Karmic readers but if I am there and I have a baseball bat handy, I would hit that person over the head and , as he screams in pain, I would say: "You deserve your pain not because of a sin in previous life but because you are a monster right now. You see that Justice has prevailed."

Grow up, go out and rather then indulging in intellectual exercise by debating help in alleviating pain, misery and suffering of people rather then blaming them. If you need addresses of some organizations which help orphans, refugees, sick children, I will be more than glad to help you.

It is not that some other people are suffering, it is you who is suffering.

afpy kMzf qolu qrfjI afpy qolxhfrf ] afpy dyKY afpy bUJY afpy hY vxjfrf ]3]{pMnf 730-731}

You Yourself are the balance, the weights and the scale; You Yourself are the weigher. You Yourself see, and You Yourself understand; You Yourself are the sufferer, You yourself is the victim, you yourself is the perpetrator.

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(12/10/08)
gurdyv isMG swDyvflIaf

bfbf hrdyv isMG jI lUlHoN vfilaF dI kQf dy kuwJ ku aMs

(1) -gurU goibMd isMG jI mhfrfj jd hjUr sfihb vl gey qF godfvrI dy kMzy qoN Auhnf hux vfly swcKMz vflI QF, ijQy AudoN mwsjd huMdI sI, qIr mfiraf aqy mwsjd dI kMD Zfh idqI! AudoN dy kfjI mulfixaF iekwTy ho ky bhfdr Èfh koly skfieq kIqI. bhfdrÈfh ny jd gurU sfihb nUM kfjIaF df AulHfmf suxfieaf qF gurU sfihb kihx lwgy cMgf iPr Zfh sfrI mwsjd asIN dsdy qYnUM ieh QF iksdI hY qy jd mwsjd ZfhI geI qF hyToN gurU sfihb df ipCly jnm df DUxf inkilaf! gurU sfihb kihx lwgy ieh sfzf ipCly jnm df DUxf hY ijQy bYT ky asIN qwp kIqf sI[ [ ? so sfD sMgq jI hymkuMt dIaF brPIlIaF phfVIaF qy aYvyN nhI jfieaf jFdf gurU sfihb ieQoN iqafrI kr ky gey sn!

--bfby awj kwl trMto ivwc hI hn kI Auh ds skdy hn ik ieh ‘ieiqhfs’ Auhnf ikhVy ‘gohj grMQ’ ivcoN piVaf ik AuQy pihly mwsjd sI aqy gurU sfihb ny qIr mfr ky iksy dI mwsjd dI kMD zyg idwqI?

(2) -gurU arjn pfqÈfh jd aMmRiqsr srovr dI syvf krf rhy sn qF ikRÈn Bgvfn Kud bwTl lY ky srovr dI syvf krn afey qF ikRÈn Bgvfn dI afmd qy gurU pfqÈfh ny Èbd Aucfiraf, ‘sMqF ky kfrj afp Kloieaf hr kMm krfvx afieaf rfm"]

-kI ieh gwl bfibaF nUM ‘ikRÈn Bgvfn’ ds ky gey sn jF gurU jI Kud ik ieh sbd ikRÈn Bgvfn dI afmd qy Aucfiraf smJxf jF ieh vI iksy ‘gohj grMQ’ dI kQf hY!

(3) -iÈv jI akfl purK koly gey aqy kihx lgy ik myrf idl krdf hY ik afp dy Gr puwqr bx ky jnm lvF qF akfl purK kihx lgy ik kwlXug ivwc mYN nfnk rUp jd afieaf qF AudoN qusIN myry Gr af jfxf. so sfD sMgq jI! sRI cMd jI mhfrfj iÈv jI df avqfr gurU nfnk sfihb dy Gry pYdf hoey aqy vr pUrf kIqf?

-bfbf jI nUM kI iÈv jI ny disaf jF sRI cMd jI ny mYN kOx aqy kdoN afieaf jF purfx ilKx vfly bRhfmxF vFg bfbf jI nUM koeI supnf afieaf. vYsy gurbfxI iehnf puwqrF bfry ‘puqrIN kOl n pfilAu’ kih rhI hY. vYsy hI ieh ‘iÈv jI mhfrfj’ gurU qoN Ault hI cldy rhy. jy gurU gRihsq ivwc rih ky Drm dI gwl isKfAuNdf sI qF sRI cMd awj dy bfibaF vFg CVf-CFt hox nUM mhwqqf idMdy rhy. jy gurU ikrq dI gwl krdy sn qF sRI cMd jI awj dy mhFpurKF vFg ivhly rihx ivwc ivÈvfÈ rwKdy rhy. jy gurU suhxI qrHF kpVy pihn ky rihx nUM qrjIh idMdy sn qF sRI cMd jI awj dy zyrydfrF vFg dunIaF qoN alihdf XfnI lMgotI pf ky ipMzy qy svfh mlx nUM vizafeI smJdy rhy. hryk kMm Auhnf gurU dI mrjI dy iKlfP kIqf Èfied Auhnf vr gurU dy Ault clx kr ky hI ilaf hovy[ [ ?

(4) -sRI cMd jI mhfrfj nUM bfdÈfh df sunyhf afieaf ik sfnUM af ky imlx. sRI cMd jI nf gey. bfdÈfh ny iPr sunyhf Byijaf iPr nf gey. afKr bfdÈfh kihx ligaf ik bdobdI cuwk ky lY afAu. pr sRI cMd jI cuwkx afieaF nUM kihx lwgy ik clo mYN afp hI cldf hF qusIN myrI afh kMblI hfQI qy rwKo. sfD sMgq jd kMblI hfQI qy rwKI qF hfQI qF mfry cMgfVF! hfQI koloN sRI cMd jI dI kMblI hI nf cuwk hoeI!

(4) -ZolkIaF icmitaF nfl Dfrnf- ‘E hym kuMt qy qpwisaf kIqI, mrd agMmVy ny’!

-hymkuMt qy bYTf hoieaf qpwsvI, XfnI ‘duÈt dmn’ sUrj pRkfÈ grMQ dI khfxI muqfbk bRhfmx hyT Èyr dI ivÈI hoeI Kwl coN pYdf hoieaf! kI bfbf jI ies khfxI nUM swc mMndy hn jF bfibaF koly koeI hor ‘gohj grMQ’ hY ijs ivwc ieh ‘ieiqhfs’ drj hY.

BfeI vIr isMG jI dy tksfl bfry ivcfr

[ [ mOj ieh hY ik keI lok sRI guru grMQ sfihb igafn dI pVHfeI qF AukI nhI krdy, isrP inhcl dfsI vydFq dy Goty dy ky QoVI purfxk ividaf ivwc vfkPIaq pRfpq krky Jt-pt guru Gr dy afÈy nUM apxI mUrKqf vl iKcx lg pYNdy hn aqy iek-iek quk dy keI-keI iKcvyN arQ dsdy hn. sgoN apxy arQF nUM pwkf krn vfsqy keI qrHF dIaF mnGVq AuQfnkF bxf bYTdy hn. ienHF dy arQ sfP dsdy hn ik ieh guru afÈy muqfbk nhI ikAuNik jd ÈbdF dy ivwc asMgqIaF rih jFdIaF hn aqy gurmiq dy nfl Auh arQ tfkrf nhI KFdy. gurmiq dI kwsvtI nfl mulwmy ids pYNdy hn. vwzI bfq ieh hY ik jd iek-iek quk dy do-do iqMn-iqMn arQ krdy hn qF iks qrHF Auh gurU afÈy dy ho skdy hn. pr ienHf kmjorIaF nUM CupfAuNx Kfqr Auh afK idMdy hn ik sfzy arQ sMprdfeI hn qy ieh sMpRdf BfeI mnI isMG qoN clI hY. (BfeI vIr isMG jI df ieh lyK 1906 ivwc Kflsf smfcfr ivwc Cipaf sI Aus vyly hfly tksfl vfly BfeI mnI isMG jI df nfm hI vrqdy sn. bfbf dIp isMG jI nUM hfly iehnI tksfl ivwc Èfml nhI sI kIqf?) pr jd ieiqhfs dI ksvtI nfl Koj kIqI jFdI hY qF BfeI mnI isMG jI aqy muwK igafnIaF df bVf Prk inkldf hY ijs krky ieh bfq sfbq nhI huMdI isvfey ies dy ik ieh BfeI mnI isMG jI nUM dsm gurU jI df Èigrd dwsky aKdy hn ik Aus jgHf qoN sMpRdfie clI hY.

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(11/10/08)
gurqyj isMG inAUËIlYNz

jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI) jIE

quhfnUM suafl duhrfAux dI loV nhIN ikAuNik quhfzy sfry juafb af cuwky hn. sgoN qusIN ieh dwso ik awj dy idn sfzy gurU ikhVIafN jUnF Bugq rhy hn?

qusIN ÈrDf ivwc aMnHy ho ky qF kih idEgy ik sfzy gurU ikAuN jUnF Bugqx? ieh juafb TIk qF hY pr pUrf juafb nhIN hY. pUrf ies leI nhIN ikAuNik gurmq JUTIafN jUnF qy krm-kFz dI Êulfm ËihnIaq ivcoN sfnUM smuwcf hI bfhr kwZdI hY. gurmq ies Êulfm ËihnIaq df iËkr ies leI krdI hY ik ies ivÈy qy crcf aqy ies df KMzx krnf hY, ies leI ieh hr QF hvfly leI hI afAuNdI hY. pr gurmq isiKaf ies gwl dI idMdI hY ik ies Êulfm ËihnIaq dy mwkV-jfl ivwcoN inklo qy nYiqkqf df sicafr jIvn jIE.

1[ qyrf sbdu qUMhY hih afpy Brmu khfhI ] nfnk qqu qq isAu imilaf punrip jnim n afhI ]4]1]15]35] {pMnf 162}

2[ anfQh nfQ kry bil jfAu ] punrip jnmu nfhI gux gfAu ]5]{pMnf 224}

3[ suin mn mgn Bey hY pUry mfieaf zol n lfgI ] khu kbIr qf kAu punrip jnmu nhI Kyil gieE bYrfgI ]4]2]53] {pMnf 334-335}

4[ afsf mhlf 5 ] kir ikrpf pRB aMqrjfmI sfDsMig hir pfeIaY ] Koil ikvfr idKfly drsnu punrip jnim n afeIaY ]1] imlAu prIqm suafmI apuny sgly dUK hrAu ry ] pfrbRhmu ijinH irdY arfiDaf qf kY sMig qrAu ry ]1] rhfAu ] mhf Auidafn pfvk sfgr Bey hrK sog mih bsnf ] siqguru Byit Bieaf mnu inrmlu jip aMimRqu hir rsnf ]2] qnu Dnu Qfip kIE sBu apnf koml bMDn bFiDaf ] gur prsfid Bey jn mukqy hir hir nfmu arfiDaf ]3] rfiK lIey pRiB rfKnhfrY jo pRB apuny Bfxy ] jIAu ipMzu sBu qumHHrf dfqy nfnk sd kurbfxy ]4]11]50] {pMnf 383}

ieh qF isrÌ cfr qukF dy hvfly hn qy aijhy keI byÈumfr hvfly hn. pihlF ieh dwso ik jd nYiqkqf df sicafr jIvn ies JUTIafN jUnF qy krm-kFzF dy mwkV-jfl ivwcoN kwZ idMdf hY qF jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI) jIE qusIN ies mwkV-jfl ivwc Psy rihxf ikAuN psMd krdy ho? qusIN gurmq dy rfh qoN ikAuN Btkxf cfhuMdy ho?

quhfzf suafl nMbr 2 aqy 3 "pfp" aqy "duK-suK" bfry hY. loV qF ieh hY ik pihly gurmq dy cfnx ivwc ieh smiJaf jfvy ik "pfp" aqy "duK-suK" kI hn? gurU nfnk sfihb dI afpxI aOlfd gurmq dy rfh cwlx qoN muwkr geI sI—kI gurU nfnk sfihb ny koeI pfp kIqf sI? kI gurU nfnk sfihb ny ies gwl df duwK mnfieaf sI ik aOlfd gurmq dy rfh cwlx qoN muwkr geI sI?

gurqyj isMG

vYilMgtn-inAUËIlYNz

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jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

s: avqfr isMG jI (imÈnrI) aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxo!

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

s: avqfr isMG jI! quhfzy pwqr ivwc ijnHF gwlF df iËkr kIqf igaf hY AunHF ivwcoN keIaF df qF mYN iËkr vI nhIN kIqf ijnHF df qusIN myry koloN jvfb mMg rhy ho. aqy bhuqIaF df mYN Kud vI KMzx kIqf hY. aqy ijafdf qr glF bfry (hor lyKkF dy pwqrF dy jvfb ivwc) mYN afpxy ivcfr awgy hI dy cuwkf hF. isrP bfr bfr duhrfAux vflI hI gwl hY. qusIN jF hor swjx iewk gwl nUM ijMnI vfrIN mrËI puCI jfvo mYnUM koeI ieqrfj nhIN pr ieko gwl nUM bfr bfr duhrfeI jfx nfl pfTk awk jfx gy.

qusIN iliKaf hY "aKOqI Drmrfj df iklHf ikwQy hY? Drmrfj df kohlU ikwQy hY? AuQoN df pqf kI hY? Auh bld jF AUT ikwQy hn, jo klipq kohlU awgy joV ky jIvF nUM pIVdy hn?

avqfr isMG jI! qusI afp hI myrI ilKq df hvflf idwqf hY ijs ivwc mYN iliKaf hY ik gurmq ivwc Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf igaf. jy Drmrfj hI nhIN qF kI quhfzy Aupr puwCy hoey sfry svfl by buinafd nhIN?

awgy qusIN iliKaf hY "pRBU dI rËf ivwc iewQy hI Bugqfn hoeI jf irhf hY" .

vIr jI! ies gwl nUM QoVHy jyhy Prk nfl mYN vI sivkfr kIqf hY. qusIN kih rhy ho ik iewQy hI Bugqfn hoeI jf irhf hY. arQfq iesy jIvn ivwc hI Bugqfn hoeI jf irhf hY. pr mYN kih irhf hF ik ieQy hI Bugqfn hoeI jf irhf hY arQfq iesy DrqI qy hI Bugqfn hoeI jf irhf hY pr jrUrI nhIN ik iesy jnm ivwc hI Bugqfn ho irhf hovy. ies sMbMDI iewk ivdvfn lyKk dy ivcfrF df hvflf dy ky mYN awgy vI svfl puwC cukf hF pyÈ hn dubfrf Auh ivcfr: "sdIaF qoN iswKF df jfnI duÈmn gMgU Kfndfn awj qwk ies dyÈ df mflk cilaf af irhf hY. sMn 1984 ivwc do vfrIN iswKF dy KUn dI holI KyzI geI. icqrgupq nyN Drmrfj qwk koeI Kbr nhIN pucfeI ik iehnF doÈIaF nUM sËf idE. Xfd rhy gMgU df puwqr sI rfj kOl, Ausdf lkÈmI nrfiex, Aus df gMgfDr, Aus df moqI lfl nihrU, qy moqI lfl df bytf jvfhr lfl nihrU…[ ieMdrf gFDI. muÊlF vyly qoN lYky aMgRyjF qwk ieh pirvfr bhuq vwzy srkfrI ahuidaF qy irhf. aQfh Dn kmfieaf. afpxy lokF nUM PFsI lgvfieaf. … (lyKk-pRo: ieMdr isMG Gwgf- isK ivrsf, kYlgrI agsq 2008).

vIr avqfr isMG jI! ies AuprlI ivcfr anusfr qusIN afp hI dwso ik gMgU dy nIc kMmF df iesy jnm ivwc ikhVf aqy iks qrHF Bugqfn hoieaF aqy 1984 ivwc hoey isKF dy kfqlF dy anmnuwKI kfiraF df ikhVf Bugqfn hoieaf? ieh isrP ieko hI imsfl hY afpxy afs pfs JfqI mfr ky dyK lE aYsIaF anykF hI imsflF iml jfx gIaF. (not: mYN Drmrfj bfry nhIN, kIqy cMgy mfVy krmF dy ihsfb dI gwl kIqI hY).

ijhVf qusIN srfDF, ipwqrF svrg, nrk afid df iËkr kIqf hY, Aus bfry mYN afpxy "afvfgAux aqy gurmq" lyK ivwc afp hI KMzx kr cukf hF ik gurmq iehnF gwlF nUM nhIN mMndI. Pyr ieh gwlF myry nfl joVn df kI mqlb hY?

vIr jI! gurbfxI coN kuwJ qukF pyÈ kr irhf hF aqy awgy vI keI vfrIN pyÈ kr cukf hF ijnHF df awj qwk koeI jvfb nhIN afieaf. AumId krdf hF ik hux qusIN jrUr jvfb dyvo gy.

"mfq ipqf binqf suq bMDp iest mIq aru BfeI] pUrb jnm ky imly sMjogI aMqih ko n shfeI] (pMnf-700).

"lK cAurfsIh BRmqy BRmqy dulB jnmu ab pfieE]" (pMnf-1017).

"aink jnm BrmqO hI afieE mfns jnmu dulBfhI]" (pMnf- 1207).

"iPrq iPrq bhuqy jug hfirE mfns dyh lhI] nfnku khq imln kI brIaf ismrq khf nhI] (pMnf- 631). iehnF AuprlIaF qukF dy arQ kr ky smJfxy jI.

gurU sfihb kihMdy hn: "scf qyrf amr scf dIbfx]" ieh Aus df iks qrHF df swcf iensfP aqy iks qrHF dI swcI kichrI hY ik iksy nUM aYsIaF jUnF ivwc pf idwqf hY ik sfrI Aumr duK Bogdy hn aqy keI sfrI Aumr suK mfxdy hn?

"lK cAurfsIh join sbfeI] mfns kAu pRIB dIeI vizafeI]" (anykF jUnF coN isrP mnuK nUM hI vizafeI ikAuN idwqI hY, hor jUnF df kI ksUr hY? ).

iqMn pRÈn (ijnHF dy jvfb awj qwk iksy ivdvfn vwloN nhIN afey):

1- kI gurbfxI ivcoN koeI iewk vI quk pyÈ kIqI jf skdI hY ijs ivwc sfP iliKaf hovy ik koeI gurmuK hovy jF mnmuK, mrn ipwCoN iksy df koeI jnm nhIN huMdf?

2- koeI ivakqI sfrI Aumr pfp dI kmfeI krky dOlq iekTI krky aYÈ dI ijMdgI bsr krky dunIaF qoN clf jFdf hY. Aus leI gurbfxI df kI Purmfn hY?

3- keI jIv (iensfn jF hor jIv jMq afid) aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik sfrI Aumr duK Bogdy hn aqy keI ivakqI aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik zwkf vI dUhrf nhIN krdy pr sfrI Aumr suK dI ijMdgI bsr krdy hn. aYsf ikAuN hY?

vIr avqfr isMG jI! mYN quhfzy kIqy qkrIbn sfry svflF dy jvfb dy idwqy hn jy koeI rih igaf hovy qF dws dyxf jI. jvfb dyx dI koiÈÈ krFgf. myry vwloN kIqy svflF dy jvfb dyx dI ikrpf krnI jI. DMnvfd.

jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

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pRIq kOr Kflsf

pRIq kOr Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

jsvMq isMGf qUM ieqrfË kIqf hY. jfiej hY. pr aPsos qUM iswK mfrg dy ipCly hvfly nhIN pVHy. pRoPYsr bVf imTf imTf ilKdf sI sB nUM jI jI krdf sI. Aus nUM gurcrn ny momoTgxf bxf qf qy gurqyj ny jI jI krn nUM XblIaF disaf. AudoN qoN mYN soc ilaf ik ieQy imTfs dI loV nhIN.

avqfr isMG mihsUs nf krIN mYN qYnUM kuwJ svfl puC rhI hF

avqfr isMGf qUM qq igafn df pRcfrk hYN. mYnUM hfly qfeIN nhI smJ afeI ik qq igafnf dy pRcfrkF nUM imÈnrI ilKx dI kI loV pY geI hY. kI ieh vwKvfd df pRgtfvf nhIN? jF qUM koeI Kfs tRyinMg leI hY, qF imÈnrI ilKdf hYN. jF qUM ieh afpxI afeIzYNttI leI vrq irhf hYN (jy ievyN hY qF TIk hY, qUM afpxy afp nUM jI sdky imÈnrI ilK) jF qUM smJdf hYN ik imÈnrIaF nUM kuwJ Kfs iksm df iganf huMdf hY. myry iKafl anusfr isMG, kOr jF Kflsf qF bixaf hI Èbd gurU df pRcfr krn dy imÈn nfl hY ies qoN Aupr koeI imÈn nhIN.

qyrf iewk lyK mYN piVHaf sI BUq pRyq aqy gYbI rUhF. iksy igl ny svfl puCy sI. qYnUM Auqr dyxf bxdf sI, qYnUM ienHF cIjF df jfdf jfxkfrI hY. Aus dy svfl sn.

igl dy svfl:

kI gurbfxI BUqF-pRyqF nUM mMndI hY ik nhIN. awgy jo gurbfxI Èbd ilKy hn, iehnF ivwc afey ‘BUq’ ‘pRyq’ ÈbdF dy kI arQ hn.

keI koit jKH ikMnr ipsfc]

keI koit BUq pRyq sUkr imRgfc] p L276

vIrvfir vIr Brim Bulfey]

pRyq BUq siB dUjy lfey] pM L841

kir ikrpf aMqir Aur Dfry]

psu pRyq muGd pfQr kAu qfrY] pM L274

qUM ienHf dy Auqr dyx dI QF afvfgox dy ckr ivwc pY igaf. ikAuN?

qUM afpxI icTI dy nfl iewk pYrf grfP lgf idMdf hYN ijvyN:

asIN hF-sR[ gurcrn isMG ijAuxvflf aqy srbjIq isMG (ieMtrnYÈnl isMG sBf amrIkf knyzf) sR[ ieMdRjIq isMG rfxf aqy sR[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf (gurmiq igafn imÈnrI kflj luiDafxf) sfbkf ipRMsIpl sR[ jsbIr isMG aqy pRo[ ipafrf isMG (sfihbËfdf juJfr isMG imÈnrI kflj ropV) pRo[ mwKx isMG aqy sR[ igafn isMG imÈnrI (gurmiq pRsfr sBf sYkrfmYNto) avqfr isMG imÈnrI, zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl (gurU gRMQ pRcfr imÈn afP XU[ aYs[ ey) sR qrlocn isMG sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI, sR blkfr isMG aqy blbIr isMG imÈnrI.

isMG qF klf hI svf lwK huMdf hY, ieh aYzI vwzI Poj df mqlB kI? kI ieh pRo: mwKx isMG sfzy ies sfiet vfly siqkfrXog mwKx isMG hn jF koeI hor? myry ipMz ivwc 100 bMdy hn. kI mYN vI Auh sfrI dI sfrI Poj df nfm ilK idaf krF. Aus sfrI Poj dy ivcfr myry nfl imldy hn. Auh vI KuÈ ho jfxgy.

pRIqo

(not:- pRo: mwKx isMG hor hY, Auh kYlyPornIaF ivc rihMdf hY aqy ies sfeIt nUM clfAux vflf mwKx isMG hor hY, Auh bI[ sI[ knyzf ivc rihMdf hY-sMpfdk)

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

sR[ jsvIr isMG jI vfih guru jI kf Kflsf vfih gurU jI kI Pqih.

quhfnUM 19 sqMbr nUM icwTI ilKI geI sI ijhVI ieAuN hY:

myry do lyK iesy ‘iswK mfrg’ qy ‘punrp jnm nf hoeI’ sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI horF lfey hoey hn. gurbfxI muqfbk sfP nËr afAuNdf hY ik ies jnm qoN bfad iesy bMdy df iksy hor jnm `c pYx df iksy nUM koeI pqf nhIN qy ieh sfrI kfZ bRfhmx dI hY. jy qusIN jIv afqmf nUM iql GfxI pIVn dI gwl krdy ho qF ipaf pRmfqmf GfxI pIVy ikAuNik afqmf qF hY hI prmfqmf df ihsf. myrf qF ÈrIr sI qy Auh sfV ky Kqm kr idwqf igaf jF pMj qwqF ivwc pMj qwq iml gey. mYNnUM kI? ‘Reincarnation’ vI bRfhmx dI kfZ hY. iesy krky hI sfry avqfr ivsnUM dI iPr qoN pYdf hoeI joq smJI jFdI hY. gurbfxI iesdf vI KMzn krdI hY. jy jIv afqmf mMn leIey, punr jnm mMn leIey qF bMdf zr dy cwkr qoN mukq ho hI nhIN skdf qy iehI ZONgI mhfjn/ bRfhmx jI ilK rhy hn. iPr ieh dwso ik ‘mfiraf iskf jgiq ivic nfnk inrml pMQu clfieaf’ df koeI mqlb rih jFdf hY?

mYnUM quhfzIaF ilKIaF pMgqIaF dy arQ krn dI loV ies krky nhIN ikAuNik mYN quhfnUM puwC irhf hF ik ‘agY’ df mqlb agly jnm ivwc kuwJ vfprn nfl ikvyN sbMiDq hY?

mfJ mhlf 4 ] hir gur igafnu hir rsu hir pfieaf ] mnu hir rMig rfqf hirrsu pIafieaf ] hir hir nfmu muiK hir hir bolI mnu hirris tuil tuil pAudf jIAu ]1] afvhu sMq mY gil mylfeIaY ] myry pRIqm kI mY kQf suxfeIaY ] hir ky sMq imlhu mnu dyvf jo gurbfxI muiK cAudf jIAu ]2] vzBfgI hir sMqu imlfieaf ] guir pUrY hirrsu muiK pfieaf ] BfghIn siqguru nhI pfieaf mnmuK grB jUnI iniq pAudf jIAu ]3] afip dieafil dieaf pRiB DfrI ] mlu hAumY ibiKaf sB invfrI ] nfnk ht ptx ivwc kFieaf hir lYNdy gurmuiK sAudf jIAu ]4]5] {pMnf 95}

ies sfry slok ivwc BivKq kfl dI gwl nhIN qy mnmuK dy grB ivwc hr roj pYx dI gwl kIqI geI hY ies krky ieh svfl KVf kIqf igaf sI ik ieh dwso mnmuK hr roj mF dy grB ivwc ikvyN pYNdf hY?

myrf EhI svfl iPr qoN hY ik "ikQY jfih smfhI" vflIaF pMgqIaF ivwc iks awKr df mqlb jIv afqmf hY?

gurbfxI df BgvF krn qy jor nf idE. gurU nfnk sfihb df sfrf jor bRfhmxI krm kFZ nUM afpxy Gr coN bfhr kwzx qy lwgf qy qusIN awj afpxf sfrf jor gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq df KMzn krdy hoey lokF nUM bRhmfxI mwq dy DfrnI bxfAux ivwc lf rhy ho. gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq nUM lokF dy Gr/mn `c vfVn qy lfE qF cMgf hovygf.

jy nfm jpx nfl koeI qrMgF inkldIaF hn qF isrP mhfjn dy ÈrIr ivcoN hI ikAuN inkldIaF hn qy Ausdy ividafrQIaF qy hI ikAuN asr krdIaF hn Auh myry qy kYnyzf `c bYTy qy asr ikAuN nhIN krdIaF? ikAuNik mhfjn jI JUT boldy hn. ienHF df pRo[ Gwgf jI qy kol bYTx qy vI asr nhIN hoieaf. ho skdf hY ik aYsIaF qrMgf df ienHF dy afpxy Gr dy jIaF qy vI asr nf huMdf hovy?

sfry gurU sihbfn ny kI bRfhmx/mhfjn nfloN nfm Gwt jwipaf sI? jy nhIN qF gurU sfihbfn dy afpxy bwcy AunHF dy hukm nuM ikAuN nhIN mMndy?

sR[ jsvIr isMG jI ieh vI ilK Gwlxf ik sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb df muwK Audys kI hY?

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

ijhVIaF gwlf ies icwTI ivwc quhfzy koloN puCIaF geIaF AunHF df jvfb awj qk nhIN afieaf. jy kr qusI kYligrI vfly ivrdI jI hI ho qF quhfzy nfl isrKpfeI df kI mqlb. ‘iswK ivrsy’ ivwc do cfr quhfzIaF ilKqF pVH ky aMdfjf lgfieaf sI ik qusIN gurbfxI nUM PrIdkotIaf tIkf bxf ky KuÈ ho qy mYnUM quhfzy nfl crcf krn dI koeI loV nhIN.

ies qoN pihlF vI iewk icwTI ivwc quhfnUM svfl kIqf igaf sI ik qusIN, "afgY aqy agy" df mqlb ies jnm ivwc nhIN sgoN mrn qoN bfad vflf ‘agy’ ikAuN krdy ho. koeI jvfb nhIN afieaf. ijqnI dyr qusIN pUrb-pwCm, awgy-ipCy, sMjog-ivjog, aËrfeIl PirÈqf, Drm rfie, Drm rfj, Drm rfj dy kuiqaF ijnHF df nfm Èrmf hY, nfrk-svrg qy hor sfry inkV-sukV bfry bRfhmx dy iKlfry hoey kUVy nUM hI Drm df kMm smJ rhy ho Auqnf icr gurU nfnk sfihb dy ivcfrF nUM qusIN nhIN smJ skdy. ikAuN?

afqmf: "kfieaf hMs sMjog myl imlfieaf]" (pMnf- 136).

"kfieaf kmlI hMs ieafxf myrI myrI krq ibhfxIaf] (pMnf- 156).

kfieaf dy arQ qusIN glq kr rhy ho. quhfzy muqfbk. kfieaf afqmf hY qy prmfqmf df ihsf hY qF 156 pMny vflI pMgqI ivwc qF iPr afmqf nUM kmlI ikhf hY. jy afqmf kmlI hY qf prmfqmf vI kmlf. ikAuN? ikAuNik afqmf prmfqmf df ihsf hY. iehdy bfry iÜK Byjxf jI.

gAuVI cyqI mhlf 1 ] aMimRq kfieaf rhY suKflI bfjI iehu sMsfro ] lbu loBu mucu kUVu kmfvih bhuqu AuTfvih Bfro ] qUM kfieaf mY ruldI dyKI ijAu Dr Aupir Cfro ]1] suix suix isK hmfrI ] suikRqu kIqf rhsI myry jIaVy bhuiV n afvY vfrI ]1] rhfAu ] hAu quDu afKf myrI kfieaf qUM suix isK hmfrI ] inMdf icMdf krih prfeI JUTI lfieqbfrI ] vyil prfeI johih jIaVy krih corI buirafrI ] hMsu cilaf qUM ipCY rhIeyih CutiV hoeIaih nfrI ]2] qUM kfieaf rhIaih supnµqir quDu ikaf krm kmfieaf ] kir corI mY jf ikCu lIaf qf min Blf Bfieaf ] hliq n soBf pliq n ZoeI aihlf jnmu gvfieaf ]3] hAu KrI duhylI hoeI bfbf nfnk myrI bfq n puCY koeI ]1] rhfAu ] qfjI qurkI suienf rupf kpV kyry Bfrf ] iks hI nfil n cly nfnk JiV JiV pey gvfrf ] kUjf myvf mY sB ikCu cfiKaf ieku aMimRqu nfmu qumfrf ]4] dy dy nIv idvfl AusfrI BsmMdr kI ZyrI ] sMcy sMic n dyeI iks hI aMDu jfxY sB myrI ] soien lµkf soien mfVI sMpY iksY n kyrI ]5] suix mUrK mMn ajfxf ] hogu iqsY kf Bfxf ]1] rhfAu ] sfhu hmfrf Tfkuru Bfrf hm iqs ky vxjfry ] jIAu ipMzu sB rfis iqsY kI mfir afpy jIvfly ]6]1]13] {pMnf 154-155}

ies slok ivwc kfieaf afpxI soc nUM ikhf igaf hY. aglIaF pMgqIaF pVHn nfl mqlb iblkul sfP smJ ivwc pY jFdf hY. qUM kfieaf mY ruldI dyKI ijAu Dr Aupir Cfro ]1] suix suix isK hmfrI ]

gur syvf qy, Bgiq kmfeI ] qb ieh mfns dyhI pfeI ] ies dyhI kAu ismrih dyv ] so dyhI, Bju hir kI syv ]1] Bjhu guoibMd, BUil mq jfhu ] mfns jnm kf eyhI lfhu ]1] rhfAu ] jb lgu jrf rogu nhI afieaf ] jb lgu kfil gRsI nhI kfieaf ] jb lgu ibkl BeI nhI bfnI ] Bij lyih, ry mn, sfirgpfnI ]2] ab n Bjis, Bjis kb BfeI ] afvY aMqu, n Bijaf jfeI ] jo ikCu krih, soeI ab sfru ] iPir pCuqfhu n pfvhu pfru ]3] so syvku jo lfieaf syv ] iqn hI pfey inrMjn dyv ] gur imil, qf ky KulÙy kpft ] bhuir n afvY jonI bft ]4] iehI qyrf aAusru, ieh qyrI bfr ] Gt BIqir qU dyKu ibcfir ] khq kbIru, jIiq kY hfir ] bhu ibiD kihE pukfir pukfir ]5]1]9] {pMnf 1159}

ienHF slokF ivwc afey lPË ‘kfieaf’ df mqlb ‘ÈrIr’ . jy kr ‘kfil gRsI nhI kfieaf’ kfieaf df mqlb afmqf kr idwqf jfey qF afmqf dy mrn dI gwl hY. Pyr quhfzy vflI ‘afmqf’ jo AuzfrI mfrky iksy dUr bYTy rwb kol jf ky ihfsb ikqfb idMdI hY, Auh qF ies slok ivwc mrdI idKfeI geI hY?

sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc 12 vfrIN lPË ‘afqmf’ afAuNdf hY qy iksy iewk QF vI ieh mqlb nhIN inkldf ik mry ÈrIr ivcoN afqmf inkl ky Drm rfie kol ihsfb ikqfb, lyKf-joKf krvfAux jFdI hY.

isrIrfgu mhlf 3 ] hir jI scf scu qU, sBu ikCu qyrY cIrY. lK cAurfsIh qrsdy iPry, ibnu gur Byty pIrY ] hir jIAu bKsy bKis ley, suK sdf srIrY ] gur prsfdI syv krI scu gihr gMBIrY ]1] mn myry, nfim rqy suKu hoie ] gurmqI nfmu slfhIaY dUjf avru nf koie ]1]rhfAu] Drmrfie no hukmu hY bih scf Drmu bIcfir ] dUjY Bfie dustu afqmf Ehu qyrI srkfr ] aiDafqmI hir guxqfsu min jpih eyk murfir ] iqn kI syvf Drmrfie krY DMnu svfrxhfru ]2] mn ky ibkfr mnih qjY, min cukY mohu aiBmfnu ] afqmrfmu pCfixaf shjy nfim smfnu ] ibnu siqgur muikq n pfeIaY mnmuiK iPry idvfnu ] sbdu nf cInY, kQnI bdnI kry, ibiKaf mfih smfnu ]3] sBu ikCu afpy afip hY dUjf avru nf koie ] ijAu bolfey iqAu bolIaY jf afip bulfey soie ] gurmuiK bfxI bRhmu hY sbid imlfvf hoie ] nfnk nfmu smfil qU ijqu syivaY suKu hoie ]4]30]63] {pMnf 38-39}

ies slok ivwc qF gurU sihbfn ny ihMdUaF dy Drm rfie nUM swc nfl juVn vfly dI syvf krn leI KVf kr idwqf hY. afqmf df mqlb mrn qoN bfad ÈrIr ivcoN inklx vflI iksy cIË df nfm ikvyN krogy?

slok m: 3 ] afqmf dyAu pUjIaY, gur kY shij suBfie ] afqmy no afqmy dI pRqIiq hoie, qf Gr hI prcf pfie ] afqmf azolu n zoleI, gur kY Bfie suBfie ] gur ivxu shju n afveI, loBu mYlu n ivchu jfie ] iKnu plu hir nfmu min vsY, sB aTsiT qIrQ nfie ] scy mYlu n lgeI, mlu lfgY dUjY Bfie ] DoqI mUil n AuqrY, jy aTsiT qIrQ nfie ] mnmuK krm kry ahMkfrI, sB duKo duKu kmfie ] nfnk mYlf AUjlu qf QIaY, jf siqgur mfih smfie ]1] {pMnf 87}

ies slok ivwc afqmf df mqlb mnuwKI ÈrIr Kqm hox qoN bfad inklx vflI iksy ÈY qoN nhIN.

sloku ] durmiq hrI syvf krI Byty sfD ikRpfl ] nfnk pRB isAu imil rhy ibnsy sgl jMjfl ]12] pAuVI ] duafdsI dfnu nfmu iesnfnu ] hir kI Bgiq krhu qij mfnu ] hir aMimRq pfn krhu sfD sMig ] mnu iqRpqfsY kIrqn pRB rMig ] koml bfxI sB kAu sMqoKY ] pMc BU afqmf hirnfm ris poKY ] gur pUry qy eyhu inhcAu pfeIaY ] nfnk rfm rmq iPir join n afeIaY ]12] {pMnf 299}

ies slok ivwc vI afqmf iksy ÈrIr ivcoN mrn qoN bfad inklx vflI iksy ÈY df nfm nhIN.

mÚ 2 ] eyk ikRsnµ srb dyvf dyv dyvf q afqmf ] afqmf bfsudyvis´ jy ko jfxY ByAu ] nfnku qf kf dfsu hY soeI inrMjn dyAu ]3] {pMnf 469}

pd arQ : —eyk ikRsnM—iek prmfqmf. srb dyv afqmf—sfry dyviqaF df afqmf. dyv dyvf afqmf—dyviqaF dy dyviqaF df afqmf. q—BI. vfsdyv— (ijvyN Èbd ‘ikRÈn’ df arQ ‘prmfqmf’ BI hY, iqvyN ‘ikRÈn’ jI df ieh nfm BI ‘prmfqmf’ arQ ivwc hI lYxf hY) prmfqmf. bfsudyvis´—prmfqmf df. bfsudyvis´ afqmf—pRBU df afqmf. inrMjn—aMjn (Bfv, mfieaf rUp kflK) qoN rihq hrI. 3[

arQ : —iek prmfqmf hI sfry dyviqaF df afqmf hY, dyviqaF dy dyviqaF df BI afqmf hY. jo mnuwK pRBU dy afqmf df Byd jfx lYNdf hY, nfnk Aus mnuwK df dfs hY, Auh prmfqmf df rUp hY. 3[

gUjrI mhlf 3 pMcpdy ] nf kfsI miq AUpjY nf kfsI miq jfie ] siqgur imilaY miq AUpjY qf ieh soJI pfie ]1] hir kQf qUM suix ry mn sbdu mMin vsfie ] ieh miq qyrI iQru rhY qF Brmu ivchu jfie ]1] rhfAu ] hir crx irdY vsfie qU iklivK hovih nfsu ] pMcBU afqmf vis krih qf qIrQ krih invfsu ]2] mnmuiK iehu mnu mugDu hY soJI ikCU n pfie ] hir kf nfmu n buJeI aMiq gieaf pCuqfie ]3] iehu mnu kfsI siB qIrQ isimRiq siqgur dIaf buJfie ] aTsiT qIrQ iqsu sMig rhih ijn hir ihrdY rihaf smfie ]4] nfnk siqgur imilaY hukmu buiJaf eyku visaf min afie ] jo quDu BfvY sBu scu hY scy rhY smfie ]5]6]8] {pMnf 491}

afqmf df mqlb mnuwKI soc qoN hY. soc kolU ivwc pIVI nhIN jf skdI. soc nUM sjf nhIN idwqI jf skdI. soc mYlI ho jFdI hY mYlI soc nUM hI mnuwK ny sfP krnf hY.

DnfsrI mhlf 1 ] ndir kry qf ismiraf jfie ] afqmf dRvY rhY ilv lfie ] afqmf prfqmf eyko krY ] aMqr kI duibDf aMqir mrY ]1] gur prsfdI pfieaf jfie ] hir isAu icqu lfgY iPir kflu n Kfie ]1] rhfAu ] sic ismiraY hovY prgfsu ] qf qy ibiKaf mih rhY Audfsu ] siqgur kI aYsI vizafeI ] puqR klqR ivcy giq pfeI ]2] aYsI syvku syvf krY ] ijs kf jIAu iqsu afgY DrY ] sfihb BfvY so prvfxu ] so syvku drgh pfvY mfxu ]3] siqgur kI mUriq ihrdY vsfey ] jo ieCY soeI Plu pfey ] sfcf sfihbu ikrpf krY ] so syvku jm qy kYsf zrY ]4] Bniq nfnku kry vIcfru ] sfcI bfxI isAu Dry ipafru ] qf ko pfvY moK duafru ] jpu qpu sBu iehu sbdu hY sfru ]5]2]4] {pMnf 661}

jy iksy mnuwK dI soc qy dUsry dI soc iewk ho jfvy qF vwKryvf Kqm ho jFdf hY.

kilpqru rog ibdfru, sMsfr qfp invfru, afqmf iqRibiD, qyrY eyk ilv qfr ] khu kIriq klshfr, spq dIp mJfr, lhxf jgqR guru pris murfir ]3] (pMnf 1391)

pd arQ: — kilpqru—klp ruwK, mno-kfmnF pUrIaF krn vflf ruwK. (sMsikRq dy ivdvfnF ny mMinaf hY ik ieh ruwK ieMdR dy sÍrg ivwc hY. vyKo, afsf dI vfr stIk, pAuVI 13, ‘pfirjfqu’ ) . rog ibdfru—rogF ƒ dUr krn vflf. sMsfr qfp invfru—sMsfr dy qfpF df invfrn vflf. afqmf iqRibiD—iqMnF iksmF vfly (Bfv, iqMnF guxF ivwc vrqn vfly) jIv, sMsfrI jIv. qyrY—qyry ivwc (hy gurU aMgd! ) . eyk ilv qfr—iewk-rs ilv lfeI rwKdy hn. 3[

arQ: — (hy gurU aMgd! ) qUM klp ruwK hYN, rogF dy dUr krn vflf hYN, sMsfr dy duwKF ƒ inivrq krn vflf hYN. sfry sMsfrI jIv qyry (crnF) ivwc iewk-rs ilv lfeI bYTy hn. hy kl´shfr! afK— ‘murfrI-rUp jgq-gurU (nfnk dyv jI) ƒ prs ky (aYsy gurU aMgd) lhxy dI soBf swqF dIpF ivwc PYl rhI hY’ . 3[

mnmuK nfmu n cyqnI ibnu nfvY duK roie ] afqmf rfmu n pUjnI dUjY ikAu suKu hoie ] hAumY aMqir mYlu hY sbid n kfZih Doie ] nfnk ibnu nfvY mYilaf muey, jnmu pdfrQu Koie ]20] mnmuK boly aMDuly iqsu mih agnI kf vfsu ] bfxI suriq n buJnI sbid n krih pRgfsu ] Enf afpxI aMdir suiD nhI gur bcin n krih ivsfsu ] igafnIaf aMdir gur sbdu hY inq hir ilv sdf ivgfsu ] hir igafnIaf kI rKdf hAu sd bilhfrI qfsu ] gurmuiK jo hir syvdy jn nfnku qf kf dfsu ]21] (pMnf 1415)

arQ: — hy BfeI! prmfqmf dy nfm qoN KuMiJaf hoieaf mnuwK (sdf afpxy) duwK Proldf rihMdf hY. afpxy mn dy ipwCy qurn vfly mnuwK prmfqmf df nfm nhIN ismrdy, srb-ivafpk pRBU dI BgqI nhIN krdy. (Blf) mfieaf dy moh ivwc (Psy rih ky AuhnF ƒ) suK ikvyN ho skdf hY? AuhnF dy aMdr hAumY dI mYl itkI rihMdI hY ijs ƒ Auh gurU dy Èbd dI rfhIN (afpxy aMdroN) Do ky nhIN kwZdy. hy nfnk! nfm qoN vFjy hoey mnuwK kImqI mnuwKf jnm gvf ky ivkfrF dI mYl nfl Bry rihMdy hn, qy afqmk mOq shyVI rwKdy hn. 20[

jy kr quhfnUM lwgy ik iksy slok ivwc ilKy awKr ‘afqmf’ df mqlb mrn qoN bfad inklI iksy afqmf vflf hY qf jrUr afpF ivcfr nUM jfrI rwKFgy nhIN qF ‘JKF mfrn’ df koeI mqlb nhIN.

sR[ bldyv isMG hFgkFg vfilE dsm gRMQ vflIaF sqrF nUM pVH ky bIbIaF (mYN kdI vI iksy aOrq nUM KflsIaF nhIN iliKaf) ikAuN duKI hoeIaF? ieh sfzy Drm nfl sbMiDq hY iksy dy Drm nfl nhIN. sR[ bldyv isMG jI ikqnf cMgf hovy jy kr qusIN iswK Drm bfry nf hI ilKo qF ikAuNik qusIN piVHaf kwK nhIN qy icTIaF ilK ky vfDU df lokF df smF Krfb krn df hI kMm krogy. afpF ‘vwDxI’ vflI vYb-sfeIt qy vI iewk dUjy nfl ivcfr ivtFdrf kr cuky hF. cMgf hovygf ky kr qusIN iÈvcrn isMG jwgI kusf dI qfrIP qy Auh quhfzI qfrIP krdf rhy. ies kMm ivwc qusIN suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI /ÈrnfrQI nUM vI nfl rlf skdy ho.

pRIq kOr Kflsf jI kI qusIN syvf isMG qrmfly dI spuqrI ho? jy kr myrI ieh mnOq TIk hY qf koeI hrË nhIN qusIN iksy vI ilKfrI dy nfm nUM ijvyN vI ilKxf cfho quhfnUM swB hwk hn pr ieh soc ky vyKxf ik kI iksy Kflsy nUM iksy vI mnuwK jfqI dy bMdy/aorq df nfm ivgfV ky ilKxf vrËq qF nhIN gurmiq muqfbk?

sR[ mihMdr isMG rficstr dy svflF df jvfb dyx qoN pihlf AunHF nUM vI kuwJ svfl pfey gey sn qy jvfb ilKx qoN Auh vI dOV igaf ies krky Ausdy svflF df jvfb dyx dI loV nhIN smJI geI.

ijnHF ny kdI iswK Drm df kfiedf vI nhIN piVHaf awj Auh lok sfnUM iswK Drm ivwc sfry df sfry bRfhmxvfd vfV ky smJf rhy hn ik BfeI sfihb gurU nfnk sfihb nrk-surg, krmf isDFq, muV muV jMmx dy cwkr (afvfgAux), Drm rfj df lyKf-joKf, iksy PrjI afqmf dy mrn qoN bfad ies ÈrIr ivcoN inkl ky Drm rfj kol lyKf dyx jfx dI gwl, ÈrfD, joqF, Dup-dIp afid nUM mMndy hn. iPr ieh jrUr dwsxf ik gurU nfnk df inrml pMQ kI hY?

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.

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avqfr isMG imsLnrI

aKOqI Drmrfj df kohlU iklHf afidk mnOqF bfry

sR bldyv isMG jI kih rhy hn ik "s: jsbIr isMG jI dI iql iql pIVn vflI gwl iblkul TIk hY, swc hY. kIqy hoey krmF df, pfpF df ihsfb dyx vfsqy kohlU ivcoN lMGxf hI pYxF hY, iksy nyN vI bfeIpfs nhIN jfx dyxF. ijhVf kihMdf hY nhIN, Auh gurU nfnk dI gwl kwt irhf hY."

pr pihly sR jsbIr isMG kYlgrI sR srbjIq isMG jI nUM sMboDn krky drsf rhy hn ik "vIr jI! qusIN ajrfeIl, Drmrfj, kohlU afid df ijkr kIqf hY. srvjIq isMG jI! Drmrfj aqy ajrfeIl ivwc Ìrk hY vI aqy nhIN vI. jdoN gurU sfihb iksy muslmfn nfl muÉfqb ho ky gwl krdy hn qF ajrfeIl lÌË df iesqymfl krdy hn aqy jdoN iksy bRhmx nfl ivcfr krdy hn qF Drmrfj/ Drmrfie Èbd df iesqymfl krdy hn. muslmfnF anusfr ajrfeIl mOq df Ìirsqf hY jo ik muslmfnF dy imQy hoey ZMg nfl afpxf kMm krdf hY aqy Drmrfj ihMdUaF df imiQaf hoieaf mOq df dyvqf hY jo ik ihMdUaF dy imQy hoey ZMg nfl afpxf kMm krdf hY. gurmq ny donF coN iksy dI vI hoNd nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. iewk gwl hor, Auh ieh ik jy koeI ivakqI ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM mMndf hY Auh Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMn skdf ijhVf ivakqI Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM mMndf hY Auh ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMn skdf. gurU sfihb ny ihMdUaF jF muslmfnF nUM gwl smJfx lwigaF AunHF dI bolI dy lÌË isrÌ sMkyq mfqr leI iesqymfl kIqy hn AunHF nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. gurU sfihb ny iksy dyvI dyvqy dI hoNd nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. ijs qrHF ihMdUaF ivwc sMsfr bnfAux vflf, irjk dyx vflf aqy sMsfr nUM Kqm krn vflf vwK vwK dyvqy mMny gey hn. pr gurU sfihb kihMdy hn sB kuwJ Aus pRBU dy Bfxy aqy hukm ivwc ho irhf hy koeI vwK vwK dyvqy sMsfr nUM nhIN clf rhy. gurmq anusfr iensfn dy cMgy mfVy krmF df lyKf krn leI koeI vwK-vwK dyvqy nhIN ibTfey hoey pr Aus dy krmF df lyKf qF huMdf hY. Auh lyKf koeI hor nhIN Auh prmfqmf afp krdf hY. "afpy kMzf afp qrfjI pRiB afpy qoil qolfieaf] (pMnf- 605).

keI idnF qoN iswK mfrg qy Drmrfj, afvfgvx, Drmrfj df iklHf aqy kohlU dI gwl cwl rhI hY lyKk afpo afpxy ivcfr pyÈ kr rhy hn. bhuq sfrIaF gurbfxI dIaF qukF idwqIaF jf rhIaF hn pr gurmiq df isDFq aqy gurbfxI dI zIplI BfvarQk ivcfr nUM Cwz ky kyvl awKrI arQ hI lfey jf rhy hn. jd ik pwQr qy lkIr hY ik gurmiq iksy vI mno klipq mnOq nUM mfnqf nhIN idMdI hF dUsiraF nUM smJfAux leI dUijaF dIaF mnOqF aqy ÈbdfvlI vrqI geI hY. Drm dy nF qy krmkFzF aqy vihmF BrmF df jfl ivCfa ky muwlF mOlfxy, jogI, bRfhmx pMizq aqy pIr Bfv aKOqI Dfrimk afgU aFm jnqf nUM aijhy nrkF svrgF dy zrfvy aqy bihÈqF dI lflsf dws ky dohIN hwQIN luwt rhy sn. gurU jI ny aijhy sfry zrF ClfivaF aqy bihÈqF dy lflcF nUM Cwz ky Bfv aOJV pg zMzIaF nUM Cwz ky zfierYkt rwb nfl juVn dI gwl kIqI hY. ikrq ivrq kridaF Gr pRvfr ivwc rihMidaF dunIaFdfrI dy Prj pflidaF aqy pRBU nUM Xfd kridaF hioeaF mnuwKf jnm sPlf krnf hY. gurmuKo gurbfxI dy Bfv arQ nUM smJx dI loV hY. ijvyN gurbfxI sMsfr df krqf krqfr nUM hI mMndI hY pr vyd ÈfÈqR afidk bRhmf nUM mMndy hn. jf krqf isrTI kAU sfjY (jpujI) afpy sfjy (gurbfxI) afpIny afp sfijE (afsf kI vfr) rwb nUM Bulxf jI nrk aqy Xfd rwKxf hI gurmiq df svrg hY. hor Purmfn "guru eIÈr guru gorKu brmf guru pfrbqI mfeI] Bfv gurU hI eIÈr (iÈvjI), gurU hI gorK, gurU hI bRhmF aqy gurU hI pfrbqI mF hY ievyN pRBU Kud hI aqy Aus df hukm hI Drmrfj hY. jo jIvF nUM hukm ivwc clf irhf hY. ies jIvn ivwc hI duK suK rfhIN inbyVf krI jf irhf hY. Aus dy Bfxy c cwlx vfly jIv AusnUM BfAuNdy hn bfkI BfvyN sohxI zIl zOl vfly hox pr aMdroN pIVq rihMdy hn. ijvyN iksfn iqlF dI KyqI bIjdf hY kuJ aYsy vI iqlF dy bUty pYdf ho jFdy hn jo dyKx nUM dUijaF nfloN vI Aucy lMby aqy PbvyN huMdy qy idKfeI idMdy hn pr AunHF dIaF PlIaF ivwc dfixaF dI QF kflK (kFigafrI) BrI huMdI hY Purmfn hY-PlIaih PulIaih bpuVy BI qnN ivic suafhu] (afsf kI vfr) iswKI df qF gfzI rfh hY Bfv iswDf rsqf hY-gurmuK gfzI rfh clMdf] (Bf gu[ ) gurU df iswK nUM sMdyÈ hY ikrq kro, vMz Cko aqy ijs ny pYdf kIqf aqy rojI dy irhf hY Aus nUM sdf Xfd rwKo Bfv nfm jpo.

bfkI AupRokq zrfvy qy lflc anmwqF ivKy hI idwqy gey hn gurmiq ivwc ienHF df smJfAux leI ijkr qF jrUr hY pr mfnqf nhIN. kI koeI gurbfxI dy aDfr qy (grV purfx dy nhIN) dwsygf ik aKOqI Drmrfj df iklHf ikwQy hY? kIklipq nrk svrg akfÈ ivwc hn? jy hn qF ikwQy hn? kI gurbfxI klipq nrk svrg dI hfmI hY? Drmrfj df kohlU ikwQy hY? AuQoN df pqf kI hY? Auh bld jF AUT ikwQy hn? jo klipq kohlU awgy joV ky jIvF nUM pIVdy hn. pRBU dI rjf ivwc iewQy hI Bugqfn hoeI jf irhf hY. ieh mq soco ik vwzy vwzy amIr lok suKI hn nhIN Purmfn hY-vwzy jo dIsih log]iqn kAu ibafpY icMqf rog] (gurU gRMQ) lok ijMdy mF bfp dI syvf nhIN krdy pr miraF dy srfD krfeI jFdy hn-jIvq ipwqr n mfnY koAU mUey isrfD krfhI]ipqr BI Bpury khu ikaf pfvih kAUaf kUkr KfhIN] (gurU gRMQ)

so gurmuKo gurbfxI ivKy smJfAux leI vrqI geI ÈbdfvlI ghu nfl ivcfro ik gurU jI aijhIaF mnOqF aqy ÈbdfvlI ikAuN vrqdy sn? gurmiq bfkI sB mwqF qoN inafrI hY iPr gurmiq dy isDFq vI inrfly, srb dyÈI aqy srbkflI hn. gurmiq swc pRym afidk dYvI guxF df mfrg hY. gurbfxI dy mUl qoN nF tuto ikAuNik-mUl ibnF ÈfKf kiq afih] pr awj dy sMq qy zyrfvfdI kQfvfck sfnUM mn GVq kQf khfxIaF ijnHF df ijkr anmwqF ivKy hY bVy csikaF nfl suxf suxf ky sfnUM vI kpol mnOqF mMnx dy afdI jF nÈeI bxfeI jf rhy hn. dyKo gurU gRMQ qF pukfr pukfr ky kih irhf hY ik "surg bfs nf bFCIaY zrIaY nf nrk invfs] hoxf hY so hoeI hY mnih nf kIjY afs] (gurU gRMQ) ieh sMsfr hI rwb df Gr hY, kcihrI hY, rwbI drgfh hY aqy rwb iewQy hI rihMdf hY ikqy asmfnF qy nhIN aqy iewQy hI iensfP krdf hY-ieh jg swcy kI hY koTVI swcy kf ivic vfsu] aqy ieh sMsfr qum jo dyKdy eyhu hir kf rUp hY] (gurU gRMQ) iswK sdf hI vrqmfn ivwc jINdf hY, Buq dI icMqf aqy BivwK lflc nhIN krdf. gurmuKo afp gurbfxI dI zIplI ivcfr kiraf kro nf ik awKrI arQF dy mwgr lwg ky anmqI isDFq hI apxfeI jfE ijnHf df gurmiq ivKy BrvF KMzn hY-krm Drm pfKMz jo dIsih iqin jm jfgfqI lUtY] (gurU gRMQ) jo pRymI Drm dI ikrq krdy, vMzky Ckdy, rwb df nfm jpdy, syvf, prAukfr krdy aqy duK suK ivwc rfjI rihMdy hoey dUijaF df duK suK vMzfAuNdy, hAuNmy hMkfr aqy vYr BfvnF qoN Aupr AuT ky pRBU mflI dy ho ky bfg dy PuwlF vFg iKVy rihMdy hn AunHF nUM mno kpipq mnOqF mMnx aqy AunHF qoN zrn dI loV nhIN. Auh isDy gurU dI ivcfrDfrf nfl juVdy hn nf ik iksy sfD sMq sMpRdfeI zyrydfr dIaF pYdf kIqIaF krmkFzF dIaF sMglIaF ivwc jkVy rihMdy hn. ijvyN awj df aKoqI sfD lfxf aqy AunHF dy ipClwg iswK afpxy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM Cwz ky kfmk aqy BYVy niÈaF dIaF vfrqfvF nfl nwko knk Bry aKoqI dsm gRMQ nUM gurU gRMQ jI dy brfbr pRkfÈ krky gurU gRMQ df ÈrIk pYdf krky gurU igafn qoN Btk dy jf rhy hn. afpxy igafn dy vfDy leI dUjy DrmF dy gRMQF df vI aiDaYn krnf cfhIdf hY nf ik AunF dIaF mnOqF nUM gurmiq ivwc rl-gz kr dyxf cfhIdf hY. iksy nUM kI afKIey awj dIaF pMQk tksflF, sMpRdfvF aqy iswK zyry hI anmwqF df imlgoBf pRcfr krky iswKF df Bgvfkrn krI jf rhy hn ijs nUM zUMigafeI nfl smJx dI aiqaMq loV hY nF ik ibnf jfxy bihsF krky Kuafr hox dI. gurU gRMQ dI bfxI igafn df sUrj hY ijs dI ivcfr sfry Brm aMDyry dUr kr idMdI hY. loV gurU isDfqF nUM smJ ky AunHf qy idRV ivÈvfÈ krn aqy jIvn ivwc Dfrn krn dI hY. iswK nUM mUl nfloN nhIN tutxF cfhIdf bfhr ijDr mrjI iPr afvy.

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jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih.

pfTk jI! afqmf, jUnF aqy krmF bfry jo ivcfr crcf cwl rhI hY Aus sMbMDI gurqyj isMG jI ny iliKaf hY "quhfzy sfry gurbfxI hvfly qy qukF leI DMnvfd ikAuNik AunHF sfiraF df asl kyNdrI Bfv hI jUnF qy krm kFzF dy gDI-gyV dy briKlfP hY. pr ikAuN jo ieh quhfzI hI gurmq dy Ault injI Dfrnf hY ik jUnF qy krm kFz huMdy hn qF iPr suafl df jvfb dyxf qF quhfzf bxdf hY" .

pfTk jI! mYN afpxy ies pwqr ivwc nvIN ivcfr koeI nhIN dyvFgf. isrP aqy isrP hux qwk dy ‘iswK mfrg’ qy Cp cuwky myry lyK/ pwqrF ivwcoN hI kuwJ hvfly dyvFgf. inrxf krnf quhfzy hwQ hY ik kI myry vwloN pyÈ kIqIaF gurbfxI dIaF qukF ivwc ikqy vI krm-kFz df iËkr nËr afAuNdf hY? (not: gurbfxI dIaF qukF sfrIaF hI dubfrf pyÈ kr irhf hF ies leI pfTkF pfsoN muafÌI cfhuMdf hF lyikn ieh jrUrI hY. 2- pwqr lMbf hox dy zroN sMbMDq ivÈy bfry gurbfxI dI iewk iek quk hI pyÈ kIqI jf rhI hY jy iksy swjx nUM lwgy ik pUrf Èbd jF slok pVHn nfl arQ kuwJ hor ho jfxgy qF Auh quk df hvflf dy ky afpxy ivcfr dy skdy hn).

afqmf: "kfieaf hMs sMjog myl imlfieaf]" (pMnf- 136).

"kfieaf kmlI hMs ieafxf myrI myrI krq ibhfxIaf] (pMnf- 156).

"kfieaf hMs ikaf pRIq hY ij pieaf hI Ciz jfie] (pMnf-510).

"hMsu cilaf kfieaf kumlfnI] (pMnf-792).

"hMsu clsI zUmxf aih qnu ZyrI TIsI] (pMnf-794).

"afpInHy Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf] (pMnf-464).

"iehu srIr sBu Drm hY ijsu aMdir scy kI ivwc joiq] (pMnf-309).

"acrj kQf mhf anUp] pRfqmf pfrbRhm kf rUpu] rhfAu] nf ieh bUZf…[[ ] nf iehu ibnsY nf iehu jfie …[[ ] (pMnf-868). (pRfqmf= jIvafqmf)

krm: "suK duK pUrb jnm ky kIey so jfxY ijin dfqy dIey] iksu kAu dos dyih qUM pRfxI shu afpxf kIaf krfrf hy] (pMnf-1030).

"krmf Aupir inbVY jy locY sB koie] (pMnf-157).

"pRfnI kfhy kAu loiB lfgy rqn jnm Koieaf] pUrb jnim krim nfhI boieaf] (pMnf-481).

"jyhf bIjY so luxY krmf sMdVf Kyq" ] (pMnf-134).

"krm DrqI srIr jug aMqir jo bovY so Kfiq] (pMnf-78).

"ikrq krm ky ivCuVy kir ikrpf mylhu rfm] (pMnf-118).

jUnF: "Audm krih anyk hir nfm n gfvhI] Brmih join asMK mir jnmih afvhI]psU pMKI sYl qrvr gxq kCU n afvey]bIj bovis Bog Bogih kIaf afpxf pfvey] (pMnf-705). (iewQy krmF aqy jUnF df iËkr hY)

"asQfvr jMgm kIt pqMgf] aink jnm kIey bhu rMgf] aYsy Gr hm bhuq bsfey] jb hm rfm grB hoie afie] kbhU rfjf CqRpiq kbhU ByKfrI…[ ] (pNnf 326).

gurqyj isMG jI ny myry vwloN pyÈ kIqIaF gurbfxI dIaF qukF dy hvfilaF df jvfb dyx dI bjfey Aultf myry qy hI jvfb dyx dI juMmyvfrI pf idwqI hY. jy gurqyj isMG jI nUM qukF ivwc krm-kFzF dy iKlfP kukuJ iliKaf nËr afAuNdf hY qF ies bfry AunHF nUM hI dwsxf bxdf hY ik ikwQy iks krm kFz dI gwl kIqI hY? ieh qF pfTk hI PYslf krn ik ikqy koeI krm-kFz nËr afAuNdf hY aqy jvfb iks nUM dyxf bxdf hY?

s: gurqyj isMG jI awgy ilKdy hn "so gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwcoN hI hvflf dyky ieh dwso ik awj dy idn sfzy gurU sfihbfn ikhVIaF jUnF ivwc iPr rhy hn? "

jy gurqyj isMG jI ny afpxy mn dI bx cukI ivcfrDfrf nUM pfsy rwKky gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM piVHaf huMdf qF AunHF nUM ieh svfl puCwx dI jrUrq nhIN sI pYxI ik "awj dy idn gurU sfihbfn ikhVIaF jUnF ivwc iPr rhy hn" ? gurU sfihbF vrgy purK iksy jnm mrn dy gyV ivwc nhIN pYNdy blik hor ikMinaF nUM hI pRBU dI BgqI ivwc lgfky jnm mrn dy gyV qoN mukq krf idMdy hn. Auh ijs pRBU dI joq huMdy hn Ausy ivwc hI smfey huMdy hn. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn "jnm mrn duhhU mih nfhI jn prAupkfrI afey] jIa dfn dy BgqI lfiein hir isAu lYin imlfie]scf amru scI pfqsfhI scy syqI rfqy]" (pMnf-749). jy gurqyj isMG jI ny iswK mfrg qy lyK aqy pwqr iDafn nfl pVHy huMdy qF Aupr idwqf pRÈn km-s-km mYnUM qF nf puiCaf huMdf ikAuik isrP do hI hPqy pihlF ies bfry mYN afpxy ivcfr iswK mfrg qy dy cuwkf hF. ‘afvfgAux aqy gurmq’ nF df pUrf lyK ‘isK mfrg’ qy piVHaf jf skdf hY. pyÈ hn Aus lyK dy kuwJ aMÈ: "prmfqmf dy hukm ivwc jIv dunIaF qy afAuNdf hY. Aus dy hukm anusfr iewQy ivcrdf hY. Aus dI rËf ivwc cwl ky bMdf Ausy pRBU df rUp ho jFdf hY ijs pRBU dI Auh aMÈ hY Ausy ivwc smfa jFdf hY aqy afvfgmn arQfq jnm mrn df gyV hmyÈF leI muk jFdf hY.

"siqguir imilaY Pyr n pvY jnm mrn duK jfie] (pMnf-69).

"jMmx mrn iqnHf kf cUkf jo hir lfgY pfvY] (pMnf-438).

Aus dy hukm nUM nf pCfxidaF hoieaF jF Aus dy hukm qoN afkI ho ky afpxI mrËI df mnmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky mrn ipwCoN mnuKf jnm ivwc kIqy krmF aqy Aus pRBU dy hukm anusfr bMdf jnm mrn arQfq afvfgAux dy gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY aqy duK Bogdf hY.

"mnmuK krm kmfvxy hAumY jlY jlfie] jMmx mrn n cUkeI iPir iPir afvY jfie] (pMnf-68).

"ieknf mnmuiK sbdu n BfvY bMDin bMiD Bvfieaf] lK cAurfsI iPir afvY ibrQf jnm gvfieaf] (pMnf-69).

"mnmuKf nUM iPr jnm hY nfnk hir Bfie]" (pMnf-410).

pfTk jI! ieh pwqr afp jI nUM sMboDn krky iliKaf igaf hY aqy afp jI qoN hI iensfP dI mMg krdf hF ik iemfndfrI nfl afpxy ivcfr dyxf jI. iensfP krn ligaF mYN ieh nhIN kihMdf ik myry hwk ivwc hI boilaf jfvy pr inrpwK ho ky PYslf kIqf jfvy jI. (gurqyj isMG jI vI afpxy ivcfr dy skdy hn).

iqMn pRÈn (ijnHF dy jvfb awj qwk iksy ivdvfn vwloN nhIN afey):

1- kI gurbfxI ivcoN koeI iewk vI quk pyÈ kIqI jf skdI hY ijs ivwc sfP iliKaf hovy ik koeI gurmuK hovy jF mnmuK, mrn ipwCoN iksy df koeI jnm nhIN huMdf?

2- koeI ivakqI sfrI Aumr pfp dI kmfeI krky dOlq iekTI krky aYÈ dI ijMdgI bsr krky dunIaF qoN clf jFdf hY. Aus leI gurbfxI df kI Purmfn hY?

3- keI jIv (iensfn jF jIv jMq afid) aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik sfrI Aumr duK Bogdy hn aqy keI aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik zwkf vI dUhrf nhIN krdy pr sfrI Aumr suK dI ijMdgI bsr krdy hn. aYsf ikAuN hY?

bynqI: s: mwKx isMG (puryvfl) jI! afp jI ny PYslf kIqf hY ik 12 akqUbr qoN qusIN krmF, jUnF, afqmf bfry ivcfr crcf bMd kr rhy ho ikAuNik ieh ivcfr iksy nqIjy qy nhIN phuMcI. mwKx isMG jI! ieh mslf aYsf hY ik mYN smJdf hF ik ies df PYslf Èfied sdIaF qwk vI nf ho sky pr ies bfry ivcfr qF iesy qrHF cwldI hI rhy gI. gurmq bfry jdoN koeI pRÈn iksy swjx vwloN afAuNdf hY qF Aus bfry Koj krn dI pRyrxf imldI hY. afpF iksy PYsly qy phuMcIey jF nf pr Pyr vI kuwJ nf kuwJ qF hfsl huMdf hI hY. ies leI afp awgy bynqI hY ik imhrbfnI krky ies ivcfr crcf nUM hjy bMd nf kIqf jfvy jI.

bynqI: pTkF awgy bynqI hY ik iksy kfrx mYN ivcr crcf ivwc kuwJ smy leI Èfml nhIN ho skFgf ies leI muafPI cfhuMdf hY. DMnvfd.

jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

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(08/10/08)
bldyv isMG "buwD isMG vflF" hFg kFg

(bldyv isMG "buwD isMG vflF" hFg kFg)

sfry iswK mfrg dy pfTkF qy lyKkF vfsqy. (8/10/08)

bhuq idnF qo iswK mfrg qy aglf jnm qy ipCly jnm bfry jfBf df ByV ho irhf hY. agly jnm bfry bfxI ivwc bhuq vfr iËkr afieaf hY mYnUM ilKx dI loV nhI ikAuik ies df jvfb myry grFeI sR bldyv isMG PIroËpurIey dy idwqf hY mYnUM duhrfAux dI loV nhI, hF ivwc hF imlfAux dI loV hY ik aglf jnm hY sfnUM cMgy mfVy krmF df Pl jrUr imlygf iksy nUM aYQY iml jfdf hY qy iksy nUM agly jnm ivwc. ieh gwl sfry Drm kihMdy hn jy ieh gwl nF hovy qF dunIaF ivwc hf hf kfr mwc jfvy koeI aMmRq nf Cky iksy nUM nOkrI krn dI loV nhI, iksy nUM pfT pUjf dI loV nhI, isrP 32 bor dy ipstl dI loV hY koeI mF bfp dI jF vwZy Brf dI syvf krn dI loV hY. pr glq kMm krn qy rwb mUMh qy cpyV jrUr mfrdf hY ik glq kMm krn vflf bMdf smJ jfvy keI qF rwb dI cpyV smJ jFdy hn qy keI nhI. qusI dyK rhy ho ierfk ivwc amrIkf dy POjIaF hwQo by-gunFh mfry jf rhy hn. ierfk qF gulfm hY kuC kr nhI skdf pr rwb ikqy kflIPornIaF ivwc kdy PlorIzf ivwc kdy ikqy kdy ikqy rwb amrIkF nUM afPqF hI aFPqF pfeI rKdf hY pr amrIkf iPr nhI bfË afAudf. myry sfhmxy keI bMidaF ny sfrI Aumr aYs kIqI, Gr idaF df lhU pIqf, zwkf nhI qoiVaf, koeI cMgf kMm nhI kIqf sgo kIqy kMm ivwc nuks kwiZaf mrn vyly eyarkMzIÈn vfly hwspqfl ivwc mry. asI socdy sI ieh mrn vyly bhuq BYVI mOq mrUgf pr ievy nhI hoieaf sfied AuhnF dy idl ivwc hovygf "afh jwg imwTf aglf iks izwTf". aqy keI afdmIaF nUM mY dyK irhf hF duwK GridaF nUM bhuq duwK idwqf, by-gunFhF nUM puls qo PVvfieaf hux Auh Bugq rhy hn ikAUik Aulfd mfVI inkl geI qy afvdy hwQ Pyr jvfb dy gey. agly jnm df bfxI ivwc hvflf hY "keI jnm Bey kIt pqMgf" afid. bfkI BfeI jy mMnxF hY qF mMno nhI qF quhfzI mrjI pr mY qF khUMgf ik sfnUM awgy jf ky iql iql df ihsfb dyxF pvygf "mn rfm ismr pCqfeygf Drm rfey jb lyKf mFgy ikaf mUMNh lYky jfeygf" bfkI sR jsvIr isMG "kYlgrI" vfly ny vI bfxI df hvflf die ky ikhf hY ik aglf jnm hY qy cMgy mfVy kMm df lyKf joKf hovygf, jsvIr isMG ny myry guaFZI sR gurcrn isMG brfV nUM vI bfxI df hvflf dyky jvfb mMigaf hY pr aPsos myry guaFZI ny jvfb nhI idwqf puwCxF qf mY sI pr mY zr igaf ik kI pqf srdIaF mOky ieh knyzf qo afvy qy mY hFg kFg qo afvF qy ikqy bfGy vfly iekwTy ho gey ikqy mYnUM igwcIAuN nF PV lvy ik hux bol ikAuik mY igafnI sMqoK isMG vFgUM dbfAU hI irhf hF. qrlocn mhfjn cuwp krky bYT igaf qy mY kOx ivcfrf hF. bfeI gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf jI dsm gRMQ nUM mY nhI mMndf qy bfr bfr iqRaf cirwqr dIaF ieqrfË Xog lfeInF ilKxIaF myhrbfnI krky bMd kr idE ikAuik sfry jfx gey hn ik dsm gRMQ kok Èfsqr hI hY. gurU goibMd isMG jI nUM bdnfm krn vfsqy cfl cwlI hY. hF jy koeI puCdf hY qF AusnUM eI myl kr dyvo. ikAuik BYx pRIq kOr Kflsf ny bhuq burf mnfieaf hY qy mY vI iesdy hwk ivwc hF. so Buwl cuwk dI iKmF df jfck.

bldyv isMG "buwD isMG vflf’ hFg kFg

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(08/10/08)
gurqyj isMG inAUjLIlYNz

ipafry mwKx isMG jIE,

bhuq vDIaf gwl hY ik afKr qusIN JUTIafN jUnF qy krm-kFz dI crcf bMd kr rhy ho. iek lyK df ilMk vI dy irhf hF ijs ivwc ieh ivÈf ivcfiraf igaf hY:

http://www.sikhs.wellington.net.nz/Critical%20Review-HarbansLal.pdf

pr s: jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI) qoN ies jfxkfrI dI AuzIk rhygI ik sfzy gurU awj ikhVI jUn ivwc hn? nhIN qF Gwto Gwt kuJ AunHF bfry hI dws dyx ijnHF dy nF s: gurmIq isMG afstrylIaf ny igxfey hn.

gurqyj isMG

vYilMgtn-inAUjLIlYNz

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(07/10/08)
bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

iswK mfrg dy swB ivdvfn ilKfrI aqy pfTk vIrF nUM

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

Jgrf eyku inbyrhu rfm ] jAu qum apny jn sO kfmu ]ñ] rhfAu

sB sMgq jIE kbIr sfihb jI qF afpxyN rfm (pRBU, akfl purK) nUM inhorf dy ky kihMdy hn, ky hy rfm jy qF qYnUM sfzy nfl koeI kMm hY qF pihly myrf iewk JgVf hwl kr. kbIr sfihb jI df qF hovygf koeI iewk awDf JgVf, pr sfzy qF ijwDr vyKo JgVy hI JgVy, JgVf hI JgVf. iewk JgVf Kqm nhIN huMdf dUsrf sLurU. kbIr sfihb jI nyN qF rfm nUM hnorf dy idwqf, pr asIN iks nUM afKIey? . sMgq jIE, rfm nUM qF asIN dyiKaf nhIN, myry iKafl qusIN vI myrI ies gwl nfl sihmq hovogy, ik sfnUM afpxyN gurU pfs ieh ardfs bynqI krnIN cfhIdI hY. pr sfzy JgVy df kfrn vI Èfied iehI hY, ik asIN gurU df hukm nhIN jfxdy jF gurU df hukm nhIN mMndy, ies vfsqy JgVf ikvyN muwky? gurU df hukm qF hI mMinaF jf swkdf hY, jy sfnUM gurU df zwr, gurU df BYa hovygf. gurU df BYa qF hI pYdf hoyvygf, jy gurU nfl sfzf ipafr hovygf. ikAuN ky jd qwk gurU nfl sfzf ipafr nhIN hovygf, asIN gurU dI prvfh nhIN krFgy. jy prvfh nhIN qF zr nhIN. so swB guxF df mUlgux hY "ipafr" . aqy ijwQy ipafr hovygf AuQy JgVy df kI kMm. aqy ijwQy gurU df zr hovygf AuQy koeI burf krm bn hI nhIN swkdf.

ibnu gur koie n rMgIaY guir imilaY rMgu cVfAu ] gur kY BY Bfie jo rqy isPqI sic smfAu ]ó] BY ibnu lfig n lgeI nf mnu inrmlu hoie ] ibnu BY krm kmfvxy JUTy TfAu n koie ]ô] ôò÷, m; ó

(ñ) agr sfzf gurU nfl ipafr hovygf, asIN koeI gwlqI nhIN krFgy, asIN zrFgy ik ikqy gurU nrfj nF ho jfvy.

(ò) asIN iksy nfl JgVf nhIN krFgy, asIN kOVf bcn nhIN bolFgy, zrFgy ik ikqy gurU nrfj nF ho jfvy.

(ó) asIN iksy df mn nhIN duKfvFgy, iksy df apmfn nhIN krFgy, zrFgy ik ikqy gurU nrfj nF ho jfvy.

(ô) asIN kroD nhIN krFgy, asIN hMkfr nhIN krFgy, hMkfr qoN bcFgy, asIN zrFgy ik ikqy gurU nrfj nF ho jfvy.

(õ) loB lflc aqy moh qoN vI asIN qF hI bc swkdy hF jy sfnUM gurU zr hovygf.

(ö) mfn, vizafeI aqy eIrKf, kOx bicaf hY ienHF aOgxF qoN? , ieh swB qoN aOKI GftI hY. agr gurU df ipafr aqy zwr hovy qF sihjy hI iehnF qy kfbU pfieaf jf swkdf hY.

pr awj dy smyN ivwc kOx prvfh krdf hY iehnF gwlF dI. ieh aogx iqafgx dI bjfie asF nyN iehnF aOgxF nUM afpxF iÈMgfr bnfieaf hoieaf hY. dyK lvo ieh aOgx Dfrn krky asIN afpxyN afp ivwc iknF mfn mihsUs krdy hF. dUsry nUM nIvF idKfAuxF awj sfzf muwK mksd bn cukf hY.

aqy ijnHF guxF df asIN iÈMgfr krnF sI. gurbfxIN anUsfr ijnHF guxF df iÈMgfr krky, jF ijnHF guxF nUM Dfrn krn nfl sfzy pRIqm nyN KuÈ hoxF sI, pRIqm nfl sfzf imlfp hoxF sI, AuhnF guxF nUM asIN iqafigaf hoieaf hY.

Auh gux hn:- sIl, iKmF, dieaf, sMqoK, iqafg, syvf, pRym, BgqI, gurU df ipafr qy vYrfg afid, aslI iswK Auh hY ijhVf afp iehnF guxF nUM Dfrn kry aqy dUsiraF nUM vI ies df AupdyÈ dyvy. swB sMgq jIE, ies ivwc qF koeI Èwk nhIN hY ky iehnF guxF nUM swcmuc Dfrn krn vflf qF smJo ijAuNdy jI hI mr igaf. ikAuN ik dfs bxnF jF sMgq dI ryx hoxF bhuq aOKf hY. jF ieh smJo ky ieh gux Aus ivwc hI af swkdy hn ijhVf ijAuNdy jI mr cukf hovy.

jIvq jo mrY hF ] duqru so qrY hF ] sB kI rynu hoie hF ] inrBAu khAu soie hF ] imty aMdyisaf hF ] sMq Aupdyisaf myry mnf ]ñ] ijsu jn nfm suKu hF ] iqsu inkit n kdy duKu hF ] ôñú m; õ

vIro koeI cfhuMdf hY mrnF ajyhI mOq? kdy vI nhIN. jo afnMd iksy nUM gfhlF kwZ ky jF iksy nUM jlIl krky afAuNdf hY, iehnF guxF ivwc ikwQy. iehnF guxF nUM Dfrn vflf qF smJo afpxyN kMmoN vI igaf, Gridaf dy kMmoN vI igaf, aqy dunIaF dy kMmo vI igaf. (hF Auh pRBU dy kMm df jrUr bn jFdf hY, iPr Aus nUM sdf afnMd hY.) BAu Bgiq kir nIcu sdfey ] qAu nfnk moKMqru pfey ]ò] afpxyN afp nUM nIc khfAuxF bhuq aOKf hY. ies vfsqy ieh gux DfrxyN bhuq aOKy hn, gwlF krnIaF hI sOKIaF hn, dUsiraF nUM AupdyÈ dyxF bhuq sOKf hY. gwlF krn nfl dunIaF dI vfhvf vfhvf qy mfn vizafeI vI KUb iml jFdI hY, aqy guriswK jF gurmuwK df iKqfb vI iml jFdf hY, hor kI cfhIdf hY.

aqy jy khIey jF puwCIey ky mOq qoN bfd kI hovygf? . qF swB dI iewk hI rfey hY, ik mOq qoN bfd koeI nhIN jfxdf ky kI hoxF hY. swB sMgq vIr BYx BfeI nUM bynqI hY ik ies gwl qy jrUr gOr krnF jI, ik Auh gurU df iswK hI kI, jo ieh nF jfxdf hovy ky mOq qoN bfd kI hoxF hY. aqy Ahu gurU hI kI jo iswK df ieh Brm nF kwZ swkdf hovy ky mOq qoN bfd kI hoxF hY, jF ikwQy jf ky smfAuxF hY.

kbIr sfihb jI afpxIN bfxIN ivwc dwsdy hn. Aus gurU dI mF df isr (Jftf) muMn dyvo, jo iswK dy sfry hI Brm nF kwZ swkdf hovy.

kbIr mfie mUMzAu iqh gurU kI jf qy Brmu n jfie ] (ñóöù)

awgy gurU nfnk dyv jI dwsdy hn,

so gurU so isKu kQIaly so vYdu ij jfxY rogI ] iqsu kfrix kMmu n DMDf nfhI DMDY igrhI jogI ] õ] õúó

asl vYd Auh huMdf hY ijhVf rog nUM buJy. iesy hI qrF asl gurU vI Auh hY, aqy asl iswK vI Auh hY, ijhVf ies Byd nUM jfxdf hY. pr asIN aKfAuqI iswK gurU nUM vI bdnfm krI jf rhy hF, ik gurU vI kuwJ nhIN jfxdf.

pr ijhVf asl iswK hY, "iqsu kfrix kMmu n DMDf nfhI DMDY igrhI jogI ] õ]" Auh sfry kMm DMdy krdf hieaf vI mfieaf dy jMjfl ivwc nhIN Psdf, Auh Gr igRhsq ivwc rihMdf hoieaf vI jogI hY. ikAuN ky Auh sfry Byd jfx cuwkf huMdf hY. bfxIN ivwc bfr bfr ieh afAuNdf hY ky aYsf iswK sMsfr ivwc koeI ivrlf hI huMdf hY, koeI kroVF ivcoN iewk hUMdf hY. pr asIN sfry, afpxyN afp nUM kroVIey hI smJdy hF. asIN, JgVf, inMdf, kRoD, eIrKf qy hMkfr afdI guxF nUM gurmwq df aMg bnf ilaf hY. JgVf aqy inMdf krky asIN afpxy afp nUM vzf gurmuwK smJdy hF. asIN ijs nyN cfr ikqfbF pVH leIaF jF cfr lfeInF (ikqfbF) ilK leIaF, Auh afpxyN afp nUM ds kroVIaF smJx lg pYdf hY. mnmuiK pVih qyqf duKu lfgY ivxu siqgur mukiq n hoeI ]ñö] ôóõ,

vIro, asIN gurU nUM jF rwb nUM KzOxF smiJaf hoieaf hY. ies Byd nUM isrP Auh jfx swkdf hY ijs nUM ijAuNdy jI mrn dI jfc hovy. jo mrn qoN bfd hoxF hY Aus nUM ijAuNdy jI mrky dyK lvo, afpy sfrf BlyKf inkl jfvy, sfrf JgVf Kqm ho jfvy. muieaf ijqu Gir jfeIaY iqqu jIvidaf mru mfir ] ijhVf vI ijAuNdy jI mrnF jfxdf hY, Aus vfsqy agy kbIr sfihb jI ilKdy hn, jo jIvn mrnf jfnY ] so pMc sYl suK mfnY ] kbIrY so Dnu pfieaf ] hir Bytq afpu imtfieaf ] bs afpxyN afp nUM imtfAuxF hY, afpxyN afp nUM mfrnF hY. iPr afpxIN awKIN dyK lvo gy, ky mrn qoN bfd kI hoxF hY, aqy ikwQy jfky smfAuxF hY. aqy ieh svfl hI Kqm ho jfvgf.

ijh bfJu n jIaf jfeI ] jAu imlY q Gfl aGfeI ] sd jIvnu Blo khFhI ] ñ] mUey ibnu jIvnu nfhI ]ñ] öõõ

sMgq jIE, iewk hor gwl qy ivcfr krIey. asIN kihMdy hF ky rwb qF sfzy iblkul hI pfs hY. aqy ieh gwl hY vI iblkul swcI. pr! sfzy pfs huMdy hoey vI, sfzy swB dy aMdr huMdy hoie, swB kuwJ vyKdy hoie vI, sfnUM mwq ikAuN nhIN dyNdf. kI Auh ieh kMm nhIN kr swkdf? . asIN kihMdy hF ky mrn qoN bfd koeI nhIN jfxdf ky kI huMdf hY. iesy qrF jy rwb ijAuNidaF sfzy kMm nhIN afAuNdf, qF asIN ieh ikvyN kih skdy hF mrn qoN bfd Auh sfzI shfieqf krygf, ieh asIN ikvyN jfx ilaf? ikqy ieh sfzf aMD ivÈvfs qF nhIN?

sMgq jIE, iewk gwl hor, ik iksy ds sfl dy bwcy sfhmxyN asIN koeI mfVf krm krn qoN iJjkdy hF, ky bwcf sfnUM dyK irhf hY. pr Auh pRmfqmF jo swB jghf mOËUd hY, aqy hr vyly sfnUM dyK irhf hY, nF qF sfnUM hI Aus df zr hY. aqy nF hI Auh sfnUM mfVy kMm qoN rokdf hY. jid ky koeI afm iensfn vI iksy nUM kuwJ mfVf krdy dyKy, qF Auh jrUr khy gf ik nF BfeI ieh mfVf kMm hY ies qrF nF kro. ajyhf ikAuN? . kI JgVf krn dI bjfie ajyhIaF gwlF qy vI ivcfr nhIN krnF cfhIdf? . sMgq jIE sfnUM JgVy qoN bcnF cfhIdf hY.

khu kbIr jn Bey Kflsy pRym Bgiq ijh jfnI ]ô] ijnHF nyN pRym BgqI jfxIN hY, Auh aslI Kflsy hn. gfhlF kwZxF, iksy nUM jlIl krnF, iksy nUM zrfAuxF DmkfAuNxF, Kflsy df kMm nhIN hY.

aglI kVI ivwc kbIr sfihb jI sfzy vrgy lokF dI gwl dwsdy hn. kihMdy hn, aYsy lokF nUM kI khIey, ijhVy nF qF hrI df jws sux swkdy hn, nF gf skdy hn. pr gwlF nfl asmfn Zfa idMdy hn. pRBU nyN ajyhy lokF nUM BgqI qoN bfhj kIqf hoieaf hY, kbIr sfihb jI nyN ajyhy lokF qoN zrn dI qfVnF kIqI hY. pr Kflsf nF qF iksy qoN zrdf hY aqy nF hI iksy nUM zrfAuNdf hY.

hir jsu sunih n hir gun gfvih ] bfqn hI asmfnu igrfvih ]ñ] aYsy logn isAu ikaf khIaY ] jo pRB kIey Bgiq qy bfhj iqn qy sdf zrfny rhIaY ]ñ] rhfAu ]óóò

agly Èbd ivwc gurU rfmdfs jI, sfzy vrigaF dI hflq ibafn krdy hn.

mÚ ô ] siqgur puriK ij mfiraf BRim BRimaf Gru Coiz gieaf ] Esu ipCY vjY PkVI muhu kflf afgY Bieaf ] Esu arlu brlu muhhu inklY inq JgU sutdf muaf ] ikaf hovY iksY hI dY kIqY jF Duir ikrqu Es df eyho jyhf pieaf ] ijQY Ehu jfie iqQY Ehu JUTf kUVu boly iksY n BfvY ] vyKhu BfeI vizafeI hir sMqhu suafmI apuny kI jYsf koeI krY qYsf koeI pfvY ] eyhu bRhm bIcfru hovY dir sfcY ago dy jnu nfnku afiK suxfvY ] ò]

eyhu bRhm bIcfru hovY dir sfcY ago dy jnu nfnku afiK suxfvY ] ò] ieh ivcfr cOQy gurU nfnk, kih rhy hn. ies nUM mMnxF jF kwtxF sfzy afpxyN vws hY. gurbfxIN gurU dy muwKoN inkilaf hoieaf hukm hY, jy asIN ies nUM rwddy hF qF kI asIN iswK khfAux dy lfiek hF? .

sMgq jIE do kU gwlF afqmF dI scfeI vfsqy vI

Drm rfie no hukmu hY bih scf Drmu bIcfir ] dUjY Bfie dustu afqmf Ehu qyrI srkfr ] (óóñ)

AUpr vflI ies kVI qoN do gwlF sfP jfhr hn. pihlI ik koeI Drmrfj hY. aqy Aus nUM pRBU ny afp ibTfieaf hY. Aus nUM pRBU df hukm hY, ky qUM swco swc inaF krnF hY. Drm df inaF krnF hY.

dUsrI gwl ieh spwÈt huMdI hY, ik afqmF vI hY. ieQy ieh vI jfhr huMdf hY, ik afqmF do qrF dI huMdI hY. BlI afqmF, aqy duÈt afqmF. hux BlI aqmF qy duÈt afqmF asIN iks nUM khF gy? . jfhr hY ik ieh iksy Bly aqy duÈt purÈ vwl hI ieÈfrf hY. qF kI afdmI afqmF nF hoieaf?

AUprlI kVI qoN Ëfhr hY ky Drmrfj nUM ieh aiDkfr hY, ik jo vI duÈt afqmF hY, Bfv duÈt purÈ hY. Auh Drmrfj dy aDIn hY, Auh Drm rfj dy afpxyN knUn ivwc hY. aqy BlI afqmF pRBU dI ipafrI hY, Aus qy Drmrfj df koeI knMUn lfgU nhIN huMdf, blik Drm rfj Aus BlI afqmF dI syvf krdf hY. ijvyN bfxIN ivwc jo keI QfeIN iliKaf hY bkrI dI rfKI Èyr krdf hY, gAU nUM isMG crfAux jfdf hY. ajyhIaF hor vI keI AuDfrnF hn gurbfxIN ivc, qusF swB nyN hI bfxIN ivwc pVHIaF hoeIaF hn. Drm rfj hI Auh Èyr hY, ijhVf gurU df hukm mMn ky gurU dy iswK dI syvf krdf hY.

ieQy mYN do gwlF hor spwÈt krnF cfhuMdf hF, iewk hY swc Drm df inaF, dUjI hY, dieaf.

AUpr vflI gurbfxIN vflI kVI qoN sfP jfhr hY, ik Drmrfj kol swc df inaF hY. swc df inaF kI huMdf hY? swc df inaF Auh huMdf, ijs nUM iql iql df lyKf kihMdy hn. jy iksy df ies ivwc jrf vI jF iql Br vI ilhfj kIqf igaf qF iPr ieh swc df inaF qF nhIN nF rih jFdf. so swB nUM iql iql df lyKf dyxF pvygf. aqy s: jsbIr isMG jI dI iql iql pIVn vflI gwl iblkul TIk hY, swc hY. kIqy hoey krmF df, pfpF df ihsfb dyx vfsqy kohlU ivcoN lMGxf hI pYxF hY, iksy nyN vI bfeIpfs nhIN jfx dyxF. ijhVf kihMdf hY nhIN, Auh gurU nfnk dI gwl kwt irhf hY.

dUsrI gwl hY dieaf! Drmrfj dy pfs dieaf nhIN hY. dieaf df aiDkfr isrP hrI dy pfs hY, aqy jF swiqgurU dy pfs hY. hrI vI iswDI hI dieaf nhIN kr swkdf, Aus nUM vI gurU dy ivcoN dI ho ky dieaf krnIN pYNdI hY, pr gurU jo cfhy so kr swkdf hY.

so swc df inaF vI koeI cMgI cIj nhIN hY, dieaf aqy iKmF df dfn hI cMgf hY jo isrP siqgurU dy pfs hY.

bynqI:- vIr jsvMq isMG jIE quhfzy ivcfr bhuq hI awCy hn, jo qusF iliKaf hY. ky ilKfrIaF nUM sKq Èbd nhIN vrqnyN cfhIdy. qhfzIaF sfrIaF hI gwlF TIk hn. sfnUM swB nUM iehnF gwlF df iKafl rwKxF cfhIdf hY. BYx pRIq kOr jI Kflsf bfry jo qusF iliKaf hY ky AuhnF nyN sfzy nfm ilKdy smyN iksy dy vI nfm dy nfl isMG Èwbd nhIN lgfieaf, vI TIk hox dy nfl nfl, keI kfrn vI qF ho skdy hn. ijvyN ky CoitaF nUM sMboDn krdy smyN keI vfrIN asIN pUry nfm df iesqymfl nhIN krdy. dUsrf ieh ky, qusIN vI dyK hI rhy ho s: gurcrn isMG jI nfl AuhnF dI nrfjgI, ho swkdf hY ies kfrn vI sfnUM swB nUM brfbr sMboDn krn vfsqy vI AuhnF nyN ies qrF kIqf hovy. ikAuN ky Kflsf iksy nfl vI ivqkrf nhIN kr swkdf. glqI vfsqy zFt jrUr swkdf hY. vIr jI mYnUM qF ies ivwc koeI ieqrfj nhIN. mYnUM qF pRIq kOr Kflsf kdy vwzI BYx lwgdI hY, kdy vwzI byby, aqy kdy cflI mukiqaf vflI mfeI Bfgo. jo sfnUM sfzI glqI qy, aqy gurU qoN muK moVn qy zFt rhI hY, .

dfs bldyv isMG

iProËpur

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(06/10/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Moderator S. Makhan Singh jee (Canada),

 Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

In respect of "Pischlaa and Aglaa Janam, 84 Lukh Joonaa, Re-incarnation, Heaven and Hell, etc", there are several Articles on this Website: www.sikhmarg.com

Instead of cornering the person, who may have different opinion, it would be much appreciated if we try to discuss one or two complete Shabds at one time and then take up other similar Shabds rather than picking up one one line. Gurbaani should not be considered like a Soccer Match ! At the same time, we should avoid animosity towards others because we all are learners and no one is perfect.

If someone has latest information, please do share about the current position of the departed souls in respect of -

1) President Gurcharan Singh Tohra, 2) Yogi Harbhajan Singh, 3) Giani Sant Singh Maskeen, 4) Baba Thakur Singh, 5) Baba Virsa Singh, 6) Nihung Ajit Singh Poohla, 7) Any other well-known person !

Thanks for your selfless services.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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jsvMq isMG

Satikaaryog Makhan Singh jee atey pathak jano,Waheguru jee kaa khalsa Waheguru jee kee fateh,

Sikh marg day iss kalam nu parran naal menu atey merey vergay hoor sajjana nu gursikhee sabandhi bahut jankaaree mildee hai, iss vich koee shaq naheen ke kaee vaari kafee sakhat shabad vertey jandhey hann jinah dee bajaay halkey shabad vertey jaa sakday hann, par kai vaar lafaz dhukda hee oho jiha hundha hai, phir vee main taan bentee karda haan key pyaar waley shabad vertan dee koshish karnee chaheedee hai.

BIBI KHALSA JEE huran vee jo likhia uss vich vee pyaar atey samaan dee ghat parteet hundee hai kionkey jiss vee likhari dee likhat tey uhnaa itraaz keeta kisey day naam naal Singh laun dee uhanan jrurat mehsoos naheen keetey halan uhanan day naam naal Khalsa lagya hai, gustaakhi muaaf....ih aam vekhan, parran atey aapsee ahmon sahmnee vichaar charcha sunnan vich mehsoos keeta jandha hai key bhaven assi apney guru. dharam atey kaum paratee kitney vee suhirdh hoeai par sadey vich mithaas dee bahut ghaat hai, ih khaas kerke uhnan veeran vich jo key guru day falsfey noo ghar ghar phuchaan dee koshish vich hann kionkey pyaar naal lagey laiaa jaa sakda hai par kharvapan utnaa kargar naheen hundha,vichaar gochra hai jee.

Dasam granth vichon jo veer Gurcharan singh jee huran pathkan noo jo jankari ditti meraa honsla naheen key maon aapnee patnee noo vee parr key suna sakan uh aapnee jankaree vastey parr lavey tan hoor gall hai, parantoo mai ih sooch key hairaan haan key isnoo baani kehkey parcharan aapney aap noo us guru day sikh kistran akhvaunday hann jisnnay saanoo apnee patnee ton bagair sabh noo maan bahain samjan daa updesh ditta hai.

Aatma barey ik veer jee nay jo doctor sahib dee laykhnee noo pathkan sahmnay lyaandan hai, uss naal shanka muka jaana chaheeda hai

Akheer vich S.Makhan Singh jee dee parsansa keetey bagair naheen reh sakda jo kitnee mehnat naal iss page update karday hann tay jay kisey noo hor thaan naa miley taan usda vee nazla sahinday hann, per veer jee akalpurakh aap nu chardee kala vich rakhey taan key aap sikh panth dee iston vee vadh kay sewa larday raho, kisey tarann day wadh ghatt vastey muaafi daa jachak haan ji.

Gursikhee dee chardee kalaa chaunda hoiaa guru panth daa daas.

Jaswant singh

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pRIq kOr Kflsf

pRIq kOr Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

mwKx isMG jI. qusIN mflk ho. asIN quhfzI iewjq krdIaF hF. pr Qozf ieh iliKaf sfnUM psMd nhIN afieaf ik afvfgvx, jUnF, afqmf aqy krm qoN asIN iksy nqIjy qy nhIN phuMcy hF. qusIN BfvyN iksy nqIjy qy nf phuMcy hovy pr QozI ieh vYb sfeIt sdkf asIN jrUr ies nqIjy qy phuMcy hF ky ieh sB kuwJ hY aOr gurbfxI ies nUM Tok vjf ky hmfieq krdI hY. ieh sB kuwJ bldyv, qrlocn, mihMdr aqy jsbIr aqy myrI BYx rfxI kOr dIaF ilKqF qoN spÈt ho cuikaf hY. ijhVy pMj ds bMdy ies nUM nhIN mMndy (gurcrn, Gwgf, gurqyj, guirMdr, srvjIq, avqfr afid) ieh afpxI ijd qy aVy rihxgy pr ieh spÈt hY ik ieh qrlocn, jsbIr, rfxI kOr aqy mihMdr dy svflF dy Auqr nhIN dy sky. jdoN qrlocn dy svflF dy Auqr nf afey qF ienHF ivcoN kuwJ ny Aus nUM gflF kZ ky bfhr kr idqf, pr jsbIr nUM gflF kZx df hoNslF AunHF ivwc nhIN hY. srvjIq ny hux afqmf nUM cyqnf rUp ivwc mMnxf ÈurU kr idqf hY, ieh vI iewk aÈcrj Gtnf hY.

gurqyj leI.

vfih Auh isMGf, qUM ikho ijhf isMG hYN ijs nUM svfl krn df hI nhIN pqf. ieh svfl kr irhf hY jsbIr nUM ik Auh dsy ky gurU sfihbfn ikhVI jUn ivwc hn. sdky jfvF gurqyj qoN, ijhVf gurU sfihbfn nUM jUnF ivwc pf irhf hY. ao isMGf jUnf ivwc pvFgy asI, ijhVy mfieaf ivwc Ps ky glq kMm kr rhy hF sfzy gurU ikAuN jUnF ivwc pYx. jrf soc ilaf kr ilKx qoN pihlF. hF jsbIr ikvyN dsUgf, Auh ieh qF ds skdf hY ik ieh sB kuwJ hY jUnf hn afvfgox hY pr jsbIr koeI gurU pIr pYgMbr qF nhIN ijsnUM idb idRÈtI hfsl hoeI hoeI hY. mMngy qyry svfl krn qoN.

pRIq kOr

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jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

s: gurcrn isMG jI (ijAuxvflf) aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

s: gurcrn isMG jI! ‘aglf jnm-ipClf jnm’ sMbMDI afpxI ivcfr cwl rhI sI. mYN gurbfxI coN kuwJ qukF pyÈ kIqIaF sI ijnHF bfry mYN quhfzy koloN kuwJ svfl puwCy sI pr quhfzy vwloN koeI jvfb nhIN afieaf. pihlF qF mYN soicaf ik Èfied quhfzy kol Pursq nf hovy ies leI qusIN jvfb nhIN dy sky. pr mYN dyiKaf hY ik qusIN hor sfiraF dy pwqrF dy jvfb dy rhy ho isrP myry pwqr df jvfb nhIN dy rhy. myry koloN koeI ÊusqfÉI ho geI hovy qF dwsxf mYN muafPI mMg lvFgf. gurcrn isMG jI quhfzy muqfbk gurmq krmF, jUnF afqmf nUM nhIN mMndI aqy gurbfxI ivwc iehnF dI koeI mfnqf nhIN hY. krm, jUnF aqy afqmF sMbMDI gurbfxI ivwcoN kuwJ AudfhrxF mYN afpxy 03-10-08 dy pwqr ivwc Sikhmarg. Com qy iehnF bfry gurbfxI ivwcoN kuwJ AudfhrxF pyÈ kIqIaF hn jy AunHF bfry afpxy ivcfr dy skoN qF imhrbfnI hovygI. vIr jI! mYnUM quhfzy jvfb df ieMqËfr hY jI. Bul cuk leI muafPI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.

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srvjIq isMG

afqmf

(zf: gurÈrnjIq isMG dI ikqfb ‘guru gRMQ sfihb: prMprf aqy ieiqhfs’ ivwc ‘afqmf’ bfry jo iliKaf hoieaf hY mY Aus nUM tfeIp krky iswK mfrg dy pfTkF dI isrP aqy isrP jfxkfrI leI Byj irhF hf. ies nfl iksy df sihmwq hoxf jF nf hoxf jrUrI nhI hY. srvjIq isMG)

vydFq mq qoN pRBfivq mq ivÈvfs krdy hn ik mnuwK do cIËF df puqlf hY-ÈrIr aqy afqmf. afqmf bfry afm Dfrxf ieh hY ik ieh idsdI nhIN aqy iesdf invfs dsm duafr, ihrdy jF mn ivwc hY.

hlFik mn df invfs ikwQy hY, ieh vI iksy nUM pqf nhI? keI mn aqy afqmf nUM iewk hI cIj mMndy hn. ihrdf qF sfzy ÈrIr nUM KUn dyx vflf iewk pMp hY. qF iPr afqmf df itkfxf dsm duafr hI rih skdf hY. eIsfeI mq ivwc dYvI-afqmf (spirit) df skMlp vydFiqk afqmf qoN iblkul iBMn hY. iswK gurbfxI dI smJ nf hox krky, afqmf bfry vydFq vfly hI ivcfrF dy DfrnI hn.

ijs qrHF dI afqmf nUM vydFq ny mMinaf hY, Aus ivwc buD mq, jYn mq, eIsfeIaq aqy ieslfm df koeI ivÈvfs nhIN. ilKx qoN Bfv ieh hY ik afqmf koeI ivÈvivafpk ivÈvfs nhI aqy nf hI ies nUM mMnxf Drm leI koeI ËrUrI Èrq hI hY. ivigafnk Xuwg ivwc afqmf nUM prMprf anusfr mMnx df koeI aDfr nhIN. hF, gurbfxI ny ijs arQ ivwc afqmf dI gwl kIqI hY, Auh pRcilq muhfvrf qF hY hI, sgo iesnUM mnuKI cyqnf dy arQ ivwc hI ilaf hY. ies nUM aMgryjI ivwc Self vI ikhf hY. ieh cyqnf hI mnuwK df jIvn aDfr hY, ies cyqnf ibnF mnuwK nhIN rih skdf. mnuwK dI ies cyqnf ivwc asIm ÈkqI hY, ijs duafrf Auh sDfrx mnuwK qoN prm-mnuwK jF dyvqf vI bx skdf hY. mnuwK afpxy jIvn ivwc iesy cyqnf krky Aucy qoN Aucy AuTx leI Xqn krdf rihMdf hY. ieh mnuwK nUM pRgqIÈIl bxfANudf hY. ieh cyqnqf sfnUM jIvn Br afpxy jIvn-mnorQ nUM pRfpq krn leI inrMqr pRyrnf idMdI rihMdI hY. ies nUM ‘joq srUp’ aqy ‘prmfqmf dI aMs’ iesy krky ikhf hY ik ieh inrMqr asIm nUM pRfpq krn dI koiÈÈ ivwc rihMdI hY.

swcy igafn qoN ibnF mnuwK Éud nUM ÈrIr mMn ky hI, Jurdf rihMdf hY. ÈrIr nfÈmfn hY, ÈrIr rogI ho skdf hY, ÈrIr sImq hY. jo ÈrIrk sqh Aupr jIAUNdy hn Auh suafrQI, huAumY gRsq aqy ivkfrF dy iÈkfr ho ky, afpxf jIvn hfr bYTdy hn. aYsy mnuwK nUM hI gurbfxI mnmuK kihMdI hY. ies qoN Ault gurmuK Aus nUM ikhf hY ik jo hAumY dI QF hukm ivwc ijAUNdf hY, Auh suafrQ dI QF srbwq dy Bly leI ijAUNdf hY, Auh afpxy aMdr CupI asIm ÈkqI dI pCfx krky, aYsy kfrnfmy kr jFdf hY ik afAux vflIaF nslF AusnUM Xfd krdIaF rihMdIaF hn. Auh ÈrIrk bMDn qoN mukq ho ky sB leI ijAux df mnorQ bxf ky, srbivafpk ho jFdf hY. AusnUM amrqf dI pdvI pRfpq ho jFdI hY. (guru gRMQ sfihb: prMprf aqy ieiqhfs pMnf 28)

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gurqyj isMG inAUËIlYNz

jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI) jIE,

quhfzy sfry gurbfxI hvfly qy qukF leI DMnvfd ikAuNik AunHF sfirafN df asl kyNdrI Bfv hI jUnF qy krm-kFzF dy gDI-gyV dy brÉlfP hY. pr ikAuNjo ieh quhfzI hI gurmq dy Ault injI Dfrnf hY ik jUnF qy krm-kFz huMdy hn qF iPr suafl df juafb dyxf qF quhfzf bxdf hY. so, gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwcoN hI hvflf dy ky ieh dwso ik awj dy idn sfzy gurU sfihbfn ikhVIafN jUnF ivwc iPr rhy hn?

gurqyj isMG

vYilMgtn-inAUËIlYNz

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pRIq kOr Kflsf (KflsI) aqy sfQxF

pRIq kOr KflsI (KflsI Èbd gurcrn anusfr)

siq sRI akfl]

gurcrn qUM sfnUM icTI ilKx leI mjbUr kr irhf hYN.

vfih Auh gurcrn

qUM cMgf bMdf hYN, socdf hovyNgf ik asIN quhfnUM afpxI Poto ByjIey qF ik qUM dUjIaF vYb-sfeItF qy sfnUM (ivcfry qrlocn vFgUM ijvyN Aus nUM qUM bdnfm kIqf sI) jlIl kr skyN.

qYnUM aYnf vI nhIN pqf ik Kflsf isrP Kflsf hI huMdf hY Aus Auqy jfq pfq iesqrI jF mrd afid lfgU nhIN huMdf. vfh beI vfh, inkilaf hYN nfnk dyv jI df inrml pMQ df pRcfr krn qy Kflsf dy guxf df hI nhIN pqf? kI qUM qIvIaF nUM KflsI ilKyNgf. ds jrf.

gurcrn dsIN jy mYN qyrI skI DI BYx huMdI qF kI qUM iesy qrHf mYNnUM icTI ilKxI sI?

mYN qyro qoN dsm gRMQ bfry kuwJ nhIN sI puiCaf qUM ikAuN sfzy sfhmxy … … … …[ [ … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … …[ [

kl qUM hor lKF kroVF sfietF qy ijhVf nMgyj qy aÈlIl mYtr hY Auh vI isK mfrg qy pfeyNgf qy khyNgf ik mYN ieh gMd ies leI quhfnUM ivKf irhf hF qF ik asIN ienHF nUM Kqm krn dI ijMmyvfrI leIey.

qUM aqy gurqyj ny ajy qk qrlocn aqy jsbIr dy svflF dy Auqr nhIN idqy.

gurqyj ijhVf nYiqk glHF dI gl krdf hY qF Auh afp ikMnf ku nYiqk hY ieh Aus dIaF ilKqF qoN pqf lgdf hY. ies ny hI nYiqkqf ivKFdy hoey Aus pRoPYsr nUM pfgl ikhf sI ijhVf iewk mhInf icTIaF ilKdf irhf. Auh mYN ikvyN Bul skdI hF. Kq BfvyN iesqrI df hY jF mrd df, qYnUM ies nfl kI mqlB? . Auqr dy, jy dy skdf hYN qF TIk, vfDU ilKx dI loV nhIN.

pRIq kOr KflsI qy Aus dIaF shylIaF KflsIaF

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jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

s: gurqyj isMG jI (inAUËIlYNz) aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

s: gurqyj isMG jI! bIbI pRIq kOr jI Kflsf aqy sfQxf dy (jfalI?) pwqr dy sMbMD ivwc qusIN iliKaf hY: "afqmf, jUnF, krm afid sMqF dy zyiraF df hlvf mFzf hY. …[ so kmËor iensfn hmyÈF hI afqmf, jUnF, krm afid dy gDI gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY. DMn DMn hn gurU gRMQ sfihb jI jo sfnUM nYiqkqf dy rfh pfAuNdy hn qF jo asIN kmËor mfniskqf dy gDI gyV ivwcoN inkl ky swc dy gfzI rfh Auqy bbyk buwD nfl qur skIey.

s: gurqyj isMG jI! mYN gurbfxI coN kuwJ qukF pyÈ kr irhf hF, jrf dwsxf ik ienHF ivwc afqmf, jUnF, krmF df iËkr hY jF nhIN.

afqmf:

"kfieaf hMs sMjogu myl imlfieaf]" (pMnf- 136).

"kfieaf kmlI hMsu ieafxf myrI myrI krq ibhfxIaf]" (pMnf-156).

"kfieaf hMs ikaf pRIiq hY ij pieaf hI Ciz jfie]" (pMnf- 510).

"hMsu cilaf kfieaf kumlfnI]" (pMnf- 792).

"hMsu clsI zUmxf aih qnu ZyrI QIsI]" (pMnf-794).

vIr gurqyj isMG jI! ienHF qukF ivwc kfieaf arQfq srIr aqy hMs df iËkr afieaf hY. ikrpf krky dwso gy ik iewQy hMs df kI mqlb hY?

"afpInHy Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf]" (pMnf- 464). iewQy BAuru df kI mqlb hY?

"iehu srIr sBu Drm hY ijsu aMdir scy kI ivwc joiq] (pMnf- 309). srIr dy aMdr jo joq hY ies df kI mqlb hY?

acrj kQf mhf anUp] pRfqmf pfrbRhm kf rUp] rhfAu] nf iehu bUZf nf iehu bflf] nf iesu duKu nhI jm jflf] nf iehu ibnsY nf iehu jfie] afid jugfdI rihaf smfie] nf iesu Ausnu] nhI ies sIqu] nf iesu dusmnu nf iesu mIq] nf iesu hrKu nhI iesu sogu] sBu ikCu iesu kf iehu krnY jogu] nf iesu bfpu nhI iesu mfieaf] iehu aprMpru hoqf afieaf] pfp puMn kf iesu lypu nf lfgY] Gt Gt aMqir sd hI jfgY] (pMnf- 868). iewQy pRfqmf df kI arQ hY? aqy ies dy guxF vwl vI iDafn dyxf jI.

krm:

suK duK pUrb jnm ky kIey so jfxY ijin dfqY dIey] iks kAu dos dyih qU pRfxI shu afpxf kIaf krfrf hy]" (pMnf- 1030).

"mqu ko jfxY jfie agY pfiesI] jyhy krm kmfie qyhf hoiesI]" (pMnf- 730)

"krmf Aupir inbVY jy locY sB koie]" (pMnf-157).

"pRfnI kfhy kAu loiB lfgy rqn jnmu Koieaf]

pUrb jnim krim Buim bIj nfhI boieaf] (pMnf- 481).

"jyhf bIjY so luxY krmf sMdVf Kyq]" (pMnf-134)

"krm DrqI srIr jug aMqir jo bovY so Kfiq]" (pMnf-78).

"ikrq krm ky ivCuVy kir ikrpf mylhu rfm]" (pMnf-118).

kI ienHF AudfhrxF dy huMidaF lwgdf hY ik gurmq krmF nUM nhIN mMndI?

jy ipCly jnm dy krmF df koeI ihsfb nhIN huMdf qF prmfqmf ny aYsIaF jUnF ikAuN pYdf kIqIaF jo sfrI Aumr duK hI BogdIaF hn? keI jIv aYsy hn jo ivÈtf aMdr jMmdy hn aqy ivÈtf aMdr hI mr jFdy hn. iks jurm dI sjf Bugqx leI prmfqmf ny aYsIaF jUnF pYdf kIqIaF? iks jurm dI sjf krky hornF jUnF nUM mnuwK dI pinhfrI bxfieaf?

"Audm krih anyk hir nfm n gfvhI] Brmih join asMK mir jnmih afvhI] psU pMKI sYl qrvr gxq kCU n afvey] bIj bovis Bog Bogih kIaf afpxf pfvey]" (pMnf-705).

"asQfvr jMgm kIt ptMgf] aink jnm kIey bhu rMgf] aYsy Gr hm bhuqu bsfey] jb hm rfm grB hoie afey] jogI jqI qpI bRhmcfrI] kbhU rfjf CqRpiq kbhU ByKfrI]" (pMnf-326).

kI ienHF AudfhrxF dy huMidaF lgdf hY ik gurmq jUnF dy cwkr nUM nhIN mMndI? gurbfxI mnuK nUM nYiqkqf dy rfh pfAuNdI hY, pr sfry ivakqI qF nYiqk gux nhIN apnfAuNdy. gurbfxI ivwc nYiqk aqy anYiqk guxF vfly ivakqIaF nUM gurmuK aqy mnmuK dwisaf hY. kI qusIN gurbfxI coN koeI vI Audfhrx dy skdy ho ijs ivwc iliKaf hovy ik koeI gurmuK hovy jF mnmuK mrn ipwCoN iksy ivakqI nUM koeI jnm mrn df/jUnF df gyV nhIN huMdf.

Bul cuk leI muafÌI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

pRIq kOr Kflsf qy sfQxF vwl iewk Kq.

sR[ mwKx isMG jI gur Pqih bulfeI pRvfn krnI jI.

lokF dI pRvfh nf krdy hoey jo quhfnUM lwgdf hY krdy jfE. jdoN lokF nUM gurmiq dI smJ hI nhIN qF AunHF dI ikaF ikaF suxn dI vI loV nhIN. jy gurU nfnk lokF dI suxdy qF Auh afpxy rsqy qy qur hI nf skdy ikAuNik bRfhmx qF pihlf roVf sI jo rsqf rok ky KV igaf sI. dUjf roVf sn bfbf jI dy afpxy mfqf ipqf qy qIjf roVf AunHF dy afpxy mihl qy bwcy. pr bfbf jI afpxI mMËly mksUd nUM smRpq sn ies krky Auh afpxf PYslf afp krky cwl pey qy ieho hI quhfnUM krnf cfhIdf hY.

suKdyv isMG ÈrnrQI/isiKafrQI aqy sfQI/ pRIq kOr Kflsf aqy sfQxF. cor corI krdf krdf ikqy nf ikqy pYV ËrUr Cwz jFdf hY. icwTIaF dy isrlyK ikqny imldy juldy hn. ies krky sR[ gurqyj isMG inAUjIlYNz df Pqvf TIk hY ik ieh icwTI jfhlI lwgdI hY.

"mYN aqy myrIaF hor sfQxF kfPI dyr qoN iswK mfrg qy Cwpx vflI smgrI pVHdIaF af rhIaF hF. kfPI igafn vI hfsl kIqf hY. kdI ies ivwc Èfml hox bfry nhIN sI soicaf. pr awj jdoN hwd ho rhI hY qF mUMh Koly bgYr Kflsf rih nhIN skdf".

"Kflsf rih nhIN skdf" ies nUM ilKx vflf koeI purÈ hY aOrqF nhIN.

ijhVy lok imafrI ilpI df rOlf pf rhy hn AunHF ny kdI vI smfj df Blf nhIN kIqf.

sR[ avqfr isMG jI XU[ ky[ vfilaF AudfhrxF TIk hI qF idqIaF hn. jy gurU nfnk sfihb ieh ilKdy hn ik, "imTqu nIvI nfnkf gux cMigafeIaf qqu]" qF dUjy pfsy ieh vI ilKdy hn ik, "kuqy cMdnu lfeIaY, BI so kuqI Dfqu] aqy mUrK gMZu pvY muih mfr"] iswK mfrg dy pfTk jno ijnHF proPYsrF qy zfktrF ny aMdr bYTky qnKfhF lYxIaF hn, AunHF ny bfhr kuwJ nhIN krnf, Auh eyhI rOlf pfAuNdy afm vyKy jf skdy hn ik bolI imafrI nhIN. ijnHf ny kuwJ krnf hY Auh awgy idqIaF AudfhrxF vFgr hI krdy hn.

hux jdoN afpF gMdI BfÈf dI gwl hI krn lwgy hF qF ieh dwso ik iksy bUbny sfD dy kiChiraF df gMd prKxf iknHF ku mfVf hY? gMd qF Doqf nhUMaF ivcoN inkl hI jfvygf qy mYN gMd prKxf bMd kr dyvFgf. kI tksflIey qy rxDIr isMGIey awgy ilKy gMd nUM ‘dsm gRMQ’ ivcoN kwZ pfAuxgy. ies kMjr kivqf dy kuwJ ku pMny nhIN hn sgoN 809 qoN lY ky 1428+ 8 pMny aQ asPotk kibq ilKXqy vfly pMinaf ivcoN pMj pMny jPrnfmy vfly kwZ lE qF 622 pMny aysy hn ijnHF nNUM koeI vI mfeI df lfl afpxy Zr afpxI DI BYx kol nhIN pVH skdf jfxI ky kok ÈfÈqr nflo vI bYVf hY qy vNgI mfqr pRIq kOr Kflsf jI pVH jrUr lYxf vYsy qf bfkI dy dsm gRMQ ivwc vI koeI isiKaf vflI gwl nhIN:

kI iehI sI Auh ‘bfxI’ jo gurU goibMd isMG jI ny rcI?

dmdmI tksfl, kuwJ inhMg jwQybMdIaF, akfl qKq dy qy hor pujfrIaF qy gRMQIaF ny 11 qoN 13 nvMbr 2006 dy idn aKOqI dsm gRMQ nUM gurU goibMd isMG sfihb dI ilKq dws ky ipMz idafl purf (biTMzf) `c gurU gRMQ sfihb dy quwl pRkfÈ krky aKMz pfT krn df Gor apmfn jnk kMm kIqf hY.

ieh gurU gRMQ sfihb aqy gurU goibMd isMG sfihb dI Gor byadbI hY. ieh rfÈtr soiem syvk sMG (afr[ aYs[ aYs[) vloN rfm avqfr, ikRÈn avqfr, cObIs avqfr nUM gurbfxI kih ky gurU sfihb nUM rfm qy ikRÈn df pujfrI bxfAux dI sfijÈ df ihsf hY. kokÈfÈqr qoN vI aslIl ilKq nUM gurU sfihb dI bfxI (gurbfxI) afKxf; gurU goibMd isMG sfihb dI ies qoN vI vwzI byadbI hor kI ho skdI hY. ieh Èrmnfk, GtIaf hrkq koeI swcf iswK brdfÈq nhI kr skdf. sfnUM iKmF kIqf jfey, asIN hyTF Aus aÈlIl kivqf dy kuwJ nmUny pyÈ kr rhy hF jo mF puwq, BYx Brf, bfp bytI iml ky nhIN sux skdy, nf pVH skdy hn. pr ikAuNik gurmiq qoN Btky hoey lok, ies gRMQ nUM gurU dI bfxI kih rhy hn, ies leI asIN ies dI vMngI afp nUM ivKf rhy hF. qusIN pVH ky dwso, kI gurU df apmfn krn df qy iswKI nUM pwQr Xug df Drm sfbq krn df ies qoN mfVf ZMg vI koeI ho skdf hY?

kI ies aÈlIlqf nUM gurbfxI kihx vfly iswK hn?

kI ies nUM gurU dI bfxI kihxf, gurU dI byadbI nhI hY?

kI ies ‘gRMQ’ awgy iswKF nUM mwQf tykx leI ikhf jf skdf hY?

kI ies ‘gRMQ’ dI hyT vrxq isiKaf awj dy iswK df mfrg-drÈn krygI?

kI gurU goibMd isMG sfihb df ies qoN vwD apmfn krn df koeI hor ZMg nhI sI bicaf?

kI ies aÈlIlqf nUM gurU grMQ sfihb dy qul pRkfÈ krnf gurU grMQ sfihb dI Gor byadbI nhIN hY?

kI ies aÈlIlqf nUM gurU grMQ sfihb dy qul pRkfÈ krnf iswK rihq mirXfdf dI iswDI AulMGxf nhIN hY?

iqRaf cirqR (dsm gRMQ df vwzf ihsf) qF ieho jyhI kfm-kRIVf nfl Biraf ipaf hY ijnHF ivwc dUjy dI pqnI Bogxf, BYx-DI nfl Bog krnf, KUb nÈy krnf qy kql krnf qy hor mhF pfp qy jurm krny isKfieaf igaf hY. ieh mfmUlI ijhIaF vMngIaF hn.

qyj asqurf eyk mMgfXo] inj kr gihkY rfv clfXo]

qF kI mUMiz JFit sB zfrI] dYkY hsI cMclf qfrI] icRqr 190]" dsm gRMQ pMnf 1082]

(arQ: Aus ny iewk qyj Ausqrf mMgvfieaf. rfv ny Aus nUM afpxy hwQIN PV ky afp clfieaf. Aus jnfnI dIaF sfrIaF JUaF muMn idwqIaF. ieh vyK ky Auh cMcl nfrI bVI hwsI qy KuÈ hoeI.)

qum midrf pIivhu Gno, hmY ipafvhu BMg. cfr pihr ko mfinXo, Bog iqhfry sMg. dsm gRMQ pMnf 832]

(arQ: qUM cMgf dfrU pI qy mYnUM BMg ipaf. mYN 12 GMty qyry nfl Bog krFgf.)

iek idn BFg imqR qy leI. posq sihq aPIm cVHeI.

bhu rq krI, nf bIrj igrfeI. aFT pihr lg kuafr bjfeI] dsm gRMQ pMnf 1280]

(arQ: iewk idn iksy dosq qoN BMg leI, posq qy aPIm vI KfDI. bhuq Bog kIqf, vIrj nf suitaf. ieMj 24 GMty kuafrI nfl Bog kIqf.)

Bg mY ilMg dIE rfjf jb. ruic AupjI qrunI ky qb.

lpit lpit afsn qr geI. cuMbn krq Bup ky BeI. dsm gRMQ pMnf 1358]

(arQ: jd rfjy ny afpxf ilMg Aus dy gupq aMg ivwc vfiVaf qF Aus nU bVf anMd afieaf. Auh Aus nfl Gut Gut ky jwPIaF pfAux lwg pfeI qy vfr vfr cuMmIaF lYx lwg peI.)

pRQm bfr jb Dwkf lgfXo. qb rfnI lY Dol bjfXo.

jb iqh ilMg su Bg qy kfZf. iqRXf Dol Dmwkf gfZf. dsm gRMQ pMnf1342]

(arQ: jd pRymI ny Gwsy mfry qF rfxI ny Zol vjfieaf. jd Aus ny afpxf ilMg Aus dy gupq aMg coN kwiZaf qF Aus ny KUb zol Zmwkf vjfieaf.)

inRp ko pkir Bujn ilE. gudf Bog qf isAu bhu ikXo] dsm gRMQ pMnf 1010]

(arQ: Aus ny pwtF qoN PV ky Aus nfl ipCly pfisAuN bhuq icr Bog kIqf, XfnI muMzy bfjI kIqI.)

lpit plit qfso kuafir riq mfnI ruic mfin. BRfq Bgin ky Byd ko skq nf Bxo pCfn. dsm gRMQ pMnf 1119]

(arQ: Aus nfl jwPIaF pf pf ky Bog kr ky bhuq mËf ilaf. Brf ny BYx-Brf df irÈqf vI nf pCfixaf.)

Bog jfr ablf ikXo. BFiq Bfiq qf ko suK idXo.

AuCl AuCl riq aiDk kmfeI. mUrK Bfr bfq nih pfeI] dsm gRMQ pMnf 1064]

(arQ: mihbUb ny Aus kuVI nfl Bog kIqf qy qrHF qrHF df mËf idwqf. Auh vI AuCl AuCl ky mËf idMdI rhI. Aus dy mUrK Bft pqI nUM pqf vI nf lwg sikaf.)

afsn aOr ailMgn cuMbn Bfiq Anyk lIey suKdfeI.

Xo iqh kucfn mroir su Bor lgu Jk Jor bjfeI] dsm gRMQ pMnf 1049]

(arQ: keI qrHF dy afsn kIqy, jwPIaF qy cuMmIaF nfl qrHF qrHF df suK idwqf. Aus dIaf CfqIaF mroVIaF qy svyr hox qk Aus nfl Bog krdf irhf.)

XO suin bcn qyj mn BXo] kr mih kfiZ Curf kh lXo] ktXo ilMg bsqR qy inkfrf] rfj qrin dy muK pr mfrf] 9] dsm gRMQ pMnf 1215]

(arQ: ieh gl sux ky Aus df mn kroD dI awg nfl qwqf ho igaf. Aus ny hwQ ivwc Curf PV ilaf. iPr Aus ny iewk kwitaf hoieaf ilMg kpVy ivcoN bfhr kwiZaf qy Ausny iesqrI dy mUMh qy miraf.)

ijhVy lok, Drm df colf pf ky ies ‘gRMQ’ nUM gurU dI ‘bfxI’ kih ky gurU df Gor apmfn kr rhy hn qy iswK Drm nUM pwQr Xug df Drm sfbq krn dI koiÈÈ kr rhy hn, kI Auh iswKI dy doKI nhI? jy hn qF soco, AunHF nfl ikvyN inptxf cfhIdf hY?

ijs iksy ny vI pRIq kOr Kflsf vflI ieh icwTI ilKI hY kI Auh ieh smJf skdf hY ik iswK Drm df jUnF, afqmf, svrg-nrk, Drm rfie aqy Ausdy do kuiqaF (ijnHF dy nfm Èrmf hn) aqy krmF nfl kI sbMid hY jdoN ik ies swB-kfsy dI kfZ clfk pMizq ny kwZI hY qy ieh sfrf kuwJ ihMdU Drm df aMg hY.

iswK Drm gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) dy ivcfrF df Drm nhIN. iswK Drm ‘gurU gRMQ’ ivcly ivcfrF df Drm hY.

sR[ mwKx isMG jI jdoN JUT qy AusfrI dukfn igrn lwgdI hY qF JUTy lokIN ievyN hI krdy hn ijvyN sR[ suKdyv isMG ÈrnfrQI krdy hn. ieh tksflIey qy rxDIr isMGIey lok sfnUM afpxIaF styËF qy bolx nhIN idMdy. pRo ieMdr isMG Gwgf kYnyzf afey qy asIN iewQy iewk sYmInfr aXoijq kIqf pr ienHF JUT dy pihrydfrF ny dbfE pfky rYstorFt dy mflk nUM hI mukrf idwqf. kI ieh iswKI hY? awj ieh lok aqy syvf isMG qrmflIey aYzimntn `c pRo[ gurbcn isMG jI QfeIlYNz vfilaF nUM bolx nhIN dyxf cfhuMdy. pr isMG sBf ieMtrnYÈnl dy mYNbrF dI igxqI kfPI ijafdf hox krky ienHF dI AuQy koeI pyÈ nhIN cwlI.

bfkI hor lok ijhVy quhfzy nfl imafrI bolI dI gwl krdy hn AunHF nUM ieh puwCo ik iswK Drm dI cVHdI klf vfsqy AunHF kuwJ kIqf hY qF AunHF df iswDf-sfdf jvfb ieh hovygf ik jI asIN kI kr skdy hF. ieh qF prmfqmf dI ikRpf nfl hI ho skdf hY. iPr AunHF nUM ieh puCo ik beI prmfqmf ny sfKÈfq afp afky qF kuwJ krnf hI nhIN qF AunHF df jvfb isPr (0) hovygf.

srdfr jI gwzy cIkdy qy AuWT arVfAuNdy hI lwdy jFdy hn. iswKI `c inKfr afAuxf hI ievyN hY.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.

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(02/10/08)
iekvfk isMG pwtI

ÃÄ vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih]

siqkfrXog s[ mwKx isMG jIAu!

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih]

swB qoN pihlF qF afp jI df qih idloN DMnvfd hY ik afp jI afpxI smrwQf anusfr iswK Drm dy pRcfr-pRsfr ivwc bhuq hI vwzI aqy aihm BUimkf inBfa rhy ho aqy asIN ardfs krdy hF ik pRmfqmf afp jI nUM cVHdI klf, qMdrusqI aqy lMmI Aumr bKiÈÈ kry qF ik afp jI qwq gurmiq df pRcfr aqy gurU nfnk sfihb jI dy aflmgIrI isDFqF nUM lokfeI qwk phuMcfAuNdy rho. ijs kfrx krky afp jI nUM pwqr ilK irhF hF Auh ieh ik afp jI jdoN vI ikqy afpxI sMpfdkI ivwc ieh gwl ilK dyNdy ho ik "jF qF iPr iswK mfrg nuM awpzyt krnf hI bMd kr dyeIey" qF ieh gwl idl dy Dur aMdr qwk vfr krdI hY. jdoN vI afp jI ajyhI gwl krdy ho qF Aus df muwK kfrx kOm dy mhfn iswK ivdvfnF vwloN vrqI jFdI sKq aqy kwtV ÈbdfvlI hI huMdf hY. ies ivwc koeI Èwk nhIN ik ajyhI ÈbdfvlI nfl dUjy lokF qy sfzf mfVf aks qF ËrUr pYdf hovygf.

ies leI afp jI nUM koeI hwl kwZxf cfhIdf hY nfik sfeIt nUM awpzyt nf krn dI gwl krnI cfhIdI hY. nfl hI ivdvfn swjxF nUM vI bynqI krdf hF ik dyKo s[ mwKx isMG jI afpxf kImqI smF kwZ ky sfzIaF sfrIaF ilKqF ijs qrHF dIaF vI hox ibnHF iksy CyV-CfV dy inrpwK ho ky pfAuNdy hn qF sfnUM QoVf ijhf socxf cfhIdf hY ik AuhnF dI ipCly lMmy smyN qoN kIqI jf rhI Gflxf ivwc koeI rok nf afvy. aqy afpxI ijMmyvfrI qoN kMm leIey. mYnUM koeI hwk nhIN ik afp jI vrgy vwzI Aumr aqy myry qoN ikqy isafxy, sMjIdf ivdvfn swjxF nUM slfh dyvF. ieh qF isrP iewk bynqI kr irhf hF ik afpF kOm nUM awgy iljfvxF hY nfik iewko jgHF Klfr ky rwKxf hY. ies leI rl iml ky pMQ bcfeIey. ikAuNik mYN qF koeI ivdvfn jF vDIaf lyKk nhIN hF pr afp jI dIaF ilKqF ivwc gurU nfnk dI iswKI dI KuÈbU huMdI hY ies leI afp jI inmrqf Dfrx krky sfry kMm kro jI.

bfkI s[ mwKx isMG jIAu! vYsy afp jI dfsry qoN Aumr ivwc vI bhuwq vwzy, sUJvfn aqy isafxy ho aqy ivdvfn ho afp jI ËrUr koeI hwl kwZ lvogy. ies qrHF vI ho skdf hY ik afp jI lyKkF leI koeI ivDI-ivDfn iqafr kr lvo ijs ivwc lyKk aqy ivdvfn afpxy sMjm dI pUrI vrqoN krx aqy inmrqf dI imsfl dyx. ieMnIaF hI bynqIaF kridaF afp jI koloN muafPI mMgdf hF. Buwl glqI leI iKmf df jfck hF.

dfsrf: -iekvfk isMG pwtI

mo[ 098150-24920

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(01/10/08)
gurqyj isMG, inAUËIlYNz

ipafry mwKx isMG jIE

pRIq kOr Kflsf qy sfQxF dI icwTI BfvyN jfalI ijhI hY, pr nukqf nMbr 4 bfry kuwJ kihxf ËrUr bxdf hY.

afqmf, jUnF, krm afid sMq-sfDF qy zyirafN df hlvf mFzf hY. Drm dI ËrUrq nYiqkqf leI hY nf ik cor bx ky puils qoN zrx vflI mfniskqf dI. iswKI nYiqkqf dy rfh pfAuNdI hY. sMq-sfDF qy zyirafN vfilafN nUM zr hY ik jy sfry nYiqkqf dy rfh qur pey qF AunHF df hlvf mFzf Kuws jvygf. so kmËor iensfn hmyÈF hI afqmf, jUnF, krm afid dy gDI gyV ivwc pey rihxgy ijvyN koeI cor jurm dy gDI gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY. DMn DMn hn gurU gRMQ sfihb jI jo sfnUM nYiqkqf dy rfh pfAuNdy hn qF jo asIN kmËor mfniskqf dy gDI gyV ivwcoN inkl ky swc dy gfzI rfh AuWqy bbyk buwD nfl qur skIey.

dUjI gwl, suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI dI icwTI Cfpx leI DMnvfd. vfikaf hI ieh icwTI pVH ky ieMÖ lwgdf hY ik aijhI isiKafrQI soc hI iswKF dy srbnfs dI bhuq hI ZukvIN imsfl hY?

gurqyj isMG

vYilMgtn-inAUËIlYNz

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(01/10/08)
avqfr isMG XU: ky:

Bibi Preet Kaur Khalsa's writing dated 30.09.2008. deserves attention. I personally believe that the comments about Man Singh Pehova and Harnam Singh Dhumma by Gurcharan Singh are not his personal entirely. We have read and are reading so much about these two men in daily news papers published in Punjab and abroad. If we can read and digest the writings in the so called "Dasam Granth" then there should not be problem about Gurcharan Singh's writing who feels and bears the pain being inflicted by anti-sikh forces. Nanak says "Mithat neenween Nanaka gun changiaian tut". Nanak also said "Raje sheenh muqaddam kute". The truth is not always sweet. If we can address the issues honestly with a learning spirit then there should not be any problem and controversy.Infiltration of anti-sikh forces under the banner of sikhi is the main purpose to distract the sikhs from real issue of learning.

I read with interest the missive dated 26.09.2008 by Richipal Singh about" Awagaon" it could be very helpful to those who are keen and genuine learners. I am a learner and strongly believe that there is no Awagaon in Gurmat. We can discuss it in the light of Gurmat We are bound to differ as we come from different background and learning.We have been trained to believe in Awagaon ,the theory preached and practiced by Hindu philosophy.

Regards. Avtar Singh.

UK.

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(30/09/08)
pRIq kOr Kflsf aqy sfQxF

pRIq kOr Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

mYN aqy myrIaF hor sfQxF kfPI dyr qoN iswK mfrg qy Cwpx vflI smgrI pVHdIaF af rhIaF hF. kfPI igafn vI hfsl kIqf hY. kdI ies ivwc Èfml hox bfry nhIN sI soicaf. pr aj jdoN hwd ho rhI hY qF mUMh Koly bgYr Kflsf rih nhIN skdf.

(1) muafP krnf, mwKx isMG jI pihlf svfl quhfzy leI:

qusI iswK mfrg dy mflk ho, qusIN ikvyN shfr rhy ho ik koeI jo mrjI gMd ilKdf rhy qy qusIN cup rho. gurcrn isMG df iliKaf ieh gMd pVHo:

qusIN swB qoN pihlf afpxy -- cMgI qrHf dyKo. kI ienHF ivcoN sfD mfn isMG pyhovy vfly dy --- inkl igaf hY? iPr dyKo hux quhfzy --- sMq bfbf hrnfm isMG DuMmf, jo iewk smilMgI purÈ hY qy sfbkf aYm[ pI[ aiqMdrpfl isMG df ibafn rojfnf spoiksmYn ivwc Cwp cuikaf hY qy bfbf jI ny iesdf KMzn nhIN kIqf, -----

qusIN sfnUM isiKaf idqI hY aqy asIN hux dsm gRMQ dI qIaf cirqr dI bfxI nUM nhIN svIkfrdy ikAuNik Aus dI kuJ-ku bfxI sfzIaF BYxF sfhmxy pVHn vflI nhIN hY. kI ieh gurcrn isMG df gMd myry vrgIaF hor BYxF dy sfhmxy pVHn vflf hY ikRpf krky vYb-sfeIt dI sMgq ies df jvfb dyvy.

suKdyv isMG bfr bfr kih rhy hn ik AunHF ny Gwgy nUM kuwJ nhIN iliKaf. nklI imÈnrIaF nUM AunHF ny kuwJ iliKaf hY. jy Auh nklI imÈnrIaF dy nfm nhIN lYxf cfhuMdy qF nf shI (ho skdf hY ik AunHF dI kuwJ mjbUrI hovy) AunHF nUM gMd ilK ky gurcrn ikAuN jlIl kr irhf hY?

(2) kI gurcrn df igafn hI sB qoN Aupr hY, ieh sMgq jvfb dyvy

(3) jo vI afpxy ivcfr dyNdf hY, jy Auh ivcfr gurcrn jF Gwgy dy anusfr hox qF TIk, nhIN qF ieQy hor ivcfr dyx vfly nUM gflF kwZ ky ieQoN Bjfieaf jFdf hY. ijvyN ik ies qoN pihlF vI ieho kuwJ vfpr cuwkf hY.

(4) gurcrn, Gwgy, gurqyj, brfV horIN afqmf nUM nhIN mMndy, jUnF nUM nhIN mMndy, krmF nUM nhIN mMndy qy iPr Drm nUM mMn ky Auh kI isD krnf cfhuMdy hn. AunHF nUM iPr Drm dI loV kI hY?

(5) pihlF qrlocn ny iPr jsbIr isMG kYlgrI vfilaF ny gurbfxI dy ikMny hI hvfly idqy hn, ieh bMdf gurcrn (aqy ies vrgy keI hor) Aus gurbfxI nUM hI nhIN mMn rhy ijs gur-Èbd dI tyk hyT ieh vYb-sfeIt cl rhI hY

(6) bldyv isMG dIaF vwzIaF vwzIaF aqy bVIaF vwDIaf icTIaF ies vYbsfeIt qy nfm ismrx bfry aqy dsm duafr bfry hn, AunHF nUM pVH ky gurcrn qUM kuwJ nhIN isiKaf?

(7) jsbIr isMG kYlgrI vfilaF df jvfb qUM nhIN idqf.

(8) iksy nUM BUqF pRyqF bfry puiCaf sI, suKmnI sfihb dy hvfly nfl. Aus df vI Auqr dy.

asI sfrIaF bynqI krdIaF hF, hwQ joV ik, ikRpf krky gurbfxI nUM qoV moV ky nvyN arQ nf bxfE. gurbfxI nUM smJo. idl ivwc vsfvy. gMd qy kUVf kbfV nfl ieh iswK mfrg nUM dfgI nf bxfE. sfzI ieh pihlI qy afKrI icTI hY.

vfDf Gftf iliKaf igaf hovy qF axjfx bwcIaF smJ ky muafP kr dyxf.

sfzy leI imafrI ilKo qF ju asIN KuÈI nfl pVIey.

(sMpfdkI not:- asIN ‘iswK mfrg’ qy hr iek nUM dUsry pRqI cMgI sLbdfvlI vrqx bfry keI vfrI not ilK cuwky hF. hux iPr asIN sB nUM bynqI krdy hF aqy nfl hI pfTkF qoN suJfE mMg rhy hF ik sfnUM kI krnf cfhIdf hY? kI asIN GtIaf sLbdfvlI bdl idaf krIey, Auh lfeInf kwt idaf krIey aqy jF iPr asIN ‘iswK mfrg’ nUM awpzyt krnf hI bMd kr dyeIey? do idn pihlF 28 sqMbr nUM mYN vYnkUvr iek bhuq hI sulJy hoey gurmuK ipafry nfl gwlF kr irhf sI qF Aus ny vI mfVI sLbdfvlI qy kfPI ieqrfjL kIqf sI. Aus df kihxf sI ik afm lok jo ik iksy vI DVy nfl nhIN hn aqy Auh isrP gurmiq dI jfxkfrI lYxf cfhuMdy hn. Auh pVH ky iehI mihsUs krngy ik jy kr afhI iswKI aqy gurmiq hY qF ies nfloN qF asIN AudF hI cMgy hF)

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(30/09/08)
amnjIq isMG igwl

suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI jI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf,

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

ikAuN qusIN afpxf sfrf jor iewk hYizMg qy hI lfeI jf rhy ho jy qusIN QoVf jor Aus ikqfb nUM pVn qy lf lvoN qF cMgf hovygf qy quhfnUM pqf lwg jfvygf ik iswKF df srbnfÈ iewk hYizMg nfl ho irhf hY jF ikvyN ho irhf hY. ikRpf krky afp s[ gursLrn isMG ksyl, srvjIq isMG, gurcrn isMG brYNptn huxf dy svflF dy iswDy-iswDy jvfb dyvo aYvyN hvf c qIr nf mfro.

srvjIq isMG ny quhfnUM pUry hYizMg dy nfl-nfl ikqfb ivcly lyKF dy hYizMg vI dwsy sn pr iPr quhfnUM ikqfb dy 'ikvyN kIqf jf irhY … … …[ [ ? ' vFgU idKfeI hI nhI idwqy, ikRpf krky ieh lyK pVo qy iPr dwso ik ikqfb df hYizMg iks qrF; iswKF df srbnfÈ' cfhuMdf hY jF krdf hY. quhfnUM gurÈrn isMG ksyl huxf ny vI iewk lyK dI dws pfeI sI 'klru Kyq lY kUVu jmfieaf' jy ho sky qF pV lYxf. aYvyN hYizMg pV ky hI nf PYsly dyeI jfE.

amnjIq isMG igwl

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(28/09/08)
gursLrn isMG ksyl

sR: suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQIE,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

qusIN mYNnUM iliKaf hY ik mYN quhfzI icwTI nUM smJ nhIN sikaf? vIr jI, ieh quhfzI hux vflI icwTI hY, "myrI icTI nUM qusIN nhIN smJy bVI hYrfnI ho rhI hY. mYN afpxI iksy vI icTI ivwc nhIN iliKaf ky Gwgf iksy qoN mfVHf jF cMgf hY. mYN nklI imÈnrIaF nUM iliKaf hY hF jy qusIN Gwgy nUM nklI imÈnrI smJdy ho qF ies ivwc myrf koeI ksUr nhIN. Gwgy dy hYizMg qy ieqrfË kIqf sI Auh mYN hux vI kr irhf hF. isKF df srbnfÈ krn vfly df … … … … … … … …. Gto Gt hYizMg ilKx dI jfc qF hoxI cfhIdI hY aqy Auho ijhy nUM ijs nUM iswK mfrK qy coKI jgHf mlI hoeI hY."

aqy ieh rhI 23-9 vflI quhfzI icwTI, "ieMdr isMG Gwgy vrgy vI hn ijnHF df lyK df hYizMg isKF leI byhwd duKdfeI hY ‘nfm ismrx- iewk gorK DMdf’ ijs nfm ismrx bfry gurU gMQ sfihb jI dy hr pMny qy aMikq hY Ausy nfm ismrx df Auh hYizMg bxf rhy hn ‘gorK-DMdf’ ies afrtIkl ivwc BfvyN Auh kuwJ mrjI ilKx pr Auh hYizMg pVH ky hI idl duKI ho jFdf hY. mMndy hF ik zyry vfly ies df njfieË Pfiedf AuTf rhy hn. pr ies df ieh mqlB nhIN ky qusIN nfm ismrn nUM gorK DMdf kihxf ÈurU kr idE. iewk ikqfb AunHF ilKI ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’

ieh iewk aijhf ivdvfn hY ijhVf hmyÈf isKI dy Ault hYizMg lfAuNdf hY. ikho ijhf hYizMg ieh hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’ asIN isKF dI cVdIklf dI ardfs krdy nhIN Qkdy Auh ieh hYizMg lgf irhf hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’. kmfl hY koeI vI isK ies leI ikMqU pRMqU nhIN krdf."

mYN sfry iswK mfrg dy pfTkF nUM bynqI krdf hF ik Auh ies icwTI nUM pVHn dI Kycl krn qy dwsx ik ies icwTI df kI mqlb inkldf hY. jy mYN sR: suKdyv isMG qy sfQIafN dI ilKI icwTI nUM smJx ivwc glqI kIqI hY qF mYN sfry iswK mfrg dy siqkfr Xog pfTkF qy vIr suKdyv isMG qy sQIafN qoN mfPI mMgdf hF. iesdy nfl hI iswK mfrg dy sUJvfn pfTkF qoN mMg krdf hF ik jo ivakqI iksy qy JUTf ieljfm lfAuNdf hY AusdI sjf kI hoxI cfhIdI hY; ieh vI dwsx?

pr vIr suKdyv iswG jI, qusIN iksy aijhy imÈnrI df nfm qF dwsogy hI ijs dy kukrm vyKky qusIN aKOqI imÈnrIafN nUM ‘pUhly’ dI izgrI idwqI hY?

swc qusIN AuhnF gurmiq aqy gurU sfihbfn ivroDI krm krn vfilafN nUM qF koeI AupfDI idwqI hI nhIN? kI gwl?

qusIN iliKaf hY, "mYN ikQy ivcrdf hF ikQy rihMdf hF quhfnUM ies nfl korI mqlB nhIN hoxf cfhIdf. AudF quhfzI jfxkfrI leI ds idaF ik gurU nfnk dyv jI vI TwgF aqy hMkfry hoey lokF ivwc ivcry sn qF ik AunHF nUM swc df rsqf ivKfieaf jf sky qF iPr AunHF nUM qsIN kI khogy?"

vIr jI, mYN kdoN iliKaf hY ik qusIN ieQy jfE jF ieQy nf jfvo? mYN qF iliKaf hY ik qusIN aijhy lokF ivwc ivcrdy rihMdy ho ies krky qusIN AuhnF vwloN kIqy qy pRcfry jFdy gurmiq ivroDI kMmF nUM myry nfloN vwD jfxdy ho. mYN kox huMdf hF quhfnUM jF iksy hor nUM rokx vflf. bfkI rhI gurU nfnk pfqÈfh jI dI gwl? Auh qF jy swjx Twg kol gey jF iksy hor mfVy ivcfrF vfly Èks kol gey sn qF gurU jI AusnUM suDfrn vfsqy gey sn aqy Auhnf ny Aus Twg nUM Twg vI ikhf hY; ieh gwl qF qusIN mMndy ho jF nhIN? jy qusIN aijhy lokF nUM swc df rsqf ivKf rhy ho qF bhuq cMgI gwl hY.

hux Gwgf hurF qy lfey "isKF df srbnfÈ" ies ieljfm bfry kI ivcfr hY?

siqkfr sihq,

gursLrn isMG ksyl

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(28/09/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

sR[ suKdyv isMG ÈrnfrQI jI.

vfih gurU jI kf Kflsf vfih gurU jI kI Pqih.

ilKx qoN pihlf kuwJ soc ËrUr ilaf kro. pUhly vfly inhMg qoN pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf ikvyN mfVf hY? pUhly vfly inhMg ny quhfzy ielfky `c keI mnuwKI jIv ijAuNdy sfVy, jvfn lVkIaF cuwkIaF, blfqkfr kIqf qy bfad ivwc mfr idwqIaF. kI quhfzy kol koeI vI aYsf sbUq hY jo ieh swB kuwJ sfbq krdf hovy ky Gwgf jI vI iehI kuwJ krdy hn? nhIN qF qusIN iksy vI isr iPry nfloN Gwt nhIN.

qusIN swB qoN pihlf afpxy -- cMgI qrHf dyKo. kI ienHF ivcoN sfD mfn isMG pyhovy --- inkl igaf hY? iPr dyKo hux quhfzy ---sMq bfbf hrnfm isMG DMumf, jo iewk smilMgI purÈ hY qy sfbkf aYm[ pI[ aiqMdrpfl isMG df ibafn rojfnf spoiksmYn ivwc Cwp cuikaf hY qy bfbf jI ny iesdf KMzn nhIN kIqf, --- ikAuNik afm sDfrx mnuwK kdI vI aYsI idÈfhIx qy aigafnqf BrI ilKq nhIN ilKdf ijs qrHF dI qusIN ilKdy ho. quhfnUM ‘iswK ivrsf’ `c ilKx qoN roikaf igaf. hux qusIN ies qrHF df AUl jlUl iewDr iswK mfrg qy ilKx lwg pey ho. qusIN ieqnI akl dy mflk nhIN ik afpxy afp kuwJ ilK pfE ies krky mYN puwCxf cfhuMdf hF ik quhfzy imrcF dI cUMzI kOx pfAuNdf hY?

suKdyv isMG jI BfeI rxDIr isMG jI ijqnf icr bhfdrF dI kqfr ivwc KVdy hn Auqnf icr Auh jHyl ivwc 14 sfl bfmuÈwkq dI ijMdgI ijAuNdy hn. jdoN hI Auh ‘nfm df KMzf’ KVkfAux leI rËfmMd ho jFdy hn AunHF nUM jHyl ivwc hI afpxI mwJ rwKx dI shUlq iml jFdI hY ijvyN gFDI nUM jHyl ivwc bwkrI rwKx dI ieËfËq imlI hoeI sI. BfeI rxDIr isMG jI afpxI rotI vI afp pkf ky KFdy hn. 1930 qoN 1947 qk 17 sflF ivwc BfeI rxDIr isMG jI ny kdI vI aËfdI df nfhrf mfrn dI ihMmq nhIN kIqI. kI qusIN ieh dwsogy ik iksy vI nfm ismrx vfly ny (ijs qrHF df qusIN nfm ismrn krdy ho, bYT ky cONkVy mfrky vfihgurU vfihgurU krnf) kdI koeI mfrky df kMm kIqf hY? mwsy rMgV df isr vwzx vfilaF, suKF isMG qy mihhqfb isMG, ny kdI vI ies qrHF df nfm nhIN sI jipaf. AunHF ivwc ikhVI ÈkqI kMm kr geI? BfeI suKy qy ijMdy ny vI aMimRq nhIN sI Cwikaf qy vfl vI ktfey hoey sn ijnHF ny pUny `c jnrl vYidaf nUM mfiraf sI. ies qrHF dIaF anykF msflF hn afpxy ieqhfs ivwc ijnHF qoN ieh pqf cwldf hY ik ieh nfm ismrx, ijsnUM pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf gorK DMdf ilKdy hn vfikaf hI lokF nUM mUrK bfxfAux vfsqy socI smJI iewk srkfrI cfl hY. ies srkfrI cfl nUM qusIN gurU sihbfn dI clfeI pRMprf kih ky gurU sihbfn df apmfn vI krdy ho qy lokF dI ho rhI lut nUM jfieË vI Tihrf rhy ho. kuwJ isafxp qoN kMm lE qy ijvyN qusIN pyhovy vfly df sfQ Cwizaf hY TIk Ausy qrHF hI iewDr-AuDr Tyzy Kfxy Cwzo qy koeI bhfdrI df kMm kro.

"vfihgurU gurmMqR hY" suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI tksfl nUM kuwJ svfl.

ieh icwTI quhfnUM jnvrI 2007 `c ilKI geI sI qy awj qk jvfb dI AuzIk `c hF.

iksy mMqR qy jfp nUM iswKI ivwc koeI QF nhI. ikAuN? ikAuNik guru nfnk pfqÈfh dy pRgt hox qoN pihlF pMizq jI jfp qy mMqRF df bhuq pRXog krdy sn. iksy mMqR qy jfp ny jnqf nUM suKI vsx ivwc koeI ÈkqI pRdfn nhI kIqI sgoN 1000 sfl dI gulfmI df sMgl gl ivwc pvf idwqf. pr clfk pMizq, bIrbl qy hor sfQI, iPr rfj drbfr dIaF pAuVIaF cVH ky rfj krn lwgy. awj vI hrIdvfr ivc, iswKF dy mMqR jfpF qy aKMz pfTF nfloN ikqy vwD, jfp qy mMqR pfT huMdy vyKy jf skdy hn. lkÈmI, mfieaf dI dyvI, dI pUjf krn vfly aqy hr roË hËfrF aKMz pfTF df Bog pfAux vfly mulk ivwc jnqf BUK dy duK nfl ikAuN mr rhI hY? iesy krky gurbfxI ivwc mflf dy isDFq df vI KMzn kIqf igaf hY qy nfl dI nfl jfp qy mMqR df vI.

jy koeI mnuwK iewk lPË df jfp jF iksy iewk jF do qukF df mUÜ mMqR df rtn krn lwg jfvygf qF Ausdf bOiDk ivkfs ruk jfvygf. ikAuN? ikAuNik Auh awgy pVHfeI qy gurU Èbd qoN jfxU hox qoN rok idwqf igaf hY. iesy krky iswK rihq mfrXdf ivwc ieh iliKaf hY ik hr iswK hr sfl ivwc iewk sDfrx pfT vIcfr smyq kry. BfrqI iKqy dI gulfmI nUM Kqm krn vfly gurU nfnk pfqÈfh dy iswK sn ijhVy gurU sfihbfn dI bfxI qoN, GoiVaF dIaF kfTIaf qy bYT ky vI, agvfeI lYNdy sn qy AunHF ny hI Bfrq dI ajfdI df drvfËf Koilaf.

suKdyv isMG jI nUM kuwJ aihm svfl:

1. BfeI gurdfs dIaF vfrF dy stIk ivwc BfeI vIr isMG jI 49vIN pAuVI vfr pihlI pMnf 50 qy ilKdy hn ik ies pAuVI bfry iswK ivdvfnF df ÈurU qoN hI vIcfr hY ik ieh 49vIN pAuVI iksy ny ilK ky BfeI gurdfs jI dIaF vfrF ivwc cfV idwqI hY. vIr jI vfrF pVH ky dyK lYxf ‘siqnfm pV mMqR suxfieaf’ BfeI gurdfs jI dIaf vfrF ivwc Gwto Gwt iqMn vfr afAuNdf hY. iesdf mqlb ieh vI nhI ik siqnfm siqnfm hI krI jfeIey. gurbfxI muqfbk iesdf mqlb ieh bxdf hY ik gurU jI ny swc df pRcfr, swc df hokf idwqf.
2. iksy gurU sfihbfn dI ijMdgI ivcoN koeI hvflf idE jI ik gurU jI cONkVf mfr ky nfm jpdy sn? gurU amrdfs jI goiedvfl ivwc afpxy vfl ikwlI nfl bMn ky nfm jpdy sn vflI khfxI JUTI hY. iswK Drm ivwc iËafdf qr khfxIaF joVIaF geIaF hn jo gurbfxI dI kwsvwtI qy priKaF JUTIaF sfbq huMdIaF hn.
3. aTfrvIN sdI dy aMq qk vI koeI hvflf idE ik Plfxy iswK ny nfm jp ky Plfxf kMm iswD kIqf?
4. iksy iswK df hvflf idE ijsdy muK ivcoN dI nfm kMT rfhIN ihrdy ivwc clf igaf hovy qy Aus iswK ny ies ÈkqI nfl jn sDfrx leI koeI cMgf kMm kIqf hovy? syvf isMG qrmflf vfly ies Xog mwq nUM iswKI mUloN hI rwd krdI hY. gurbfxI ivwc anykF slok mOjUd hn.
5. iksy sMq df nfm lE ijhVf quhfzy vrnx kIqy nfm-jhfË ivwc ciVaf hovy? jvfb ilKx qoN pihlF sBrf jI dIaF sMqF dy kOqk cfrON pusqkF ËrUr pVH lYxf.

sR[ suKdyv isMG jI aKbfrF aqy rsfilaF ivwc ËrUr ilKo pr gurmiq muqfbk. gurmiq mnuwKI jfqI nUM ivhlV sfDF dIaF zfrF dy cuMgl qoN aËfd krvfAuNdI hY. gurmiq mnuwK nUM ivhlV nhI sgoN ikRq dy lV lfAuNdI hY. gurmiq mnuwK jfqI dI mnuwK dy hwQoN lut-Ksut nUM rokdI hY. gurmiq mnuwK dy hr pl nUM ivarQ jfx qoN jfxU krvfAuNdI hY. iksy vI ilKq nUM CpvfAux qoN pihlF ienHF gwlF nUM ËrUr iDafn ivwc rwKo jI.

iswK pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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pRo[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn dI ÈMkf nivrqI.

mhfjn jI afpxI iÜKqI lVfeI/crcf hI ies gwl dI hY ik mYN kuwJ hor ilKdf hF qy qusIN kuwJ hor smJdy ho. mYN pMizqF, mhfjnF, mulmfnF aqy ihMdUaF nfl jfqI lVfeI ivz ky nhIN bYTf hoieaf qy nf hI guirMdr isMG brfV. Gony-mony vI sfzy dosq hn qy muslmfn vI. mnuwK pihrfvy krky cMgf nhIN bxdf sgoN cMgy guxF krky cMgf mnuwK bxdf hY qy iehI sfnUM gurbfxI isKfAuNdI hY. quhfzy nfl sfzI ivcfrDfrk lVfeI hY jfqI lVfeI nhIN.

ihMdU Drm dI iewk vI iewt jy kr gurU nfnk sfihb dy mihl nUM lwgfeI jfvy qF ‘inrml pMQu’ vflf isDFq Kqm ho jFdf hY. awj qk gurUbfxI dI ivafiKaf vydFq mwq dIaF aYnkF lf ky kIqI geI jo gurUbfxI nfl Droh hY qy iesy hI msly nUM lY ky sfzI ivcfrDfrk lVfeI cwlI. jy afqmf hY qF lyKf joKf hY. iPr Drm rfie, jmdUq, vYqrnI ndI qy Drm rfie dy dy kuqy (ijnHF df nfm Èrmf hY ihMdU imQhfs koÈ muqfbk), Drm rfie dy bYTx leI svrg qy dUijaf leI nrk afid afid sB kuwJ cfhIdf hY.

nrol gurmiq dI gwl kro sfnUM koeI ieqrfË nhIN. cfhy mhfjn ilKy qy cfhy koeI hor.

gurUbfxI krky iswKF df ivvhfr AuWcf-sucf krn dI gwl kro nf ik BfeIaf koloN lokF dIaF jybF KflI krvfAux dI.

DMnvfd.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

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(28/09/08)
suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

mYN afpxI iksy vI icTI ivwc nhIN iliKaf ky Gwgf iksy qoN mfVHf jF cMgf hY. mYN nklI imÈnrIaF nUM iliKaf hY hF jy qusIN Gwgy nUM nklI imÈnrI smJdy ho qF ies ivwc myrf koeI ksUr nhIN. Gwgy dy hYizMg qy ieqrfË kIqf sI Auh mYN hux vI kr irhf hF. isKF df srbnfÈ krn vfly df … … … … … … … …. Gto Gt hYizMg ilKx dI jfc qF hoxI cfhIdI hY aqy Auho ijhy nUM ijs nUM iswK mfrK qy coKI jgHf mlI hoeI hY.

srvjIq bVf vDIaf kMm kIqf hY. gMdI BfÈf vrq ky.

srvjIq bVI hYrfnI huMdI hY, quhfzf vqIrf ieho ijhf ik koeI afpxy ivcfr vI nf dyvy. mYN isrP hYizMg qy ikMqU kIqf sI. ik cMgf nhIN lgdf. isKF df srbnfÈ kihMdaF. pr gl qusIN hor dI hor bxf leI.

qusIN ilK rhy ho pRo: iedr isMG GwgF jI dI ikqfb df aslI hYizMg hY:

‘ikvyN kIqf jf irhY… isKF df srbnfÈ?

aKOqI ivdvfn jIE, jy quhfnM pVHnf nhI afAudf qF kI quhfzy sfQIaF (suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI) ivwc koeI ajyhf nhI hY jo afp nUM eynI hI mwq dy sky ik ikqfb df nfm kI hY?

sfrI sMgq dy sfhmxy hY ieh hYizMg

pihlI lfeIn nUM Coty PotF ivwc iliKaf igaf hY

ikvyN kIqf jf irhf irhY … … … … …[ [

ieh PoNt sfieË aYnf Cotf hY ik pVH hIN nhIN huMdf

qy iPr dUjI lfeIn vwzy PotF ivwc hY

iswKF df srbnfÈ?

myrI ieqrfË krn dI Bfvnf hY ik iKaFl riKaf jfvy hYizMg ilKx smyN. aj qk koeI pYdf nhIN hoieaf jo isKF df srbnfÈ kr sky. iewk iek isK df muwl vI svf svf lwK hY. soc pfijtv hoxI cfhIdI hY. hYizMg qoN hI lyKk dI Bfvnf Aujfgr huMdI hY.

lgdf hY ik srvjIq nUM ieh hYizMg psMd hY iesy leI Auh mYnUM XblI ilK irhf hY

suKdyv isMG

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(28/09/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor,

Someone has forwarded you with the link as a response to KalaAfghana's one of the articles. Please share that link on your website with all the readers. After reading this article I dont think that this article needs any academic response as the person who has responded to Kalaafghana's article has clearly missed the gist of his (Kalaafghana's) article.

But still from the website it has been posted on I think I should share my own thoughts and experiences.

First I would like to remove the doubts of the author, Bijla Singh, He writes :

"The article by Afghana is clearly attacking the root of Sikhi. According to him, if Kartarpuri Bir was lost then how did the Sikhs reacquire Bani? In other words, he is questioning the Guru Granth Sahib, "

1) Kalaafghana will never question Guru Granth Sahib, even if he is the last person left on this earth.

2) The gist of his article was "Guru Granth Sahib was not bestowed Guruship in 1604 as said by all historians and history books.

3)It became the Guru of Sikhs in October 1708 when Guru Gobind Singh passed the Guruship to the Granth, as we say in the words of Giani Gian Singh 'Aagya Bhai Akal ki Tabe chalayo panth, Sab Sikhan ko Hukam hai Guru Maanyo Granth'.

4)There was only one Guru at a time and not two Gurus.

5)That there was a Granth or collection of writings was a secret that nobody knew except Guru Arjan and succeding Gurus.Guru Arjan kept it a secret, otherwise it would have definitely been destroyed by the enemies of Sikhism. Because Guru Granth Sahib is the most important thing around which Sikhism revolves. Food for thought.

Now some personal experience relevant to such websites and people that I would like to share :

1) This person Bijla Singh is definitely suffering from a serious mental illness that is found only in Sikhs, known as "KalaAfghana Phobia" and "DasamGranth Philia". Here is one of his (Bijla Singh's) articles giving his own twists and turns to the Kanjar Kavita(Pardon my language, and before anyone  says that I am against banning books or writings, let me clarify, I am one of the biggest fans of this so called Granth and really enjoy the erotic writings in it, as any normal human being would do) or so called Dasam Granth. http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/1799/2005-09-25.html

2) As per my personal intuition, this Bijla Singh is either a middle aged man, retired who has turned into what I call "Internet Scholars" or he is in his mid twenties or early thirties still dependent on his parents and need to find a serious job.

3) The website he has posted his so called response is usually visited by people of my age(mid twenties to early thirties) but born and brought up in Western countries.These people are really very serious about Sikhism(the way they have been taught).

4) When I first came to Canada about 4 years back, I joined some forums and even got personally involved with such people, thinking that they are my age, but they are dedicated to Sikhism so much that once while having a discussion where I differed with their opinion of "Naam Abhyas", 3 or 4 turbaned females along with males started challenging me " je hune vi gall karni hai taan Gurudware de bahar aa jaao, assi utthe vi gal kar laange".

5) I even recieved serious threats in emails, At first I felt very excited and thought that I have become some sort of celebrity like Salman Rushdie or Ayaan Hirsi Ali. But then I figured out that its not their fault they have been brought up that way.

6) The purpose of sharing my personal experience with such people and  websites(panthic.org, tapoban.org, sikhsangat.com, searchsikhism.com etc) is to let all the readers know that these youngsters are really serious about their business, they truly believe in the slogan "My Way or HighWay". These people are overgrown kids.They spend their spare time wearing activist T-shirts doing Naam Abhyas, posting on Internet forums numerous times in a single day and most of them need to find some serious jobs. So stay away from these brainwashed kids.

Gurpreet Singh Sumra Brampton, Canada

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Reply to Afghana

There is one short response to Kala Afghana's article: smfDfn gocry kuwJ ÈMky

 at this link:
http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39909&view=findpost&p=372856

Send it to him.

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(27/09/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

vIr srvjIq isMG jI aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih.

vIr srvjIq isMG jI! sB qoN pihlF qF mYN afp jI df bhuq-bhuq DMnvfd krnf cfhuMdf hF ies leI ik afpxy ivcfrF ivwc Ìrk hox dy bfvjUd qusIN ies qrHF dI suKfvIN BfÈf df pRXog kIqf hY ik idl KuÈ ho igaf. jy ikqy hr gurmq pRymI ny ies qrHF dI BfÈf df iesqymfl pihlF kIqf huMdf qF Auh nhIN sI vfprnf jo ipCly idnIN vfpiraf. hr gurmq pRymI nUM cfhIdf hY ik gurmq bfry ivcfr crcf krn lwigaF iesy qrHF BrfvF vflf ipafr bxfeI rwKIey. vIr bldyv isMG jI iProjpur vfilaF ny vI suKfvF mhOl bnOx dI kfPI koiÈÈ kIqI pr aPsos ik ieh ho nf sikaf. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn "gur isKf ieko ipafru gur imqf puqf BfeIaf] jy afpF ipafr vflf mhOl bxfeI rwKF gy qF mYN smJdf hF ik byÈk afpF iksy PYsly qy phuMc skIey jF nF, pr Pyr vI iewk dUjy qoN kuwJ nf kuwJ qF hfsl jrUr hovygf hI. kuwJ nf kuwJ qF iswKx nUM imlygf hI. iswK nyN qF sfrI Aumr kuwJ nf kuwJ iswKdy hI rihxf hY.

vIr jI! qusIN ajrfeIl, Drmrfj, kohlU afid df ijkr kIqf hY. srvjIq isMG jI! Drmrfj aqy ajrfeIl ivwc Ìrk hY vI aqy nhIN vI. jdoN gurU sfihb iksy muslmfn nfl muÉfqb ho ky gwl krdy hn qF ajrfeIl lÌË df iesqymfl krdy hn aqy jdoN iksy bRhmx nfl ivcfr krdy hn qF Drmrfj/ Drmrfie Èbd df iesqymfl krdy hn. muslmfnF anusfr ajrfeIl mOq df Ìirsqf hY jo ik muslmfnF dy imQy hoey ZMg nfl afpxf kMm krdf hY aqy Drmrfj ihMdUaF df imiQaf hoieaf mOq df dyvqf hY jo ik ihMdUaF dy imQy hoey ZMg nfl afpxf kMm krdf hY. gurmq ny donF coN iksy dI vI hoNd nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. iewk gwl hor, Auh ieh ik jy koeI ivakqI ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM mMndf hY Auh Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMn skdf ijhVf ivakqI Drmrfj dI hoNd nUM mMndf hY Auh ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMn skdf. gurU sfihb ny ihMdUaF jF muslmfnF nUM gwl smJfx lwigaF AunHF dI bolI dy lÌË isrÌ sMkyq mfqr leI iesqymfl kIqy hn AunHF nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. gurU sfihb ny iksy dyvI dyvqy dI hoNd nUM sivkfr nhIN kIqf. ijs qrHF ihMdUaF ivwc sMsfr bnfAux vflf, irjk dyx vflf aqy sMsfr nUM Kqm krn vflf vwK vwK dyvqy mMny gey hn. pr gurU sfihb kihMdy hn sB kuwJ Aus pRBU dy Bfxy aqy hukm ivwc ho irhf hy koeI vwK vwK dyvqy sMsfr nUM nhIN clf rhy. gurmq anusfr iensfn dy cMgy mfVy krmF df lyKf krn leI koeI vwK-vwK dyvqy nhIN ibTfey hoey pr Aus dy krmF df lyKf qF huMdf hY. Auh lyKf koeI hor nhIN Auh prmfqmf afp krdf hY. "afpy kMzf afp qrfjI pRiB afpy qoil qolfieaf] (pMnf- 605). "ibnu qkVI qolY sMsfrf gurmuK hovY soeI bUJY gux kih guxI smfvixaf] (pMnf- 110). ijs qrHF gurbfxI ivwc anykF vfrIN `cAurfsIh lwK jUnF’ df ijkr afieaf hY ies df ieh mqlb nhIN ik gurU sfihb cAurfsI lwK jUnF (dI igxqI nUM) mMndy hn. gurbfxI ivwc anykF vfrIN ‘rfm’ lÌË prmfqmf leI afieaf hY. ies df mqlb ieh nhIN ik gurU sfihb dsrQ dy puwqr rfm nUM Bgvfn mMndy hn. gurU sfihbF muqfbk koeI Ìirsqf jF dyvqf bMdy dy krmF dI sjf nhIN idMdf. kIqy krmF anusfr lyKf vI pRBU afp hI krdf hY aqy Aus dy hukm ivwc jIv iesy DrqI qy mfVy krmF (kMmf) krky aYsI QF (iensfn dI jUn ivwc jF hor jIvF dI jUn ivwc) jnm lYNdf hY ik sfrI Aumr duwK Bogdf hY. iesy duK Bogx nUM hI GfxI pIVn ikhf igaf hY, iksy vwKrI imQI hoeI DrqI qy koeI vwKry Drmrfj jF kohlU nhIN lwgy hoey. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn: "Audm krih anyk hir nfmu n gfvhI] Brmih join asMK mir jnmih afvNhI] psU pMKI sYl qrvr gxq kCU n afvey] bIj bovis Boig Bogih kIaf apxf pfvey] rqn jnm hfrMq jUaY pRB afip n BfvhI] ibnvMiq nfnk Brmih BRmfey iKnu eyk itkxu n pfvhI]" (pMnf- 705) (afvNhI= ies DrqI, ies sMsfr qy afAuNdy hn).

"asQfvr jMgm kIt pqMgf] aink jnm kIey bhu rMgf] aYsy Gr hm bhuq bxfey] jb hm rfm grB hoie afey] rhfAu] jogI jqI qpI bRhmcfrI] kbhU rfjf CqRpiq kbhU ByKfrI] sfkq mrih sMq siB jIvih] rfm rsfienu rsnf pIvih] khu kbIr pRB ikrpf kIjY] hfir pry ab pUrf dIjY]" (kbIr pMnf-326).

srvjIq isMG jI! qusIN iliKaf hY "[ [ (kI) afp jI nUM vI ieh svfl nhIN kIqf jf skdf ik jdoN gurU sfihb jI qF ieh kih rhy hn ik ies bfry qF koeI pqf nhIN, qF qusIN iks dlIl nfl kih rhy ho ik aglf jnm jrUr hovygf? jdoN ik bfxI df alfhI Purmfn hY" nfnk ijin krqy kfrxu kIaf so jfxY krqfr]".

srvjIq isMG jI! aglf jnm hox bfry mYN gurbfxI ivwcoN pihlIaF ilKqF ivwc anykF hI AudfhrxF dy cukf hF (iesy pRsquq lyK/pwqr ivwc vI kuwJ Audfhrxf af geIaF hn) bfr bfr AuhI ivcfr duhrfeI jfxy mYN TIk nhIN smJdf. ikrpf krky myry pihlF dy ilKy ivcfr iewk vfrIN Pyr pVH lyxy jI. jy quhfzy kIqy pRÈnF bfry koeI jvfb nf imly qF dwsxf mYN dubfrf ilK idaFgf jI. sbMDq quk "nfnk eyv nf jfpeI ikQy jfie smfih" ivwc afey lÌË ‘ikQy’ nUM jrf iDafn nfl ivcfro jI. ies df Bfv arQ hY ik jIv mrn ipwCoN ‘ikwQy’ jf ky smfeygf (pRBU dI joq ivwc joq rl jfey gI jF anyk jUnF ivwc ipaf rhygf). iewQy afvfgAux hox jF nf hox bfry qF koeI ivcfr hY hI nhIN. ieh sfrI ivcfr mYN awgy dy cukf hF. ijhVf qusIN iliKaf hY "jdoN ik bfxI df alfhI Purmfn hY ‘nfnk ijin krqy kfrx kIaf so jfxy krqfr’ ies bfry vI mYN awgy ivcfr dy cukf hF ik gurU sfihb kihMdy hn ik koeI jIv ikwQy jfky smfeygf ies df kuwJ pqf nhIN ieh Auh prmfqmf hI jfxdf hY.

vIr srvjIq isMG jI! jy afpF cfhuMdy hF ik iksy ivÈy bfry koeI incoV inklxf cfhIdf hY, koeI PYslf hoxf cfhIdf hY qF iksy dUsry dy ivcfr pVHn ligaF afpF nUM afpxy bx cuky ivcfrF nUM pfsy rwK ky inrpwK socxI nfl iksy ilKq nUM pVHnf cfhIdf hY.

vIr jI! ajrfeIl, Drmrfj aqy kohlU afid ivcfrF nUM Cwzky bfkI sfrIaF gwlF bfry ivcfr pihlF ho cukI hY ies leI imhrbfnI krky koeI ivcfr duhrfeI nf jfvy jI.

ijhVf qusIN iliKaf hY ik ies ivÈy nUM bMd krky hor iviÈaF bfry ivcfr ÈurU krnI cfhIdI hY.

vIr jI! hor iviÈaF, ijnHF df qusIN iËkr kIqf hY AuhnF bfry qusIN afpxy ivcfr dy idE nvyN ivÈy afpy hI ÈurU ho jfxgy. jy qusIN myry ies pwqr bfry afpxy ivcfr dyxy cfho qF myry ipCly pwqrF ivwc myry vwloN puwCy gey kuwJ pRÈnF bfry qusIN vI afpxy ivcfr dy skdy ho. jy qusIN afpxy vwloN ieh ivcfr bMd krnIN cfho qF vwKrI gwl hY.

iksy iksm dI vwD-Gt gl ilKI geI hovy qF mYN muafPI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.

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sR: suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk sfQIE,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

myrI klH (26-9-08) vflI icwTI ivwc glqI nfl AupfDI dI QF AupfdI iliKaf igaf sI. so, sfry pfTkF nUM bynqI hY ik icwTI ivwc AupfDI pVHn dI Kycl krn. "Gwgf hurF nUM qF qusIN ‘pUhly’ dI AupfDI idwqI hY hux aijhy iswK aKvfAux vfilaf nUM iks AupfDI (izgrI) nfl invfjogy?"

glqI leI mfP krnf.

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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srvjIq isMG

suKdyv isMG dI iewk hor jbÜI

suKdyv isMG jI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

suKdyv isMG jI, XkIn kirE awj quhfzy nFm nfl isiKafrQI ilKx nUM vwZI rUh nhIN krdI. jdo BfeI avqfr isMG jI ny afpxy pwqr df ieh isrlyK ‘isiKafrQI dIaF jblIaF’ iliKaf sI qF mY socdf sI ik Èbd ‘jblIaF’ qoN ibnF vI sr skdf sI pr awj mY ieh Èbd ilKx leI Kud mjbUr hoieaf hF.

afp ny iliKaf hY, "mYN pihlF vI spstIkrx dy cukf hF ik sMq mfVHf nhIN pr aKOqI sMq mfVHf hY" suKdyv isMG jI afp nUM rMg-brMgy sMqF dI sMgq krn df buhq qjrbf hY kI qusI iksy aYsy ijAudy-jfgdy sMq dy bfry jfxkfrI dy skdy ho jo quhfzy pYmfny anusfr cMgf hovy?

afp nUM Xfd hovygf ik afp ny afpxI ivdvqf df iejhfr krdy hoey iliKaf sI, "ikAuNik aKOqI imÈnrI vI pUhly qoN Gwt nhIN hn." bfr-bfr bynqIaF krn qy afp ny pRo: ieMdr isMG Gwgf df nF iliKaf hY aqy afpxI nPrq df pRgtfvf hyT ilKy Èbdf ivwc kIqf hY, "ieh iewk aijhf ivdvfn hY ijhVf hmyÈf isKI dy Ault hYizMg lfAuNdf hY. ikho ijhf hYizMg ieh hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’ asIN isKF dI cVdIklf dI ardfs krdy nhIN Qkdy Auh ieh hYizMg lgf irhf hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’. kmfl hY koeI vI isK ies leI ikMqU pRMqU nhIN krdf."

suKdyv isMG jI qusIN iewk JUT nUM bol/ilK ky Aus qo sbk isKx jF Aus qy pCqfvf krn krn dI bjfey qusIN hor glq ibafnI kr rhy ho. JUT bolxf jy kr afp dI koeI mjbUrI hY qF Gwto Gwt ieh iKafl qF rwiKaf kro ky Auh do-cfr idn qF nf PV hovy. ajyhy JUT df kI Pfiedf jo mOky qy hI PiVaf jFvy? quhfzf ieh nvF JUT qF quhfzy pwqr nUM pVHdy-pVHdy hI PiVaf igaf sI.

ieh hY aslIaq swc qy pihrf dyx vfilaF dI, "asIN aj vI swc dI soc qy pihrf dy rhy hF aqy idMdy rhFgy." suKdyv isMG jI kI qusI Kud…ho jF iswK mfrg dy pFTkF nUM smJdy ho? jy afp nUM aqy Kfs krky afp dy sfQIaF nUM iksy nfl koeI mwqByd vI hn qF vI ilKx vyly qF swc ilKo. qusI pRo: Gwgy dI ijs ikqfb ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’ df ijkr kIqf hY mY ieh ikqfb pVHnI cfhuMdf hF, kI qusI ieh ikqfb AuplwBd krvf skdy ho? kI qusI ies nUM piVHaf hY? jy nhI qF ieh jbÜIaF iks KuÈI ivc?

pfTkF dI jfxkfrI leI bynqI hY ky suKdyv isMG nfm dy ivakqI ny jo ilKqI rUp ivwc JUT boilaf hY "ieh iewk aijhf ivdvfn hY ijhVf hmyÈf isKI dy Ault hYizMg lfAuNdf hY. ikho ijhf hYizMg ieh hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’."

pRo: iedr isMG GwgF jI dI ikqfb df aslI hYizMg hY:

‘ikvyN kIqf jf irhY… isKF df srbnfÈ?

ies ivwc BUimkf ‘Drm qy rfjnIqI df sbMD’ srdfr jsvMq isMG KflVf jI df lyK hY. KUn dy hMJU, iswKF dI nslGfq, gFDI vloN iswKf nfl DRoh, idwlI ivwc iswKF qy kihr, sMqF dI iswKI-kOm dI qbfhI aqy pMjfb dy pfxIaF qy zfkf vrgy KVHkvyN hYizMgF vflyN 22 lyK hn. pfTkF nUM bynqI hY ky ies nUM pVHn leI hyTly ilMk qy kilk krn dI Kycl jrUr krnI jI.

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ijs ivakqI nUM ikqfb df nFm vI nhI pVnF afAuNdf Auh ivakqI alocnf kr irhf hY! pfTkF nUM Xfd hovygf ies ny pRo: sfihb isMG jI leI iliKaf sI, "ijhVf iensfn mUl mMqr nUM smJ nhIN sikaf". aKOqI ivdvfn jIE, jy quhfnM pVHnf nhI afAudf qF kI quhfzy sfQIaF (suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI) ivwc koeI ajyhf nhI hY jo afp nUM eynI hI mwq dy sky ik ikqfb df nfm kI hY? Gwto Gwt pRo: qrlon isMG mhfjn dI qF lfj rwK lYNdf, Auh qF qyrIaF isPqF krdf nhI Qwkdf ik s: suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI jI nUM myrI gwl smJ af geI hY. Auh vI socdf hoxf ik ikho ijhy ivdvfnf ipCy lwg ky mY afpxf hI Juwgf cOV krvf bYTf. suKdyv isMG jI, qusI iewk hor ivdvfn nUM vI tYlIPUn krky hONslf idwqf sI. (s[ suKdyv isMG jI ny mYnUM byqukI alocnf dI pRvfh nf krn leI vI ikhf…) ivcfrf! iekoy svfl nfl hI bONdl igaf sI.

suKdyv isMG jI, jy afp nUM afpxf nFm CpfAux df jy eynf hI ÈOk hY qF (aKbfrF ivwc pYsy dy ky nfm CpvfAuxf pYNdf hY aqy bYb sfeIt qy muÌq hI Cp jFdf hY) hr hPqy afpxI rfjI KuÈI ilK ky pfTkF nfl Piqh sFJI kr ilaf kro. ies nfl ijQy pfTkF df smF bcygf AuQy hI quhfzf vI ….

srvjIq isMG

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suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

gurÈrn isMG ksyl jI

qusIN isafxy BfeI ho. myrI icTI nUM qusIN nhIN smJy bVI hYrfnI ho rhI hY. mYN afpxI iksy vI icTI ivwc nhIN iliKaf ky Gwgf iksy qoN mfVHf jF cMgf hY. mYN nklI imÈnrIaF nUM iliKaf hY hF jy qusIN Gwgy nUM nklI imÈnrI smJdy ho qF ies ivwc myrf koeI ksUr nhIN. Gwgy dy hYizMg qy ieqrfË kIqf sI Auh mYN hux vI kr irhf hF. isKF df srbnfÈ krn vfly df … … … … … … … …. Gto Gt hYizMg ilKx dI jfc qF hoxI cfhIdI hY aqy Auho ijhy nUM ijs nUM iswK mfrK qy coKI jgHf mlI hoeI hY.

mYN ikQy ivcrdf hF ikQy rihMdf hF quhfnUM ies nfl korI mqlB nhIN hoxf cfhIdf. AudF quhfzI jfxkfrI leI ds idaF ik gurU nfnk dyv jI vI TwgF aqy hMkfry hoey lokF ivwc ivcry sn qF ik AunHF nUM swc df rsqf ivKfieaf jf sky qF iPr AunHF nUM qsIN kI khogy?

suKdyv isMG

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gurÈrn isMG ksyl

sR: suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

vIr jI, afpny afpxI pihlI ilKI icwTI ivwc iliKaf sI ik, "aKOqI imÈnrI pUhly duÈt qoN vI BYVy hn." dy sbUq dyNdy hoey sR. ieMdr isMG Gwgf bfry iliKaf hY ik, "ieMdr isMG Gwgy vrgy vI hn ijnHF df lyK df hYizMg isKF leI byhwd duKdfeI hY ‘nfm ismrx- iewk gorK DMdf’ ijs nfm ismrx bfry gurU gMQ sfihb jI dy hr pMny qy aMikq hY Ausy nfm ismrx df Auh hYizMg bxf rhy hn ‘gorK-DMdf’ ies afrtIkl ivwc BfvyN Auh kuwJ mrjI ilKx pr Auh hYizMg pVH ky hI idl duKI ho jFdf hY. mMndy hF ik zyry vfly ies df njfieË Pfiedf AuTf rhy hn. pr ies df ieh mqlB nhIN ky qusIN nfm ismrn nUM gorK DMdf kihxf ÈurU kr idE. iewk ikqfb AunHF ilKI ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’ ieh iewk aijhf ivdvfn hY ijhVf hmyÈf isKI dy Ault hYizMg lfAuNdf hY. ikho ijhf hYizMg ieh hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’ asIN isKF dI cVdIklf dI ardfs krdy nhIN Qkdy Auh ieh hYizMg lgf irhf hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’. kmfl hY koeI vI isK ies leI ikMqU pRMqU nhIN krdf."

vIr jI, afpny isrP ‘Gwgf’ horF vwloN ilKy lyKF dy isrlyK bfry hI ieqrfj kIqf hY pr lyK qF gurmiq muqfbk hovygf. afpny isrP ies krky hI ‘Gwgf’ hurF dI qulxf ‘pUhly’ nfl kIqI hY. ijhVf keI kqlF, iswK aqy gurmiq ivroDI kfrvfeIafN krdf sI. suixaf hY ik Ausny iewk pRvfr dy sfry jIa mfry sn ijnF ivwc iewk zyZ ku sfl dI bwcI vI sI ijsnUM Aus jflm ny nhIN sI bKiÈaf. qusIN ‘Gwgy’ horF dI qulxf aijhy ÈKsL nfl kIqI hY.

pr afp jI AuhnF sfDF aqy Auhnf dy cyilafN bfry kI khogy ijhVy gurU sfihbfn dy AupdyÈ aqy gurU goibMd isMG jI dy jIvnkfl nUM jfxbuJ ky glq pRcfrdy hn. ijvyN gRuU goibMd isMG jI nUM "dsm gRMQ" rfhIN gMdIafN ilKqF df ilKfrI, dyvI pUjk, gurU qyg bhfdr jI df ihMdU qIrQF qy puwqr dI dfq lYx Kfqr pUjf krnf, ‘pKXfn cirqR’ vrgIafN ilKqF nUM iswKF ivwc pVHn df pRcfr krn vfly, sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb "Èbd gurU" dy brfbr "dsm gRMQ" df pRkfÈ krn vfly, iswK ivroDI guriblfs pfqÈfhI CyvIN dI kQf jF AusnUM pVHn df pRcfr krn vfly, aKMz pfT arMB krn vyly ihMdU Drm dy mMny jFdy dyvqy kuMB, joq, lfl jF icwty kpVy ivwc lpyt ky nfrIal aqy mOlI df Dfgf rwKxf vfly, "Èbd gurU" nUM Bog lfAux vfly, sMgrFd, mwisaf, puMinaf (sUrj-cMd) dy iswKF nUM pujfrI bxfAux vfly, ieÈnfn krky jF hwQ Doky suwcy hox df pRcfr krn, iksy dy hwQ lwgx nfl jUTy ho jfx vfly, iksy aKOqI nIvI jfq vfly aMimDfrI kolo vI dyg nf lYx vfly, suwc-iBwt krn vfly, isrP iksy Kfs DFq dy bxy brqn ivwc Kfxf vfly, afpxI afpxI mnmwq nfl mrXfdf bxfky iswK pMQ nUM KyrU-KyrU krn vfly, afidk bhuq kuwJ hor vI hY jo Èfied qusIN myry nfloN ijafdf jfxdy hovo ikAuNik qusI qF aijhy lokF dy ivwc ivcrdy rihMdy ho.

sR. suKdyv isMG jI, hY nf kmfl dI gwl! quhfzf kdI aijhy krm krn vfilafN aqy afpxy afpnUM iswK aKvfAux vfilaf vwl iDafn hI nhIN igaf? clo KYr! hux dwso, ijhVy lok aijhy gurmiq ivroDI aqy gurU jI dI bdnfmI krn vflIafN ilKqF df pRcfr krn df krm krdy hn Auh ‘Gwgy’ hurF qoN vwD doÈI nhIN hn? Gwgf hurF nUM qF qusIN ‘pUhly’ dI AupfdI idwqI hY hux aijhy iswK aKvfAux vfilaf nUM iks AupfdI (izgrI) nfl invfjogy?

vIr jI, rhI Gwgy hurF dy isrlyK ilKx dI gwl, ieh qF Auh afp hI dws skdy hn ik Auhnf srlyK df nfm ieho ijhy ikAuN rwKy hn.

hF Xfd afieaf, qusIN Gwgy hurF dy iewk hor srlyK bfry qF Buwl hI gey, Auh hY "klru Kyqu lY kUVu jmfieaf" ieh iswK mfrg qoN idl kry qF pVH lYxf jI.

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ircIpfl isMG

I am totally sold to the pankti "manmukh Garab Jooni nit paunda jeeo..." which Gurbachan Singh jee has referenced many thanks to him.
Even though we recite daily in So Dar "Aaakhan Jeevan Visray mar Jao.", also "Att sundar, kuleen, chatur, mukh gyani dhanwant, mirtak kaheeyae nanaka jae preet nahi Bhagwant", sukhmani sahib "Kartoot Pashu ki Manas Jaat",...and many more similar references can be found from Gurbani, there is hardly any doubt left with Guru jee referring to physical death, Its unfortunate that we still believe in Janam Maran (after death) introduced to us by Brahmin.
This is similar to when Guru Jee refers to Tirath, even though he uses word TIRATH but he means something else he does not talk about some place which is auspicious rather in Jap Jee sahib he says "Tirath tap daya dat daan, jay ko paavae til ka maan, suniaa maniaa man kita Bhav ANTARGATH TIRATH MAL NAHAO", "Tirath Nahavan jaaon tirath Naam Hai, Tirath Shabad vichar antar gyan hai".
We live around an environment which believes in all these ritualistic and 15th century thoughts, so its obvious that we use BHRAMIN'S glasses (Ainak) to look and understand Gurbani, why cant we isolate GURBANI from all these thoughts, we've been living with and grown around these myths, GAPOD, imaginations its time to wake up.
Gurbani does not need any outside borrowed beliefs, we have to work hard and understand Gurbani as per Gurbani and nothing else.
Thanks.
--
Richipal Singh

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(26/09/08)
bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

suKdyv isMG jI aqy sfQI vIro,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf,

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

vIr jI, mYN quhfzIaF ienHF lfeInF df Bfv nhIN smJ sikaF, ieh quhfzy vwloN hn jF vIr qrlocn isMG jI vwloN hn. ikAuN ky mYN quhfzy bfry qF kdy kuwJ iliKaf hI nhIN hY.

bldyv isMG jI qusIN ikvyN soc ilaf ik asIN swc qoN ipCy hty hF. swc qF swc hI huMdf hY aqy Auh afpxf pRgtf afpy kr idMdf hY. asIN aj vI swc dI soc qy pihrf dy rhy hF aqy idMdy rhFgy.

quhfzy bfry kuwJ ilKx qoN phlF mYN jpujI sfihb jI dy aKIrly slok ivcoN iewk kVI dy hvfly nfl, quhfnUM iewk byNnqI krnIN cfhvF gf.

cMigafeIaf buirafeIaf vfcY Drmu hdUir] krmI afpo afpxI ky nyVY ky dUir]

akfl purK, pRmfqmF inrvYr hY, swB df sFJf hY, pRrmfqmF vfsqy swB brfbr hn. pr iPr vI slok dI ies kVI qoN sfP jfihr hY, ik iewk qF afdmI dIaF cMigafeIaF aqy burfeIaF df ihsfb Drmrfj dy drbfr ivwc hoxF hY. krmI afpo afpxI ky nyVY ky dUir] aqy dUjf afpo afpxIN krxIN dy anUsfr, koeI prmfqmF dy nyVy hY aqy koeI dUr hY.

swB df sFJf, aqy swB dy nyVy hox dy bfvjUd vI agr pRmfqmF jIv dy nyVy jF dUr ho swkdf hY, jF Prk jF ivwQ rwK swkdf hY, qF myry vrgy bMdy qoN agr koeI aYsI glqI ho jfvy qF koeI vwzI gwl nhIN hY.

myrI gwlqI ieh hY. ijvyN ky vIr qrlocn isMG jI nyN ikhf hY, "sfzf quhfzf afps ivwc iewk afqmk irsqf hY". vIr jI ieh irsqf afpxF swB nfl hY, pr ivcfrF dy QohVy bhuq Prk dy kfrn, iksy nfl kuwJ vwD aqy iksy nfl kuwJ Gwt jrUr huMdf hY. sR: suKdyv isMG jI, qusIN aqy vIr qrlocn isMG jI, myry AuhnF vIrF ivcoN ho, ijnHF nfl myrf swB qoN gUhVf afqimk irsqf hY.

s: suKdyv isMG jI pwqr ilKx vfsqy quhfzf aqy sfQI vIrF df

bhuq bhuq DMnvfd jI.

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

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(25/09/08)
srvjIq isMG

jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI) jI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

afp jI ny afpxy lyK, ‘afvfgAux aqy gurmiq’ ivwc ivsQfr nfl iswK Drm aqy ihMdU Drm dy ivcly aMqr nUM smJfAux df AuWdm kIqf hY. mYnUM AumId hY ik s: amnjIq isMG igwl jI nUM vI afpxy svfl sbMDI, iewk hor pwK qoN vI jfxkfrI ivwc vfDf hoieaf hovygf.

vIr jsbIr isMG jI, ieh ivcfr crcf arMB hoeI sI, po: qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI dy lyK, ‘krmf sMdVf Kyqu’ qoN. ieh KuÈI dI gwl hY ik ies ivwc buhq sfry swjxF ny Bfg ilaf, AuQy hI ieh vI kOVf swc hY ky afpF iksy vI nqIjy qy nhI phuMc sky.

afp jI ny afpxy iewk hor pwqr ivwc gurcrn isMG jI nUM kuwJ svfl kIqy hn. ies sbMDI bynqI hY ik afp jI ny ies pfsy qF iliKaf hY, "gurbfxI ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMndI…" pr dUjy pfsy Aus dy kohlU nUM mfnqf idMdy ho.

afp jI awgy ilKdy ho, "awgoN gurU sfihb kihx ik ies bfry qF koeI pqf nhIN, (ieh qF Auh prmfqmf hI jfxdf hY). qF qusIN ies gwl qoN ieh aMdfjf ikAuN lgf ilaf ik aglf ipClf koeI jnm huMdf hI nhIN. gurbfxI dI sMbMDq quk ivwc gurU sfihb kihMdy hn "nfnk eyv n jfpeI ikQy jfie smfih] ". iewQy gurU sfihb kihMdy hn ik koeI pqf nhIN (jIv) ikQy jfky smf jFdf hY. ies gwl df qusIN ieh arQ ikAuN lgf rhy ho ik aglf koeI jnm huMdf hI nhIN."

vIr jI kI afp jI nUM vI ieh svfl nhI kIqf jF skdf ik jdoN gurU jI qF ieh kih rhy hn ik ies bfry qF koeI pqf nhIN, qF qusI iks dlIl nfl kih rhy ho ik aglF jnm jrUr hovygf? jdo ky bfxI df alfhI Purmnf hY, "nfnk ijin krqY kfrxu kIaf so jfxY krqfru] ò]"

vIr jI, hux afp jI nUM vI AuhI svfl kIqy jF skdy hn ijnHF nfl afpF sfry pihlf hI do-cfr ho cuwky hF. imsfl vjo ajrfeIl nUM mOq df PirÈqf kOx mMndf hY? iewk pfsy mOq df Pirsqf ajrfeIl hY dUjy pfsy koeI hor. ‘ieku sMsfrI ieku BMzfrI ieku lfey dIbfxu]’ iewk pfsy ajrfeIl df kohlU hY dUjy pfsy Drm rfj df. ‘lyKf Drm Bieaf iql pIVy GfxI rfm]’ iewk hor kohlU df hvflf vI imldf hY ‘agY jmkflu lyKf lyvY ijAu iql GfxI pIVfiedf]’ Pyr Drmrfj aqy jmkfl kox hn df vI ijkr ho skdf hY. kohlU ikQy hn? kihx qo Bfv hY ik jy ipCly smy ivwc afpF iksy nqIjy qy nhI awpVy qF awgo kI afs hY?

vIr jI, bynqI hY ik afpF ies ivÈy nUM bMd krky iksy hor ivsLy qy ivcfr crcf arMB krIey. ijvy asI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI 300 sflF gurqfgwdI idvs mnf rhy hf pr keI QFeI dsm gRMQ, gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr pRkfs hY. rfgmflf df mslf vI hY. gurU nfnk jI df gurpurb vI af irhf hY pr ies qrIK bfry vI mwq-Byd hn. keI hor vI ivÈy ho skdy hn.

s: mwKx isMG jI nUM vI byqnI hY ik ivcfr-crcf dy leI koeI inXm vI hoxy cfhIdy hn. ieh nf hovy ky jo sulf-sPfeI krvfAux afvy qF asl svfl nUM Cwz ky Aus nUM hI Dr ilaf jfvy ijvy s: bldyv isMG iProjpur vfilaf nfl hoieaf hY.

pfTkF dy AusfrU huMgfry dI AuTIk ivc

srvjIq isMG.

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(25/09/08)
hrmnjIq isMG

ÃÄ sRI vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

sRI BgAuqI jI shfie.

aQ lIzr cirqR ilKXqy.

joigMdr ivdFqI eyk BXo pujfrI.

iqn ky kfm nF gurmiq anusfrI. 1.

isKX kOm BtkfXo sfrI.

dsm gRMQ aKMz pfT krvfXo BfrI. 2.

lfXo rfÈtrI sMG sy XfrI.

gurU kI isKI nF iCn mfqr pXfrI. 3.

iqn jo krI pMQ sy gdfrI. KoXo apnI isKoN my jQydfrI. 4.

bicqR nftk gRMQ kI kQf sunfie.

sun kir inq mhfkfl ko iDafie. 5.

sfQ mhfkfl ky mdrf BFg ipvfie.

khXo jo nF pIey so pMQ sy jfie. 6. {3-01-08}

ieiq sRI cirqR pKXfny lIzr cirqRy mMqRI BUp sMbfdy

pRQm cirqR smfpqm squ suBm squ. 1. 6. aPjUM.

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(25/09/08)
suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

suKdyv isMG aqy sfQI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

bldyv isMG jI

bldyv isMG jI qusIN ikvyN soc ilaf ik asIN swc qoN ipCy hty hF. swc qF swc hI huMdf hY aqy Auh afpxf pRgtf afpy kr idMdf hY. asIN aj vI swc dI soc qy pihrf dy rhy hF aqy idMdy rhFgy.

myrf Pon qy sMprk hoieaf sI qrlocn isMG jI nfl. AunHF ny quhfnUM Piqh Bulf ByjI hY aqy sfrI sMgq leI cVHdI klf dI kfmnf kr rhy sn. AunHF df quhfzy leI sMdyÈf hY ijvyN AunHF ny Pon qy disaf myN Aus nUM AuvyN hI ilK irhf hF.

qrlocn isMG jI vloN

bldyv isMG jI, AumrF df qkfËf dunIaf dy nfp qol leI hY quhfzy leI nhIN. qusIN sfzy qoN afiqmk pwKoN vwzy ho. quhfzy qoN afsF hn. jdoN afsF nUM Tys phuMcdI hY qF idl duKI huMdf hY. ieh TIk hY ik jdoN iewtF roVy aqy pwQr vwj rhy sn qF vI aYnf duK nhIN sI hoieaf ijnHf bldyv isMG dy Pul mfrn qy hoieaf hY ikAuNik quhfzy nfl sfzf afqimk irÈqf hY aqy ieh afqmf aYnI koml hY ik Pul dI mfr vI brdfÈq nhIN krdI. KYr kihMdy huMdy aY aMq Blf so Blf. qusIN aKIr dunIaf sfhmxy swc Aujfgr kIqf. ies leI ieh qrlocn isMG quhfzf irxI rhygf.

suKdyv isMG

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(23/09/08)
gurdyv isMG swDyvflIaf

bfbf hrdyv isMG jI lUlHoN vfly dsm grMQ bfry gwlbfq qoN muwkry!

pMjfb gfrzIan ibAuro/mfltn: dsm grMQ nUM lY ky keI icrF qoN iswK kOm ivwc zyrdfrF vloN duibDf KVI kIqI jf rhI hY. ijQy iswK kOm DMn sRI gurU grMQ sfihb jI df 300 sflf gurgwdI idvs mnfAuNx jf rhI hY AuQy Aus nUM iewk aijhy ivvfd nfl vI do-cfr hoxf pY irhf hY ijhVf byhwd byloVf aqy QoQf hY ikAuNik jd gurU goibMd isMG jI ny gurU grMQ sfihb jI nUM mwQf hI tyk idqf qF ivcoN iewk hor grMQ ikQoN pRgt ho ipaf ijs dy aKMz pfT gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr kIqy jf rhy hn.

iesy ivvfd dI kVHI ivwc Èfml hn bfbf hrdyv isMG jI lUlHoN vfly ijhVy iswK styjF qy dsm grMQ nUM KUB msfly lf ky pRcfrdy rhy hn. bfbf hrdyv isMG jI lUlHoN vfly apxI trMto PyrI qy hox kfrn sR hrmnjIq isMG nF dy nOjvfn ny bfbf lUlHoN vfilaF nUM imlky dsm grMQ bfry pey BulyiKaF sbMDI glbfq krnI cfhI qF pihlF qF bfby kIrqn dy Bog qoN bfad dIvfn hfl ivwc hI iqafr ho pey pr sR hrmnjIq isMG dy dsx muqfbk jd Asny dsm grMQ df 2-3 sPy df icwTf kwZky Auhnf agy rwiKaf qF bfby kihx lg pey ieh qF qUM vwzf icwTf kwZ ilaf hY. bfby dy cyilaF hlfq nUM smJidaF Pwt pYNqVf bdl ilaf ik hux bfbf jI gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy gurgwdI idvs krky ruJy hoey hn qusIN kuwJ idn Tihr ky gwl kr lYxI. hrmnjIq isMG dy muqfbk bfibaF dy syvk ny Aus df Pon lY ilaf pr apxf nMbr dyx qoN nFh kr idqI.

hrmnjIq isMG ny pMjfb gfrzIan nUM ilKqI ibafn ivwc disaf ik iqMn hPqy lMG jfx qy vI jd bfibaF jF Auhnf dy iksy cyly vloN koeI jvfb nf afieaf qF hrmnjIq isMG dy nfl gey iewk bËurg, gurdyv isMG ny hI bfibaF nUM iPr jf puwiCaf ik qusIN Aus nOjvfn df hfly koeI jvfb ikAuN nhI idqf qF ik sfzI kOm dy nOjvfnf ivwc pYdf ho rhI duibDf nUM Gtfieaf jf sky aqy quhfzy vrgy isafxy bËurgF nfl bYT ky koeI hwl lwiBaf jf sky. hrmnjIq isMG dy ibafn muqfbk bfibaF ny bËurg gurdyv isMG nUM bVf gYrijMmyvrfnf ijhf jvfb idqf ik asIN Auhnf nUM aqy Auh sfnUM nhI mnf skdy so gwlbfq krn df koeI Pfiedf nhI! jd bfbf jI nUM puwiCaf igaf ik jy qusIN gwlbfq leI iqafr hI nhI qF ieh afpsI msly hwl ikvyN hoxgy. qF Auhnf jvfb idqf ik akfl qKq hI ies msly df hwl kr skdf hY. ieQy Xfd krfieaf jFdf hY ik jd ieh bfby lok ikqy Psdy hn qF akfl qKq df nF vrq ky apxI jfn Cuzf jFdy hn jd ik koeI vI zyrydfr Kud akfl qKq dI iksy rihq mirXfdf nUM mMndf hI nhI. jF ikMnf ku mMndf hY ieh iswK kOm BqIBFq jfxdI hY. Kud ieh bfby ‘Aus ivwc mIt Kfxf ju iliKaf’ kih ky keI vfrI akfl qKq dI mirXfdf df mKOl Auzf cuwky hn.

sR hrmnjIq isMG ny pMjfb gfrzIafn nUM disaf ik jy ieh zyrydfr lok iksy gwlbfq df jvfb hI nhI dyx nUM iqafr qF iswK styjF qy ikAuN aijhy lwcr iksm dy grMQF nUM gurU grMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr pRmot krky iswK kOm ivwc duibDfvF KVIaF krdy aqy gurU grMQ sfihb jI bfry ÈMky pYdf kr rhy hn. Auhnf disaf ik mYN qF kuwJ icr pihlF mfltn gurudafrf sfihb tksfl dy iewk afey hoey kQf vfck BfeI jrnYl isMG jI nUM imilaf sI pr Auhnf vI dsm grMQ sbMDI jvfb dyx dI bjfie ieh kih ky tfl idqf ik bfbf jI lUlHoN vfly af rhy hn ijvyN mrjI KulHyafm qusIN Auhnf nfl gl kr skdy ho. BfeI jrnYl isMG jI dI ton qoN jfpdf sI ijvyN bfbf jI lUlHoN vfly hryk svfl df jvfb dyx dy smrQ huMdy hn pr sR hrmnjIq isMG ny ikhf ik Auhnf nUM BfrI inrfsqf hoeI ik koeI ijMmyvfr sfnUM iehnf gwlF df jvfb nhI dy irhf qF asIN jvfb iks koloN leIey. ieQy vrnn jog hY sR hrmnjIq isMG XUnIvristI df stUzYNt hY aqy gurbfxI dy nfl dsm grMQ Aupr vI kfPI Koj kr irhf hY. Aus dy dsx muqfbk Auh dsm grMQ Aupr ieMgilÈ ivwc iewk ikqfb vI ilK irhf hY iesy sbMD ivwc Auh alwg-alwg ÈKsIaqF nUM imlky Auhnf dy iKafl jfnxf cfhuMdf sI qF ik sfzI kyvl ieMgilÈ pVI nvIN pIhVI iksy hor duibDf ivwc pYxoN bc ky kyvl qy kyvl gurU grMQ sfihb jI Aupr hI apxI tyk rwK sky.

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(23/09/08)
bldyv isMG iProjpur

pRo: qrlocn isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf.

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

vIr jI, qusF qF mYnUM iewk qrF nfl Drm sMkt ivwc pf idwqf hY. quhfzf pwqr pVHky myrf mn bhuq duKI hoieaf. mYnUM ieMj lwgf ijvyN myry pfsoN koeI Gor pfp ho igaf hovy. swcmuwc iewk vfr qF mYN hwkfbwkf ijhf rih igaf. bVI muÈkl nfl afpxyN afp nUM sMBfilaf. kI afpxyN vIr nUM kuwJ smJfAux dI eyzI vwzI sjf dyeI dI hY, ijwzI qusIN mYnUM dy rhy ho? qusIN sfrI ijmyN vfrI iewk qrF nfl myry qy pf idwqI hY.

pRo: qrlocn isMG jI, qusIN swcy ho. ieh mYN pihly vI bynqI kr cuwkf hF, quhfzI soc shI hY, ieh vI swc hY. quhfzy ivcfr shI hn, ieh vI swc hY. quhfzf inÈfnF shI hY, pr igafn aDUrf hY, jF ajy kwcf hY. sfnUM hmyÈF Xfd rwKxF cfhIdf hY ik afpF Buwlxhfr hF. sfnUM iksy nUM vI pUrx igafn nhIN hY, aqy eyhI kfrx hY JgVy df. ijs nUM igafn hY, svfl hI pYdf nhIN huMdf ik Auh JgVf kry.

lokF nyN quhfnUM pwQr mfry, qusIN jr gey. ieh vI swc hY. myry mfry Puwl nfl qusIN kurlf pey. ieh vI swc hY.

qusF iliKaf,

(2) bldyv isMG jI mYnUM hmyÈF leI duK rhygf ik qusIN aYnI ihMmq nf kIqI ik mYnUM swcf smJdy hoey vI inDVk ho ky swcf kih skdy. quhfizaF icTIaF qoN Bfv huMdf hY ik mYN jo kuwJ ilK irhf hF Auh ies leI ik mYN afpxy ihmfqIaF dI lfeInF lf skF aOr jy myry qoN ieho ijhf kuwJ ilK ho igaf qF myrIaF lfeInF CotIaF ho jfxgIaF.

vIr jI aYsI koeI gwl nhIN hY. qusIN vI jfxdy ho kuwJ vIrF ny inDVk ho ky quhfzy pwK dI gwl khI, pr kI Pfiedf hoieaf. AuhnF nUM vI afKr KmoÈ hoxF ipaf. Èfied ies df ieh vI iewk kfrn hovy, ik qusF nyN bihs nUM byloVf aqy bhuq lMmF iKwc ilaf sI. JgVf iPr vI hwl nhIN hoieaf, kI hmfieq krn nfl JgVy df hwl ho skdf hY. JgVf iksy vI smwisaf df hwl nhIN hY, ieh qusIN vI jfxdy ho.

aqy iesy krky mYN ÈurU qoN hI JgVf Kqm krfAux df rsqf cuixaF. pr vIr jI qusF vI mYnUM smiJaf nhIN, ieh vI qF quhfzI hmfieq hI hY. pqf nhIN myrI ies koiÈÈ df koeI Pfiedf huMdf hY jF nhIN.

mYN sfry pfTkF, aqy ilKfrIaF nUM vI bynqI krdf hF ik ieh kYsI gurmwq hY, kI kI nhIN suxnF ipaf vIr qrlocn isMG jI nUM.

vIr jI, mYnUM iswK mfrg nfl juVy nUM ajy ijafdf icr nhIN hoieaf. pr Èfied quhfzf aqy gurcrn isMG jI df JgVf Aus qo vI purfxF hY.

vIr jI Qwly ilKy alPfË vI qF quhfzy hI hn.

muafP krnf. rwb AunHF sfiraF nUM sumiq dyvy. Auh vI sfzy vIr hn, cfhy QoVf koVy hn. pr iewk idn jrUr imTy hoxgy. smF iensfn nUM bdl idMdf hY.

vIr jI mYN vI qF ieho hI socdf hF, aqy ieho hI kihMdf hF, ieho hI krn dI koiÈÈ krdf hF. vIr jI 13 sqMbr nUM ilKI icwTI, kI quhfzy pwK ivwc gwl nhIN sI.

vIr jI qusF iliKaf.

(3) bldyv isMG sfieMs mfVI nhIN ieh sfieMs vI swc df Aujfgr hY. nvIaF KojF ivwc ÈUKsm lYvl qy pfrtIkl (jnyvf ivwc hox vfly LHC mÈIn dy irjlt) guMm ho jfxgy qy arbd nrbd DUMDkfr df Aujflf hovygf ies leI kdI vI iksy vI igafn nUM nf inMdxf.

vIr jI mYN sfieMs dI inMdf nhIN krdf, sfieMs afpxIN jgHf TIk hY. vIr jI, jnyvf aYkspYrImYNt agr kfmXfb ho vI jFdf hY, qF kI pRmfqmF nfl imlfp df koeI afsfn rsqf Kuwl jfvygf, kI ivigafnIaF dy arbd nrbd DUMDkfry dy Aujfly ivwc pRmfqmF idKfeI dy jfvy gF. kdy vI nhIN.

bfkI mYN afpxyN koloN kdy vI kuwJ nhIN kihMdf. vIr jI, mYN qF gurbfxIN anUsfr gwl kIqI sI. ieh gurU nfnk dyv jI dI bfxIN hY.

muMdRf Ptk bnfeI kfin] mukiq nhI ibidaf ibigafin] (ùúó)

vIr jI ijQoN qwk quhfnUM jfxkfrI hY, Auh shI hY. mYN quhfnUM ipCly pwqr ivwc ies qoN aglI styj df Byd jfnx vfsqy, socx leI iewk ihMt idwqf sI, mYN quhfnUM iliKaf sI, ik awj qF asIN mMndy hF ky koeI rwb hY. pr kwl nUM agr Auh rwb quhfnUM jF sfnUM nfsqk bnf dyvy qF kI krFgy. aqy jy asIN cfhuMdy hF ky asIN kdy vI nfsqk nF bnIey, qF sfnUM kI krnF cfhIdf hY. vIr jI kI ieh gwl socx vflI hY jF nhIN. sfnUM Aus vyly df kuwJ jqn krnF cfhIdf hY jF nhIN. ies nUM svfl nF smJo. ieh ivcfr hY, jo mYN swB dy sfhmxyN rwiKaf hY. mYN qF ieQoN qwk vI kih idwqf sI, ik sfry svflF df sfry JgiVaf df hwl isrP do awKrF ivwc hY. aqy jy sfnUM ies gwl df hI pqf nhIN, qF asIN iksy nUM kI smJf swkdy hF.

vIr jI agr quhfnUM ies dy AuWqr df nhIN pqf qF ies ivwc quhfzf koeI doÈ nhIN hY. sfnUM iksy nUM vI pUrn igafn nhIN hY. ies ivwc nrfj hox vflI koeI gwl nhIN hY.

vIr jI mYN afpxyN pwqrF ivwc awj qwk jo jo vI suafl AuTfey hn, iksy dI prK lYx vfsqy nhIN, blky ivcfr krn vfsqy AuTfey hn.

qusF iliKaf hY,

(5) vIr pfl mYnUM qyry nfl koeI iglf iskvf nhIN. qUM myry Coty Brf vFgUM ivcfrF kIqIaF. ho skdf hY myry qoN vwD Gwt iliKaf igaf hovy ies leI Coty vIr mihsUs nf krIN. vizaF nUM QoVf bhuqf qF hwk huMdf hI hY CoitaF qy hukm culfAux df[

vIr jI, jrf dwisaf jy, mYnUM qusIN Cotf vIr mMndy ho jF vwzf, aqy mYnUM qusIN ikhVf hwk dyNdy ho.

quhfzf vIr

bldyv isMG

iProjpur.

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qrlocn isMG (iPijks)

qrlocn isMG (iPijks)

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21-09-08 dI icTI leI soD

muafP krnf mYN kuwJ nvF nhIN ilK irhf. afpxI pihlI icTI 21-09-08 ivwc soD krnI cfhuMdf hF, nhIN qF isr qy Bfr rhygf. ijnHF myry vIrF ny myry nfl nslI jF jfqI ivqkrf kIqf, ijs df duK mYNnUM ijMdgI Br rhygf, Auh hn:

(1) gurcrn isMG brfV: ienHF ny myry sbMD ivwc afrtIkl iliKaf ‘mhfjn dI aslIaq’

(2) guirMdr isMG brfV: ienHF ny myry sbMD ivwc afrtIkl iliKaf ‘ieh afqmf vflf gorKDMdf’

(3) gurqyj isMG: ijnHF ny mYnUM pfgl krfr idqf

ikRpf krky gurdyv isMG swDyvflIaf dI jgf guirMdr isMG brfV piVHaf jfvy. bol gurdyv isMG swDyvflIaf jI dy vI suKfvyN nhIN sn pr AunHF df atYk jfqI jF nslI nhIN sI. myry qoN glqI nfl AunHF df nfm iliKaf igaf ies leI AunHF qoN muafPI mMgdf hF.

quhfzy qoN rusqK ho irhf quhfzf pfgl vIr:

qrlocn isMG

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suKdyv isMG jI aqy sfQI

suKdyv isMG jI aqy sfQI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

smUMh sMgq jI nUM bynqI.

mYN pihlF vI spstIkrx dy cukf hF ik sMq mfVHf nhIN pr aKOqI sMq mfVHf hY iesy qrHF imsnrI mfVy nhIN pr aKOqI imÈnrI (nklI imsnrI) mfVy hn. ijhVy iensfn Èbd gurU df pRcfr krn leI imsnbMd hn Auh sfzy leI bVy hI siqkfr Xog hn, ikAuNik Auh Èbd gurU df pRcfr Gr Gr phuMcf rhy hn. ieho ijhy imÈnrIaF nUM sfzI do hwQ joV ky nmÈkfr hY. pr kuwJ aKOqI lok jo asl ivwc imÈnrI nhIN hn pr afpxy afp nUM pyÈ imÈnrI vjoN krdy hn AunHF nUM aKOqI imÈnrI ikhf jFdf hY Auh BYVy nf hoey qF kI Auh cMgy hn qusIN afp dso. jo vI gurU nfnk dyv jI dy imÈn qy pihrf dy irhf hY Auh pUjxXog hY pr jo Aus qoN Ault hovygf Auh inMdxXog hY.

ieMdr isMG Gwgy vrgy vI hn ijnHF df lyK df hYizMg isKF leI byhwd duKdfeI hY ‘nfm ismrx- iewk gorK DMdf’ ijs nfm ismrx bfry gurU gMQ sfihb jI dy hr pMny qy aMikq hY Ausy nfm ismrx df Auh hYizMg bxf rhy hn ‘gorK-DMdf’ ies afrtIkl ivwc BfvyN Auh kuwJ mrjI ilKx pr Auh hYizMg pVH ky hI idl duKI ho jFdf hY. mMndy hF ik zyry vfly ies df njfieË Pfiedf AuTf rhy hn. pr ies df ieh mqlB nhIN ky qusIN nfm ismrn nUM gorK DMdf kihxf ÈurU kr idE. iewk ikqfb AunHF ilKI ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’

ieh iewk aijhf ivdvfn hY ijhVf hmyÈf isKI dy Ault hYizMg lfAuNdf hY. ikho ijhf hYizMg ieh hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’ asIN isKF dI cVdIklf dI ardfs krdy nhIN Qkdy Auh ieh hYizMg lgf irhf hY ‘isKF df srbnfÈ’. kmfl hY koeI vI isK ies leI ikMqU pRMqU nhIN krdf.

suKdyv isMG

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jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

gurcrn isMG jI (ijAuxvflf) aqy isK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.

qusIN iliKaf hY "gurbfxI muqfbk sfP nËr afAuNdf hY ik ies jnm qoN bfad iksy bMdy df hor jnm’ c pYx df iksy nUM koeI pqf nhIN, ieh sfrI kfZ bRhmx dI hY".

ies svfl df jvfb mYN awgy dy cuikaf hF. imhrbfnI krky ieko svfl nUM (QohVF ijhf bdl ky) bfr bfr nf puiCaf kro jI. qusIN iliKaf hY ‘iksy nUM koeI pqf nhIN’ - jy qusIN iksy nUM puwCo ik asmfn ivwc ikMny qfry hn? Auh awgoN khy ik pqf nhIN. qF qusIN ies gwl df kI aMdfjf lgfE gy ik asmfn ivwc qfry huMdy hI nhIN. jy gurU sfihb nUM koeI puwCy ik dwso koeI ivakqI mrn ipwCoN iks jUn ivwc peygf (kIVy pqMgy dI jUn ivwc jF hfQI GoVy dI?). awgoN gurU sfihb kihx ik ies bfry qF koeI pqf nhIN, (ieh qF Auh prmfqmf hI jfxdf hY). qF qusIN ies gwl qoN ieh aMdfjf ikAuN lgf ilaf ik aglf ipClf koeI jnm huMdf hI nhIN. gurbfxI dI sMbMDq quk ivwc gurU sfihb kihMdy hn "nfnk eyv n jfpeI ikQy jfie smfih]". iewQy gurU sfihb kihMdy hn ik koeI pqf nhIN (jIv) ikQy jfky smf jFdf hY. ies gwl df qusIN ieh arQ ikAuN lgf rhy ho ik aglf koeI jnm huMdf hI nhIN. ieh mYN ipCly lyK/pwqr ivwc vI ilK cuwikaf hF ik lokF ny jIvfqmf dI gwl kIqI hY qF jfihr hY ik gurU sfihb vI jIvfqmf bfry hI afpxy ivcfr dyx gy. dUsrf ieh ik iewQy cwl rhI crcf ivwc qusIN kih rhy ho ik "lokF nUM gurU jI puwC rhy hn …[". jnvrI 2005 dy isK ivrsf kYlgrI ivwc Cpy afpxy lyK ivwc qusIN iliKaf hY "gurU nfnk dyv jI … aKIr ivwc afpxf mwq dy rhy hn ik koeI pqf nhIN ik pRfxI mrn qoN bfad ikQy clf jFdf hY. ies gwl df qusIN koeI jvfb nhIN idwqf ik gurU sfihb lokF nUM puwC rhy hn jF ‘lokF nUM afpxf mwq dy rhy hn’ ? ikAuNik quhfzI afpxI hI iewk ilKq muqfbk gurU sfihb puwC rhy hn aqy dUsrI ilKq muqfbk gurU sfihb afpxf mwq dws rhy hn. PYslf quhfzy hwQ hY.

qusIN iliKaf hY "jy qusIN jIv afqmf nUM iql GfxI pIVn dI gwl krdy ho qF ipaf pRmfqmf GfxI pIVy ikAuNik afqmf qF hY hI prmfqmf df ihwsf, myrf qF srIr sI qy sfV ky Éqm kr idwqf igaf jF pMj qwqF ivwc pMj qwq iml gey. mYnUM kI?".

ijAuxvflf jI! qusIN ieh qF mMndy ho ik afqmf prmfqmf df ihwsf hY, arQfq aqmf huMdI hY. pr prmfqmf df ihwsf huMdy hoey vI qusIN duK suK qF mihsUs krdy ho. byÈk ieh duK suK idmfÊ dy ËrIey hI sMcfilq huMdy hn, pr ies nUM BogdI jIvfqmf hI hY. qusIN iliKaf hY "myrf qF srIr sI…". ies gwl nUM Ërf gMBIrqf nfl ivcfro ieh "myrf" kI cIj hY. iehI hY afqmf, jIv afqmfqmf jF aMqhkrx jo ik srIr qoN vwKrI cIj hY. ieh aMqhkrx surq, mwq, mn aqy buwD df myl hY. quhfnUM sVk qy peI iksy dI bhuq hI vzmuwlI cIj lwB pey quhfnUM koeI dyK nF irhf hovy. Aus cIj nUM Aus dy aslI mflk qwk phuMcf dyxf cfhIdf hY jF ies nUM apxy kol hI rwK ilaf jfey, ies cIj df ÌYslf mn ny krky idmfÊ nUM sunyhf dyxf huMdf hY. asl ivwc afqmf prmfqmf dI aMÈ hY aqy prmfqmf dI qrHF hI pivwqr vI hY. pr mn cMcl hY ies nUM iviÈaF vkfrF df cskf bhuq rihMdf hY. mn df idmfÊ nfl iswDf sMbMD hY. idmfÊ dy ËrIey sMsfr ivwc krhly (AUT dy bwcy dI qrHF) twpdf iPrdf hY. afqmf mn nUM hmyÈF cMgy kMm krn leI pRyrdI hY. pr mn cMcl hY ieh idmfÊ nUM Êlq sunyhf dy ky srIr qoN glq kMm krvfAuNdf rihMdf hY. pr keIaF BfgF vfilaF nyN mn nUM ijwq ilaf huMdf hY ies nUM afpxI mn mrËI nhIN krn idMdy. Auh gurmuK hmyÈF cMgy kMm hI krdy hn. ies dy Ault ijhVy mn qy kfbU nhIN pfAuNdy mn dy afKy lwg ky jIvn bqIq krdy hn aqy mrn ipwCoN anykF jUnF ivwc pY ky duwK Bogdy hn. qusIN ies gwl nUM nhIN mMndy nf shI ies nfl iksy dUsry nUM koeI Ìrk nhIN pYNdf. kbUqr vI ibwlI nUM dyK ky awKF bMd kr lYNdf hY Aus nUM lwgdf hY ik Aus nUM koeI dyK nhIN irhf ies leI Aus nUM koeI Kqrf nhIN.

qusIN iliKaf hY "jy qusIN jIv afqmf nUM iql GfxI pIVn dI gwl krdy ho qF ipaf pRmfqmf GfxI pIVy. … mYnUM kI?"

ijAuxvflf jI! iql GfxI pIVn dI gwl mYN nhIN kIqI ieh gurU sfihb dI PlOsPI hY.

gurU sfihb kihMdy hn: "krmI afpo afpxI afpy pCqfxI] ajrfeIl Prysqf iql pIVy GfxI] (pMnf- 315). gurbfxI ajrfeIl dI hoNd nUM nhIN mMndI pr ikAuNik ajrfeIl mOq df Pirsqf mMinaf igaf hY ies leI iewQy ajrfeIl df arQ hY mOq qoN ipwCoN.

"qUM vlvMc lUik krih sB jfxY jfxI rfm] lyKf Drm Bieaf iql pIVy GfxI rfm] ikrq kmfxy duK shu prfxI aink join BRmfieaf] (pMnf- 546).

"mflu jobn Dnu Coiz vMÖysf] krm krIm n jfqo krqf iql pIVy ijAu GfxIaf] (pMnf- 1020). mfl jobn iesqRI sB Cwz jfx qoN mgroN dI siQqI arQfq mrn ipwCoN df df iËkr hY.

"hAumY kridaf jnmu gvfieaf] agY jmkflu lyKf lyvY ijAu iql GfxI pIVfiedf]" (pMnf- 1063) (iewQy jnm gieaf qoN bfad, jmkfl arQfq mrn ipwCoN agY df iËkr hY arQfq agly jnm df sfP iËkr hY). jnm ibrQf gvf ky awgy qur jfx df ijkr hY.

"cor jfr jUafr pIVy GfxIaY] inMdk lfieqbfr imly hVvfxIaY] gurmuK sic smfie su drgh jfxIaY] (pMnf- 1288) (iewQy drgh df iËkr hY jo ik ies jnm qoN bfad leI ikhf igaf hY.

iql GfxI pIVn dI PlOsPI gurU sfihb dI hY myrI nhIN. qusIN ies nUM nhIN mMndy qF nF shI. pr gurU sfihbF dI PlOsPI nUM qusIN afp nhIN mMndy aqy bRhmxvfd PYlfAux df doÈ qusIN myry qy lgf rhy ho. Èfied ies leI ik ies qrHF krky gurmq pRymIaF dy mn ivwc myry pRqI nÌrq ijafdf aqy sOKI pYdf kIqI jf skdI hY aqy afpxy afp nUM sB qoN vwzy gurmq pRymI iswD kr skdy ho. (ijAuxvflf jI! afÈUqoÈIey pKMzI dI gRMQ numf GtIaf rcnf dy ijhVy qusIN pfj AuGfVY hn aqy BfeI bfly vflI jnmsfKI bfry gurbfxI progRfm qy ijhVI aslIaq jfhr kIqI hY Aus qrHF dIaF quhfzIaF pMQk syvfvF vfsqy myry mn ivwc quhfzy pRqI bhuq iewjq hY).

qusIN iliKaf hY "jy jIv afqmf mMn leIey punr jnm mMn leIey qF bMdf zr dy cwkr qoN mukq ho hI nhIN skdf…".

ijAuxvflf jI! qusIN afqmf nUM nhIN mMndy pr afqmk mOq nUM mMndy ho (ies df iËkr quhfzy keI lyKF ivwc afieaf hY) bVI ajIb gwl hY. rhI punr jnm aqy zrn dI gwl. gurmuK bMdy nUM koeI jnm mrn df gyV nhIN huMdf. Aus nUM muV muV jgq Kyz ivwc nhIN afAuxf pYNdf. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn "hAu bfhuiV iCMJ n ncAU nfnk aAusru lDf Bfl jIAu] (pMnf- 74). ies leI gurmuK bMdy nUM zrnf nhIN pYNdf. pr mnmuK bMdy nUM jnm mrn df gyVf ipaf hI rihMdf hY ies leI zrnf Aus nUM cfhIdf hY, hflFik zrdf Auh vI nhIN Aus nUM ieh Xfd hI nhIN huMdf ik Aus dy krmF df vI lyKf hoxf hY.

"agY" Èbd bfry quhfzI qswlI nhIN hoeI. qusIN iliKaf hY "mYnUM quhfzIaF ilKIaF pMgqIaF dy arQ krn dI loV ies krky nhIN ikAuNik mYN quhfnUM puC irhf hF "agY" df mqlb agly jnm ivwc kuwJ vfprn nfl ikvyN sMbMiDq hY?"

ijAuxvflf jI! qusIN kih rhy ho "agY" df arQ iesy jnm ivwc afAux vfly smyN leI hI hY. aqy mYN kih irhf hF ik "agY" iesy jnm ivwc afAux vfly smyN aqy ies jnm qoN bfad agly jnm leI vI, donF leI afieaf hY. jy afpo afpxy ivcfrF qy aVy rhIey qF ieh isrÌ bihs hI hovy gI. qusIN gurmq pRymI ho (myry bfry qusIN jo mrËI smJI jfvo). mYN "agY" Èbd bfry BulyKf dUr krn leI gurbfxI coN kuwJ qukF pyÈ kIqIaF sI qusIN ienHF dy arQ nhIN krny cfhuMdy. clo koeI gwl nhIN pRo: sfihb isMG duafrf kIqy AunHF qukF dy arQ mYN pyÈ kr irhf hF ijs nfl quhfzf BulyKf dUr ho jfxf cfhIdf hY ik ies jnm qoN awgy vI kuwJ hY jF nhIN.

"tUtI inMdk kI aD bIc…[] eIhf duKu afgY nrk BuMcY bhu jonI BrmfvY] (pMnf- 1224) arQ: inMdk ies lok ivwc duwK pFdf hY, (ikAuNik Aus dI koeI iewjq nhIN krdf) prlok ivwc Auh nrk Bogdf hY, anykF jUnF ivwc Btkdf hY.

"kir ikrpf ijs kY ihrdY grIbI bsfvY] nfnk eIhf mukqu afgY suKu pfvY] (pMnf- 278) arQ- (pRBU) imhr krky ijs mnuwK dy idl ivwc grIbI (suBfAu) pFdf hY, hy nfnk! (Auh muwnK) ies ijMdgI ivwc ivkfrF qoN bicaf rihMdf hY qy prlok ivwc suK pFdf hY.

"brq nym sMjm mih rhqf iqn kf afZu nf pfieaf] afgY clxu aAuru hY BfeI AUhF kfim n afieaf] (pMnf- 216) arQ- mnuwK vrqF sMjmF dy nym ivwc ruwJf rihMdf hY, pr AuhnF AudmF df muwl Aus nUM iewk kOzI BI nhIN imldf. hy BfeI! jIv dy nfl prlok ivwc sfQ inBfAuyx vflf pdfrQ hor hY (brq nym sMjm afidk ivwcoN koeI BI) prlok ivwc kMm nhIN afAuNdf.

"aYQY sfcy su afgY sfcy] mn scf scY sbid rfcy] (pMnf- 116) ijhVy mnuwK ies lok ivwc azol –icwq rihMdy hn Auh prlok ivwc vI pRBU nfl iek-imk hoey rihMdy hn.

"kfieaf kcI kcf cIru hMZfey] dUjY lfgI mhlu n pfey] anidnu jldI iPrY idnu rfqI ibnu ipr bhu duKu pfieaf] 2] dyhI jfiq nf afgY jfey] ijQY lyKf mMgIaY iqQY CutY scu kmfey] siqguru syvin sy DnvMqy aYQY EQY nfim smfvixaf] (pMnf- 112) arQ- ieh srIr nfsvMq hY mfno kmËor ijhf kwpVf hY (pr mnuwK dI ijMd ies) jrjry kwpVy nUM hI hMZfdI rihMdI hY (Bfv, ijMd srIrk BogF ivwc hI mgn rihMdI hY). (ijMd) mfieaf dy ipafr ivwc lwgI rihMdI hY (ies vfsqy ieh pRBU- crnF ivwc) itkfxf hfsl nhIN kr skdI. (mfieaf dy moh dy kfrx ijMd) hr vyly idn rfq sVdI qy BtkdI hY, pRBU pqI (dy imlfp) qoN ibnf bhuq duwK JwldI hY. pRBU dI hjUrI ivwc (mnuwK df srIr nhIN jf skdf, AucI jfq BI nhIN phuMc skdI. ijwQy (prlok ivwc hryk mnuwK pfsoN kIqy krmF df) ihsfb mMigaf jFdf hY. AuQy qF sdf iQr pRBU dy nfm ismrn dI kmfeI krky hI surKrU hoeIdf hY. ijhVy mnuwK gurU dI dwsI syvf krdy hn Auh (pRBU dy nfm Dn nfl) DnfZ bx jFdy hn. Auh ies lok ivwc vI aqy prlok ivwc vI sdf pRBU dy nfm ivwc lIn rihMdy hn.

Aupr idwqIaF qukF ivwc "agY" lÌË afieaf hY. AumId hY ies bfry quhfzy kIqy svfl df jvfb iml igaf hovygf. hyTF kuJku qukF hor dy irhf hF ijhnF ivwc byÈk ‘agY’ lÌË nhIN afieaf pr hn ies jnm qoN bfad agly jnm nfl sMbMDq. iehnF qukF dy vI arQ jy qusIN nf krny cfho qF mYnUM dwsxf pRo: sfihb isMG duafrf kIqy arQ mYN ilK idaFgf.

mYN gurbfxI’ coN keI qukF pyÈ kIqIaF sI ijs qrHF drgh ikwQy hY? bMdf ikQy afey-jfey? qukF ivwc anyk jnmF ivwc anyk junF df iËkr sI, AunHF df arQ iesy jnm ivwc anyk jUnF iks qrHF hoieaf? mYN Èbd pyÈ kIqf sI "Audm krih anyk hir nfm n gfvhI…[]" (pMnf- 705) ies Èbd nfl juVy kuwJ svfl mYN ilKy sI AunHF df koeI jvfb nhIN afieaf.

mYN svfl puiCaf sI jy koeI bMdf njfieË qrIky nfl dOlq iekwTI krky aYÈ dI ijMdgI bsr krky dunIaf qoN qur jFdf hY qF aYsy ivakqI leI gurbfxI df kI Purmfn hY? afpInHy Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf] vzf hoaf dunIdfr……] ies df vI koeI jvfb nhIN afieaf.

qusIN iliKaf hY: "jsbIr isMG jI ieh vI ilK Glxf ik sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb df muK AudyÈ kI hY".

ijAuxvflf jI! mYN anpVH quwC buwDI df mfilk sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb dI PlOsPI bfry nhIN dws skdf. ies leI mYN muafPI cfhuMdf hF. hF pRo: sfihb isMG dy kIqy tIky aqy ivafiKaf dI shfieqf nfl jo kuwJ vI mYN smJ sikaf hF Auh iehI hY ik bMdf pRBU df nfm jpy (pRBU dy guxF bfry igafn hfsl kry, iekFq’ c bYT ky pRBU dy iksy nfm jF gurbfxI dy iksy Èbd jF quk nUM rtI jfxf nfm jpxf nhIN), pRBU dy guxf vrgf afpxf jIvn Zfly. mnuwKf jnm hI mukqI hfsl krn df smf hY ies mnuKf jnm ivwc mukqI hfsl krn df Aupfa kry, ies leI iksy iksm dy (bRhmxI) krm-kFzF dI jrUrq nhIN, gurmuKF vflf jIvn ijAux nfl jIv dI joqI pRBU dI joq ivwc smf jFdI hY, mukqI hfsl ho jFdI hY. Aus nUM muV jnm mrn dy gyV ivwc nhIN pYxf pYNdf. iesy leI gurmq iewk inrml aqy nvyklf pMQ hY. ikAuNik ies ivwc iksy iksm dy Aucyc dI loV nhIN aqy nf hI smf (iek imnt vI) aqy nf hI Dn (iek pYsf vI) brbfd krn dI jrUrq hY. isrP gurmuKF vflf jIvn ijAux dI jrUrq hY. ies dy Ault jy bMdf Aupr idwqy guxF df DfrxI nhIN bxdf aqy mnmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky dunIaF qoN qur jFdf hY qF mrn ipwCoN anykF jnmF ivwc anykF jUnF dy jnm mrn dy gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY.

ijAuxvflf jI! qusIN iliKaf hY: "qusIN (jfxI ik mYN) awj afpxf sfrf Ëor gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq df KMzx krdy hoey lokF nUM bRhmxI mwq df DfrnI bxfAux ivwc lf rhy ho".

ijAuxvflf jI! mYN gurbfxI dIaF qukF pyÈ krdf hF qF qusIN kih idMdy ho ik ienHF df arQ krn dI quhfnUM koeI jrUrq nhIN. arQfq qusIN cfhuMdy ho ik afpxIaF bx cuwkIaF DfrnfvF anusfr jubfnI jubfnI bihs krI jfeIey. gurbfxI jy iql GfxI pIVn dI gwl krdI hY qF qusIN kihMdy ho ik ipaf prmfqmf iql GfxI pIVI jfvy mYnUM kI? dUjy lÌËF ivwc gurbfxI jo mrËI khI jfey ies nfl quhfnUM kI? gurbfxI ivwc afvfgAux mMinaf igaf hY ijs bfry hjfrF hI AudfhrxF idqIaF jf skdIaF hn, pr qusIN afpxI bx cuwkI Dfrxf anusfr arQ bdl ky gurmq dy Ault ivcfrDfrf dy rhy ho. jdik hjfrF qukF dy mukfbly qusIN iewk vI aYsI Audfhrx pyÈ nhIN kIqI aqy nf hI kr skdy ho ijs ivwc sfP lPËF ivwc iliKaf hovy ik bMdf cfhy gurmuK hovy jF mnmuK ies nfl koeI Ìrk nhIN pYNdf mrn ipwCoN koeI punrip jnm nhIN huMdf. gurbfxI nUM qusIN afp nhIN mMndy, bRhmxvfd PYlfAux df doÈ qusIN myry qy lgf rhy ho. qusIN dws skdy ho ik mYN afpxI iks ilKq ivwc aqy ikhVf krm-kFz krn df iËkr kIqf hY? ijAuxvflf jI! s: mwKx isMG jI nyN gurbfxI ivcfr krn df mOkf idwqf hY ies df nfjfieË Pfiedf nf AuTfE. koeI kI hY jF kI nhIN ies bfry afpxy Ìqvy sunfAux dI bjfie isrÌ gurbfxI muqfbk afpxy ivcfr dy idaf kro jF dUsry dy ivcfr gurbfxI muqfbk glq vI iswD kr skdy ho pr TIk glq df PYslf pfTkF qy Cwz idE qF bVI imhrbfnI hovygI.

ijAuxvflf jI mYN quhfzy sfry svflF df jvfb dyx dI koiÈÈ kIqI hY. qusIN vI myry svflF dy jvfb dy idE qF imhrbfnI hovy gI. mYnUM kMm qoN bfad gurbfxI ivcfr leI bhuq QoVHf smf imldf hY ies leI jy myry vwloN kdy quhfzy pwqr df jvfb dyx ivwc dyr ho jfey qF nrfj nF hoxf jI. Bul cuk leI muafÌI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.

jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)

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qrlocn isMG (iPijks)

qrlocn isMG (iPijks)

0919888169226

sfrI sMgq nUM "vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]"

mYN bihs ivcoN iPlhfl bfhr hoxf hI munfisb smJdf hF. ikAuNik hux hwd hY: mYnUM iPr kdI Xfd krogy qF sMgq dy snmuK jrUr hfjr hovFgf. kuwJ sbdF nfl mYN hux quhfzy sB qoN ivdf hoxf cfhFgf. ies bihs dI aKIrlI icTI.

(1) mYnUM hmyÈf ies gl df duK rhygf ik myry nfl gurcrn isMG, gurdyv isMG swDyvflIaf, gurqyj isMG aqy kuwJ horF vloN jfqI ivqkrf kIqf igaf. kI myrf ksUr ieho sI ik mYN mhfjn hF? aOr mYN ieh jg jfihr kIqf. jy mYN vI afpxf nfm BfeI qrlocn isMG iliKaf huMdf qF aYnI hnyrI quPfn nhIN sI afAuxf. quPfn ies leI nhIN af irhf ik mYN afqmf nUM mMndf hF, mYN punr jnm nUM mMndf hF. ieh kuwJ qF hor bVy vIr mMndy hn aqy ilKdy hn. pr kdI AunHF nUM Eey qk iksy ny nhIN khI (myrf ieQy ieh mqlB nhIN ik AunHF nUM vI myry vFgUM jlIl kIqf jfey, myrf mksd kyvl aihsfs krvfAuxf hY) iksy nUM vI ieho ijhy lPË nhIN vrqy gey ijvyN gurcrn ny myry leI khy "ZONgI mhfjn/ bRfhmx, pfKMzI, ZogI, bRfhmx, 1008, ividaf mfrqMz, rYkI mstr, qrMgI mfstr, DoqI mfstr, momo Tgwxf qy lokF nUM puTy rfh pf ky gurU bfby nUM mdfrI bxfAux vfly mhfjn" gurqyj ny myrIaF ilKqF nUM XblIaF krfr idMdy hoey myry idmfg qvjum nUM Krfb dsdy hoey mYnUM agoN ilKx qoN rokxf cfihaf pr mYN zIT afpxy idl qy pwQr rwK ky iPr vI ilKdf clf igaf. afsUaF nUM afpxI JolI ivwc Cupfa jI jI krdf clf igaf. sfied ieh myrI Bul sI. gurcrn ny soicaf ik ieh mhfjn koeI monf-Gonf hY iesy mksd leI Aus ny imstr Gwgy nUM myrI prK leI Byijaf iPr mYnUM cor zfkU iswD krn leI myry nfm hyT afrtIkl Cpvfieaf ‘mhfjn dI aslIaq’ dUjIaF vYb-sftIaF qy myry nfm hyT mYnUM jlIl krn vfly hYizMg hyT afpxIaF icTIaF CpvfeIaF. ies qoN isD huMdf hY ik asIN dunIaF dy ivKfvy leI jfq afpxy nfvF mgr nhIN ilK rhy pr asIN 100% ienHF jfqF ivwc Psy hoey hF. jy mhfjn hY qF Aus nfl ivhfr hor iksm df jy koeI hor hY qF ivhfr iksy hor iksm df. gurcrn, gurdyv qy gurqyj vrgy dsm duafr nUM vI nhIN mMndy. pr bldyv isMG horF dIaF dsv duafr dIaF ilKqF qy iksy nUM vI ieqrfj nhIN hoieaf (myrf mksd ieh nhIN ik ieqrfj kIqf jfvy ikAuNik AunHF dI ikrq ivwc kuwJ vI ieqrfj krn Xog kuwJ vI nhIN sI). iPr hokf idqf jf irhf hY ik asIN pMQ dy dfs asIN gurmiq isDFqf dy rwKvfly. ijnHF dy idlF ivwc ajy qfeIN jfqF df ivqkrf bYTf hoieaf hY Auh ikvyN srBq df Blf soc skdy hn. pMzqF bRfhmxf aqy ihMdUaF nUM inMdx vfly ikAuN Bul jFdy hn ik tozr ml vI ihMdU sn. hr pMzq mfVf nhIN hr bRfhmx mfVf nhIN. asl ivwc ijsdy aml cMgy nhIN Auho mfVf hY Auh BfvyN iksy vI Drm df ikAuN nf hovy. gurU nfnk dyv jI ny ieho isDFq idqf ik ihMdU cMgf ik muslmfnoeI AuNnHF df Auqr sI ÈuB amlF bfjoN dovoN hI mfVy hn.

(2) bldyv isMG jI mYnUM hmyÈF leI duK rhygf ik qusIN aYnI ihMmq nf kIqI ik mYnUM swcf smJdy hoey vI inDVk ho ky swcf kih skdy. quhfizaF icTIaF qoN Bfv huMdf hY ik mYN jo kuwJ ilK irhf hF Auh ies leI ik mYN afpxy ihmfqIaF dI lfeInF lf skF aOr jy myry qoN ieho ijhf kuwJ ilK ho igaf qF myrIaF lfeInF CotIaF ho jfxgIaF. bldyv isMG jI qusIN mYNnUM pihcfxn ivwc Bul kr rhy ho. mYN ieQy koeI afpxf prcfr krn nhIN sI afieaf. ieh gurbfxI dI ivcfr crcf sI. kuwJ myry vFgUM socdy sn qy kuwJ nhIN. mYnUM koeI isLkvf nhIN ik myry nfl koeI hY ik nhIN. ieh ibnsxhfr dunIaf jy iml vI geI qF kI? aOr jy ieh dunIaf nf imlI qy qF vI kI? mYnUM duK dy nfl nfl KusLI vI hY ik ik myrIaF ilKqF ny kuwJ iewk nUM ies hwd qk JMJoiVaf ik Auh ilKx qy mjbUr ho gey ik mhfjn df idmfg Krfb hY.

(3) bldyv isMG sfieMs mfVI nhIN ieh sfieMs vI swc df Aujfgr hY. nvIaF KojF ivwc ÈUKsm lYvl qy pfrtIkl (jnyvf ivwc hox vfly LHC mÈIn dy irjlt) guMm ho jfxgy qy arbd nrbd DUMDkfr df Aujflf hovygf ies leI kdI vI iksy vI igafn nUM nf inMdxf. ijhVf igafn pRmfqmf dy igafn qy jf apVdf hY Auh igafn sfzy leI pUjx Xog hY.

(4) mYN qih idloN ardfs krFgf AunHF pUjxXog afqmfvF leI (nfvF qoN qusIN BlI BFq jfxU ho) ijnHF nUM swc dI soJI hoeI. aOr ies ivcfr crcf ivwc ijnHF ny inDVk ho ky swc df aqy myrf sfQ idqf.

(5) vIr pfl mYnUM qyry nfl koeI iglf iskvf nhIN. qUM myry Coty Brf vFgUM ivcfrF kIqIaF. ho skdf hY myry qoN vwD Gwt iliKaf igaf hovy ies leI Coty vIr mihsUs nf krIN. vizaF nUM QoVf bhuqf qF hwk huMdf hI hY CoitaF qy hukm culfAux df. vIr pfl vyK mYN hux afpxIaF icTIaF nfl mhfjn ilKxf vI Cwz idqf hY ieh qUM hI mYnUM slfh idqI sI. mYN qyrI slfh mMndy hoey hux jd vI kuwJ isK mfrg qy ilKFgf qF qrlocn isMG (iPijks) ilKFgf. nf ky qrlocn isMG mhfjn. nhIN qF suxnf pYNdf hY ZONgI mhfjn/ bRfhmx, pfKMzI, ZogI, bRfhmx, 1008, ividaf mfrqMz, rYkI mstr, qrMgI mfstr, DoqI mfstr, momo Tgwxf myrI aKIrlI alivdf ies bihs leI kbUl krIN.

(6) mwKx isMG jI jy mYN quhfzf DMnvfd nf krF qF ieh ijafdqI hovygI myry Aulty isDy ivcfrF kfrn quhfnUM vI Aucf nIvF suxnf pieaf ies df vI duK mYnUM hmyÈF rhygf. mYN qih idloN quhfzf DMnvfdI hF ik qusIN ibnf pwKpfq qoN myry ijhy pfgl dy ivcfrF nUM vI jgHf idqI

mYnUM ielm hY ik myry bihs qoN bfhr hox nfl gurcrn isMG kihxgy ik mhfjn pMzq doV igaf pr mYnUM ies dI prvfh nhIN. aKIr myrf ikhf suixaf muafP krnf. hux vylf ho cukf hY rusKq hox df qy afpf sMvfrx df ies leI alivdf. jy iksy nUM vI myrIaF iksy vI iksm dIaF ilKqF qoN Tys phuMcdI hY qF Auh myry ipafry vIr mwKx isMG jI nUM kih ky Auh ilKqF htvf vI skdy hn mYnUM koeI Aujr nhIN hovygf.

sB nUM myrI siq sR akfl.

qrlocn isMG (0919888169226)

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nrBY isMG (jrmnI)

ipafry isrdfr jIE,

vfhgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfhgurU jI kI Piqh.

afp jI axqwk myhnq krky ieh vYbsfeIt clf rhy ho eys afp DMnqf dy Xog ho. hmyÈf dI qRF isrdfr gurbcn isMG jI QfeIlYNz vfilaF df aimRq vylf lyK aiq imafrI sI. ijs vfsqy Auh DMnvfd dy pfqR hn.

akflpurK afp jI dovF nUM pirvfrF smyq qMrusqIaF aqy cVHdIaF klF ivwc rwKx ieh myrI smyq pirvfr dy idlI ardfs hY jI.

afp jI df snyhI

inrBY isMG (jrmnI)

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amirMdr isMG

Amanjit Singh Gill,

Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Wahe Guru Ji Ke Fathe,

I am sure you have read the article mentioned and written by Gursharan Singh Kesal about your previous question. Regarding this question about "Bhoot Pret", please read the article written by Avtar Singh Missionary. http://www.sikhmarg.com/2006/1203-bhoot-pret.html

Also, read Bhai Gurbakhash Singh Kala Afghana’s book. He talks about Bhoot Pret as well starting on page 22. http://www.kalaafghana.com/files/vol4.pdf

Regards,
Amrinder Singh

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Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ke Fathe,

Tarlochan Singh Mahajan ji,

In response to my letter you wrote:

"jdoN myrI bihs vIr pfl nfl cl rhI sI qusIN mwKx isMG jI nUM iliKaf sI ik bihs Kqm kr dyxI cfhIdI hY ‘I think you might need to intervene again or stop the discussion as it is tumbling down the wrong road again.’ qF iPr hux ikAuN qusIN ieh sB dubfrf krnI cfhuMdy ho?"

Very clever Mahajan ji, how naïve do you think the readers are. It seems like you have forgotten what you wrote not too long. Here it is:

myrf ikhf iliKaf sB muafP krnf. kuwJ dosqF ny gurbfxI nUM idloN smiJaf, AunHF leI bhuq bhuq DMnvfd. kuJ dosq sbdF dI jMg ivwc AulJy rhy. ies AulJx nUM mYN vI agy qordf clf igaf. muafP krnf. rwb AunHF sfiraF nUM sumiq dyvy. Auh vI sfzy vIr hn, cfhy QoVf koVy hn. pr iewk idn jrUr imTy hoxgy. smF iensfn nUM bdl idMdf hY. aMq mYN afpxy vIr jsbIr isMG jI dy khy qy Pul cVHf irhf hF ky ies bihs nUM ieQy hI Kqm kIqf jfvy.

What happened to your flowers? You said that this discussion should be stopped. I only requested Makhan Singh ji to intervene or to stop. Notice the OR in the sentence. Also notice the prefix of the sentence: I think. It was my opinion that the discussion was going the wrong direction. However, you stated to stop the discussion. You can say one thing and do another, but when someone else does it, it becomes a problem, especially since the other person disagrees with you and questions you.

Then you wrote,

KflI zbf lvo Aus nUM qolo, iPr Aus ivwc lfeIt afAux idE iPr Aus nUM qolo qy vyKo ik Bfr Different hoeygf. ivigafnI jI, pihlF ieh pRXog qusIN afp kr ky vyKxf iPr dsxf ik Bfr ivwc Prk pYNdf hY? . jy Bfr ivwc Prk pYNdf hY qF ikMny gRfm vwDdf hY. ilK Byjxf. ies qoN vwD idlcsp pRXog mYN ds dyNdf hF quhfnUM iksy sfeIt qoN lBx dI loV nhIN.

First of all, if I put an item on the scale and it reads 5 Kg. Does this mean the item weighs exactly 5Kg? No, it could be 4.99999 or even 5.00001 or even 5.000…01. Thus, your process is flawed because we do not have a scale that can measure to infinite digits. Last time I checked, the most is to a nanogram.

You also wrote: myrf suBfa hY mYN jd vI kuwJ ilKx lgdf hF, qF cfhuMdf hF ik spÈt ilKF pr hor df hor iliKaf jFdf hY, ieh myry vs dI gl nhIN. aOr mYN afpxf iliKaf afp nhIN imtfAuNdf. qfihAuN gurqyj isMG ny ikhf hY AunHF ny JUT nhIN iliKaf, TIk iliKaf hY. jy myrf idmfgI qvfjux TIk huMdf qF ikAuN mYN aYNnI anrjI qy afpxf smF pwky hoey GiVaF leI Krfb krdf (ijnHF qy rMg nhIN cV skdf, rMg kyvl kcy GiVaF qy cVdf hY) ijnHF ny aKIr sB kuwJ pVH ky kih dyxf hY ik sB XblIaF…

So do you admit that what you have written thus far is wrong? If so, then what is the big deal, the discussion should be over.

Regarding the color and pots, you are right baked pots can’t be colored, only unbaked can be colored. But also do not forget that colored pots can’t be colored.

rMgy kf ikaf rMgIaY jo rqy rMgu lfie jIAu ] (751) nfnk nfim rqy iqn sdf suKu pfieaf hoir mUrK kUik muey gfvfrf ]ó] (571)

You also wrote that: ijs nUM jo pqf hY Auho As ny swc smJ ilaf qy sfrI dunIaf nUM Auh Ausy qrHf clfAuxI cfhuMdf hY.

Are you exempt from this? Does this not apply to you?

Finally, you also wrote: qusIN afpxI icTI ivwc iliKaf sI ik mYN cItr hF qF hux qusIN ies cItr qoN kI afs rwKdy ho ieh vI ilK Byjxf…

I have said you are cheater because you do not answer the questions directly; instead try to change the issue. I am not alone, reread the letters, even Baldev Singh has said that you should answer the questions in his letter dated September 18, 2008.

However, if you answer my question I will change cheater to teacher. From a teacher I expect the questions to be answered. So let me make it easy for you. I will put the question again, in different wording because maybe my previous wording made it difficult since I did not get a response.

A child is born with a pure mind, as even stated by you. The parents name that child Gurcharan Singh Brar. He grows up, learns, fights, works, and argues with others. We all agree that no one lives forever. Thus, one day death comes. What happens next? Where does his soul go? If he is given life again, as a human or animal, is his mind pure? What are the factors which decide if he gets reincarnated? Who balances the checkbook? Where is that court located? You claim that rewards and punishment are given after life. So most important question is this: how will we know what happened? How will we know if he really gets punished for his bad deeds and gets rewarded for good deeds?

Please answer these questions directly and logically, instead of wandering off on tangents and wasting time.

Regards, Amrinder Singh

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srvjIq isMG

suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI aqy sfQIE

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

afp jI df pqwr pVH ky buhq hI hYrfnI hoeI hY ik afp jI ny hux ibnf iksy dlIl dy sfnUM hI bvfl KVHy krn vflf ilK idwqf hY. isKafrQI jI, pVHo afpxI 16 sqMbr vflf pwqr,

"qrlocn isMG dupflpur jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih.

avqfr isMG imÈnrI jI nUM myrI ‘pMjfb tfeImj’ qy ilwKI icwTI psMd nhI afeI qy Auh myry nfl sÉq nrfË jfpdy ny. bynqI hY ik qusIN myrI Auh icwTI iswK mfrg qy pfAux dI Kycl krogy jI qF jo duD df duD qy pfxI df pfxI ho sky?

myrI bynqI hY sfrI iswK-mfrg dI sMgq nUM ik agr icwTI pVn qo bfad sfzy ivwcoN (myry qy avqfr isMG imÈnrI ivwcoN) jo vI doÈI pfieaf jfvy Aus nUM sÉq qo sÉq sËf lfAux."

ieh pwqr quhfzf iliKaf hoieaf hY ijs rfhI qusI qrlocn isMG dupflpur nUM bynqI kIqI sI ik Auh quhfzy pwqr nUM iswK mfrg qy Cpvfey. jy afp df asl pwqr mY pfTkF dI jfxkfrI leI iswK mfrg qy Cpx leI Byj idwqf qF hux ieh bvfl ikvy bx igaf? kI hux afp df ieh Prj nhI sI bxdf ky afp jI mMgI geI jfxkfrI pfTkF nfl sFJI krdy? jy afp jI loVIdI jfxkfrI nhI idEgy qF ‘duD df duD qy pfxI df pfxI’ ikvy hovygf? ijnf icr qusI aqy quhfzy sfQI afpxf pwK pfTkF awgy pys nhI krdy qF avqfr isMG nUM sËf ikvy lfeI jF skdI hY?

afp jI dy bcn, "bVHf duK hoieaf ik myrI ilKq dI Bfvnf nUM smiJaf nhIN igaf."

vIr jI hyT ilKIaF pMgqIaF nUM iewk vyr Pyr pVHo qy dwso ik ieh iks ny ilKIaF sn? . "ijhVf iensfn mUl mMqr nUM smJ nhIN sikaf, pRo[ horF AunHF df vI afpxIaF ilKqF ivwc iËkr kIqf hY. idmfgI igafn hor cIË hY, pr Kflsf mn igafn gurU dI bKÈÈ hY. asIN pRo[ avqfr isMG horF nUM inmrqf sihq hOslf idMdy hF ik goibMd gurU df sunyhf Gr Gr phuMcfx leI kmrkwsy kr lAu, ikAuNik aKOqI imÈnrI vI pUhly qoN Gwt nhIN hn. QoVHf hI Prk hY." (http://ww2.punjabtimesusa.com/print/CH-PT2008-37.pdf ----Page 26)

inmrqf sihq bynqI hY ky afp jI mMgI geI jfxkfrI nUM pfTkF dI swQ ivwc pys kro qF jo shI inrnf kIqf jf sky jF ilKqI rUp ivwc afpxI Bul nUM svIkfr krdy hoey afpxy pwqr nUM vfps lYx df aYlfn kro jI.

iswK mfrg df iewk pfTk

srvjIq isMG

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amnjIq isMG igwl

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

smUh sMgq jI kI gurbfxI BUqF-pRyqF nUM mMndI hY ik nhIN. awgy jo gurbfxI Èbd ilKy hn, iehnF ivwc afey ‘BUq’ ‘pRyq’ ÈbdF dy kI arQ hn.

keI koit jKH ikMnr ipsfc]

keI koit BUq pRyq sUkr imRgfc] p L276

vIrvfir vIr Brim Bulfey]

pRyq BUq siB dUjy lfey] pM L841

kir ikrpf aMqir Aur Dfry]

psu pRyq muGd pfQr kAu qfrY] pM L274

amnjIq isMG igwl

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(20/09/08)
bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

pRo: qrlocn isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf

vfihgurU jI kI Piqh.

vIr jI mYN qF quhfnUM sfiraF nUM kihMdf hF ik bihs Cwzo, svflF df JgVf Cwzo, pr qusIN mYnUM vI svflF aqy bihs dy cwkr ivwc pfAuxF cfhuMdy ho.

vIr jI myry pwqrF nUM dubfrf iPr ivcfr ky dyiKaf jy, agr mYN koeI svfl kIqy vI hn qF Auh vI ies mksd nfl, ky donoN hI iDrF svflF df JgVf Cwzo. gurU nfnk dy AupdyÈ nUM smJO, jF sfry hI smJIey aqy Kud aml vI krIey, aqy dUsiraF nUM vI smJfeIey.

vIr jI, myrI qF koiÈÈ sI sulhf sPfeI krvfAux dI, aqy JgVf mukfAux dI, pr myrI koiÈÈ nUM qusF hor hI pfsy qor idwqf hY. imsfl dy qOr qy hux mYN quhfnUM iPr iewk svfl krn lwgf hF, pr ieh quhfzI prK lYx vfsqy nhIN, quhfnUM swc df aihsfs krvfAux vfsqy hY. ky quhfnUM svfl krn ipwCy myrI kI BfvnF sI.

kI qusIN gurU nfnk jI dy AupdyÈ jF isKmwq nUM jfxdy ho? jy jfxdy ho qF gurU nfnk df AupdyÈ jF iswKmwq kI hY? .

vIr jI ieh qF koeI aOKf svfl nhIN hY. aqy koeI burf svfl vI nhIN hY. aqy afpF sfry hI kihMdy hF, ky asIN qF jI gurU nfnk dy AupdyÈ nUM Gr Gr phucfAux vfsqy ieh kMm krdy hF.

qusIN myrf ieÈfrf nhIN smJy, myry qoN pihlF vI keI vIr bihs aqy svflF dy JgVy nUM Kqm krn dI bynqI kr cuwky hn, jF suJf dy cuky hn. aqy mYN vI kfPI dyr bfd òõ agsq nUM ilKy afpxyN pihly pwqr ivwc vI ieho hI bynqI kIqI sI. Aus qoN bfd ilKy sfry pwqrF ivwc vI mY bihs Kqm krn dI hI gwl qy jor idMdf irhf hF, quhfzy pfs keI mOky afey sn, bihs Kqm krn dy jF bihs ivcoN inklx dy, pr qusIN nhIN inkly. myrf iKafl hY quhfzy sfry hm ivcfr vIrF nUM ies df jrUr duwK hoieaf hovygf. mYnUM vI hoieaf sI, ikAuN ky mYN vI ies bihs nUM Kqm krn dy hwk ivwc hF. so ies vfsqy mYN quhfnUM ieh aihsfs krvfAux vfsqy ieh gwl ilKI sI, ky vIr jI quhfzI iksy CotI ijhI glqI nfl…. mYN qF afpxyN vwloN quhfzy Bly dI hI socI sI.

vIr jI myrf ies qoN aglf kMm srdfr gurcrn isMG jI nfl slfh mÈvrf kr ky ies bihs nUM Kqm krnF sI. aqy ieh koeI mfVI gwl nhIN hY. pr qusIN mYnUM afpxy vwl moV ilaf. hux quhfzy svflF dy AuWqr vI qF dyxyN hI pYxgy.

vIr jI, quhfzI QF mYN srdfr gurqyj isMG jI nUM aqy srdfr grcrn isMG jI nUM vI toikaf, jid ky quhfnUM qF isrP suJfAu hI idwqf, aqy bynqI hI kIqI hY. AuhnF qF myrI gwl qy ieqrfj vI jfhr nhIN kIqf. pr vIr jI qusIN myry pfsoN PYsly mMgn lwg pey…. vIr jI kwt pyst kIqy agly do pihiraF nUM iPr iDafn nfl pVHo.

srdfr qrlocn isMG jI, inrfs nF hovo, gurcrn isMG jI, quhfzf Brf hY, aqy gurqyj isMG jI vI quhfzf vIr hY. iehnF nyN jF iksy nyN vI quhfzy pRqI koeI mfVy Èbd khy hn, qF qusIN gurmuKF dI qrF, guriswKF dI qrF, hws ky AuhnF nUM jr lvo jI. guriswK duwK ivwc duKI nhIN huMdf, suK ivwc glqfn nhIN huMdf. KuÈI hovy jF gmIN, Ausqq hovy jF inMdf, nUM iewk smfn jfxdf hY. jo kuwJ qusF nyN sihx kIqf hY, ies nUM gurU nfnk dI syvf dI ieh iewk CotI ijhI kurbfnIN smJ lvo jI. mYN iehnF swB vIrF dI qrPoN quhfzy pfsoN muafPI mMgdf hF jI. qusIN vI iehnF swB afpxyN vIrF nUM mfP kr dyvo jI. iKmF iswKI df gihxF hY, ipafr aqy iKmF df iÈgfr muwK iÈMgfr hY pqI prmfqmF nUM KuÈ krn df. jy pqI KuÈ ho igaf qF swB kuwJ iml igaf.

srdfr qrlocn isMG jI, afE afpF sR: gurqyj isMG jI dy hukm jF suJfE nUM mMn ky ies bihs nUM Kqm krIey. aqy ijs qrF mYN vIr gurcrn isMG jI nUM vI byNnqI kr cuwkf hF, vIr jI afpF hux ieh svflF vflI bihs nUM, svflF vfly JgVy nUM CwzIey, aqy asl ivÈy qy ivcfr krIey. so myrI bynqI agr mMnoN qF ieh ivigafn duafrf iksy vI ruhfnIN gwl nUM iswD krn df ivcfr ikrpf kr ky iqafg dyvo jI. ikAuNky ivigafn qF lPË hI igafn dy Ault hY. iv+ igafn. ijvyN ky gux aqy vygux (bygux) vy+ gux. so vIr jI afE ivigafn nUM CwzIey aqy gurU nfnk dy igafn nUM apnfeIey. afpF nUM ivigafn nhIN igafn dI jrUrq hY.

vIr jI AUprly pihry dI swB qoN hyTlI aqy AUprlI lfl rMg dI lfeIn nUM iDafn nfl pVHo agr qusIN myrI eynI kU bynqI nUM nhIN mMn sky, qF myry kIqy PYNsly nUM kI mMnoN gy. aqy awgy qoN mYN quhfnUM ikvyN kih swkdf hF, ky vIr jI afAu afpF ies bihs nUM CwzIey. pr nhIN vIr jI mYN quhfnUM bfr bfr khF gf vI, aqy bfr bfr bynqI vI krFgf.

aqy jo mYN quhfnUM ivigafn Cwzx bfry bynqI kIqI sI. gurU nfnk dyv jI vI afpxIN bfxIN duafrf smJfAuNdy hn

muMdRf Ptk bnfeI kfin] mukiq nhI ibidaf ibigafin] (ùúó)

iksy vI qrF dI ividaf (sfieNs vI qF ividaf hI hY) jF jo vI afqimk sUJ ibnf iksy vI qrF df igafn hY. ies nfl mukq nhIN ho swkdI. vIr jI kI sfieNs ivwc afqimk igafn hY?

vIr jI ieh qusIN PYNsly vflI gwl vI KUb khI. afpF iswK mfrg dy sfry pfTk lyKk iewk sMgq vI hF, iewk prIvfr vI hF, aqy kih swkdy hF, ik asIN iewk pry pMcfieq vI hF. prHy ivwc PYslf sfrI pMcfieq kr swkdI hY, iksy vI iekwly df kIqf PYslf nhIN cwldf. swcI gwl prHy ivwc koeI vI kih swkdf hY. swcI gwl kihxIN hor hY aqy PYslf krnF hor huMdf hY. quhfnUM qF mYN swcf vI kih idwqF pr srdfr gurcrn isMG jI nUM qF mYN ajy swcf vI nhIN ikhf.

pr vIr jI swcf quhfnUM mYN ies krky ikhf ky jo qusIN kihMdy ho Auh TIk hY. pr kihMdy qF pVH pVfky hI ho nF. aqy swc nUM sfbq nF kr skx df mqlb hY ky qusIN gurcrn isMG jI nUM qF afpxIN scfeI nfl sihmq nhIN nF krf sky. myry jF pfTkF dI sihmqI nfl kI Prk. ivcfr qF gurcrn isMG jI nfl ho irhf hY. myrI bynqI qF ieh hY ik qusI iksy Tos aDfr jF ivcfr nfl AuhnF nUM kfiel kro. jy mYN quhfnUM ivcfr dI gwl dwsI qF Aus df vI qusF imhxF ijhf bnf ilaf. jdoN ky ieho hI svfl pihly mYN srdfr gurcrn isMG jI smyq iqMnF vIrF nUM vI kr cuwkf sI.

vIr jI qusF myry pfsoN PYsly dI mMg kIqI hY, qF vIr jI suxoN jI, mYN gurU nfnk dyv jI nUM kot kot dMzvq krdf hF, ieh PYslf AuhnF dI bfxIN df hY myrf nhIN.

koeI swcf nhIN, koeI JUTf nhIN, sfry hI swcy hn, sfry hI JuTy hn. koeI vI burf nhIN, (bfxIN ivwc ieh swB smJfieaf hoieaf hY vkq dI kmI krky nfl bfxIN dIaF kVIaF df hvflf nhIN dy swkdf so muafP krnF jI, pr sfry hI vIr jfxdy hn, ik bfxIN ivwc aYsf swB iliKaf hoieaf hY.) aqy sfrf hI sMsfr hI burf hY, awnHF hY, aMDf jgq aMDu vrqfrf, mflk iewk iCx ivwc mUrK nUM igafnIN, igafnIN nUM mUrK, aqy aMDy nUM iewk iCx ivwc iqRBvx dI soJI krvf swkdf hY. rfjy nUM BIK mgf swkdf hY, mMgqy nUM rfj gwdI qy ibTf swkdf hY. nyk nUM Auh Twg bnf swkdf hY. aqy Twg nUM iewk iCx ivwc sfDU bnf swkdf hY. dwso vIr jI mYN iks nUM glq afKF. aqy iks nUM JUTf afKF,

asl gwl qF ieh hY ky iksy vI iensfn dy kuwJ vI vws nhIN hY. agr asIN iksy dI mdd vI krnI cfhIey qF ieh bhuq aOKf kMm hY. blik Aultf hI pYNdf hY. gurU nfnk dyv jI qF srv smrwQ sn. vyKo AuhnF nUM vI kYsy hflfqF df sfhmxF krnF ipaf.

qusF iliKaf hY

bldyv isMG jI swc nUM swc sfbq krn dI kI loV hY? . rwb hY ieh iewk swc hY qF kI iPr rwb nUM sfbq krnf hoeygf? jy swc nUM vI sbUq dyxy pYx qF iPr Auh swc hI ikhf! hF ieh klXug hY ijQy hr swc df iemiqhfn ilaf jFdf hY iPr Aus dI sihmqI idqI jFdI hY qF Auh pRvfn huMdf hY nhIN qF Aus swc nUM JUT dy Zyr qy sut idqf jFdf hY ijvyN ik afm mnuwKI adflqF ivwc huMdf hY.

vIr jI iblkul TIk, rwb hY ieh swc hY, pr ieh vI qF asIN pwVH pVHf ky sux suxf ky hI kihMdy hF. kI kwl nUM jF iCx pl ivwc Auh quhfnUM sfnUM jF iksy nUM vI nfsqk (jo kihMdy hn rwb nhIN hY) nhIN bnf swkdf? . qusIN qF punr jnm ivwc ivÈvfs rwKdy ho (mYN vI rwKdf hF ikAuN ky gur bfxIN ivwc vI iliKaf hY) kI agly jnm ivwc Auh sfnUM nfsiqk nhIN bnf swkdf? . agr mfilk quhfnUM jF sfnUM agly jnm ivwc nfsiqk bnf dyvy qF kI krFgy? . jF ky asIN agly jnm ivwc nfsiqk nhIN bn swkdy? . agr asIN cfhuMdy hF ky asIN agly jnm ivwc nfsiqk nF bxIeyN qF sfnUM kI krnF pvygf? rhI gwl rwb bfry sbUq dyx dI, vIr jI rwb vI hY, pr rwb bfry qusIN kI jfxdy ho? rwb kI hY, kI qusIN Aus bfry kuwJ smJf swkdy ho? .

vIr jI hux iehnF nUM isrP svfl hI nF smJ lYxF iehnF gwlF ivwc quhfzy aqy swB dy smJx hyq bhuq kuwJ hY. iehnF gwlF df ivcfr krnF jI.

vIr jI mYN iPr vI sulhf sPfeI aqy bihs Kqm krvfAux dI koiÈÈ krFgf jI.

quhfzf vIr

bldyv isMG (iProËpur)

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

jsvIr isMG kYligrI jI. gur Pqih prvfn krnI.

myry do lyK iesy ‘iswK mfrg’ qy ‘punrp jnm nf hoeI’ sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI horF lfey hoey hn. gurbfxI muqfbk sfP nËr afAuNdf hY ik ies jnm qoN bfad iesy bMdy df iksy hor jnm `c pYx df iksy nUM koeI pqf nhIN qy ieh sfrI kfZ bRfhmx dI hY. jy qusIN jIv afqmf nUM iql GfxI pIVn dI gwl krdy ho qF ipaf pRmfqmf GfxI pIVy ikAuNik afqmf qF hY hI prmfqmf df ihsf. myrf qF ÈrIr sI qy Auh sfV ky Kqm kr idwqf igaf jF pMj qwqF ivwc pMj qwq iml gey. mYNnUM kI? ‘Reincarnation’ vI bRfhmx dI kfZ hY. iesy krky hI sfry avqfr ivsnUM dI iPr qoN pYdf hoeI joq smJI jFdI hY. gurbfxI iesdf vI KMzn krdI hY. jy jIv afqmf mMn leIey, punr jnm mMn leIey qF bMdf zr dy cwkr qoN mukq ho hI nhIN skdf qy iehI ZONgI mhfjn/ bRfhmx jI ilK rhy hn. iPr ieh dwso ik ‘mfiraf iskf jgiq ivic nfnk inrml pMQu clfieaf’ df koeI mqlb rih jFdf hY?

mYnUM quhfzIaF ilKIaF pMgqIaF dy arQ krn dI loV ies krky nhIN ikAuNik mYN quhfnUM puwC irhf hF ik ‘agY’ df mqlb agly jnm ivwc kuwJ vfprn nfl ikvyN sbMiDq hY?

mfJ mhlf 4] hir gur igafnu hir rsu hir pfieaf] mnu hir rMig rfqf hirrsu pIafieaf] hir hir nfmu muiK hir hir bolI mnu hirris tuil tuil pAudf jIAu] 1] afvhu sMq mY gil mylfeIaY] myry pRIqm kI mY kQf suxfeIaY] hir ky sMq imlhu mnu dyvf jo gurbfxI muiK cAudf jIAu] 2] vzBfgI hir sMqu imlfieaf] guir pUrY hirrsu muiK pfieaf] BfghIn siqguru nhI pfieaf mnmuK grB jUnI iniq pAudf jIAu] 3] afip dieafil dieaf pRiB DfrI] mlu hAumY ibiKaf sB invfrI] nfnk ht ptx ivwc kFieaf hir lYNdy gurmuiK sAudf jIAu] 4] 5] {pMnf 95}

ies sfry slok ivwc BivKq kfl dI gwl nhIN qy mnmuK dy grB ivwc hr roj pYx dI gwl kIqI geI hY ies krky ieh svfl KVf kIqf igaf sI ik ieh dwso mnmuK hr roj mF dy grB ivwc ikvyN pYNdf hY?

myrf EhI svfl iPr qoN hY ik "ikQY jfih smfhI" vflIaF pMgqIaF ivwc iks awKr df mqlb jIv afqmf hY?

gurbfxI df BgvF krn qy jor nf idE. gurU nfnk sfihb df sfrf jor bRfhmxI krm kFZ nUM afpxy Gr coN bfhr kwzx qy lwgf qy qusIN awj afpxf sfrf jor gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq df KMzn krdy hoey lokf nUM bRhmfxI mwq dy DfrnI bxfAux ivwc lf rhy ho jF gurU nfnk sfihb dy zr `c vfVn qy lf rhy ho.

jy nfm jpx nfl koeI qrMgF inkldIaF hn qF isrP mhfjn dy ÈrIr ivcoN hI ikAuN inkldIaF hn qy Ausdy ividafrQIaF qy hI ikAuN asr krdIaF hn Auh myry qy kYnyzf `c bYTy qy asr ikAuN nhIN krdIaF? ikAuNik mhfjn jI JUT boldy hn. ienHF df pRo[ Gwgf jI qy kol bYTx qy vI asr nhIN hoieaf. ho skdf hY ik aYsIaF qrMgf df ienHF dy afpxy Gr dy jIaF qy vI asr nf huMdf hovy?

sfry gurU sihbfn ny kI bRfhmx/mhfjn nfloN nfm Gwt jwipaf sI? jy nhIN qF gurU sfihbfn dy afpxy bwcy AunHF dy hukm nuM ikAuN nhIN mMndy?

sR[ jsvIr isMG jI ieh vI ilK Gwlxf ik sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb df muwK Audys kI hY?

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

pRo[ qrlocn isMG mhfjn jI nUM kuwJ hor svfl.

mhfjn jI qusIN ilKdy ho ik kuwwJ afqmfvF pihlF sfP huMdIaF hn qy iPr mYlIaF ho jFdIaF hn. ijvyN qusIN bwcy dI Audfhrx idwqI sI. qusIN ieh nhIN iliKaf ik mYlI afqmf iknHI ku mYlI huMdI hY qy iksy nUM ikvyN pqf cwldf hY ik ieh afqmf mYlI hY? mMn lE ik pUhly vfly inhMg dI afqmf mYlI ho geI. ies krky mYlI afqmf qF pivqr rwb jI ivwc kdMq vI nhIN iml skdI? ies afqmf df kI kIqf jfvygf? dUjy pfsy gurbfxI ieh kihMdI hY ik hm rfm kI aMs hF qy ieh afmqf iPr qoN quhfzy muqfbk mry pRfxI dy ÈrIr ivcoN inkl ky rwb jI ivwc pRvys krdI hY. jF rwb jI ivwc pRvyÈ krn qoN pihlf hI pUhly vfly inhMg dI afqmf iPr qoN iksy hor ÈrIr ivwc pRvyÈ kr jfvygI?

sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc 12 vfrIN lPË ‘afqmf’ afAuNdf hY qy iksy iewk QF vI ieh mqlb nhIN inkldf ik mry ÈrIr ivcoN afqmf inkl ky Drm rfie kol ihsfb ikqfb, lyKf-joKf krvfAux jFdI hY qy pMizq mhfjn jI kol bYT ky QoVf dyx lYx vI krvf idMdy hn.

isrIrfgu mhlf 3] hir jI scf scu qU, sBu ikCu qyrY cIrY. lK cAurfsIh qrsdy iPry, ibnu gur Byty pIrY] hir jIAu bKsy bKis ley, suK sdf srIrY] gur prsfdI syv krI scu gihr gMBIrY] 1] mn myry, nfim rqy suKu hoie] gurmqI nfmu slfhIaY dUjf avru nf koie] 1] rhfAu] Drmrfie no hukmu hY bih scf Drmu bIcfir] dUjY Bfie dustu afqmf Ehu qyrI srkfr] aiDafqmI hir guxqfsu min jpih eyk murfir] iqn kI syvf Drmrfie krY DMnu svfrxhfru] 2] mn ky ibkfr mnih qjY, min cukY mohu aiBmfnu] afqmrfmu pCfixaf shjy nfim smfnu] ibnu siqgur muikq n pfeIaY mnmuiK iPry idvfnu] sbdu nf cInY, kQnI bdnI kry, ibiKaf mfih smfnu] 3] sBu ikCu afpy afip hY dUjf avru nf koie] ijAu bolfey iqAu bolIaY jf afip bulfey soie] gurmuiK bfxI bRhmu hY sbid imlfvf hoie] nfnk nfmu smfil qU ijqu syivaY suKu hoie] 4] 30] 63] {pMnf 38-39}

ies slok ivwc qF gurU sihbfn ny ihMdUaF dy Drm rfie nUM swc nfl juVn vfly dI syvf krn leI KVf kr idwqf hY. afqmf df mqlb mrn qoN bfad ÈrIr ivcoN inklx vflI iksy cIË df nfm ikvyN krogy?

slok m: 3] afqmf dyAu pUjIaY, gur kY shij suBfie] afqmy no afqmy dI pRqIiq hoie, qf Gr hI prcf pfie] afqmf azolu n zoleI, gur kY Bfie suBfie] gur ivxu shju n afveI, loBu mYlu n ivchu jfie] iKnu plu hir nfmu min vsY, sB aTsiT qIrQ nfie] scy mYlu n lgeI, mlu lfgY dUjY Bfie] DoqI mUil n AuqrY, jy aTsiT qIrQ nfie] mnmuK krm kry ahMkfrI, sB duKo duKu kmfie] nfnk mYlf AUjlu qf QIaY, jf siqgur mfih smfie] 1] {pMnf 87}

ies slok ivwc afqmf df mqlb mnuwKI ÈrIr Kqm hox qoN bfad inklx vflI iksy ÈY qoN nhIN.

sloku] durmiq hrI syvf krI Byty sfD ikRpfl] nfnk pRB isAu imil rhy ibnsy sgl jMjfl] 12] pAuVI] duafdsI dfnu nfmu iesnfnu]  hir kI Bgiq krhu qij mfnu] hir aMimRq pfn krhu sfD sMig] mnu iqRpqfsY kIrqn pRB rMig] koml bfxI sB kAu sMqoKY] pMc BU afqmf hirnfm ris poKY] gur pUry qy eyhu inhcAu pfeIaY] nfnk rfm rmq iPir join n afeIaY] 12] {pMnf 299}

ies slok ivwc vI afqmf iksy ÈrIr ivcoN mrn qoN bfad inklx vflI iksy ÈY df nfm nhIN.

mÚ 2] eyk ik®snµ srb dyvf dyv dyvf q afqmf] afqmf bfsudyvis´ jy ko jfxY ByAu] nfnku qf kf dfsu hY soeI inrMjn dyAu] 3] {pMnf 469}

pd arQ : —eyk ikRsnM—iek prmfqmf. srb dyv afqmf—sfry dyviqaF df afqmf. dyv dyvf afqmf—dyviqaF dy dyviqaF df afqmf. q—BI. vfsdyv— (ijvyN Èbd ‘ikRÈn’ df arQ ‘prmfqmf’ BI hY, iqvyN ‘ikRÈn’ jI df ieh nfm BI ‘prmfqmf’ arQ ivwc hI lYxf hY) prmfqmf. bfsudyvis´—prmfqmf df. bfsudyvis´ afqmf—pRBU df afqmf. inrMjn—aMjn (Bfv, mfieaf rUp kflK) qoN rihq hrI. 3[

arQ : —iek prmfqmf hI sfry dyviqaF df afqmf hY, dyviqaF dy dyviqaF df BI afqmf hY. jo mnuwK pRBU dy afqmf df Byd jfx lYNdf hY, nfnk Aus mnuwK df dfs hY, Auh prmfqmf df rUp hY. 3[

gUjrI mhlf 3 pMcpdy] nf kfsI miq AUpjY nf kfsI miq jfie] siqgur imilaY miq AUpjY qf ieh soJI pfie] 1] hir kQf qUM suix ry mn sbdu mMin vsfie] ieh miq qyrI iQru rhY qF Brmu ivchu jfie] 1] rhfAu] hir crx irdY vsfie qU iklivK hovih nfsu] pMcBU afqmf vis krih qf qIrQ krih invfsu] 2] mnmuiK iehu mnu mugDu hY soJI ikCU n pfie] hir kf nfmu n buJeI aMiq gieaf pCuqfie] 3] iehu mnu kfsI siB qIrQ isimRiq siqgur dIaf buJfie] aTsiT qIrQ iqsu sMig rhih ijn hir ihrdY rihaf smfie] 4] nfnk siqgur imilaY hukmu buiJaf eyku visaf min afie] jo quDu BfvY sBu scu hY scy rhY smfie] 5] 6] 8] {pMnf 491}

afqmf df mqlb mnuwKI soc qoN hY. soc kolU ivwc pIVI nhIN jf skdI. soc nUM sjf nhIN idwqI jf skdI. soc mYlI ho jFdI hY mYlI soc nUM hI mnuwK ny sfP krnf hY.

DnfsrI mhlf 1] ndir kry qf ismiraf jfie] afqmf dRvY rhY ilv lfie] afqmf prfqmf eyko krY] aMqr kI duibDf aMqir mrY] 1] gur prsfdI pfieaf jfie] hir isAu icqu lfgY iPir kflu n Kfie] 1] rhfAu] sic ismiraY hovY prgfsu] qf qy ibiKaf mih rhY Audfsu] siqgur kI aYsI vizafeI] puqR klqR ivcy giq pfeI] 2] aYsI syvku syvf krY] ijs kf jIAu iqsu afgY DrY] sfihb BfvY so prvfxu] so syvku drgh pfvY mfxu] 3] siqgur kI mUriq ihrdY vsfey] jo ieCY soeI Plu pfey] sfcf sfihbu ikrpf krY] so syvku jm qy kYsf zrY] 4] Bniq nfnku kry vIcfru] sfcI bfxI isAu Dry ipafru] qf ko pfvY moK duafru] jpu qpu sBu iehu sbdu hY sfru] 5] 2] 4] {pMnf 661}

jy iksy mnuwK dI soc qy dUsry dI soc iewk ho jfvy qF vwKryvf Kqm ho jFdf hY.

kilpqru rog ibdfru, sMsfr qfp invfru, afqmf iqRibiD, qyrY eyk ilv qfr] khu kIriq klshfr, spq dIp mJfr, lhxf jgqR guru pris murfir] 3] (pMnf 1391)

pd arQ: — kilpqru—klp ruwK, mno-kfmnF pUrIaF krn vflf ruwK. (sMsikRq dy ivdvfnF ny mMinaf hY ik ieh ruwK ieMdR dy sÍrg ivwc hY. vyKo, afsf dI vfr stIk, pAuVI 13, ‘pfirjfqu’ ). rog ibdfru—rogF ƒ dUr krn vflf. sMsfr qfp invfru—sMsfr dy qfpF df invfrn vflf. afqmf iqRibiD—iqMnF iksmF vfly (Bfv, iqMnF guxF ivwc vrqn vfly) jIv, sMsfrI jIv. qyrY—qyry ivwc (hy gurU aMgd!). eyk ilv qfr—iewk-rs ilv lfeI rwKdy hn. 3[

arQ: — (hy gurU aMgd!) qUM klp ruwK hYN, rogF dy dUr krn vflf hYN, sMsfr dy duwKF ƒ inivrq krn vflf hYN. sfry sMsfrI jIv qyry (crnF) ivwc iewk-rs ilv lfeI bYTy hn. hy kl´shfr! afK— ‘murfrI-rUp jgq-gurU (nfnk dyv jI) ƒ prs ky (aYsy gurU aMgd) lhxy dI soBf swqF dIpF ivwc PYl rhI hY’. 3[

mnmuK nfmu n cyqnI ibnu nfvY duK roie] afqmf rfmu n pUjnI dUjY ikAu suKu hoie] hAumY aMqir mYlu hY sbid n kfZih Doie] nfnk ibnu nfvY mYilaf muey, jnmu pdfrQu Koie] 20] mnmuK boly aMDuly iqsu mih agnI kf vfsu] bfxI suriq n buJnI sbid n krih pRgfsu] Enf afpxI aMdir suiD nhI gur bcin n krih ivsfsu] igafnIaf aMdir gur sbdu hY inq hir ilv sdf ivgfsu] hir igafnIaf kI rKdf hAu sd bilhfrI qfsu] gurmuiK jo hir syvdy jn nfnku qf kf dfsu] 21] (pMnf 1415)

arQ: — hy BfeI! prmfqmf dy nfm qoN KuMiJaf hoieaf mnuwK (sdf afpxy) duwK Proldf rihMdf hY. afpxy mn dy ipwCy qurn vfly mnuwK prmfqmf df nfm nhIN ismrdy, srb-ivafpk pRBU dI BgqI nhIN krdy. (Blf) mfieaf dy moh ivwc (Psy rih ky AuhnF ƒ) suK ikvyN ho skdf hY? AuhnF dy aMdr hAumY dI mYl itkI rihMdI hY ijs ƒ Auh gurU dy Èbd dI rfhIN (afpxy aMdroN) Do ky nhIN kwZdy. hy nfnk! nfm qoN vFjy hoey mnuwK kImqI mnuwKf jnm gvf ky ivkfrF dI mYl nfl Bry rihMdy hn, qy afqmk mOq shyVI rwKdy hn. 20[

sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc lPË ‘afqmf’ ienHF Aupr ilKy slokF ivwc hI afieaf hY qy iksy iewk slok ny pfKMzI, ZogI, bRfhmx, 1008, ividaf mfrqMz, rYkI mstr, qrMgI mfstr, DoqI mfstr, momo Tgwxf qy lokF nUM puTy rfh pf ky gurU bfby nUM mdfrI bxfAux vfly mhfjn df pwK nhIN pUiraf. bMdy dy mrn AuprMq ies ÈrIr ivcoN koeI afqmf inkl ky iksy asmfn ivwc bYTy Drm rfj nUM ihsfb ikqfb dyx nhIN jFdI. DMnvfd.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

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{not:- ipCly hor pwqr pVHn leI aYro (qIr) nUM kilk kro jI}

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