(31/12/08)
gurdyv isMG iswDu
‘ikqfb
hflYNz dy iswK’ aYqvfr 4 jnvrI 2009 nUM sfAUQfl ivwc irlIË hovygI
s[ BUipMdr isMG ilKq ikqfb
‘iswKË afÌ hflYNz’ 4 jnvrI 2009 dy idn sfAUQfl (ieMglYNz) ivwc irlIË kIqI
jfvygI. irlIË df smF hY dupihr sfZy iqMn vjy.
irlIË rsm iswK imÈnrI sosifetI, ÌYdrston roz, sfAUQfl ivwc hovygI. ieh jgfh
hYvlfk gurduafrf dy bhuq nyVy hY.
ies mOky qy bhuq sfry ivdvfn, kvI, kimAUintI afgU qy hor swjx hfËir hoxgy. afp
sB nUM ies ivwc Èfiml hox vfsqy hfridk swdf idwqf jFdf hY.
(30/12/08)
jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf
S Jasbir Singh Ji
Thanks for your reply.
So far we have been answering each others
’
questions and the same questions are being repeated by both of us every time.
And it can go on and on for ever with no result in sight. This shows that either
we are not honest to each other or we are talking about different things. I am
sure you will agree with me that in any discussion it is very important that we
keep focused on the main issue and talk about the same thing. It was for this
reason that I paraphrased your views (as I understood it from your emails and
articles); and then I asked you to confirm if what I am saying is correct or
not. After getting your confirmation, I responded back saying that in my opinion
the theory of incarnation/transmigration proposed by you is based on some
assumptions that contradict basic principles of Gurmat. If any one of these
assumptions is wrong, then the whole theory collapses. This is the accepted
principle everywhere in the world. Your current response shows that you have no
answer to these contradictions. Given below are the contradictions pointed out
by me and your responses to those contradictions. I have added my comments in
italics stating why your answers are off the mark.
1 My Question: This theory assumes that each person has
something that outlives the death of a person and passes on to another life.
Sikhism clearly states that at the time of death all elements go back where they
come from and nothing has come from anywhere at the time birth and nothing goes
out at the time of death. And I quoted verse from page 885 of GGS.
Your Response:
jrnYl isMG jI! ies Èbd ivwc iliKaf hY pvnY mih pvnu smfieaf
arQfq svfs hvf ivwc rl gey. mftI mftI hoeI eyk arQfq sfry qwq, qwqF ivwc iml
gey. qusIN iliKaf hY ik mOq ho jfx qy srIr dy qwqF qoN ibnF hor kuwJ vI ikqy
nhIN jFdf. qF Pyr joqI mih joiq ril jfieaf df kI arQ hoieaf? qusIN iliKaf hY ik
jnm vyly ienHF qwqF qoN isvfie hor kuwJ vI ikqoN nhIN afAuNdf. pr gurU sfihb qF
kihMdy hn:
“ey srIrf myiraf
hir qum mih joiq
rKI qf qU jg mih afieaf]” (pMnf- 921). ieQy qwqF
dy bxy srIr qoN ibnF ies ivwc joq rwKx df vI ijkr kIqf igaf hY.
jy qwqF qoN ibnf jIv dy srIr ivwc hor kuwJ vI nhIN huMdf qF,
(iksy jIv qoN
Living organism
ley
ibnF) loVINdI mfqrf ivwc jo jo qwq cfhIdy hn DrqI qoN lY ky (ibnf
Surrogated mother dI shfieqf
ley) lbotrI ivwc jIv pYdf kIqf jf skxf cfhIdf hY. kI ies qrHF sMBv hY?
Comments: S Jasbir Singh Ji, here we are discussing whether
at the time of death any part of a person outlives his/her death to be passed on
to another life for the same person. Guru clearly says in the verse quoted by me
that at the time of death all the five elements go back to their original
source. You are asking me the meaning of jyot merging with the jyot. Jyot is one
of the five elements and like others it also merges back with its original
source. Your remarks about creating of life in laboratory are out of context
here. Is there any verse in GGS that says that there is something other than
these five elements (soil,water, fire, air, consciousness or jyot) that cheats
death and does not merge with the original source?In case you do not have any
proof from GGS that shows that something outlives the death of a person then
this theory is wrong.
2. My question: This theory assumes that the soul of each
person has a unique and separate entity. This separate entity migrates from one
birth to another accumulating its Karmas. However Gurmat says in clear terms
that same Jot gives life to every single thing in this universe. Kabeer calls it
"Ram Ki Ans" at page 871 of GGS.
Your response:
jrnYl isMG jI! ieh TIk hY ik sfry jIvF ivwc iewko hI joq hY
arQfq sfry jIv Aus iewko prm joq qoN hI hoNd ivwc afey hn. pr sfiraF ivwc iewko
joq hox dy bfvjUd sfry jIv vwK vwK hn. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn: “eyko pvxu mftI
sB eykf sB eykf joiq sbfeIaf] sB iekf joiq vrqY iBin iBin n rleI iksy dI
rlfeIaf]” (pMnf-96) pr lyKf sB dy afpo afpxy kIqy krmF df huMdf hY. “kIqf
afpo afpxf afpy hI lyKf sMZIaY]” (pMnf-473).
Comments: Jasbir Singh Ji, as ususal you know you are wrong,
but you don
’t
want to admit it. The question here is whether the soul in each one of us have a
unique and separate entity that passes on from one life to another or it is the
same jyot in every one every where. You admit it, but then go on to deny it by
saying that each one of are accountable for our deeds. Each one of us can be
accountable for our deeds even if we do not inherit this unique and separate
enitiy from any prevous life.
By the way you have tried to misguide the readers here by
quoting only a part of the verse from page 96. You highlighted the words
“n
rleI iksy dI rlfeIaf]”
suggesting that each one of us do have a separate soul as per our Guru. If you
read the whole verse at page 96, it means that under the influence of Maya we
are unable to recognize the same light of God in each one of us, and with the
help of Guru we will be able to do so. So the quote you have given in support of
your views, in fact, repudiates your views.
So Jasbir Singh Ji, if you agree with me that no one has a
separate and unique soul inherited from previous lives, then your theory is
wrong. You may admit it or not, that is your choice.
3. My Question: This theory assumes that the fruit of our
deeds is obtained in the next life. Even if the sanskars of our deeds are being
inscribed on our inner self throughout our life, the end result (fruit) is
obtained only at the time of death or in the next life.
Your Response:
jrnYl isMG jI! ieh gurmq isDFq hY koeI myrf afpxf isDFq nhIN.
qusIN ies nUM nhIN mMndy qF nf mMnoN. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn: “afpInHY Bog Boig
kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf] vzf hoaf dunIdfru gil sMglu Giq
clfieaf] agY krxI kIriq vfcIaY bih lyKf kir smJfieaf]” (pMnf-464).
(BAuru isDfieaf= jIvfqmf, srIr Cwz geI. vwzf hoaf= jdoN jIv mr igaf).
ijQY lyKf mMgIaY iqQY dyh jfiq n jfie]” (pMnf-1346).
Comments: S Jasbir Singh ji, I have noticed that whenever you
do not have an answer, you always remark, “This is not my view, this is the
principle of Gurmat.” Question here is whether Sikhism believes that fruit of
our deeds are obtained in our next life or not. If your answer is yes, then you
need to substantiate this from GGS. If not, then your theory is wrong.
4. My Question: This theory assumes that life as a human
being is a punishment because if a person has not done well in this life he/she
will be reborn either as a human being or as some other specie.
Your Response.
jrnYl isMG jI! afvfgAux
gurmq df isDFq hY koeI myrf afpxf nhIN. gurmq hwsidaF KyzidaF KfidaF pihnidaF
jIvn bqIq krn df AupdyÈ idMdI hY pr mfVy kMm krn dI iejfjq nhIN idMdI.
dwso ies ivwc kI mfVI gwl hY?
Comments: Once again you have no answer here and you run away
by saying that this is not your theory, but a Gurmat principle. Jasbir Singh Ji,
the question here is whether as per Gurmat human life is a punishment or not. If
it is not punishment then the very basis of your theory collapses.
5. My Question: This theory assumes that the lesser species can outperform
humans in the service of God as some species can do deeds to deserve to be born
as human beings while some human can not pull out a performance even to deserve
a rebirth as a human being. Gurmat does not support this. That is why life as a
human being has been called Durlabh.
Your Response : qusIN iliKaf hY “In Gurmat
Human life is called
‘durlB’.
(arQfq mnuKf jnm bfr bfr nhIN imldf).
pr quhfzy muqfbk qF iksy vI jIv df jnm dubfrf nhIN huMdf qF Pyr gurU sfihbF
nyN mnuwKf jnm nUM hI ikAuN ikhf ik bfr bfr nhIN huMdf.
Comments: S Jasbir Singh Ji, read my question and your answer
again, this is way out of context. What I am asking is that as per this theory
lesser species can outperform human beings in the service of God. If you deny
this, then your theory is wrong.
6. My Question. This theory assumes that there can be
millions of chances for a person to be born as a human being and please God. A
person who has not done well in life is penalized by denying salvation and is
forced to be reborn as human being or some other specie. Technically this person
can be born as a human for infinite number of times.
Your Respons.
jrnYl isMG
jI! gurmq dy afvfgAux isDFq anusfr ies jnm ivwc gurmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky jfx qy
Aus dI joiq pRBU dI joq ivwc smf jFdI hY. Aus nUM muV jnm nhIN lYxf pYNdf. pr
mnmuwKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky jfx qy Aus nUM anykF (lwKF, kroVF) jUnF ivwc jnm lYxf
pYNdf hY. Pyr kdy jdoN pRBU nUM Bfvy qF ikqy jf ky mnuwKf jnm imldf hY. ies nUM
qusIN mnuwKf jnm imlx dy lwKF hI mOky mMndy ho qF ieh quhfzI afpxI soc hY. mYN
aYsf ikqy nhIN iliKaf ik mnuwKf jnm imlx dy lwKF mOky hn, blik gurmq anusfr lwKF
jUnF ipwCoN ikqy mnuwKf jnm imldf hY. kbIr jI kihMdy hn:
“
lK cAurfsIh
join BRim afieE] ab ky Cutky TAur n TfieE]”
Comments: S Jasbir Singh Ji, the question here is whether as
per theory of incarnation/transmigration, a person can be reborn as human being
for any number of times or not. If your answer is yes, then your theory is not
as per Gurmat.
7. My question. This theory assumes having perfect and full
knowledge of what happens to a person or soul after he or she dies. However our
Guru has denied this categorically.
Your Response.
kI qusIN
dws skdy ho ik mYN aYsf ikwQy iliKaf hY ik mrn ipwCoN jIv iks jUnIN ivwc jnm ley
gf ies df pqf huMdf hY? myry muqfbk bMdy dy kIqy mfVy krmF krky pRBU dy hukm
ivwc jIv nUM anykF jUnF ivwc jnm lYxf pYNdf hY. pr Aus nUM iks iks jUnIN ivwc
jnm lYxf pvygf ieh prmfqmf dy hukm qy inrBr krdf hY. mrn ipwCoN koeI iks jUnIN
ivwc peygf ies bfry isrP prmfqmf hI jfxdf hY.
Comments: You are saying it in every letter. You have said it
in your responses above. If you are afraid of your own ideas, then it is your
problem. Don
’t
get angry with me. If you say that after death a person will be reborn, then it
means you have full knowledge of what happens after death. Otherwise how would
you know that a person is being reborn or not? This is the very basis of the
theory of reincarnation/transmigration. This is what you wrote in one of your
letters.
1[
jI hF mnmuwK bMdf mrn ipwCoN mnuwK
jF hor jIvF dI jUn ivwc pY jFdf hY pr ikMnf icr jF ikMnIaF jUnF ivwc
pey gf ies df koeI Kfs lyKf joKf jF smF nhIN hY. jdoN pRBU nUM BfAuNdf
hY Aus nUM mnuwKf jnm iml jFdf hY.
Now if you want to deny it, then it is up to you. Your denial
would mean that the main pillar of your theory is busted.
8 Jasbir Singh Ji, you have been saying things and then
denying them throughout this discussion. You denied having said that the system
of Karma started at the time of second generation of species. Then you agreed to
it. You are denying having ever said that God can terminate the cycle of life on
earth at any time. You denied it again in your last response. You are saying it
again and again and still denying it. This is what you said:
pRikrqI aqy jIv smyq sfrf bRhmMz Aus
ny afpxy afp qoN bxfieaf hY aqy jdoN jI cfhy
sB kuwJ
smyt ky isrP afp hI
rih jFdf hY. “iqsu pRB qy
sglI Auqpiq]
iqsu BfvY qf kry ibsQfr] iqsu BfvY qF eykMkfr]”
(pMnf-294).
Now tell me what happens when God contracts the whole
universe into himself and God alone is there and nothing else. Do we still have
cycle of life on earth? I agree with you on this point but you are denying this
now as it does not fits well in your theory. As I said before this was the major
difference you pointed out between the theory of Avagaun in Gurmat and one in
Hinduism. If you intend to deny it now, you should tell your readers about this
as a rider to your article. But even if you chose to deny this, Gurmat says in
no uncertain terms that God can and has terminated this cycle of life on earth
many times. Guru says it in very clear terms in Sukhmani. Kayee vaar passrio
Passar. So the point that I raised before still stands.
Besides it is to be noted that even science talks about four
such extinctions when everything on this earth was wiped out. Our Guru has
already said it centuries ago.
9 S Jasbir Singh Ji, there is no point repeating the same
thing again and again, in case you have any thing to say that justifies the
assumptions/contradictions pointed out by me, then let me know. Otherwise, we
can leave it for the readers to make their own judgment. I jumped into this
discussion as I was interested in this subject and wanted to find out if (as you
claimed) there is anything new in the theory presented by you. Though I did not
find any thing new, I did come across some of the weirdest remarks/ideas ever
heard before. I did not know that a person can go to the extent of branding God
as a masochist (that too in the name of Gurmat) in order to justify this theory.
People do bad karmas but God pays for it and inflicts pain upon him because the
soul that is to be punished is a part of God
’s
self. But never mind, as that does no make much difference to God because he is
indifferent to all pain and pleasure. What a theory!
Kind regards
Jarnail Singh
Sydney Australia
(30/12/08)
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI
kmytI ny
jfx-buwJ ky piqq vkIl rfhIN hlPnfmf dfKl krvfieaf
kpUrQlf 30 dsMbr (kfdIafnI,
BftIaf) roËfnf spoksmYn aqy iswK jQybMdIaF vloN hfl duhfeI pfAux kfrx, ijs qrHF
ÈRomxI kmytI nUM iswK dI pirBfÈf bfry afpxy hlPnfmy qy dubfrf gOr krn leI mjbUr
hoxf ipaf hY, Aus qoN jfhr hY ik ies kmytI Aupr kfbj isafsqdfn jfxbuwJ ky afpxf
AuWlU iswDf krn leI sihjDfrIaF df rOl-Gcolf pfeI bYTy sn. drasl iehnF isafsqdfnF
nUM iswKI dy BivwK qoN ijafdf afpxIaF kursIaF df iPkr ijafdf KfeI jf irhf sI.
ijhnF aKOqI sihjDfrIaF dy nfm hyT gYr iswKF aqy pRvfsI mjdUrF dIaF votF nfl cux
ky ieh hux qwk gurduafiraF dy pRbMD qy jwPf mfrI bYTy hn, jykr iswK dI pirBfÈf
nUM shI arQF ivwc lfgU kr idwqf jfvy qF ieh msMd rUpI isafsqdfn afpxy afp bfhr
ho jfxy sn. dl Kflsf kpUrQlf dy pRDfn BfeI hrnyk isMG Buwlr aqy Kflsf Pqihnfmf
dy BfeI jsivMdr isMG ÈFq ny awj jfrI kIqy afpxy ibafn ivwc ÈRomxI kmytI qy doÈ
lgfieaf ik Ausny jfx-buwJ ky Auprokq hlPnfmf iewk aijhy vkIl ‘pivq mwqyvfl’
rfhIN dfKl krfieaf, jo Kuwd klInÈyv hY. aijhy ivwc ieh iks qrHF afs kIqI jf skdI
sI ik aKOqI sihjDfrIaF nUM irafieq dyx dy mksd nfl ies hlPnfmy ivwc CyV-CfV nf
kIqI jFdI. BfeI Buwlr aqy ÈFq ny ÈRomxI kmytI dI ies gMBIr axgihlI leI pRDfn
avqfr isMG mwkV dy asqIPy smyq sfrI kfrjkfrxI nUM BMg krn dI mMg kIqI. AuhnF
akfl qKq sfihb dy muwK syvfdfr BfeI gurbcn isMG nUM vI apIl kIqI ik Auh smyN dI
njfkq nUM smJdy hoey ÈRomxI dy pRDfn aqy kmytI mYNbrF ivruwD iswK ivroDI
kfrvfeIaF krn leI qurMq kfrvfeI krn. BfeI hrnyk isMG Buwlr ny aYzvokyt pivq
mwqyvfl dI klIn Èyv (sPf-cwt) avsQf ivwc ieMzIaf tUzy mYgjIn ivwc CpI hoeI Poto
vI jfrI kIqI. AuhnF suafl AuTfieaf ik ÈRomxI kmytI nUM ies mhwqv kfrj leI koeI
guriswK vkIl ikAuN nhIN suwiJaf? kI ies Gor axgihlI ipwCy sihjDfrIaF dIaF votF
bdly koeI sfijÈ qF kMm nhIN sI kr rhI?
AuhnF muwK syvfdfrF nUM apIl kIqI ik Auh iswK dI pirBfÈf df muwdf afpxy hwQF
ivwc lYx. aqy ies sbMDI ÈRomxI kmytI dI mnmrjI nUM rokidaF koeI vI PYslf lYx
lwigaF iswK pMQ dIaF sfrIaF Dfrimk jQybMdIaF aqy sBf susfietIaF nUM ivÈvfÈ ivwc
lYx. AuhnF duhrfieaf ik sfiraF iDrF nUM ieh smJ lYxf cfhIdf hY ik kysF dI iksy
qrHF byadbI krn vflf piqq hY, aqy iswK rihq mirafdf anusfr piqq ivakqI iswK
kihlfAux df hwkdfr nhIN. AuhnF mMg kIqI ik ÈRomxI kmytI dy pRbMD aDIn kfljF ivwc
iswK df kotf kyvl aMimRqDfrI guriswK ividafrQIaF leI hI rfKvF kIqf jfvy.
(29/12/08)
aMgryj isMG vltohf
jasveer singh ji calgary waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh i request
that past life and future life means pichla janam aur agla janam that u guys
should stop discussing about it if someone doesnt believe all that its their own
thinking but we have to be khalsa
Angrej Singh Valtoha
(29/12/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf
Dear Moderator, it is with reference to message dt 27-12-2008
from Sukhpal Singh, which has already been shared on
www.sikhmarg.com
Then by reproducing the same by said person, what he wishes
to convey?
Please avoid futile discussion especially by addressing to
the individuals. Once any matter has been discussed there is no need to go on by
repeating same argument. Full Stop could be used.
thanks, Gurmit Singh (Australia)
(28/12/08)
suKpfl isMG
Jarnail Singh Sydney Australia,
Dear jarnail singh ji ans your q? who was our guru before 1708. was it shabad
and after also shabad, shabad an everlasting khalsa guru from day one in this
cosmos. Guru mean is god hukam. guru nanak and guru gobind singh never say i am
guru. nanak say bani guru shabad guru amrit guru .satnam guru .
sukhpal singh
(suKpfl isMG jI ivcfr ivc sLfml hox leI DMnvfd, pr ikrpf krky
jdoN ivcfr ho rhI hovy AudoN sLfml hoieaf kro. jy kr ilK skdy ho qF pMjfbI ivc
ilKo. jy kr iksy PONts jF shfieqf dI loV hovy qF dws dyxf. jy kr isrP iegilsL
ivc hI ilKxf cfhuMdy qF ikrpf krky spYilMgF df iKafl rwiKaf kro-sMpfdk)
(27/12/08)
srbjoq isMG svwdI
iswK srUp nUM "aqvfdI" smJdf hY amrIkf ivwc XU: pI: aYs: df iewk
mulfËm
bykrsPIlz- (srbjoq isMG svwdI) kYlyPornIaF dy bykrsPIlz Èihr
ivwc XU pI aYs dIaF izlvrIaF krn vfly zrfeIvr nfl jIhdI njr ivwc dsqfr DfrI dfVI
vflf koeI vI iensfn awqvfdI hY. Auhdy aMdrlf pfp Aus smyN AuGiVaf jdoN srdfr
blvIr isMG dy puqr dy Gr iewk pYkyj izlvr krn afieaf. srdfr blvIr isMG ny pYkyj
ilaf aqy dsqKq kr idwqy. izlvrI dyx vflf afpxy rfhy pY igaf. bykrs PIlz ivwc keI
sflf qoN rihx vfly ies pirvfr ny XU pI aYs dI vYb sfeIt qy jfky ieh lwBx dI
koiÈÈ kIqI ik dUjf pYkyj ikQy hY jdoN ik AunHF ny do pYkËF df afzr kIqf sI.
pirvfr Aus vyly dMg rih igaf jdoN AunHF ny dyiKaf ik XU pI aYs dI vYb sfeIt dy
AUs Kfny ivwc "awqvfdI" (
Terrorist)
Èbd iliKaf hoieaf sI ijQy pYkyj lYx vfly df nfm ilKxf huMdf hY. pUrf pirvfr ies
nslvfdI Èbd dy vrqy jfx qy bhuq duwK mihsUs kr irhf hY. blvIr isMG ny ikhf
awqvfdI Èbd bhuq hI mfVf hY. iswK awqvfdI nhIN hn aqy sfry muslmfn vI awqvfdI
nhIN hn. ey bI sI Kbr eyjMsI anusfr blvIr isMG puqr anMq isMG ny ikhf ik sfrf
iswK BfeI cfrf dsqfr sjfAuNdf hY. iswK Drm nfl sbMDq lok tYroirst nhIN hn. asIN
sFqI nUM ipafr krn vfly lok hF aqy smfj df iewk aMg hF. pirvfr dy iewk njdIkI
imwqr zf qyg iswDU ny ikhf bhuq sfry lok iswKF aqy muslmfnF ivwckfr Prk nhIN
smJdy pr AunHF nUM hriewk qy awqvfdI hox df lybl nhIN lfAuxf cfhIdf. eyjMsI df
kihxf hY ik XU pI aYs ny vYbsfeIt qy awqvfdI dI QF qy "isMG" Èbd pf idwqf hY.
Kbr eyjMsI anusfr XU pI aYs df kihxf hY CuwtIaF dy idnF ivwc bhuq sfry nvyN lok
BrqI kIqy gey sn. XU pI aYs ies mfmly dI pVqfl kr rhI hY.
(27/12/08)
suKpfl isMG
Dear Moderator S. Makhan Singh jee,
[
www.sikhmarg.com]
Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh
During the Sikh Scripture Class here in Australia, I have
tried to explain the "Commencing Verse" as follows:
Ekk Oankaar - There is only One God, the Supreme True Entity;
Satt Naam - God is the Truth, the True Naam
Kartaa Purkh - God is the Creator of entire Universe;
Nirbhau - God is without any fear;
Nirvair - God is without enmity;
Akaal Mooret- God is Immortal, Infinite, Invisible;
Ajoonee - God is beyond birth & death, but everlasting;
Saibhang - God is self-Illuminator;
Gur Parsaad - God is the Divine Enlightenment & Bounteous (aad sach and
sach mean amrit is God parsaad).
Thank you, your pathak
Dass Suhkpal Singh
(26/12/08)
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI
kpUrQlf dIaF sMgqF vloN inXukqI df BrvF svfgq
BfeI mihMdr isMG kflf sMiGaF aKMz kIrqnI jQy dy nvyN muwKI
aYlfny gey.
kpUrQlf 26 dsMbr
(kfdIafnI, BftIaf) aKMz kIrqnI jQy dy muwKI BfeI
sUrq isMG jI pUrnjI dy sdIvIN ivCoVy qoN bfad jQy vloN kpUrQlf ielfky dI Dfrimk
ÈKsIaq aqy inÈkfm guriswK BfeI mihMdr isMG kflfsMiGaF nUM nvyN muwKI vjoN mfnqf
dy idwqI hY. jQy vloN jfrI kIqy gey pRYWs not anusfr BfeI mihMdr isMG jI keI
dhfikaF qoN jQybMdI nfl idRV lgn aqy isrV nfl juVy rhy hn. aKMz kIrqnI jQy dIaF
purfqn rvfieqF nUM muwK rKidaF nfm bfxI dy aiBafsI guriswK nUM dyÈ ivdyÈ ivcly
XUintF dy afpsI qflmyl aqy srbsMmqI nfl hI ieh inXukqI idwqI geI hY. jQy vloN
BfeI sivMdr isMG PrFs, BfeI ryÈm isMG jrmnI, BfeI jspRIq isMG torFto, BfeI
pRBjoq isMG kYlIPornIaf, BfeI amrjIq isMG ietlI, BfeI krm isMG hflYNz, BfeI swjx
isMG svIzn, BfeI subyg isMG zYnmfrk aqy BfeI suKdyv isMG ieMglYNz ny sfrIaF
sMgqF nUM apIl kIqI hY ik Auh iswK pMQ dI cVdI klf aqy jQy df pRbMD clfAux leI
BfeI mihMdr isMG kflfsMiGaF jI nUM pUrn sihXog kIqf jfvy.
ÈKsIaq qy iewk Jfq:-
BfeI mihMdr isMG jI df ielfky dIaF Dfrimk jQybMdIaF ivwc Kfs asQfn irhf hY. iswK
imÈnrI kflj vloN hr sfl leI jFdI Dfrimk pRIiKaf leI afpjI kflfsMiGaF srkl dI
srpRsqI krdy af rhy hn. sMq hIrfdfs skUl aqy kMinaf ividaflf ivwc afp ny pRbMDk
kmytI dy sihXog nfl keI pRkfr dy sYmInfr aqy pRojYkt cflU krky Dfrimk lihr clfeI
hoeI hY. iehnF dy Brfqf BfeI ipafrf isMG kflfsMiGaF ies smyN ieMglYNz ivwc Drm
pRcfr dy dOry qy hn. hwsmuwK suBfa dy BfeI mihMdr isMG kflfsMiGaF hr pwKoN
guriswKI isDFqF dI iewk imsfl hn. dsF nONhF dI ikrq vjoN BfeI sfihb ny
kflfsMiGaF ivKy afpxI iewk CotI ijhI mkYnIkl vrkÈfp KolHI hoeI hY, ijwQy Drm dI
ikrq krn dy nfl nfl bfbf nfnk vloN bKÈy PlsPy nUM pRcfrn leI PrI iltrycr dI syvf
vI krdy hn.
BfeI mihMdr isMG jI BfvyNik hux aKMz kIrqnI jQy dy jQydfr
aYlfny gey hn, pr AuhnF sfhmxy iewk cunOqI bVy jordfr ZMg nfl mUMh awzI KVI hY.
drasl BfeI sfihb dI vrkÈfp dy iblwkul sfhmxy bfbf kfhndfs df gurduafrf hY, ijwQy
ho rhI Gor mnmwq qoN iswK sMgq bhq mfXUs hY. ies zyry ivwc roËfnf Èrfb cVfeI
jFdI hY. mwisaf vfly idn qF trwkF dy trwk iewQy Auqfry jFdy hn. ies zyry vloN
iewk gurduafrf vI bxfieaf hoieaf hY, ijwQy dfrU nfl rwjy hoey ipafkV dIvfn hfl
ivwc af ky keI qrHF dIaF KrmsqIaF krdy hn. iswK sMgqF dy zfZy ivroD dy bfvjUd
ieh mnmwqI zyrf pihlF dI qrHF kfiem hY. BfeI mihMdr isMG jI kflfsMiGaF aqy AuhnF
dI jQybMdI Aupr hux ieh ijMmyvfrI af peI hY ik Auh afpxy pRBfv nfl ies mnmwq nUM
hmyÈF leI bMd krvfAux.
kpUrQlf dIaF sMgqF ivwc KuÈI dI lihr
: ies dOrfn Èihr dIaF qkrIbn sfrIaF hI Dfrimk jQybMdIaF ny BfeI mihMdr isMG
kflfsMiGaF dI aKMz kIrqnI jQy dy muwKI vjoN hoeI inXukqI df BrvF svfgq kIqf hY.
ies inXukqI ny sMgqF ivwc nvF AuqÈfh Br idwqf hY. ÈihrI jQybMdIaF vloN smUh isMG
sBfvF dy knvInr hrjIq isMG BftIaf, gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI, iswK imÈnrI kflj vloN
hrBjn isMG, Tykydfr suirMdr isMG, jspfl isMG kflVf, suKbIr isMG DMdoeI, avqfr
isMG pRIqngr, gurU goibMd isMG stwzI srkl vloN crnjIq isMG vflIaf, svrn isMG
mTfVU, avqfr isMG, gurU nfnk inÈkfm kIrqnI jQy vloN BfeI virafm isMG kpUr,
divMdr isMG dyv aqy hrivMdr isMG dIpngr, ryl koc PYktrI qoN zfktr prmjIq isMG
mfnsf, AuWjl isMG imÈnrI aqy rijMdrpfl isMG ny afs pRgt kIqI hY ik BfeI sfihb
pihlF vFg hI Drm pRcfr dI lihr nUM hor pRcMz krngy.
(25/12/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn
sR[ jsbIr isMG kYlgrI jI! gur Pqih pRIvfn krnI.
bhuq icr pihlf mYN quhfnUM iliKaf sI ik quhfzy svflF df jvfb
dyx qoN pihlF qusIN mYnUM ieh dwso beI ‘agy, agY’ df mqlb qusIN ies ijMdgI dy
Kqm hox qoN bfad vfly iksy hor jnm nUM awgf ikAuN mMndy ho jdoN ik pRqwK nËr ieh
af irhf hY ik hr afAux vflf pl bIq cuky pl df agf hY. mqlb ‘agy, agY’ iewQy hI
hY nf iksy hor dunIaf `c ijs nUM iksy vyiKaf qikaf nhIN sgoN bRfhmxI soc nfl GVI
GVfeI khfxI hY qy asIN axjfxy ivwc ivÈvfs kr bYTy hF.
quhfzf jvfb sI clo mMinaf ik ‘agy, agY’ iesy ijMdgI ivwc hI
hY. mqlb ieh sI lPË koeI hor ho skdy hn. mYN quhfzy svflF dy jvfb iPr vI nhIN
idwqy ikAuNik mYnUM pqf sI ik qusIN crcf nUM awgy qorn leI hI ieh ilK rhy ho.
quhfzy agly pwqr ivwc iPr svfl sI ik qusIN myry svflF df jvfb
nhIN idwqf. bs mYN iesy AuzIk `c sF.
iPr mYN ieh iliKaf sI ik jykr qusIN ‘agy, agY’ ies jnm vflf
mMn hI ilaf hY qF quhfzy afqmf qy afvfgAux nfl sfry sbMDq svfl Kqm hoxy cfhIdy
sn. drasl qusIN ies jnm vfly awgy nuM mMinaf hI nhIN ies krky quhfzy svfl KVy
hn. so ieh mqlb inkldf hY ik qusIN JUT vI boldy ho.
DMnvfd.
gurU pMQ df dfs,
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.
(23/12/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
jrnYl isMG jI! aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.
jrnYl isMG jI! qusIN bfr-bfr iehI duhrfeI jFdy ho ik mYN
iliKaf hY: “
God can terminate the
cycle of life on earth
at any time you are denying now”[
lyikn mYN jo iliKaf hY Auh ies qrHF hY: prmfqmf hI anfdI hY
arQfq isrP prmfqmf hI hmyÈF qoN hoNd vflf hY aqy hmyÈF hoNd ivwc rhygf.
pRikrqI aqy jIv smyq sfrf bRhmMz Aus ny afpxy afp qoN bxfieaf hY aqy
jdoN jI cfhy
sB kuwJ
smyt ky isrP afp hI rih jFdf hY. “iqsu
pRB qy sglI
Auqpiq] iqsu BfvY qf kry ibsQfr] iqsu
BfvY qF eykMkfr]” (pMnf-294).
qusIN dws skdy ho ik myrI ilKq ivwcoN iks awKr df arQ qusIN “
Cycle
of life on earth”
lgf rhy ho?
awgy qusIN iliKaf hY:
At the time of death all the elements go back where
they came from and nothing has come from anywhere at the time of birth and
nothing goes out at the time of death.
“pvnY mih pvnu smfieaf] joqI mih joiq ril jfieaf] mftI mftI hoeI eyk……[ []”
jrnYl isMG jI! ies Èbd ivwc iliKaf hY pvnY mih pvnu smfieaf
arQfq svfs hvf ivwc rl gey. mftI mftI hoeI eyk arQfq sfry qwq, qwqF ivwc iml
gey. qusIN iliKaf hY ik mOq ho jfx qy srIr dy qwqF qoN ibnF hor kuwJ vI ikqy
nhIN jFdf. qF Pyr joqI mih joiq ril jfieaf df kI arQ hoieaf? qusIN iliKaf hY ik
jnm vyly ienHF qwqF qoN isvfie hor kuwJ vI ikqoN nhIN afAuNdf. pr gurU sfihb qF
kihMdy hn:
“ey
srIrf myiraf hir qum mih joiq rKI qf qU jg mih
afieaf]” (pMnf- 921). ieQy qwqF dy bxy srIr qoN ibnF
ies ivwc joq rwKx df vI ijkr kIqf igaf hY.
jy qwqF qoN ibnf jIv dy srIr ivwc hor kuwJ vI nhIN huMdf qF,
(iksy jIv qoN
Living
organism ley ibnF) loVINdI mfqrf ivwc jo jo
qwq cfhIdy hn DrqI qoN lY ky (ibnf Surrogated
mother dI shfieqf ley) lbotrI ivwc jIv pYdf
kIqf jf skxf cfhIdf hY. kI ies qrHF sMBv hY?
awgy qusIN iliKaf hY: “
This
Theory (afvfgAux isDFq)
assumes that the soul of each person has unique and
separate entity. This separate entity migrates from one birth to another
accumulating its Karmas. However Gurmat says in clear terms that same Jot gives
life to every single thing in this universe”[
jrnYl isMG jI! ieh TIk hY ik sfry jIvF ivwc iewko hI joq hY
arQfq sfry jIv Aus iewko prm joq qoN hI hoNd ivwc afey hn. pr sfiraF ivwc iewko
joq hox dy bfvjUd sfry jIv vwK vwK hn. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn: “eyko pvxu mftI
sB eykf sB eykf joiq sbfeIaf] sB iekf joiq vrqY iBin iBin n rleI iksy dI
rlfeIaf]” (pMnf-96) pr lyKf sB dy afpo afpxy kIqy krmF df huMdf hY. “kIqf
afpo afpxf afpy hI lyKf sMZIaY]” (pMnf-473).
qusIN iliKaf hY: “
This
theory (afvfgAux isDFq)
assumes that the fruit of our deeds is obtained in
the next life. Sikhism.. has not fed it’s
followers with pipedreams about what will happen in the next life.
jrnYl isMG jI! ieh gurmq isDFq
hY koeI myrf afpxf isDFq nhIN. qusIN ies nUM nhIN mMndy qF nf mMnoN. gurU sfihb
kihMdy hn: “afpInHY Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf] vzf hoaf
dunIdfru gil sMglu Giq clfieaf] agY krxI kIriq vfcIaY bih lyKf kir
smJfieaf]” (pMnf-464). (BAuru isDfieaf= jIvfqmf, srIr Cwz geI. vwzf hoaf=
jdoN jIv mr igaf).
“
ijQY lyKf mMgIaY iqQY dyh jfiq n
jfie]” (pMnf-1346).
qusIN iliKaf hY “
This
theory assumes that life as a human being is a punishment because if a person
has not done well in this life he/she will be reborn either as a human being
or as some other species”[
jrnYl isMG jI! afvfgAux gurmq df isDFq hY koeI myrf afpxf
nhIN. gurmq hwsidaF KyzidaF KfidaF pihnidaF jIvn bqIq krn df AupdyÈ idMdI hY
pr mfVy kMm krn dI iejfjq nhIN idMdI. dwso ies ivwc kI mfVI gwl hY?
qusIN iliKaf hY “
In
Gurmat Human life is called ‘durlB’.
(arQfq mnuKf jnm bfr bfr nhIN imldf).
pr quhfzy muqfbk qF iksy vI jIv df jnm dubfrf nhIN huMdf qF
Pyr gurU sfihbF nyN mnuwKf jnm nUM hI ikAuN ikhf ik bfr bfr nhIN huMdf.
qusIN iliKaf hY “
This
theory assumes that there can be millions of chances for a person to born as a
human being and please God”[
jrnYl isMG jI! gurmq dy afvfgAux isDFq anusfr ies jnm ivwc
gurmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky jfx qy Aus dI joiq pRBU dI joq ivwc smf jFdI hY. Aus
nUM muV jnm nhIN lYxf pYNdf. pr mnmuwKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky jfx qy Aus nUM anykF
(lwKF, kroVF) jUnF ivwc jnm lYxf pYNdf hY. Pyr kdy jdoN pRBU nUM Bfvy qF ikqy jf
ky mnuwKf jnm imldf hY. ies nUM qusIN mnuwKf jnm imlx dy lwKF hI mOky mMndy ho
qF ieh quhfzI afpxI soc hY. mYN aYsf ikqy nhIN iliKaf ik mnuwKf jnm imlx dy lwKF
mOky hn, blik gurmq anusfr lwKF jUnF ipwCoN ikqy mnuwKf jnm imldf hY. kbIr jI
kihMdy hn:
“
lK cAurfsIh join BRim afieE] ab ky
Cutky TAur n TfieE]”
qusIN iliKaf hY “
This
theory assumes having perfect and full knowledge of what happens to a person or
soul after he or she dies”.
kI qusIN dws skdy ho ik
mYN aYsf ikwQy iliKaf hY ik mrn ipwCoN jIv iks jUnIN ivwc jnm ley gf ies df pqf
huMdf hY? myry muqfbk bMdy dy kIqy mfVy krmF krky pRBU dy hukm ivwc jIv nUM
anykF jUnF ivwc jnm lYxf pYNdf hY. pr Aus nUM iks iks jUnIN ivwc jnm lYxf pvygf
ieh prmfqmf dy hukm qy inrBr krdf hY. mrn ipwCoN koeI iks jUnIN ivwc peygf ies
bfry isrP prmfqmf hI jfxdf hY.
myry svflF dy jvfb dy sMbMD ivwc:
qusIN krm isDFq nUM mMn ilaf hY pr AunHF df Pl iesy jnm ivwc
imlxf mMinaf hY. awgy kuwJ nhIN hY. qusIN iliKaf hY: “
Each
one of us is accountable for whatever we do. But all this happens in this life
itself, nothing carries over to the “next life”.
jrnYl isMG jI! mYN jfnxf
cfhFgf ik prmfqmf (ies jnm ivwc hI shI) kIqy krmF df jo lyKf krdf hY Aus df Ìl
jF sËf iks rUp ivwc idMdf hY? quhfzy muqfbk Dn-dOlq jF duK suK gjF nfl nfpx vflI
cIj nhIN. ikAuNik keI ÊrIb lok QoVHy ijhy sfDnF ivwc hI cMgf ÊuËfrf krI jFdy hn
aqy KuÈ hn, aqy keI jOrj buwÈ vrgy ijnHF kol hr iksm dIaF suK shUlqF muheIaf hn
Auh vI duKI ho skdy hn. jy amIrI ÊrIbI duK-suK hfl hox jF nf hox nfl koeI Ìrk
nhIN pYNdf qF Pyr prmfqmf kIqy krmF df lyKf krky Aus lyKy df kI krdf hY?
myrf dUjf svfl sI ik: jy bMdy dy kIqy krmF df ihsfb ikqfb
nhIN huMdf qF prmfqmf ny kIVy, pqMgy, sUr, kuwqy, afid GtIaF jUnF ikAuN pYdf
kIqIaF jo sfrI Aumr duwK Bohdy hn. ies df qusIN vkIlF vFÕUM GUMzI PV ky jvfb
idwqf hY ik “ikAuNik mYN pihly svfl df jvfb hF ivwc idwqf hY ies leI ieh dUjf
svfl by buinafd hY”. jrnYl isMG jI! quhfzy eynf kihx nfl hI myry svfl df jvfb qF
nhIN afieaf. myrf dUjf svfl hjy vI Ausy qrHF hI KVf hY ik jy ipCly jnm dy kIqy
krmF df koeI ihsfb nhIN huMdf qF prmfqmf ny Aucy nIvyN drjy dIaF jUnF ikAuN pYdf
kIqIaF? jF Pyr ikAuNik qusIN krmF df ihsfb mMndy ho ies leI ieh mMn ilaf jfvy ik
kIqy krmF anusfr prmfqmF ny GtIaF jUnF pYdf kIqIaF. gurU sfihb vI kihMdy hn:
“
Audm krih anyk hir nfm n gfvhI]
Brmih join asMK mir jnmih afvNhI] pÈU pMKI sYl qrvr gxq kCU n afvey] bIj
bovis Bog Bogih
kIaf afpxf pfvey]
rqn jnmu hfrMq jUaY pRBU afip n BfvhI]
ibnvMiq nfnk Brmih Brmfey iKnu eyk itkxu n pfvhI]
(pMnf-705).
ardfs bfry qusIN iliKaf hY ik ies dI mhwqqf hY pr ieh vwKrf
ivÈf hY.
jrnYl isMG jI! quhfnUM Xfd hovy gf ik ardfs df nukqf qusIN hI
KVf kIqf sI. Aus vkq ieh cldy ivÈy nfl sMbMDq sI pr hux ivÈy qoN bfhr dI gwl ho
geI. Aus vkq qusIN gurmq ivwc ardfs dy sMklp qoN ienkfrI sI pr ieQy qusIN ies dI
mhwqqf nUM sivkfr krdy ho. qusIN iliKaf sI:
I
don’t
have any problem with your interpretation of prayer in this context.( Though
we may not agree with each other on the concept of prayer in Sikhism).
pr hux qusIN
mukr rhy ho.
cOQy svfl ivwc mYN bfr bfr ies jnm qoN bfad Pyr jnm hY
jF nhIN ies bfry puwC irhf hF jo ik cwl irhf aslI ivÈf vI hY. aqy qusIN bfr bfr
ieh jo mnuwKf jnm imilaf hY Aus dI gwl krI jf rhy ho.
pMjvF svfl vI ieh hY ik koeI njfiej qrIky nfl dOlq iekwTI kr
ky aYÈ dI ijMdÊI bsr krky dunIaF qoN clf jFdf hY Aus bfry gurbfxI df kI
Purmfn hY? ijs bfry gurU sfihb kihMdy hn “afpInHy Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru
isDfieaf] vzf hoaf dunIdfru gil sMglu Giq clfieaf] agY krxI kIriq vfcIaY bih
lyKf kir smJfieaf]
myrf svfl aYÈ dI ijMdÊI bsr krky sMsfr qoN qur jfx
vfly ivakqI bfry hY qusIN jvfb ivwc ies jnm ivwc iksy dy nf rwjx dI gwl krI jf
rhy ho. jdik mYN iksy dy rwjx jF nf rwjx bfry koeI gwl hI nhIN kIqI. aqy nf hI
qusIN Aupr idwqIaF pMgqIaF dy arQ hI krky dwsy hn.
CyvyN svfl ivwc mYN puwiCaf sI keI jIv (iensfn jF hor jIv
jMq afid) aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik sfrI Aumr duwK Bogdy hn aqy keI aYsy QF
jnm lYNdy hn ik zwkf dUhrf nhIN krdy pr sfrI Aumr suK dI ijMdÊI bsr krdy hn.
aYsf ikAuN hY……? myry svfl ivwc sfP iliKaf hY ik iensfn jF hor jIv jMq afid[
[ . pr qusIN Pyr bfr bfr hor jIv jMq afid nUM nËr-aMdfj krky aDUrf
jvfb dyeI jf rhy ho.
jrnYl isMG jI! quhfzy svfl:
qusIN bfr bfr AuhI svfl krI jf rhy ho. mYN iliKaf hY ik ieh
jgq rcnf pRBU ny Kyz rcI hY. ies Kyz ivwc Aus dy hukm nfl jIv pYdf hoey. ijs
qrHF hr Kyz dy afpxy knUMn huMdy hn, iesy qrHF pRBU ny vI ies Kyz dy knUMn rc
idwqy ik cMgy kMmF krky (gurmuK bxky) bMdf jy jIvn bqIq krdf hY qF Aus nUM muV
jnm nhIN lYxf pYNdf. mfVy kMmF krky (mnmuwKF vflf) jIvn ibqf ky jfx vfly jIv nUM
(kIqy kMmF anusfr) anykF jUnF ivwc jnm lYxf peygf. jIv dy kIqy krm jIv nUM
dubfrf jnm lYx leI kfrx hn pr jIv dunIaF qy Aus dy hukm ivwc afAuNdf hY. pihlI
jnryÈn hovy, dUjI, dwsvIN, sOvIN jF kroVIN…, jIv jdoN vI afAuNdf hY pRBU dy hukm
ivwc afAuNdf hY. iks mnuwK nyN kIqy krmF anusfr iks iks jUn ivwc pYxf hY Aus dy
kIqy krmF dy aDfr qy ieh PYslf krnf vI pRBU dy hwQ ivwc hY.
prmfqmf ny sMsfr rcnf iksy jrUrq kfrx nhIN kIqI blik ieh jgq
rcnf aqy Aus ivwc jIv Aus dy hukm ivwc afey. ieh Aus dI jrUrq nhIN blik Aus dI
iewCf, rËf jF Bfxf hY, Aus dI Kyz hY.
jIv nUM duK suK dyxy vI Aus df Bfxf hY. pRBU ny jgq rcnf krky
Aus ivwc jIv pYdf krky AunHF nfl krmF df, suK duK df islslf ÈurU kr idwqf. jIv
dy kIqy krmF anusfr Aus nUM duwK suK Bogxy pYNdy hn.
qusIN iliKaf hY ik pRBU ny sfry jIv iewko vfrIN pYdf nhIN
kIqy qF nIvyN drjy qoN ÈurU krky Aucy drjy vwl nUM jIvn pYdf kIqf jF Aucy qoN
nIvyN vwl nUM. ies bfry mYN gurbfxI ivwcoN hvflf pyÈ krF.
jrnYl isMG jI! pRBU nUM ijs qrHF cMgf lwgf Aus nyN sMsfr rcnf
kr idwqI. ies bfry iksy nUM kuwJ pqf nhIN ik pRBU ny sMsfr rcnf iks qrHF kIqI.
nf hI Aus nyN sMsfr crnf krn lwigaF iksy qoN koeI slfh hI puwCI.
“
jdhu afpy Qftu kIaf bih krqY qdhu
puiC n syvku bIaf] qdhu ikaf ko lyvY ikaf ko dyvY jf avru n dUjf kIaf] iPir afpy
jgqu Aupfieaf krqY dfnu sBnf kAu dIaf] afpy syv bxfeIanu gurmuiK afpy aMimRq
pIaf] afip inrMkfru akfr hY afpy afpy krY su QIaf]” (pMnf-551).
jIv iks qrHF hoNd ivwc afey Aucy drjy qoN nIvyN drjy dIaF
jUnF ivwc jF nIvyN qoN Aucy drjy dIaF jUnF dy islsly ivwc jF sfry jIv iewko
vfrIN hoNd ivwc afey Aus dI kudrq df aMdfjf nhIN lgfieaf jf skdf. gurU sfihb
kihMdy hn:
“
kIqf psfAu eyko kvfAu] iqs qy hoey
lK dirafAu] kudriq kvx khf vIcfru] vfiraf nf jfvf eyk vfr] jo quDu
BfvY sfeI BlI kfr] qU sdf slfmiq inrMkfr]”
Aus dy hukm nfl sfrf sMsfr hoNd ivwc afieaf aqy Aus dy hukm
nfl hI lwKF ijMdÊIaF dy dirafAu hoNd ivwc af gey. pr Aus dI kudrq df aMdfjf nhIN
lgfieaf jf skdf.
krm-hukm isDFq bfry qusIN svfl kIqf hY ik kdy mYN kih irhf hF
ik kIqy krmF anusfr pRBU df hukm cldf hY aqy kdy mYN kih irhf hF ik ijs qrHF
pRBU df hukm huMdf hY pRfxI Aus qrHF ivcrdf hY.
jrnYl isMG jI! sMsfr ivwc jo kuwJ vI ho irhf hY sB Aus dy
hukm ivwc ho irhf hY. hor sfry iksm dy jIvF ivwcoN isrP iensfn nUM hI Aus df
hukm pCfnx dI soJI prmfqmf nyN bKÈI hY. iensfn Aus dy hukm nUM pCfx ky
gurmuKF vfly rsqy qy cwly jF nf pCfx ky jF Aus dy hukm qoN afkI ho ky mnmuKF
vflf jIvn ibqfey ieh Cut vI prmfqmf ny ies nUM idwqI hY. gurmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf
ky bMdf jnm mrx dy gyV qoN mukqI pf lYNdf hY. jF Pyr mnmuKF vfly krm krky mrn
ipwCoN kIqy krmF anusfr pRBU dy hukm ivwc bMdf anykF jUnF ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY.
aqy bMdy dy kIqy krmF anusfr ijs qrHF pRBU lyK ilKdf hY Ausy qrHF hI ieh ivcrdf
hY.
ipCly jnm dy kIqy krmF anusfr pRBU Aus dy lyK ilKdf hY. iehI
Ausdf hukm hY, jo ik
‘nfnk
iliKaf nfil’. Ausdy hukm anusfr
jIv iewQy ivcrdf hY aqy iewQy ivcrdf hoieaf ijs qrHF dy krm krdf hY (Aus dy hukm
ivwc rih ky jF hukm qoN afkI ho ky kMm krdf hY) Ausy anusfr pRBU lyK ilKdf hY.
awgy quhfzf kihxf hY, mYN iliKaf hY ik prmfqmf ies DrqI qy
jIvn Kqm krky Pyr ÈurU kr idMdf hY. jrnYl isMG jI! ies ivcfr bfry mYN ies pwqr
dy ÈurU ivwc hI ilK cuwkf hF ik qusIN jbrdsqI ieh gwl myry nfl joVI jf rhy ho
mYN ies qrHF nhIN iliKaf ijs qrHF qusIN khI jf rho. jy mYN aYsf iliKaf hY qF
myrIaF ilKIaF pMgqIaF afpxy pwqr ivwc ilK ky pyÈ kro qF ik Auh pMgqIaF myry lyK
nfl imlfeIaF jf skx. jrnYl isMG jI iewQy iksy nUM vI mukrn dI koeI guMjfieÈ nhIN
hY. sfrIaF ilKqF iewQy hI sfiet qy hI peIaF hn. myry bfr bfr ilKx dy bfvjUd
qusIN myrIaF ilKIaF pMgqIaF nf qF pyÈ kr rhy ho aqy nf hI ies gwl nUM Cwz rhy
ho. so aglI vfrIN ies gwl nUM duhrfx lwgy imhrbfnI krky pihlF myrIaF ilKIaF
pMgqIaF pyÈ krnIaF Pyr ies nfl sMbMDq afpxf koeI svfl rwKxf.
awgy qusIN iliKaf hY ik myry muqfbk iewQy mfVy kMm krky bMdf
mrn ipwCoN anykF jUnF ivwc pY ky dwK Bogdf hY. iewQy duK kOx Bogdf hY? jfhrf qOr
qy mrn ipwCoN srIr nUM sfV idwqf jFdf hY jF dÌn kr idwqf jFdf hY. jy afqmf nUM
duwK Bogxf pYNdf hY jo iewk srIr qoN dUjy srIr ivwc jnm lY lYNdI hY qF ieh duK
prmfqmf Kud hI Bog irhf hY ikAuNik afqmf prmfqf dI hI aMÈ hY.
jrnYl isMG jI! ikAuNik ieh sfrf sMsfr Aus nyN afpxy afp qoN
hI bxfieaf hY. aqy hr jIv aqy hr vsqU ivwc Auh afp hI ivafpk hY. ies leI sfry
jIvF ivwc duwK suK Bogx vflf vI Auh afp hI hY. pr sB kfsy ivwc ivafpk huMidaF
hoieaF vI sfiraF qoN inrlyp vI hY. ies leI Auh sfry duwKF suwKF qoN inrlyp vI
hY. gurU sfihb kihMdy hn:
acrj kQf mhf anUp] pRfqmf pfrbRhm kf rUp] nf iehu bUZf n iehu
bflf] nf ies duK nhIN jm jflf] nf iehu ibnsY nf iehu jfie] afid jugfdI rihaf
smfie] 1] nf iesu Ausnu nhI iesu sIqu] n iesu dusmnu nf iesu mIq] nf ies hrKu
nhI iesu sog] sBu ikCu ies kf iehu krny jogu] 2] nf iesu bfpu nhI iesu mfieaf]
iehu aprMpru hoqf afieaf] pfp puMn kf iesu lypu n lfgY] Gt Gt aMqir sd
hI jfgY] 3] (pMnf-868). sfry srIrF ivwc ivafpk ho ky vI sfiraF qoN
inrlyp vI hY. dUjI gwl ik gurmq anusfr ibnf srIr qoN jIvfqmf df koeI vjUd nhIN
mMinaf igaf. mrn ipwCoN bMdf jF qF jnm mrn dy gyV qoN mukqI pf lYNdf hY jF (iesy
DrqI qy) iksy jIv dI jUn ivwc pY jFdf hY. ijs jIv dI jUn ivwc Auh jnm lYNdf hY
Ausy ivwc hI Auh duwK suK Bogdf hY. mrn ipwCoN srIr nUM sfVo jF dwbo jF kuwJ vI
hor kro ies nUM kuwJ Ìrk nhIN pYNdf. ieh sn quhfzy svflF dy jvfb.
not- jrnYl isMG jI! hux quhfzy koeI vI svfl hox qF mYN jo
ipCly keI pwqrF ivwc gurbfxI hvfly idwqy hn pihlF AunHF dy arQ krky dwsxy. Pyr
afpxy svfl pyÈ krny. ikAuN ik mYN afpxy sfry ivcfr gurbfxI dy aDfr qy pyÈ kIqy
hn. arQ krky dwsxf ik gurbfxI df kI Purmfn hY? quhfzy svfl ÈurU hox qoN pihlF
myry pyÈ kIqy gurbfxI hvfilaF dy arQ kIqy jfxy jrUrI hn. nhIN qF quhfzy iksy vI
svfl df jvfb nhIN idwqf jfvygf. aqy smJ ilaf jfvy gf ik quhfnUM gurbfxI qy Brosf
nhIN afpxy hI GVy hoey ivcfrF qy bihs krI jfxI cfhuMdy ho.
jrnYl isMG jI! afpF iewQy gurmq ivwc pey BulyiKaF bfry ivcfr
krn leI iewkTy huMdy hF. koeI dfv-pyc Kyz ky iksy nUM Êlq sfbq krn leI nhIN. aqy
nf hI afpF nUM iksy vI swjx dy ivcfrF nUM nËr-aMdfj krnf cfhIdf hY. ipCly idnIN
sIql isMG jOhl jI ny afpxy 10-12-08 qrIk dy pwqr ivwc quhfnUM kuwJ svfl kIqy sn
ijnHF dy jvfb dyx dI bjfie qusIN ilK idwqf sI ik XkIn rwKo quhfzy svflF dy jvfb
jrUr idwqy jfx gy. pr qusIN hjy qwk AunHF dy svflF dy jvfb nhIN idwqy. mYN mMndf
hF ik aYsf nhIN hY ik quhfzy kol AunHF dy svflF dy jvfb nhIN hn ies leI qusIN
jvfb nhIN idwqy. pr mYN ieh vI smJdf hF ik qusIN jvfb ikAuN nhIN idwqf. pr gurmq
bfry ivcfr krn ligaF iksy iksm dIaF clfkIaF krnIaF jfieË nhIN hn. jy qusIN ies
qrHF dIaF gymF Kyzogy qF quhfzy svflF dy jvfb dyx lwigaF vI koeI kih skdf hY ik
ieMqËfr kro quhfzy svflF dy jvfb jrUr idwqy jfx gy. so pihlF sIql isMG jI dy
svflF dy jvfb idwqy jfx qF imhrbfnI hovygI. Buwl cuk leI muafPI cfhuMdf hF.
DMnvfd.
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vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
pRo[ gurbcn isMG (QfeIlYNz vfly) jIE
quhfnUM kuwJ bynqIaF:
qusF iliKaf:
afpInY
Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf]
vzf hoaf dunIdfru gil sMglu Giq clfieaf]
agY krxI kIriq vfcIaY bih lyKf kir smJfieaf]
QfAu n hovI pAudIeI huix suxIaY ikaf rUafieaf]
min aMDY jnmu gvfieaf]
afsf dI vfr pMnf 464
—
awKrIN arQF qoN ieMj hI mihsUs huMdf hY ik ikqy awgy ies df
ihsfb ikqfb hoxf hY. sMgÜ qF iËAuNdy mnuwK dy gÜ hI pfieaf jf skdf hY. jdoN sfzy
srIr dy hvf rUpI svfs nfl hvf nfÜ hI rÜ gey srIr imwtI dI ZyrI ho igaf qF iPr
srIrk qÜ `qy sMgÜ nhIN pfieaf jf skdf.
jy koeI mnuwK smfj, prvfr qoN igrI hoeI Gtnf krdf hY qF smfj,
prvfr Aus nUM muafÌ nhIN krdf, Auh afpxy aMqr afqmy qy vI ÈrimMdf huMdf hY ---
aYsI klf n KyzIaY ijqu drgh gieaf hfrIaY]
gurbfxI ivwc ijQy ihsfb ikqfb dI gl hY, Auh ihsfb ikqfb smfj
jF Grvfly krdy hn. jy koeI mnuwK
smfj, prvfr qoN igrI hoeI Gtnf krdf hY qF smfj, prvfr Aus nUM muafÌ nhIN krdf.
srdfr jI qusIN ikhVy pirvfr dI jF ikhVy smfj dI gl krdy ho? Auh smfj ijs ny iXsU
msIh nUM kRfs qy iklF nfl Tukvf ijMdf jI kql kIqf. Auh smfj ijs ny gurU arjn dyv
jI nUM qwqI qvI qy ibTf AuqoN grm grm ryq pfeI. Auh smfj ijs ny BfeI mnI isMG
nUM bMd bMd kt ky ÈhId kIqf. Auh smfj ijs ny bMdf isMG bhfdr dy ÈrIr dI skIn nUM
grm grm jMmUrF nfl noicaf qy AunHF dy cfr sfl dy Èfihbjfdy nUM kql kr krky Aus
df mfsUm ijgr Aus dy bhfdr ipqf dy mUMh ivwc pfieaf. Auh smfj ijs dy bfdÈfh
hmyÈf hI (afm qOr qy) rfKiÈÈ ibrqI vfly rhy.
srdfr sfihb dso kI aijhf smfj iks nUM sjf dyvygf. swcy nUM jF
JUTy nUM. aijhf smfj iks df ihsfb ikqfb krygf? .
iewk swcf sucf pirvfr jF mmfj ikQoN lY
ky afvogy ijhVf iksy doÈI mnuwK df lyKf joKf krygf. mYN qF aijhf swcf sucf
pirvfr jF smfj ikqy nhIN vyiKaf.
iek vfr mYN pitafly dI iksy bjfr dI glI ivwc dI lMG irhf sI
qF AuQy do bwcy bVI bUrI qrHf glI gloc huMdy hoey lVH rhy sn. myry qoN irhf nf
igaf. mYN AunHF df bcfaf krn leI AunHF ivwc KVHf ho igaf. Auh iewk dm ÈFq ho
gey, mYnUM bVI hYrfnI hoeI ik ienHF ny iewk dm lVHfeI Kqm ikvyN kr idqI. mYN
puiCaf
‘puwqr
qusIN lVH ikAuN rhy sI’ AunHF
Auqr idqf ‘aMkl asIN lVH nhIN
sI rhy, asIN qF zrfmy dI rihsl kr rhy sF’
myrI Auqsukqf hor vwD geI. mYN puiCaf ‘puwqr
ieho ijhf gMdf zrfmy dI rihsl dI tryinMg quhfnUM kox dy irhf hY. AunHF Auqr idqf
‘aMkl dr asl ieh lfiev zrfmf hY
jo ik aksr hI sfzy Gr sfzy mmI pfpf afiPs qoN af ky sfzy Gr ivwc hI krdy hn’
ieho ijhf hY sfzf smfj, sfzf pirvfr qy asIN afp. aYQy kox iks
df ihsfb ikqfb krygf? ies hmfm ivwc sfry hI __________ hn. gurbfxI anusfr sfrf
sMsfr iqRÈnf dI agnI ivwc jl irhf hY. koeI BfgF vflf hI bicaf hY.
kfmu kRoDu ahMkfru gfKro sMjim kAun CuitE rI] suir nr dyv
asur qRY gunIaf sglo Bvnu luitE rI] 1] dfvf agin bhuqu iqRx jfly koeI hiraf bUtu
rihE rI] 384[
qF srdfr jI ibafn krnf ik mfieaf dI agn ivwc rfK hoey sMsfr
ivwc ikMnI ku qfkq ho skdI hY iksy hor jly hoey iensfn Auqy inrml jl dy iCty pf
sky.
myrI iewk inmfxI ijhI gujfirÈ hY igafnI jIE jdoN vI gurbfxI
dy arQ krn bYTo qF jrHf soc smJ ky krnf.
qusF afpxy afrtIkl ivwc aMqr afqmy dI vI gl kIqI hY.
jy koeI mnuwK smfj,
prvfr qoN igrI hoeI Gtnf krdf hY qF smfj, prvfr Aus nUM muafÌ nhIN krdf, Auh
afpxy aMqr afqmy qy vI ÈrimMdf huMdf hY -- iewk pfsy qF qusIN aMqr afqmy
nUM isafxdy nhIN dUjy pfsy qusIN ies df rYPrYNs vI lY rhy ho. ieh ikAuN? jy koeI
aMqr afqmf nfm df pirMdf hY hI nhIN qF iPr mnuwK nUM Èrm iks qoN? kI Èrm ies jl
rhy sMsfr qoN?
aKIr ieh svfl myrIaF pihlIaF icTIaF dy svflF nfl Èfml kr
lYxf. jy PurÈq imly qF jvfb dy dyxf. nhIN qF iPr hor vIrF nUM qkluP krnf pvygf.
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jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
gurcrn isMG jI (ijAuxvflf)
aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.
gurcrn isMG jI! JUT bolx dI jo
ÊusqfÉI myry koloN hoeI hY Aus leI afp pfsoN aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTkF pfsoN muafÌI
cfhuMdf hF. XkIn mMinEN jo kuwJ vI hoieaf hY anjfxy ivwc hI hoieaf hY. ikAuNik
mYnUM hjy qwk ies gwl df aihsfs nhIN hY ik myry koloN ikhVf JUT boilaf (iliKaf)
igaf hY. jy afpxy pwqr ivwc ies bfry jfxkfrI dy idMdy qF ibhqr sI. ikAuNik mYnUM
aMdfjf lgfxf muÈikl ho irhf hY ik qusIN iks JUT dI gwl kr rhy ho? mYnUM byhwd
aÌsos aqy hYrfnIN ho irhf hY. ies leI imhrbfnI krky dwsxf ik qusIN iks JUT dI
gwl kr rhy ho? DMnvfd.
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jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf
S Jasbir Singh Ji
Thanks for your response. This will help us to be on the same
page.
You deny having ever said that God can terminate this cycle
of life on earth at any time. You said it at para three of your article Avagaun
and Gurmat published here on Sikhmarg. In fact this was the first major thing
that in your opinion differentiates Gurmat philosophy about reincarnation from
the one in Hinduism. In your opinion while the cycle continues for ever in
Hinduism it can be terminated by God at any time in Sikhism. You are denying it
now because it does not fit well in your theory of Karma, simply because your
theory is not much different from the one in Hinduism. Your theory of Avagavn or
cycle of birth and death is in fact a cocktail of the concepts of reincarnation
and transmigration of soul. This theory has some underlying assumptions which do
not go well with the philosophy of Sikhism.
1. This theory assumes that each person has something that
outlives the death of a person and passes on to another life. Sikhism clearly
states that at the time of death all elements go back where they come from and
nothing has come from anywhere at the time birth and nothing goes out at the
time of death. Look at the following verse from Guru Arjan
rfmklI mhlf 5] pvnY mih pvnu smfieaf] joqI mih joiq ril
jfieaf] mftI mftI hoeI eyk] rovnhfry kI kvn tyk] 1
]
kAunu mUaf ry kAunu mUaf] bRhm igafnI imil krhu bIcfrf iehu qAu clqu Bieaf] 1]
rhfAu] aglI ikCu Kbir n pfeI] rovnhfru iB AUiT isDfeI] Brm moh ky bFDy bMD]
supnu Bieaf BKlfey aMD] 2]
iehu qAu rcnu ricaf krqfir] afvq jfvq hukim apfir] nh ko mUaf n mrxY jogu] nh
ibnsY aibnfsI hogu] 3]
jo iehu jfxhu so iehu nfih] jfnxhfry kAu bil jfAu] khu nfnk guir Brmu cukfieaf]
nf koeI mrY n afvY jfieaf] 4]
10]
pMnf 885
2. This theory assumes that the soul of each person has a
unique and separate entity. This separate entity migrates from one birth to
another accumulating its Karmas. However Gurmat says in clear terms that same
Jot gives life to every single thing in this universe. Kabeer calls it "Ram Ki
Ans" at page 871 of GGS.
3. This theory assumes that the fruit of our deeds is
obtained in the next life. Even if the sanskars of our deeds are being inscribed
on our inner self throughout our life, the end result (fruit) is obtained only
at the time of death or in the next life. Sikhism probably the first religion in
the world that has not fed its followers with pipedreams about what will happen
in the next life. So much so that even salvation is useless in Sikhism if we get
it after death or in next life.
4. This theory assumes that life as a human being is a
punishment because if a person has not done well in this life he/she will be
reborn either as a human being or as some other specie. Life in Sikhism is
neither an aftermath of the Original Sin by Adam and Ever nor it is a
punishment, but it is rare blessing, the one and only opportunity to be one with
the creator.
5. This theory assumes that the lesser species can outperform
humans in the service of God as some species can do deeds to deserve to be born
as human beings while some human can not pull out a performance even to deserve
a rebirth as a human being. Gurmat does not support this. That is by life as a
human being has been called Durlabh.
6. This theory assumes that there can be millions of chances
for a person to be born as a human being and please God. A person who has not
done well in life is penalized by denying salvation and is forced to be reborn
as human being or some other specie. Technically this person can be born as a
human for infinite number of times.
7. This theory assumes having perfect and full knowledge of
what happens to a person or soul after he or she dies. However our Guru has
denied this categorically. Death and birth are most important moments in life.
Clever people have exploited this fact to their benefit. All this fuss about
heaven, hell, reincarnation is, to put it in simple words, a way to exploit
weakness of mankind to win over death. Guru advises us to accept the reality of
death as this is what will motivate us to make the most of this life. Farid puts
it beautifully;
jy jfxf mir jfeIaY Guim n afeIaY] JUTI dunIaf lig n afpu
vÖfeIaY] 2
]
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The theories of reincarnation, transmigration, doomsday,
heaven and hell are all designed to hoodwink mankind into a sweet slumber and
continue being exploited
Your Questions
1
Yes each one of us is accountable for whatever we
do. But all this happens in this life itself. Nothing carries over to the "next"
life. We don’t have to go far to know the truth. Do something good and see if
you don’t get the reward. Do something bad, and see if you go scot-free or get
the due punishment. Do not judge it what is happening to others in your
neighbourhood, as we might err here because only God and the person who does the
deeds know the truth.
2
Since I have said yes to your first question, this
question is redundant.
3
Prayer does have its significance. But this is a
separate subject.
4
You asked this question many times. I replied this
many times. For me when Guru says that human life is rare (Dulabh), it means we
do not get it time and again. However you seem to be so obsessed with the next
life that you tend to overlook this overwhelming evidence. Here are some more
proofs from Gurbani.
mfns dyh bhuir nh pfvY kCU AupfAu mukiq kf kru ry] nfnk khq
gfie krunf mY Bvsfgr kY pfir Auqru ry] 2
]
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pMnf 220
] zKxy mÚ 5] afgfhf kU qRfiG ipCf Pyir n muhzVf] nfnk isiJ
ievyhf vfr bhuiV n hovI jnmVf] 1
]
pMnf 1096
iehI qyrf aAusru ieh qyrI bfr] Gt BIqir qU dyKu ibcfir] khq
kbIru jIiq kY hfir] bhu ibiD kihE pukfir pukfir] 5
]
1]
9]
pMnf 1159
kbIr mfns jnmu dulµBu hY hoie n bfrY bfr] ijAu bn Pl pfky
Buie igrih bhuir n lfgih zfr] 30
]
pMnf 1366
5
You are asking me what does Gurbani says about a
person who has amassed huge wealth by hook or crook. Gurbani clearly says that
such persons are on the wrong path and will suffer immensely and they do. It has
been stated in the very first stanza of Japp. Bhukhia Bhukh Na Utre---Bhar.
6
You are asking me why some persons are born into a
poor family are struggling to make their both ends meet while others are born in
rich families and rolling in wealth. I don’t think Gurbani measures happiness
with the yardstick of riches. Do you think George Bush is the happiest person in
this World? Or do you think Warren Buffet is the happiest person in his life? In
my first response I gave you examples of celebrities rolling in wealth
committing suicides as they could no longer bear the pain of their lives.
Whether a person is poor or rich, the road is the same as far as spiritual
journey is concerned. Bhagat Ravidas was born in a poor family. Guru Nanak was
born in a rich family. Both of them travelled the same distance. None of them
were underprivileged compared to each other as for as their spiritual journey is
concerned. If you think that a person is born in a rich or poor family because
of his past Karmas, then how would you explain the rags to riches and riches to
rags stories?
Some Question to you now.
1 S Jasbir Singh ji, you agree that the system of Karma
started at the time of second generation of species and the first generation of
species were born without any help form this system. So far you have not
explained;
·
Why God would start this system at all when he did
not require it for the first time. Is it not the case that it was not God who
needed it but some one else who created this to exploit the masses.
·
Secondly if God created all the species at the same
time for the first generation, and as per you birth into these lesser species is
a punishment for bad deeds, why God would punish those creatures for nothing.
·
If God did not create all the species at one go,
then did he start from the lower end of this hierarchy of species or the upper
end? Do we have any quote in Gurbani that substantiates any one of these views?
2 You are saying that this theory of Karma is incomplete
without the concept of Hukam and prayer.
·
Would you be able to
explain how do these two concepts complement each other? Sometimes you say that
Hukam operates as per Karma and sometimes you say Karma operates as per Hukam.
3 I agree with you that God can terminate the process of life
on this earth at any time and has done it in the past. You have quoted in
support of this and there are other quotes to support this. For example in
Sukhmani Sahib it is said Kayee vaar passrio passar. Now this concept of Gurmat
does not fit well with your theory of Avagaun. So my question is
·
What will happen to those who have committed
heinous crimes and done abominable deeds in this life before this cycle is
terminated by God? Do they go scot-free? They will go off the hook for nothing
for sure. On the other hand those who been working hard to please God up until
now will miss the opportunity.
4 You are saying that in case a person does bad karmas in
this life, then he/she will suffer by way of birth into different species. Who
does suffer here? Apparently it is not the body as body is consigned to flames
or entombed. If the suffering is for the soul that migrates from one birth to
another, then God is inflicting this suffering on himself as soul is also said
to be a part of God. So God as per this theory is a masochist.
Regards
Jarnail Singh
Sydney Australia
(16/12/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn
sR[ surjx
isMG qy sR[ jsbIr isMG kYligrI jI gur Pqih pRvfn krnI.
pMizqvfd kI hY? sR[ surjx isMG
jI pMizq dy jo arQ qusIN BfeI kfhn isMG nfBf dy mhfnkos muqfbk ilKy hn Auh
iblkul TIk hn. pr pMizqvfv dy arQ quhfnUM lwBy nhIN. pMizq qfrf isMG inroqm ny
jo kuwJ iliKaf qy PYlfieaf Auh hY pMizqvfd. pMizq igXfnI nrYx isMG jI ny dsm
gRMQ dy arQ kIqy jo kuwJ vI hor iliKaf ijs nfl iswK Drm ivwc rlf ipaf Auh hY
pMizqvfd. lokF nuM qIrQF dy iesnfn krn dy Pl dwsxy hY pMizqvfd. jdoN ik gurbxI
aYsy qIrQF dy ieÈnfnF df KMzn krdI hY. muwl dy pfT krfAux vfsqy pRyrnf krnf hY
pMizqvfd jdoN ik ieh iswK Drm ivwc kbUl nhIN. lokF nUM ieh smJfAuxf ky hr mnuwK
idhfVI `c 24, 000 svfs lYNdf hY qy bfxI ‘suKmnI’ dy 24, 000 awKr hn, pVHo qy
svfs sPly kro, ieh hY pMizqvfd. gurU gRMQ sfihb dy pIhVy dy pfvy Gutxy, rumfly
cuk ky drÈn krny qy krfAuxy, dyg lY ky socxf ky hux mYN pivqr ho igaf hF, hY
pMizqvfd. gurbxI dy Ault mrn qoN bfad afqmf inkl ky iksy kuwqy ibly `c pRvyÈ
krdI hY, df pRcfr krnf hY pMizvfd. 84 lwK jUnF ivwc ivÈvfs krnf hY pMizqvfd. mrn
qoN bfad dy awgy ivwc ivsvfs krnf hY pMizqvfd.
gurU nfnk sfihb dy isDFq dy Ault jo vI kuwJ ho irhf hY Auh hY pMizqvfd. gurU
nfnk sfihb ny pMizq dI hr gwl nUM kwitaf Eh hY iswK Drm. dUsry pfsy mnuwKqf df
Gfx krn vflI hr gwl hY pMizqvfd. iewtF roiVaF nUM pUjxf, byrIaF nUM mwQy tykxf,
iksy prfxI dy mrn qoN bfad ardfs krnI ik ies pVHI suxI df Bfv ivCVI hoeI afqmf
qk phuMcfAuxf, jdoN ik Aus jIv ny ijAuNdy jIa kdy bfxI smJI hI nhIN qy hux AusdI
afqmf bfxI df Bfv smJygI, hY pMzqvfd.
ardfs qy lylVIaF kwZx ivwc aMqr hY.
‘asIN’ df mqlb hY ijhVy mnuwK pMizqvfd ivwc ivÈvfs nhIN krdy. mYN ieklf
nhIN. aYsI soc vfly hËfrF hn ijhVy ieh socdy hn ik mnuwKQf dy Bly leI clfieaf
bfby nfnk df pMQ ikvyN pMizqvfd, jwQydfrF, XunIvristI dy pRoPYsrF, tksflF
zyrydfrF ny AuDfl ilaf hY. Auh Drm iswK Drm nhIN ijs nfl mnuwKqf ivcoN zr bfhr
nhIN inkldf qy mnuwKqf df Blf nhIN huMdf.
sR[ surjn isMG jI pihlF pRo[ sfihb isMG jI dy tIky vwl nËr mfro qy iPr ieh kihxf
ik brYktF ivwc awKr ikhVI ivafkrx muqfbk GsoVy hn. asIN PrIdkotIey tIky nUM iswK
Drm nUM lwigaf gRhx smJdy hF.
PrIdkotIaF dy tIky dI khfxI:
mYN PrIdkot nfl sbMiDq hox krky ies khfxI nUM cMgI qrHf jfxdf hF. 20vIN sdI dy
ÈurU ivwc jdoN PrIdkotIey rfjy ny gurU gRMQ sfihb dy arQ krvfAux bfry dUijaF
rfijaF nfl slfh kIqI qF kpUrQly dy rfjy df numfiedf bx ky pRo[ gurmuK isMG
PrIdkot afieaf. pMizq bdn isMG dfKf qy pMizq krqfr isMG dfKf dy nfl hor pMizqF
nUM dyK ky Ausny KrVy dI mMg kIqI. ienHF pMizqF dy KrVy nUM dyK ky pRo[ gurmuK
isMG ny ienHF nfl imlky gurU gRMQ sfihb dy arQ krn qoN ienkfr kr idwqf qy ienHF
pMizqF ny iehI ikhf ik sfzf bhumwq hY quhfnUM ies ivwc Èfml hoxf hI peygf. pRo[
gurmuK isMG ny ikhf ik ieh klMk mYN afpxy mwQy qy nhIN lgfvFgf qy Auh vfps clf
igaf. jy kr qusIN PrIdkotIey tIky dy ÈokIn ho qF hux smJ lE ik qusIN kI pVH rhy
ho?
‘vis’ dy do mqlb hn. iek qF ieh ik prmfqmf iksy dy vws ivwc nhIN afAuNdf qy dUjf
hY ik Auh BgqF dy idlF ivwc vwsdf hY, mqlb BgqF nUM prmfqmf dy guxF df igafn hY.
rwb BgqF dy vI vws ivwc nhIN. rwb iksy dy vI vws ivwc nhIN.
sR[ jsbIr isMG kYligrI jI cMgf hoieaf quhfzI ilKq qoN sfnUM ieh pqf cwilaf ik
mOky muqfbk qusIN JUT vI boldy ho.
gurU pMQ df dfs,
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.
(16/12/08)
surjx isMG
sRI ipRMsIpl igafnI surjIq isMG
isK imsLnrI idlI jI,
quhfzy lyK pVHy. dfhVI bMnx aqy sRI dsm gRMQ sfihb bfry. qusIN iliKaf hY ik gurU
sfihb bfxI qF kdy kdy Aucfrdy sn pr AunHF afpxy jIvn ivcly kfr ivhfr kridaF hor
vI bQyrf kuJ iliKaf qy boilaf hovygf ijs
dI koeI vukq nhIN hY. quhfzy muqfbk bfxI qoN ielfvf isK leI koeI hor cIjL koeI
aihmIaq nhIN rKdI.
quhfzIaF ienHF gwlF ‘coN keI sLMky Aupjdy hn:
surjx isMG
brnflLf klF
(not:- surjx
isMG jI jy kr qusIN iksy ivsLy bfry koeI ivcfr crcf krnf cfhuMdy ho qF iksy
nukqy qy TIk ivcfr kro nf ik gwl df kuwJ hor hI bxf ky pfxI ivc mDfxI pf ky
afpxf qy hor pfTkF/lyKkF df smf Krfb kro. PrId kotI tIky bfry jF dsm gRMQ bfry
koeI ivcfr crcf krnf cfhuMdy ho qF jI sdky kro. ies bfry asIN quhfnUM jI afieaF
kihMdy hF. quhfzI icwTI df asIN pihlf iek pYrf hI pfieaf hY ies nfl sMbMiDq 6
sLMky nhIN. ikAuNik srjIq isMG imsLnrI ny qF kuwJ hor qrHF iliKaf hY pr qusIN
Aus df kuwJ hor hI bxf idwqf hY. quhfzI aqy pfTkF dI jfxkfrI leI asIN Auh pYrf
hyTF pf rhy hF-sMpfdk)
gurU sfihbfn dI
vI hryk glbfq, gurbfxI nhIN sI huMdI qy nf hI gurU sfihb hr smyN bfxI Aucfrdy qy
rcdy hI sn. AuhnF vloN pRvfrk, ivhfrk, smfjk, afm bolcfl, glbfq, ivcfr-ivtFdry,
icwTI pqR afid vI huMdy sn. iÌr vI gurbfxI vflf drjf kyvl Ausy rcnf nUM dyNdy,
ijs nUM gurdyv “vfhu vfhu bfxI inrMkfr hY” (pM: 515) jF “Dur kI bfxI afeI” (pM:
628) anusfr Xog mMndy. (k) smyN-smyN `qy loV anusfr gurdyv sMgqF leI sMdyÈ,
afdyÈ, pqRkfvF Byjdy, ijnHF nUM asIN siqkfr nfl hukmnfmy kihMdy hF. ieQoN qIk ik
BfeI nMd lfl isMG dy dsmyÈ jI nfl pRÈn-Auqr vI imldy hn. iesy qrHF BfeI gurdfs
dIafN rcnfvF, gurmiq pRmfxF vjoN qF hn pr gurbfxI nhIN, ikAuNik pfqÈfh ny AuhnF
nUM nf hI “gurU gRMQ sfihb jI” aMdr dfiKl kIqf qy nf hI AuhnF nUM nf gurbfxI
vflf drjf idwqf.
(15/12/08)
kulbIr isMG ‘akfl gVH’
kqrf kqrf
aMimRq df
‘nfnk inrml pMQ’ dI pfkIËgI df
afDfr ‘aMimRq bfxI hir hir qyrI’ hY. ijsnUM gurU arjun sfihb jI ny ‘hmfrI ipafrI
aMimRqDfrI’ vI ikhf hY. gurU nfnk pfqÈfh dy ÌlsPy dI ivafiKaf leI gurbfxI qoN
ibnHF iksy hor gRMQ, ikqfb jF sfKI nUM afDfr bnfAuxf aXog hovygf. gurbfxI afpxy
isDfqF dI afp hI ivafiKaf krdI hY. gurbfxI ivcly rmË qy rhs nUM qdoN hI smiJaf
jf skdf hY jdoN vIcfr df afDfr ‘gurpRsfid’ rfhIN ‘ÃÄ ‘hovygf. isDFq rihq
mnoklipq sfKIaF sunfAux `c mfihr guriekbfl isMG (mfqf kOlF BlfeI kyNdr vfly) ny
ibjleI mfiDamF rfhIN vI gurU-isDFqF dI rwj ky inrfdrI krn df bIVf cuwikaf hoieaf
hY. ies kyNdr ny iewk nvIN Dfrimk iÌlm “kqrf kqrf aMimRq df” pyÈ kIqI hY. iÌlm
ivwc “kfghu hMsu kryie” dI rmË nUM jfx-buwJ ky axizwT kridaF klipq sfKI nUM
afDfr bxf ky aMimRqsr srovr dI mhfnqf nUM byloVf pRcfrn df Xqn kIqf igaf hY qy
dUsrf ‘ijMnHIaF koeI pfQIaF pwQ ky guru-Gr syvf krygf, Auny hI puwqr pYdf hoxgy’
df JUTf vr gurU dy muwK qoN kZfAux dI koJI cfl cwlI geI hY. srovr dy pfxI nUM
‘aMimRq’ kihxf, aMimRqmeI bfxI df inrfdr hY. iek kohVI, kfvF nUM icwty hMs
huMidaF vyKdf hY qy afp vI Aus `c ieÈnfn krky, qMdrusq ho ky ‘DMn gurU rfmdfs’
jI df nF Aucfrdf hY. jdoN ik ‘kfghu hMsu kryie’ slok gurU nfnk pfqÈfh jI df
AuWcfrn kIqf hoieaf pfvn aMk 91 AuWpr drj hY. iesdf Bfv hoieaf ik gurU nfnk
sfihb jI qoN pihlF koeI aYsI khfxI pRcwilq sI, ijsdf idRÈtFq guru jI ny vriqaf
hY. pr iÌlm muqfibk kfvF nUM hMs bxdy aMimRqsr srovr dy smyN idKfieaf igaf,
ijhVf srovr cOQy pfqÈfh jI dy vkq iqafr hoieaf. iewQy kfl BMg doÈ nUM iDafn `c
rwiKaf jfvy. jy gurbfxI `c rmË vwjoN vrqy gey idRÈtfqF nUM isDFq bxf ky pyÈ krnf
hY qF guru jI ny qF CwpVf qy koielF nfl gwlF kIqIaF hn. Auh CwpV ikhVf sI qy
ikwQy hY? Auh koiel ikwQoN dI rihx vflI sI? Auprokq ivÈy nUM gurbfxI asUlF
muqfibk priKaF ieh kihxf pvygf ik iehnF aKOqI bfibaF ny “kqrf kqrf krqf aMimRq
df”. gurbfxI-igafn aMimRq df pRcfr krn dI QF pfxI df pRcfr kIqf jf irhf hY.
dUsry idRÈ anusfr iehnF muqfibk kihxf pvygf ik BrUx hwiqaf dy mfmly `c sB qoN
vwzf hwQ guru-Gr df hY. ikAuNik iehnF aKOqI sMq-juMzlI ny gurUaF dy muwKoN vI
puwqr hox dy vr (bÉiÈs) dIaF mnGVq gwlF nUM pRcfiraf hY, ikDry kuVI df muMzf bxf
idwqf, ikDry iewk isdkI qy igafnvfn iswK nUM vI puwqrF df dfnI bxf ky pyÈ kr
idwqf, ikDry pfQIaF dI igxqI anusfr puwqr hox dIaF sfKIaF nUM BolI-BflI jnqf dy
kMnF `c pfieaf jf irhf hY. ‘gur kI syvf sbdu vIcfru] aqy ‘izTY mukiq n hoveI
ijcru sbid n kry vIcfru]’ nUM pfsy krky mMqrF vFg bfxI df pfT, mflF PyrnIaF,
srIirk rogF df ielfj gurbfxI rfhIN’ df BrmfAU pRpMc krn `c ieh sMpRdfvF awgy
inkldIaF jf rhIaF hn. jy srIirk rogF dI inivrqI leI dvfeI dI koeI ËrUrq nhIN qF
gurU-Gr ny dvfÉfny ikAuN KolHy? mfihr vYd ikAuN rwKy? iehnF svflF dy juafb
lwBidaF sfnUM sucyq hox dI loV hY ik asIN “aMimRq bfxI” nUM kqrq-kuqrn `c iehnF
dy BfgIdfr nf bxIey.
kulbIr isMG ‘akfl gVH’
gurmiq pRcfr kyNdr, ijAux vflf
98555-02309
(14/12/08)
surjx isMG
s[ gurcrn isMG jIAUx vflf bRYNptn jI,
qusIN s[ jsbIr isMG nUM ilKy Éq ivwc Éud nUM
‘asIN’
iliKaf hY. ikrpf krky ilKxf ies
‘asIN’
df kI mqlb hY?
dUjf qusIN iewk hor Èbd
‘pMizqvfd’iesqymfl
kIqf hY.
pMizq dy arQ mhfnkoÈ ivwc ievyN hn:
“ivdÍfn, gÎfnI,
ibnu ibidaf khf koeI pMizq. sMgÎf- ivdÎf ivwc inpux purK, jo ieMdRIaF ijwqdf hY,
Drm afcfr krdf hY[ Auh pMizq hY”.
jy iksy ÈÉs `qy aijhf
‘pMizqvfd’
BfrU ho jfvy qF Auh
burf ikvyN
hY?
qusIN Éq ivwc ieh pfvn pMgqI df hvflf idqf hY:
“sBu ko qyrY vis agm agocrf] qU
Bgqf kY vis Bgqf qfxu qyrf]”
qusIN ies dy arQ ievyN ilKy hn: “hy aphuMc qy agocr pRBU!
hryk jIv qyry aDIn hY (iehnF ivKfvy dy azMbrF nfl koeI jIv qyrI pRsMnqf pRfpq
nhIN kr skdf)[ qUµ isrÌ AuhnF Auqy
rIJdf
hYN jo sdf qyrf ismrn krdy hn, (ikAuNik) qyrf Bjn-ismrn krn vfilaF ƒ (isrÌ) qyrf
afsrf-prnf huMdf hY”.
ies ivwc brYktF vfly vfDU lÌË GsoVn df iksy nUM kI hwk hY aqy
ieh ikhVI ivafkrx muqfbk GsoVy gey hn?
ÜÌË
‘vis’ aqy
‘qfxu’ dy arQ
‘rIJdf’
aqy
‘afsrf -– prnf’ ikhVy koÈ muqfbk hn?
ÌrIdkotI stIk ivwc ies dy ieh arQ hn:
“hy agm agocrf sB koeI qyry vs hY
aOr qUM BgqF ky vs hYN BgqF ko qyrf hI bl hY”.
ÌrIdkotI arQ sRI sfihb isMG jI qoN pihlF hoey hn. iehnF nUM
bdlx dI kI loV peI? iehnF `c ikhVI ÊlqI hY? iehnF nUM smJx `c ikhVI muÈikl hY?
jy ho sky qF ieh vI dwsxf ik
ardfs
aqy
igVigVfAuxf
ieko gwl hY?
dfs kfÌI icr qoN isKmfrg dyKdf hY pr ilK pihlI vfrI irhf hF.
ho sky qF Cfp dyxf.
dfsrf,
surjx isMG
brnfÜf klF
(14/12/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
gurcrn isMG jI (ijAuxvflf)
aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.
gurcrn isMG jI! qusIN TIk iliKaf hY ik asl ivwc mYN ieh
mMinaF nhIN ik gurbfxI ivwc ijwQy vI agY jF afgY Èbd afieaf hY Auh isrP iesy jnm
ivwc afAux vfly smyN leI hI afieaf hY. mYN idloN mMnF jF nf ies nfl quhfnUM myry
svflF df jvfb dyx ivwc kI Prk pYdf hY? gurcrn isMG jI! ieh BulyKf idmfÊ’ coN kwZ
idAu ik qusIN jF mYN jF koeI vI hor lyKk ijnHF dI ivcfr crcf iewQy cwl rhI hY
iksy dUsry lyKk dy iksy iewk vI ivcfr nUM bdl skFgy. ies ivcfr crcf df mksd eynf
hI smJo ik iewQy vwK vwK lyKkF dy ivcfr pfTk pVH ky gurbfxI nUM Koj ky pVHn leI
pRyirq hMdy hn. aqy hr pfTk nyN afpxy ihsfb nfl TIk Êlq df PYslf krnf hY.
quhfzy kol myry 10+1 svflF ivwcoN iksy iewk df vI jvfb nhIN
hY. agY aqy afgY vflf qusIN isrP bhfnf hI GiVaf hoieaf sI ijs nUM dUr krn leI
mYN mMn ilaf sI ik clo agY aqy afgY df arQ quhfzy khy muqfbk iesy jnm ivwc afAux
vfly smyN leI hI mMn lYNdy hF. ies qrHF mMnx nfl quhfzy khy muqfbk myry sfry
svflF dy jvfb afpy af jfxy cfhIdy sI pr jvfb iewk svfl df vI nhIN afieaf. afpxy
afp jvfb afAuxy ikwQoN sI? qusIN Byjo gy qF hI afAux gy nf. aslI gwl qF ieh hY
ik myry sfry svfl ‘aglf-ipClf jnm’ nf mMnx krky hI pYdf hoey hn. ijs kfrx qoN
svfl pYdf hoey hn Ausy hI kfrx qoN jvfb afpy iks qrHF af skdy hn? myry idloN ies
gwl nUM nf mMnx nfl kI Prk pYNdf hY? nf hI myry iksy svfl ivwc agY jF afgY Èbd
afieaf hY ijs nfl jvfb dyx ivwc koeI rukfvt huMdI.
hux qusIN iewk kMm kro qusIN idloN cfhy nf mMnoN, iewk vfrIN
ieh qswvur krky dyKo ik ies jnm qoN agy jnm huMdf hY. Pyr qusIN myry svflF qy
ivcfr kro aqy dyKo jvfb afpxy afp afAuNdy hn ik nhIN. jy nhIN afAuNdy qF mYnUM
dwsxf, mYN dwsF gf ik jvfb afpxy afp afAuNdy hn ik nhIN.
qusIN iliKaf hY ik myrI ilKq ivwc afpf ivroDI gwlF hn ijnHF
df mYN jvfb nhIN dyxf cfhuMdf qF nf shI qusIN pfTkF nUM sucyq krn df kMm kr rhy
ho. gurcrn isMG jI! qusIN pfTkF nUM eyny Boly smJ rwiKaf hY ik qusIN kih idwqf
aqy Auh mMn lYx gy? quhfzIaF vI aqy myrIaF vI sfrIaF ilKqF hjy iewQy sfiet qy hI
peIaF hn. kI AunHF nUM Buwl igaf hY jF Auh pVH nhIN skdy ik jvfb kOx nhIN dy
irhf. quhfzI isafxp qoN vfry vfry jfeIey, jvfb qusIN myry svflF df afp nhIN dy
rhy Aultf pfTkF nUM BulyKf pf ky afpxI lwq Aupr rwK rhy ho qF ik quhfnUM myry
svflF df jvfb nf dyxf pvy, ijs qrHF ik qusIN awgy ilKdy afey ho “jvfb nhIN
afieaf”. ijhVI myrI ilKq ivwc afpf ivroDI gwlF dI qusIN gwl kr rhy ho ieh sfry
svfl jrnYl isMG jI nfl cwl rhI myrI ivcfr crcf ivwc afey hn ienHF bfry quhfzy
ilKy sfry svfl aqy AunHF dy hor vI svfl af jfx gy. ivcfr crcf hjy jfrI hY AunHF
nUM mYN koeI jvfb nf idwqf hovy jF jvfb nf idaF Auh afpy myry koloN puwC lYx gy.
iksy hor dI afV lY ky qusIN myry svflF df jvfb dyx qoN Bwj nhIN skdy. AumId krdf
hF ik quhfzy agly pwqr ivwc koeI hor …[ nhIN blik myry svflF df mUMh-qoV jvfb
afvygf. gurcrn isMG jI! Buwl-cuwk leI muafÌI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
(14/12/08)
avqfr isMG imsLnrI
dfs dI ilKI ieh pihlI isDI sfdI kivqf hY jo 13 dsMbr, 2008 nUM dl KLflsf alfieMs dy pRDfn sR[ prmjIq isMG dfKf dy swdy qy gurduafrf sfihb aYlsbRFty by eyrIey ivKy pVHI geI.
ÓkivqfÓ
siqgurU nfnk df rwbI AupdysL.
ikrq kro, vMz Cko, nfm jpo, ar rwKo brIbI vysu.
jfq-pfq qy CUaf-Cfq, Kqm kro ibprn kI bfq.
kfjLI mulF jo ilK dIaf, Coiz clY hm kCU nf lIaf.
gurU nfnk ny Drm clfieaf, bfkI gurUaF KUb vDfieaf.
Dur kI bfxI ajLb ajLfb, gurUaF BgqF khI jo bfq.
iekf bfxI iek guru, ieko sbid vIcfru.
gurU gRMQ dI srbAucqf, iswKf! mn mih Dfir.
gurU arjn ny gRMQ bxfieaf, BfeI gurdfs pfsoN ilKvfieaf.
bfxI gurU gurU hY bfxI, ieh sMkyq gurF smJfieaf.
siqgurU ibnf kcI hY bfxI.
bfxI qF kcI siqgur bfJoN hor kcI bfxI.
kihMdy kcy suxdy kcy, kcIN afiK vKfxI.
eIsvI sqfrF sO awT, gurU ny kIqf "hjLUr" c’ iekwT.
dyhDfrI df Jgr imtfieaf, sLbd gurU dy crnIN lfieaf.
afigaf BeI akfl kI, qbY clfieE pMQ.
sB isKn kAu hukm hY, gurU mfinEN gRMQ.
gurU gRMQ jI mfinEN, pRgt gurF kI dyh.
jo pRB kAu imlbo chY, Koij sLbd myN lyh.
pr dyhDfrI jo sMq ny Kfs, gurU brfbr bihMdy pfs.
gurU nUM kyvl rumfl cVfAuNdy, bfkI gwl afpxI smJfAuNdy.
ibpr ny jo cwlI cfl, dsm gRMQ vI gurU dy nfl.
ieh nhIN dsm gurU df gRMQ, mhFBfrq df dsm skMd.
krmkFz qy ivsLy ivkfr, gRMQ ieh kihMdf kro hjLfr.
ipAu DI dI sLrm imtfeI, aYsI rcnf ies ivwc pfeI.
awj iswKF df dyKo hfl, gurU nUM Cwz ky iesdy nfl.
gurU gRMQ qy pMQ nUM Cwz ky, zyry jFdy tOhr ny kwZ ky.
bysLrmI dI hwd mukfeI, sfDF crnIN DOx JukfeI.
afE sfry isMGo rlky, afpxy Brm BulyKy kwZky.
gurU gRMQ df krIey pRcfr, qF hF asIN gurU dy nfl.
sMpRdf, zyry sB Cwzky, gurU gRMQ df pwlf PVky.
afp pVHIey qy horF pVfeIey, gurU pMQ dI sLfn vDfeIey.
Gir Gir ho jfey pRcfr, asIN sfry hF gurU dy nfl.
iewk gurU qy iewk ivDfn, iewk pMQ qy iewk insLfn.
afE ies qy mohr lgfeIey, nfnksLfhI kYlMzr mnfeIey.
"imsLnrI" jy afpF hF gurU dy nfl, mubfrk sfzy iqMn sO sfl.
(13/12/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn
sR[ jsbIr isMG jI! gur Pqih
pRIvfn krnI.
jdoN qusIN ieh mMn ilaf ik ‘agY’ jf ‘agy’ df mqlb mOq qoN bfad vflf awgf nhIN qF
quhfzy krmf isDFq nfl sbMiDq qy afqmf nfl sbMiDq sfry svfl hI Kqm ho gey. pr
lgdf ieMÖ hY ik qusIN asl `c ieh mMnI nhIN. ikAuNik quhfzIaF hux vflIaF ilKqF
ivwc vI EhI soc BfrU hY ijs nUM asIN pMizqvfd kihMdy hF.
quhzI afpxI ilKq afpf ivroDI hovy qy qusIN jvfb nf dyvo. clo quhfzI mrjI. mYN qF
pfTkF nUM sucyq krn df kMm krI jfxf hY cfhy jvfb dyvo jf nf.
jI hF gurmq aqy ihMdU mwq dy krm/ afvfgAux isDFq ivfc Prk hY aqy dUsrI gfl gurmq
avqfr Dfrx nUM nhIN mMndI.
jy koeI Prk hY qF kI?
jy kr gurmiq muqfbk krm isDFq aDUrf hY qF ikvyN?
jy kr pihlI vfr jIv ies sMsfr qy krm krn qoN bgYr afieaf hY qF dUjI vfr ikhVI
aiVcn pYdf ho geI iksy jIv nUM iPr qoN ies mnuwKf jIv bxn `c?
quhfzy muqfbk gurmuK jy ardfs kry qF afvfgAux imt skdf hY (mrn qoN bfad vflf).
quhfnUM ieh pqf hY ik afvfgAux prmfqmf ny bxfieaf hY qy prmfqmf dy iksy vI kMm
nUM asIN afpxIaF imnqF qrilaF nfl mnf nhIN skdy. gurU Purmfx ieMÖ hY:
pAuVI] nf qU afvih vis bhuqu iGxfvxy] nf qU afvih vis byd pVfvxy] nf qU afvih
vis qIriQ nfeIaY] nf qU afvih vis DrqI DfeIaY] nf qU afvih vis ikqY isafxpY] nf
qU afvih vis bhuqf dfnu dy] sBu ko qyrY vis agm agocrf] qU Bgqf kY vis Bgqf qfxu
qyrf] 10] {pMnf 962}
hy pRBU ! bhuqy ivKfvy dy qrly ilaF, vyd pVHn pVHfAux nfl, qIrQ Auqy ieÈnfn krn
nfl, (rmqy sfDUaF vFg) sfrI DrqI gfhx nfl, iksy cqurfeI-isafxp nfl, bhuqf dfn
dyx nfl, qUµ iksy jIv dy vws ivwc nhIN afAuNdf (iksy Auqy rIJdf nhIN).
hy aphuMc qy agocr pRBU ! hryk jIv qyry aDIn hY (iehnF ivKfvy dy AuWdmF nfl koeI
jIv qyrI pRsMnqf pRfpq nhIN kr skdf).
qUµ isrÌ AuhnF Auqy rIJdf hYN jo sdf qyrf ismrn krdy hn, (ikAuNik) qyrf
Bjn-ismrn krn vfilaF ƒ (isrÌ) qyrf afsrf-prnf huMdf hY. 10[
gurU pMQ df dfs,
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.
(12/12/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
gurcrn isMG jI! jrnYl isMG jI! aqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Ìqih.
gurcrn isMG jI!
qusIN myry svflF df jvfb qF idwqf nhIN aqy myry qy svflF df
islslf Pyr ÈurU kr idwqf hY. pihlF qF myry svflF df jvfb dyx ivwc agY, afgY ÈbdF
dI rukfvt sI pr hux qF Auh rukfvt vI nhIN. quhfzy kihx muqfbk gurbfxI ivwc afey
Èbd afgY aqy agY dy jy arQ ‘iesy jnm ivwc afAux vfly smyN’ leI kIqy jfx qF myry
10-12 svflF dy jvfb afpy hI af jfxgy. pr hjy qwk iksy iewk vI svfl df jvfb nhIN
afieaf. gurcrn isMG jI! jdoN koeI quhfzy iksy svfl/svflF df jvfb nhIN idMdf qF
qusIN ijhVI BfÈf df pRXog krdy ho Aus qrHF dI BfÈf mYNnUM nhIN afAuNdI pr myry
svflF dy jvfb df mYnUM hjy vI ieMqËfr hY. ijMnf icr qusIN myry svflF dy jvfb
nhIN idMdy Enf icr mYN iehI smJx leI mjbUr hF ik qusIN gurbfxI dy afpxy hI GVy
hoey arQ krky gurmq dy Ault afpxI hI imQI hoeI PlOsPI iswKF nUM pVHf ky gumrfh
kr rhy ho aqy dUijaF qy bRhmxvfd PYlfAux df JUTf ielËfm lgfAuNdy ho. ijMnf icr
myry sfry svflF dy jvfb nhIN af jFdy, mYN quhfzy iksy svfl df jvfb nf dyx leI
muafÌI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.
jrnYl isMG jI!
mYN jo gurmq isDFq pyÈ kIqf hY Aus dy sMbMD ivwc qusIN 13
nukqy rwKy hn ijnHF bfry qusIN myry koloN spwÈtIkrx mMgI hY. pyÈ hn quhfzy AunHF
nukiqaF bfry myry ivcfr:
- jI hF gurmq aqy ihMdU mwq dy krm/ afvfgAux isDFq ivwc Ìrk hY aqy dUsrI
gwl gurmq avqfr Dfrx nUM nhIN mMndI.
- jI hF gurmq Drmrfj aqy 84 lwK jUnF dI igxqI nUM nhIN
mMndI.
- jI hF gurmq anusfr krm isDFq aDUrf hY. gurmq krm-hukm isDFq dI hfmI hY.
- jI nhIN bMdy dy mrn qy Aus dy kIqy krmF df ihsfb nhIN huMdf. kIqy
krmF dy sMskfr jIv dy aMqhkrx qy nfl dI nfl aMikq huMdy rihMdy hn. aqy hF
kIqy krmF anusfr pRBU df jo hukm huMdf hY Ausy qrHF huMdf hY.
- jI hF krmF krky jIv sMsfr qy nhIN afieaf pr krmF dy aDfr qy pRBU dy hukm
ivwc jIv nUM afvfgAuyx df gyVf ipaf rihMdf hY jF (gurmuK bMdf) afvfgAux qoN
mukq ho jFdf hY.
- ijhVf qusIN iliKaf hY "
God can
terminate this cycle of life on the earth at any time at his sweet will
and restart it again whenever he likes it by his Hukam"[
prmfqmf sB kuwJ krn dy smrwQ hY pr ies DrqI qy jIvn Éqm krky Ìyr ÈurU kr
idMdf hY, aYsf gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc ikqy iliKaf hovy mYnUM nhIN pqf aqy nf
hI mYN ikqy ies qrHF iliKaf hY. (not: jy quhfnUM lwgdf hY ik pihlF mYN
hor kuwJ iliKaf hY aqy hux mukr irhf hF qF mYN jo pihlF iliKaf hY imhrbfnI
krky Auh pMgqIaF hvfly vjoN ilK ky ByjxIaF aqy dwsxf ik ikMnIN qrIk dy pwqr
ivwc mYN iliKaf hY ik prmfqmf DrqI qy jIvn Kqm krky Pyr ÈurU kr idMdf hY).
jI hF gurmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky bMdy nUM Pyr jnm mrn df gyVf nhIN pYNdf
Auh pRBU ivwc smf jFdf hY.
jI hF mnmuKF vflf jIvn ibqf ky mrn ipwCoN bMdf jnm mrn dy gyV ivwc pY
jFdf hY.
jI hF bMdy dy kIqy cMgy mfVy krmF krky pRBU dy hukm ivwc jIv anykF jUnF
ivwc Btkdf hY pr gurmuK bMdy df jnm mrn df gyVf muk jFdf hY, Aus nUM Pyr
afvfgAux ivwc nhIN pYxf pYNdf.
jI hF mnmuwK bMdf mrn ipwCoN mnuwK jF hor jIvF dI jUn ivwc pY jFdf hY
pr ikMnf icr jF ikMnIaF jUnF ivwc pey gf ies df koeI Kfs lyKf joKf jF smF
nhIN hY. jdoN pRBU nUM BfAuNdf hY Aus nUM mnuwKf jnm iml jFdf hY.
jI hF jy bMdf pRBU awgy jnm mrn df gyVf Éqm krn dI ardfs krdf hY aqy
pRBU ardfs mnjUr krdf hY qF Aus df jnm mrn df gyVf Éqm ho jFdf hY ieh
gurbfxI ivwc ivÈvfÈ rKx vfly ivakqI df ivÈvfÈ hY ies gwl df koeI sbUq nhIN.
pr gurbfxI iehI kihMdI hY.
quhfzf svfl hY ik jy ardfs mnËUr ho jfvy qF jIv dI afqmf pRBU ivwc smf
jFdI hY, jIv cfhy iensfn dI bjfey
iksy jor jUnIN ivwc
hI hovy?
jI hF
ho jFdI hY.
pr iensfn qoN ibnf iksy hor kuwqy ibwlI nUM ardfs kridaF ik "hy pRBU sfnUM GtIaf
jUnF dy afvfgAux dy cwkr qoN mukqI dy ky afpxy crnF ivwc invfs bKÈ jF Gwto Gwt
iensfn bxf dyh" aYsf AunHF nUM ardfs kridaF mYN qF ikqy nhIN dyiKaf Èfied qusIN
dyiKaf hovy qF hI qusIN ies qrHF df svfl kIqf hY. jrnYl isMG jI! dUijaF nUM
byvkUP smJxf/ bnfAuxf Èfied quhfzf Èugl hovy gf. jy ieh quhfzf Èugl hY qF koeI
gwl nhIN. Èfied quhfnUM iesy ivwc KuÈI imldI hovygI. quhfzI KuÈI ivwc mYN ikAuN
rukfvt bxf. pr jy qusIN swc hI iksy kuwqy ibwlI nUM ardfs kridaF dyiKaf hY qF
mYnUM quhfzI mdd dI jrUrq pY skdI hY. afpF donoN rl ky ies ivÈy qy zUMGI Koj
krFgy. myrI jfxkfrI muqfbk hor jUnF qF Cwzo bhuq sfry gurmuK aKvfAux vfly
bMidaF nUM vI ardfs ivwc XkIn nhIN hY qusIN iensfn qoN ibnf iksy hor jUn dI
gwl kr rhy ho.
13- jI hF anykF jUnF ivwc Btkx qoN ipwCoN jdoN pRBU cfhuMdf
hY qF jIv nUM mnuwKf jnm imldf hY.
qusIN iliKaf hY ik mYN gurbfxI hvfly nf idaF. pihlF mYN afpxy
ivcfr idaF Pyr dyiKaf jfvygf ik myry ivcfr gurbfxI anusfr hn jF nhIN.
jrnYl isMG jI! myry ivcfr gurbfxI qoN vwKry nhIN. mYnUM
gurbfxI pVH ky jo smJ afeI hY AuhI mYN ibafn krdf hF. ieh gwl vwKrI hY ik ho
skdf hY gurbfxI jo kih rhI hY mYN Aus nUM TIk arQF ivwc nF smJ irhf hovF. afiKr
qF mYN vI iensfn hF, myry koloN vI ÊlqIaF hoxIaF kudrqI gwl hY. gurbfxI hvfly
dyx nfl afpF nUM pqf lwg skdf hY ik gurbfxI arQF nUM smJx ivwc kOx ikwQy Êlq hY.
ies leI myry vwloN pyÈ gurbfxI hvfilaF bfry quhfzy ivcfr afAuxy jrUrI hn aqy
quhfzy ivcfrF dy nfl vI gurbfxI hvfly afAuxy jrUrI hn. nhIN qF ivcfr awgy nhIN
qorI jf skygI. quhfzy ipCly svflF dy jvfb ivwc myry vwloN pyÈ gurbfxI hvfilaF
bfry quhfzf ieh dwsxf jrUrI hY ik mYN gurbfxI nUM iks qrHF Êlq arQF ivwc smJ
irhf hF aqy aslI arQ kI hn. nhIN qF ivcfr awgy nhIN qorI jfvygI.
jrnYl isMG jI! iewQoN qk sI quhfzy pwqr df jvfb. myry vI
kuJku svflF bfry afpxy jvfb Byjxy jI. (ienHF ivwcoN kuJku svflF dy jvfb qusIN
pihlF dy cuwky ho pr mYN AunHF bfry dws cuwkf hF ik iksqrHF Auh myry svflF dy
muqfbk nhIN hn).
1- kI bMdy dy krmF df koeI lyKf joKf huMdf hY ik nhIN? jy
nhIN qF gurbfxI ivwc anykF vfrIN "lyKf" Èbd afieaf hY Auh iks lyKy dI gwl kIqI
geI hY?
2- jy bMdy dy kIqy krmF df koeI ihsfb ikqfb nhIN huMdf qF
prmfqmf nyN kIVy, pqMgy, sUr, kuwqy afid GtIaf jUnF ikAuN pYdf kIqIaF jo sfrI
Aumr duwK BogdIaF hn?
3- quhfzy muqfbk ardfs dI koeI mhwqqf hY jF nhIN?
4- kI gurbfxI ivwcoN koeI vI Audfhrx pyÈ kIqI jf skdI hY ijs
ivwc sfP iliKaf hovy ik koeI gurmuK hovy jF mnmuK
mrn ipwCoN
iksy df Pyr jnm nhIN huMdf?
5- koeI ivakqI sfrI Aumr pfp dI (ÊrIb-mfr krky) kmfeI krky
dOlq iewkTI krky aYÈ dI ijMdÊI bsr krky dunIaF qoN
clf jFdf hY
Aus leI gurbfxI df kI Purmfn hY? ijs qrHF ik
gurbfxI Purmfn hY: afpInHy Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAuru isDfieaf] vzf hoaf
dunIdfru gil sMglu Giq clfieaf] agY krxI kIriq vfcIaY bih lyKf kir smJfieaf]
6- keI jIv (iensfn
jF hor jIv jMq
afid) aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn
ik sfrI Aumr duwK Bogdy hn aqy koeI aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik zwkf dUhrf nhIN krdy
pr sfrI Aumr suK dI ijMdgI bsr krdy hn. aYsf ikAuN hY? (iksy ÊrIb dy Gr ijwQy ik
rwj ky Kfx leI rotI vI nsIb nhIN huMdI, aYsy Gr ivwc jnm lYx ivwc bwcy df kI
ksUr hY. iksy amIr dy Gr ijwQy sfrI Aumr kMm krn dI jrUrq nhIN hr iksm dIaF suK
shUlqF muheIaf hn, aYsy Gr ivwc jnm lYx ivwc bwcy df kI Xogdfn hY. jF Pyr
prmfqmf ny aYsf Discrimination
vflf hukm ikAuN kIqf?
mYN afpxI smJ muqfbk quhzy sfry 13 svflF dy jvfb dy idwqy hn.
myry CyaF svflF dy jvfb dyx dI ikrpflqf krnI jI. afvfgAux sMbMDI cwl rhI ivcfr
crcf ivwc hor vI bhuq sfry svfl sfhmxy afAuNdy rhy hn ijnHF bfry Pyr gwl kIqI
jfvygI. Buwl cuwk leI muafÌI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
(403) 248 2169
(12/12/08)
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI
Respected Sardar Makhan Singh ji,
Gur Fateh
Veer ji, I have a problem. I want to share some gurmat
articles from www.sikhmarg.com with my friends, but when I do cut-paste for
printing that article in MS word, the font changed and becomes un-readable,
perhaps due to uni-code script.
If there is any other alternate for sharing and printing of
these articles. Please reply urgently.
Er.Gurmit Singh Qadiani (Rozana Spokesman) Kapurthala
sMpfdk vloN jvfbI not:-
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI jI, ieh smwisaf hor vI keIaF nUM afAuNdI
hY. keI ies bfry eI-myl rfhIN puwCdy hn aqy keI PUn krky puwCdy hn. ies leI asIN
sB dI sFJI jfxkfrI leI iewQy ilK rhy hF.
1[ kfpI pyst krn dI ibjfey qusIN koeI vI ilKq iswDI hI vYWb
brfAusr qoN pirMt kr skdy ho. ies bfry koeI vI smwisaf nhIN hoxI cfhIdI. jy kr
qusIN iksy vI kMipAUtr qy ‘iswK mfrg’ nUM pVH skdy ho qF pirMt vI kr skdy ho.
2[ jnvrI 2007 qoN lY ky hux qwk dy sfry lyK XUnIkoz ivc hn.
jy kr iehnf ivcoN koeI lyK mfeIkrosoPt vrz qy kfpI pyst krnf hY qF quhfzy
kMipAUtr qy ivMzo aYks pI jF ivstf hoxI cfhIdI hY aqy nfl hI kMntrol pYnl qoN
gurmuKI progrfm pfieaf hovy.
3[ jnvrI 2007 qoN pihlF vfly sfry lyK aqy pfTkf dy pMinaF
vflI ilKq, ‘cfqirk’ ivc hY. cfqirk aqy zI afr cfqirk ieko PONts dy do vwKry nfm
hn. ies leI iehnf ilKqF nUM kfpI pyst krn leI iehnf dohF PONts ivcoN iksy dI vI
vrqoN kr skdy ho.
(11/12/08)
jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf
S Sital Singh Ji
I agree with you that I should respond to S Jasbir Singh in Punjabi. Punjabi is
my mother tongue and I would love to write in Punjabi, but unfortunately I am
handicapped here in the sense that I am not good (in fact I do not know it at
all) in Punjabi type and I am always short of time. I have a growing family and
my hands are always full. All my responses to S Jasbir Singh have been typed
during my lunch hours in office.
Regarding your question, it will be better, if you can hold on to it for the
time being. I will come back to it later. Trust me, I won’t forget it.
Thanks for your interest in this discussion.
Regards
Jarnail Singh
Sydney Australia
(10/12/08)
Koty Kry dI pCfx sMbMDI iek KLbr
ijhnF sQfnF
`qy pMQk iswK rihq mirafdf df Gfx huMdf hY AuhnF gurU asQfnF nUM pMQk asQfn nhIN
ikhf jf skdf
ijs qrHF
bwcf afpxI mF dI pCfx kr lYNdf hY Ausy qrHF iswK nUM afpxy gurU dI pihcfx krnI
cfhIdI hY: pRoPYsr drÈn isMG
bIqI rfq PrIdfbfd dy gurduafrf
sRI gurU isMG sBf nM[ -ñ ivwc pRoPYsr drÈn isMG sfbkf muwK syvfdfr sRI akfl qÉq
sfihb ny kIrqn kridaF ikhf ik hYrfnI dI gwl hY ik iewk inwkf bfl ijs nUM afpxy
afly-duafly dI bhuqI sUJ nhIN huMdI pr jykr Aus nUM koeI hor cuwkdf hY qy Auh
rox lg pYNdf hY pr jd Aus dI afpxI mF Aus nUM inwG ivwc lYNdI hY qF AuQy jFdy hI
Auh afpxy afp nUM suriKaq mihsUs krdy hoey roxf bMd kr idMdf hY. ieh dunIafvI
imsfl pyÈ kridaF pRoPYsr drÈn isMG jI ny ikhf ik aPsos awj df iswK ibbyk buD df
mflk huMidaF vI afpxy gurU dy Èbd nUM nhIN pCfx sikaf aqy ies nUM gumrfh kr ky
iksy hor gRMQ df iswK bxfieaf jf irhf hY. AuhnF ieiqhfs ivcoN qwQ pyÈ krdy hoey
ikhf ik bflk hirgoibMd sfihb jI nUM bfl avsQf ivwc mukfAux leI ipRQIey cMd vwloN
pUqnf dfeI nUM afpxy QxF `qy Ëihr lf ky duwD pugfAux leI Byijaf igaf pr bfl gurU
hirgoibMd nUM ieqnI smJ sI qy AunHF ny Ëihr Bry duwD nUM nhIN puigaf. AunHF ikhf
ik byÈk asIN gurU hirgoibMd nhIN bx skdy pr asIN gurU hirgoibMd dy iswK hox df
sbUq qF dy skdy hF. ies leI gurU dy iswK dI gurU dy Èbd pRqI ieMnI prpkwqf hoxI
cfhIdI hY ik Auh Koty Kry dI pCfx kr sky.
AunHF ikhf ik ijs vI sQfn `qy
gurmiq dI AulMGxf huMdI hY Aus nfl iswK df koeI sMbMD nhIN BfvyN Auh qÉq hI
ikAuN nf hox. AunHF ikhf ik jd drbfr sfihb ivwc mwsf rMGV afpxf kbËf jmfeI bYTf
sI aqy AuQy vyÈvf df nfc huMdf sI qF AudoN qwk iksy iswK ny Aus sQfn Auqy jf ky
mwQf nf tyikaf ijs krky suKf isMG qy mihqfb isMG vrgy gurU dy axKI iswK pYdf
hoey aqy mwsy rMGV df isr vwZ ky gurUDfmF dI ho rhI byadbI nUM roikaf. ies mOky
`qy Drm pRcfr kmytI (id[ is[ gu[ pR[ kmytI) dy cyarmYn s[ qrsym isMG jI ny sMgqF
qoN hwQ KVy krvf ky mqf pfs krvfieaf ik gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAucqf Auqy ho
rhy hmilaF df ZuwkvF jvfb idwqf jfvygf. ijs dI hfËr sMgqF vwloN jYkfry dI guMj
ivwc hwQ KVy kr ky pRvfngI idwqI geI. PrIdfbfd dIaF keI jwQybMdIaF vwloN pRoPYsr
drÈn isMG Kflsf aqy s[ qrsym isMG jI nUM snmfnq kIqf igaf. sMgqF dy BfrI iekwT
ny ijs qrHF iewk mn iewk icwq ho ky pRoPYsr drÈn isMG nUM suixaf aqy AunHF dy
ivcfrF nfl sihmqI pRgt kIqI Aus qoN pRBfvq ho ky jwQydfr inrml isMG, BfeI
BuipMdr isMG, (guriswK PYimlI klwb) BfeI guirMdr isMG (XMg iswK aYsoiseyÈn
PrIdfbfd) afid ny dwsdy hoey ikhf ik sMgq hux Koty Kry dI pCfx krx dy smrwQ ho
cuwkI hY qy isrP vwzy ahuwidaF nfl hI nhIN juVI. AunHF ikhf ik ipCly aYqvfr (óú
nvMbr òúúø) nUM hI iesy Èihr ivwc sRI akfl qÉwq sfihb dy muwK syvfdfr igafnI
gurbcn isMG iewk smfgm ivwc hfjrI Brx õúú iklomItr df lMbf sPr qYa kr ky afey pr
AunHF nUM suxn leI õú qoN vwD sMgq iekwqr nhIN ho skI pr awj sfbkf muwK syvfdfr
pRo[ drÈn isMG afey hn qF AunHF nUM suxn leI òúúú qoN vwD sMgq hfËr sI
(10/12/08)
amnjIq isMG igwl
s[
qrlocn isMG iPijLks
vfihgurU jI kf
Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
afp jI ny srvjIq
isMG duafrf iswKI 'c zyrydfrF duafrf pfeI geI duibDf nUM dUr krn leI AuTfey gey
nukqy nfl byloVI hI iKWc-DUh kIqI hY aslI muwdy qoN htky. ho skdf Auhnf ny
mUlmSqR sLbd iswKF 'c pRcilq hox krky hI iliKaf hovy, bfkI shI gwl qF Auh afp hI
dws skdy hn. jo zyrydfr sfD pUrI gurbfxI nUM hI mMqR bxfeI jf rhy hn kI qusIN
Auhnf nfl kdy ies bfry ivcfr crcf kIqI hY?, clo iewQy mMglfcrx sLbd dI vrqoN
krdy hF. hux qusIN dwso ik mSglfcrx dy ies srUp bfry quhfzy kI ivcfr hn ?
ÃÄ siq nfm krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl mUirq ajUnI sYBM
gur pRsfid] jykr qusIN koeI vwKrI rfey nhIN rwKdy
qF iPr bihs qF hor iksy gwl dI hY hI nhIN. jykr mSglfcrx sLbd vI glq hY qF ikRpf
krky shI sLbd kI vriqaf jfvy dws dyxf.
amnjIq isMG igwl
(10/12/08)
srvjIq isMG
po: qrlocn isMG jI
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh।
afp jI dI jfxkfrI leI bynqI hY ky ies mMc Aupr
iewk pfTk ny mUl mMqr ies qrF iliKaf sI.
ÃÄ siq nfmu krqf purKu inrBAu
inrvYru
akfl mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur
pRsfid]
] jpu]
afid scu jugfid scu]
hY BI scu nfnk hosI BI scu] 1]
mY Aus nUM pwqr iliKaf sI pr Aus ny myry pwqr
vwl koeI iDafn nhI idwqf. AupRMq mY iewk pwqr ivwc iliKaf ik mUl mMqr hyT ilKy
muqfbk hY.
ÃÄ siq nfmu krqf purKu inrBAu
inrvYru
akfl mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur
pRsfid]
nfl hI mY ieh bynqI vI kIqI sI,
“jy kr koeI swjx ies qoN vwKrI rfey rwKdf hovy qF mY Aus nUM jI afieaF afKdf hF
aqy dlIl nfl ivcfr crcf krn df swdf idMdf hF.”
po: qrlocn isMG jI, afp jI ny
afpxy pwqrF rfhI myry nfl sihmqI pRgt kIqI hY. iesy leI mY afp jI df DMnvfd krn
AupRMq ieh iliKaf sI ik myrf svfl eynf hI sI. Bfv mUl mMqr ‘gur pRsfid’ qwk hI
hY.
afp jI dy svflF sbMDI bynqI hY
ik mUl, mMqr, jF mUl+mMqr =? . ieh myrf ivÈf nhI hY. hF jy
afp jI nvF ivÈf arMB krnf cfhoN qF kr skdy ho. nF qF mY igafnI idwq isMG
jI vrgf hF aqy nf hI qusI dXf nMd, pr ijs sPfeI nfl qusI gwl nUM bdlI krn df Xqn
krdy ho ieh ‘dXf nMdI soc’ jrUr hY jo afp qy BfrU hY.
DMnvfd
srvjIq isMG
(10/12/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf
Dear Moderator S. Makhan Singh jee,
[
www.sikhmarg.com]
Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh
During the Sikh Scripture Class here in Australia, I have
tried to explain the "Commencing Verse" as follows:
Ekk Oankaar - There is only One God, the Supreme True Entity;
Satt Naam - God is the Truth, the True Naam
Kartaa Purkh - God is the Creator of entire Universe;
Nirbhau - God is without any fear;
Nirvair - God is without enmity;
Akaal Mooret- God is Immortal, Infinite, Invisible;
Ajoonee - God is beyond birth & death, but everlasting;
Saibhang - God is self-Illuminator;
Gur Parsaad - God is the Divine Enlightenment & Bounteous.
Then starts Japp Baani.
I shall be grateful for any appropriate correction for the benefit of students
when next School Term starts in the last week of January 2009.
(10/12/08)
mnjIq isMG
I have read Mr. Narinderpal Singh’s article on
Rehraas Bani and subsequent discussion by Mr. Gurmit Singh Australia with great
interest and thankful to them for the information given by them.
I have a doubt regarding word “Guru Panth”
used by both authors. Did the tenth Master ever give Guruship or Guryai to any
other person/institution except Guru Granth Sahib? Will any scholar throw light
on this subject?
In this reference, I would recall an article
written by Mr. Sarabjit Singh,
ਕੀ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਦੇ ਪੰਦਰਾਂ ਗੁਰੂ
ਹਨ?---
ਸਰਬਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ. This article is available on Sikh
Marg.
Regarding Guru Granth versus “Guru Panth”, my
views are as under. I shall request learned readers to correct me where I am
wrong:
1. Gurbani (Guru Granth) is the eternal guru as stated by First
master and repeated several times by other masters.
2. As the Gurbani was revealed through our living Gurus in body
and soul, they (all the ten masters) were Guru of their times. As long as they
were physically there to guide us, they were also the final interpreter of
Gurbani.
3. Guru Nanak started the spiritual movement as
ਧੌਲੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਦਇਆ ਕਾ ਪੂਤੁ
and
ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ.
This movement had evolved and developed into a full fledged religion like Islam
and Christianity by the time of Tenth Master. Like any living religion on the
planet, this religion had also its own political, social and territorial
ambitions.
4. Tenth Master during his life was spiritual leader (Guru) as
well as political and social leader of Sikh community, which had developed as a
full fledged religion during his life time.
5. Before passing away from this mortal world, tenth master
stopped the practice of appointing a living successor. He bowed to Guru Granth
and ordained his followers to seek spiritual guidance from “Shabad” or Gurbani
only.
6. He also advised his followers to have guidance from “Guru (?)
Panth” in the political, social and ritualistic matters.
7. Please remember that like any living religion, Sikh religion
had also developed its own rituals.
8. Tenth master very clearly defined the role of Guru Granth that
whosoever wants to be one with God, have to search his path from “Shabad” or
Gurbani. For all other worldly affairs, he delegated his role to “Guru (?)
Panth” in the form of Panj Pyaras, which latter on took the shape of Sarbat
Khalsa, Head Priests of Takhts, Group of Sikh Scholars, SGPC general house etc.
etc. according to needs of the time or maneuvering by the political leaders
9. It is us who are a confused lot. We started seeking guidance
on “Naam” and spirituality from Sadhs, Sants, Priests, Panj Pyaras and some
times even from politicians or their appointees. Reason for our confusion is
partly due to lack of our knowledge of Gurbani, comfort of following a short-cut
route as well as selfishness of political leaders, priests and sadhs, who are
spreading disinformation for their selfish ends. We are seeking “Naam” from the
persons who themselves are beggars before our common Guru, i.e. Guru Granth
Sahib.
10. “Naam” can be got from Guru only as stated very clearly in
our Holy Scripture (Guru Granth). No else in this universe (not even Panj
Pyaras) is authorized to give “Naam”. Yes, Panj Pyaras can initiate us into
Khalsa Panth with Pahul ceremony. They can also guide us regarding other
ceremonies related to marriage, birth and death etc. They can also guide us
regarding “Kakaars” and dress codes etc.
11. “Nitnem” is an essential part of “Naam Simran” a purely
spiritual function and thus comes under the domain of Guru Granth Sahib only.
Nitnem for a Sikh, who wants to be one with God, is not a religious ritual but a
direct dialogue with Almighty, his real pursuit for that path, thus “Guru (?)
Panth” has nothing to do with it. Even interpretation of Gurbani does not come
under the purview of Panj Pyaras or High Priests. Final interpretation has to be
sought by a person himself who is seeking the path of oneness with God. He may
take help from Scholars, but he has to read and re-read Scripture to get the
answer to his doubts from Shabad Guru.
12. Political, social and ritualistic needs of a person change
with time, place and other factors, hence the role of “Guru (?) Panth” changes
accordingly. But the role of Guru never changes. Guru will always enlighten us
with Gyan or knowledge for our pursuit on the path to be one with God, which is
the ultimate aim of any human being as per Gurbani.
13. Guru’s orders cannot be changed by “Guru (?) Panth”. May be
regarding “Nitnem” or any other matter.
Can any body
quoting history tell that Nitnem Banis were changed by any subsequent Guru,
after these were recorded in Guru Granth Sahib?
(10/12/08)
sIql isMG jOhl
Jarnail Singh Ji,
I think it would be much better if you write in punjabi. That
way lot of people who are not fluent in english they will benifit from this
discussion.
I also have couple of questions for you too as follows:
1. you wrote"Hukami hovan Akaar Hukam na kahiya jayei The
word "hovan" is important as it makes this statement applicable in past, present
and future. There is no mention of Karma here." If you read little further in
the shabad" Ik Hukmi Sadaa Bhavaaeeaih" how would you explain "Bhavaaeeaih". You
think it refers to transmigration? Please explain.
2. Sikh scholars always criticize hindu vedas by saying that
they are not written for a lay person and only an adept person can understand
the full meaning of those scriptures. Here on sikmarg, the discussion has been
going on for last few months on the subject of reincarantion and it has not
gotten anywhere. Why is that? Do you think perhaps nobody (including our Gurus)
knows what happens after death? Otherwise, why would Gurus mention reincarnation
so many times when they don't mean it. I know sometimes confusion can come from
the circumstances (ie. when Gurus conversed with the people they taught
according to the generally held beliefs of the community) but that is not the
case always.
Sincerely,
Sital Johal.
LLOYDMINSTER, ALBERTA.
(09/12/08)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
9888169226
iswK mfrg dy pfTk sjxo
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
srvjIq isMG jIE
vIrf myiraf hr iensfn df iewk
suBfa hY, iewk Frequency
hY, iewk PIlz hY. jIvyN hwQ dIaF ryKfvF awz awz
hn, mwQy dIaF lfeInF awz awz hn iblkul ievyN hI hr bMdy dI PrIkAuNsI (jF sur) vI
awz awz hn. ijnHF lokF nfl sfzI PrIkAuNsI jF sur rwldI hY Auh sfnUM cMgy lgxy
ÈurU ho jFdy hn. Auh ijho ijhy mrjI hox Auh sfnUM cMgy hI lgxgy.
hr nUMh leI
Ausdy pyky ijafdf cMgy huMdy hn Ausdy shury pirvfr nfloN (BfvyN shurf pirvfr
ikMnf hI cMgf ikAuN nf hovy). ieh
hoxf iewk suBfivk hY. ijnHF nfl sfzI sur nhIN rwldI Auh BfvyN ikMny hI cMgy hox
Auh sfnUM hmyÈf BYVy hI nËr afAuxgy. AunHF vloN sfnUM hmyÈf ieh BY jF zr bixaf
rhygf ik Auh sfnUM nIvF ivKfAux dI qfk ivwc bYTy hn.
iesy leI srvjIq qusIN myry vloN puCy gey aihm
svfl nUM ZucrF hI ds rhy ho. jdoN
qusIN mUlmMqr dI ivafiKaf leI swdf idqf aqy qusF iliKaf ik qusIN Aus nUM jI
afieaF khogy jo quhfzy qoN mUlmMqr sbMDI ivcfr crcf krnf cfhygf. qusI iliKaf sI
ik qusIN keI ivdvfnF nfl ies sbMD ivwc ivcfr crcf kIqI hY qF myrf idl vI kIqf ik
mYN vI ies df lfhf lvF. ikAuNik iensfn sfrI ijMdgI kuwJ n kuwJ isKdf hY. Auh
iewk isiKafrQI hY. byÈk hux vylf Auho nhIN jdoN ik sfzy idloN-idmfg ivwc koeI
qbdIlI af skdI hovy, ikAuNik ies AumryN ivcfr pwk cuky hn prMqU dlIl nfl jF qrk
nfl keI glF jF ivcfr bfr-bfr sfnUM kuwJ smJx jF isKx leI jrUr sfzy ijhn ivwc jor
pfAuNdIaF rihMdIaF hn. kihMdy huMdy aY ky jy pwQr qy pfxI dI Dfr lgfqfr izgdI
rhy qF Auh pwQr qy afpxI hoNd df aihsfs aMikq kr jFdI hY.
srvjIq isMG qusIN Kul idlIN
mUlmMqr dy sbMD ivwc myrf inAuqf kbUl kro. hux qfeIN qF qusI idq isMG jI sI qy
mYN idafnMd (quhfzy muqfibk). mYnUM zr hY ik quhfzy vloN myry svflF dy Auqr nf
dyx kfrx ikqy iswK mfrg dy pfTk ies qoN Ault hI nf soc bYTx. myrI aijhI mnÈf
nhIN hY ik qusIN idafnMd bxo. mYN afpxy vIr nUM idq isMG jI vFgUM hI ivcfr-crcf
dI crm sImf qy vyKxf cfhuMdf hF, ies leI myry vIr ivcfr crcf nUM kbUl PurmfE aqy
agy vwDo. Kflsf kdy vI ipCy
nhIN hwtdf cfhy Auh XuwD df mYdfn hoey jF iswK mfrg qy ivcfr crcf dy sbMD ivwc
clx vflI klm.
qrlocn isMG
(09/12/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn
sR[ jsbIr
Aus dy hukm ivc ijs qrHF jIv dy lyK ilKy hn bMdf Ausy qrHF ivcrdf hY.
“nfnk hukmI ilKIaY lyK”
aqy Aus df hukm bMdy dy kIqy krmF anusfr cldf hY.
AuprlIaF iqno sqrF sR[ jsbIr isMG jI quhfzIaF hn qy jrf ghu nfl ivcfro qF pqf
cwldf hY ik ieh afpf ivroDI hn. iek sqr ivc qusIN ieh ilKdy ho ik pRmfqmf bMdy
dy lyK ilKdf hY qy bMdf Ausy qrHF ivcrdf hY. qIsrI sqr ivc ilKdy ho ik prmfqmf
df hukm bMdy dy kIqy krmF anusfr cwldf hY. TIk kIh hY?
gurU pMQ df dfs,
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.
(09/12/08)
jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf
S Jasbir Singh Ji
Looks like, we are not on the same page. I have been trying to draw your
attention to the contradictions and conflicts in the theory of reincarnation or
transmigration presented by you. So far you have refused to look at those
contradictions. In order to further this discussion, I have outlined below the
main points of your theory as I understand it from your letters and articles.
Could you please advise if this is what you are saying and in case you disagree,
correct it, so that we can discuss it further?
This will provide us a basis for discussion and ensure that we are on the same
page.
1. Theory of Karma/transmigration of souls/incarnation in Sikhism is different
from the one in Hinduism
2. This theory does not recognise the existence of Dharmaraj, 84 lac species and
other rituals associated with it in Hinduism.
3. As per Sikhism theory of Karma is incomplete and it has to be combined with
the concept of Hukam to complete it and make it meaningful.
4. Whatever deeds or Karma a person does is evaluated to decide his/her fate at
the time of his death. This evaluation happens as per Hukam.
5. However this evaluation started at the time of second generation of species
as there were no karmas when life started for the first time on this earth.
6. God can terminate this cycle of life on this earth at any time at his sweet
will and restart it again whenever he likes it by his Hukam.
7. If a person has done well in his/her life he/she merges with God after
his/her death.
8. In case a person has not done well in this life, his or her soul is penalized
by going into the circle of life and death again.
9. This soul will be reborn either as a human being or as some other species
depending upon the evaluation of its deeds.
10. If not born as a human being, the soul keeps on migrating from one specie to
another specie till the time it earns a chance to be born as a human being again
11. In case a person prays to God and if this prayer is accepted, all his bad
deeds are written off or pardoned and he/she need not go into the cycle of birth
and death again or this soul is blessed with another chance to be born as human
being again.
12. If the prayer is accepted, God can allow this soul to be merged with it even
when it is living as a specie other than human being.
13. While going through the ordeal of birth and death as different species, God
takes mercy on this soul, and it is again given a chance to be born as a human
being.
Jasbir Sing Ji, this is what I understand from your letters and essays. I could
be wrong. If so correct it in your reply. If this is what you mean, then I will
respond to further this discussion. Another thing, please do not take it in the
wrong sense. Though it is nice to read Gurbani, but it will be better if you do
not quote lines from GGS when you outline the concept of transmigration of souls
as you see it in Gurbani. I would like to know what you say first, only then we
will be able to see if Gurbani supports this or not. The point of discussion
here is your (or mine) interpretation of Gurbani and how well it fits in the
overall logical structure of the philosophical thought so adroitly built in GGS.
Regards
Jarnail Singh
Sydney Australia
(09/12/08)
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI
mwkV vloN
lVIvfr srUpF df pRkfÈ krn df afdyÈ:
ieiqhfsk gurduafrf sihbfnF dy mYnyjrF nUM sMboDn kridaF pRDfn mwkV sfihb ny awj
iewk nvF ivvfd CyVidaF sfry ieiqhfsk gurduafiraF ivwc pRcwilq ÈRI gurU gRMQ
sfihb jI dy srUpF dI QF lVIvfr srUpF df pRkfÈ krn df afdyÈ jfrI kIqf hY. jdik
ies smyN iswK jgq ivwc pd-Cyd srUp afm pRcwlq hn, ikAuNik lVIvfrF srUpF ivwc
juVvyN awKr hox krky pfT ÈuD krnf sMBv nhIN huMdf. iswK pMQ ny iesy muÈkl nUM
iDafn ivwc rwKidaF pwd-Cyd bIVF bfry PYslf ilaf sI. hux jykr kuwJ mnmwqI zyiraF
dy pRBfv hyT PYslf lY ky ieiqhfsk gurduafiraF ivwc pd-Cyd srUpF dI jgf lVIvfr
srUpF df pRkfÈ kIqf jFdf hY qF ies kfj leI gRMQI isMG vI Ausy zyirEN mMgfAuxy
pYxgy, ijhVy zyry pd-Cyd srUpF nUM awj vI siqkfr dI njr nfl nhIN vyKdy aqy keI
qrHF dI itwcrbfjI krn qwk cly jFdy hn. pRDfn mwkV sfihb dy ies PYsly bfry
pRqIkrm jfnx leI ÈRomxI kmytI dy keI pRcfrkF aqy gurduafrf sihbfnF dy
hYWz-gRMQIaF nfl sMprk kIqf igaf qF qkrIbn sfiraF df ieho ivcfr sI ik mksd qF
Èbd gurU qoN ÈuD pfT krky igafn dI soJI pRfpq krnf hY. ies leI pd-Cyd jF lVIvfr
srUp df ivvfd KVf krnf iblkuwl PjUl hY. jykr lVIvfr srUp dI bjfey pd-Cyd srUpF
ivcoN gurbfxI df ÈuD pfT sihjy hI kIqf jf skdf hY qF iPr lVIvfr srUpF bfry nvF
ivvfd ikAuN? AuhnF afpxf nfm nf Cfpx dI Èrq qy pRDfn sfihb nUM slfh idwqI ik
jykr Auh iswKI dy pRcfr leI suihrd hn qF ieho ijhy byquwky nvyN ivvfd KVy krn dI
QF iswK pMQ sfhmxy pihlF qoN hI drpyÈ ivvfdF df sdIvIN hwl kwZx leI pihl krn.
kuwJ pRcfrkF ny ieh vI doÈ lfieaf ik iewk Kfsm Kfs zyry dy pRBfv hyT hI aijhf
PYslf Toisaf jf irhf hY.
(08/12/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf
Dear Moderator S. Makhan Singh jee,
Waheguru jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh
I am grateful to Bhai Narinderpal Singh jee for highlighting the question of
“Rehraas Baani” as published in various Gutkaas or as mentioned in the Sikh Reht
Maryada (1945). For the last (30) years several well-wishers of the Guru Panth
have been pointing out certain irregularities but no one has dared to resolve
the problem.
I shall, therefore, request The Sikh Diaspora to look into this issue
thoughtfully and restore the original position as mentioned in the Guru Granth
Sahib. Before breathing his last on 7 October 1708, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib had
ordained all the Sikhs to obey the Guru Granth Sahib. Then why are we deviating
?
In the Guru Granth Sahib, Baani: “Soe Dar to Saren Paraiy Kee Rakhoh Sarmaa” has
been compiled at pages 8 to 12 i.e. after Japp Jee Sahib (pages 1 to 8) and
before Sohila (pages 12-13). Thus, all controversies and doubts would disappear
if we stick to Rehraas Baani mentioned in the Guru Granth Sahib. While doing so,
we will not be transgression or violating any tenet of Sikh religion.
In so far as the Sikh Reht Maryada (1945) is concerned, at this stage, no one
may be knowing the correct wording of the draft, which was approved in 1936. As
such it is also not clear what further additions-changes-deletions were carried
out by the eight persons or what prompted them to finalise it on 3 February 1945
during the climax of Second World War ?
Since SGPC, SAD and their paid officials/employees are not going to rectify any
such irregularities, The Sikh Diaspora may wish to follow Gurbaani enshrined in
the Guru Grath Sahib.
Thanks for sharing Gurbaani and Gurmatt.
Gurmit Singh (Sydney - Australia)
(07/12/08)
sMpfdk vloN pfTkF/lyKkF dI jfxkfrI ihq
asIN ‘iswK mfrg’ dy pfTkF/lyKkF
nUM pihlF vI keI vfrI sUicq kr cuwky hF aqy hux iPr dubfrf ilK rhy hF ikAuNik
jdoN keI nvyN pfTk ‘iswK mfrg’ nUM pVHn lgdy hn qF Auh eI-myl bfry jF pMjfbI
(gurmuKI) awKrF nUM tfeIp krn bfry jF ilKqF Byjx bfry puwCdy rihMdy hn.
eI-myl bfry:-
‘iswK mfrg’ df eI-myl aYzrYWs muwK pMny dy hyTF iliKaf hoieaf hY aqy hr pMny
qy ies bfry jfxkfrI hY. muwK pMny qy jf ky ‘Éq ilKx leI pqf’ qy mfAus nUM iljfE
qF qusIN hyTF eI-myl pVH skdy ho. pihlF asIN hr pMny dy hyTF ilKdy sI pr jdoN
jMk myl iËafdf afAux lwg pYNdI sI (50-100 qwk roËnf) qF asIN afpxf eI-myl bdl
lYNdy sI jo ik sfrIaF QfvF qy bdlxf kuwJ muÈkl sI. Aus tfeIm qy asIN ‘iswK mfrg’
nUM rYgUlr ilKx vfilaF leI iewk hor eI-myl ËI-myl df dy idwqf sI. asIN sB pfTkF
nUM bynqI krdy hF ik Auh ‘iswK mfrg’ dy muwK pMny vflf eI-myl hI vrqx ijs nUM
asIN idn ivwc iewk qoN iËafdf vfrI vI cYWk kr lYNdy hF pr ËI-myl vflf nhIN krdy.
jdoN kdy vI sfnUM eI-myl df aYzrYWs bdlxf pvy qF asIN ieQy not pf idMdy hF AuNj
hux nvyN srvr qy myl kfPI iPltr ho ky afAuNdI hY aqy ies nUM bdlx dI Èfied Gwt
hI loV pvy. ËMk myl dy zr krky hI asIN iksy vI pfTk/lyKk df eI-myl nhIN ilKdy.
pMjfbI/gurmuKI
awKrF (PONts) bfry aqy ilKqF Byjx bfry:-
qusIN afpxI ilKq nUM koeI
vI PONts vrq ky ilK skdy ho asIN Auh afpy hI knvrt kr lvFgy. qhfnUM afpxI ilKq
nfl vfr-vfr PONts Byjx dI loV nhIN hY isrP afpxI pihlI ilKq nfl hI Byjo Auh vI
qF jy kr qusIN bhuq hI vwKrI iksm dy PONts vrq rhy ho. koiÈÈ kro ik quhfzI ilKq
ivwc isrP iewk hI iksm dy PONts vrqy hox. afpxI ilKq nUM vrz zfkUimMts jF AuNj
hI eI-myl rfhIN Byj idE. ikrpf krky pI[ zI[ aYWP[ POrmyt ivwc nf Byjo ijs qoN ik
kfpI pyst krdy smyN POrmyt guafc jFdI hY aqy hr lfeIn iewk pYrfgrfP ivwc bdl
jFdI hY. ijwQoN qwk ho sky, pMjfbI ivwc ilKx dI koiÈÈ kro. jy kr iksy shfieqf dI
loV hY qF sfnUM dwso. hPqf ku pihlF sfnUM iewk pfTk dI eI-myl afeI sI ik Auh
‘iswK mfrg’ ivc sLfml hoxF cfhuMdf hY pr Aus nUM pMjfbI ivwc ilKx dI smwisaf
afAuNdI hY aqy ieh vI puwiCaf sI ik koeI aMgRyËI qoN pMjfbI ivwc bdlx vflf
pRogrfm hovy qF dwsxf. jdoN Aus nUM pMjfbI ilKx dI smwisaf bfry puwiCaf qF Aus
ny koeI jvfb nhIN idwqf.
‘iswK mfrg’ qy Cpy
lyKF aqy pfTkF dy pMny qy vrqy jFdy PONts bfry:-
ipCly lg-Bg do sfl qoN, jfxI ik dI jnvrI 2007 qoN lyK XUnIkoz ivwc Cp rhy hn.
ies qoN pihlF dy sfry lyK aqy hux qwk pfTkF df pMnf cfqirk ivwc hY. hux asIN
jnvrI 2009 qoN ieh pfTkF df pMnf vI XUnIkoz ivwc pfAuxF ÈurU kr dyvFgy. ieh asIN
afpxI sOK leI hI cfqirk ivwc rwiKaf hoieaf sI, ikAuNik XUnIkoz leI kfPI vfDU kMm
krnf pYNdf hY. ijwQy XUnIkoz mfVI ijhI glqI vI nhIN svIkfrdy AuQy bfkI PONtF
ivwc sB kuwJ cwl jFdf hY. hux keI pfTkF dIaF kfpI pyst krn bfry aqy pVHn vfry
iÈkfieqF imlIaF hn ies leI mËbUrI vws sfnUM ies nUM vI XUnIkoz ivwc hI pAuxf
pYNxf hY.
(07/12/08)
srvjIq isMG
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
afp jI df buhq-buhq DMnvfd jo afp jI ny myry nfl ieh sihmwqI pRgt kIqI hY. ik
mUlmMqr, ÃÄ siq nfm krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl mUirq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]”
qwk hY. myrf svfl qF isrP eynf hI sI.
afp jI dy hyT ilKy svflF sbMDI bynqI hY.
(1) mUl df arQ kI hY?
(2) mMqr df arQ kI huMdy hn?
(3) mUlmMqr dy arQ kI hn?
(4) kI qusIN iksy mMqr ivwc ivÈvfÈ krdy ho?
(5) mUlmMqr df jp kIvyN kIqf jfxf cfhIdf hY?
ieh svfl qF quhfzIaF ZuwcrF hn. qusI hI ienF dy jvfb idE. ieh vI jfxkfrI dyx dI
ikRpflqf krnI jI ik ijvy afp ny afpxy pwqr (11-18-08) ivc iliKaf sI, “mYN vI
afpxy afp nUM ivdvfn smJdf hF.” kI iksy hor ivdvfn ny vI kdy ajyhf iliKaf hY?
DMnvfd
srvjIq isMG
(06/12/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
jrnYl isMG jI aqy iswK mfrg
dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf
vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.
jrnYl isMG jI! qusIN iliKaf hY
ik krm isDFq nfl hukm, ardfs, bKiÈÈ nUM mYN afpy hI by mqlb hI joV irhf hF.
pihlI gwl, kI prmfqmf df hukm
iksy iensfP qy itikaf hY jF by ihsfbf hI iksy nUM gDf, GoVf, kIVf, pMCI jF
iensfn bxf idMdf hY, jF koeI ihsfb ikqfb, lyKf joKf vI hY?
Aus dy hukm ivwc ijs qrHF jIv
dy lyK ilKy hn bMdf Ausy qrHF ivcrdf hY:
“nfnk
hukmI ilKIaY lyK”
aqy Aus df hukm bMdy dy kIqy
krmF anusfr cwldf hY.
“sBy
mfxs dyv siB sBy jog iDafn] sBy purIaf KMz siB sBy jIa jhfn] hukim clfey
afpxY krmI vhY klfm] nfnk scf sic nfie scu sBf dIbfxu]” (pMnf-1241) arQ:
mnuwK qy dyvqy, jog dIaF smfDIaF, DrqI dy mMzl qy ihwsy sfry jgq dy jIa-jMq,
ienHF sBnF nUM prmfqmf afpxy hukm ivwc qordf hY, pr Aus dy hukm dI klm
jIvF dy kIqy krmF anusfr vgdI hY. hy nfnk! Auh pRBU sdf kfiem rihx vflf
hY, Aus df drbfr sdf iQr rihx vflf hY, Aus dy nfm ivwc juiVaF Aus dI pRfpqI
huMdI hY. {Bfv: koeI mnuwK hn, koeI dyvqy hn, koeI smfDIaF lf rhy hn-sfry
jIa-jMq, vwKo- vwK afhry lwgy hoey hn. ieh jo kuwJ ho irhf hY pRBU dy hukm
ivwc ho irhf hY, pr jIvF dI ieh vKo-vK iksm dI rUcI AunHF dy afpo afpxy kIqy
krmF anusfr hY, Pl pRBU dI rËf ivwc iml irhf hY. arQ: pRo: sfihb
isMG}.
“krmf
Aupir inbVY
jy locY sBu koie]” (pMnf-157).
“agY
krxI kIrq vfcIaY bih lyKf kir smJfieaf] (pMnf-464).
“ddY
dosu n dyAU iksY dosu krmf afpixaf] (pMnf-433). afpxy kIqy krmF
anusfr hI jIv duK suK Bogdf hY prmfqmf jF iksy hor nUM doÈ nhIN idwqf jf skdf.
“Audm
krih anyk hir nfm n gfvhI] Brmih join asMK mir jnmih afvhI]
psU pMKI sYl qrvr gxq kCU n afvey] bIj bovis Bog Bogih kIaf
afpxf pfvey] (pMnf-705). Aus dy nfm qoN KuMJ ky aqy afpxy kIqy krmF
anusfr bMdf pÈU, pMÈI, pwQr afid anykF jUnF ivwc Btkdf iPrdf hY.
so krm aqy hukm isDFq nUM mYN
afpxy koloN hI nhIN joiVaf. ieh gurmq PlOsPI hY.
gurmuK bMdf pRBU awgy ardfs
krdf hY:
“kr
joiV nfnk dfn mfgY jnm mrn invfir lyhu] (pMnf-457).
“ieku
duK rfm rfie kfto myrf] agin dhY aru griB bsyrf] (pMnf-329).
“ab kI
bfr bKis bMdy kAu bhuir n BAujil Pyrf] (kbIr, pMnf-1104).
so awgoN jnm mrn dy gyV qoN
Cutkfrf pfAux leI gurmuK bMdf pRBU awgy ardfs krdf hY aqy Aus dI bKiÈÈ dI afs
rwKdf hY.
“hukmI
iliK duK suK pfeIaih] ieknf hukmI bKsIs ieik hukmI sdf
BvfeIaih]” Aus dy ilKy hukm anusfr bMdf duK suK Bogdf hY. keIaF qy
Aus dI bKiÈÈ, imhr ho jFdI hY (Auh afvfgAux dy gyV qoN mukq ho jFdy hn) aqy keI
afvfgAux dy gyV ivwc hI pey rihMdy hn.
“iqnHf
svfry nfnkf ijnH kAu ndir kry]”
“agY
pUiC n hoveI ijsu bylI guru krqfru] afip Czfey CutIaY afpy
bKsxhfru] (pMnf-62).
“srb
inrMqr afpy afip iksy n pUCY bKsy afip] (pMnf-412).
“BfxY
join BvfeIaY BfxY bKs kryie] (pMnf-963).
“drgih
mukiq kry kir ikrpf bKsy avgux kInf hy] (pMnf-1027).
“jy
gur kI srxI iPir Ehu afvY qf ipCly aAugx bKis lieaf] (pMnf-307).
so kIqy krmF aqy pRBU dy hukm
anusfr bMdf jUnIaF ivwc Btkdf hY aqy duK suK Bogdf hY. jdoN pRBU dI ikrpf huMdI
hY qF Auh bKÈ idMdf hY. pRBU awgy ardfs krn nfl Auh ipCly aAugux bKÈ idMdf hY.
Aus nUM Pyr jnm nhIN lYxf pYNdf. Aus df afvfgAux df gyVf kitaf jFdf hY. krm
isDFq nfl hukm, rËf, bKiÈÈ, imhr… mYN afpxy koloN nhIN joVy. ieh gurbfxI df
Purmfn hY. jy ardfs isDFq nfl krm+hukm isDFq df KMzx huMdf hY aqy quhfnUM ardfs
df PlsPf mnjUr nhIN qF ies bfry spwÈt lÌËF ivwc afpxy ivcfr Byjo jI.
jrnYl isMG jI! qusIN bfr bfr
iehI gwl duhrfeI jf rhy ho ik gurbfxI krm isDFq df KMzx krdI hY. pr qusIN ies
gwl vwl iDafn nhIN dy rhy ik mYN iliKaf hY, gurmq krm isDFq df KMzx nhIN krdI pr
gurmq anusfr iewklf krm isDFq aDUrf hY. gurmq, “krm+ hukm isDFq
dI hfmI hY”. so awgoN qoN ies gwl nUM iDafn ivwc rwK ky Pyr koeI svfl krnf.
qusIN kbIr jI dy ijs slok df
hvflf idwqf hY Aus qy dubfrf ivcfr pyÈ kr irhf hF. “kbIr mfns jnmu dulMBu hY,
hoie n bfrY bfr] ijAu bn Pl pfky Buie igrih bhuir n lfgih zfr]”. arQ: hy
kbIr! mnuwKf jnm bVI muÈikl nfl imldf hY (qy, jy pRBU df
nfm ivsfr ky inrf dunIaF ivwc lwg ky iewk vfrIN jIvn hQoN igaf) qF muV muV nhIN
imldf, ijvyN jMgl (dy ruwK) dy Pl (jdoN jmIn Auqy izwg pYNdy hn qF muV zflI nfl
nhIN lwgdy. (arQ-pRo: sfihb isMG).
iewQy Kfs krky mnuwKf jnm bfr
bfr nf imlx dI gwl kIqI geI hY. aqy asfnI nfl nf imlx dI gwl kIqI geI hY. asfnI
nfl nf imlx df mqlb hY anykF jnmF/ jUnF ivwc Btkx qoN mÊroN ieh mnuwKf jnm
imilaf hY. ikAuNik mnuwK nUM hI cMgy-mfVy, TIk-Êlq dI soJI hY. ies leI mnuwKf
jnm ivwc hI pRBU imln bfry soicaf aqy Audm kIqf jf skdf hY. ieh mnuwKf jnm iewk
vfrIN Kqm hox qy dubfrf vylf CyqI hwQ nhIN afAuNdf. iesy ivcfr nUM kbIr jI iewk
Èbd ivwc ies qrHF Purmfn krdy hn:
“lK
cAurfsIh join BRim afieE] ab ky Cutky TAur n TfieE]” (pMnf-337).
(jIv) cOrfsI lwK jUnF ivwc
Btk Btk ky (BfgF nfl mnuwKf jnm ivwc) afAuNdf hY, pr iewQoN BI KuMJ ky iPr
koeI QF- iQwqf (ies nUM) nhIN imldf. (arQ-pRo: sfihb isMG).
hux iewk vfrIN Pyr quhfzy muK
muwdy qy ivcfr: quhfzy muqfbk “Human life is
rare, something that you don’t get time and again. The deed dependent births or
theory of reincarnation does not fit into this logic as it makes human life
something cheaply available and something that is nor rare at all”[
jrnYl isMG jI! krm+hukm isDFq
“mnmuK bMdf kIqy mfVy krmF krky anykF jUnF ivwc Btkdf iPrdf hY, Pyr jdoN
pRBU dI imhr huMdI hY qF ies nUM mnuwKf jnm imldf hY” mMnx nfl mnuwKf jnm
sOKf imlxf (Cheaply available)
iks qrHF ho igaf? “mfns jnm dulMB hY” ivcfr dy
sMbMD ivwc mYN jo ivcfr idwqy hn ies bfry gurbfxI hvfilaF dy arQF smyq afpxy
ivcfr vI Byjxy jI.
qusIN iliKaf hY: “You
are Overlooking this fundamental principal of Gurmat and are happy to believe
that human life is a punishment and not a rare blessing”[
jrnYl isMG jI! kI qusIN hvflf pyÈ kr skdy ho, mYN ikwQy iliKaf hY ik mnuwKf jnm
sËf hY?
jrnYl isMG jI! jIv dy dunIaF qy
afAux dy sMbMD ivwc mYN gurbfxI dy jo hvfly idwqy hn ik sMsfr rcnf pRBU dI Kyz
hY. jIv krmF df bwJf sMsfr qy nhIN afieaf pRBU dI rËf ivwc Aus dI Kyz df ihwsf
bx ky sMsfr qy afieaf hY. jdoN pRBU ny sMsfr rcnf kIqI AudoN hI krmF df islslf
vI ÈurU hoieaf. aqy krmF df bwJf jIv afvfgAux dy gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY.
(gurmuK bx ky bMdf afvfgAux dy gyV qoN Cuwt jFdf hY). myry pyÈ kIqy sfry gurbfxI
hvfly quhfnUM mnjUr hn. AunHF bfry quhfnUM koeI ieqrfj nhIN. pr quhfzf svfl Pyr
vI Ausy qrHF hI KVf hY. ies df qF iswDf mqlb iehI inkldf hY ik quhfnUM gurmq
isDFq hI Êlq nËr af irhf hY. jy aYsf nhIN hY qF mYN jo gurbfxI hvfly idwqy hn
pihlF AunHF dy arQF smyq AunHF bfry afpxy ivcfr Byjo jI.
jrnYl isMG jI!
aglI vfrIN krm isDFq bfry svfl krn qoN pihlF ies gwl df iDafn rwKxf ik myry
muqfbk, gurbfxI anusfr iekwlf “krm” isDFq aDUrf hY. gurmq “krm+ hukm” isDFq
dI hfmI hY. “krm” isDFq nUM Êlq dws ky mYnUM koeI svfl nf krnf jI.
qusIN ieqrfj kIqf hY ik
kMpIAUtr dI mdd nfl sOKy hI gurbfxI hvfly lwBy jf skdy hn. aslI gwl qF AunHF dy
gurmq isDFq anusfr arQ krn dI hY.
jrnYl isMG jI! afpF iewQy iswK
mfrg qy gurbfxI ivcfr krn hI qF iewkTy huMdy hF. jy gurbfxI hvfly sOKy hI lwB
jFdy hn qF ieh cMgI gwl hI hY. rhI gwl TIk arQ krn dI. hr ivakqI afpxy ihsfb nfl
arQ TIk hI smJdf hY. pr asl ivwc TIk Êlq df PYslf qF pfTkF ny hI krnf hY. pr pqf
nhIN ikAuN kMipAUtr dI mdd lY ky vI nf qF qusIN gurbfxI hvfly pyÈ krdy ho aqy nf
hI myry pyÈ kIqy hvfilaF dy gurmq anusfr afpxy TIk arQ krky dwsdy ho ik mYN
ikwQy Êlq hF.
jrnYl isMG jI! aglI vfrIN myry
nfl ivcfr sFJy krn vyly myry vwloN pyÈ kIqy gurbfxI hvfilaF dy arQ krky dwsxf ik
mYN ikwQy aqy iksqrHF Êlq hF. aqy afpxy ivcfrF nfl gurbfxI hvfly jrUr Byjxy jI
nhIN qF myry vwloN ivcfr awgy qornIN muÈikl hovy gI.
quhfzf koeI svfl, jvfb dyx qoN
rih igaf hovy qF dws dyxf. myry iqMno hI svfl ijnHF dy jvfb qusIN idwqy qF sI pr
myry svflF anusfr koeI vI nhIN sI. ies leI Auh iqMnoN hI svfl jvfb dI mMg krdy
hn. Bul cuwk leI muafÌI cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
(403) 248 2169
(06/12/08)
zf: gurmuK isMG
Mail for Gurmit singh
I am glad that
you have studied my Book “Dasam Granth Dee Vichaar, gurbani addhaar tey, and
agree with the approach to understanding of Dasam Granth, sarab loh granth,
dozens of rahetnaamas and puratan sikh ithaas, supposed to have been written by
guru Gobind Singh or sikh scholars much after Guru Gobibd Singh Ji left this
world.
We now know that
Guru Gobind Singh Ji never wrote any Bani and there is no record of his
directions regarding rahets and kurehats. We also now know that Sikh Ittehas was
written by Brahmins, nirmalas and udasis who were Scholars of Ved Mat and were
believers in admiration of devis devtas and meditation on them. This spurious
ittehas was written with the ulterior motive of merging the Sikh faith into
Hindu faith. They subverted the Sikh faith to the Vedic faith. Gurbani (Bani
Guru) forbids meditation on devi devtas. Guru Granth Sahib is the only true
guide of Sikhs.
The present Sikh
Rehat Maryada enforced in 1945 was formulated under the misconception that dasam
granth and sarab loh granth were uttered by the tenth Guru and other books were
written by Sikhs. Today the Banis from dasam granth and sarab loh granth are
included in our Nitnem gutkas and keertnee pothis simply because of the original
error. Sikhs now unwittingly meditate on devi devtas when they recite the
nitnem. They meditate on devi Bhagauti during daily Ardaas. Devi, devtas have
now entered the collective and individual consciousness of Sikhs. We are
unknowingly and silently being converted into Hindu faith. Scholars say that
there will be no Sikh in about ten years. The signs of this demise are now
clear. Intelligent Sikhs must wake up and do every thing to awaken our leaders.
This is the only way to rejuvenation of the Sikh Panth.
Some like minded
scholars in India have now decided to form a registered association to educate
the Sikhs and Sikh institutions. The association will have a President and about
five advisers, who will be Kesa Dhari Sikhs. They will be intellectuals who
understand Gurbani teachings and Gurbani edicts on Vedas shastras, simrities and
puranas. They will be morally upright and will follow the teachings of Gurbani
and no other scripture. They will work for the Panthic cause without desire for
monetary or any other rewards.
The new Sikh body
should be capable of preaching Sikhism and send directives to Sikhs all over the
world.
We will request
Sikhs in USA, Canada, UK, and Australia also to constitute such bodies and
ultimately join us to form one International Sikh apex body. Your mail has given
me the opportunity to reach other like minded Sikhs in other countries. May I
request them to give their advice on the proposal?
You have asked me
to quote the price for 50 or 100 books of a next edition for free distribution.
I propose to revise and enlarge the next edition taking into account the doubts
that still arise in the minds of the readers. It may include one or two chapters
from other scholars. The book will be published along with the reviews.
The book is
already available on line at www khalsaidentity.com,
www.sikhmarg.com and
www.thesikhaffairs.org
The printing cost
of the next book with hard cover will be about 125 rupees. The sale price of the
Book will be about 250 rupees in India. It will be easier for me to commence
work on the next edition if I get preprint orders for 400 Books. The balance
will be contributed by me. May I request GurSikhs from other countries also to
send preprint orders so that there can be widespread distribution. Ultimately
the book should reach every Sikh home and Sikh Institution.
With regards,
Gurmukh Singh.
B6/58 Safdarjang Enclave New Delhi 110029, Tel 26102376.
For persons
residing in USA, Canada, and UK I have an America based Tel No
(001)-650-585-6769. I can be contacted any time between 9 AM and 9 PM India
Time.
(06/12/08)
iekbfl isMG sMGf
vaheguru mehar kare.....shukar hai...asi apne ghar nu dekhna shuru kar dita hai.....
(05/12/08)
nirMdrpfl isMG afstRylIaf
KojI
AupjY bfdI ibnsY hAu bil bil gur krqfrf] (p: 1255)
siqkfr Xog sR mwKx isµG jI
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh
iswK mfrg iswK pµQ aqy gurmiq bfry Koj BrpUr jfxkfrI dyx vflf ieko iewk hI prcf
hY ijsdf afpxf iewk standard
hY. ies ivwc ijQy ivdvfn swjx afpxy ivcfr pyÈ krdy
hn AuQy dUijaF nfl ivcfr ivtfdrf vI krdy hn jo ik bhuq lfBkfrI sfbq ho irhf hY.
iswK mfrg ivwc lyKk pVHy ilKy qy gurmiq igafn dI BrpUr XfxkfrI rKdy hn. ieh
vwKrI gwl hY keI duinafvI pRoPYsrF nµU iswK mfrg hwzf roVI jfp irhf hY. duinafvI
izgrI pRfpq kr lYxI qy gurmiq dy Xfxkfr hoxf vwK-vwK gwlF hn. sfzy gurU sfihb jI
ny duinafvI pVHfeI krn qoN nhIN roikaf sgoN piVaF dI sµgq krn aqy pVHfeI krn dy
hukm idqy hn-
sqI phrI squ Blf bhIaY piVaf pfis] (p: 146)
pr nfl hI spwÈt vI kIqf hY gurbfxI ivwc –
qUM gxqY iknY n pfieE scy alK apfrf] piVHaf mUrKu afKIaY
ijsu lbu loBu ahMkfrf]
iswK mfrg dy ividvfnF qy pfTkF nUµ bynqI hY ieh sBdf sFJf hY qy sfzf tIcf iewk
dUjy qoN iswKx df hoxf cfhIdf hY nf ik Bjx BjfAux df. asIN sfry iewk dUjy dy
ivcfr suxIey aqy AuhnF qy vIcfr krIey. jy sfnUµ nvyN vIcfrF dI roÈnI ivwc afpxy
purfxy vIcfr bdlny pYNdy hn qF ies ivwc koeI hyTI nhIN smJxI cfhIdI iswK qF sfrI
Aumr hI iswKx leI iqafr rhy. afAu asIN sfry hI gurmiq mfrg qy cwlx dI koiÈÈ
krIey. iswK mfrg ivwc ilKx vfly lyKkF bfry vIcfr iPr kdI ilK ky ByjFgf. BulF
cukF leI iKmF.
iswK mfrg leI iewk lyK Byj irhf hF. jy Xog hovy qF Cfp dyxf jI.
gurU pµQ df dfsrf
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gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI
kysF dI byadbI krn vfly afpf suDfrx dI bjfey nhIN cfhuMdy ik iswK
kOm piqqpuxy dy jMjfl qoN mukq hovy: Tykydfr
kpUrQlf 5 dsMbr (kfdIafnI, ikrxpRIq BftIaf) sihjDfrI dy muwdy qy
kOm nUM gumrfh krn vfly afpy bxy afgU iswK ivroDI ÈkqIaF dy Zfhy cVH ky PokI
ibafnbfjI kr rhy hn. sihjDfrI iswK PYzryÈn nfl juVy ieh ivakqI afpxI ies bËr
kurihq nUM suDfrx dI bjfey keI sflF qoN kysF dI byadbI krdy af rhy hn. iswK
imÈnrI kflj srkl kpUrQlf dy ieMcfrj aqy pRmuwK ivdvfn Tykydfr suirMdr isMG ny
awj spoksmYn nfl gwl kridaF ikhf ik sihjDfrI dy arQ smJx dI bjfey ijhVy ivakqI
ajy vI mYN nf mfnUM dI rwt lf ky kysF dy siqkfr vwl iewk kdm vI nhIN vDf sky,
AuhnF qoN sihjy sihjy iswKI vwl prqx dI kI AumId kIqI jf skdI hY. iswK rihq
mirafdf anusfr bËr kurihqF krn vflf spwÈt qOr qy piqq aYlfinaf hoieaf hY. aijhf
piqq iswK kOm ivwc kyvl aMimRq Cwk ky hI vfpsI kr skdf hY. s[ Tykydfr ny iehnF
ivcfrF nfl sihmqI pRgt kridaF ikhf ik bfxI qoN ielfvf ijs pfs gurU df bKiÈaf
hoieaf bfxf (srUp) hI nhIN, AusnUM iswK iks qrHF ikhf jf skdf hY? s[ Tykydfr ny
mIzIaf vrg nUM vI slfh idwqI ik Auh iswKI dy Bly leI aijhI byquwkI ibafnbfjI
Cfpx qoN guryj krn.
ÈRomxI kmytI vloN “iswK” dI pirBfÈf qy pihrf dyx nfl piqqpuxy qy rok
lwgx qy sMBfvnf: hrjIq isMG jlMDr
iswK PulvfVI dy muwK sMpfdk s[ hrjIq isMG jlMDr ny ÈRomxI
gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI vloN adflq ivwc dfier kIqI jfx vflI ‘iswK’ dI pirBfÈf nUM
ÈRomxI kmytI vloN cuwikaf igaf iblkuwl shI kdm dwisaf hY. iswK rihq mirafdf ivwc
drj “iswK” dI pirBfÈf nUM ÈRomxI kmytI dI kfrjkfrxI vloN afpxI mohr lfey jfx nfl
inÈcy hI piqqpuxy vrgI smwisaf qoN injfq iml skygI. AuhnF ikhf ik ies PYsly ivwc
koeI nvIN gwl nhIN, sgoN ies bfry qF Kflsf pMQ ny pihlF qoN hI afpxI sihmqI
idwqI hoeI hY. hux loV kyvl ies gwl dI hY ik sfrIaF pMQk iDrF zwt ky ies Aupr
pihrf dyx. kysF dI byadbI krn vfly piqq ivakqI nUM hux iswKI ivwc Èfml hox leI
mukMml qOr qy sfbq sUrq hoxf pvygf. iehI nhIN, sgoN ieKlfk qoN zoldy ivakqIaF
aqy niÈaF dI dldl ivwc Psy ivakqIaF leI ieh pirBfÈf iJMjoVx df kMm krygI. AuhnF
spwÈt kIqf ik sihjDfrI lPË df BfvyN iswK rihq mirafdf ivwc koeI ijkr nhIN, pr
BfeI kfhn isMG nfBf vloN afpxIaF ikqfbF ivwc iesdf ijkr imldf hY. sihjy sihjy
iswK Drm dI pgzMzI vwl vwD rhy mnuwK nUM sihjDfrI kQn krnf TIk hY. pr ies avwsQf
leI vI pUrn kysfDfrI hoxf jrUrI hY. AuhnF ÈRomxI kmytI nUM apIl kIqI ik kmytI dy
pRbMD aDIn ividak adfiraF ivwc kyvl aMimRqDfrI ividafrQIaF leI hI sItF rfKvIaF
rwKIaF jfx. ikAuNik kysfDfrI hox dI afV ivwc keI vfrI iswK ivroDI zyiraF nfl
juVy ivakqI vI Pfiedf AuTf jFdy hn.
Dfrimk jQybMdIaF vloN srfhuxf:
ies dOrfn Èihr dIaF pRmuwK Dfrimk jQybMdIaF dy numfieMidaF ny
afpxI aihm mIitMg krky ÈRomxI kmytI dy ies PYsly df BrpUr svfgq kIqf hY. mIitMg
ivwc ieh mihsUs kIqf igaf ik purÈF dy nfl-nfl iswK bIbIaF ivwc vI piqqpuxf burI
qrHF isr cVH ky bol irhf hY. 90% ÈihrI iswK muitafrF afpxIaF lMmIaF lMmIaF guwqF
nUM sfbq nhIN rwK skIaF. kyvl aMimRqDfrI bIbIaF aqy kuVIaF hI kysF dI byadbI qoN
bwc skIaF hn. hux iswKI dy dfiery ivwc bxy rihx leI kysfDfrI hoxf pihlI Èrq smJI
jfvygI. awj dy ies PYsly nfl koeI kys ivhUxf ivakqI ÈRomxI kmytI dIaF coxF ivwc
ihwsf nhIN lY skydf. ies qoN pihlF kysF dI byadbI krn vfly ivakqI sihjDfrIaF dy
nF qy ÈRomxI kmytI dIaF coxF ivwc ihwsf lYNdy rhy hn. kuwl imlf ky hux pUrn
guriswKF votr hI afpxy numfieMidaF nUM cux skxgy. awj dI ies mIitMg ivwc smUh
isMG sBfvF dy knvInr hrjIq isMG BftIaf, gurU goibMd isMG stwzI srkl dy kpUrQlf
Ëon dy pRo[ mnmohn isMG sumftrf, crnjIq isMG vflIaf, iswK imÈnrI kflj vloN hrBjn
isMG, gurmIq isMG, jspfl isMG kflVf, ajIqpfl isMG kflVf, Tykydfr suirMdr isMG,
suKbIr isMG DMdoeI, mnmohn isMG, AuWjl isMG, aMimRqpfl isMG, nvqyj isMG, gurU
nfnk inÈkfm kIrqnI jQy vloN BfeI virafm isMG kpUr, hrivMdr isMG dIpngr, hrdIp
isMG, srbjIq isMG, divMdr isMG dyv, dÈmyÈ syvk jQy vloN rCpfl isMG istI kybl
vfly, jsbIr isMG rfxf, rijMdr isMG dyv, klgIDr syvk jQy vloN jsivMdr isMG bwqrf,
hrbMs isMG bwqrf, suKjIq isMG vflIaf, nOjvfn syvk jQf styt gurduafrf jQy dy muwK
syvfdfr gurpRIq isMG grovr, ieMdrpRIq isMG hYpI, suKrfj isMG, bfbf dIp isMG
gwqkf aKfVf vloN hrpRIq isMG rOxI, ieMdrpfl isMG aqy crnjIq isMG afid ny ihwsf
ilaf.
(05/12/08)
dsm gRMQ vIcfr mMc vloN muwK syvfdfr bfry iek KLbr
ijhVy muK syvfdfr
kOmI muwidaF dy hwl nUM ivafh qoN ipwCoN hwl krn dy lfry lf rhy hn, AunHF sfrI
rfq Poky snmfn smfrohF `c guafeI: BfeI suirMdr isMG
ÌrIdfbfd, 5 dsMbr (siqnfm kOr)
: ijhVy muK syvfdfr kOmI muwidaF dy hwl nUM ivafh qoN ipwCoN hwl krn dy lfry lf
rhy hn, AunHF sfrI rfq Poky snmfn smfrohF `c guafeI. ieh Èbd ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb
jI nUM smripq jQybMdI, dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) vIcfr mMc dy koafrzInytr BfeI
suirMdr isMG ÌrIdfbfd ny, lMgr lfAux vfly sMq bfibaF df snmfn krn leI bIqI rfq
luiDafxy ivKy hoey smfgm `qy pRqIkrm kridaF khy. ieh dwsxXog hY ik ijnHF bfibaF
ny 300 sflf gurqf gwdI smfgm mOky nFdyV ivKy lMgr lfey sn, AunHF df mfn snmfn
krn leI bfdl dl dy aYWs[ jI[ pI[ sI[ mYNbr rijMdr isMG mihqf aqy amrjIq isMG
cfvlf vloN luiDafxf ivKy bIqI rfq snmfn smfroh krvfieaf igaf, ijs df iswDf
pRsfrx aYWm[ aYWc[ vn inAUË cYWnl `qy ho irhf sI. ieh dwsxXog hY ik ies smfgm `c
snmfn pRfpq krn vfilaF dI igxqI ieqnI ijafdf sI ik styj skwqr nUM AunHF sfiraF
dy nfm lYx `c BfrI idwkq af rhI sI aqy keI vfr kfhlI `c Aus nUM ieh nhIN sI pqf
lwg irhf ik snmfn dyx vflf ikhVf hY aqy lYx vfly ikhVy hn. iesy AulJx `c Pisaf
Auh ikqny vfr hI snmfn kOx dy irhf hY aqy pRfpq kOx kr irhf hY, dy nfm afps `c
bdl ky boldf irhf, ijs dI bfad `c Aus nUM soD krnI pYNdI sI. dmdmI tksfl dy muKI
bfbf hrnfm isMG DuMmf dI ies gwloN isÌq kIqI jf rhI sI ik Aus ny nFdyV ivKy mfqf
sfihb dyvF dy gurduafry `c dsm gRMQ df pfT boD smfgm krvfieaf sI. BfeI suirMdr
isMG ny ikhf ik ieh iswK kOm dI bdiksmqI hI hY ik ÈqfbdI qF hovy ÈRI gurU gRMQ
sfihb jI dI, pr snmfn kIqf jf irhf hY, gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df srIk pYdf krn vfly
bfbf DuMmf df. AunHF hYrfnI pRgt kIqI ik bfbf DuMmf nUM lMgr dI syvf krn vfilaF
dy nfmF dI lMbI sUcI dwsidaF Ausy qrË `qy vfr vfr kihxf pYNdf sI ik sUcI bhuq
lMbI hY, mYN iks iks df lfm lvF, ijs qrË `qy aKOqI dsm gRMQ dy ilKfrI nUM ilKxf
pYNdf sI ‘kQf vDx `qy aiDk zrUM’. BfeI suirMdr isMG ny ikhf ik hr bulfry dI
iewko pYWt quk huMdI sI ‘siqgur kI syvf sPl hY, jy ko kry icqu lfie]’ AunHF ikhf
ik iksy bulfry dy mUMhoN ieh Èbd nhIN suxy gey ik syvf AunHF ikrqI aqy inÈkfm
syvkF dI sPl huMdI hY, ijhVy “ikrq ivrq kr Drm dI, hQhuM dyky Blf mnfvY”, vfly
hox nf ik AunHF dI ijnF ny syvf nUM ikrq bxf ilaf hovy. BfeI suirMdr isMG ny
ikhf ik lMgrF dI syvf krn bdly snmfn pRfpq krn vfly aqy snmfn dyx vfilaF `coN
ikqny ku Drm dI ikrq krn vfly sn, ieh Auh hI ds skdy hn, ijhVy snmfn dy nfm `qy
AunHF dI hAumy nUM pwTy pf rhy hn. BfeI suirdr isMG ny ikhf ik ijqnI dyr syvf
nUM ikrq bxfAux vfly bfibaF dI pihcfx krky sMgq AunHF nUM durkfrnf ÈurU nhIN
krdI, AuqnI dyr ienHF bfibaF dI POj vDdI rihxI hY qy iswK Drm dy sunihrI isDFqF
df mlIafmyt huMdf rihxf hY. AunHF ikhf ik ies smfgm `c iewk cMgf sunyhf ËrUr
imilaf hY ik ies snmfn smfgm `c ikrqI lokF dI ÈmUlIaq nf dy brfbr sI, ijs df
sbUq afpxy BfÈx dOrfn iewk bfby vloN luiDafxy vfilaF nUM qfany imhxy dyxf sI,
ijhVf kih irhf sI ik ies qoN vwD iekwT qF Coty ijhy ipMz `c rwKy smfgm `co ho
jFdf hY pr ieqny vwzy Èihr `c smfgm `c hfËrI dI hflq ieh hY ik jykr snmfn pRfpq
krn vfly bfibaF dy nfl 5-5 gVveI nf afey huMdy qF ieh pMzfl KflI hoxf sI. BfeI
suirMdr isMG ny ijwQy iswK sMgqF `c afeI jfgrUkqf `qy KuÈI pRgt kIqI, AuWQy ies
gwl `qy duK pRgt vI kIqf ik akfl qKq sfihb dy ijhVy muK syvfdfr igafnI gurbcn
isMG ny dsm gRMQ dy ivvfd vrgy kOmI msly nUM ltkfAux leI bhfnf bxfieaf hY ik qKq
ÈRI kysgVH sfihb dy muK syvfdfr igafnI qrlocn isMG dy lVky df 9 dsMbr nUM ivafh
hox kfrn AunHF kol gwl krn df smF nhIN sI pr ivafh qoN pihlF hI ienHF dovyN muK
syvfdfrF ny sfrI rfq iewk dUjy dy gl ivwc isropy pfAuNidaF guËfr idwqI. BfeI
suirMdr isMG ny ikhf ik ies qoN iswD huMdf hY ik kOmI muwidaF qoN Bwjx vfly muK
syvfdfr PËUl dy smfgmF `c afpxf smF guaf rhy hn.
(04/12/08)
jrnYl isMG afstRylIaf
Dear Jasvir Singh Ji
As I said earlier there is no point picking up quotes from GGS to justify a
viewpoint unless that viewpoint fits in well with the fundamental logic of GGS.
It is very easy to find such quotes and there is no scholarship involved in it,
all you got to do is sit before your computer and click on couple of icons.
Guru says that human life is precious and rare. This was a new idea otherwise
people were being told that they are product of the Great Sin or a punishment
for not doing well in their previous lives. This should have answered your first
question and prompted you to have a re look at what you are saying about
reincarnation. When Guru says that human life is rare, that means you don’t get
it time and again. It is pretty simple logic. However in your hurry to justify
theory of Karma and reincarnation, you are overlooking this fundamental
principal of Gurmat and are happy to believe that human life is a punishment and
not a rare blessing.
You have quoted from GGS justifying that process of life in this universe can be
and has been terminated in the past and can be and has been restarted again. As
I told you before I do not have problem with that. What I am saying that this is
contradicting your theory of Karma. I am asking you to resolve this
contradiction.
Similarly you have quoted from GGS justifying that life is blessing by God or
that prayer can be help get a person out of the cycle of birth and death. I am
not asking you to provide evidence from GGS regarding this. I am saying that
this is contradicting the theory of Karma. I want you to come back with a
logical explanation to resolve this contradiction.
In my previous mails I put you some questions to underline and highlight these
conflicts and contradictions. You are filling in your letters with more and more
quotes and avoiding answering those questions. Do not take it in the wrong
sense. I do not mean to be rude here. I feel that you are not able to get over
the hangover of Hinduism. Instead of revising your interpretation of Karma and
reincarnation, you are trying to justify it by tagging it to
Hukam+Prayer+Blessings even though these concepts clearly repudiate this theory.
In your letters you have mentioned the name of Prof Sahib Singh. I read Prof
Sahib Singh almost everyday. Truck loads of garbage have been dumped into the
household of Sikhi by its enemies. Thanks to the Himalayan efforts by persons
like Prof Sahib Singh and Bhai Kahn Singh, a lot has been cleaned out. And if
want to show true respect to Prof Sahib Singh, we should continue his work. The
best tribute to Prof Sahib Singh is to be logical and consistent in
interpretation of Gurbani, even though it leads to some sort of disagreement
with what he has said.
Regards
Jarnail Singh
Sydney Australia
(03/12/08)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
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iswK mfrg dy pfTk sjxo
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
srvjIq isMG jI
qusF iliKaf ik:
ivdvfnF dI sMgq krn aqy AunHF dIaF ilKqF nUM pVHn qoN mY ijs
nqIjy qy puijaf hF Aus anUsfr mUlmMqr,
ÃÄ siq nfmu krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl
mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]] qwk hY jy kr koeI swjx ies qoN
vwKrI rfey rwKdf hovy qF mY Aus nUM jI afieaF afKdf hF aqy dlIl nfl ivcfr crcf
krn df swdf idMdf hF.
jy koeI vwKrI rfey rwKdf hY qF
mYN Aus nUM jI afieaF afKdf hF, vIr myiraf mYN koeI vwKrI rfey nhIN rwKdf qF,
kI mYnUM jI afieaF nhIN khogy?
qusF hux dI icTI ivwc iliKaf hY
ik afp vlo eynF ilKx nfl ieh spwÈt nhI hoieaf ik ikwQy
qusI vwKrI rfey nhI rwKdy? ies nUM ivsQfr nfl ilKx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI.
srvjIq myrf Bfv hY ik mYN quhfzy vloN
aMikq kIqy hoey dfiery ivwc rih ky afpxy kuwJ ÈMikaF df invfrx cfhuMdf hF.
Auh ÈMky hn:
qusIN afpxI icTI ivwc ivdvfnF
dI sMgq bfry iliKaf hY ikRpf krky dsogy aijhy ikhVy BfgÈflI sjx hn ijnHF nUM
qusIN ivdvfn smJdy ho. hF jy nfl hI ivdvfn df arQ vI smJf idE qF quhfzI bhuq
ikRpf hovygI. mYN vI afpxy afp nUM ivdvfn smJwx dI Bul kr bYTf sI pr Blf hovy
gurpRIq isMG smrf jI df ijnHF ny mYnUM Kbrdfr kr idqf.
qusF mUlmMqr bfry iliKaf.
ikRpf krky spÈt krnf jI
(1) mUl df arQ kI
hY?
(2) mMqr df arQ kI
huMdy hn?
(3) mUlmMqr dy arQ
kI hn?
(4) kI qusIN iksy
mMqr ivwc ivÈvfÈ krdy ho?
(5) mUlmMqr df jp
kIvyN kIqf jfxf cfhIdf hY?
qrlocn isMG
(02/12/08)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
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iswK mfrg dy pfTk sjxo
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
pRo[ gurbcn isMG jI
quhfzf lyK pVHn nUM imilaf. vIr
mwKx isMG jI qoN jfxkfrI hfsl hoeI sI ik qusIN gurmiq ivcfrF krn leI ivdyÈF df
dorf kr rhy ho, ies leI quhfzy kol ajy smF nhIN hY, srdfr gurbcn isMG jI jdoN
ikqy ivhl imly qF mYnUM vI afpxy igafn dy smUMdr ivcoN QoVI jhI roÈnI dI ikrn
nfl jrUr invfjo, kuwJ ku sMLky hn jy invfrx kro qF qih idloN DMnvfdI hovFgf.
qusF gurbfxI dy ienHF sbdF ivwc afey sbd
joiq dI inrfly hI arQ kIqy hn
ey srIrf myiraf hir qum mih joiq rKI qf qU jg mih afieaf]
hir joiq rKI quDu ivic, qf qU jg mih afieaf]
hir afpy mfqf afpy ipqf ijin jIAu Aupfie jgqu idKfieaf]
gur prsfdI buiJaf qf clqu hoaf clqu ndrI afieaf]
khY nfnku isRsit kf mUlu ricaf joiq rfKI qf qU jg mih afieaf]
gwl spwÈt hY ik hy myry srIr!
qyrI hoNd EdoN hI sfkfr hoeI jdoN qyry srIr ivwc joq nUM itkfieaf igaf. ies joq
dI AuqpqI mfqf ipqf duafrf hoeI hY qy mfqf ipqf ivwc vI qyrI hI joq hY---srb
joiq qyrI psir rhI] jh jh dyKf qh nrhrI] ieh joq Bfv ieh inXmfvlI sfry sMsfr
ivwc ieksfr ivcr rhI hY. ‘hir qum
mih joiq (cyqMqf) rKI’ Bfv iËAuNdf ‘jIn’ hI joq hY.
ijs qrHF suwky sVy dfxy ËmIn ivcoN nhIN AuWgdy ieMj hI miraf hoieaf ‘jIn’ kdy vI
sfkfr nhIN huMdf. sfrI isRistI df mUl prmfqmf dI joq hY. nr qy mdIn dy itÈU lY
ky eysy inXm dy qihq awj ivigafnIafN ny klon ivDI duafrf nvyN ZFcy iqafr krn dy
smrwQ hY.
igafnI jI spÈt krnf ik,
kI jIn hI joq hY?
ijs df ijkr gurbfxI ivwc keI
QfeIN imldf hY. ijAuNdf jINn aqy mry hoey jIn ivwc kI Prk huMdf hY?
kI miraf hoieaf jIn joq nhIN
huMdf?
kI jdoN gurbfxI df pRkfÈ hoieaf
qF Aus smyN jIn bfry ies Klkq nUM jfxkfrI sI?
jy jIn hI joiq hY qF kI cMd
sUrj vI jIn hI hn? ikAuNik gurbfxI anusfr Auh vI joiq hn
cMdu sUrju duie joiq srUpu] joqI aMqir bRhmu
anUpu] 1] kru, ry igafnI bRhm bIcfru] joqI aMqir Diraf psfru] 1] rhfAu]
hIrf dyiK hIry krAu afdysu] khY kbIru inrMjn alyKu] 2] 2] 11] {pMnf 972}
qusIN joiq nUM cyqMqf vI ds rhy
ho. ikRpf kro aOr ivsQfr ivwc dso ik cyqMqf qoN quhfzf kI Bfv hY?
quhfzy jvfb dI AuzIk ivc
qrlocn isMG
(02/12/08)
gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI
awj aihm
mIitMg ivwc PYslf ley jfx dI sMBfvnf
‘iswK’ dI
pirBfÈf df muwdf ÈRomxI kmytI dy gly dI hwzI bixaf
kpUrQlf 2 dsMbr (kfdIafnI,
ikrxpRIq BftIaf) awj ÈRomxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI dI kfrjkfrxI ‘iswK’ lPË nUM
pirBfiÈq krn leI afpxI iewk aihm mIitMg kr rhI hY. awj ley jfx vfly PYsly anusfr
hI ÈRomxI kmytI prsoN 5 dsMbr nUM mfxXog adflq ivwc iswK dI pirBfÈf bfry afpxf
pwK pyÈ krygI. vrxnXog hY ik ÈRomxI kmytI dy pRbMD aDIn iewk kflj ivwc kysF nUM
tirm krn vflI iewk iswK aKvfAuNdI lVkI nUM dfKlf nf dyx qoN AuqpMn ivvfd ivwc
Aus lVkI ny iswK hox dI pirBfÈf nUM afpxy vkIl rfhIN cunOqI idwqI hoeI hY.
mfxXog adflq ny iswKF dI pRqIinD jQybMdI vjoN ÈRomxI kmytI nUM ieh inrdyÈ idwqy
sn ik Auh adflq ivwc iswK dI pirBfÈf bfry afpxf isDFqk pwK spwÈt kry. pr
isafsqdfnF dy pMjy hyT burI qrHF jkVI hoeI ies Dfrimk jQybMdI ny ajy qwk adflq
ivwc koeI jvfb dfKl krn qoN tflf hI vwtI rwiKaf hY.
drasl iswK dI pirBfÈf nUM bVy spwÈt lPjF ivwc ÈRomxI kmytI vloN Cfpky vMzI jFdI
pMQ pRvfinq iswK rihq mirafdf ivwc drj kIqf hoieaf hY ik “jo iesqrI jF purÈ iewk
akfl purK, ds gurU sfihbfn (sRI gurU nfnk dyv jI qoN lY ky sRI gurU goibMd isMG
sfihb qk), sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb aqy ds gurU sfihbfn dI bfxI qy iswiKaf aqy dsmyÈ
jI dy aMimRq AuWqy inÈcf rwKdf hY aqy iksy hor Drm nUM nhIN mMndf, Auh iswK hY.”
ieh rihq mirafdf sMn 1945 qoN lwKF dI igxqI ivwc Cfpky hr iswK qwk phuMcfAux dy
Xqn kIqy jFdy rhy hn. hux svfl AuWTdf hY ik jykr iswK kOx hY? nUM Auprokq iswK
rihq mirafdf ivwc spwÈt klmbMd kIqf hoieaf hY qF ÈRomxI kmytI nUM kI muÈkl hY ik
Auh ajy qwk ies bfry mfxXog adflq nUM nhIN dws skI. zUMGfeI ivwc jfieaF ies
ivvfd dI qfr vI isafsqdfnF dy hoCy hwQkMizaF ivwc hI PsI idKfeI idMdI hY.
Auprokq drj pirBfÈf anusfr iewk akflpurK, ds gurU sihbfnF aqy ÈRI gurU gRMQ
sfihb jI dI isiKaf qy aml krn vflf hI iswK aKvf skdf hY. ies anusfr qF ijhVy
kUky nfmDfrI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM gurU vflf drjf nf dy ky afpxI vwKrI zwPlI
vjf ky dyhDfrI gurU zMm clf rhy hn, Auh iksy hflq ivwc vI iswK aKvfAux dy hwkdfr
nhIN. iehnF qoN ielfvf bdiksmqI nfl iswK kOm ivwc aijhy aKOqI zyry vI pnp cuwky
hn, ijhnF dI sfrI dI sfrI afsQf kyvl gurU nfnk pfqÈfh qwk hI sImq hY. AuhnF vloN
afpxy zyiraF ivwc bfkI gurU sihbfnF dy purb mnfAux dI QF afpo afpxy sfDF sMqF dy
jnm idhfVy aqy brsIaF mnf ky iswK sMgqF nUM lgfqfr guMmrfh kIqf jFdf irhf hY.
ies anusfr qF ieh zyrydfr vI iswK hox dI pirBfÈf qy pUry nhIN Auqrdy.
iesy pirBfÈf dI aglI mwd anusfr iswK dÈmyÈ jI dy aMimRq qy inÈcf rwKdf hovy aqy
Auh hor iksy vI Drm nUM nf mMndf hovy. ies mwd anusfr qF sfry gYr aMimRqDfrI
ivakqI iswK nhIN aKvf skdy. ikAuNik gurU sfihb df vI ieh afdyÈ hY ik “pRQm rihq
Xh jfin, KMzy kI pfhul CkY”. pr ieh qwQ bVf hI zrfAuxf aqy iBaMkr hY ik sfzI
kyNdrI jQybMdI dIaF kmjorIaF aqy kOm dy gwl pey hoey kuwJ ax-sulJy ivvfdF kfrx
awj iswK KMzy bfty dI ies pfhul qoN munkr hoieaf ipaf hY. aKOqI afDuinkqf aqy
rfjsI afgUaF dI aKOqI DrminrpwKqf vI ies dy ivwc vwzI rukfvt bxI hoeI hY.
BfvyNik ÈRomxI kmytI vloN afpxy pRbMD aDIn gurduafiraF ivwc inXq idnF qy aMimRq
sMcfr kIqf jFdf hY. aqy keI aKOqI sMqF vloN vI lwKF dI igxqI ivwc aMimRq CkfAux
dy dfavy kIqy jFdy hn, pr iehnF dfaivaF dI pol iewQy hI Kuwl jFdI hY ik rojfnf
lwKF nUM aMimRq CkfAux dy bfvjUd awj 20% qoN vwD iswK aMimRqDfrI nhIN.
iswK hox dI pirBfÈf dI afKrI mwd anusfr iswK iksy hor Drm nUM nf mMndf hovy.
aKOqI DrminrpwKqf df iZMzorf ipwt ky awj ikhVf iswK isafsqdfn hY, ijsny gurU
gRMQ sfihb qoN ielfvf hor iksy aKOqI dyhDfrIaF aqy mUrqIaF, msfxF, mwTF afid nUM
mwQf nf tyikaf hovy. isqm dI gwl hY ik sfzI kyNdrI Dfrimk jQybMdI df iewk mrhUm
sfbkf pRDfn qF pitafly ivwc iewk aijhy zyry ivKy vI jf afieaf sI, ijs bfry ÈRI
akfl qKq sfihb qoN AuWQy nf jfx df inrdyÈ sI. iesy Dfrimk jQybMdI dI puÈq-pnfhI
krdI pMjfb dI pRmuwK isafsI pfrtI dy aihm afgU qF Binafry vfly, afÈUqoÈ
nUrmihlIaF, sOdy sfDF vrigaF dy crnIN pYNdy rhy hn. ies pirBfÈf anusfr qF ieh
sfry kqweI iswK nhIN aKvf skdy.
hux ÈRomxI kmytI dI muÈkl ieh hY ik Auh jykr afpxI ies pirBfÈf nUM adflq ivwc
pyÈ krdI hY qF AusnUM afp vI kithry ivwc KVy hoxf pvygf. ÈRomxI kmytI nfl sbMDq
bhuqy Dfrimk aqy isafsI afgUaF dI qF vYsy hI CuwtI ho jfvygI, ikAuNik Auh KUwd
vI iswK hox dI pirBfÈf qy pUry nhIN Auqrdy. ieho hI kfrx hY ik ÈRomxI kmytI ies
spwÈt pirBfÈf dy bfvjUd afpxf jvfb mfxXog adflq ivwc pyÈ nhIN kr skI. hux 5
dsMbr nUM jvfb dfKl krn dI afKrI icqfvnI hY, ies leI awj dI mIitMg ivwc ÈRomxI
kmytI sfhmxy duibDf vflI avwsQf bxI hoeI hY. sMBfvI qOr qy ÈRomxI kmytI vloN
iswK rihq mirafdf ivwclI Auprokq pirBfÈf nfl CyV-CfV krky koeI ivcflf rsqf kwZx
dI koiÈÈ kIqI jfvygI.
dUjI vwzI muÈkl ÈRomxI kmytI sfhmxy ieh hY ik agly sfl ÈRomxI kmytI dIaF jnrl
coxF vI hox vflIaF hn. jykr Auh iswK dI pirBfÈf nUM sKqI nfl lfgU krdI hY qF 75%
iswK iehnF coxF ivwc vot pfAux dy hwkdfr nhIN rihxgy. ijhnF kys ivhUxy aKOqI
sihjDfrIaF dIaF votF dI Et lY ky ieh isafsfdfn ies Dfrimk kmytI Aupr kfbj hn,
Aus qoN vI iehnF nUM hwQ Doxf pY skdf hY. jykr afpxI isafsI Kyz rfhIN ÈRomxI
kmytI iksy qrHF gYr aMimRqDfrIaF aqy kys ivhUxy piqq hoey iswKF nUM vI iswK smJx
leI Auprokq pirBfÈf ivwc koeI hyrfPyrI krdI hY qF AusnUM iswK Dfrimk jQybMdIaF
dy jbrdsq guwsy df iÈkfr hoxf pY skdf hY. BfvyNik ies pRikiraf leI pihlF AusnUM
iswK rihq mirafdf ivwc vI soD krnI jrUrI hovygI, pr ieh soD vI smuwcIaF iswK
jQybMdIaF aqy pMQk drdIaF nUM ivÈvfÈ ivwc lY ky hI kIqI jf skdI hY.
pRiswD iswK ivdvfn zfktr gurÈrxjIq isMG aMimRqsr ny Auprokq ivvfd bfry afpxI
rfey idMidaF ikhf ik iswK rihq mirafdf ivwc drj iswK dI pirBfÈf hr pwKoN sMpUrn
hY. ies ivwc iksy qrHF dI qbdIlI dI koiÈÈ iswK kOm df gMBIr nuksfn krygI.
iswK imÈnrI kflj dy mfsk pwqr iswK PulvfVI dy muwK sMpfdk s[ hrjIq isMG jlMDr
nfl gwl krn qy AuhnF spwÈt kIqf ik iswKI dy sMivDfn vjoN pRvfinq iswK rihq
mirafdf ivwc ieh aMikq hY ik kysF dI byadbI krn vflf, niÈaF df syvn krn vflf,
pr-nfrI /pr-purÈ df sMg krn vflf aqy muslmfnI qrIky nfl iqafr kuwTf mfs Kfx vflf
piqq hY. iehnF kurihqF krn vfly piqqF nUM iswK aKvfAux df koeI aiDkfr nhIN. iswK
dI pirBfÈf nUM cYlYNj krn vflI lVkI ny jykr iksy qrHF kysF dI byadbI kIqI hY qF
piqq hox krky spwÈt qOr qy Auh iswK aKvfAux dI hwkdfr nhIN. AuhnF ikhf ik iswK
dy Gr ivwc jnm lYx nfl koeI iswK nhIN bx jFdf, sgoN iswKI qF gurU df hukm kmf ky
hI hfsl kIqI jf skdI hY. iswK aKvfAux leI pihlF bfxI aqy bfxy ivwc sMpUrn hoxf
pvygf.
(02/12/08)
srvjIq isMG
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf, vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
afp ny iliKaf hY, “vIr myiraf mYN koeI vwKrI rfey nhIN rwKdf”
afp vlo eynF ilKx nfl ieh spwÈt nhI hoieaf ik ikwQy qusI vwKrI rfey nhI rwKdy?
ies nMU ivsQfr nfl ilKx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI.
afdr sihq
srvjIq isMG
(01/12/08)
bicwqr nftk drbfr bfry iek KLbr
aKOqI dsm gRMQ
sMbMDI ÈMikaF dy invfrx leI bicwqr nftk drbfr df afXojn hoieaf.
ÌrIdfbfd `c hfËr
hox dy bfvjUd igafnI gurbcn isMG jI bicwqr nftk drbfr `c Èfml nhIN hoey.
ÌrIdfbfd, ñ dsMbr úø (bIbI sqnfm kOr, bIbI jspRIq kOr) aKOqI dsm
gRMQ (bicwqr nftk dy ivvfd dy hwl leI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuWcqf nUM smrpwq
jwQybMdI dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) vIcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl vwloN ÌrIdfbfd ivKy bIqIN
dupihr bfad, bicwqr nftk drbfr df afXojn kIqf igaf ijhVf ik dyr rfq pYx qwk
cilaf. sRI akfl qÉq sfihb dy muwK syvfdfr igafnI gurbcn isMG nUM aKbfr `c
ieÈiqhfr dy ky aqy ivÈyÈ qOr `qy Pon kr ky bicwqr nftk drbfr ivwc hfËrI Br ky
sMgqF dy ÈMikaF dy invfrx krn leI ikhf igaf pr swdf dyx dy bfvjUd Auh bicwqr
nftk drbfr `c sMgqF dy rUbrU hox leI nhIN puwjy jdik Auh ÌrIdfbfd Èihr `c hI
hfËr sn. ies drbfr `c hfËr sMgqF nUM sMboDn krdy hoey iswK ivdvfn s[ dlbIr isMG
idwlI ny ikhf ik kuwJ lok gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df ÈrIk pYdf kr ky guriswKF nUM
gurU gRMQ sfihb nfloN qoVnf cfhuMdy hn. AunHF ikhf ik ijs nUM dsm gRMQ df nfm
idwqf jf irhf hY. ies df muwZlf nfm bicwqr nftk hY aqy ieh bRfhmxI gRMQF `qy
afDfirq hY. AunHF ikhf ik bicwqr nftk gRMQ ivwc anykF pRsMgF dy aÉIr `qy ilKy
smfpqI sMkyq “ieiq sRI bicqR nftk gRMQy mfrkMzy purfxy[ [” aqy ieiq ÈRI bicqR
nftk gRMQy dsm skMD purfxy iswD krdy hn ik ieh bicwqr nftk gRMQ mfrkMzy purfx,
sRI md Bfgvq purfx, iÈv purfx aqy dyvI durgf dy vfm-mfrgI pujfrIaF df gRMQ hY.
AunHF ikhf ik ieh gRMQ BMg pIx vfly, jfdU-toxy krx vfly qFqirkF df gRMQ qF ËrUr
ho skdf hY pr guriswKF df nhIN. ipRMsIpl surjIq isMG idwlI ny ikhf ik iswK gurU
goibMd isMG jI dy nfm `qy ËËbfqI qOr `qy juVy hoey hn. iesy leI dsm gRMQIey
AunHF df nfm vrq ky iswKF nUM gumrfh kr rhy hn. AuhnF ikhf ik jd asIN ardfs krdy
hF ik dsF pfqÈfhIaF dI jfgdI joq sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df iDafn Dr ky bolo jI
vfihgurU qF kI dsvyN gurU dI bfxI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI qoN pfsy rih jFdI hY. AunHF
ikhf ik asl ivwc iswKF dy ds gurU kihxf hI Êlq hY aqy ieh kihxf cfhIdf hY ik
gurU ieko iewk Èbd hY aqy ds jfmy hn ijMnHF rfhIN Èbd gurU df isDFq lokfeI qk
psiraf. ipR[ surjIq isMG ny ikhf ik rfmrfie nUM iewk quk bdlx Éfqr gurU Gr qoN
hmyÈF leI bydÉl kr idwqf igaf sI pr awj qF ieQy gurU gRMQ sfihb dy brfbr ñôòø
pyjF df aKOqI gRMQ pRkfÈ kr rhy hn qy iPr vI afpxy afp nUM iswK sfibq krI jFdy
hn. “dsm gRMQ df ilKfrI kOx?” pusqk dy lyKk s[ jsivMdr isMG zubeI ny ikhf ik
koeI vI kMm bgYr iksy pYmfny qoN shI ZMg nfl nhIN kIqf jf skdf pr hYrfnI dI gwl
hY ik iswK kOm ivwc iksy pYmfny dI vrqoN hI nhIN kIqI jFdI. AunHF ikhf ik sfzy
pfs gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy rUp ivwc pRmfxIk pYmfnf hY pr aPsos Aus dI vrqoN hI
nhIN huMdI. AunHF ikhf ik jy asIN hux aKOqI dsm gRMQ df mslf nf hwl kr sky qF
afAux vflIaF pIVIaF ny sfnUM muafP nhIN krxf. gurmiq pRcfr jwQf idwlI dy muwK
syvfdfr BfeI bldyv isMG ny ikhf ik iswK df inqnym gurU gRMQ sfihb `c drË hY ijs
qoN roÈnI lYx dI loV hY. AuhnF ikhf ik sfnUM iqMn jF pMj bfxIaF qwk sImq nhIN
rihxf cfhIdf sgoN smuwcy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df lVIvfr sihj pfT ËfrI rKxf cfhIdf
hY. ivcfr mMc dy knvInr s[ Aupkfr isMG ny ikhf ik awj df ieh bicwqr nftk drbfr
ieiqhfsk ho inbiVaf hY ijs ivwc sMgqF dy mnF ivwc pYdf hoey hr svfl df AuhnF dI
qswlI muqfbk jvfb idwqf igaf. AunHF ikhf ik aijhy drbfr lfAuxy byÈk sfzy eyjMzy
`qy nhIN sn pr dsm gRMQIaf ny sfzI mËbUrI bxf ky ËbrdsqI sfzI JolI ivwc gMd pf
idwqf hY ies leI sfnUM AunHF vwloN idwqf igaf cYlMj prvfn hY. AuhnF ikhf ik cMgf
huMdf ik igafnI gurbcn isMG sfzy’ c Èfml huMdy pr aPsos swdf idwqy jfx dy bfvjUd
vI Auh nhIN afey. AunHF ikhf ik awgy qoN ijMnI vfr vI igafnI gurbcn isMG
PrIdfbfd afAuxgy Ausy idn aijhy drbfr df afXojn kr ky AuhnF nUM Èfml hox df swdf
idwqf jfvygf. ies mOky “dsm gRMQ dI ivcfr” pusqk dy ilKfrI zf[ gurmuK isMG aqy
AunHF dI spuwqrI bIbI arivMdr kor (XU[ aYs[ ey[) ny vI afpxy kImqI ivcfr mMc dy
pRbMDkF nfl sFJy kIqy. styj skwqr dI syvf mMc dy koafrzInytr s[ suirMdr isMG ny
bfKUbI inBfeI.
(01/12/08)
pRym isMG brnbI
avfjL (vrnmflf)
AuWT mn AUNiDaf qUM AuWdm Aulfs kr
awj-kwlH krdy dI aED ibhfnIaF
eyho qyrI 'bfr' nhIN afAuxI bfr bfr
suBf ihrdy icqfr rwb krU imhrbfnIaF
huwjqF dy lfvyN Zyr bx ky hrfm-Kor
krnIaF Cwz hr dm mn-mfnIaF
KyzF Kyzdy dI iewk idn muwk jfxI Kyz
gujLir vjUd ivwcoN ijMd AuWz jfxI aF
GV GV sbk isKFvdf hYN dUijaF nUM
iÕafn dy pujfrIaf E vwizaf iDafnIaF
cwl gey anyk suwK Bogdy pdfrQF dy
Cwz gey kroV nfhIN afny nFh doafnIaF
jfx-buwJ jwg nUM idKFvdYN ilbfs bwgy
JUT mUT jfxy rwb jfxdY sLYqfnIaF
Öqn iqafg, gfzI-rfh qoN pfsy jfvxy df
tyZI qor qurny ‘c hfnIaF hI hfnIaF
iTMm iTMm cwlxI sI cfl qUM inrflI, aYvyN
zg mg zolyN qfhIN hox prysLfnIaF
ZUMZ nF’ ZMZol, rwb vwsdf hY kol
xf kr nIvINaF qUM dyhlIaF, bygfnIaF
iqafg dyh gumfn, sB iewko ny smfn
QuwkI jfvyN moiZaF ‘qoN jfq-aiBmfnIaF
dIn qUM ivsfr nFh, ijwqI Kyz hfr nf
Drm-aqIqf kfhnUM, kryN by-eImfnIaF
inwq inwq nym sy inicMq-icwq bYTxf sI
pUjnIk pUjxf sI Boilaf pRfxIaF
PokVy krm qF GuMmfAuxgy cOrfsIaF ‘c
ibprn dI rIiq nfly mVHIaF msfxIaF
Bvjl ‘coN pfr kwZy gurU df jhfjL, hor
mwD ivwc zuwb jfx byVIaF drimafnIaF
Xog nf Xukiq cqurfeI koeI kMm afAuxI
rwK isr qlI ‘qy qUM kr kurbfnIaF
lok qy pRlok ivwc muwK Aujlfvy qyrf
vfihgurU jp, pYx mwQy qy insLfnIaF
VfV nUM mukfvnf ey ‘pRym’-pd pfvnf ey
sRI gurU gRMQ ivwc gwlF eyh ibafnIaF
(01/12/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf
Respected Dr. Gurmukh Singh jee, New Delhi,
Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh
I am really grateful to you for writing this Book: Dasam Granth Dee Vichar
(Second Edition March 2008). The entire Bachiter Natak including connecting
fairy fables available in 1428 pages have been condensed into 200 pages by
highlighting the gist of all Chapters.
After reading your Book, it is evident that for the last (70) years, SGPC and
its Head Ministers have been befooling the Sikh Nation now spread all over the
world. Hence, Sikh Reht Maryada (1945) needs to be modified so as to delete all
those entries, which do not conform to Gurbaani contained in the Guru Granth
Sahib. Since it is unlikely under the corrupt regime of SAD/SGPC, Delhi Sikh
Gurdwaras Management Committee, which does not fall within the jurisdiction of
The Sikh Gurdwaras Act 1925/SGPC, may wish to adopt the revised version of SRM.
I understand, some Sikh Scholars have already attempted but they themselves in
their individual capacity can't publish for mass free circulation.
Kindly assist me to understand -
At page 42,
(1) When Pothi Sahib was placed open on 16 August 1604 at Darbaar Sahib (not
Harmandir Sahib, which seems to be popularized by Mahants subsequently);
(2) I have never read when Guru Nanak Sahib administered Charan Pahul to Bhai
Lehna, Baba Amardas or subsequent Gurus upto Guru Gobind Rai by Guru Tegh
Bahadur. Bhai Gurdas may have given impression to then Hindu ritual. We can say
Guru Gobind Singh Sahib introduced Khanday Dee Pahul w.e.f. 30 March 1699 at
Anandpur Sahib, (also refer to page 44);
(3) At page 44, Shabd Guru has been Guru from the beginning as stated in Sidh
Gosett by Guru Nanak Sahib though it was then communicated in person by Gurus
Sahibaan. Hence, Guru Granth Sahib is not the Eleventh Guru; it needs
modification;
(4) At pages 48/76 and subsequently, "Mool Manter" is another brahminical
approach. The Commencing Verse should not be considered as mool-manter. Pehla
Shabd, Mudhla/Arambhik Shabd or alike could be considered;
(5) At pages 53/73/86/102 etc., reference to 84 Lakh joones according to Karmas
also do not fit appropriately, as such is thinking of Hindus. No doubt, there
are countless species but it does not mean one goes in circle one by one and
then attains birth as a human being. We should avoid such mixture in Sikh
Thought;
(6) some typing errors of Lavan, Aunkar, etc. may be corrected by second
reading. At 3-4 places Dev may be deleted from the name of Guru Nanak Sahib.
Rest is excellent.
When you undertake next edition, we will love to have about (50 or 100) copies
for free distribution which could be sent by small parcels by sea/surface mail
each weighing less than 5 Kgs costing about Rs. 300 per parcel. Please advise us
costing when conveinent.
May Akaal Purkh bless you Charhdi Kalaa,
On Behalf of Sikh Khalsa Mission Incorporated (Australia),
Gurmit Singh, Public Officer
(01/12/08)
drsLn isMG
Respected Sikh Sangat
w.jee,ka.kha.
w.jee.kee.fahte.
I beg of you Sikh people please read the very first Bani of GGS again and again
with help from late Dr. Sahib Singh D. Lit’s translation of GGS.
We will get all the answers about
Atma---Param-atma---Hukam—Nadar----lekha—Bhag----Avagavan.
I fully agree with Jabir Singh jee from Calgary Canada. Let me say something
here, all of us are on certain level of understanding of GGS and we are telling
others that they are ignorant about GGS’s massage only me is certified in
understanding of GGS and that is where the ego driven, self-centredness is
playing games with us .
To understand the whole picture it can take all life or may be not, no body can
give us the pill to swallow to make us Gurmukh we have to suffer the pains of
life and keep on living, keep on discovering the purpose of life the remedy is
only in GGS. Who ever has reached the level of Gurmukh and that human will not
be angry with anybody that person will answer our inquiry gently with love.
Brotherly yours,
With love.
Darshan Singh
(30/11/08)
jrnYl isMG (afstRylIaf)
Dear Jasbir Singh Ji
It is fine with with me.
However I would like to thank
you for this discussion. It has further strengthened my belief that Gurbani
repudiates the concept of reincarnation or deed dependent births. There is a
thread of logic that runs through every single page of GGS. If we lose sight of
this thread, we are likely to misinterpret Gurbani. For me Gurbani is logical to
the core. This logic has been adroitly constructed by demolishing all the age
old illogical beliefs about God.
Our Gurus rejected the concept
of reincarnation, the moment they said that human life is rare, something that
you don’t get time and again. The deed dependent births or theory of
reincarnation does not fit into this logic as it makes human life something
cheaply available and something that is nor rare at all. In fact the theory of
reincarnation makes human life a sort of penalty. Guru rejected the theory of
Karmas by putting forth an extremely logical question that how it happened for
the first time. Karmas can not precede human life. Now if accept these facts,
our interpretation of verses that refer to reincarnation will change. Guru is
simply talking in the idiom of his audience to hamper home his point of view.
It is very easy to pick up
couple of lines from here and there (computer can do it in a couple of minutes),
but the real task is interpret them in such a way that it fits well into the
overall logic of GGS.
Regards
Jarnail Singh
Sydney Australia
(30/11/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
iswK mfrg dy
pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI
kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.
pfTk jI! ijs qrHF ik mYN pihlF
iliKaf sI ik afvfgAux bfry ivcfr crcf, ivcfr nf ho ky bihs ijafdf ho rhI hY ies
leI ies ivÈy qy ivcfr awgy qornIN mYN bMd kr idwqI sI. pr ijsqrHF ik gurcrn isMG
ijAuxvflf ny myry svflF df jvfb idwqy ibnF AuhI afqmf vflf ivÈf Pyr jfrI rwiKaf
hY. mYN smJdf hF ik ieh ivÈf hjy rokx/bMd krn df smF nhIN hY. so mYN pfTkF pfsoN
ivcfr nUM awgy qorn dI iejfjq cfhuMdf hF. DMnvfd.
gurcrn isMG jI! ijsqrHF ik
qusIN iliKaf sI ik gurbfxI ivwc afey “agY, afgY” Èbd dy arQ iesy jnm ivwc afAux
vfly smy leI krn nfl myry sfry 10-12 svflF dy jvfb afpy hI iml jfxgy. pr aYsf
hoieaf nhIN. mYnUM myry iksy iewk vI svfl df jvfb nhIN imilaf. kI AunHF svflF dy
jvfb smJfAux dI imhrbfnI krogy?
quhzy 12-11-08 aqy 28-11-08
vfly pwqrF qoN iewk do svfl hor sfmHxy afey hn, AunHF bfry bfad ivwc gwl kIqI
jfvygI. DMnvfd.
jrnYl isMG jI!
qusIN pihlF vflf hI svfl dubfrf
kIqf hY aqy iliKaf hY: “[ [ Now if the person
is not born as per Karma for the first time , then the obvious conclusion is
that it started from the second generation”[
The Question is why God would
start this system at all when he did not need it in the first place. Is there
any quote in Gurbani that tells us the system of dependent birth as punishment
or reward started at the time of second
generation of species?”
gurU sfihb kihMdy hn sMsfr rcnf
qoN pihlF kuwJ vI nhIN sI. sB kuwJ suMn (ÈunX, ËIro) qoN hI pRBU ny afpxy afp
qoN bxfieaf.
“arbd nrbd DuMDUkfrf] Drix n
ggnf hukmu apfrf] [ [ nrku surgu nhIN jMmx mrxf nf ko afie jfiedf] … nfir n
purKu nhI jfiq n jnmf nf ko duKu
suKu pfiedf] 4] [ [
krm Drm nhI
mfieaf mfKI] jfiq jnmu nhI dIsY afKI] …[
jf iqsu Bfxf
qf jgq Aupfieaf] bfJu klf afzfxu
rhfieaf] bRhmf ibsnu mhysu Aupfey
mfieaf mohu vDfiedf] 14]
ivrly kAu guir sbdu suxfieaf] kir
kir dyKY hukmu sbfieaf] …qf kf aMqu n jfxY koeI]
pUry gur qy soJI hoeI…[]”
(pMnf- 1035). jgq rcnf qoN pihlF byaMq smf Gup
hnyry dI hflq sI. nf DrqI aqy nf hI afkfÈ sI aqy nf hI Aus df hukm vrq irhf sI.
…nf koeI iesqRI sI nf mrd sI nf koeI jfq pfq sI
nf koeI duK suK Bogx vflf jIv hI sI.
nf Drm sI nf krm nf imwTI mfieaf sI. …
jdoN
Aus pRBU nUM cMgf lwgf
qF Aus nyN jgq pYdf kr idwqf …[ [ qdoN Aus ny mfieaf df moh vI vDf idwqf. …
ijs iksy ivrly bMdy nUM gurU ny AupdyÈ
suxfieaf (Aus nUM smJ af geI ik) prmfqmf jgq pYdf krky afp hI sMBfl kr irhf hY.
pUry gurU qoN ieh smJ pYNdI hY ik koeI vI jIv prmfqmf dI qfkq df aMq nhIN pf
skdf.
so Èbd anusfr sMsfr rcnf qoN
pihlF kuwJ vI nhIN sI sB kuwJ sMsfr rcnf hox qoN mÊroN hoNd ivwc afieaf.
iek hor Èbd/solhy ivwc gurU
sfihb kihMdy hn:
“suMn klf aprMpir DfrI] afip
inrflmu apr apfrI]
afpy kudriq kir kir dyKY suMnhu
suMnu Aupfiedf] 1] pAuxu pfxI suMnY qy sfjy] isRsit Aupfie
kfieaf gV rfjy]
agn pfxI jIAu
joiq qumfrI suMnY klf rhfiedf]
dyv dfnv gx gMDrb sfjy
siB iliKaf krm kmfiedf]
… pMc qqu
suMnhu prgfsf]
dyh smjogI krm aiBafsf] burf
Blf Duir
msqik lIKy pfp puMnu bIjfiedf]
14]” (pMnf-1037).
Aus prmfqmf ny afpxI qfkq afp
hI bxfeI hoeI hY. aqy afpxI kudrq rc ky vyKdf hY. Ausy ny isRÈtI pYdf kIqI hY.
awg pfxI afid qwqF dy srIr aqy AunHF ivwc jIvfqmf Ausy
dI joq hY. sB jIv DuroN pRBU dy hukm ivwwc
hI ilKy sMskfrF anusfr krm kmf rhy hn.
pMj qwqF qoN bixaf ieh mnuwKI srIr inrol pRBU dy afpxy afp qoN hI prgt hoieaf.
ies srIr dy sMjog krky jIv krmF
ivwc ruJ pYNdf hY (jdoN jIv aqy srIr
df sMjog hoieaf EdoN qoN krmF ivwc ruJ igaf). pRBU dy hukm
anusfr hI jIv dy kIqy cMgy mMdy krmF dy sMskfr ilKy jFdy hn.
hor dyKo suKmnI sfihb
astpdI-21: “jb akfr iehu kCu n idRstyqf] pfp puMn qb kh qy hoqf] … afpnu Kylu
afip vrqIjf] nfnk krxYhfr n dUjf]” (svfl- jdoN jgq qy koeI jIv hI nhIN sI
qdoN pfp puMn iks (jIv) qoN ho skdf sI? jvfb- pRBU ny ieh
Kyz bxfeI hY Aus qoN ibnf ies Kyz nUM bnfx vflf hor koeI nhIN).
“jb hovq pRB kyvl DnI] qb
bMD mukiq khu iks kAu gnI] …
afpn cilq
afip krnYhfr] nfnk Tfkur agm apfr]”
(svfl- jdoN pRBU isrP afp hI sI qdoN dwso, iks nUM bMDn ivwc Pisaf hoieaf qy iks
nUM mukq khIey? jvfb- akfl purK agm aqy byaMq hY,
afpxy qmfÈy
afp hI krn vflf hY).
“jb aibgq agocr pRB eykf] qb
icqR gupq iksu pUCq lyKf]
jb nfQ inrMjn agocr agfDy] qb
kAun CutY kAun bMDn bfDy] … afpn
afp afp hI acrjf] nfnk afpn rUp afp hI Auprjf]”
(svfl- jdoN aidRÈt pRBU afp hI sI qdoN icqwrgupq
iks qoN lyKf puwC skdf sI. jdoN mflk pRBU afp hI sI qdoN kOx mfieaf dy bMDnF qoN
mukq aqy kOx bMDnF ivwc Psy hoey sn? jvfb- pRBU afpxy vrgf afp hI hY, afpxf akfr
Aus nyN afp hI pYdf kIqf hY).
ies astpdI dy aKIr ivwc pRo:
sfihb isMG ny jo not iliKaf hY Auh ies pRkfr hY: “ies astpdI ivwc ies iKafl df
KMzx kIqf igaf hY ik jgq dI rcnf jIvF dy krmF krky
hoeI. gurU afÈy anusfr isrP pRmfqmf hI anfdI hY. jdoN hjy jgq hY hI nhIN sI kyvl
akfl purK hI sI qdoN nf koeI jIv sn nf hI mfieaf sI. qdoN krmF df BI aBfv sI
pRmfqmf ny afp hI ieh Kyz rcI.
krmF df, nrk surg, df pfp puMn df islislf qdoN ÈurU
hoieaf, jdoN jgq hoNd ivwc af hI igaf” – pRo: sfihb isMG.
iek hor idRÈtFq: “jb kCu n
sIE qb ikaf krqf kvn krm kir afieaf] apnf Kylu afip
kir dyKY Tfkur rcn rcfieaf]”
(pMnf-748). (svfl: jdoN kuwJ vI nhIN sI nf koeI krm aqy nf hI koeI krm krn vflf
Aus vkq jIv ikhVy krmF krky dunIaF qy afieaf? jvfb- ieh
jgq rcnf Aus dI Kyz hY
Aus dI mrËI aqy hukm nfl ieh sMsfr rcnf hoeI. arQfq Aus dI mrËI nfl jIv
jgq qy afieaf iksy kIqy krmF krky nhIN”.
jrnYl isMG jI! jIv krmF df bwJf
sMsfr qy nhIN afieaf lyikn jdoN sMsfr rcnf hoeI AudoN qoN krmF df islislf ÈurU
hoieaf aqy jIv krmF df bwJf afvfgAux dy gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY jF gurmuK bxky
afvfgAux qoN Cutkfrf pf lYNdf hY. ies sMbMDI mYN gurbfxI ivwcoN hvfly pyÈ kIqy
hn. jy hjy vI ies sMbMDI quhfzf koeI svfl hovy qF pihlF qusIN dwsxf ik Aupr
idwqy gurbfxI hvfilaF qoN quhfnUM kI snyhf imldf hY Pyr afpxf koeI svfl rwKxf jI
aqy afpxy svfl dy nfl gurbfxI hvflf/hvfly jrUr dyxy jI ijs qoN iswD hovy
ik mYN ijsqrHF kih irhf hF gurbfxI AusqrHF nhIN blik ijsqrHF qusIN kihMdy ho Aus
qrHF df sunyhf dy rhI hY.
quhfzf dUjf svfl hY ik: “Secondly
if God created all the species at the same time for the first generation, then
God discriminated some by putting them into lesser species and….”
jrnYl isMG jI! jIv dy kIqy cMgy
mfVy krmF anusfr pRBU AunHF nUM cMgIaF mMdIaF jUnF ivwc pfAuNdf hY ies nUM qusIN
pwKpfq (discrimination)
mMndy ho aqy ibnf iksy kfrx dy jIvF nUM cMgIaF
mMdIaF jUnF ivwc pf idMdf hY ies nUM qusIN
discriminatiuon nhIN mMndy.
ieh jgq rcnf Aus dI
Kyz hY.
ijsqrHF cAupV dI Kyz ivwc, Kyz ÈurU krn vyly
sfrIaF gItIaF iewk brfbr hI huMdIaF hn. pr jdoN Kyz ÈurU ho jFdI hY qF keI
gItIaF pugdIaF jFdIaF hn ijnHF nUM iKzfrI (pRBU) afpxy Kjfny ivwc pf lYNdf hY
aqy keI gItIaF Ausy cAupV qy hI gyVy kZHdIaF rihMdIaF hn. ijhVIaF gItIaF nhIN
pugdIaF AunHF nfl iKzfrI koeI discrimination
nhIN krdf blik ieh Kyz dy asUlF df ihwsf
hY. iesy qrHF afvfgAux Aus dI Kyz hY. keI jIv afvfgAux qoN mukq ho jFdy hn aqy
keI afvfgAux dy gyV ivwc pey rihMdy hn. ieh Aus dI Kyz dy asUlF df ihwsf hY. ijs
nUM gurbfxI ivwc hukm ikhf igaf hY.
qIjy svfl dy sMbMD ivwc myry
Aupr idwqy gurbfxI hvfilaF qoN quhfnUM kI lwgdf hY pRBU ny sfry jIv iewko vfrIN
pYdf kIqy jF nIvyN qoN Aucy, jF Aucy qoN nIvyN drjy qoN ies bfry quhfnUM kI
lwgdf hY dwsxf?
awgy qusIN iliKaf hY “…Regarding
the termination and restart of cycle of
birth and death. …and you Are denying
this now.” ies sMbMD ivwc qusIN AudfhrxF dy
ky myry koloN kuwJ svfl puwCy hn.
jrnYl isMG jI! pqf nhIN qusIN
myrI iks ilKq bfry gwl kr rhy ho. imhrbfnI krky myrIaF ilKIaF pMgqIaF hvfly vjoN
ilK ky Byjxy jI. qF hI pqf lwg skygf ik qusIN myrI iks ilKq bfry gwl kr rhy ho.
Èfied qusIN do gwlF nUM afps ivwc imlf rhy ho. 1- mYN sMsfr psfrf Kqm krky Pyr
bnfAux dI gwl kIqI sI, aqy 2-gurmuK bMdf afvfgAux qoN Cut jFdf hY, pr mnmuK bMdy
nUM afvfgAux df gyV ipaf rihMdf hY. ieh do vwK vwK glF hn. ienHF ivcfrF nfl mYN
gurbfxI hvfly vI ilK Byjy hn so dubfrf svfl krn ligaF AunHF gurbfxI hvfilaF bfry
vI afpxy ivcfr Byjxy jI.
qusIN iliKaf hY ik ardfs bfry
ijhVIaF AudfhrxF mYN pyÈ kIqIaF hn AunHF nfl quhfnUM koeI mqByd nhIN pr ardfs dy
isDFq bfry qusIN myry nfl sihmq nhIN. pr quhfzy muqfbk ardfs krm isDFq df KMzx
krdI hY.
jrnYl isMG jI! ijs qrHF ik mYN
pihlF vI ilK cuwkf hF ik “gurmq anusfr krm isDFq aDUrf hY. gurU sfihbF
nyN iewk nvF aqy nvyklf isDFq idwqf, Auh hY krm+ hukm isDFq. sMsfr ivwc
jo kuwJ vI ho irhf hY Aus dy hukm ivwc ho irhf hY. Aus hukm ivwc Aus dI rËf,
imhr, bKiÈÈ, ndr-krm, vI Èfml hn. jIv afpxy krmF anusfr duwK- suwK qF
Bogdf hY, pr kIqy krmF anusfr prmfqmf ijho ijhy lyK, ijs qrHHF df hukm ilKky
Byjdf hY jIv Ausy qrHF ivcrdf hY. bMdy dy kIqy krmF anusfr pRBU lyK ilKdf hY aqy
Aus dy hukm ivwc afvfgAux dy gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY. siqgurU dI bKiÈÈ
nfl bMdf jnm mrn dy gyV coN Cuwt jFdf hY. aqy siqgurU qoN bymuK ho ky jnm mrn dy
gyV ivwc ipaf rihMdf hY. gurmq df iewk hor pihlU hY ‘ardfs’. bMdf jy inmfxf ho
ky Aus awgy ardfs kry qF Auh afvfgAux dy gyV qoN Cut jFdf hY. gurmuK bMdf hr
vyly pRBU awgy ardfs krdf hY “kr joiV nfnk dfnu mfgY jnm mrn
invfir lyhu]”
aqy “ieku duKu
rfmrfie kfto myrf] agin dhY aru griB bsyrf]”
jrnYl isMG jI! (iewklf) krm
isDFq kMpIAUtr dy smfn hY. Aus ivwc jo kuwJ PIz krogy Aus dy aDfr qy Ausy qrHF
df irËlt pfvogy. pr gurmq iekwly krm isDFq nUM nhIN mMndI. ies ivwc pRBU dI
rËf vI Èfml hY. ies sMbMDI Aupr idwqI ilKq sfrI dubfrf ies leI pyÈ kr idwqI
hY qF ik qusIN ieh nf kho ik pihlF mYN krm isDFq df hfmI ho ky hux mYN mukr irhf
hF. qusIN krm isDFq qy hI atk gey ho jdik mYN pihlF hI ilK cuwkf hF ik
gurmq anusfr krm isDFq aDUrf hY. gurmq anusfr krm isDFq dy nfl Aus dI rËf,
imhr, bKiÈÈ, ndr-krm, ardfs vI Èfml hn. Xfd rhy ik gurmq “krm isDFq”
df KMzx nhIN krdI pr gurmq anusfr iewklf krm isDFq “aDUrf hY”.
not: krm+hukm isDFq bfry afpxI Aupr idwqI ivcfr sMbMDI afpxy ipCly pwqrF ivwc
mYN gurbfxI dy hvfly vI dy cuwkf hF. ardfs, bKiÈÈ afid bfry vI mYN gurbfxI
ivwcoN hvfly dy cwkf hF. jy quhfzf hjy vI koeI pRÈn hovy qF myry vwloN pyÈ
gurbfxI dy hvfilaF bfry vI afpxy ivcfr nfl Byjxy aqy afpxy svfl/svflF dy nfl
gurbfxI dy hvfly vI pyÈ krny qF ik ies ivÈy qy vDyry zUMGI ivcfr kIqI jf sky.
ijhVf qusIN iliKaf hY ik ardfs, krm isDFq df KMzx krdI hY. AuprlI sfrI ivcfr nUM
muK rwK ky dwso ik kI ardfs krm+hukm isDFq df vI KMzx krdI hY?
qusIN iliKaf hY: “I
don’t have any problem with your interpretation of prayer in this
context.(Though we may not agree with each other on the concept of prayer in
Sikhism).
jrnYl isMG jI! ardfs bfry mYN
afpxy ivcfr gurbfxI dy aDfr qy pyÈ kIqy sI. quhfnUM ienHF ivcfrF nfl koeI mq Byd
nhIN. pr nfl hI qusIN iliKaf hY ik quhfnUM iswKI ivwc ardfs df sMklp mnjUr nhIN.
ies df qF iswDf mqlb iehI inkldf hY ik quhfnUM gurmq df ieh (ardfs vflf) pihlU
mnjUr nhIN. ies bfry afpxy ivcfr KolH ky ilKxy jI.
qusIN iliKaf hY: “
S. JasbIr Singh ji, you are saying that my answer to
your questions are out of context…. You asked if there is a Quote in Gurbani
that says that humans are born again and again.”
jrnYl isMG jI! mYN jo svfl
iliKaf sI dubfrf pyÈ kr irhf hF.
“kI gurbfxI ivwcoN koeI iewk vI
quk pyÈ kIqI jf skdI hY ijs ivwc sfP iliKaf hovy ik koeI gurmuK hovy jF mnmuK
mrn ipwCoN
iksy df
koeI jnm
nhIN huMdf?”
myrf svfl sI ik koeI gurmuK
hovy jF mnmuK mrn ipwCoN iksy df
muV jnm huMdf hY jF nhIN.
aqy qusIN jvfb dy rhy ho ik ieh mnuKf jnm
dulMB hY (aOKf imilaf hY). mYN ies jnm qoN agly jnm bfry gwl
kr irhf hF jo ik cwl irhf muwK ivÈf hY aqy qusIN ieh jnm imlx bfry gwl kr
rhy ho. myry svfl aqy afpxy jvfb qy dubfrf Êor kro kI quhfzf jvfb svfl dy muqfbk
hY?
dUjy svfl ivwc mYN puiCaf sI ik
koeI ivakqI njfieË qrIky nfl dOlq iekwTI krky aYÈ dI ijMdgI bsr krky dunIaF qoN
clf jFdf hY, Aus bfry gurbfxI df kI Purmfn hY? ijs
bfry sMkyq vjoN mYN gurbfxI df hvflf vI do vfrIN pyÈ kr cwkf hF. jo ies qrHF hY:
“afpInHy Bog Boig kY hoie BsmiV BAur isDfieaf] vzf hoaf dunIdfr gil sMglu Giq
clfieaf] agY krxI kIriq vfcIaY bih lyKf kir smJfieaf] QfAu n hovI pAudIeI huix
suixaY ikaf rUafieaf] mn aMDy jnmu gvfieaf]”. ies slok bfry vI afpxy ivcfr
Byjxy jI.
qIjy svfl ivwc mYN puiCaf sI ik
koeI jIv (iensfn jF hor jIv jMq afid)
aYsy QF jnm lYNdy hn ik sfrI Aumr duK Bogdy hn aqy keI jIv aYsy QF jnm lYNdy
hn ik zwkf dUhrf nhIN krdy pr sfrI Aumr suK dI ijMdÊI bsr krdy hn. aYsf ikAuN?
ienHF svflF dy jvfb ivwc qusIN
suK duK nfpx df pYmfnf dws rhy ho aqy pRBU dI nËr ivwc Auh bMdf kI hY ieh dws
rhy ho.
jrnYl isMG jI! ieh qF qusIN vI
mMndy ho aqy mYN vI ik sB kuwJ pRBU dy hukm ivwc ho irhf hY. ies df mqlb pRfxI
nUM duK suK vI prmfqmf dy hukm ivwc hI imldf hY. gurbfxI vI kihMdI hY:
“hukmI Auqmu nIcu hukmI
iliK duK suK pfeIaih]”
pRBU dy ilKy (hukm) anusfr pRfxI duK
suK Bogdf hY. dwsxf ik pRBU df hukm iksy ihsfb ikqfb nfl huMdf hY jF by ihsfbf
hI iksy nUM duK iksy nUM suK dyeI jFdf hY?
gurU sfihb kihMdy hn:
“suKu duKu purb jnm ky
kIey] so jfxY ijin dfqY dIey]
iks kAu dosu dyih qU pRfxI shu
apxf
kIaf krfrf
hy]” ieQy gurU sfihb kihMdy hn hy
pRfxI! ipCly jnmF dy kIqy (krmF) anusfr duK suK shfr. pRBU nUM jF iksy hor nUM
doÈ nf dyh. ies gwl qy cfnxf pfAuxf jI ik suK duK kIqy krmF dy aDfr qy huMdy hn
jF ibnf iksy ihsfb dy, (quhfzy lÌËF ivwc) kI prmfqmf ‘Discrimination’
krdf hY?
qIjy svfl dy sMbMD ivwc mYN
gugbfxI df Èbd pyÈ kr irhf hF jo ik mYN agy vI keI vfrIN pyÈ kr cuwkf hF “Audm
krih anyk hir nfm n gfvhI] Brmih join asMK mir jnmih afNvhI] psU pMKI sYl
qrvr gxq kCU n afvey] bIj bovis Bog Bogih kIaf afpxf pfvey]
rqn jnmu hfrMq jUaY pRBU afip n BfvhI] ibnvMiq nfnk Brmih Brmfey iKnu eyk
itkxu n pfvhI]” (pMnf-705). ies slok dy arQ krky smJfxy jI.
jrnYl isMG jI! ies sfrI ivcfr
ivwc hux vI aqy pihlF vI jo gurbfxI hvfly mYN idwqy hn afpxy ivcfrF nfl AunHF dy
arQ krky jrUr Byjxy aqy afpxy ivcfrF/svflF nfl gurbfxI hvfly jrUr dyxy jI nhIN
qF ivcfr awgy qorn ivwc muÈikl hovygI. DMnvfd.
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gurU
goibMd isMG jI nUM dust dmn df avqfr dws ky sfnUM bRfhmx bxfieaf jf irhf hY:
pRo[ drÈn isMG
mhMq
prmjIq isMG ny mMinaf ik gurbfxI nUM nf smJx kr ky asIN hux qk Buwly rhy hF
biTMzf, óú nvMbr (ikrpfl isMG)
gurU goibMd isMG jI nUM dÈt dmn df avqfr dws ky sfnUM bRfhmx bxfieaf jf irhf hY
ienHF ÈbdF df pRgtfvf sRI akfl qÉq sfihb dy sfbkf muwK syvfdfr pRoPYsr drÈn isMG
ny rohqk dy gurduafrf bMglf sfihb ivKy gurU qyg bhfdr sfihb jI dI ÈhIdI gurpurb
dy sMbMD ivwc bIqI rfq kIrqn krdy hoey kIqf. ies kIrqn smfgm df iswDf pRsfrx
ÈrDf aYm[ aYc[ -ñ cYnl qoN ho irhf sI. kIrqn krdy hoey pRo[ drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik
iswKF dI bhuigxqI gurU goibMd isMG jI nUM dust dmn df avqfr mMn ky mfx mihsUs
krdI hY pr dust dmn dy ieiqhfs nUM smJx dI koiÈÈ nhIN krdy. AunHF ikhf ik
ieMtrnYt `qy “dust dmn” Èbd Koj ky ies dy ieiqhfs nUM iswK kOm pVH skdI hY ijs
anusfr jd dyviqaF aqy rfKÈF df XuwD ho irhf sI qF dyviqaF dI shfieqf leI phuMcI
durgf dyvI Gbrf ky nws AuWTI ikAuNik rfKÈ rkq bIË dy zuwly Kun qoN hor rkqbIË
pYdf ho rhy sn. jd zrdI mfrI BwjI hoeI durgf qp kr rhy smfD irÈI kol shfieqf leI
puwjI qF Aus nUM nyVy hI phfVI ivwc Cup jfx leI ikhf. jd durgf df ipwCf krdy
hoey rfKÈ, smfD irÈI pfsoN puwCx lwgy ik durgf ikQy hY? qF smfD irÈI ny ikhf ik
iewk ablf Aus dI Èrx ivwc afeI hY ies leI Auh Aus bfry kuwJ nhIN dsxgy. rfKÈF ny
irÈI nUM ikhf jy qUM nhIN dsxf cfhuMdf qF sfzy nfl XuwD kr. smfD irÈI ny ikhf ik
mYN jfq df bRfhmx hF qy myrf Drm XuwD krnf nhIN. jy qusIN cfho qF quhfzy nfl
XuwD krn leI mYN KqrI pYdf kr skdf hF aqy AunHF dy hF kihx’ qy smfD irÈI ny Èyr
dI Auh Kwl ijs’ qy Auh qp kr irhf sI cuwk ky JfiVaf qF Aus ivcoN dust dmn pYdf
hoieaf ijs ny XuwD kr ky rfKÈF nUM hrfAux ipCoN dust dmn ny smfD irÈI awgy bynqI
kIqI ik ipqf jI hux sfzy leI kI hukm hY qF AunHF ikhf ik jfh hux hymkuMt `qy jf
ky qp kr. pRo[ drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik ies hfsohIxI sfKI anusfr jd hymkuMt `qy
hËfrF vrÈF qoN qp sfD rhy dust dmn nUM prmfqmf ny mfq lok ivwc Drm df ivsQfr krn
leI ikhf qF dust dmn ny bynqI kIqI jy mYnUM mfq lok ivwc Byjxf hI hY qF qp sfD
rhy smfD irÈI dy Gr pYdf kIqf jfvy aqy ies qrHF gurU goibMd isMG jI dy muK qoN
apxI mfqf durgf aqy ipqf smfD irÈI nUM dws ky bRfhmx dy Gr pYdf hoieaf disaf jf
irhf hY AunHF ikhf ik ies sfKI nUM ivcfrn `qy iqMn gwlF sfhmxy afAuNdIaF hn.
pihlI ieh ik “jYsy mfq ipqf ibnu bflu n hoeI” pr ieQy dust dmn Èyr dI Kwl ivcoN
pYdf hoieaf jo ik gurbfxI isDFq dI KMznf hY. dUjI gwl ieh ik ijhVy vI mhFpurÈ
nUM bRfhmx vIcfr-crcf ivwc nf hrf skx Aus nUM Auh bRfhmx iswD krx df jqn krdy hn
ijvyN ik Bgq rivdfs jI df ipwClf jnm bRfhmx dy Gr df hoxf dwisaf. Bgq kbIr jI
nUM bRfhmxI dy pytoN jMimaf hoxf disaf aqy gurU goibMd isMG jI nUM duÈt dmn dy
rUp ivc, gurU qyg bhfdr sfihb jI nUM smfD irÈI dy rUp ivwc dws ky AunHF dy Gr
jnm lYxf disaf. pRo[ drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik iswK df sMbMD gurU nfl Aus dy
gurqfgwdI `qy ibrfjmfn hox qoN bfad nfl hY nf ik Aus dy pihly krm aqy jnmF nfl
sMbMD hY. ijvyN ik gurU aMgd sfihb jI, gurU bxn qoN pihlF dyvI pUjk sn pr gurU
bxn qoN bfad AunHF df dyvI nfl koeI sMbMD nhI irhf. Ausy qrHF gurU bxn qoN pihlF
gurU amrdfs jI hr sfl qIrQF `qy ieÈnfn krn jfieaf krdy sn pr gurU igafn pRfpq
hox qoN bfad AunHF df qIrQF nfl koeI sMbMD nhIN sI. Ausy qrHF gurU goibMd isMG
jI dy ipCly jnm dIaF mnGVq sfKIaF nfl iswK df koeI sMbMD nhIN. pRo[ drÈn isMG ny
ikhf ik qIsrI gwl ieh hY ik bRfhmx hmyÈF afpf –ivroDI gwlF krdf hY iesy leI
dust-dmn nUM bRfhmx (smfD irÈI) vwloN pYdf kIqf dwsx AuprMq bicwqr nftk ivwc ilK
rhy hn ik ‘KqRI ko pUq ho, bfmx ko nfih’. pRo[ drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik asIN ikMny
BulyKy ivwc Psy hoey hF ik muV bRfhmx vwloN rcy gey gRMQF nUM hI gurU goibMd
isMG jI df rwicaf mMn ky gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr pRkfÈ kr rhy hF, ijMnHF
rfhIN muV bRfhmx bxn dy rfh pY cuwky hF. AunHF ikhf ik bRfhmx vwloN sfnUM BulyKy
ivwc pfAux leI rwcy sfihq nUM gurU ikRq kihx vfly ieh iblkul nhIN socdy ik ijhVI
durgf afpxI rwiKaf Kud nhIN kr skI aqy dust dmn ny rfKÈF nfl XuwD kr ky Aus nUM
bcfieaf Ausy dust dmn df avqfr gurU goibMd isMG jI ÈkqI pRfpqI leI Ausy durgf dI
arfDnf ikAuN krngy ijs sMbMDI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivwc drË hY “mhf mfeI kI pUjf
krY nr sY nfir hoie aAuqrY” aqy qUM khIaq hI afid BvfnI mukiq kI brIaf khf
CpfnI”. pRo[ drÈn isMG jI vwloN kIqy gey Èbd kIrqn aqy viKafn dOrfn idwqy gey
gurbfxI pRmfxF qoN syvfpMQI mhMq prmjIq isMG ijhVy apxI sMpRdfie anusfr dust dmn
aqy bicwqr nftk dIaF sfKIaF suxfAuNdy af rhy sn ieMny pRBfivq hoey ik kIrqn dI
smfpqI AuprMq ikhf ik Auh mihsUs krdy hn ik pRo[ sfihb df awj df kIrqn suxn qoN
pihlF Auh BulyKy ivwc rhy hn ijhVy ik awj dUr ho gey hn. mhMq prmjIq isMG ny
gurbfxI df hvflf idMidaF “ipCly avgix bKiÈ lY pRB afgY mfrig pfvY” pVidaF gurU
gRMQ sfihb awgy ardfs kIqI ik awgy qoN gurbfxI dI sUJ bKiÈaf jfvy.
(30/11/08)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
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vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
srvjIq isMG jI
qusF iliKaf ik:
ivdvfnF dI sMgq
krn aqy AunHF dIaF ilKqF nUM pVHn qoN mY ijs nqIjy qy puijaf hF Aus anUsfr
mUlmMqr,
ÃÄ siq nfmu krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl
mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]]
qwk
hY jy kr koeI swjx ies qoN vwKrI rfey rwKdf
hovy qF mY Aus nUM jI afieaF afKdf hF aqy dlIl nfl ivcfr crcf krn df swdf idMdf
hF.
jy koeI vwKrI rfey rwKdf hY qF
mYN Aus nUM jI afieaF afKdf hF, vIr myiraf mYN koeI vwKrI rfey nhIN rwKdf qF,
kI mYnUM jI afieaF nhIN khogy?
kuJ sMikaF df invfrx kro qF mYN
quhfzf Èukrgujfr hovFgf.
qusIN afpxI icTI ivwc ivdvfnF
dI sMgq bfry iliKaf hY ikRpf krky dsogy aijhy ikhVy BfgÈflI sjx hn ijnHF nUM
qusIN ivdvfn smJdy ho. hF jy nfl hI ivdvfn df arQ vI smJf idE qF quhfzI bhuq
ikRpf hovygI. mYN vI afpxy afp nUM ivdvfn smJwx dI Bul kr bYTf sI pr Blf hovy
gurpRIq isMG smrf jI df ijnHF ny mYnUM Kbrdfr kr idqf.
qusF mUlmMqr bfry iliKaf.
ikRpf krky spÈt krnf jI
(1)
mUl df arQ kI hY?
(2)
mMqr df arQ kI huMdy hn?
(3)
mUlmMqr dy arQ kI hn?
(4)
kI qusIN iksy mMqr ivwc
ivÈvfÈ krdy ho?
qrlocn isMG
(29/11/08)
dsm gRMQ ivvfd sMbMDI iek KLbr
dsm gRMQ
ivvfd sbMDI PYslf qKq ÈRI kysgVH sfihb dy muwK syvfdfr dy lVky dI ÈfdI qoN
ipwCoN kIqf jfvygf: igafnI gurbcn isMG
pMQ dy gMBIr
msilaF nUM ltkdf rwKx leI muwK syvfdfr bhfny lwB rhy hn: BfeI Aupkfr isMG
biTMzf, 28 nvMbr (pwqr pRyrk) :
aKOqI dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) sbMDI PYslf qKq ÈRI kysgVH sfihb afnMdpur sfihb dy
muwK syvfdfr igafnI qrlocn isMG dy lVky dI ÈfdI qoN ipwCoN kIqf jfvygf. ieh Èbd
sRI akfl qKq sfihb dy muwK syvfdfr igafnI gurbcn isMG ny, ieh cyqf krvfey jfx
`qy khy ik AunHF aKOqI dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) sbMDI PYslf ÈRomxI kmytI dy pRDfn
dI cox qoN bfad kIqy jfx df vfadf kIqf sI, hux pRDfn dI cox 22 nvMbr nUM hoieaF
iewk hÌqf bIq igaf hY, ies leI ies sbMD `c hux qwk kI kfrvfeI hoeI hY? jvfb `c
AunHF ikhf ik ies sbMDI gwlbfq krn leI kmytI bxfAuxf AunHF dy muK eyjMzy `qy hY,
pr igafnI qrlocn isMG dy lVky dI ÈfdI 9 dsMbr nUM ho rhI hY, ies kfrn AunHF nfl
gwl nhIN ho skI, ÈfdI AupRMq CyqI hI mIitMg krky kmytI bxfeI jfvygI. AunHF ieh
vI ikhf ik asIN sfrIaF iDrF nUM joVnf hY, ÌrIdfbfd vfly aqy qusIN (spoksmYn) vI
sfzy nyVy afAu, quhfnUM vI asIN nfl joVnf hY. igafnI gurbcn isMG dy ies ibafn
`qy itwpxI krdy hoey ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuWcqf nuM smripq jQybMdI dsm
gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl dy knvInr BfeI Aupkfr isMG PrIdfbfd ny
ikhf ik ies smyN aKOqI dsm gRMQ df ivvfd ieqnf gMBIr ho cuwkf hY ik ies kfrn kOm
do ihwisaF ivwc vMzx dy kMZy phuMcI hoeI hY. dsm gRMQ pwKI ivakqI, gurU gRMQ
sfihb jI dI bfxI dy pRmfxf dy aDfr `qy koeI dlIl mMnx jF gwl suxn leI iqafr
nhIN. AunHF ikhf ik ÈqfbdI smfgm mOky qKq ÈRI hËUr sfihb nFdyV ivKy aKOqI dsm
gRMQ dI aslIaq pRgt krdy hoey prcy vMzx vfly jQy nfl afey 2 pfiksqfnI iswK
nOjvfnF `qy dsm gRMQ pwKIaF ny qyËDfr hiQafrF nfl hmlf kIqf aqy bfad `c afeI[
aYWs[ afeI[ dy eyjMt kih ky puils Qfxy PVvf idwqf, ijs nfl iswKF dI aMqr rfÈtrI
pwDr `qy bdnfmI hoeI, Aus AupRMq tftf ngr (jmÈYdpur) ivKy qKq ÈRI ptnf sfihb dy
muK syvfdfr igafnI iekbfl isMG dy bMidaF ny dsm gRMQ dy ivroDI iDr dy iswK
nOjvfnF `qy ikrpfnF nfl hmlf kr idwqf aqy Aultf igafnI iekbfl isMG ny AunHF dy
jvfb dyx dI QF iswK sMgqF nUM dsm gRMQ ivroDIaF `qy hmly krn leI Auksfieaf. BfeI
Aupkfr isMG ny ikhf ik aijhIaF sfrIaF GtnfvF iswKF `c KfnfjMgI hox vl sMkyq dy
rhIaF hn pr sfzy ijMmyvfr muK syvfdfr Coty Coty bhfinaF ipwCy ies gMBIr msly nUM
ltkf rhy hn. AunHF ikhf ik pihlF ieh kihMdy sn ik ivvfd df hl 300 sflf gurqf
gwdI smfgmF qoN ipwCoN kIqf jfvygf, ÈqfbdI lMGx ipwCoN ikhf ik ÈRomxI kmytI dy
pRDfn dI cox ipwCoN kIqf jfvygf aqy hux kih idwqf ik iewk muwK syvfdfr dy lVky
dI ÈfdI ipwCoN kIqf jfvygf aqy Aus qoN ipwCoN ho skdf hY iksy muK syvfdfr dy Gr
aKMz pfT df Bog pYxf hovy qF ivvfd dy hwl leI pfT dy Bog qoN ipwCoN df smF dy
idwqf jfvygf. BfeI Aupkfr isMG ny ikhf ik ivvfd dy hwl leI mMc vloN PrIdfbfd
ivKy 30 nvMbr nUM bicwqr nftk drbfr df afXojn kIqf jf irhf hY, ijs ivwc aKOqI
dsm gRMQ ivcly iqRaf cirwqrF bfry ÈMikaF df invfrx krn leI vIcfrF kIqIaF
jfxgIaF. AunHF ikhf ik AunHF aÉbfr `c ieÈiqhfr dy ky ÈRI akfl qKq sfihb dy muwK
syvfdfr igafnI gurbcn isMG jI nUM KuwlHf swdf idwqf hY ik Auh bicwqr nftk drbfr
`c hfËrI Br ky iqRaf cirwqrF sbMDI sMgqF dy ÈMikaF df invfrn krn. BfeI Aupkfr
isMG ny ikhf ik jy igafnI gurbcn isMG jI iqRaf cirwqr rcnf sbMDI AuTy svflF dy
ÈMikaF df invfrn kr sky qF AunHF df bxdf siqkfr kIqf jfvygf, agr Auh jvfb nf dy
pfey qF AunHF nUM bynqI kIqI jfvygI ik Auh afpxI hfr kbUldy hoey ies qoN bfad
aKOqI dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) pRym qoN pfsy ho ky kyvl qy kyvl ÈRI gurU gRMQ
sfihb jI awgy hI afpxf sIs invfAux. BfeI Aupkfr isMG ny ikhf ik jykr pMjy muK
syvfdfr dsm gRMQ pRym nUM Cwz ky ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy nyVy af jfx qF asIN
AunHF dy nyVy af jfx leI iqafr hF. jd ies sbMDI igafnI gurbcn isMG nfl sMprk
kIqf qF AunHF ikhf ik hr iewk dy ÈMky dUr kIqy jfxgy, pr 30 nvMbr nUM bicwqr
nftk drbfr `c phuMcx qoN ienkfr krdy hoey AunHF ikhf ik pihlF iewk kmytI bxfeI
jfvygI aqy iPr Aus kmytI vloN PrIdfbfd vfilaF nUM ÈRI akfl qKq sfihb `qy swidaf
jfvygf, ijwQy AunHF dy ÈMky nivrq kIqy jfxgy aqy nyVy ilaFdf jfvygf.
(29/11/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn
pRo[ avqfr isMG jI PgvfVf nUM
slfm.
jdoN Bwjy jFdy PgvfVy nUM kuwJ
svfl kIqy sn qF myrf pihlf svfl iehI sI ik quhfzf nfm pwpy nUM hoVy nfl ÈurU
huMdf hY qy ieh dwsxf ik qusIN pI[ aYc[ zI[ ikQo kIqI? ikhVy sfl kIqI sI? Aus
qoN bfad qusIN ikhVf kMm kIqf ik qusIN proPYsr bxy? quhfnUM ikhVI XunIvristI ny
kdoN afpxy nfm nfl pRoPYsr ilKx leI mnËUrI idwqI? jF iPr --- isMG vFg jo aimRqsr
tfeImË pMnf 27 qrIK 26 nvMbr qoN 2 dsMbr qk df aKbfr hY, ivwc afpxy afp nUM pRo[
-- isMG ilKdf hY, vFgr hI pRo[ bxy ho? jvfb awj qk nhIN afieaf. jy hux vI qusIN
ies svfl df jvfb nf idwqf qF mYN sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI nUM bynqI krUMgf ky
aYsy lokF dIaF ilKqF ies vYb sfeIt qy nf pfeIaF jfx jo srfsr JUT df shfrf lYNdy
hn ikAuNik iswKI ieh nhIN isKfAuNdI.
hux mYN quhfzy vloN kIqy kukrm
qy dsm ipqf dI Èfn nUM imwtI ivwc rolx leI ilKy gey gRMQ df pUrf iewk cilqR ilK
ky Byj irhf hF qy qusIN afpxy ivcfr ilK ky Byj dyxy ky isiKaf kI imldI hY nhIN
qF awgy vfsqy afpxI grk cukI soc nUM sMgqF dy rUbrU nf krnf.
sRI dsm gRMQ sfihb jI pMnf
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cOpeI] iewk idn bfg cMclf geI]
his his bcn bKfnq BeI] sRY inisrfj pRBf iqRX qhF] aYsI Bfiq AucfrXo AuhF] 1] jO
rfjf qy bfir iBrfAUN. afpnI JftY sBY muMzfAuN] qb iqRX hoz skl qum hfrhu] inju
nYnn ieh cirq inhfrhu] 2] XO kihkY suB Bys bnfXo] dYv adyvn ko ibrmfXo] cirqR
isMG rfjf jb afXo. suin ieh bcn cMclf pfXo] 3] bYT JroKy deI idKfeI] rfjf rhy
rUp AurJfeI] eyk bfr iehkO jO pfAUN] jnm shsR lgy bil jfAUN] 4] pTY shcrI leI
bulfeI] pRIiq sihq rs rIqupjfeI] ablf qb muriCq hvY geI. pfin pfin Aucrq muK
BeI] 5] AuT kir afpf rfv qb gXo] qfkh pfin pXfvq BXo] pfin ipey bhuro suiD BeI]
rfjY iPir cuMbn iqh leI] 6] jb suiD mY ablf kCu afeI] bhuir kfm kI kyl mcfeI]
doAU qrn n koAU hfrY] XO rfjf iqh sfQ ibhfrY] 7] bhuir bfl ieh Bfiq AucfrI] suno
rfv qum bfq hmfrI] iqRX kI JFt n muzI jfeI] bydpurfnn mY suin pfeI] 8] hiskir
rfv bcn XO TfnXo] mYN apuny ijX sfc n jfnXo] qYN iqRX hm so JUT AucfrI] hm
mUMzyNgy Jfit iqhfrI] 9] qyj Ausqrf eyk mMgfXo] inj kr gihkY rfv clfXo qF kI
mUMiz JFit sB zfrI] dYkY hsI cMclf qfrI] 10] dohrf] pfin Brfv rfv qy inju kr
Jfit mUMzfie] hoz jIq lyqI BeI iqn ablfn idKfie] 11]
pRoPYsr PgvfVf jI ieh 190vF
cirqR hY quhfzy muqfbk dsm ipqf jI df iliKaf hoieaf hY. afE hux srl ijhI BfÈf
ivwc qrjmf krIey qy dyKIey ik mqlb kI hY. vYsy mYN koiÈÈ kIqI sI ik
www.dasmgranth.org qoN hI kfpI krky
pyst kr dyvF pr ieMÖ hoieaf nhIN. clo.
iek idn bfg ivwc insrfj pRBf
nfm dI aOrq afpxIaF shylIaF nfl hws hws ky gwlF krdI ieh kihMdI hY ik hy
iesqrIE! jy mYN rfjy qoN pfxI BrfvF qy afpxIaF sfrIaF JFtF munfvF qd qusIN
sfrIaF Èrq hfr jfEgIaF. ieh kih ky Aus ny afpxf suMdr Bys bxfieaf. dyviqaF aqy
dYNqF nUM Brmf ilaf. jd rfjf cirqR isMG bfg `c afieaf suixaf qF insrfj pRBf nfm
dI aOrq ny JroKy `c bYT ky idKfeI idwqI. rfjy ny afpxI dfsI Byj ky pRBf nUM bulf
ilaf qy pRIq sihq rqI rs nUM pYdf kIqf. pRBf ny mUrÈf df svFg ricaf qy pfxI pfxI
krn lwg peI. qd rfjy ny afpxy hwQF nfl Aus nUM pfxI iplfieaf qy jdoN Auh hoÈ `c
afeI qF rfjy ny Ausdf cuMmx ilaf.
jd pRBf hor hoÈ `c afeI qF rfjy
ny Aus nfl Bog kfm kRIVf ÈurU kr idwqI. dovyN jvfn sn, koeI hfr nhIN irhf. ies
qrHF rfjf Aus nfl rmx kr irhf sI. iPr pRBf ny ikhf –hy rfjn vydF purfxF ivcoN
suixaf hY ik iesqRI dIaF JFtF muMnIaF nhIN jfdIaF. hws ky rfjy ny ikhf ik ies
gwl nUM mYN Afpxy mn ivwc swc nhIN mMn nhIN mMndf. hy iesqRI! qUM mYNnUM JUT
ikhf hY. mYN qyrIaF JFtF munFgf. rfjy ny iewk qyj Ausqrf mMgvfieaf qy afpxy hwQ
ivwc lY ky Aus dIaF JFtF muMn idwqIaF. Auh iesqRI qfVI mfr ky hsI. pihlF rfjy
qoN pfxI Brvfieaf qy iPr JFtF munvfeIaF.
ieQy sRI cirqROpfiKafn dy qRIaf
cirqR dy mMqRI BUp sMvfd dy 190 vyN cirqR dI smfpqI, sB ÈuB hY. 190[ 3600[ cldf.
1.
PgvfVf jI ieh dsm gRMQ df 1082 pMny qy
iliKaf hoieaf 190vF cirqR hY qy qrjmfnI zf[ Rqn isMG jwgI dI hY. ies nUM CpvfAux
vflf His Holliness Baba Virsa singh
jee hn qy sfzI bolI ivwc ieh kwty kuwt myry
ipMzF dy nyV df axpV jwt hY. hux qusIN afpxI imwTI qy ipafrI bolI ivwc ieh dwsx
ik ies ivcoN quhfnUM isiKaf kI imlI?
2.
kI hux sfry iswK JFtF muMnx lwg jfx?
3.
kI hux iswKF nUM ijhVI vI jnfnI imly qy ieh
khy ik mYN qyry nfl rfq ibqfAuxI cfhuMdI hF, gurU gRMQ sfihb dI isiKaf dy Ault,
jwt hf krky sfrI rfq rfjy vFgr kfm kRIVf ivwc Kcq ho jfxf cfhIdf hY.
4.
kI ienHF goiraf ny, ijnHF ny afpxy muMzy
kuVIaF nUM kfm krn dI jo Kul idwqI hoeI hY, ikqy dsm gRMQ sfihb jI dI isiKaf qF
nhIN leI hoeI?
5.
ikqy iswK ieh kMm krn ivwc ipwCy qF nhIN
rih gey?
6.
kI ieh isiKaf gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy muqfbk
vI hY?
7.
ijwQy ikqy jnfnIaF dy nfm ilKy hn Auh sfry,
iewk awD nUM Cwz ky, Auqr pRdys dy ihMdU aOrqF dy nfm hI hn. kI gurU jI nUM iksy
muslmfn aOrq dy cirqR df cyqf nhIN afieaf? ivcfr krn vflf ieh iewk aihm nukqf
hY.
gurU pMQ df dfs,
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.
(29/11/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU
jI kI Pqih.
gurcrn isMG (ijAuxvflf) jI!
prmfqmf, prfqmf, aqy pRfqmf iqMn vwK vwK Èbd hn.
prmfqmf= krqfr, pfrbRhm,
prmyÈvr hY.
prfqmf jF prfqmu= prfeI afqmf
(dyKo pMnf- 661 aqy pMnf- 1030).
pRfqmf= jIvfqmf (dyKo
pMnf-868).
mnjIq isMG jI ny ijhVIaF
pMgqIaF df iËkr kIqf hY AunHF ivwc Èbd aqmf prfqmf
afieaf hY. jdoN ik pRo: gurbcn isMG jI ny ies nUM afqmf
prmfqmf iliKaf hY. ho skdf hY ies qrHF ÊlqI nfl iliKaf igaf hovy pr jy
Auh prfqmf df arQ prmfqmf kr rhy hn qF ieh TIk nhIN hY.
afqmf ikwQy pRvyÈ krdI hY jF
nhIN ies bfry afpxI kfPI ivcfr ho cuwkI hY. ies bfry jy qusIN ivcfr awgy qornIN
cfho qF ijwQy afpF ivcfr CwzI hY AuWQoN ÈurU kr skdy ho. jy nhIN qF ies ivÈy qy
hor ivcfr nF hI idwqy jfx qF cMgI gwl hY. DMnvfd.
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
(403) 248 2169
(28/11/08)
mnjIq isMG
Respected S.
Makhan Singh ji
Sat Sri Akal
Regarding your remarks on the letter of Mr
Baldev Singh Gill Hong Kong dated November 27, 2008, which I am reproducing
below:
“(sMpfdk
vloN:- dsm gRMQ bfry sfry lyK qusIN ‘iswK mfrg’ dy muwK pMny qy hyTF jf ky ‘dsm
gRMQ bfry lyK’ nUM kilk kr ky pVH skdy ho. afpxI jfxkfrI leI dsm gRMQ ivcoN jo
mrjLI pVHo pr jy kr qusIN pMQk jQybMdI dy mYNbr ho kihx qoN Bfv hY ik phulDfrI
ho qF jo pMQk mrXfdf ivc hY Aus anusfr clo aqy nfl hI inqnym krdy smyN jF “qh hm
aiDk qpwisaf sfDI, mhF kfl kflkf arfDI” suxdy smyN afpxy ihrdy ivcoN iek hUk
kwZo ik hy DUiqaF dI iswK kOm jIE quhfnUM CyqIN qoN CyqIN akl df dfn iml jfvy qF
ik pMQk mrXfdf ivc soD krky sfrIaF inqnym dIaF bfxIaF gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivcoN
hI drjL kIqIaF jf skx)”
It is like the story of
Mansoor and Shibli in Islamic History. Mansoor was sentenced to death by stoning
according to Islamic Shariyat Law by the Khalifa of that time, because he was
not following “Shariya” or in our language “Maryada”. Shibli, who was a good
friend of Mansoor, knew that Mansoor is right in his belief and had not
committed any crime for which he was facing death by stoning.
On the day of execution,
Mansoor was ordered by Quazi in accordance with Shariyat Law to sit on a
thorough fare and every passerby was ordered to throw anything at Mansoor to hit
him. All passersby threw stones at Mansoor. Shibli, who was a good friend of
Mansoor, also passed by that area to have last glimpse of his friend facing
cruel death. He never wanted to hit his friend with stone, but as per “shariyat”
he was required to throw anything to hit Mansoor. So he decided to throw flowers
at Mansoor.
Mansoor, who was enduring
stoning of all the people who passed by that area without any reaction, started
crying when he was hit by flowers thrown at him by Shibli his friend who knew
that Mansoor was innocent.
Are not we acting like
Shibli, when we are knowing in the heart of our hearts that “Shariya” or
“Maryada” enforced upon us is wrong, yet we go on obeying this.
Best regards
Manjit Singh
(mnjIq isMG jI
gwl qF quhfzI TIk hY pr ieh Auqnf icr nhIN ho skdf ijqnf icr koeI POlfd dIaF
lwqF vflf ivdvfn lIzr idRVqf nfl awgy nhIN afAuNdf. afty dIaF lwqF vfly doglI
iksm dy lIzr kJu nhIN sMvfr skdy ijhVy iek pfsy qF iqRaf cirqr nUM rwd krdy hn
pr nfl hI dUsy pfsy cOpeI nUM aMimRq bfxI vI kihMdy hn jo ik iqRaf cirqr df hI
ihwsf hY. sfzf kMm qF hokf dy ky jgfAuxF hY jo asIN QoVf bhuq krI jf rhy
hF-sMpfdk)
(28/11/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn
sR[ mnjIq isMG
jI!
vfih gurU jI kf Kflsf vfih gurU
jI kI Pqih. quhfzI icwTI pVH ky mYN pRo[ gurbcn isMG jI horF nfl PUn qy gwl kIqI
qy “afqmf prmfqmf eyko krY” bfry spwÈtI krx dyx leI ikhf. ijs qrHF sR[ mwKx isMG
jI puryvfl horF ilK hI idwqf hY ik pRo[ gurbcn isMG jI horIN pRcfr dOry qy hn qy
Auh jvfb nhIN dy pfAuxgy. ieh iblkul gwl TIk hY. mhfn koÈ pMnf 98 qy BfeI kfhn
isMG nfBf jI vI “afqmf prfqmf eyko krY” hI ilKdy hn. iewQy isrP iewk ‘mwmf’ hI
ijafdf iliKaf igaf hY qy ieh ilKx ivwc hoeI glqI hY hor koeI BulyKf jF BulyKf
pfAux leI nhIN iliKaf igaf.
DnfsrI mhlf 1] ndir kry qf
ismiraf jfie] afqmf dRvY rhY ilv lfie] afqmf
prfqmf eyko krY] aMqr kI duibDf aMqir mrY] 1] gur prsfdI pfieaf jfie] hir
isAu icqu lfgY iPir kflu n Kfie] 1] rhfAu] sic ismiraY hovY prgfsu] qf qy ibiKaf
mih rhY Audfsu] siqgur kI aYsI vizafeI] puqR klqR ivcy giq pfeI] 2] aYsI syvku
syvf krY] ijs kf jIAu iqsu afgY DrY] sfihb BfvY so prvfxu] so syvku drgh pfvY
mfxu] 3] siqgur kI mUriq ihrdY vsfey] jo ieCY soeI Plu pfey] sfcf sfihbu ikrpf
krY] so syvku jm qy kYsf zrY] 4] Bniq nfnku kry vIcfru] sfcI bfxI isAu Dry
ipafru] qf ko pfvY moK duafru] jpu qpu sBu iehu sbdu hY sfru] 5] 2] 4] {pMnf
661}
afqmf aqy prfqmf df mqlb hY
afpxI qy dUjy dI soc jdoN iewk ho jFdI hY qF ivcfrF df Prk imt jFdf hY. hor iksy
afqmf df mrx qoN bfad iksy ÈrIr ivcoN inkl ky iksy hor ÈrIr ivwc pRvys krn bfry
sfry gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc ikDry vI iËkr nhIN qy nf hI gurbfxI ies nUM mMndI hY.
Bul cuk muafP.
gurU pMQ df dfs,
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.
(28/11/08)
zf: jiqMdr isMG
Dear S Makhan Singh ji
Guru Fateh
Since last week the article on 'Aatma' by Prof Gurbachan Singh g is excellent.
It is an eye opener to clear the concept of 'Aatma' as per Gurmat doctrine.
Your web site is super & we are regular visitors to your site.
Thank You
Jatinder S Sawhney, MD
Mount Sinai Medical Center
New York, NY 10029
(28/11/08)
srvjIq isMG
iswK
mfrg dy siqkfr Xog pfTko,
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf. vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]
ivdvfnF dI sMgq
krn aqy AunHF dIaF ilKqF nMU pVHn qoN mY ijs nqIjy qy puijaf hF Aus anUsfr
mUlmMqr, ÃÄ siq nfmu
krqf purKu inrBAu inrvYru akfl mUriq ajUnI sYBM gur pRsfid]]
qwk hY jy kr koeI swjx ies qoN vwKrI rfey rwKdf
hovy qF mY Aus nMU jI afieaF afKdf hF aqy dlIl nfl ivcfr crcf krn df swdf idMdf
hF.
afdr sihq
srvjIq isMG
(28/11/08)
dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl
bwicqr nftk drbfr
smUh iswK sMgqF nUM bynqI kIqI
jFdI hY ik dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) bfry afpxI jfnkfrI ivwc vfDf krx leI
30/11/2008
nUM PrIdfbfd ivwc ho rhy bicwqr nftk drbfr ivwc
hfËrI Bro. ijs ivwc Aucycy qOr `qy dsm gRMQ df ilKfrI kOx? ikqfb dy lyKk s[
jsivMdr isMG ‘dubeI’ aqy hor ivdvfn ijnHF ny bicwqr nftk (dsm gRMQ) bfry afpxIaF
ikqfbF qy lyKF rfhIN sMgqF nUM avgq krfieaf, afid vI puwj rhy hn.
ËrUrI bynqI:- bRhmigafnI gurbcn isMG
(muwK syvfdfr sRI akfl qÉq sfihb) jo ik 30/11/2008 nUM ÌrIdfbfd ivKy ho rhy
kIrqn drbfr ivwc puwj rhy hn, nUM Aucycy qOr `qy bynqI kIqI jFdI hY ik ies
‘bicwqr nftk drbfr’ ivwc vI afpxI hfËrI Br ky dsm gRMQ ivclI rcnf iqRaf cirwqr
bfry sMgqF dy ÈMikaF df invfrx krn. asIN AunHF dy bhuq DMnvfdI hovFgy.
sMgqF dy iDafn ihq:-bRhmigafnI gurbcn
isMG (muwK syvfdfr sRI akfl qÉq sfihb) ny gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy 300 sflf
gurqfgwdI smyN hËUr sfihb nFdyV ivKy mfqf sfihb dyvF dy gurduafry ivwc krvfey
gey dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) dy pfT-boD smfgm ivwc BI hfËrIaF BrIaF sn. AunHF ny
sMgqF nUM sfihb sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI dy lV lfAux dI bjfey aKOqI dsm
gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) dy gux gfey ijs vwjoN dmdmI tksfl dy muwKI hrnfm isMG DuMmf
aqy AunHF dy sihXogIaF vwloN isropfE BytF kr ky snmfnq kIqf igaf.
igafnI gurbcn isMG jI nUM dsm
gRMQ (bwicwqr nftk) ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl pUrf Brosf idvfAuNdf hY ik jy qusIN
‘bicwqr nftk drbfr’ ivwc dsm gRMQ ivclI iqRXf cirqR rcnf `qy AuWTy svflF dy
ÈMikaF df invfrx kr swky qF quhfzf bxdf hr siqkfr kIqf jfvygf, jykr ÈMikaF df
jvfb nhIN dy pfey qF qusIN afpxI hfr kbUldy hoey ies qoN bfad bicwqr nftk (aKOqI
dsm gRMQ) pRym qoN pfsy ho ky kyvl qy kyvl gurU gRMQ sfihb jI awgy hI apnf sIs
invfAux aqy jIvn syDF lYx df pRx krogy.
sMgqF nUM GbrfAux dI
loV nhIN:- jykr sMgqF dy ÈMikaF dy
juafb igafnI gurbcn isMG nhIN dy pfey qF puwj rhy ivdvfnF vwloN sMgqF dy ÈikaF
df invfrx pUrI qswlI nfl krvf ky hI ivdvfn swjx vfps jfxgy.
jfrI krqf: sfihb sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI
srvAuWcqf nUM smrpwq jwQybMdI
dsm gRMQ (bicwqr nftk) ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl
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bicwqr nftk drbfr bfry ieÈiqhfr aqy hor vyrvf
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http://www.rozanaspokesman.com/fullpage.aspx?view=main&mview=Nov&dview=28&pview=3
(28/11/08)
sMqoK isMG (afstRylIaf)
gurmuK ipary s[ mwKx isMG jIE,
siqkfr sihq
vfihgurU jI kf Éflsf
vfihgurU jI kI Ìiqh]
DMnvfd hY eyny ruJyvyN ivco icwTI pVHn aqy
Ausdf suJf sihq Auqr dyx df.
myrI smwisaf ieh hY ik hux
mYQoN hor nvyN ÌOt nhI iswKy jFdy ijnHF df kI borz vwKrf hovy.
mYnUM aihsfs hY ik zI afr
cfiqRk afid ÌONt suKfÜy hn pr mY keI ÌONtF ipwCoN msF hI ies kI borz nUM loV
anusfr vrqx dy Xog hoieaf hF jI. cfiqRk PONt hor vI swjxF ny vrqx df suJf smy
smy idqf hY pr myry leI aOKf hI hY.
mY afpxIaF dohF qfjf ikqfbF
dIaF sfÌt kfpIaF Byj irhf hF. smf imÜy qF iehnF ivcdI lMG jfxf jI. jykr koeI lyK
iehnF ivcoN Xog smJo qF vrq lYxf ibnf iksy iJjk dy. vYsy qF bhuq sfry lyK pihlF
smyq ‘iswK mfrg’ dy, keI pricaF ivwc Cp hI cuwky hn. iehnF dohF ikqfbF bfry iek
pfTk dy ivcfr vI nfÜ hI hn.
ho sky qF byloVI bihs vfÜIaF
icwTIaF Cfpx qoN guryË hI kiraf kro. aijhf ilKx vfÜy kuwJ iswKx dI QF dUijaF nUM
jbrdsqI isKfAux dy XqnF ivwc hn. ivcfr vtFdry leI qF guMjfieÈ hY pr byloVI bihs
leI quhfzf eynf kImqI smf qy vsIly vrqy jfx, ieh koeI bhuqI lfBdfiek bfq mYnUM
nhI lwgdI. agy qusIN Éud isafxy ho. “KojI AupjY bfdI ibnsY]” mhFrfj jI df hukm
vI hY. “afpy afKY afpy smJY iqsu ikaf Auqru dIjY]”
Buwl dI pyÈgI hI iÉmf mMgdf hF jI.
rwb rfKf[
siqkfr sihq
sMqoK isMG
(27/11/08)
mnjIq isMG
S. Makhan Singh Ji
Sat Sri Akal
I have read Prof. Gurbachan Singh Thailand’s article
“gurmq
ivwc afqmf df
sMklp” part 2. It refers a sentence from
Gurbani in the second para:
“BfeI kfhn isMG jI nfBf awgy ilKdy hn
"afqmf prmfqmf eyko krY" DnfsrI m: 1, 2[ prmfqmf,
pfrbRhm, vfhgurU,”
I am reproducing the entire Shabad from Guru Granth Sahib
Darpan:
DnfsrI mhlf 1 ] ndir kry qf ismiraf jfie
] afqmf dRvY rhY ilv lfie ] afqmf prfqmf eyko krY ]
aMqr kI duibDf aMqir mrY ] 1] gur prsfdI pfieaf jfie ] hir isAu icqu lfgY iPir
kflu n Kfie ] 1] rhfAu ] sic ismiraY hovY prgfsu ] qf qy ibiKaf mih rhY Audfsu ]
siqgur kI aYsI vizafeI ] puqR klqR ivcy giq pfeI ] 2] aYsI syvku syvf krY ] ijs
kf jIAu iqsu afgY DrY ] sfihb BfvY so prvfxu ] so syvku drgh pfvY mfxu ] 3]
siqgur kI mUriq ihrdY vsfey ] jo ieCY soeI Plu pfey ] sfcf sfihbu ikrpf krY ] so
syvku jm qy kYsf zrY ] 4] Bniq nfnku kry vIcfru ] sfcI bfxI isAu Dry ipafru ] qf
ko pfvY moK duafru ] jpu qpu sBu iehu sbdu hY sfru ] 5] 2] 4] {pMnf 661}
Meanings of Pratma as per Prof. Sahib Singh ji:
pdarQ:
ndir—ikRpf-idRÈtI. dRvY—nrm ho jFdf hY, pMGrdf hY.
prfqmf—pr afqmf, dUijafN df afqmf, dUijafN df afpf. duibDf—myr-qyr. aMqr
kI—aMdrly dI. aMqir—aMdr hI {lÌË 'aMdr' nFv hY, 'aMqir' ikRaf ivÈyÈx hY}. 1[
It is my submission that Parmatma
prmfqmf and Pratma
prfqmf are two entirely different
words having different meanings. When one is quoting entirely different word
than the actual in one’s writing, how the view point that is being presented
subsequently on the basis of the quote, can be correct?
In the Gurbani cassette recorded by Sant Anup Singh Una Wale,
he has also pronounced this word wrongly as
prmfqmf.
I have heard other Ragi Jathas at our local Guru Ghar
pronouncing this word as prmfqmf.
Why this mistake (difference?) by our scholars?
Manjit Singh
(27/11/08)
bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ (hFg kFg)
bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ (hFg kFg)
(nfnk df DUqrU)
sR mwKx isMG puryvfl jI,
siq sRI akfl quhfzf lyK ‘nfnk
df DUqrU piVHaf bhuq psMd afieaf. mNY ijMnf kuJ vI bfxI bfry isiKaf hY quhfzI
vYb sfeIt qoN isiKaf hY. gurdvfrf sihb vI jfeIdf hY pr AuQy Auho hI bRfhmxI soc
vflIaF kQf khfxIaF suxfeIaF jFdIaF hn, jy myry vrgf iehnF kQf khfxIaF nUM rwd
krdf, qF hor qF kihMdy hI hn sB qo pihlF sfzy Grdy hI afK idMdy hn ik qUM kI
kQfvF ivwc nuks kwZky kI lYxF bYTf nI jFdF cuwp krky jy qYnUM kQf khfxIaF nhI
cMgIaf lgdIaF hn qy nF gurdvfry jfieaf kr jy gurU Gr dI inMidaf krnI hY koeI loV
nI. JUTIaF khfxIaF ijvy mhfrfjf rxjIq isMG ny ikhf sI ik “aY atk diraf ruk jf
myrI POj ny lMGxF hY” qF mhfrfjf rxjIq isMG dI ardfs suxky diraf df pfxI gozy
gozy ho igaf sI qy POj diraf ivwc dI nMG geI sI, “bolo siqnfm sRI vfihgurU”
suafl srsf ndI ivwc hV afAux krky gurU goibMd isMG jI df pRvfr ivCoVf pY igaf kI
gurU goibMd isMG jI dI ardfs pRmfqmF ny nhI suxI. ieho ijhI hI kQf cMzIgV vfly
BfeI blivMdr isMG rMgIlf jI vI krdy huMdy hn. ik iewk mfeI rfm rfm krdI ndI pfr
krdI huMdI sI. iewk kQf hor jdo pRlfd Bgq ny lohy dy grm QMm nUM jwPI pf leI sI
qy bc gey sn. pr sfzy gurU qwqI qvI qoN nhI bc sky. keI kQf vfck iksy muslmfn
nUM koilaF qy qor idMdy hn qy Ausdy pYr nhI mwcy sn ikAuik Auh swcf sI. rfm jI
dI pqnI sIqf nUM agn pRIiKaf lY ky awg ivwcoN ijAuNdI jfgdI bfhr kwZ lYNdy hn
Audo iPr bdo bdI iKafl iPr qwqI qvI vwl cilaf jFdf hY ikAuik awg qF awg hY iesny
swcf JUTf jF igwlf suwkf nhI dyKxF iesny sfV dyxF hY. imsfl vjo nvyN jMmy bwcy
nUM awg ivwc iswt dyvo Aus bwcy ny koeI pfp nhI kIqf awg AusnUM sfV dyvygI qy
AuhI awg sIqf nUM ikvy kulPI vFgUM ijAudI jFgdI hsdI KyzdI nUM agn kuMz ivwco
AusnUM by-gunFh smJ ky bfhr kwZ dyvygI? jF Kfrf smuMdr df pfxI irVk ky ivwcoN
rqn kwZxy, myrI bdlI afsm qo nfisk ho geI mY nfisk qo gurU gorK nfQ dI guPf dyKx
clf igaf ikAuik AuQo hI gudfvrI ndI surU huMdI hY qy hjUr sihb nUM krfs krdI hY.
mYN iewk mrfTy nUM nfl ilaf ikAuik mYnUM mrfTI BfsLf nhIN sI afAuNdI. pihlF mY
gurdvfrf sihb igaf ikAuik mYnUM pqf lwgf sI ik gurU nfnk dyv jI iewQy afey sn so
bfby nfnk dyv jI dI jgHf dy drÈn krky mY bhuq AucI phfVI cVky gudfvrI ndI dI
suruafq qy gurU gorK nfQ dI guPf dyKx clf igaf AuQy bhuwq AucIaF phfVIaF hn mY
suBfivk mrfTy nUM ikhf ik ieMnIa AucIaF phfVIaF ikvy bxIaF?
‘sr afpko mlUm hY ik rfvx sIqf
jI kf hrn kIaf Qf’
‘ibwlkuwl’ mY ikhf.
‘jb rfvx sIqf ko iljf rhy Qy qo
Ausky pICy jtfXU pV gXf, rfvx ky pfEu my bfrÈ kI vËf sy mwtI lwg geI jb rfvx ny
apny pYV JfVy qy Aunky pYro kI mwtI dUr dur qwk PYl geI aOr Ausky phfV bn gey’
mrfTy ny ikhf.
‘aOr jo phfV afsfm my hY vo
kysY bny’ mY puwiCaf.
‘Auskf qo pqf nhI sr Ausky bfry
my afsfm vfly jfnqy hoNgy’ Auh bws aYnF hI jfxdf sI.
ieh hI nhI qusI sfry jfxdy ho
ik afpxy gurdvfiraF ivwc jF afm lokF ivwc ieho ijhIaf kQf khFxIaF hr aYqvfr Ëor
Ëor nfl bolky hoky dyky suxFeIaF jfdIaF hn.
dsm gRMQ bfry-
ieh gRMQ sfzy Gr mOjUd sI. ‘iswK mfrg’ qy ies bfry piVaf qF mY
ieMzIaf jfky afvdy bfpU kolo puiCaf Ausny iesnUM ‘kok ÈfÈqr’ df drjf idwqf. pr
Aus vkq ieh gRMQ sfzy Gr nhI sI ikAuik myry bfpU ny pVky sMdUk qy rwK idwqf, qy
mYnUM afp dI pVHfeI qwk mqlb sI pfT vI nhIN sI krdf huMdf. mYN ieh gRMQ kI pVnf
sI iewk do vfr dyiKaf jrUr sI pr BfsLF smJ ivwc nhI sI af rhI. so ies dI by-adbI
rokx vfsqy mYN ieh gRMQ rumFly ivwc lpyt ky gurdvfrf sihb ivwc dy afieaf. pr hux
pqf lwgf ik ieh qF sfzy Drm nUM bdnfm krn vfsqy iliKaf hY. ieh sfrI jfxkfrI
mYnUM quhfzI vYWb sfeIt qoN imlI hY. iewk hor gwl sfzy hFg kFg gurdvfrf sihb
ivwc jdo smfpqI huMdI hY qF vfk ilaf jfdF hY vfk dy arQ krdy smy sfzy ‘hYWz
gRMQI sfihbfn’ dsm gRMQ df hvflf jrUr idMdy hn-ijvy “hym kuMz pRbq hY jhF” jF
“qh hm aiDk qpwisaf sfDI, mhF kfl kflkf arfDI” ieh sbd suxky myry idl qy kI
bIqdI hovygI iesdf aMdfËf qusIN jrur lgf ky ilKxF jI. smfpqI qo bfad hor kuC
hovy jF nF pr cOpeI df pfT jrUr huMdf hY. dUjI gwl ieh hY ik mYnUM ieh vI dws
dyvo ik ikhVI dsm gRMQ dI bfxI pV skdy hF ikAuik inwqnym dy gutikaF ivwc bhuq
bfxI dsm gRMQ ivwco ilKI geI hY. jF koeI lyK df nF dws dyvo mY Aus ivwc pV lvFgf
nfly hor vI gurU Bgq pV lYxgy. ikAuik sfry lyK pVky lwBx df myry kol vkq nhI.
iKmf df jfck-
bldyv isMG ‘igwl’ hFg kFg PUn
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(sMpfdk vloN:-
dsm gRMQ bfry sfry lyK qusIN ‘iswK mfrg’ dy muwK pMny qy hyTF jf ky ‘dsm gRMQ
bfry lyK’ nUM kilk kr ky pVH skdy ho. afpxI jfxkfrI leI dsm gRMQ ivcoN jo mrjLI
pVHo pr jy kr qusIN pMQk jQybMdI dy mYNbr ho kihx qoN Bfv hY ik phulDfrI ho qF
jo pMQk mrXfdf ivc hY Aus anusfr clo aqy nfl hI inqnym krdy smyN jF “qh hm aiDk
qpwisaf sfDI, mhF kfl kflkf arfDI” suxdy smyN afpxy ihrdy ivcoN iek hUk kwZo ik
hy DUiqaF dI iswK kOm jIE quhfnUM CyqIN qoN CyqIN akl df dfn iml jfvy qF ik pMQk
mrXfdf ivc soD krky sfrIaF inqnym dIaF bfxIaF gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivcoN hI drjL
kIqIaF jf skx)
(27/11/08)
gurU qyg bhfdr jI dy sLhIdI purb nfl sMbMiDq iek KLbr
aOrMgËyb
qlvfr dy Ëor nfl sfiraF nUM muslmfn bxfAuxf cfhuMdf sI pr awj sfzy ieiqhfsk
gRMQF `c imlfvt krky sfnUM ihMdU bxfiNeaf jf irhf hY: pRo: drÈn isMG
biTMzf, 26 nvMbr (pwqr pRyrk) :
iswKF dy nOvyN gurU, ÈRI gurU qyg bhfdr jI dy ÈhIdI purb dy sbMD ivwc gurduafrf
rkfb gMj nvIN idwlI dy lwKI Èfh vxjfrf hfl `c kIrqn kridaF bIqI dyr rfq pRo:
drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik aOrMgjyb cfhuMdf sI ik sfry dyÈ ivwc isrÌ muslmfn Drm hI
hovy, ies leI Auh iksy nUM lflc dy ky aqy iksy nUM qlvfr dy Ëor nfl zrf ky
muslmfn bxfAuxf cfhuMdf sI pr awj ijnHF dy hwQF ivwc rfj Bfg hY, Auh vI cfhuMdy
hn ik ihMdusqfn isrÌ ihMdUaF df hI dyÈ hY, ies leI keI vfr Auh aYlfn vI kr cuwky
hn ik ies dyÈ ivwc ijs ny rihxf hY, Aus nUM ihMdU swiBafcfr anusfr hI rihxf
pvygf. ieh sfrf pRogrfm cVHdI klf tfeIm tI[ vI[ `qy iswDf pRsfrq kIqf jf irhf
sI. ijs dOrfn pRo: drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik ijs gurU qyg bhfdr sfihb ny ienHF df Drm
bcfAux leI ÈhIdI idwqI, awj ieh Ausy gurU qyg bhfdr jI dy Drm nuUM vI isDFqk qOr
`qy Kqm krnf cfhuMdy hn, Prk isrP ieqnf hY ik ienHF vloN Drm qbdIlI leI qlvfr dI
QF iswKF dy ieiqhfsk gRMQ bdl ky ieh kMm kIqf jf irhf hY. AunHF ikhf ik awj dy
ieiqhfsk idhfVy dy sbMD `c ilKy ieiqhfs anusfr jdoN ihMdUaF dy iqlk jMJUaF nUM
Kqrf pY igaf qF AunHF afpxy Drm dI rwiKaf leI bVy hvn aqy jwg kIqy, dyvI dyviqaF
dI arfDnf kIqI, ienHF dy sB qoN vwzy Drm asQfn amrnfQ mMdr ivwc jf ky bVI arcf
pUjf kIqI pr jdoN iksy pfisAuN koeI sPlqf nf imlI qF kÈmIr dy pMizq afiKr nUM
gurU qyg bhfdr jI dy drbfr ivwc afnMdpur sfihb ivKy phuMc ky arËoeI kIqI, ijnHF
ny afpxI ÈhIdI dy ky ihMdUaF dy Drm iqlk jMJU dI rfKI kIqI. pRo: drÈn isMG ny
ikhf ik ijs bfl (gurU) goibMd rfey ny ieh sfrI vfrqf afpxI awKIN vyKI aqy suxI
hovy, ijs ny afiKr Aus gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM guirafeI bKÈI hovy, ijs ivwc drË
hY, “mhFmfeI kI pUjf krY, nr sy nfr hoie aAuqrY]”
aqy “qum khIaq hI afid BvfnI] mukq kI brIaf khf CpfnI]”
Aus gurU bfry ieh sfKI pRclq kr idwqI ik gurU sfihb jI ny ÈkqI pRfpq krn leI
“mhFkfl kflkf arfDI” aqy dyvI nUM KuÈ krn leI hvn kIqf. pRo: sfihb ny ikhf ik
ikqnI hfsohIxI gwl hY ik ijs gurU sfihb nUM ies scfeI df pqf hovy, ik ieh qF
afpxy BgqF dI rwiKaf krn ivwc vI asPl rhy hn aqy ienHF dy Bgq gurU qyg bhfdr
sfihb jI dy drbfr ivwc hfËr hoey sn, ijwQy piVaf jFdf hY, “jn nfnk srn qumfrI
hir jIAu, rfKhu lfË murfr]”kI ieh sB kuwJ smJx vfly smrwQ gurU, gurU goibMd isMG
jI skqI pRfpq krn leI dyvI dyviqaF dI arfDnf qy AunHF nUM KuÈ krn leI hvn krngy?
AunHF ikhf ik ieiqhfs ivwc aijhf rlf ies krky pfieaf igaf hY ik iswK smJx lwg
pYx ik jy sfzy gurU ny dyvI dI arfDnf kIqI hY qF sfnUM kI ieqrfj hY. pRo: drÈn
isMG ny ikhf ik hux qF ies qoN vI awgy vD ky afnMdpur sfihb nUM nYxF dyvI dy
mMdr qwk rop vya nfl joV ky pRcfr kIqf igaf hY ik jd qwk nYxf dyvI dI Xfqrf nhIN
kIqI jFdI, Aus smyN qwk afnMdpur sfihb dI Xfqrf sPl nhIN huMdI. pRo: drÈn isMG
ny ikhf ik kI aijhf kihx vfly ny kdI ieh soicaf hY ik dyvI BgqF nUM qF afpxI
rwiKaf leI gurU qyg bhfdr jI dy drbfr ivwc afAuxf ipaf pr awj gurU qyg bhfdr jI
dy iswKF dI Xfqrf AuqnI dyr aDUrI ikvyN hY, jdoN qwk Auh Aus dyvI dy drÈn nhIN
kr lYNdy? pRo: drÈn isMG ibnF iksy df nfm ilaF bVIaF zUMGIaF rmËF nfl smJf gey
ik iewk styË `qy qF pfiksqfn dy Aus muslmfn nUM snmfnq kIqf jFdf hY, ijs ny
afnMd mYirj aYkt bxfieaf hY. AunHF ikhf ik aijhy ivakqI nUM snmfnq kIqf jfxf
bxdf vI hY, ijs ny sfzI vwKrI pihcfx rwKx vfly kfnUMn nUM pfs kIqf pr dUsrI styj
`qy AunHF nUM snmfnq kIqf jf irhf hY, ijhVy iksy nf iksy qrHF sfzI vwKrI hoNd
imtfAux `qy quly hoey hn, ijhVy sfzf ieiqhfs bdl ky sfnUM ihMdU bxfAux, sfzI
vwKrI hoNd imtfAux leI ÈRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy brfbr iewk hor gRMQ sQfpq krky
sfnUM gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nfloN qoV rhy hn aqy aËfdI imlx dy 60 sfl ipwCoN vI
sfzy ivafh anMd mYirj aYkt dI QF ihMdU mYirj aYkt anusfr rijstr krvfAux leI
mËbUr kr rhy hn. pRo: drÈn isMG ny ikhf ik jd qwk asIN ienHF dovF iDrF dy Prk
aqy nIaq nUM smJx ivwc asPl rhy, AuqnI dyr iswK Drm Éqry ivwc hY.
(26/11/08)
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
iswK mfrg dy pfTk swjxoN!
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Pqih.
pfTk jI! gurbfxI ivwc afvfgAux df kI sMklp hY ies bfry vwK
vwK ivdvfnF dy kfPI ivcfr af cwky hn. afvfgAux nUM mMnx vfilaF dy vI aqy nf mMnx
vfilaF dy vI. pr ivcfr iksy nqIjy qy nhIN phuMc skI. aqy nf hI lwgdf hY ik iksy
nqIjy qy phuMcy gI. ikAuNik hux jo ho irhf hY Auh ivcfr nhIN isrP bihs ho rhI
hY. mYN smJdf hF ik hux ies ivÈy qy ivcfr rok dyxI cfhIdI hY. pfTk aqy hor lyKk,
Kfs krky jrnYl isMG jI aqy gurcrn isMG jI (ijAuxvflf) ies bfry kI socdy hn afpxy
ivcfr Byjx dI ikrpf krn jI. jy Auh vI ies gwl nfl sihmq hn qF ivcfr crcf iewQy
hI bMd kIqI jf skdI hY. pr jy Auh aYsf nhIN cfhuMdy qF mYN jrnYl isMG jI dy pwqr
df jvfb Byj idaFgf aqy gurcrn isMG jI myry pwqr df jvfb Byj dyx. DMnvfd.
jsbIr isMG (kYlgrI)
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(26/11/08)
sMqoK isMG (afstRylIaf)
gurmuK ipafry jIE
ies Xqn ivwc hF ik awgy qoN eI-myl gurmuK awKrF ivwc hI ilKI jfieaf kry.
ies vfrIN dI aMimRqsr dI Xfqrf dOrfn, ÈRomxI kmytI dy
ieMtrnYt sYNtr dy nOjvfn krmcfrIaF qoN pqf lwgf ik 'vYbaKrsilm' pMjfbI ÌONt
rfhIN ieh kfrj TIk qrHF ho skdf hY.
pihlF jykr aijhf kIqf jFx df Xqn krdf sF qF awKr iKwlr jFdy sn.
smf imÜy qF pqf dy dyxf ik kI ieh kfrj TIk hoieaf hY!
siqkfr sihq
sMqoK isMG
(sMpfdk vloN:- sMqoK isMG jI cMgf qF ieh hY ik qusIN jF qF
cfqirk PONt vrqo aqy jF iPr XUnIkoz vrqo. ikAuNik 'vYbaKrsilm' ieMtrnYWt qy bhuq
hI Gwt vrqy jFdy hn. bhuiqaF ny qF ieh afpxy kMipAUtr qy pfey vI nhIN hoxy aqy
Kud mYN vI nhIN sI pfey hoey. aqy jy kr qusIN ilKx vyly ivc aMgRyjLI dy sLbd vI
ilK idwqy qF PONt knvrt krn ivc smwisaf afvygI. AuNj BfvyN ies df kI-borz
ly-afAut ‘gurbfxI ilpI’ aqy ‘anmol ilpI’ vflf hI hY)
(26/11/08)
ilvlIn isMG
Fateh to ALL,
I am a regular reader of your site. It is very good. All articles are very
educational and informative. Especially from Veer Bhupinder Singh Ji and Giani
Gurbachan Singh Ji.
Please keep up the good work. Please continue to do this Guru Sewa for our
community. I am sure parents and kids can all learn from this site.
Thank you.
Guru Rakha.
Fateh.
Regards,
Livleen Singh
(26/11/08)
suKivMdr isMG
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qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
qrlocn isMG (iPijks)
iswK mfrg dy pfTk sjxo
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
srvIq isMG jI
qsIN myrI qulnf dXfnMd nfl kIqI
aqy afpxI igafnI idwq isMG jI nfl.
afp qy vI pRo: qrlocn isMG
mhfjn vFgUM suafmI dXf nMd dI soc BfrU hY.
asI vI
igafnI idwq isMG jI vFgM afp nUM moV-moV ky Ausy hI nukqy qy lyky afAuxf
hY. srvjIq afpxy afp nUM hmyÈF Aupr rwKxf
ieh sfrI mfns jfq (sMqF mhfqmf gurUaF nUM Cwz ky) df suBfa hY. qusIN aqy mYN vI
AusIN mfns jfq dI kTpuqlIaF hF. qusIN aj afpxI qulnf idwq isMG nfl kIqI hY kl
nUM iswK ieiqhfs dy iksy hor nfiek nfl krogy, bVI cMgI gl hY. qusIN agy vwl vwDo
mYnUM KuÈI hovygI pr afpUM agFh vwDx leI mYnUM hyTF vl qF nf suto. mYN ipCy ijhy
igafnI gurbcn isMG (QfeIlYNz vfly) jI kuwJ svfl kIqy sn (ijnHF
df AunHF ny hfly qfeIN koeI jvfb nhIN idqf)
AunHf svflF ivwc mYN vI afpxy afp nUM ivdvfn smJ bYTf sI ijs df gurpRIq isMG
smrf jI nUM bVf burf lwgf. mYN AunHF nUM spÈtIkrx vI idqf ik
ijs kol ividaf
hY Auh ividvfn hY pr ies qoN vI Auh
sMquÈt nf hoey. gurbfxI dIaF qukF ivKf ivKf AunHF mYnUM hMkfry hoey mfns df drjf
dy idqf. srvjIq isMG gurmiq kdI do rfh nhIN krdI. Aus leI rfjf qy rMk brfbr hn.
qusIN afpxI qulnf igafnI idwq isMG nfl kIqI hY. Auh vI ivdvfn sn. qF kI hux
gurpRIq isMG jI quhnUM vI hMkfiraf hoieaf mfns izklyar krngy? ieh vyKx vflI gl
hoeygI. vYsy mYnUM nhIN cMgf lgygf ik myry vIr dI Èfn dy iKlfP koeI kuwJ khy pr
myry vIr gurpRIq isMG smrf jI doglI rfh qy ikvyN qurngy ikAuNik Auh guriswK hn,
ieh socx vflI gl hY. hF vIrf qusIN ieh jo iliKaf hY
asI vI
igafnI idwq isMG jI vFgM
afp nUM moV-moV ky Ausy hI nukqy qy lyky afAuxf hY.
ieh asI vI kox kox hn? kI Auh sfry idwq isMG jI
vrgy ividvfn hn ikRpf krky spstIkrx jrUr dyxf jI.
srvjIq isMG keI vfr ivcfrF df
tkrfa ho jFdf hY. jy mYN jUnf jnmF aqy afqmf ivwc ivÈvfÈ krdf hF ies ivÈvfÈ nfl
mYN iksy nUM zrfa nhIN irhf. ijnHF df ivÈvfÈ nhIN hY ienHF sB kfsy ivwc Auh myry
ilKx nfl ivÈvfÈ nhIN krngy. gurbfxI ivwc QF QF pRmfx hn. asIN AunHF nUM ikvyN
lYNdy hF ieh sfzI soc hY. qusIN afpxI ingfh nfl qk rhy ho aOr mYN afpxI. ijs
Aumr dI dlhIË ivwc asIN KVHy hF AuQy ivcfr pwk cuky hn huxf AunHF ivwc bdlfv
afAuxf lgBg asMBv hY. ienHF ivcfrF nfl hI asIN Kqm ho jfxf hY, sfzy Kqm hox nfl
kI ieh ivcfr vI Kqm ho jfxgy? nhIN. ieh ivcfr Kqm nhIN hoxgy. nvIN dunIaf afeygI
nvyN ivcfrF nfl lYs ho ky. iPr tkrfa hoeygf qy ieh islslf ievyN hI cldf rhygf.
myry vrgy vI hoxgy ivÈvfÈ krn vfly qy quhfzy vrgy vI hoxgy nf-ivÈvfÈ krn vfly.
myry vrigaF nUM mfnisk ibmfrI dy rogF ivwc suwt idqf jfeygf jF iPr mYnUM dXfnMd
df puqly ivwc qbdIl kr idqf jfvygf qy qusIN igafnI idwq isMG jI df drjf hfsl
krogy.
qrlocn isMG
(not:- pRo:
gurbcn isMG isMG jI QfeIlYNz vfly ies smyN pRcfrk dOry qy hn. Auh ieMtrnYWt iksy
iksy idn hI vrqdy hn aqy afpxy Gr ivc hfly Auhnf ny ieMtrnYWt nhIN lvfieaf.
Auhnf kol koeI eI-myl vI nhIN hY. ies leI iksy dy svfl df jvfb dyxf Auhnf leI
kuwJ musLkl gwl hY-sMpfdk)
(24/11/08)
amnjIq isMG igwl
avqfr isMG jI (PgvfVf)
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf]
vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]
qusIN aKOqI dsm gRMQ nUM gurU
goibMd isMG jI dI ilKq mMndy ho pr jdoN koeI ies sbMDI quhfnUM koeI svfl puwCdf
hY qF qusIN koeI jvfb dyx dI QF gwl golmol hI kr jFdy ho. qusIN iliKaf hY
hF, iewk sRI dsm gRMQ sfihb hY, ijs df sbMD
rvfieqI aqy ieiqhfsk qOr pr dsm pfqÈfh jI nfl juiVaf hoieaf hY.
purfxIaF rvfieqF qy gurU
sfihbfn vyly vI bhuq clIaF afAuNdIaF sn ijnF nUM gurU sfihbfn ny
rwd kIqf qy jo qusIN
ieiqhfsk qOr
qy iliKaf hY qF Aus ieiqhfs df vI ijkr kr idMdy.
mYzIkl sfieMs pVn vfly muMzy
kuVIaF mnuwKI srIr dy aMgF dI bxqr, hox vflIaF ibmfrIaF qy AuhnF dy ielfj bfry
pVfeI krdy hn aqy aiDafpk vI ividafrQIaF nUM iehI isKfAuNdy hn aqy mnuwKqf dI
syvf krn jogf bxfAuNdy hn nf ik AuWQy aKOqI dsm gRMQ qrF rMgrlIaF mnfAux dy ZMg
qrIky dwsy jFdy hn
pRQm bfr jb Dwkf lgfXo. qb
rfnI lY Dol bjfXo. jb iqh ilMg su Bg qy kfZf. iqRXf Dol Dmwkf gfZf. dsm gRMQ
pMnf1342
inRp ko pkir Bujn ilE. gudf
Bog qf isAu bhu ikXo] dsm gRMQ pMnf 1010]
kI ies qrF mYzIkl kfljF ivwc
pVfieaf jFdf hY?
jo vI ivdvfn jF mIzIaf ies iswK
kOm leI Gfqk gRMQ bfry pRcfr kr ky iswK kOm dy gloN lfhux dI koiÈÈ kr irhf hY
Ausny afpxy koloN qy kuwJ nhIN iliKaf blik ies aKOqI gRMQ ivwc jo hY Auh hI
iliKaf jFdf hY, jy ieh pV ky Aus nUM lwjfvfn hox nUM kihMdy ho qy afp jI dy ilKy
anusfr lwjf dI duhfeI mcfAux vfÜf aÉbfrI
isMG afpxIaF DIaF BYxf ƒ qF cup cupIqy kih idMdf hovygf ik BfeI awj df aÉbfr nf
piVHAu. pr Auh Boly Bfly lokF ƒ BVHfAux qy vI Éud lwjfvfn nhIN huMdf
kI ies qrF df gRMQ gurU sfihb ilK skdy hn ijs bfry aKbfr ivwc ilK ky qy DIaF
BYxF nUM pVn qoN rokxf pYNdf hovy? ies gRMQ nUM pujfrI qbkf dsm gurU dy nF qy
gurduafiraF ivwc sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb
dy brfbr pRkfÈ kr irhf hY, lok qF isrP dsvyN gurU df nF hox kfrn hI iesnUM vI
mwQy tykI jf rhy hn hux lokF nUM dwsx leI ik ies aKOqI dsm gRMQ ivwc iliKaf kI
hY aKbfrF ivwc ies dI aKOqI bfxI df quhfzy khy anusfr jfp qF krnf hI pAU.
afp jI dy afpxy lPË
afp jI dI injI vYb `qy iewk mihË lyKk ny
mYƒ isK mfrg dy pfTkF qoN mfÌI mMgx leI ikhf hY. ieh nfdrÈfhI rvweIaf hY iksy
ivcfr ƒ dbfAux df. myrf nhIN iÉafl ik isK mfrg dy pfTkF ny ikqy srbwq Éflsf bulf
ky myry qoN mfÌI mMgfAux dy sfry aiDkfr ies iekwly isMG sfihb ƒ hI dy idqy hox.
afp dy ieh ivcfr hn
“ienHF dohF dy Krpwqr pV ky mYƒ
iewk gwl Xfd afeI hY. iewk vyr CotI Aumr ivwc mYN afpxy ipMz qoN ikqy jf irhf
sF. rsqy ivwc iewk hwzfroVI afeI, ijQy kuwqy iksy murdfr ƒ crUMZdy hoey afpo
ivwc Kohf iKcI kr rhy sn. mYN koloN lMiGaf qF do iqMn kuwqy afpxf kuq kÜys Cwzky
myry mgr pY gey, mYN Bwjky hI jfn bcfeI. Aus idn qoN mYN ieho jhIaF QfvF qoN
buhq zrdf hF.” hux qusIN
afp hI dwso kuwqy qy hwzfroVI idRÈtFq iks leI vrqy gey? awgy ieh vI qusIN afp hI
ilKdy ho afp jI ƒ
ieh vI bynqI hY ik jy afp jI ƒ vI lgdf hovy ik mYN afpxIaF ilKqF rfhIN iksy df
idl duKfAuNdf hF qF ËrUr afgfh kr dyxf. gurU ky isKF qoN mfÌI mMgx `c mYƒ koeI
guryË nhIN hY.
ikRpf krky iesy sfeIt qy dsm
gRMQ (?) bfry ieko QF iekwTy kIqy lyK pV lvo qy iPr ijs lyK qy koeI dlIl sihq
ieqrfj jqf sko qF kro nhIN aYvyN nf dsm gRMQ dy gux gfvo. hux ieh nf ilK dieE ik
qUM kOx huMnf mYnUM pVn leI kihx vflf, mYN qF isrP afp nUM bynqI kIqI hY.
vfDy Gfty leI muafP krnf jI
amnjIq isMG igwl
(24/11/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf
Dear Editor,
qmfm ivÈv igafnI
Avtar Singh Phagwara has written :
“ies ƒ slfh idAu ik pitafÜy dy ÈfhI vYd,
ÉfndfnI hkIm, Ausqfd kuÈqfmfr qoN koeI puVI CuVI lY ky dyK lvy; Èfied Ìrk pY
jfey.”
This reminded me of a true incident that was narrated to me by a friend. It
is similar to the condition of Avtar Singh Phagwara.
Once my friend visited a mental hospital for some case study.
In the evening he went on a round with the warden. The warden has a leather belt
in his hand and some pills for the patients. The warden would first hit the
patients with the leather belt and then give them the pills. After the warden
did this to 3 or 4 patients, my friend said to him that this is very unfair and
unjust of him hitting the patients without any reason. So the warden took my
friend to the next patient, He was reading a book upside down and the title of
the book was “qmfm ivÈv igafn”. The warden
gave that patient the pill without hitting him with the belt. The patient
refused to take the pill and said that he is perfectly alright. Rather the
patient started thrusting that pill down the warden’s throat. So the warden
called some attendants and they took him inside a room and gave him special
treatment which they called Chittar Parade. After some time he came out and
started behaving normal.
So the moral of this story is that the first step in solving a problem is to
admit that you have a problem.
Kanjar Kavita di charandhood
Gurpreet Singh Sumra
Brampton, Canada
(24/11/08)
srvjIq isMG
pRo: avqfr isMG jI,
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf. vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]
jy qusI sfnUM kuwqy kih ky vI
muafPI mMgx leI iqafr nhI qF vfr-vfr ieh duhfeI ikAuN pfAuNdy ho ik ieh myry leI
aÈlIl BfÈf vrqdy hn? jdo ik asI afp leI koeI vI GtIaF Èbd nhI vriqaf. jo vI
hvfly idwqy hn Auh sfry quhfzy ‘sRI dsm gRMQ sfihb jI’
ivco hI idwqy hn. jy Aus ivwc hI ajyhy Èbd ilKy hoey hn qF ies ivwc sfzf
kI doÈ? afp ny afpxy pwqr ivwc iliKaf sI, “myrI inmr isK hox krky iewk smwisaf
hY ik jy kr ÈRI dsmgRMQ sfihb gurU ikrq nf huMdI qF mYN Aus bfbq iliKaf abf qbf
brdfÈq kr lYNdf.”
avqfr isMG jI, sfzI vI ajyhI hI
mjbUrI hY. qusI afpxy Gr kI pVdy ho ies df iksy nfl vI koeI sbMD nhI hY. pr jdoN
qusIN qy quhfzy sfQI ies gMd dy tokry nUM, nhI-nhI gMd dy gwzy nUM (cRiqro
pKfXn) gurU goibMd isMG jI dy pivwqr nfm nfl joVn df koJF Xqn krdy ho Pyr sfQoN
vI brdfÈq nhIN huMdf.
afp jI dy bcn,
“kfÊËI pihlvfn AuqnI dyr qwk hI Èyr hn jd qwk
Auh afpxI Kuz `c rihMdy hn. Kuz `co bfhr afky hI bhfdrI prKI jFdI hY. mYƒ
iksy ƒ nfÜ ilafAux dI ËrUrq nhIN hY. “gurU myry sMg sdf hY nfly``. mYƒ
ienHF qoN koeI zr nhIN hY. isrÌ ienHF anoKy prcfrkF koÜoN gurU dI ibadbI krfAux
df koeI ierfdf nhIN hY myrf.”
pRo: avqfr isMG jI, afpxy ivwc
iewk gwl qf sFJI hY ik nF qF qusI gurU jI dI byadvI brdfÈ kr skdy ho aqy nFhI
asI. qusIN kihMdy ho ik byadvI asIN krdy hF aqy asIN kihMdy hF ik byadvI qusIN
krdy ho. qusIN kihMdy ho ik ieh gurU jI dI rcnf hY, asI ies nfl sihmwq nhIN. hux
PYslf ikvy hovy ik
“kfÊËI pihlvfn kOx hY qy aslI Èyr kOx?
sfzy kuwJ ÈMky hn kI qusI AunHF
nUM dUr kroN gy? jy qusIN sfzI qswlI krvf idE qF mY afp nUM XkIn idvfANudf hF ik
asI vI afp jI dI qrHF ies nUM gurU jI dI rcnf mMn lvFgy. pr jy qusIN sfzI qswlI
nf krvf sky qF Pyr quhfnUM vI ‘dsm gRMQ’ nUM rwd krnf pvygf. iewk hor bynqI
afpxI gwlbfq ivwc ies df nfm isrP qy isrP ‘dsm gRMQ’ hovygf. jy qusI ‘sRI’ aqy
‘sfihb’ ÈbdF dI vrqo krogy qF asI vI ‘aKOqI’ Èbd dI vrqo krFgy.
afp ny jUnf bfry gwl kIqI hY.
bynqI hY ik ieh ivÈF qF hux Kqm ho igaf hY. jo afp ny bOtnI aqy bfieaOlojI df
ijkr kIqf hY Aus bfry bynqI hY ik jdo afpF murKF vflf JgVf krFgy (mfsu
mfsu kir mUrKu JgVy) ieh qF Aus vyly ivcfr krFgy. hux qF dsm gRMQ df ivÈf
hY. afp qy vI pRo: qrlocn isMG mhfjn vFgUM suafmI dXf nMd
dI soc BfrU hY. asI vI igafnI idwq isMG jI vFgM afp nUM moV-moV ky Ausy hI nukqy
qy lyky afAuxf hY.
myrf pihlF ÈMkf,
dohrf
nNgr pfvtf buh bsY sfrmOr ky
dys.
jmunf ndI inkit bhY jnuk purI
ailkrs. 1[
ndI jmun ky qIr mY qIrQ mucn
kpfl.
ngr pfvtf Coir hm afey qhf
Auqfl. 2[
cOpeI
iKlq aKytk sUkr mfry. buhqy imRg
aOrY hin zfry.
puin iqh Tf kO hm mug lInO. vf
qIrQ ky drsn kInO. 3[
dohrf
qhf hmfry isKÙX sB aimq phUMcy
afie.
iqnY dYn ko cfihXY joir Blo
isrpfie. 4[
Nngr pfvty bUirXY pTey lok
bulfie.
eyk pfg pfeI nhI inhPl phucy
afie. 5[
cOpeI
molih eyk pfg nih pfeI. qb msliq
hm ijXih bnfeI.
jfih iehf mUqiq liK pfvo. qF kI
CIn pgirXf lÙXfvo. 6[
jb pXfdn aYsy suin pfXo. iqhI
Bfiq imil sBn kmfXo.
jo mnmuK qIrQ iqh afXo. pfg ibnf
kir qfih pTfXo. 7[
dohrf
rfiq bIc kir afT sY pgrI leI
Auqfir.
afin iqnY mh dIn mY Dovin deI
suDfir. 8[
cOpeI
pRfq lyq sB Doie mgfeI. sB hI
isKÙnX ko bMDvfeI.
bcI sU byic qruq qh leI. bfkI
bcI ispfihn deI. 9[
dohrf
bit kY pgrI ngr ko jfq Bey suK
pfie.
Byd mUrKn n lihXo khf gXo kir
rfie. 10[
ieiq sRI cirqR pKÙXny purK cirqRy mMqRI BUp
sMbfdy iekhqrO cirqR smfpq squ suBm suq. (dsm gRMQ -pMnf 901-902)
aKoqI dsm gRMQ ivwc drj cirqr
nM: 71 dI AupRokq kQF bfry ipafrf isMG pdm ny afpxI pusqk ‘dsm gRMQ drÈn’ (cOQI
vfr- 1998) dy pMnf 125 qy ieE iliKaf hY.
"jyhf ik asIN agy vI afÉ cuky
hF ik sfrIaF khfxIaF iqRXf cirqr nhI, keI purK cirqr vI hn ijnHF ivwc ikqy ikqy
mrdF dI cuqrfeI qy bIrqf df cirqr drsfieaf igaf hY. ies df Bfv vI ieho hY ik
ibKm hflfq ivcoN vI cyqMn ho ky inkl jfxf isafxy purÈf df kMm hY.
guru sfihb ny kuwJ afp -bIqIaf vI drj kIqIaf hn jo ik
QF QF afey hvfilaf qo spÈt ho hI jFdIaF hn. anMdpur dy keI cilqr hn, ijvyN 16,
21, 22, 23, afid. 15 nMbr kIrqpur df hY.
ijs smyN
siqgurU pfAuNty sfihb qoN vfps muVdy kpfl mocn qIrQ qy afey
qF iKafl afieaf ik afpxy iswKF nUM isropfAu vjoN
pwgF idqIaF jfx prMqU pwgF ikqoN imlIaF nhIN, kuwJ iswKf nUM pfAuNty qy bUVIey
vI Byijaf igaf pr ieqnI mlml AuQoN nf imlI aKIr PYslf kIqf ik ies pivwqr qIrQ
lfgy jo ipÈfb krdf hovy AusnUM ÌV lE qy
AusdI pwg lfh
lE,
ajyhf krn qy Aus nUM nsIhq imlygI ik Drm asQfn qy gMd iKlfrnoN pRhyj krnf cfhIdf
hY. gurU sfihb dy ispfhIaF nUM ieh hukm imlx dI dyr sI ik QoVy smyN ivwc hI
awT sO pwgF iekwTIaF kr
leIaF qy AuQy hI Duaf leIaF geIaF. ies
qrHf AunHF Aujl dsqfrF dy, afey isKF pRymIaF nUM vMzky isropfAu idqy gey. ieh
Gtnf guru sfihb ny ‘purK cirqr’ dy rUp ivwc 71 nMbr qy drj kIqI hY. " (dsm gRMQ
drÈn, pMnf 125)
ipafrf isMG pdm dI kmIngI dyKo,
Aus ny cOpeI nM: 9 dIaf pihlIaF do pMgqIaF dy arQ krky hI khfxI nUM Kqm kr idwqf
hY. ‘pRfq lyq sB Doie mgfeI. sB hI isKÙnX ko bMDvfeI’. “AuQy hI Duaf leIaF
geIaF. ies qrHf AunHF Aujl dsqfrF dy, afey isKF pRymIaF nUM vMzky isropfAu idqy
gey.” pr iesy cOpeI dIaF aglIaF do pMgqIaF nUM Cwz igaf. ‘bcI sU byic qruq qh
leI. bfkI bcI ispfihn deI. 9[’ ies pUry pRsMg ivwc ies qoN awgy hor vI iewk
dohrf hY. afE ies dy arQ vI pVH leIey jo zf jwgI ny kIqy hn.
cOpeI
pRfq lyq sB Doie mgfeI. sB hI
isKÙnX ko bMDvfeI.
bcI sU byic qruq qh leI. bfkI
bcI ispfihn deI. 9[
AunHF nUM Duaf ky svry vyly mMgvf ilaf aqy sfry
hI iswKF nUM bMnHvf idwqIaF. jo bcIaF AunHF nUM qruq vyc idwqf aqy (jo hor) bfkI
bcIaF Auh ispfhIaF nUM dy idwqiaF. 9[
dohrf
bit kY pgrI ngr ko jfq Bey suK
pfie.
Byd mUrKn n lihXo khf gXo kir
rfie. 10[
pgVIaF vyc ky suiK pUrvk Gr nUM cly gey. iksy
mUrK ny Byd n smiJaf ik rfjf kI kr ky igaf hY. 10[
zf: joD isMG, ijs ny ihMdI ivwc tIkf kIqf hY dI
Poto vI hfjr hY,
svfl:- lokF
dIaF pwgF nUM lfh ky vycx vflf kOx hY? ies pRsMg `c sfnUM kI isiKaf imldI hY?
afp dy huMgfry dI AuzIk ivc,
srvjIq isMG
(not:- ‘iswK mfrg’ dy pfTkF/lyKkF nUM
sUicq kIqf jFdf hY ik awj 23 nvMbr 2008 qoN suKdyv isMG isiKafrQI dI koeI vI
ilKq iewQy nhIN CpygI aqy nf hI Aus dy ivroD ivc koeI CpygI. ikAuNik philF CpIaF
hoeIaF ilKqF nfl Aus dy mn nUM Tys phuMcI hoeI hY ies leI Aus ny awj PUn krky
sfnUM kuwJ avYVy sLbd boly sn aqy Aus dy jvfb ivc iPr sfnUM vI bolxy pey. jy kr
Auh hor iksy sfeIt jF pypr qy kuwJ ilKdf hY qF Aus df jvfb Aus nUM AuQy hI idwqf
jfvy. awj qoN bfad Aus df ‘iswK mfrg’ nfl koeI vI sMbMD nhIN hovygf-sMpfdk)
(23/11/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf
Dear Editor,
In my last mail I had mentioned that Avtar Singh Phagwara is suffering from
Dyslexia (lack of proficiency in reading, writing and spelling). He has
confirmed that again in his most recent mail. He writes :
“ienHF ƒ ieh vI dws dyxf jI ik DMn sRI gurU
nfnk sfihb ny qF bOtnI aqy bfieaOlojI
df Byq vI Éqm kIqf hoieaf”
Botany and Zoology are subcategories of Biology. Botany deals with plant life
and Zoology deals with animal life.
I have mentioned this so that readers of Sikhmarg can also know about his “qmfm
ivÈv igafn” which he keeps on repeating that he posses in every field.
jgu kAUaf muiK cuMc igafnu] aMqir loBu JUTu
aiBmfnu] {pMnf 832}
In his most recent mail, he has also claimed that he is a sexologist
imparting sex education to people and Kanjar Kavita is a sex education manual.He
writes :
“awj kwl ivÈv ivwc kfm igafn ƒ
iewk lfËmI ivÈf bxfAux dy crcy hn. AuNJ mYzIkl sfieMs pVn vfÜy muMzy kuVIaF ieh
sfrIaF gwlF klfsF ivwc iekwTy bYT ky pVdy hn. mMny pRmMny aiDafpk aqy aiDafpkfvF
ieh ivÈy pVfAuNdy vI hn.”
“vYsy ieh ikqy vI nhIN iliKaf
hoieaf ik, ies isMG leI Gbrfht df vfieË, ienHF bfxIaF df aiDaYn DIaF BYxF dy
ivwc bYT ky hI ËrUrI krnf hY.”
So I have some questions regarding sex education from Sexologist Avtar Singh
Phagwara. I want him to answer them from Kanjar Kavita for the benefit of all
the readers of Sikhmarg:
1) Where should one read Kanjar Kavita? Where does he read Kanjar Kavita? In
Bathroom or Bedroom?
2) What are the constituents of Desi Viagra (Biraj rokan diyan Battiyan)? How
much does it cost including postage?
3) Which Powder or shaving kit should be used for removing pubic or genital
hair? How much does it cost including postage?
4) Is there any money back guarantee on the above products?
5) Should afeem (opium) and sharab (alcohol) be consumed together with Desi
Viagra or separate to enhance sexual performance?
6) Out of 84 sexual poses/Aasan which pose is the best? Which pose should be
used in morning and which at night?
7) What is “NatAasan” and What is “LalitAasan”?
“Nat Aasan kar pratham bahur
LalitAasan leyi
Bahur reet beepret kare bahu bidh sukh deyi
LalitAasan ko karat Madan ko Mad hare”(charitar251, 11)
He has also written :
“vafiKaf kridaF dsdy sn ik
bMdf ijnHF ijnHF jUnF `coN afieaf hY AunHF dy suBf dy inÈfn Aus dI mfniskqf ivwc
nfÜ cly afAuNdy hn. ijhVf bMdf nfm ismrx nfÜ afpxIaF mnogRMQIaF `qy kfbU nhIN
rwKdf Aus dy aMdroN ieh jnOr jfg pYNdy hn.”
The author of Kanjar Kavita (Tharki Ram/Rangila Shyam) used to have sex with
his mother :
“Taa ki Maat Putar ki Lakh Chhab Jaat bhayi sudh Saat Tavan sath
Ramyo Chahat Lahu sut (Dasam Granth da likhari) ke sanga Rani Byapi adhik
ananga”(Charitar 259, 9)
And sister :
“Lapat Lapat Taa so kumar(Dasam Granth da likhari) Rati mani Ruchi Maan
Bhrat bhagan ke bhed ko sakat na bhayo pehchan”(Charitar 212, 22)
I am sure You know what do we call a person
who have sex with his mother and sister in Punjabi?
So as you have said above, does the author of Kanjar Kavita has these habits
“AunHF
dy suBf dy inÈfn Aus dI mfniskqf ivwc nfÜ cly afAuNdy hn” (having
sex with mother and sister) in his previous birth also when he was doing
tapasaya on Hemkunt?
At the end I completely agree with Avtar Singh Phagwara that Kanjar Kavita
which he call Dasam Granth should not be suppressed and it should be read
widely. It should be printed and distributed. I always keep Kanjar Kavita
(Jaggi’s 5 volumes) in my car and whenever the opportunity comes I immediately
take it out and start reading it to other people. I urge other readers of
Sikhmarg to do the same.
At the end, I want to make clear that author of Kanjar Kavita, whom Avtar
Singh calls his Guru (I have no objection he is free to have any Guru) was a
Tantric, follower of Saiva cult and by profession he was a pimp(Dalal, Bhadua).
ey mn jYsf syvih qYsf hovih qyhy krm kmfie]
{pMnf 755}
hy (myry) mn! qUM ijho ijhy dI syvf-BgqI
kryNgf, Auho ijhy krm kmf ky Auho bx jfieNgf.
Kanjar Kavita di charandhood
Gurpreet Singh Sumra
Brampton, Canada
(23/11/08)
avqfr isMG (PgvfVy qoN)
mfnXvr sMpfdk isK mfrg jIE,
sfdr Ìiqh!
afpxy afp ƒ ‘kMjr kivqf dI crn DUV` ilK ky ÉuÈ hox vfÜf koeI
swjx, ividaf mfrqMz, aduwqI ivdvfn, afieAurvYd, hoimEpYQI, aOkUpYNcr, aOkUpRYÈr,
ihmnoitsm aqy ihkmq dy lfsfnI DnMqr, kImIaFgrI ‘c Ausqfd, mnorogF df afr[ aYm[
pI[ Erl tYlIzfktr hËfrF mIl dUr bYTf roË isK mfrg dy pfTkF ƒ mrIË GoÈq kr ky
goÜIaF qjvIË krn dI dIrG alfmq df iÈkfr ho igaf hY jI.
suixaF hY vlYq amrIkf knyzf ivc hr ibmfrI df ielfË hY. pr hux
lgdf hY ik keI lfielfË ibmfrIaF vI huMdIaF hn. jy ho sky qF ies ƒ slfh idAu ik
pitafÜy dy ÈfhI vYd, ÉfndfnI hkIm, Ausqfd kuÈqfmfr qoN koeI puVI CuVI lY ky dyK
lvy; Èfied Ìrk pY jfey. jdoN ies ƒ rqI Br vI Ìrk pY igaf qF iPr dyKxf jy ies df
koeI svfl bicaf Kuicaf rih igaf qF ies ƒ koeI sbUq Byjx vfry socFgy.
ieh pRfkrmI XoDf, sUrXvMsI bIr bhfdur ‘swlwlfhu alYih vswlm`
hËrq muhMmd sfihb dIaF isiKafvF aqy jIvn ‘qy gihry ikMqUM krn dI lfimsfl Ëuraq
df mfilk …lfhOlivlfkuvq! lfhOlivlfkuvq! lfhOlivlfkuvq!
suixAuN vy klmF vfiÜE, suixAuN vy ielmF vfiÜE, awj afKF vfirs
Èfh ƒ, ies cMdrI mrË df kro ielfË koeI.
nfcIË qF iehI mdd kr skdf hY - ‘‘afp n dyih curU Br pfnI iqh
inMdih ijh gMgf afnI``
afj ieqnf hI.
rwb ÉYr kry,
avqfr isMG
(22/11/08)
gurÈrn isMG ksyl
sMpfdk sR[ mwKx isMG
jI,
vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf.
vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]
afp jI nUM bynqI hY
ik ijhVy vI ÈkÈ gurU goibMd isMG jI mhfrfj dy pvwqr afcrn nUM bdnfm krn leI
aKOqI dÈm gRMQ ivwc drj “qRIXf cirqR” vrgI ilKq nUM gurU jI dI ilKq afKdy hn aqy
ies ivwc hI keI hor gurmiq ivroDI ilKqF df vI iswKF nUM ihMdU kOm ivwc imlgoBf
krn leI pRcfr krdy hn. Auhnf dIaF ilKqF nUM “iswK mfrg” `qy gurmiq ivroDI pRcfr
krn leI nf pfieaf jfvy.
hux vyKx ivwc af irhf
hY ik keI gurmiq ivroDI bVy ZIT puxy nfl ies dy Gyry-Gyry iPr rhy. so, afs krdf
hF ik qusIN iswKI pihrfvy ivwc ivcr rhy iswK ivroDIaF dI nbj nUM pCfxdy hoey
Auhnf dy aijhy BYVy mnsUby iswK mfrg sfeIt `qy kfmXfb nhIN hox dyvogy.
afp koloN ies afs dI
AumId nfl,
gurÈrn isMG ksyl
(22/11/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf
Dear Editor,
I would have not replied if self declared
Scholar Tarlochan Singh would not have mentioned me second time in his mail. But
anyways, this is my last response to his condition. I will quote from his mails
only and let readers decide if he is normal or not.
Tarlochan Singh Physics has written :
“bdlF
dI qsvIrF kdI Èyr vrgIaF idsdIaF sn qy kdI iksy bfby vrgIaF.
ÈklF idsxIaF koeI ibmfrI nhIN sI huMdI, ieh afpxI
aMdrlI Bfvnf huMdI sI ijhVI bdlF nUM iewk nvyklI Èkl dy idMdI sI. kI qusIN ies
nUM mfnisk ibmfrI khogy?”
This is a further proof that there is
something wrong with him. I have never seen any images or Babe or lions in the
sky. I don’t know about the other readers of Sikhmarg.
I have stated in my earlier mail that one of
the symptoms of TLE is that the person believes that he has some divine wisdom
and even gets visits from God.
In this mail Tarlochan Singh Physics
has claimed himself as God and he has started
thinking that people are praying to him and he is rejecting their prayers.
He writes:
“mYN quhfzIaF ardfs nUM kbUl
nhIN kIqf aqy quhfzIaF ardfsF nUM mYN quhfzy vl vfps moV irhf hF.”
Claiming oneself very important, learned,
divine and preaching to others is another type of disorder called NCD
(Narcissistic Personality Disorder) which usually accompanies TLE. Narcissist
wants to be God or wants to prove to people that he is very close to God.
I am quoting Dr. Sam Vankin from his article,
“For Love of God- Narcissists and Religion”:
“God is everything the Narcissist ever wants
to be: omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent,
admired, much discussed and awe inspiring. God is the Narcissist’s wet
dream, his ultimate grandiose fantasy.
Moreover, being a part of “bigger thing” is
very gratifying narcissistically. Being a particle of God,
being immersed in his Grandeur, experiencing
his power, and blessings first hand, communing with him- are all sources
of unending Narcissistic supply.
He forms a
personal relationship with this overwhelming and overpowering entity- in order
to overpower and overwhelm others”
All the highlighted portions above can be
found in the writings of Tarlochan Singh Physics.
At the end he has quoted Kabir Saab’s Sabad to
overpower and overwhelm me and others by threatening me with Dharamraj, with
which he claims to have personal friendship.
I don’t know about others, but let me be very
clear with him : Use this Narcissism with others and don’t try to threaten or
preach me with what will happen to me after death as a bhagat gyani. Use it with
others who are scared.
kbIr aYsI hoie prI mn ko
Bfvqu kInu] mrny qy ikaf zrpnf jb hfiQ isDAurf lIn] 71] {pMnf 1368}
Stop threatening others. Guru Arjan advises:
jAu jfnY hAu Bgqu igafnI]
afgY Tfkuir iqlu nhI mfnI] jAu jfnY mY kQnI krqf] ibafpfrI bsuDf ijAu iPrqf]
sfDsMig ijh hAumY mfrI] nfnk qf kAu imly murfrI] 24] {pMnf òõõ}
jdoN mnuwK ieh smJdf hY ik mYN
Bgq ho igaf hF, mYN igafnvfn bx igaf hF, qF agFh pRBU ny Aus dI ies hAumY df
muwl rqf BI nhIN pfxf huMdf.
jdoN mnuwK ieh smJ lYNdf hY ik
mYN cMgy Dfrimk viKafn kr lYNdf hF qF Auh iewk PyrI vfly vpfrI vFg hI DrqI Auqy
quiraf iPrdf hY, (ijvyN PyrI vflf sOdf hornF agy hI vycdf hY, iqvyN ieh BI afp
koeI afqmk lfB nhIN Kwtdf).
hy nfnk! ijs mnuwK ny sfD sMgiq ivwc jf ky afpxI
hAumY df nfs kIqf hY, Ausy ƒ prmfqmf imldf hY. òô.
Avtar Singh Phagwara in his mails has
confirmed my suspicions that he is not normal. He is also suffering from a
condition called “Dyslexia” which is defined as:
“a variable often familial learning disability
involving difficulties in acquiring and processing language that is typically
manifested by a lack of proficiency in
reading, spelling, and writing”
He writes :
“iek brYNptn invfsI isMG ny
mYNƒ iksy mfnisk ibmfrI qoN pIVq dwsidaF Ausdy ielfË leI goÜIaF vI ilK idqIaF
sn.”
I have never prescribed him any pills nor have
I ever written or taken the name of any pills. His lack of reading skills
further proves why he is not able to understand Kanjar Kavita.
I would also like to bring to the attention of
all the readers of Sikhmarg, that he has insulted Guru Nanak Saab by comparing
him with Muhammad who was nothing more then a chief of robbers not willing to
make an honest living. Insulting Guru Nanak Saab he writes:
“mYN ies pUrn ‘qMdrusq` aqy
mukMml ‘apfgl` bMdy ƒ dws idaF ik Aukq pusqk dIaF ‘durlwB` lwBqF muqfbk DMn sRI
gurU nfnk sfihb vI AuhI kuwJ hn jo ies ivwc hËrq muhMmd sfihb bfbq afiKaf igaf
hY. sRI gurU nfnk sfihb vI iehI kihMdy sn, “mrdfny rbfb vjf, bfxI afeI ey``. Auh
vI afpxy pRvcnf ƒ hËrq muhMmd sfihb dI qrF “Dur kI bfxI`` hI afKdy sn.”
He further writes :
“iek ikqfb jo mYƒ nËr peI qy
ijs df tfeItl mYƒ purkiÈÈ ligaf,
Auh ikqfb iehI sI,
ijhVI ieh brYNptn invfsI bVy ÈONk nfÜ pVHdf hY aqy ijs ivcoN ieh qmfm hvfly
idMdf hY.”
The book (Auh
ikqfb) I am going to quote from is “Holy Quran” which
will prove that Muhammad was pedophile, misogynist, murderer and intolerant
sexual butterfly.
Intolerance or killing non-muslims
Fight against such of those who have been
given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last
Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow
not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute (Jaziya/poll tax) readily,
being brought low.(Surah 9:29)
Now when ye meet in battle those who
disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye
have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or
ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah
willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that
He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of
Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain.(Surah 47:4)
Misogynist or Low status of Woman:
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath
made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their
property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in
secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion,
admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey
you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great. (Surah
4:34)
Allah chargeth you concerning (the provision
for) your children: to the male the equivalent of the portion of two females,
and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the
inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half.(Surah 4:11)
What to do with women captured in battle:
And all married women (are forbidden unto you)
save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.(Surah 4:24)
This is just a glimpse and I urge him to read
at least Quran.Can he quote the similar
teachings by Guru Nanak?
I think readers of Sikhmarg deserve an apology
from him for comparing Guru Nanak to Muhammad.
He wrote in one of his mails :
“ijvyN sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb ƒ
pVHn leI AUVf aYVf isKx dI loV hY AuvyN hI iÌlOsÌI,
lOijk, ieiqhfs,
BUgol, Kgol, nIqI afid qmfm ivÈv igafn pVHn dI sÉq ËrUrq hY.”
But this person has not even read Quran and is
talking about “qmfm ivÈv igafn”
. This person has not even read Kanjar Kavita and is telling
others to read it.
Since he is suffering from dyslexia (reading
disability), I will try to explain and hope he can get it.
The author of Dasam Granth “Tharki Ram/Rangila
Shyam” was a gigolo (londe baaz) who used to have Viagra before having sex with
his boyfriends :
“Khayi Bandhejan (Viagra) ki Nrip Bhang
chabaye afeem chadayi
Peet Sarab birajat sundar kaam ki reet so
preet machayi
Aasan aur Aalingan chumban Bhat anek liye
sukhdayi
Yo the Tor kuchan maror su bhor lage jhakjhor
bajayi” (Charitar 160,10)
Biraj rokan diyan batiyyan (Viagra) chab ke
raje ne(dasam granth da likhari) bhang chabi ate afeem chada layi. Sharab pee ke
dat gaye ate kaam di sundar reet naal prem nu pargat kita. sukhdayak aasan,
aalingan ate chumban anek tara naal keete. Uss diya chhatiyan tod mod ke sawer
tak change tara rati manayi.
After taking Viagra went to his boyfriend and
did londebaazi
“Nrip ko pakar bhujan te liyo Guda bhog (Anal
Sex with man) ta ko drid kiyo
Tod Tad Tan Rudhir chalayo Adhik Rav man Majh
Lajayo”(charitar 134,19)
Raje nu bahawan to pakad leya(dasam granth de
likhari ne) ate us naal changi tara Guda bhog kita. Tod Tad ke Raje de
sharir(Guda) ton Lahu waga dita. Raja is kar ke man wich buhat Lajjit hoya.
Note : I have nothing against Homosexuals. It
is their own choice about their sexual orientation. So I have nothing against
the author of Dasam Granth being homosexual.
It is quite
possible that the author of Dasam Granth might have died as a result of some STD
(Sexually Transmitted Disease) such as Syphilis, Gonorrhea or AIDS.
Baldev Singh Gill from Hong-kong and Sarabjeet
Singh from Surrey have asked some questions from Avtar Singh Phagwara. I want to
give them the advice of Kabir Saab about people like Avtar Singh Phagwara :
kbIr sfcf siqguru ikaf krY
jAu isKf mih cUk] aMDy eyk n lfgeI ijAu bFsu bjfeIaY PUk] 158] {pMnf 1372}
pr hy kbIr! jy iswKF ivwc
AukfeI hovy, qF siqgurU BI kuwJ sMvfr nhIN skdf (ies hIry-jnm ƒ ‘kAuzI bdlY’
jFdy ƒ bcf nhIN skdf), jo mnuwK ahMkfr ivwc aMnHf hoieaf rhy, gurU dI iswiKaf dI
koeI BI gwl Aus ƒ poh nhIN skdI. ijvyN PUk mfiraF bFs (dI bMsrI) vwjx lwg pYNdI
hY (pr PUk iewk isry qoN lµG ky dUjy isry rfh bfhr inkl jFdI hY, iqvyN ahMkfrI
dy iewk kMn qoN dUjy kMn rfhIN Auh iswiKaf asr krn qoN ibnf hI inkl jFdI hY.
cuMc-igafnI Auh BfvyN bx jfey.). ñõø.
Gurpreet Singh Sumra
Brampton,Canada
(22/11/08)
avqfr isMG (PgvfVy qoN)
ÃÄsiqgurpRsfid..
aqI siqkfr Xog BfeI sfihb s[ mwKx isMG jIE,
Ìiqh arË krdf hF!
afp jI dI injI vYb ‘qy iek mihË lyKk ny mYƒ isK mfrg dy pfTkF
qoN mfÌI mMgx leI ikhf hY. ieh nfdrÈfhI rvweIaf hY iksy ivcfr ƒ dbfAux df. myrf
nhIN iÉafl ik isK mfrg dy pfTkF ny ikqy srbwq Éflsf bulf ky myry qoN mfÌI
mMgfAux dy sfry aiDkfr ies iekwly isMG sfihb ƒ hI dy idqy hox. mYƒ ies dI ieh vI
smJ nhIN peI ik ieh BfeI sfihb myry qoN kfhdf sbUq mMgdy hn. ies dy kihx muqfbk
mYN koeI dsm gRMQ nhIN iliKaf. hF, iek sRI dsm gRMQ sfihb hY, ijs df sbMD
rvfieqI aqy ieiqhfsk qOr pr dsm pfqÈfh jI nfl juiVaf hoieaf hY. myrf ies ivc
koeI doÈ nhIN hY. myry koÜ koeI aYsf sbUq vI nhIN hY, ijs muqfbk mYN ieh kih skF
ik klm dy DnI, cojI pRIqm, dsm ipqf jI kory anpVH sn, ijnHF ƒ ilKxf pVnf nhIN sI
afAuNdf. isrÌ ies gwl ƒ, ik kuC bhuqy hI ‘swcy sucy` isKF ƒ AunHF dI bfxI psMd
nhIN hY, sMsfr df koeI vI isafxf bMdf sbUq vjoN qslIm nhIN kr skdf.
jy ies bfxI ƒ pVidaF jF aiDaYn kridaF iksy isK dIaF
kfmgRMQIaF Auqyjq ho ky Aus ƒ pRyÈfn krdIaF hn qF ies ivc bfxI df koeI doÈ nhIN
hY. awj kwl ivÈv ivc kfm igafn ƒ iek lfËmI ivÈf bxfAux dy crcy hn. AuNJ mYzIkl
sfieMs pVn vfÜy muMzy kuVIaF ieh sfrIaF gwlF klfsF ivc iekwTy bYT ky pVdy hn.
mMny pRmMny aiDafpk aqy aiDafpkfvF ieh ivÈy pVfAuNdy vI hn. pVHn jF pVfAux
vfiÜaF ƒ isK mfrg dy ies ivÈyÈ pfTk dI qrF koeI Gbrfht nhIN huMdI. vYsy ieh ikqy
vI nhIN iliKaf hoieaf ik, ies isMG leI Gbrfht df vfieË, ienHF bfxIaF df aiDaYn
DIaF BYxF dy ivc bYT ky hI ËrUrI krnf hY.
AuNJ qF ienHF df mMnxf hY ik ieh bfxIaF pVidaF ienHF ƒ lwjf
afAuNdI hY. pr ieh Éud ienHF df jfp ieqnf ku kr cuky hn, kr rhy hn aqy krvf rhy
hn, koeI ihsfb nhIN hY. aÉbfr vfÜf qF afpxI aÉbfr dI syl vDfAux leI qIjy cOQy
cux cux ky ieh bfxI Cfpdf hY. lwjf dI duhfeI mcfAux vfÜf aÉbfrI isMG afpxIaF
DIaF BYxf ƒ qF cup cupIqy kih idMdf hovygf ik BfeI awj df aÉbfr nf piVHAu. pr
Auh Boly Bfly lokF ƒ BVHfAux qy vI Éud lwjfvfn nhIN huMdf. bVI hYrfnI dI gwl hY.
ies isMG ƒ guËfirÈ kro ik jy ivdvfn bxn dI lÜk pYdf ho geI hY
qF afpxIaF KojgRMQIaF ƒ Auqyjq krky, pr afpxIaF kfmgRMQIaF ƒ rqf ku nwp ky,
aiDaYn kiraf kry. ivdvfn ƒ sB kuJ pVnf huMdf hY aqy pVHnf pYNdf hY.
mYN ieh gwl vI sfÌ kr idaF ik mYƒ isK mfrg df nfmo inÈfn vI
nhIN sI pqf. iek imÈnrI jI ny pMjfb tfeImË ivc myrf iek lyK pVH ky iliKaf sI ik
‘‘ies ny aÉbfr dy sÌy kfÜy kIqy hn``. mYƒ iksy ny dwisaf qF mYƒ pqf lwgf. mYN
ienHF ƒ afpxI BfÈf ‘qy aMkuÈ lgfAux df suJf idqf qF ieh myry ‘qy Gur Gur krky
ies qrF tut ky pY gey ijvyN mYN koeI mfs df tukVf hovF. iksy nyN tukVboc ikhf,
iksy ny mUrK, iksy ny srkfrI burkIaF qy plx vfÜf, iksy ny dsm gRMQI, iksy ny
pfgl kih ky duafeI vI qjvIË kr idqI. ieh alÌfË myry leI isDy vrqy gey. myrI ÊYrq
ny mihË AuDfrxfrQ koeI Èbd vrq ilaf qF ieh kihMdf hY ik mYN mfÌI mMgF. ieh
afpxyI kMcn vMnI kfieaF ƒ ‘‘kMjr kivqf dI crn DUV`` vfr vfr ilK rhy hn, ieh
pihlF afpxI dyh qoN hI mfÌI mMgx. ijhVy bMdy afpxf siqkfr nhIN kr skdy dUijaF
qoN kI AumId rwK skdy hn.
ies sdI dy, myry muqfbk, mhfn isK kQfvfck igafnI sMq isMG
mskIn jI iek vfrI
‘‘gAuVI
guafryrI mhlf õ .. keI jnm Bey kIt pqMgf .. keI jnm gj mIn kurMgf .. keI jnm
pMKI srp hoieE .. keI jnm hYvr ibRK joieE .. ñ.. imlu jgdIs imln kI brIaf ..
icrMkfl ieh dyh sMjrIaf ..ñ.. rhfAu .. keI jnm sYl igir kiraf .. keI jnm grB
ihir Kiraf .. keI jnm sfK kir Aupfieaf .. lK cAurfsIh join BRmfieaf``
dI ivafiKaf kridaF dsdy sn ik bMdf ijnFH
ijnHF jUnF ‘coN afieaf hY AunHF dy suBf dy inÈfn Aus dI mfniskqf ivc nfÜ cly
afAuNdy hn. ijhVf bMdf nfm ismrx nfÜ afpxIaF mnogRMQIaF ‘qy kfbU nhIN rwKdf Aus
dy aMdroN ieh jnOr jfg pYNdy hn. drasl bMdf nhIN, Aus dy aMdrly jfnvrF qoN hI
ÈrIÌ lokF ƒ BY afAuNdf hY.
Èfied ies ivdvfn sfihb ƒ mskIn jI dy ienHF arQF qoN koÌq
afAuNdI hovy. ienHF leI pRo[ sfihb isMG jI dy arQ, kOmy zMzIaF aqy bRYktF dy
smyq, pyÈy iÉdmq hn:-
"(hy BfeI!) icr ipwCoN qYƒ ieh (mnuKf) srIr imilaf hY, jgq dy
mflk pRBU ƒ (hux) iml (iehI mnuKf jnm pRBU ƒ) imlx df smf hY ]ñ] rhfAu. (hy
BfeI!)
qUM keI jnmF ivc
kIVy pqMgy bxdf irhf, keI jnmF ivc hfQI mwC ihrn bxdf irhf. keI jnmF ivc qUM
pMCI qy swp bixaf, keI jnmF ivc qUM GoVy bld bx ky joieaf igaf ]ñ] (hy BfeI!)
keI jnmF ivc qYƒ pwQr ictfnF bxfieaf igaf, keI jnmF ivc (qyrI mF df) grB hI Cxdf
irhf. keI jnmF ivc qYƒ (iksm iksm df) ruwK bxf ky pYdf kIqf igaf, qy (ies qrHF)
cOrfsI lwK jUnF ivc qYƒ Bvfieaf igaf ]ò]
(hy BfeI! hux qYƒ) mnuKf jnm imilaf hY, sfD sMgiq ivc (af), gurU dI miq lY ky
(Klkiq dI) syvf kr qy prmfqmf df Bjn kr".
ienHF nUM iek guËfirÈ kr dyxf peI aYvyN qVI ‘c nf afAux; pRo[
sfihb isMG jI dI Èfn dy iÉlfÌ afpxI jIB ƒ nhIN qF klm ƒ ËrUr lgfm pf ky rwKx.
ienHF ƒ ieh vI dws dyxf jI ik DMn sRI gurU nfnk sfihb ny qF
bOtnI aqy bfieaOlojI df Byq vI Éqm kIqf hoieaf hY- ‘‘kAuxu mfsu kAuxu sfgu
khfvY".
ikqy aYvyN BulyKy ‘c gurU sfihb ‘qy hI qyvr nf cfVH lYx.
ienHF ivdvfnf ƒ ijhVI gwl Éud smJ nhIN pYNdI Auhdy bfbq kih
idMdy hn ik ieh gwl gurU sfihb ny sfƒ smJfAux leI hI ilKI hY.
ÌrId sfihb dy ies slok ‘‘PrIdf rqI rqu n inklY jy qnu cIrY
koie .. jo qn rqy rb isAu
iqn qin rqu n hoie`` ivc, pRo[ sfihb isMG
jI muqfbk, rMck mfqr BulyKy dI guMjfieÈ sI, ijs ƒ dUr krn leI gurU sfihb vloN
nfÜ ‘‘iehu qnu sBo rqu hY rqu ibnu qMnu n hoie .. jo sh rqy afpxy
iqqu qin loBu rqu n hoie``
ilK idqf. ikMnf vI ËrUrI huMdf, gurU sfihb, sfƒ
smJfAux leI, BulyKf pfAU AuDfrxf dIaF lVIaF nhIN sn lgf skdy.
bfxI dy swc qoN mUh moV ky iksy ƒ ieQy AuQy ikqy vI ZoeI nhIN
imÜ skxI.
BfeI sfihb, ienHF ƒ afKo ik byrF df kuC nhIN ibgiVaf, hly vI
cug ky KfDy jf skdy hn.
afp jI ƒ ieh vI bynqI hY ik jy afp jI ƒ vI lgdf hovy ik mYN
afpxIaF ilKqF rfhIN iksy df idl duKfAuNdf hF qF ËrUr afgfh kr dyxf. gurU ky isKF
qoN mfÌI mMgx ‘c mYƒ koeI guryË nhIN hY.
pr ieh isMG sfihb vI afpxy mohry ÈIÈf rwK ky afpxIaF icTIaF
iek vfrI ËrUr pVHn. jy ienHF ƒ lwjf afvy qF ardfs krky gurU qoN hI mfÌI mMg lYx.
Xf rwb, ‘‘dy aOr idl Aun ko ju nf dy muJ ko ËubF aOr``
afp sB df ÉYr aMdyÈ,
avqfr isMG
{not:- ipCly hor pwqr pVHn leI aYro
(qIr) nUM kilk kro jI}
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